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Nikki gave a good 'I don't think we're watching the same show' look to Steven for half of the intro and post episode. There are no cartoon villains in the Expanse, it's not a soap opera, this isn't CSI where we spend a season hunting Dexter. You'll get there Steven, and Nikki you keep giving that crazy man side eye.
The writers for this show are some of the best in the business right now. Granted, they have great source material, but they know how to deviate every now and then. The "donkey balls" scenario is nowhere to be found in Leviathan Wakes, the first Expanse book. It's entirely original, while keeping the characters and world true to their book counterparts. And Wes Chatham (Amos) is a huge fan of the books, and wanted nothing more than to play Amos, his favorite character, in the show. This role is to him what Geralt of Rivia is to Henry Cavill, and the passion he brings to the role really shines through.
I also find it interesting that this episode which is the first to seriously deviate from the books is also the first one written by Ty and Dan (the book writers)
@@odedkoren5596 I really appreciate that unlike some authors these guys aren't that fussed about making changes to the source material if those changes will improve the final product and have even said in interviews that they saw working on the show as an opportunity to refine the story. I recently read Leviathan Wakes after finishing the show and as much as I enjoyed it I felt that for me personally it was a rare case of the adaptation being better than the book.
Better than the book isn't the right word I think. Right for this medium sounds better. Christopher Lee was a massive LOTR fan and was asked what he thought about the changes made for the movie. He said it was right to do so because you tell stories differently in different mediums
If Holden didnt log the distress call in episode 1, the distress call would have still ran out there until a ship eventually responded. So i dont really blame holden for it.
No Spoilers. All of your questions about who is allied to whom will get answered. I won't say where you are right or wrong but you're asking the right questions. One if brilliant things about this show is that there are no clear villains. Everyone has arguable reasons for what they are doing. You may not agree with them but they have a logical justification.
That is where truly good TV is made... in the gray areas. There are rare characters who's motives are black or white but most people live in the gray area with intentions that are, at least to them, justifiable. The writers of this show understand that I think.
I almost told them to stop guessing and just watch, because you don't know what's what until they tell you. This show goes so many ways and escalates to so many levels.
Elias Toufexis, the actor who played Kenzo, the spy with the eye, did a cameo for another TH-cam reactor, "Funny Lil Gal," and told how he had originally auditioned for Amos. He clearly didn't get the part, but they liked him enough to create the character of Kenzo. He said that normally, he might harbor some resentment and animosity for the other actor who got the role he wanted, but as soon as he saw Wes Chatham, and how he played the role, he knew that they made the right choice. Wes *was* Amos Burton. If you guys have not read the books yet, you should at least read, or listen to, "The Churn" an Expanse novella and learn some of the dark backstory of Amos/ Timmy. Ive always thought it would have been cool and funny if this episode was titled, "Donkey Balls."
Yep. There's been times at my job that I interviewed for a job, didn't get it, and then I work later with the guy who did. I'm really conscious about not hating on the guy who got the job and being fair to him. It's business. If the guy is a total hamburger and I feel like I got screwed, my beef is with the boss(es) that hired him, not the guy who got the job.
Interesting theories. The title "Windmills" is another reference to Don Quixote, 'Tilting at windmills' - taking on challenges bigger then himself. We see that Elise literally has the book and it was Holden's favorite. He thought of himself as a knight and Elise hated to tell him it was a tragedy. We also see a lot of wind turbines around the Holden property which are the present-day windmills. Part of Holden's problem is he's naive, too honest, and sees everything in black and white. He's willing to announce to the solar system what he thinks is the truth without having all the facts, thereby starting a riot, maybe a war, and other crazy shit.
Both Holden and Miller are parallels to Don Quixote. Miller is the extremely thin and tall guy who is the laughingstock of the town, but he believes he is doing the right thing and leaves everything behind to save his 'Dulcinea'.
Ah yes, the episode in which we got to know what Amos is all about. He's just that guy! Holden may be the captain. Alex may be the pilot. Naomi may be the engineer. But Amos is the one you want watching your back.
Fun fact: The actor playing the spy is Elias Toufexis. He's best known for being the voice actor of the protagonist in the video game Deus Ex: Human Revolution, a game that deals heavily with cybernetic augmentation. So his cybernetic eye in this was a bit of an homage on the part of the producers.
The bird outside Julie's apartment is real. It looks weird because the gravity on Ceres is low so it doesn't have to flap it's wings so often. It also shows how much attention to detail on physics they do on The Expanse
i started watching this around the same time as you. I actually worked on the show a few times but never got around to watching it till now. I just finished the 1st season. Really great show.. Also big fans of your channel. I watch all your walking dead vids, and now these..
