Why I Stopped Playing iRacing for GT7 and PSVR2 even though it's Not a "Real Sim"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Why I Stopped Playing iRacing for GT7 and PSVR2 even though it's Not a "Real Sim" - I haven't really played iRacing in months since getting GT7 and PSVR2. GT7 while not as realistic as iRacing has a fun factor that just keeps you coming back for more. It just hooked me in the first time I tried it after Sony released PSVR2. It's not that PSVR2 itself offered more then other VR headsets, it is that GT7 is just a real amazing game in VR. I will only race sims in VR so up until a few months ago, I have never tried GT7. So while PSVR2 made me try GT7, the game was good enough to keep my coming back for more. As it's been told many times over, iRacing will give you the most realistic racing experience but does that necessarily mean it will be the most fun game or the right choice for you? Let's discuss it.
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VR brought me back to GT7. Now I am driving in a Racing League in GT7 and we have permanent Damage on, so everyone drives really careful. 40 Minutes Race with mandatory tyre changes and everything. Its a much better experience than these Daily Races.
Nice! Leagues can be great.
What's the requirements to join your league, any online or discord details?
Try NTRL TH-camR .
I'd love to do some racing like this but have two impediments. I can't wrap my head around Discord - the GUI, what the feck?????? - and have weird times I can race, so commitment to a series serious issue.
@@supercededman Discord isnt that Bad, If you Figuren Out how to use it 😂
I completely agree. GT7+PSVR2=FUN! At 52yrs old I’ll never be a pro driver so I don’t need to train on a proper sim. Having fun improving lap times and racing against other humans is all I really need to be happy with the game.
This guy is a good TH-camr. No ego, down to earth, clear info. Keep it up!
Thanks. Appreciate that. 🙏
I've taken the same path my friend. iRaced for 3 years before finding the joy of GT7 and VR. The experience is so good it convinced me to upgrade to a DD wheel and move from my desk to a proper rig. I finally got lens inserts and now there just aren't enough hours in the day. I really like the GT7 sport race arrangement and how you can just keep improving your qualify times during the week and really master a track. I'll go back to iRacing when I need my oval fix. But this suits me perfectly for now.
iRacing definitely owns the space for oval racing with no serious competition out there from anyone else. I have gotten so into road though from GT7 I haven't even thought about ovals since. Will be interesting if it still can hold my interest now.
@@thecasualracinggamer I'd love to see you do some oval racing. The few times that - for instance, Daytona - I've raced ovals in GT7 I've loved it.
Totally with you on this. the feel of progression in GT7 is great and real. Shaving of tenths of a second on your lap time spending hours on a track to get a better starting position knowing you keep that for the week makes you feel the time you spent was worth it. and once in S class the community is great.
I feel the exact same way, I couldn’t really get into iRacing due to the complexity, but GT7 makes everything so easy to just get it and go
Gotta say, because of this channel I got myself a full SIM setup and love GT7 on PSVR2!
Everytime I see these post, I just want to get back into it 😂😂
Let's go!
He's got a very infectious, genuine, and fair approach. Love the enthusiasm.
I am on the same path too... Played iRacing since 2011 until 2020. The fun factor and simplicity keeps me coming back to GT7 way more than i ever imagined! Occasionally still doing ACC and RF2 with friends for my Endurance Racing fix.
I could never get into ACC because it's VR was so bad. Wish they gave the PS5 version a VR update that looked good. That would be a huge win for consoles.
Great video Cas. I never, in 30+ years of racing games, liked hotlapping. Until PSVR2. I think it's the immersion. It keeps me from getting bored.
The VR makes each car like a new experience. So trying different cars for hot lapping is amazing because your actually in the car.
Thanks! Yeah, hours can pass by and it feels like 5 minutes. 😁
@@martinsimracing1255 This!
The best way I’ve found to explain GT7 is it’s a sim that’s not afraid to just be a game . Like u said it’s not as realistic as I racing but is just realistic enough to be an absolute blast
Yup, it's definitely got the fun factor that keeps you coming back for more.
Playing Gran Turismo since part 1. The VR on GT7 is amazing to me and with the limited time i have per week to play ill continue with the daily racing and making the time trials and qualifying times every week. And those hot laps, let me tell you, ever since you started posting times its added a new level to the game and i too run more hot laps than daily races depending on the week.
I run hot laps for hours. LOL
The clue is in your name. You’re a casual racing gamer, as are 99% of people. I’m not spending a fortune on iRacing and prefer GT7 for its simplicity, especially since the driving model was updated recently and tyre wear can be managed in a race. Keep the videos coming :)
Thanks. Yeah, there is enough sim in GT7 to keep casually racers interested. You still need to learn proper breaking techniques, weight transfer, throttle control, etc.
@@thecasualracinggamer it’s super fun in the daily races, I just wish there were more different cars that were stronger at different tracks rather than it appearing to be a Toyota and Nissan sponsored game.
