@@hamishsewell4214 Why would anything have happened to them? I assume they would be a massive Pan-Galactic empire at this point given millions or billions of years of evolution and technological advance.
In my opinion, the space battle in this episode is the most realistic ever on tv or movie. You empty all air from the inside of your ship so when you get shot you don't have explosive decompression, then you throw projectiles at each other, take out any missiles, and hope that you take out more of their critical systems and crew than they do yours. No shields/deflectors, etc.
There is endless potential compared to other space battles, because they don't ignore g-force and changing gravity (microgravity & thrust gravity). All loose objects in the ships can become weapons and the way you fight and move inside the ship can change depending on the gravity & g-force. I love how much thought they put into their attack as well. They knew the stealth ship had a big advantage by beeing hidden + that railgun. That's why they were hiding in the radar shadow of the Guy Molinari, then simulated the spinning movement of a loose cargo container while approching Thoth station. Depressurizing their ship to avoid explosive decompression, fire & unwanted "thrusters" when their ship turns into a swizz cheese.
In other shows, those with "shields" protecting the crew during battle, It is a standard trope that while the battle rages, somebody is always shouting out the status of the shields, as being "50%.....30%.....10%" etc., as a device to heighten the tension of the scene and give the protagonists some time to pull a rabbit out of a hat and save the day. I'ts amazing how much more tension accompanies a scene without shields, when death might come at any millisecond, and there are no magical rabbits.
The OPA works kinda in the way the IRA in Ireland did, it's not completely all under one set of leadership, it's a bit de-centralised, made up of factions - all of which agree on the same goal but their methods vary as well as their level of extremism and steps they are willing to take to achieve these goals. You'll see this develop more as the series goes on and it's definitely going to be a factor of Belter society in the upcoming season 5.
@@ahdvd Well said, - but its not just the IRA - pretty much every insurgency that does not have outside backing that is really controlling it, ends up the same way - look at Columbia - multiple factions on each side. Also, the line between "freedom fighter" and criminal start to get really blurred the longer such an insurrection goes on - rob the bank to finance the "cause" or run some drugs - soon, some get more interested in the money/crime then the "cause", while other real criminals start to call themselves "freedom fighters" just to justify their actions and get help from the locals. A rebellion has to operate in the shadows - if the cops find out your dead, so everything has to be done in secrecy - which faction are you with - you may not even know! and the others, criminals, true believers, or something in between? This becomes an even bigger problem if the rebels win - now you have criminals in the ruling class, and the only thing everyone knows about politics is violence. This is what I love about the Expanse - its realism isn't just about the physics but the sociology, psychology, and politics too! The OPA acts just like a real insurrection - with all the good and the bad.
@@ericvandet8517 Absolutely - one of the things I think people get into in this show without realising it is the level of political commentary that is going on - if you told them that going in they would never watch it! I describe it to everyone who hasn't seen it as Battlestar Galactica meets Game Of Thrones, because you have a fair bit of political intrigue going on in both of those as well as everything else!
It is appropriate to the setting of the show. Shame other modern shows are not like this where ethnicity and race of characters is appropriate to the setting. Looking at you Netflix Witcher. There they threw a bunch of black dudes in a medieval europe-like setting for no reason other than to be woke and appeal to the whining SJWs on Twitter.
That’s why it’s popular still in this climate. Everything is racist or political so it’s actually refreshing to see a show with a diverse cast rely on its writing and merits as opposed to virtue points.
I'm always confused what the fuck people are talking about when they say "make a big deal about it". Like in what show do they go "OH COOL YOU'RE BLACK" within the show that makes some guys get worked up about?
@@jerodast I mostly mean the marketing not making a big deal out of it. With Shang Chi or Black Panther everyone was talking about how groundbreakingingly historic moments they were because of FIRST BLACK HERO or FIRST CHINESE HERO. With all the Star Trek(s) they always make a point about the diverse cast while also making the minority characters into annoying cultural ambassadors. The Expanse does none of that while still having the most diverse characters I've ever seen on TV or Movies.