The Expanse, IMHO, is about Shades of Gray. Every "Good Guy" or "Bad Guy" gets their chance to both take risks and justify their actions. In the scope of Earth, Mars the Belt and everything else I don't feel any characters ever come across as truly Evil or Bad or Righteous. They're all just people with allegiances that change as their view points change. FWIW.
While I dig your take, I have a minor disagreement. IMO, Jule-Pierre is truly evil. He was moved very little at the loss of his own daughter. He gave the order to sacrifice a hundred thousand human beings for the sake of, basically, his personal wealth. He was ready to personally sacrifice a child. For that matter, Dr. Strickland... nuff said. Dresden and his crew. Not the scientists who were transcranial magnetically lobotomised, but the thugs who handled those scientists, carried his equipment, etc. Nguyen. Murty, Morty, Marty, Murtry. I would also throw in Marco. Just my opinion.
As for "righteous," I'm not really sure how you define that, but Prax was a hella good dude. And so was Alex. 🤷♂️ And while perhaps not "righteous" Holden's intentions were always admirable, even though he adopted questionable tactics.
one thing I like about this show is there is no snidely whiplash over the top evil bad guy, everyone thinks they are righteous with righteous motivation.
The spy had rigged the airlock panel to electrocute Amos when he came back to execute him, then when Amos said they needed his help he had to scramble fast to disable the killswitch.
Steven: "I love that this show is absolutely making my brain just go twisted with these theories"... Probably not as much as us LOL....Love your channel and reactions. Stay safe and keep up the good work.
The beauty of this show is the density of the information and foreshadowing going on. Every visual has information. Screens in the backgrounds voices n the intercom or announcements going on in a station behind the main dialogue. Some of it will not make sense unti Season 3. But all of it is realistic no cartoon characters, people’s motivations are real and they change. Watch Holden change from the guy who wanted to stop Amos as time goes by.. and remember time is passing space is a big place.
Holding my breath till the next episode! And every episode after that :) Also, I would love to see your guys' reaction to Orphan Black! It's not just one of my favorite shows, but it's one of my favorite shows to watch reactions of, and it's got a superhuman performance by Tatiana Maslany.
Two episodes a week!! Oh yeah. The cliffhangers get harder and harder to stop. Wife and I binged season 4 in two days. Truly some of the best Sci-Fi show today. Cheers.
"Corrupt" really isn't the right term. He's not taking bribes, he's not dealing drugs, he's not stealing from people (until he raided Julie Mao's room, but she was dead and her dad is a tycoon). He strikes me as more of a long-time cop who operates by the street-rules, not so much the codified policies and regs of the job. Like the time somebody threw a bottle that sprayed broken glass on them. The female cop was all, "You just gonna let that go?!" Miller said, "Uh, he went that way." He knew running after the guy was running the fool's errand. 99% he's gonna get away and if caught, the penalty is so light that it's not worth the time and effort. Rookie cop is the type that hands out a ticket for every little thing. Veteran cop is like, "Screw that. Go after what's important. Jaywalking isn't it."
Holden and Co aren't going to Eros, that's just the cover story to get them close to that asteroid Fred Johnson sent them to in order to pick up "Lionel Polanski."
Lol, can't wait for you guys to get to know the Roci crew better and then remember your earlier assessments of them. It's going to be so funny🤭 I'll say this as well, I love all of the Roci crew and Amos, is one of my top 2 favorites on the show. I have a feeling you guys are going understand him more soon😉 Great reaction guys👍🏽
Oh, Steven. My dude. So awesome that you bravely put your theories out knowing how much the show holds its cards close to the chest. All, er, more, um, some ... some things will be revealed eventually. LOL!
This episode does a good job of showing how Holden is good but naïve. When Amos goes down to the entry door to get ready to take out the Martians if they board, he accuses Amos of babbling and acts like he's a psychotic fool. No, Amos was the only one seeing the situation clearly and knowing what had to be done. It was probably going to be a choice of fighting it out or doing life in prison. It was a clear case of "them or us". Holden, due to his inexperience with these things, still thinks that he can talk his way out of anything if he's reasonable. Amos knows that if you try that, they'll just run straight over you. The Martians will want to hold somebody responsible for the loss of the Donnager. Guilty or not, the Rocinante crew will be held up as an example of what happens to terrorists that f**k with Mars. Amos is right, the last two ships that they were on both exploded under mysterious circumstances, how the hell are they NOT going to be labeled terrorists? Amos is also right that Holden is all good with being the guy out front as long as he's personally benefitting and life is good. The real measure of a man is how you react when all your available choices are bad and you somehow have to pick one. He wants to be Ghandi and not spill the "innocent blood" of guys that would take him out in a New York second and not lose a second of sleep over it.
Alex is from Mars. Chrisjen is from earth. Dawes is the head of the OPA on Ceres. Maybe you're right, but that is quite a stretch to put those in the same camp.