I’m a console gamer/a casual gamer, so I’ve never played iRacing, but I have no desire. I’ve got hundreds of cars in my GT7 garage to choose from, and I’ve got dozens of tracks and events to race, both online and offline. I can practice casually against AI while VC grinding, or white knuckle it with the rest of the crash dummies on the net. I’m late to the game so I bought it on sale and haven’t spent a penny since. I’ll spend that iRacing money on better gear!
Great video. I've been looking for those discussions and opinions on both. Happy that PSVR2 brought so many "back" or into GT7. If I had a PS5, I'd be playing it for sure.
Manufacturers cup,nation cup and world series have a qualifying time before each race! Different track for each race!since last update u can get a lot of gt credit!
I have not raced those but cool they are done like that.
Yup, love watching those races, and competing in them. Would be fantastic to see Cas do them :-)
I stayed away from GT7 bc it looked too complicated when it comes to unlocking cars and modes but I recently picked it up and I’m mad that I waited this long.
What’s up mate. Glad you’re enjoying GT7. I started about 6 months ago, and feel pretty much the same
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career mode on gt7 is a great practice tool and it unlocks a lot and gives you major credits ...
I went straight to online once I unlocked it. 😁
I brought all the Gr3, Gr4, and Gr1/VGT with the money from story mode
You mention the realism of iRacing versus GT7, I have raced with all of the PC Sims in VR and non of them have as realistic visuals that GT7 has. That along with the simplicity of getting into an online race in a matter of minutes after booting up my PS5 is awesome. Another thing I like about GT7 is that I can create a quick race against the AI at anytime or even do the arcade racing if I don't have the time to spend online. GT7 has reinvigorated my passion for sim racing. Yeah, I don't like the ghosting of the cars either, but that a minor gripe for such a great game. Keep the awesome videos coming Cas! Love your channel.
I've never had an issue with iRacing graphics even though they would be considered dated. It looks good and performans well in VR. There is also AI racing in it but I was never interested in that part.
I totally agree. GT7 VR graphic fidelity, especially the lighting, adds so much to the immersion factor. While iRacing’s visuals are a bit outdated, it does look impressive at a solid 90 or 120Hz and a high SS rate. But I prefer GT7s 60Hz reprojected image just for how much it makes me forget it’s not real.
I stopped playing iRacing because I am not a millionaire.
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When GT7 fires back up the next season’s of the manufacturer and nations cup, you gotta try that. It’s like a whole other aspect of GT7 online racing.
I enjoy doing the daily’s. But I love it when we’re in a Gran Turismo World Series season
AC with content manager>GT7>iracing
GT7 is generally more fun, iRacing is definitely more serious and the driving is cleaner. I play both in VR and they have their strengths and weaknesses.
Mic setup sugestion: You've got a popper-stopper, and that's great for getting rid of any pops from plosive consonants like P, T, D etc., but you have it touching the windscreen, which it most definitely should not be doing. You are completely negating the benefit the popper stopper provides. Any plosive effects of air from your mouth hit the popper stopper screen but are 100% transferred to the windscreen (black foam directly hugging the end of the mid) & mic. You need to put maybe at least a 1" gap between the two. Also, a windscreen is for reducing noise from wind... how much wind is there in your room? Probably zero, so you can try ditching the windscreen altogether & just keep the popper stopper (again, not letting its screen mesh touch the mic at all). You don't have a rubber band type shockmount for the mic to attach to, so any plosive energy the popper stopper picks up is still transferred through where the popper stopper attaches to your boom, but it's better than not having a popper stopper at all (as long as its screen is not touching the mic head). You can google if there is a rubber band shockmount made for your mic. If so, definitely get that. No one would probably notice or care about pops listening on their computer/laptop or some earbuds, but they will most definitely notice if they watch your videos on their entertainment system with largeer speakers or with a sub woofer. Love the content!
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Great video. Of all your comments the ones which hit home are regarding qualifying and damage.
in GT7's Manu and Nations races there is a 5-minute qualifying. I LOVE watching streams in which a good driver stuffs up his qualifying, but has to fight his way through the pack, for instance.
Re damage, yeah, the ghosting is something I wish didn't exist, but I can understand it makes the game more accessible. Most of all, like you, I wish proper and permanent damage was at least on one or two dailies, perhaps the endurance races.
I-Racing has my respect as a proper sim, but when I see some of the antics that happens in the racing - dirty driving, tactics, etc - then I'm turned off by the win-at-all costs. The fun ain't there.
Well said, bro.
I would like to see PD change up some of the rules for the Daily's from time to time or heck, add a Daily Race D and have that one with more realistic rules. No ghosting, full damage, 2 lap qualifying, etc.
Your presentation , speech clarity , video visuals are second to none my friend . Best video i seen end of 🎉🎉
Thank you. 🙏
I don’t race in daily’s but the GT7 league I race in always uses heavy damage and no ghost settings to make it as realistic as GT7 can be. Damage your car and you have to pit for repairs.