This was the episode where I fell in love with the show. At the end of the first season I still thought that this was an ordinary show that uses the big mystery in the background as carrot to lead you around for several seasons, probably over the entire run of the show. But then they go straight after Dresden after only two episode. I thought "Great! We will get answers. This show really doesn't waste any time!". And then Miller kills the guy that seemingly knows everything about the big protomolecule mystery. At first I was like "NOOOOO!", but then I thought "Wow! It takes some balls to do that. They must be really, really certain that they have a strong story to tell!". And rest assured, they have! Don't worry, you will get all the answers you need, and you won't have to wait season after season for it. But once you have these answers, the questions you had will pale in comparison to the questions you will have then. In this episode the writers and production also really flexed their muscles for the first but certainly not the last time. First there is the fantastic space battle, where the production did an amazing job to tell you everything about the rules of this engangement just by adding seemingly meaningless elements to the sequence. And then there is the final confrontation with Dresden. Did you notice how every character moved accordingly to their motivations? Dresden was moving backwards, close and closer to the wall. Johnson and Holden were slowly following him into his rabbit hole. And Miller moved to the side and towards the door because he had a completely different opinion about the matter. A brilliant scene.
I love how they show the space combat in this show. The way they Roci crew were all in their space suits and had the compartment de-pressurized because they knew they'd be taking hits. The way the crew gets thrown around if they are not strapped in. Alex training with the simulation beforehand. Doors and corners, that's where they get ya.
This is the first appearance of Camina Drummer, she's the OPA chick with the real heavy Belter accent. She's Fred Johnson's right hand and she's a badass. She'll figure more and more prominently as the show goes on.
Admiral Souther is played by one of my favourite actors, his voice is just so oddly satisfying and soothing. My favourite two lines from him (And I don't consider these spoilers since I'm not giving context), are in this episode "But I prefer beer", and later on "Get the fuck out of my way sailor", just the way he says them are awesome
Yep he blinded himself by the great possibilities and great possible dangers. But his line of thinking comes from lots of assumptions and great visions at that point. Hardly enough to show any results but enough to get people hyped and on-board. The guy would be doing great if he kickstarted his ideas and experiments, I am sure. Which he kind of did, didnt he?
@@chaddesrosiers1107 The scientist at the end of the chapter was right. Why shooting him? That killed the series for me, why people can be so irrational? The scientist was right in all what he said. What do mankind gained by killing him?
@@thomashiggins9320 By shooting him, they are getting the problem worse, don't you get it? even the entire civilization could go extinct by such stupid emotional reaction. If Mengele was the best shot you have to save billions of people, you use it, don't condemn billions to die just because you want to be on a high horse. You are becoming responsible of more dead people by doing such stupid acts, and you become more guilty than the one you killed.
As we said, this season takes the show to a new level. In terms of your argument about whether or not the scientist was talking about saving earthers, keep in mind that he said he doesn't care who is basically leading the charge; he just wants to get back to his research. In other words, it appears that he is neutral and was referring to saving humanity in general. But yeah... this season ... 😁
The scientist at the end of the chapter was right. Why shooting him? That killed the series for me, why people can be so irrational? The scientist was right in all what he said.
@@dartherus The scientist was coldly logical, but Miller saw that the protomolecule was becoming more important that human lives. Fred Johnson and Holden were becoming convinced that studying the protomolecule was worth losing Eros. Dresden and many of the other scientists, as we come to realize, were unempathetic. When we lose our empathy, we lose what makes us human.
Amos is my favorite. He was damaged at a young age. He knows it and has adapted to it. He knows he's not a leader, so he finds someone he thinks is a good person and becomes their champion.
Yeah, it's great. It's like he has no morals of his own but has a desire to be good, so finds someone who he thinks is good and piggy-backs their moral compass.
The scientist said it doesn't matter who runs the project (earth, mars, OPA, whoever), so long as they continue the work. He's scared that there will be an alien invasion, and he wants to use their tech to advance humanity, and if millions of humans need to die to accomplish it, then it's worth it.
Yes but its retarded to begin with, he himself sed aliens shot that thing billions years ago, i mean its kind off enough time to invade numerous galact/systems
They dynamics of the crew gives me firefly vibes! The rest of the show is much larger scale and I love the politics of the factions. Loving your reactions
"how are they not dead??" Because Alex is an absolutely amazing pilot. (I know this is old) but I can't wait to see you, see more Drummer. She is absolutly a fucking badass.