Great time to step up to 2 a week, loving the reactions. I love the dynamics between the crew members and how trust and aligences change between them as they go through things😁
There are protagonists and antagonists in this show but few real "bad guys". Everyone is motivated by different values (ends vs means / principles vs survival).
Just finished this episode and its cool 😎 seeing that you guys are as clueless as i am , reading the comments are very helpful without spoiling anything .
Remember Christjen talking to that guy about his spy at the Zoo and him saying something roughly like, "I did my job, I screwed over Fred Johnson." Meaning back from the Anderson Station incident...
After you've finished s2 of this show I want you to go back and watch this reaction!!!!!! It's fun watching with you guys. Just don't assume yourself into a box!
Naomi and Alex were conniving to maintain control of the Rocinante. And you can now link the first episode title, the name of the ship, and this episode's title together and figure out just who is Don Quixote.
Amos is good but utterly remorseless, if that's possible. It is clear even at this point that he could kill almost anyone and not feel a thing. He is a fantastic character though.
The show doesn't really explain what the spy was doing in the airlock, but I suspect that he booby-trapped the lock to electrocute Amos if he came to kill him, which is why he broke it after Amos came to let him out to help.
I'm pretty sure he was reversing the door controls, so when Amos spaced him, it would instead let him back into the ship. There's no way the Martians would wire their ship poorly enough that he could rig something to electrocute Amos.
Love watching your reactions to The Expanse, been a fan of your channel since Stranger Things days. Really looking forward to seeing your reactions when this show begins to really unfold. Can't wait. You'll definitely be on the edge of your seat.
You are right to analyse everything said and done, as I watch you guys watching this, there are things I missed that only paid of seasons later. The story/world/solar system building is all linked and things pay off eventually. Nothing is "filler" here.
I gotta admit. I usually spend half of my time making theories about this show's mysteries, and the other half being obsessed over Chrisjen's outfits. This winter dress is my favorite this season. Guys, BCS is wrapping up in a week. Is there any chance you react to Westworld season 3. It's getting sooooo great! Please take a look.
The Council of Nine They announced before Westworld season 3 started that they were just going to watch it on their own and not react because of all the trouble they had with copyright on the previous seasons. The most we might hope for might be a couple of reviews, or even just one at the end.
See it gets better and better 👍 It's really cool watching you guys diving deep into it , I'd suggest if you can read the Churn which is Amos'es back story and the other novellas which expand on the Expanse universe without putting in Spoilers to the main story.
You need to identify the different factions first, then place each character into each faction as an origin .. then determine if they've had a change of heart that would cause them to change up factions. The very first episode we learned that Christian despises the OPA enough to torture a captive belter she thought might be OPA... what we learned about her in this episode is the reason she hates the OPA..they killed her son. Think of the OPA as belter extremists.
I have little time for tv cuz I work so hard but i do want to say I did watch your videos on GOT and Chernobyl. I just want to say you guys are so cool 😎! Keep up the good work!
Steve, you've got lots of theories. Some right, some wrong. I won't say which is which, just that I look forward to seeing more from you guys. I love this show, so much.
Steven got some wild theories, man 😁 Some completely wrong mixed in with some completely right 😉 Nikki got a finely-tuned gut feeling about most characters, both main and minor ones👌
I mostly have to laugh so damn hard at your speculations. You get a few things right here and there, but so many are just not even close. Another problem you have is you keep thinking this is like so many other shows, and everything is "Black & White" aka "Good or Bad" this show is so many onion layers of grey. There are some really REALLY dark folks in the show for sure, some irredeemable evil folks, but even those, are not simplistic doing evil for evil sakes. I don't remember where the quote came from, but this show really makes the quote "Everyone is the hero of their own story" so true. Even those doing the most evil of all, in the end, think they are justified to do what they are doing for the "benefit" of their own people, whether that's their faction or all humanity as they see it.
I agree with your take that Fred Johnson might not be such a bad guy, but I disagree on the why. "I vas just folloving ordas" should not be considered an excuse.
This is a show where it's important to take note of the facts, but not fall into the trap of interpreting the facts. For example, we KNOW Miller got fired. The why is implied but wasn't explained in the last episode. It's very easy to make an ironclad theory based on supposition and still be completely wrong. Operation Tailwind is a good real world example.
And if they're wrong with their theories, what happens? Nothing. It's fun, it lets them go over plot points together, and it allows us see where their head is at with what's happening, win-win.
@@afontana89 Having seen a lot of fandom for a lot of shows over the years go nuts picking apart every detail, you can definitely reach a point where your own ideas and speculation start to take over your viewing experience, and I think it can be detrimental - when the viewer gets mad that the plot isn't nearly as convoluted as what they came up with in their head. And honestly, this just isn't the show for that kind of viewing - this isn't a mystery show like Lost or Westworld, it's actually pretty straightforward in being about decisions people make in the moment rather than twists being revealed.
