VW e-UP! battery degradation after 60.000 km / 5 years
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2020
- I'm testing the battery of my e-UP! after noticing it had quite a bit of range loss during the last video. The consumption of driving at 100 km/h is also tested.
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Very nice small car (it doesn't feel small though) for city traffic and (short) stretches of highway. The only downside for me is the support of the front seats. Standard camping chairs offer more comfort than these "plates with raised edges". But it drives really good, even in eco-mode.
Driving the new citigo ev, loving it!
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It seems like nobody has read the E-Up! manual. The battery has no cooling system so fast charging is not a good option. The manual tells you not to do consecutive fast charging. This applies to any car without battery cooling. Also you shouldn't charge to 100% unless necessary and you are planning to use the car immediately after charging.
so you cant use it in summer for long trips when the holidays are? would make it pretty useless.
Nice Video, your VW E Up it's still running?
Colin Furze and Sebastian Vettel have a lovebaby driving an E-Up apparently.
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Thanks for video! :) You need upgrade to newest one if you really wanna go highway.
Definitely. I'm going to test a new one pretty soon 🙂
I’m pretty sure the wind is playing a big factor. My 2014 E-Up has done 55k miles and can still get 70-85 miles range.
Any issues with CCS?
I have tested ours after watching this video. I’m pretty sure we get all 16kWh. I don’t know if it is eating the buffer as well, but it seems to be correct.
Car is 7 years old with 70k km.
It’s always been charged to 100% daily with the included 10A charger. Doesn’t seem to have done any harm.
We’re now using a 32A charger (Up can only handle 16A) so it’s faster, but doesn’t seem to hurt.
We’ll be using the car more often and for longer travels further ahead, so I’ll probably limit charge to 80-90% so it’s averaging 70% charge.
Have you had any major problems with your car?
@@ulrichxx5 Nothing. There’s really not much to go wrong, the car is really simple. Rear brakes need to be replaced, and the front already has been. But they’re cheap and easy to replace. These are the only parts that have been replaced on the whole car.
Glad to hear that. I plan on getting one that has it’s mileage at around 80-90k km, glad to hear that i shouldn’t be that much worried about reliability.
@@ulrichxx5 Definitely. But the newer the better. I would go for at least late 2014, so you have DAB-radio, the Garmin unit etc.
Ours have just reached 75k. I suspect maybe a couple of suspension parts will need to be replaced within a couple of years, new tires and new rear brakes. Nothing out of the ordinary for an 8 year old car.
Thank you for sharing your experience and tips, i really appreciate it!
Have you contacted VW for battery warranty? 8 years / 160000km, and was the limit 70% or 80%?
I didn't even think about that. After searching a bit there seems to be no fixed limit but it is going in for service in a month and I will check then!
@@tyfonroad Hi, you may ask vw for an upgrade to new version of battery (36kw of maybe more) ... i wandering what is the price.
@@tyfonroad please post update how the testing in VW dealership went, you will have battery replaced if any issues up to 8 years
I have an appointment in the middle of October with a "battery expert" at the dealership. They will decide if I get a new one or not. Will make video about it and also another capacity video so I have info when meeting with them :)
@@tyfonroad what's new with your battery?
Never go above 80kph, drive in eco mode and you will get more useable range, EV is a way of thinking and living .
Also in city it is a useless car, charging for every 80km is realy bad. Maybe it even get worser if you turn on ac or heating in winter or driving at night.
4kwh ≈ 25%
there
so much cons wit evs.. And Eu want to replace gas/diesel cars.. sigh
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Does the eUP have a fluid cooling of battery?
No, it is air cooled only
@@tyfonroad okay, my Twingo ZE has it.
@@EugenvectorBei der kleinen Batterie?
I think that you overcame a bit. Why to drive at 100 km/h for degradation test. You build up much heat at this velocity as well as you did by DC charge the car just before driving it. Not optimal. Then you did a run to one point, you should drive halfway somewhere and back again to minimize the wind parameter.
I assume you could start with full charge by charging at home. Then you should keep running the car as low as possible. I think you miscalculated the whole thing a bit. Your degradation is not more than 15-18% according to what I see. You should do the same by driving at 70 km/h as this is a city car.
I do agree that he should have driven it down to almost 0%. But what do you mean by "DC charge the car just before driving it"? How else would he have done it?
@@karl7571 AC charge the car on the opposite
@@t35laevreviews40 well obviously, but how would that effect the degradation test do you mean? E-up 18kwh doesn't use active cooling?
Utterly useless for most people. BEV technology still lags way behind the need yet we're being legislated into using these cars ( *if we can afford them * ) whether we like it or not
As an EV owner I disagree. There are many misconceptions. It's best to talk to owners.
Merci pour cette vidéo.
En tant que propriétaire de cette voiture, un petit retour d’expérience après 2500km.
C’est une voiture merdique, 5 fois en panne !!! Les mécaniciens de VW sont complètement dépassés et désemparés devant ces véhicules électriques qui leur posent énormément de problèmes. Les responsables commerciaux et d’ateliers m’ont avoué que VW avait en projet de réparer ces futures voitures à distance depuis Wolfsburg, comme de vulgaires ordinateurs !!! Bref, les consommateurs vont bientôt être pris en otage, techniquement, mais surtout financièrement !!! J’en fais actuellement l’amère expérience et je tiens à vous conseiller vivement de fuir ces voitures pour l’instant. Je suis pourtant convaincu que c’est bien l’avenir...c’est bien pour cela que j’avais franchi le pas. Pour info : ID3, Zoé,...même bazar.
dont get disappointed by a bad experience, not all VW cars are like this, just one model year has issues with battery management module and all those cars were recalled for repair
VW guarantees battery degradation of less than 25% in 10year. You might me elegible for a free replacement.
It is 30% within 8 years here. I tried but was denied replacement by the dealer.
@@tyfonroad Hmm... well drive it a bit more and load it up to 100% and you'll get your replacement in no time 😉
How much a battery replacement cost after the car has aged 10 years?
@@pingvin300 24.000€ for a 36,2kWh battery
@@zarbonida thank you. Can you send me a website, where I can check these prices and share them with drivers of VW eUp? Does this prices include labor?
What a useless range 😂
Perfect range. We have trains and coaches. Plus everyone should use a bike for short trips for exercise.
@@sgsuper1150 we have the UP! 2.0 with bigger battery. THAT has perfected range.. and no trains or coaches where I live in rural France..
@@justinholding02 long range is no good for an air cooled battery.
@@sgsuper1150 it works perfectly fine for what we use it for. It also means less charging cycles and longer battery life
@@justinholding02 ...hy, from what year is up 2.0, how big is battery-thanks