It's easy to forget or overlook that the asteroid belt and outer planets are, at best, colonies of Earth and Mars. This is subtly highlighted by the discussion regarding Phoebe, in orbit way out with Saturn, but not a "Belter facility", but one owned and operated jointly by Earth and Mars. The Martian and UN navies patrol Belter space, and Belters seem incapable of doing anything about it. I like to imagine this situation is similar to North America and The Hudson Bay Company, or India and the East India Co., with supposed colonial governments having jurisdiction far, far away from the homeland, but mainly to protect the activities of the companies exploiting the locals and claiming ownership of the local resources. The OPA is not a Belter government. It is not even an organization. This was the lesson from the scene where Fred tossed that guy out of the airlock. How many Belters were in that room? Each represented a different faction within the supposed OPA, which is more a cause believed in by lots of Belters for a variety of disparate reasons than a governing organization. First the butchering of the Belters at Anderson Station, and now the casual murder of 100,000 Belters on Eros. It is also easy to overlook the horror of both of those incidents while worried for the safety of our heroes. It only gets better from here on out. Hard to believe, but true. TRUE!
Yes. And when Diogo and his uncle were accosted by that Martian patrol, we saw how casually the Martians were willing to put them into a death situation in space. That was an everyday occurrence for Belters. Belter lives do not matter to Earth or Mars. We have seen only one Earther who has spoken up for the lives of Belters...that French doctor who urged the UN to send a medical mission to Eros (on a background med bay screen in the first episode of season 2). That guy seemed concerned. But he's been the only one.
That phrase “not even a rounding error” turns up a lot in the books. You two are so cute. I love watching you guys discover what I know inside and out. Glad you’re loving it. Hope nobody spoils the good sh!t for ya.
God I fucking love this show so much. You are in for an absolutely treat with the rest of this season, and then somehow it gets even better from there!
I know this is years late and nobody will see this but Daniel Kash, the guy who plays Dr. Dresden who Miller shot at the end? He was the dropship copilot, Private Spunkmeyer in Aliens.
When I saw this notification I was like YES! I love this show SOOOOO MUCH! I am truly baffled why it doesn't get more recognition? Like Steven said " the writing the cast the special effects " it's truly a hidden treasure! Can't wait for the next reaction video!
All I have to say is. Y’all are geeking about this episode. I can’t wait to see you guys reaction to everything after this point. Honestly, I hope you guys start splitting up some of the episodes into two parts because there is so much great character moments/plot developments and great action I dont know how you guys are going to edit it down for us. Please keep going with the show. It’s not the most popular show but I think it’s one of the best genre shows ever and I’m excited that you guys may help get the word out in this show.
You could tell while that guy was talking that Miller wasn't buying any of that shit. He just was waiting to see how Johnson would react. It was pretty plain to see what Miller thought of all that shit. I forgot just how badass this episode was. It's not like Thanos. The goal isn't to kill people. They're just collateral damage of the experiment.
Love it, Love it, Love it..... been waiting for a long time for you to react to The Expanse and this is why! That excitement from Steven, the 'O' face from nikki and just the pure enjoyment from watching you's see this for the first time.Just knew you both would love it, who wouldn't. Did you realise your both now Screaming Firehawks too :) Cant wait for more, honestly, love you two. I became a £5 patron in march (for my first for anyone) and realized you had the Expanse on the £10 tier, but yeah its worth! I'm becoming a patron for you both again.
Glad you’re liking it. This season is fucking nuts. There’s going to be an episode later on that is just going to wreck you (in a good way). Thanks for your reactions. My wife and I watch you guys a lot.
It's so awesome to see you guys as hype as you are about this show. I know I keep saying this, but if you think this is already cranked way up, you should prepare yourselves and hang on tight. You are in for one hell of a ride. And I agree. The characters are the best part of it. They actually have character arcs with real development that makes sense for where they've come from and what happens to and around them. Like you said, this is just getting started. I cannot wait.
I needed something to cheer myself up today, so I decided to re-watch this video again. I think this maybe the first time I've ever watched a reaction video more than once.