Spot on Steven, about Fred. You’ll learn a little more about the. It use thing later. And it’s actually a bit worse than you think. But not in a way that makes Fred “bad”.
I understand why everyone views Anderson Dawes as a villain, because both the books and show portray him like that, only because the books are POV, and the show has to adapt it some way. But he really isn't a villain, he's just an antagonist to our protagonist, but to the most disadvantaged people, he is a literal messiah, because he is genuinely doing things for the people most abused by the elitist Earthers and Martians. He's not even like Thanos, where some people think he was doing the right thing the wrong way. Dawes is doing the right thing the ONLY way he can, otherwise the overwhelming and untouchable advantages Earth and Mars have over the Belters will leave them to stay oppressed with no hope of equality, or even just a small cut of what they truly deserve for the work they do.
The bird outside Julie's apartment is real. It looks weird because the gravity on Ceres is low so it doesn't have to flap it's wings so often. It also shows how much attention to detail on physics they do on The Expanse
@M 40 easy, look for the jumps the astronauts made in their super heavy suits, and the moon has much more gravity than Ceres. You could probably jump right to the ceiling of the larger open areas.
@@ProvidenceNL Ceres Station doesn't have the natural gravity of Ceres. It is supplemented by spin gravity to the standard Martian 1/3G, like most stations and ships in this universe. They demonstrate this in one of the early episodes by showing the Coriolis Effect when Miller poured a drink.
@@ShaunRF I know? I'm talking about the spin gravity. Not sure what you think I was talking about. Edit: ah I see I mixed up the numbers, welp that's a bit embarrassing.
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Steven's predictions are giving a man times full of laughter xD ... _"oh my sweet solar child..."_
Keller Smith true, the Boys was a good one. I can’t wait for season 2
Nikki gave a good 'I don't think we're watching the same show' look to Steven for half of the intro and post episode. There are no cartoon villains in the Expanse, it's not a soap opera, this isn't CSI where we spend a season hunting Dexter. You'll get there Steven, and Nikki you keep giving that crazy man side eye.
lol that is exactly the sense I get of Nikki's thoughts at those times too.
Yeah, this seems to be the moment where his bananas theories are starting to careen out of control and jump the tracks. Banana train!
Steven: 'I even wrote my own notes.'
Nikki: smiles kindly at him while holding on to her extensive notes. 'Hold my beer sweetie.'
Anderson Dawes had some of the best lines and the best scenes when he was talking to Miller
The writers for this show are some of the best in the business right now. Granted, they have great source material, but they know how to deviate every now and then.
The "donkey balls" scenario is nowhere to be found in Leviathan Wakes, the first Expanse book. It's entirely original, while keeping the characters and world true to their book counterparts.
And Wes Chatham (Amos) is a huge fan of the books, and wanted nothing more than to play Amos, his favorite character, in the show. This role is to him what Geralt of Rivia is to Henry Cavill, and the passion he brings to the role really shines through.
I also find it interesting that this episode which is the first to seriously deviate from the books is also the first one written by Ty and Dan (the book writers)
@@odedkoren5596 I really appreciate that unlike some authors these guys aren't that fussed about making changes to the source material if those changes will improve the final product and have even said in interviews that they saw working on the show as an opportunity to refine the story. I recently read Leviathan Wakes after finishing the show and as much as I enjoyed it I felt that for me personally it was a rare case of the adaptation being better than the book.
Better than the book isn't the right word I think. Right for this medium sounds better. Christopher Lee was a massive LOTR fan and was asked what he thought about the changes made for the movie. He said it was right to do so because you tell stories differently in different mediums
If Holden didnt log the distress call in episode 1, the distress call would have still ran out there until a ship eventually responded. So i dont really blame holden for it.
I love the dialogue between Dawes and Miller in this episode during that bar scene. A threat and an olive branch all in one conversation.
No Spoilers. All of your questions about who is allied to whom will get answered. I won't say where you are right or wrong but you're asking the right questions.
One if brilliant things about this show is that there are no clear villains. Everyone has arguable reasons for what they are doing. You may not agree with them but they have a logical justification.
That is where truly good TV is made... in the gray areas. There are rare characters who's motives are black or white but most people live in the gray area with intentions that are, at least to them, justifiable. The writers of this show understand that I think.
@@SnaFubar_24 it's an old saying. A villain is the hero in his own story.
I love how you guys have no clue where this amazing show is going yet. Makes me feel like I'm watching them for the first (or 2nd or 3rd) time again.
Yeah, it's kinda funny knowing what I know 😂
I almost told them to stop guessing and just watch, because you don't know what's what until they tell you. This show goes so many ways and escalates to so many levels.