Mondays Gr3 100 mile series typically has 5 full Lobby’s with drivers ranked with our own licence system. It’s great racing against the same drivers week in week out as you build respect & familiarity with your fellow racers.
Hey . Someone with true honest words instead of some of the shit we watch with utubers whom believe their pro drivers . Fact is they never will be , nor do they get that its FUN !!!!!!!!!! NICE ONE MAN
It is what it is. Back in the day I played in a proper racing league that had all the realistic stuff: you would grind a good time during 1-2 weeks (including fine tuning car setups for qualifying and race) which would be your "inscription time", and would be used to make several pools of drivers based on that time for the actual race. Then in the race we would have a 15 minute qualifying, a short break and then a 45-60 minute race, which sometimes included a mandatory pitstop. Pitstopping was all manual, no ghosting, grid start, penalty system with a panel of race marshalls that would review every incident after the race (they were racers so couldn't do it on the fly). Also, we had teams of up to 20 people, but usually teammates were scattered through different pools, so you usually had 3-5 teammates in your same pool, all communicating through TeamSpeak during the race. It was very cool, independently of your skill level and the level of realism the sim provided. But, on the other hand, it required a lot of time, effort and involvement. I would like to experience that level of "seriousness" again, the feeling is quite different to that of racing in public races in GT7 sport mode. But, GT7 is jusy simple, you just go and race. I actually kind of like and understand why GT7 works this way in sport mode, rolling starts, temporary damage and ghosting, they are all measures that are implemented to prevent dirty drivers in public lobbies from ruining other people's races. Even the slow-down penalty system, it's kinda ok for quick public races. In the end, it's a casual game. Maybe I'll try looking for some of those "private leagues" at some point 👍🏼
I don't want to take anything away from iRacing here. It also can be quite simple to hop into a race and not require hours a week to get enjoyment out of it. The lower license races are short and last about 15 minutes. There is usually like a 5 minute qual to run 2 laps and 3 minute practice session.
@@thecasualracinggamer I'm not saying that either, I don't know iRacing, never tried it. What I'm saying is that GT7 often gets quite a lot of hate from people saying it's not realistic or it's full of dirty drivers and such, and I don't think any of that is true, or not at least to the point that it might completely break your experience driving. Also, single player mode is cool. Sometimes I just do the cafe menus or some other non competitive mission to have a more relaxed driving session, not having to worry about other people.
The best online racing game I’ve ever played was project cars two, but considering they screwed the 3rd one, gt7 with psvr2 is amazing!
Just found you....great channel, great videos, very well spoken and explained 👏 👍
Thanks a lot!
Just now being introduced to sim racing from getting gt7 with Psvr2. Always wanted to be a race car driver like you guys and this is just a dream come true. And you answered all of my questions because I want to take racing seriously. I don’t have a wheel yet but I’m taking it slow with the basics and learning the tracks. Next, Learn with the wheel Then transition to iracing for more serious races.
I am not a pro racer but I do track my car non competitively. I got into sim racing recently and got a whole fanatec setup. I use console so my options are limited. Once I got a VR2 for my PS5 it changed everything. Part of the fun is getting into the different cars that I will never own or drive. A lot of the physics and handling of the cars is pretty realistic, but I hate how the other cars are so quick to run into me. That said, I don't know why every racing game doesn't have VR support. That VR makes the car-collecting and racing so immersive I sometimes forget that I am not actually in the car.
VR Sim Racing can not be beat!
IRacing is too expensive for me. I have an account for a few years and never really enjoyed it so I decide not to continue throwing my money away. When I had it, it seemed that I always had to buy a track or the car of the day in order to race. The online racing was good and intense, but the foul language from pissed off drivers over the coms really turned me off. Never again!
Yeah, you need to definitely throw a lot of money at iRacing to get the full experience on top of subscription fee.
One thing that is really bothering me about iRacing is the pricing, why am I paying for a monthly subscription and then additionally I have to pay for the majority of the tracks and cars? Like if this is how the game is then it shouldn't have a subscription system in the first place. It drives away people who would otherwise love to play the game and even spend money on the different tracks and cars but the sub is just over the line for me especially since there are very good competitors for iRacing such as ACC for example. Its weird to say, but they would probably make more money by making the game a fixed price game... and AC 2 is coming next year so... buckle up.
Yeah, iRacing pricing is unfortunate. I wonder if they do this to keep it's users to a certain level of sim racers where someone not so serious or even kids just wouldn't pay these fees to play. So you kind of limit your users to a certain level of player. Just a guess here besides them just wanting to make as much money as they can.
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Re the qualifying, for the events e.g. Olympics then you have to do two lap qualifiers for that race only. Well that's what it appeared to be when I watched some of these types of events.