So dope that the two of them are so invested already and it is just warming up 🙂 ...and Steven had it completely right for once and got his “aliens” too 😂
So cool to see how much you are enjoying it all, the story, the writing, characters, production values and actors. Talking about actors, you should see all their amazing effort and contribution trying to revive and sell the show to another platform (thank you Amazon Prime) after the SyFy channel cancelled it at the end of season 3.
4:13 Holden is a genetically modified Earther. (S1E7) He carries the genes of 8 parents so he is legally the child of all of them. IF YOU CAN AFFORD THAT, you can probably afford to get rid of any genetic "imperfections" (color blindness, lactose intolerence. Tayseks, sickle cell, etc., etc. etc.). Not super power enhanced, just less "imperfect". Wouldn't you do that for your child?
The floating coffee cup is a beautiful example of relative motion. Holden leaves the cup still in mid-air, but after Alex maneuvers to free tumble towards the station the cup seems to tumble itself but it is just keeping its original position.
Love seeing you fall in love with the show like the rest of us. Now you can see why there was an unprecedented campaign to save the show when SyFy cancelled it. And can you believe it gets better yet?! Hold onto your seats, beltalowdas...
The actions of the scientists in this episode always reminds me of the Jeff Goldblum character's quote in Jurassic Park..."Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should." ...and then some Tyrannosaurus Rex eats everybody.
Amos is way more layered than you think. There are scenes in future eps that really, subtly develope him as a character. You'll be surprised at the depth of the character. The actor worked closely with the writers of the books to portray him accurately.
Wes Chathom also worked with a psychiatrist to better understand Amos and why he makes the choices he does. He said he read the books and Amos is his favorite character.
Know it's a year later but.... The "mad scientist" Dresden is played by the same actor who played Spunkmeyer in Aliens. It was his debut role. The writers love Alien and there are easter eggs for it in first episodes.
As someone mentioned this is the first episode with Camina Drummer. This show does a fantastic job of showing strong female characters... and you are going to love Drummer.
i LOVE the expanse :D everything is so good! i hate that it doesn't get the recognition it deserves man :) i went to MCM london last year cosplaying Alex and only met 1 other expanse cosplayer while the authors where there!
This is why season 2 is still my favorite season, the pace is awesome and i feel like this is the season where you get the most valuable information on what's going on
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned, but Book 1 of "The Expanse" ends with Season 2, episodes 4 & 5. Those two episodes really should be watched back to back. I think it aired as a 2hr special. As intense as this episode was, buckle up, the ride just gets better and better.
To add to what others have said about Gunnery Sergeant Draper, the "Gunny" is a special rank in the US Marine Corps, and apparently so in the MCRN. The Gunny is not an officer, but is widely recognized below and above in the chain of command as being the most savvy person in a combat situation. Everyone pays attention to what Gunny has to say. You may have noticed the conflict between the two UN Navy admirals, with Admiral Souther arguing against escalating military conflict and Admiral Nguyen constantly wanting to heat things up. I hadn't paid attention to before was that Avasalara sent Errinwright the tip about striking Deimos. She's no pacifist. You caught that right away. If you go back and review the dialog between Colonel Fred Johnson and the Anderson Station protestors, it's clear (in hindsight) that Johnson isn't hearing what they're saying. Their responses were jammed. This was the best space combat I've ever seen. One thing that made it enjoyable was knowing how hard Alex had trained to learn how to traverse close to the stealth ship without coming into range of its guns. If you noticed, Miller had moved back and began watching Holden and Johnson instead of Dresden. He shot Dresden when he saw Holden and Johnson beginning to accept Dresden's offer. Dresden may or may not be talking strictly about saving Earthers, Earth would wind up controlling it. We can figure that Mao is "Earth first," and Errinwright certainly is, and even Avasalara has said so more than once.
Really enjoying your reactions to the series for the first time. Having seen all the episodes and then seeing a fresh pair (or two pairs) of eyes on what happening in each episode, is wonderful to see. More reactions please what about 3 or 4 a week come on there's so much more to see, I can't wait to see what you both think of it all. Well done and keep them coming, please. 🤗🤗🤗😆😆😆
"Gunny" is short for Gunnery Seargeant Roberta "Bobbie" Draper of the Martian Marine Corps. You will hopefully like Bobbie as she evolves. In the books, you are told that Bobbie is of Maori descent.