I know right? You spend the episodes pondering what is what, and soooo much about to come up that you'll forget everything lol.
Elias Toufexis, the actor who played Kenzo, the spy with the eye, did a cameo for another TH-cam reactor, "Funny Lil Gal," and told how he had originally auditioned for Amos. He clearly didn't get the part, but they liked him enough to create the character of Kenzo. He said that normally, he might harbor some resentment and animosity for the other actor who got the role he wanted, but as soon as he saw Wes Chatham, and how he played the role, he knew that they made the right choice. Wes *was* Amos Burton.
If you guys have not read the books yet, you should at least read, or listen to, "The Churn" an Expanse novella and learn some of the dark backstory of Amos/ Timmy.
Ive always thought it would have been cool and funny if this episode was titled, "Donkey Balls."
Yep. There's been times at my job that I interviewed for a job, didn't get it, and then I work later with the guy who did. I'm really conscious about not hating on the guy who got the job and being fair to him. It's business. If the guy is a total hamburger and I feel like I got screwed, my beef is with the boss(es) that hired him, not the guy who got the job.
Interesting theories. The title "Windmills" is another reference to Don Quixote, 'Tilting at windmills' - taking on challenges bigger then himself. We see that Elise literally has the book and it was Holden's favorite. He thought of himself as a knight and Elise hated to tell him it was a tragedy. We also see a lot of wind turbines around the Holden property which are the present-day windmills.
Part of Holden's problem is he's naive, too honest, and sees everything in black and white. He's willing to announce to the solar system what he thinks is the truth without having all the facts, thereby starting a riot, maybe a war, and other crazy shit.
Both Holden and Miller are parallels to Don Quixote. Miller is the extremely thin and tall guy who is the laughingstock of the town, but he believes he is doing the right thing and leaves everything behind to save his 'Dulcinea'.
Ah yes, the episode in which we got to know what Amos is all about. He's just that guy!
Holden may be the captain. Alex may be the pilot. Naomi may be the engineer.
But Amos is the one you want watching your back.
Fun fact: The actor playing the spy is Elias Toufexis. He's best known for being the voice actor of the protagonist in the video game Deus Ex: Human Revolution, a game that deals heavily with cybernetic augmentation. So his cybernetic eye in this was a bit of an homage on the part of the producers.
The bird outside Julie's apartment is real. It looks weird because the gravity on Ceres is low so it doesn't have to flap it's wings so often. It also shows how much attention to detail on physics they do on The Expanse
I started watching the show at the same time as you guys. Ive just finished season 3 and without spoiling anything you wont regret picking this show.
Its good huh!?
Thanks to them That's why I started. same here with you I just started 4th season Loving it
The thing that makes the writing so good in this show is the fact the books actual authors both work on this show as writers and consultants.
Even though i've seen this show more times than i can count. I'm so excited for this ride with Nikki and Steven
Thank you for cranking these out!
i started watching this around the same time as you. I actually worked on the show a few times but never got around to watching it till now. I just finished the 1st season. Really great show.. Also big fans of your channel. I watch all your walking dead vids, and now these..
@watashi lol its not even on my resume. I work on tons of shows,. just my department is on their haha
There are a LOT of complex motivations behind many of the characters. I love that the story keeps everyone guessing.
The Expanse, IMHO, is about Shades of Gray. Every "Good Guy" or "Bad Guy" gets their chance to both take risks and justify their actions. In the scope of Earth, Mars the Belt and everything else I don't feel any characters ever come across as truly Evil or Bad or Righteous. They're all just people with allegiances that change as their view points change. FWIW.
While I dig your take, I have a minor disagreement. IMO, Jule-Pierre is truly evil. He was moved very little at the loss of his own daughter. He gave the order to sacrifice a hundred thousand human beings for the sake of, basically, his personal wealth. He was ready to personally sacrifice a child.
For that matter, Dr. Strickland... nuff said.
Dresden and his crew. Not the scientists who were transcranial magnetically lobotomised, but the thugs who handled those scientists, carried his equipment, etc.
Nguyen.
Murty, Morty, Marty, Murtry.
I would also throw in Marco.
Just my opinion.
As for "righteous," I'm not really sure how you define that, but Prax was a hella good dude. And so was Alex. 🤷♂️
And while perhaps not "righteous" Holden's intentions were always admirable, even though he adopted questionable tactics.
Love it that they’re already loving it and questioning things. Show deserves all the love.
Best part of these reactions is listening to u two trying to connect all the dots
one thing I like about this show is there is no snidely whiplash over the top evil bad guy, everyone thinks they are righteous with righteous motivation.
The spy had rigged the airlock panel to electrocute Amos when he came back to execute him, then when Amos said they needed his help he had to scramble fast to disable the killswitch.