You should really try next level HF8 if not already with VR2 GT7 makes things way more immersive
I've always raced road. Mainly GT3. Watching you on Oval I thought I would give it a go. OMG I wanted to say thanks as it's the best racing experience I've ever had. I'm hooked now. Thank you brother
When road racers give oval a try they usually do have fun. It offers a very different rush as you race real fast and close throughout the whole race pretty much.
Yeah, I completely understand where you’re coming from. I haven’t played iRacing because of the cost. Most times I think it’s bad enough having to pay for PSN since most of the games I play are single player games.I wish there wasn’t ghosting on gt7, because people would learn real quick that dirty driving doesn’t work out. I’ve been playing gran turismo since its inception on ps1. Once it came out on ps2 I was able to get my first thrustmaster steering wheel, and then I was truly hooked! The online elements of people are the problem without real track enforcement. AI just can’t seem to get the penalty system right. Where as on iRacing I believe you do have track monitoring. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’m just getting to a point where it’s better to go into open lobbies on gt7 that say clean or kick.
There is no track monitoring in iRacing if you mean it as a real person watching. You can protest other drivers and iRacing does review the footage and enforces the rules and will ban and take action against any driver purposely causing havec. For just unskilled moves they will usually take action letting the person know what they should be doing. I personally have never reported anyone. I would maybe only do it if someone intentionally did something but not for driving mistakes even it might have ruined my day.
What the you mean with ghosting on GT7? 🤔
@@sonyx5332 no ghosting… like a real race. Gt7 is supposed to be a simulation. Why is that difficult to understand?
@@bsrodeo7s I really don't know what you mean by ghosting. Is it related to pausing the game while racing online where the player becomes kind of invisible and prevent from crashing with each other? I haven't tried any online mode yet and still doing the offline/story mode.
I really appreciate this video, you give a lot of great information and a very helpful comparison of the iRacing and GT7. I hope a helpful comment, not intended as a criticism, is that you could benefit from some scripting or outlining, and working on not repeating the same information. Also leave out some of the language that doesn't really add any information beyond what you've already said two or three times. Again, not criticizing, just suggesting something that might make a better video.
The damage setting of Heavy does not allow damage to be healed with time. You have to pit to fix the damage but often you only notice a small change in top speed or handling.
I wont call this a "mistake" from your review, but you said something that is not exactly correct, something that lots of people say (and think) about GT that kinda diminishes it, and prevents people from enjoying in its fullest:
When you talked about damage, you said "GT is a simcade so there is no damage and risk". That is true for Sport Mode (Dailies and GTWS), but GT does have a "permanent damage setting". I know its not as detailed as iRacing, but when its on, it can really ruin your race, as you described for iRacing. But usually PD doesnt turn this on cause its a more casual game, and not because its a simcade like you said. Same with Ghosting: you can disable it.
So when did you get to use this feature? In lobbies. And lots of people think lobbies is something not serious, so they never race there, only in sports mode. And by doing so they never get to know this side of GT, this more serious, more risky, the races with "hardcore" (yeah I know its not close to other games...) settings.
Yes, lots of lobbies are 4fun. But in lobbies you also have private leagues. Serious leagues. Race with hardcore settings. Races without almost no dirty drivers. IMO lots of people dont get to know fully what GT gives us until they experience (good) lobbies.
Good points. Yeah, lobbies can change all their settings and I have not really joined any lobby racing so this was really looking at what GT7 offers for their online multiplayer racing vs iRacings online multiplayer racing. Not sure how active most of the public lobbies are though. Anytime I have peaked they looked kind of empty. Of course if you race in private leagues that can great. As for full damage, can you go into the pits and do repairs where it would actually take a while to fix depending on how bad it is?
@thecasualracinggamer yes, damage won't repair until you pit. Different parts of the car take different times to repair, and have different effects on your car while damaged. Rear wing as example drops your top speed, and let's say, takes 2sec to repair. Wheel damage literary makes your racing wheel push to one side, takes, let's say, 3sec. So the more you damaged your car, the biggest the effect, and the longer the time to fix it. Sometimes you have a 30 laps race, and if you damage your car in lap 1, you have to pit because you lose so much time that you are obligated to pit. Sometimes you can keep racing with damage. And sometimes you fix your car partially. And there is the almighty "engine damage" that limits your speed to 60kmh, so you are almost always obligated to pit. That one is specially cool if you get it in the start of a lap in a circuit like Nordschleife. The 7 min lap time goes to 20 min, it's pretty "fun".
I lost the 3th place in a league (and lost the trophy), after 2 months, 8 races, because a guy hit me and damaged my car. I lost like 4s in that lap (cause of the incident and the slower lap until the pit), plus 8s fixing my car. It was pretty frustrating, but in the end was kind my fault for trying to overtake him in the lap 2, when we still had 7 laps remaining (race had few laps cause it was Le Mans). So you have to be really careful in those kind of races with damage on (in leagues you usually can submit penalty requests after races, so no, people don't abuse this, au contrary)
I'm just getting started in simracing and was about to drop a shit ton of money on an iRacing rig and then watched this video and decided to just try GT7 out first with a cheaper rig, and I'm glad I did. Now I don't even feel the urge to move up to iRacing, I'm having too much fun with GT7 and like you said we're not real race car drivers, so go for whats funnest to you. Appreciate the video!