I'm glad Steven is so stimulated by the show it is a great and intelligent sci Fi ,and the plot and cast did such a great job. Nikkis face makes me laugh she like my hubby luv dis shit.
Been waiting for this episode for Steve to find out that he was right about aliens. The space combat is also ranked as one of the best scifi battles filmed. A good example where less is more ( as oppose to a fleet of ships fighting it out). So good.
Your faces during the battle between the Roci and the stealth ship was just what I expected. Were you guys even breathing while Amos was getting tossed around??
You said it: "Master Race". This is the same monster the Allies opened the doors on in Auschwitz and Mathausen and exactly the same argument. Many wish we'd had a Miller there to blast them all to hell instead of giving them the opportunity to excuse themselves for this shit. The depraved things they did in the name of science. Miller could see Dresden turning minds around right there and he acted. BTW the Mars word you are grasping for is Terraforming. Don't judge Bobbie yet. Like all our other characters (except Dresden), it's better not to rush to judgement.
Your reactions to this show are just awesome. My favourite show, movie, anything right now. IMO this is the 3rd big WTF episode (S1E8, S1E10, S2E2) of many to come. If I'm right May 13-14 is a day I'm looking forward to. Can't wait to see their reactions to all of it :)
He was talking about humans being able to travel the galaxy and hibernate the whole trip without need of concern for protection. To be able to habitat on any planet in any atmosphere. Guess the guy who shot him has thing against God complex.
Challenging: How many times was the phrase “oh my god” said this episode?
Nikki & Steven React if the protomolocule was sent millions or billions ago, what happened to whoever/whatever sent it, I wonder
@@hamishsewell4214 Why would anything have happened to them? I assume they would be a massive Pan-Galactic empire at this point given millions or billions of years of evolution and technological advance.
@@darksfallen Fermi's paradox. If they're out there, they're awfully sneaky.
7, I think.
darksfallen what happened as in are they still around, I meant
In my opinion, the space battle in this episode is the most realistic ever on tv or movie. You empty all air from the inside of your ship so when you get shot you don't have explosive decompression, then you throw projectiles at each other, take out any missiles, and hope that you take out more of their critical systems and crew than they do yours. No shields/deflectors, etc.
It’s one of the hallmarks of the series. No swooping maneuvering jus rolling and tumbling through the void whipping rocks at each other.
There is endless potential compared to other space battles, because they don't ignore g-force and changing gravity (microgravity & thrust gravity). All loose objects in the ships can become weapons and the way you fight and move inside the ship can change depending on the gravity & g-force.
I love how much thought they put into their attack as well. They knew the stealth ship had a big advantage by beeing hidden + that railgun. That's why they were hiding in the radar shadow of the Guy Molinari, then simulated the spinning movement of a loose cargo container while approching Thoth station. Depressurizing their ship to avoid explosive decompression, fire & unwanted "thrusters" when their ship turns into a swizz cheese.
Got it in one. In space, combat would be eggshells with hammers -- or glass cannons -- and only last seconds.
Before entering battle they got their pressure suits on and decompressed the ship to prevent them ripping apart under fire.
In other shows, those with "shields" protecting the crew during battle, It is a standard trope that while the battle rages, somebody is always shouting out the status of the shields, as being "50%.....30%.....10%" etc., as a device to heighten the tension of the scene and give the protagonists some time to pull a rabbit out of a hat and save the day.
I'ts amazing how much more tension accompanies a scene without shields, when death might come at any millisecond, and there are no magical rabbits.
Just getting this in early, Gunny stands for her rank in the MCRN, she's a Gunnery Sargent.
Little extra detail too, she's a Gunnery Sergeant in their Force Recon group (which gets the Powered Armor). She's Special Forces.
Gunnery Sergeant Roberta "Bobbie" W. Draper
Has there been a reactor yet that was actually familiar with that rank nickname?
@@Melancthon7332 I've only seen one.
Aliens. “But you all knew.” Yeah, we all knew!
Patrick W 😎
Yeah, but they ain't what they seem...
"There's OPA, and then there's OPA."
-every member of the OPA at some point
No true scotsman... IN SPACE!