Welcome to the churn! From here on out, everything goes sideways and you are in for a ride.
Yep.
so true this is where i watched the show from next episode to like 3x6 in a weekend
Steven: "I love that this show is absolutely making my brain just go twisted with these theories"...
Probably not as much as us LOL....Love your channel and reactions. Stay safe and keep up the good work.
The beauty of this show is the density of the information and foreshadowing going on. Every visual has information. Screens in the backgrounds voices n the intercom or announcements going on in a station behind the main dialogue. Some of it will not make sense unti Season 3. But all of it is realistic no cartoon characters, people’s motivations are real and they change. Watch Holden change from the guy who wanted to stop Amos as time goes by.. and remember time is passing space is a big place.
Examples?
I love all the conspiracy theories. And all the revisions of said conspiracy theories. =)
Holding my breath till the next episode! And every episode after that :) Also, I would love to see your guys' reaction to Orphan Black! It's not just one of my favorite shows, but it's one of my favorite shows to watch reactions of, and it's got a superhuman performance by Tatiana Maslany.
I’m glad how enthusiastic you guys are, this show is awesome.
It's interesting seeing the thoughts you guys have about the drew members. I think y'all are in for a treat as more about them all gets revealed.
Two episodes a week!! Oh yeah. The cliffhangers get harder and harder to stop. Wife and I binged season 4 in two days. Truly some of the best Sci-Fi show today. Cheers.
You could say... they are "donkey balls deep" invested now haha
Just because Miller is a corrupt cop doesn't mean he is a bad cop or bad at his job
That’s an interesting thought. Can you expand on it? In curious.
@@NikkiStevenReact he take bribes, he looks the other way, he drinks a lot kinda lazy but when he actually does his job he's an actual good detective
@@NikkiStevenReact it's like he's a corrupt cop but good detective when he actually does his job
"Corrupt" really isn't the right term. He's not taking bribes, he's not dealing drugs, he's not stealing from people (until he raided Julie Mao's room, but she was dead and her dad is a tycoon). He strikes me as more of a long-time cop who operates by the street-rules, not so much the codified policies and regs of the job. Like the time somebody threw a bottle that sprayed broken glass on them. The female cop was all, "You just gonna let that go?!" Miller said, "Uh, he went that way." He knew running after the guy was running the fool's errand. 99% he's gonna get away and if caught, the penalty is so light that it's not worth the time and effort. Rookie cop is the type that hands out a ticket for every little thing. Veteran cop is like, "Screw that. Go after what's important. Jaywalking isn't it."
Holden and Co aren't going to Eros, that's just the cover story to get them close to that asteroid Fred Johnson sent them to in order to pick up "Lionel Polanski."
Absolutely LOVE that ya'll are reacting to this!! I watched it for the first time a few weeks ago and was immediately hooked :))))
Lol, can't wait for you guys to get to know the Roci crew better and then remember your earlier assessments of them. It's going to be so funny🤭 I'll say this as well, I love all of the Roci crew and Amos, is one of my top 2 favorites on the show. I have a feeling you guys are going understand him more soon😉 Great reaction guys👍🏽
I'm having such a good time watching you speculate, this is amazing 😂
You two probably have been told this already, but the actor who plays Amos, Wes Chatham, is apparently a big Jiu Jitsu enthusiast.
Just want to say I'm enjoying watching you all experience a show that I really loved watching. Its quite a ride. Turn and burn!
Oh, Steven. My dude. So awesome that you bravely put your theories out knowing how much the show holds its cards close to the chest.
All, er, more, um, some ... some things will be revealed eventually. LOL!
Amos always chooses violence and it works out.
This episode does a good job of showing how Holden is good but naïve. When Amos goes down to the entry door to get ready to take out the Martians if they board, he accuses Amos of babbling and acts like he's a psychotic fool. No, Amos was the only one seeing the situation clearly and knowing what had to be done. It was probably going to be a choice of fighting it out or doing life in prison. It was a clear case of "them or us". Holden, due to his inexperience with these things, still thinks that he can talk his way out of anything if he's reasonable. Amos knows that if you try that, they'll just run straight over you. The Martians will want to hold somebody responsible for the loss of the Donnager. Guilty or not, the Rocinante crew will be held up as an example of what happens to terrorists that f**k with Mars. Amos is right, the last two ships that they were on both exploded under mysterious circumstances, how the hell are they NOT going to be labeled terrorists? Amos is also right that Holden is all good with being the guy out front as long as he's personally benefitting and life is good. The real measure of a man is how you react when all your available choices are bad and you somehow have to pick one. He wants to be Ghandi and not spill the "innocent blood" of guys that would take him out in a New York second and not lose a second of sleep over it.