Glad your enjoying it!
You know, speaking of iRacing,
iRacing and Monster Games (Monster Games were the original creators of the NASCAR Heat series, even the good old NASCAR Dirt to Daytona before iRacing bought them out) had made a game if you're a casual simcade racer called World of Outlaws: Dirt Racing.
And WoO: Dirt Racing is a really fun simcade racing game trying to compete with NASCAR Heat 5, and Gran Turismo 7 based around obviously World of Outlaws NOS Energy Drink Sprint Cars, World of Outlaws Case Construction Equipment Late Models, DIRTcar 305, and 360 Sprint Cars, DIRTcar Street Stocks, DIRTcar Pro Late Models, DIRTcar UMP Modifieds, and Super DIRTcar Big Block Modifieds.
They've also just announced an Xtreme Outlaw Midget Sprint Cars along with some new tracks most notable one on iRacing is the Chili Bowl Nationals.
Along with a 2023 DLC, and Season Pass for World of Outlaws.
Really fun dirt oval racing game, I'd suggest that if you love racing on dirt.
Since I joined NTRL LEAGUE TH-camR CHANNEL . Honestly I’m improving so much being in proper league / points lovely people . Definitely give it a go . Gt7
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Tried to join that League. I got to the point of registering a name, car livery, etc, but I got the event times mixed up (different zones), and I think the fellow running it cracked the shytes with me, won't reply to any posts I make.
Disappointing, because it looked good.
as somebody who has only 2 hrs on simracing(real nice rig in rented place) and has started with iracing i am flabbergasted with that game. the laser track scanning, at first i thought its a gimmick but man was I wrong.
at home i only have ps4 and im looking into building some rig at home.
have fun with gt7, I will probably join :D
Yeah, iRacing is scanned to every bump in the road. It's pretty impressive.
Also love the fictional tracks in GT7, nice perk over iRacing.
For me, GT7 wins it because you don’t get punished for other people’s lack of skill and there’s plenty of door to door action.
idk bruh, only GT7 and LFS have given me proper driving feeling - I miss proper 'simlike' features like rolling starts and pit, proper camera options, better endurance races, but handling wise? absolutely phenomenal. unfortunately, LFS isn't as real as new games, but it's SUCH a good feel to drive, it feel like rubber is pushing the car, iracing looks like a block hovering over the road
I love these discussion videos. Keep them coming!
Thanks!
I played acc for a while but since psvr its been nothing but gt7. Thought about getting pc so i could branch out but gt7 vr is addictive
Branching out also means more time needed to spend on other games. LOL
@@thecasualracinggamer I guess I could practice more gt7 so I can beat your times
I wanted some type of sim to improve and keep up with racing skills during the off season. All the hardware you need for iRacing was a lot more than I wanted to spend on considering I’ve ready spent a lot with my real car prepping it. PS VR and GT7 for me was the next best thing and you don’t need a ton of money to get started. Racings rigs are nice with the curved screens but I think wearing the VR headset gives a more realistic look and feel of being in the car. It’d be nice if there was a decent priced seat and haptic system to use with GT7 to make it feel even more realistic.
What wheel are you using? The Thrustmaster T-GT II has a transducer that vibrates your rig and gives feedback in it that you can feel when shifting gears and stuff. So does the Logitech DD but that wheel is much more.
I only wish that GT 7 would add more tracks. I live in Alabama and i would love to have the Barber Motorspirts Speedway. It is available in Iracing. If GT7 updated with new tracks they could really cut into Iracing market base
The two games are very different, and I don't more tracks would really bring them closer to each other.
im a mid C driver, and love this game in Vr ;-)
Great video. After listening to the whole video it really sounds like you would love forza motorsport online. I think its the best in between of i racing and gt7 lack of races. Only downside to FM would be no VR. Would love to see a video of your thoughts on the new Forza
It's so hard to play racing games on flat screens now.. If Forza offered VR support I would have had it on day 1.
Road racing is where it’s at!
Must be weird turning right 😂
Needed to buy a new wheel that turned both ways. 🤣
Would love to see an Oval track update in GT7. To include nascar cars.
I don't think we'll ever see that, but it would be pretty cool. Let's see if the new NASCAR game coming in 2025 will support PSVR2. I doubt it, but let's keep the hope.
Would you still recommend the PS VR 2 for GT7?
Yes, 100%
GT7 is great even without the Vr
Played GTSport and GT7 for years, I became one of the top usually 200ish drivers in the game. About 3 weeks ago I switched to iracing, it's a blast but MY GOD people drive wild in iracing. The amount of times I get killed in that game is absolutely insane. Accidents happen in GT7 but man, so far I find it to be far superior in terms of clean racing.