The OPA works kinda in the way the IRA in Ireland did, it's not completely all under one set of leadership, it's a bit de-centralised, made up of factions - all of which agree on the same goal but their methods vary as well as their level of extremism and steps they are willing to take to achieve these goals. You'll see this develop more as the series goes on and it's definitely going to be a factor of Belter society in the upcoming season 5.
@@ahdvd Well said, - but its not just the IRA - pretty much every insurgency that does not have outside backing that is really controlling it, ends up the same way - look at Columbia - multiple factions on each side. Also, the line between "freedom fighter" and criminal start to get really blurred the longer such an insurrection goes on - rob the bank to finance the "cause" or run some drugs - soon, some get more interested in the money/crime then the "cause", while other real criminals start to call themselves "freedom fighters" just to justify their actions and get help from the locals. A rebellion has to operate in the shadows - if the cops find out your dead, so everything has to be done in secrecy - which faction are you with - you may not even know! and the others, criminals, true believers, or something in between? This becomes an even bigger problem if the rebels win - now you have criminals in the ruling class, and the only thing everyone knows about politics is violence. This is what I love about the Expanse - its realism isn't just about the physics but the sociology, psychology, and politics too! The OPA acts just like a real insurrection - with all the good and the bad.
@@ericvandet8517 Absolutely - one of the things I think people get into in this show without realising it is the level of political commentary that is going on - if you told them that going in they would never watch it! I describe it to everyone who hasn't seen it as Battlestar Galactica meets Game Of Thrones, because you have a fair bit of political intrigue going on in both of those as well as everything else!
I love how the show has a huge multiethnic cast and doesn't make a big deal out of it. It's just normal and makes sense.
It is appropriate to the setting of the show. Shame other modern shows are not like this where ethnicity and race of characters is appropriate to the setting. Looking at you Netflix Witcher. There they threw a bunch of black dudes in a medieval europe-like setting for no reason other than to be woke and appeal to the whining SJWs on Twitter.
That’s why it’s popular still in this climate. Everything is racist or political so it’s actually refreshing to see a show with a diverse cast rely on its writing and merits as opposed to virtue points.
I'm always confused what the fuck people are talking about when they say "make a big deal about it". Like in what show do they go "OH COOL YOU'RE BLACK" within the show that makes some guys get worked up about?
@@jerodast I mostly mean the marketing not making a big deal out of it. With Shang Chi or Black Panther everyone was talking about how groundbreakingingly historic moments they were because of FIRST BLACK HERO or FIRST CHINESE HERO. With all the Star Trek(s) they always make a point about the diverse cast while also making the minority characters into annoying cultural ambassadors.
The Expanse does none of that while still having the most diverse characters I've ever seen on TV or Movies.
It's Canada. It's super multiethnic and not so racist. Unlike other New world countries.
This was the episode where I fell in love with the show.
At the end of the first season I still thought that this was an ordinary show that uses the big mystery in the background as carrot to lead you around for several seasons, probably over the entire run of the show. But then they go straight after Dresden after only two episode. I thought "Great! We will get answers. This show really doesn't waste any time!". And then Miller kills the guy that seemingly knows everything about the big protomolecule mystery.
At first I was like "NOOOOO!", but then I thought "Wow! It takes some balls to do that. They must be really, really certain that they have a strong story to tell!". And rest assured, they have! Don't worry, you will get all the answers you need, and you won't have to wait season after season for it. But once you have these answers, the questions you had will pale in comparison to the questions you will have then.
In this episode the writers and production also really flexed their muscles for the first but certainly not the last time. First there is the fantastic space battle, where the production did an amazing job to tell you everything about the rules of this engangement just by adding seemingly meaningless elements to the sequence. And then there is the final confrontation with Dresden. Did you notice how every character moved accordingly to their motivations? Dresden was moving backwards, close and closer to the wall. Johnson and Holden were slowly following him into his rabbit hole. And Miller moved to the side and towards the door because he had a completely different opinion about the matter. A brilliant scene.
Wow, you open my eyes to this! I've watched all seasons of this show 4 times and never caught that! Thank you! ☺
Miller also moved away to be able to keep an eye on Holden and Johnson.
He shot Dresden when he saw they were starting to _listen_ to him.