I love all of the Steven crazy theories 😂😂😂
Alex is from Mars. Chrisjen is from earth. Dawes is the head of the OPA on Ceres. Maybe you're right, but that is quite a stretch to put those in the same camp.
Great time to step up to 2 a week, loving the reactions.
I love the dynamics between the crew members and how trust and aligences change between them as they go through things😁
Great insight into Fred Johnson about just following orders.
I love your theories; right or wrong, they're fun to listen to. We are getting closer to the real meat of the story.
Great reaction and can’t wait to see how your thoughts change on everyone as the series keeps going.
There are protagonists and antagonists in this show but few real "bad guys". Everyone is motivated by different values (ends vs means / principles vs survival).
Eh idk. Dresden, Errinwright, Nguyen, Jules Pierre Mao, Cpt. Martens, Dr Strickland, and Marco Inaros are all pretty irredeemable.
@@dapeach06 I disagree. Also I don't want to spoil it with discussion here.
This show was so good. I literally binged 4 seasons In 3 weeks
Keep the theories coming, highly entertaining :)
I just realized while looking at Steven's shirt that Holden has the same sappy look as John Snow.
Just finished this episode and its cool 😎 seeing that you guys are as clueless as i am , reading the comments are very helpful without spoiling anything .
Remember Christjen talking to that guy about his spy at the Zoo and him saying something roughly like, "I did my job, I screwed over Fred Johnson." Meaning back from the Anderson Station incident...
After you've finished s2 of this show I want you to go back and watch this reaction!!!!!!
It's fun watching with you guys. Just don't assume yourself into a box!
"Welcome to the Churn"
Naomi and Alex were conniving to maintain control of the Rocinante. And you can now link the first episode title, the name of the ship, and this episode's title together and figure out just who is Don Quixote.
Amos is good but utterly remorseless, if that's possible. It is clear even at this point that he could kill almost anyone and not feel a thing. He is a fantastic character though.
The show doesn't really explain what the spy was doing in the airlock, but I suspect that he booby-trapped the lock to electrocute Amos if he came to kill him, which is why he broke it after Amos came to let him out to help.
I'm pretty sure he was reversing the door controls, so when Amos spaced him, it would instead let him back into the ship. There's no way the Martians would wire their ship poorly enough that he could rig something to electrocute Amos.
Kenzo was attempting to override the airlock controls in order to escape.
Love watching your reactions to The Expanse, been a fan of your channel since Stranger Things days. Really looking forward to seeing your reactions when this show begins to really unfold. Can't wait. You'll definitely be on the edge of your seat.
You are right to analyse everything said and done, as I watch you guys watching this, there are things I missed that only paid of seasons later. The story/world/solar system building is all linked and things pay off eventually. Nothing is "filler" here.
I gotta admit. I usually spend half of my time making theories about this show's mysteries, and the other half being obsessed over Chrisjen's outfits. This winter dress is my favorite this season.
Guys, BCS is wrapping up in a week. Is there any chance you react to Westworld season 3. It's getting sooooo great! Please take a look.
The Council of Nine They announced before Westworld season 3 started that they were just going to watch it on their own and not react because of all the trouble they had with copyright on the previous seasons. The most we might hope for might be a couple of reviews, or even just one at the end.
Matthew Williams Huh. I didn't knew about it. Sad. I'll miss their reactions to it.
So many theories... I love it !
Anyone know the song when Miller walks into the club to confront Dawes???
Donkey balls stands for Dont Board
You guys need to go 4 eps a week lol. Selfishly can't wait for you to get fuuurther in
Me too🙋🏽♀️
MORE!
See it gets better and better 👍 It's really cool watching you guys diving deep into it , I'd suggest if you can read the Churn which is Amos'es back story and the other novellas which expand on the Expanse universe without putting in Spoilers to the main story.
I Love this series as much as I loved Game of thrones.
Only difference is one of these series knows how to finish strong
That remains to be seen so don't go jinxing it.
holden is jon snow in space
11:27 Elias Toufexis = Adam Jensen! Woooo!
*Steven takes Occam's Razor and puts it in the airlock*
You need to identify the different factions first, then place each character into each faction as an origin .. then determine if they've had a change of heart that would cause them to change up factions. The very first episode we learned that Christian despises the OPA enough to torture a captive belter she thought might be OPA... what we learned about her in this episode is the reason she hates the OPA..they killed her son. Think of the OPA as belter extremists.
I have little time for tv cuz I work so hard but i do want to say I did watch your videos on GOT and Chernobyl. I just want to say you guys are so cool 😎! Keep up the good work!
Steve, you've got lots of theories. Some right, some wrong. I won't say which is which, just that I look forward to seeing more from you guys. I love this show, so much.