LOL. Rookie races are pretty messy. 😄
Gt7 is amazing the graphics are outstanding it runs so well play in VR2 all the time can't be beat
This happened to me christmas of 2020. My mom asked me for stocking stuffer ideas and i thought why not GT Sport (it was only like 5-10 dollars USD by then). I got addicted to it for MONTHS and it was fun being way faster than the average because of how tryhard iRacing is I have solid trail braking/throttle control.
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I love GT7 and I have a racing rig. But the top guys times makes me wonder how they manipulate the track and cheat. I think I’m a decent racer but always 4 seconds off the top 100-200 people. They have to cheat. No way possible they are pulling those times in real time
I don't think they're cheating, I just think they are that good.
I thought the same when I was 4 seconds behind. Now I'm 2 seconds behind and know that was just dumb to think. Watch streams and compare their race lap times vs yours, they are just that much better than us. But every time you improve you also learn how much you're still missing out on
Skill issue.
I personally think GT7 is more fun because the nuanced things like letting off the fuel too fast in the Porsche Cup car will make you spin out in iracing. iRacing requires a ton of time and money to get good. After running iracing and moving to gt7 you for sure feel the "arcadness" of GT7. But its fun not having to worry about spinning every corner because you downshifted while turning.
I definitely find controlling cars to be harder in iRacing than it is in GT7. Also, bad shifting in iRacing and you can blow your transmission and be done with your race.
Briefly
If you just want to have fun, without too many complications, you would consider the GT7
But if you want to have a more realistic experience and you like competitions, probably i Racing would be your choice
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Not every car ghosts on spin, ive been taken out many times by someone whos lost control.
Yeah, this is a problem and it happened to me tonight. A car spun in front of me and didn't ghost. That is a consistency problem.
@@thecasualracinggamer always act as of they haven't ghosted is the answer. If they ghost and you didn't evade enough.... Lucky you.
Do you think Wreakfest should be in VR?
I haven't played the game.
1530 great point about the ghosting issue/problem in gt7.... I agree with you that avoiding the spinning or lapped cars is important ....helps with clean/dirty driving too...!
I find on gt7 that most players don't pay attention past their hood... they don't see the guy 3 cars up slide loose speed and make everyone check up.... expecting the ghosting or just too impatient? The accordion effect catches so many out...and somehow me paying attention ahead gets me run over from behind everytime 😢
The inconsistency of the ghosting is definitely a problem. Sometimes driving straight into it will work as they ghost and other times they'll stay solid and you take the L. 🤣
you must be from mass... im from new bedford now in florida but your accent brings me home...
LOL. Actually grew up in Bklyn, NY so definitely not a Mass accent.
I do iracing in vr (valve index), would never go back to screens ... I imagine gt7 with psvr2 would be cool, but that's a big investment to play only that one title.
To be honest, PS1 Era Gran Turismo and Gran Turismo 3 were at the Simcade level like Project Gotham Racing, Driveclub, Wrcekfest (It's a shame Project Gotham Racing, Driveclub is over.), but now they are as close to a Simulator as Project Cars 1, 2. It's my opinion, but most simulation games are boring because they're similar. Driving the same car on the same track is boring. I want simcade games like Project Gotham Racing, Driveclub or arcade games like Ridge Racer, Midtown Madness. I want to enjoy the game like a game. If you want to know the problems with racing games, watch Raycevick's I Love Racing Games, They Suck! It's a great video.
Gt7 for me.
hey man ,, i only come across your channel last night and i really like your content, your channel, your persona and general attatude and honest opionion, if i met you in real life i think we would get on and be friends haha anyway i have brrn sim racing for years and im more of a drifter than racer but always played gt5/6 and pc games like assetto were my faveroite, iv had the buget sim for 5 years or a bit more, from g27 to g29 and curretly in the market for a new wheel, soooooooo i brought t300rs gt right, delievery got lost last week i was raging and furious but eventtually got a redund thankfully, i was so looking forwad to getting it, anyway i said ill go elsewhere and see fanatec have a great deal on at the moment, bit more of a budget but i was ready to buy it, however after the frustration on t300rs going missing i researched the situation with fanatec and i see they are not able to keep up with demand and no custermer service so i dont want to wait in the dark for 3 months and stress of it all, now i see your vids on the t gt ii and to be honest you have sold it to me and im buying it today online, it looks fantastic and i have ps5 gt7 but i havnt played it at all, now im lookijng forward to it, just watching more of your videos now and your channel is great concidering its very new. keep up goodm work man iv subbed to your page. you have influenced my financial mistake hahahah im spending around 3k i just upgraded my pc last week, im going to get the psvr2 and a quest 2 second hand for now it will change my perception and i cant wait bro... i curently play AC and new wrc 2023 and im looking forward to step into other sim racing games like iracing and automobalista , happy racemas
Thanks a lot for your comment! Going with the T-GT II is definitely the better choice over the T300. I'm sure your going to love it, especially for GT7 since it has the transducer that works with the game.