@@mbpoblet Yup. Dresden was making too much sense! 😊
I love how they show the space combat in this show. The way they Roci crew were all in their space suits and had the compartment de-pressurized because they knew they'd be taking hits. The way the crew gets thrown around if they are not strapped in. Alex training with the simulation beforehand.
Doors and corners, that's where they get ya.
This is the first appearance of Camina Drummer, she's the OPA chick with the real heavy Belter accent. She's Fred Johnson's right hand and she's a badass. She'll figure more and more prominently as the show goes on.
Admiral Souther is played by one of my favourite actors, his voice is just so oddly satisfying and soothing. My favourite two lines from him (And I don't consider these spoilers since I'm not giving context), are in this episode "But I prefer beer", and later on "Get the fuck out of my way sailor", just the way he says them are awesome
Scientist guy: "I don't care who controls the project..."
He doesn't care about allegences or planets. Just the research and it's applications.
Yep he blinded himself by the great possibilities and great possible dangers. But his line of thinking comes from lots of assumptions and great visions at that point. Hardly enough to show any results but enough to get people hyped and on-board. The guy would be doing great if he kickstarted his ideas and experiments, I am sure. Which he kind of did, didnt he?
And exactly why Miller had to shoot him.
@@chaddesrosiers1107 The scientist at the end of the chapter was right. Why shooting him? That killed the series for me, why people can be so irrational? The scientist was right in all what he said. What do mankind gained by killing him?
@@dartherus You put that sick twist down for the same reason you'd shoot Josef Mengele right in the face.
Mass murderers don't live.
@@thomashiggins9320 By shooting him, they are getting the problem worse, don't you get it? even the entire civilization could go extinct by such stupid emotional reaction.
If Mengele was the best shot you have to save billions of people, you use it, don't condemn billions to die just because you want to be on a high horse. You are becoming responsible of more dead people by doing such stupid acts, and you become more guilty than the one you killed.
As we said, this season takes the show to a new level.
In terms of your argument about whether or not the scientist was talking about saving earthers, keep in mind that he said he doesn't care who is basically leading the charge; he just wants to get back to his research. In other words, it appears that he is neutral and was referring to saving humanity in general. But yeah... this season ... 😁
The scientist at the end of the chapter was right. Why shooting him? That killed the series for me, why people can be so irrational? The scientist was right in all what he said.
@@dartherus people *are* irrational. Traumatised people even more so. Life is messy.
@@dartherus The scientist was coldly logical, but Miller saw that the protomolecule was becoming more important that human lives. Fred Johnson and Holden were becoming convinced that studying the protomolecule was worth losing Eros. Dresden and many of the other scientists, as we come to realize, were unempathetic. When we lose our empathy, we lose what makes us human.
I think Steve may be the only Expanse fan who correctly called Fred Johnson's backstory after watching S1E5.
it isn't that tough to deduce tho
Amos is my favorite. He was damaged at a young age. He knows it and has adapted to it. He knows he's not a leader, so he finds someone he thinks is a good person and becomes their champion.
Yeah, it's great. It's like he has no morals of his own but has a desire to be good, so finds someone who he thinks is good and piggy-backs their moral compass.
@@direnova6284 The Churn, read if you haven't already.
30:49 - "...don't fuck with Drummer..."
oh, a little too early for that :)
The scientist said it doesn't matter who runs the project (earth, mars, OPA, whoever), so long as they continue the work. He's scared that there will be an alien invasion, and he wants to use their tech to advance humanity, and if millions of humans need to die to accomplish it, then it's worth it.
Yes but its retarded to begin with, he himself sed aliens shot that thing billions years ago, i mean its kind off enough time to invade numerous galact/systems
They dynamics of the crew gives me firefly vibes! The rest of the show is much larger scale and I love the politics of the factions. Loving your reactions
@watashi I am a leaf on the wind 😁
"how are they not dead??" Because Alex is an absolutely amazing pilot. (I know this is old) but I can't wait to see you, see more Drummer. She is absolutly a fucking badass.
Stay strapped in and get ready for the Juice! This season does NOT slow down from here.
All 4 seasons are adrenaline every episode haha.
Steven (sees Diogo): Yikes.
Me: Yes, that is correct.