Watching you try to figure this out shows how good the writing is...rock on! (yo)
Steven got some wild theories, man 😁
Some completely wrong mixed in with some completely right 😉
Nikki got a finely-tuned gut feeling about most characters, both main and minor ones👌
Man, that Martian interrogator really got in your head, Steven
Did you almost say Kenzo 'snuggled' his was onto the ship? 😝
This show gets better and better. If you like this season you'll love season 2 & 3!
I mostly have to laugh so damn hard at your speculations. You get a few things right here and there, but so many are just not even close.
Another problem you have is you keep thinking this is like so many other shows, and everything is "Black & White" aka "Good or Bad" this show is so many onion layers of grey. There are some really REALLY dark folks in the show for sure, some irredeemable evil folks, but even those, are not simplistic doing evil for evil sakes.
I don't remember where the quote came from, but this show really makes the quote "Everyone is the hero of their own story" so true. Even those doing the most evil of all, in the end, think they are justified to do what they are doing for the "benefit" of their own people, whether that's their faction or all humanity as they see it.
Don't fuck with Amos is right! My boy is quite layered tho, wait until you get to know him better. Great reaction as always!
The Expanse is great. You're going to have a completely new set of theories by the end of this season. 😁
The best part of Thursday!
You guys are my favorites!
Steven should do more theory crafting every episode.
I agree with your take that Fred Johnson might not be such a bad guy, but I disagree on the why. "I vas just folloving ordas" should not be considered an excuse.
I remember the first time I watched this I was like man, if GOT ever needed to recast Jon Snow, the actor that plays Holden can totally do it lol
This is a show where it's important to take note of the facts, but not fall into the trap of interpreting the facts. For example, we KNOW Miller got fired. The why is implied but wasn't explained in the last episode. It's very easy to make an ironclad theory based on supposition and still be completely wrong. Operation Tailwind is a good real world example.
And if they're wrong with their theories, what happens? Nothing. It's fun, it lets them go over plot points together, and it allows us see where their head is at with what's happening, win-win.
@@afontana89 Having seen a lot of fandom for a lot of shows over the years go nuts picking apart every detail, you can definitely reach a point where your own ideas and speculation start to take over your viewing experience, and I think it can be detrimental - when the viewer gets mad that the plot isn't nearly as convoluted as what they came up with in their head. And honestly, this just isn't the show for that kind of viewing - this isn't a mystery show like Lost or Westworld, it's actually pretty straightforward in being about decisions people make in the moment rather than twists being revealed.
90% of the fun of these expanse reacts is Steven's theories.
Not gonna spoil anything, but you guys definitely seem to be asking the right questions and on to some of the clues.
Luv you guys reactions. I think you guys are smarter than the writers. Don't over-thunk it.
I think you may have taken 'Game of Thrones in Space' a little to literally with the whole 'everyone is a secret double agent' theory.
Spot on Steven, about Fred. You’ll learn a little more about the. It use thing later. And it’s actually a bit worse than you think. But not in a way that makes Fred “bad”.
We need more episodes a week :P
It is weird hearing Avasarala referred to by her first name regularly. I've never heard anyone do that before.
You two are the most suspicious people I've ever seen watching this, lol. Can't wait until you get to the finale of Season 1.
DONKEY BALLS !!! Finally :)
I understand why everyone views Anderson Dawes as a villain, because both the books and show portray him like that, only because the books are POV, and the show has to adapt it some way. But he really isn't a villain, he's just an antagonist to our protagonist, but to the most disadvantaged people, he is a literal messiah, because he is genuinely doing things for the people most abused by the elitist Earthers and Martians. He's not even like Thanos, where some people think he was doing the right thing the wrong way. Dawes is doing the right thing the ONLY way he can, otherwise the overwhelming and untouchable advantages Earth and Mars have over the Belters will leave them to stay oppressed with no hope of equality, or even just a small cut of what they truly deserve for the work they do.
The bird outside Julie's apartment is real. It looks weird because the gravity on Ceres is low so it doesn't have to flap it's wings so often. It also shows how much attention to detail on physics they do on The Expanse
Birds used in underground mines to detect gases that could kill a human. They would be affected before a human.
@@mmay2669 Hence the saying "like a canary in a coal mine" ;)
@M 40 easy, look for the jumps the astronauts made in their super heavy suits, and the moon has much more gravity than Ceres. You could probably jump right to the ceiling of the larger open areas.
@@ProvidenceNL Ceres Station doesn't have the natural gravity of Ceres. It is supplemented by spin gravity to the standard Martian 1/3G, like most stations and ships in this universe. They demonstrate this in one of the early episodes by showing the Coriolis Effect when Miller poured a drink.
@@ShaunRF I know? I'm talking about the spin gravity. Not sure what you think I was talking about. Edit: ah I see I mixed up the numbers, welp that's a bit embarrassing.
As we have all long since learnt: Death would rather try to take Chuck Norris, than face Amos.