Thanks for the comparison and thoughts! Interesting that you don't like racing against AI, but you do like doing hot laps. I kinda think of racing against AI as doing hot laps with moving obstacles.
LOL. It's not just the hot laps itself but rather trying to beat the times of other players in the community that they lay down. So it's kind of competing against real players there too while also improving your qual time for grid when hopping into a race. Plus the bonus or really learning the track well for race time.
intriguing but have to invest $1100 + to try
Yeah, if you ain't got none of the pieces it will cost ya.
@@thecasualracinggamer No doubt.. I'm 5k deep into IRacing :)
@@dcollea 😁
I used to play iracing and a few other sims but got hooked on gt sport and now gt7. The upcoming Forza motorsport 8 might be interesting.
Any racing game not in VR now is a hard sell for me. The VR update fot GT7 is what what got me into the game. Of course the game still needs to be good after that, which luckily GT7 is but it's just hard to go back to non VR racing games once you make the switch.
You cant compare Iracing to GT7 if you never got your A licence on Iracing (road). The Iracing licence system, tyre deg and damage models is what makes it the most realistic. Gt7 looks a whole lot better though.
I never claimed that iRacing would be less realistic. Everything the game has to offer tries to deliver on realism.
So what makes iracing so realistic then? Cause i watch side by side comparisons and it looks exactly the same like the lap times are within half a second of eachother in same car
Cause the graphics are no where near on gt7 level
iRacing is an overall fully realistic sim that offers a more real racing experience . GT7 does have more arcade type things to it but still keeps some realistim to it. You can learn to drive the same car in either game but does require a different driving technique in each. Which is more realistic? No clue, I don't drive race cars, but pro drivers do use iRacing to train, so I guess that says something for realism. Does it make GT7 any less of a game or sim? Nope, race what you enjoy and if you can do both, even better! It's great to have options.
Good vid. After racing real cars for many years I'll tell ya, drivers make a lot of the same mistakes lol!!
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Which one has the best driving feel?
Thanks in advance
Driving feel is subjective, but there are pros that use iRacing to train for real races and it's supposed to offer a more realistic experience but that is not to say your can't have just as much fun with GT7 and love the driving experience.
@@thecasualracinggamer thanks a lot
You don’t need to be loyal to any racing sim. If they’re fun, drive! Nothing wrong with appreciating the experiences they bring. I play PC2 more than any other sim. As realistic as ACC? Nope. But tons more fun
Do any PC games come close to comparing to GT7 with being able to modify cars?
I'm not someone who is interested in tuning cars, so I wouldn't really be able to give you a truthful answer.
Big fan of your channel ..how is that chair ..looking at Walmart online ..is there anything you can tell me about the chair
It's okay. Don't really have anything else to compare it to.
I’ve been reaching out to many TH-camrs about GT seven and VR to ask this question. Do you know any settings that I might have wrong that would cause my VR to not work in public lobbies? I can race in VR against AI but not against humans. I just get a flat screen in my headset and I don’t just mean in the menu I mean behind the wheel with a flat screen. could that be in my settings or should I uninstall the game and reinstall?
I tested out a lobby, and it worked as it should. Once you pull out of the pits and onto the track, it puts you in VR view.
@@thecasualracinggamer are you saying that in the pits you were seeing a flat screen like I am but then once you pulled onto the track, it was corrected? I have to try that out as soon as possible. Either way you just earned yourself a subscriber, sir.
Yeah, the pits are a flat screen view. You need to drive out, and then it will change to true VR.
@@thecasualracinggamer I am so glad that I asked you the question I had already asked a half a dozen others. when I was on the phone with PlayStation support, they offered no solutions. Cannot wait to try this out and thank you thank you thank you. I am a new subscriber.
@@thecasualracinggamer it works!!!
rFactor2 my friend. Try it. iracing physics are almost as bad as gt7
Hey bro i just got the tgt-2 servo , did you update the firmware? On the thrustmaster website the only driver available is for pc ? Did you install that one ?
I was going to update it via PC but had the latest software installed when I checked it at the time. You can only update the firmware through a PC.
@thecasualracinggamer thanks bro I'll try to work how to check if it's updated, I spent 5 hours trying to workout what to do last night 🙄 pc stuff is not for me .
@@MIKEDRIFT LOL. You need to download the Thrustmaster app. It should show you the firmware version you have and just check if it's the same as the latest.
Oh there's an app ! Haha ok I'll look into that ! Thanks for the help bro 🙏
Can't even find the app on pc hahaha I give up .
Im happy that iRacing is going to be available to play on consoles in 2025. PS4 won't be able to run it though. PS5 and the upper end Xbox series consoles will be required.
Do you mean the NASCAR game?
@@thecasualracinggamer yeah that's where it starts. Hopefully it's going to be better than the World of Outlaws dirt racing game was that was developed with iRacing. I was a little disappointed in it's physics. But these newer generation consoles should be able to handle iRacing.
But at least it's a move in the right direction.
@@thecasualracinggamer I do however play GT7 regularly, and it's great. Especially with the VR2 headset. I can't play it any other way now. Although there have been 2 cars I've gotten that don't seem to work right in VR. Toyota car and an Aston Martin car. For whatever reason when in VR your view isn't in the cockpit. It's like way above the roof of the car lol. Which really sucks because you can't see a tachometer or anything to indicate when to shift.
Some cars in GT7 don't have a cockpit view at all. You would not see it on a flat screen either. Nothing to do with VR.
Once you go vr you can’t go back
Can you get GT7 on a PC?
Only available on PS5.
Assetto Corsa all the way ! especially if you like hot laps. I've been grinding some tracks with my buddies for dozens of hours, and trying to improve my time on the track. Also, mods make it look better than any current racing game..
They need to improve the VR experiance tho... the hud is still horrible and valuable informations are missing.
Agree
@@thecasualracinggamer but why do you think they aren’t give us any updates? I mean it is just a little programming - and ad some tables to an already existing system. Should no longer took more than 1 hour
@@Joe.484 Yeah, makes no sense to me. Hopefully they didn't just abandon the VR part of things. It's possible they could be working on a VR update and maybe they want to roll everything out at once instead of piece mealing the VR fixes. Let's hope that is the case.
@@thecasualracinggamer lets hope for the best. I hadn't more fun with GT 7 VR since years. Its a completely new game for me and its addicting like nothing else i played in the past years.
The hud isn’t horrible but could be better.
Tbh Rank B in gt7 has the worst lobbies
I'm not going to lie, ACC on console is really good now after the update. It may be the goat right now. I still drive GT7 more but ACC is a little better in my opinion.
I just can't play non VR racers any more.
@@thecasualracinggamer I understand that but I can't drop the money for that right now. I got a 2 month old and just before she was born I bought a PS5 and the Fanatec GT DD pro with the load cell and boost kit, lol. My wife would strangle me in my sleep!!
@@centerfieldnick2133 LOL. Totally understandable!
I agree with you 👍🏻
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Might want to change ur name.Anyone who plays iracing is not "casual"
Anyone can play iRacing.
It is a real sim for goodness sake. Need for speed isn’t a real sim
Wish GT7 would come to pc lol
How is I racing with the penalties?
Because in Gran Turismo people can run into you and you'll get a penalty.
It really turned me off in Gran Turismo sport I haven't really played competitive online since then.
It's different in iRacing. No matter who's fault when cars hit, both drivers lose points. It's a no fault system. Also, there is real damage so worse then a penalty, you see risking damage to your car that will effect you the rest of race and might cause you to need a pit stop to repair.
@@thecasualracinggamer Thank you for the information!
Had a guy I work try to get me into I racing.
It is expensive He was telling me. But very fun.
I might try it soon. I just bought Gran Turismo 7 last Friday. It really should have been Gran Turismo sport 2!
I beat the career mode by Sunday!
I do not do the career in GT7. Just the Daily's. Online racing is where it's at! iRacing is great too, yes it can get expensive but if you are looking for a true Sim it's a great choice.
@@thecasualracinggamer I don't blame you. It's horrible! Lol Just the easy way to get some cash to buy some cars. Iike the drift and drag races. On The regular online mode!
I don't play iracing either but assetto corsa competitizione. Assetto corsa and automobilista 2 are much more fun. It's like gt7 fun but actually a real sim. So even though I started with gt7 nothing can make me go back again coz of how basic and numb the feedback and physics is. It feels like a game kids would love playing thinking it's a simulator but it's not. It's just a game. Hence why more people play it
I find GT7 FFB has improved a lot since launch for my DD Pro 8Nm. It also took a bit of tweaking and trying different recommended settings but I finally settled on a configuration that feels close enough.
@pengo2727 I know I played last month too...and I used a logitech g pro dd wheel which improved the experience a lot but still not quite the levels I wanted...it's so easy to be world class in gt7 it's not even funny compared to the titles I mentioned. Most of all it's the simplicity of the physics that I couldn't get over in comparison
The problem I have with ACC is the PCVR implementation is terrible and I just can't race anymore outside of VR. So VR for me needs to be implemented and implemented good. AMS2 is a great game but lacks great online play. It's good if your looking for AI racing.
@@Greatgoku4 The GT series physics has gotten closer and closer to the more realistic sims over the years, and I feel the latest version is actually more realistic than iRacing at this point. It boggles my mind how rFactor 2 achieved the holy grail of FFB physics and every other developer just pretends it doesn't exist.
@@thecasualracinggamer I hear you. And recently I been playing ams2 alot yes there are less players but most rooms are top class drivers