It's easy to forget or overlook that the asteroid belt and outer planets are, at best, colonies of Earth and Mars. This is subtly highlighted by the discussion regarding Phoebe, in orbit way out with Saturn, but not a "Belter facility", but one owned and operated jointly by Earth and Mars. The Martian and UN navies patrol Belter space, and Belters seem incapable of doing anything about it.
I like to imagine this situation is similar to North America and The Hudson Bay Company, or India and the East India Co., with supposed colonial governments having jurisdiction far, far away from the homeland, but mainly to protect the activities of the companies exploiting the locals and claiming ownership of the local resources. The OPA is not a Belter government. It is not even an organization. This was the lesson from the scene where Fred tossed that guy out of the airlock. How many Belters were in that room? Each represented a different faction within the supposed OPA, which is more a cause believed in by lots of Belters for a variety of disparate reasons than a governing organization.
First the butchering of the Belters at Anderson Station, and now the casual murder of 100,000 Belters on Eros. It is also easy to overlook the horror of both of those incidents while worried for the safety of our heroes.
It only gets better from here on out. Hard to believe, but true. TRUE!
Yes. And when Diogo and his uncle were accosted by that Martian patrol, we saw how casually the Martians were willing to put them into a death situation in space. That was an everyday occurrence for Belters. Belter lives do not matter to Earth or Mars.
We have seen only one Earther who has spoken up for the lives of Belters...that French doctor who urged the UN to send a medical mission to Eros (on a background med bay screen in the first episode of season 2). That guy seemed concerned. But he's been the only one.
Life is a cycle and when we do make it out into space I'm afraid we will repeat a lot of what happened on Earth.
Doors and corners, that's where they get ya
No, they got me at Close Quarters Battle (actually before, but...)
@@ericvandet8517 Exactly, CQB sealed my fate
It's so weird to watch this again after season 4... so many Miller lines ahaha
Yasssss. Enter DRUMMER! My personal favorite Belter!
The way this show introduces and then removes character is so seamless.
The small segment at 15:08 shows the depth, look at Nikki. So much info to be digested at once she shut down :D great show
haha, i love how steven repeatedly looks to nikki with a look that just says "are you seeing this shit!"..... so cute 😂
Yep :D
Watching your reactions to the Expanse ......loads of fun
Nikki's reaction at the end.....hilarious
Screaming Firehawksss!!!
Nikki: Rolls eyes
LOL
That always cracks me up. XD
Toss a coin to your screaming firehawks.
This season and season 3 are some of the best sci tv you will ever see. Buckle up, its a wild, amazing ride.
My favorite Belter Is here... Drum... Roll... Please... '' Druuuuuuuuuuuummer '
I just love how you guys smile when you talk about this show and its cast💗
That phrase “not even a rounding error” turns up a lot in the books. You two are so cute. I love watching you guys discover what I know inside and out. Glad you’re loving it. Hope nobody spoils the good sh!t for ya.
Love how into the show you guys are! Steven you pretty much got it figured out. Glad you guys love the cast, they are all amazing.
God I fucking love this show so much. You are in for an absolutely treat with the rest of this season, and then somehow it gets even better from there!
I know this is years late and nobody will see this but Daniel Kash, the guy who plays Dr. Dresden who Miller shot at the end? He was the dropship copilot, Private Spunkmeyer in Aliens.
We see no matter how old the video so thank you for commenting
I was synced up with you all but couldn’t stop watching season 2. 😂
Same. Season 2 is unbelieveble.
Season 3 is even better 😁
@@AlanHoey86 Send help lol. I think I'll be starting that one tonight. :O
@@Sambubdo You better not or you won’t be getting any sleep for the next couple of days 😁
@@Sambubdo Season 3 is A M A Z I N G.
When I saw this notification I was like YES! I love this show SOOOOO MUCH! I am truly baffled why it doesn't get more recognition? Like Steven said " the writing the cast the special effects " it's truly a hidden treasure! Can't wait for the next reaction video!
All I have to say is. Y’all are geeking about this episode. I can’t wait to see you guys reaction to everything after this point. Honestly, I hope you guys start splitting up some of the episodes into two parts because there is so much great character moments/plot developments and great action I dont know how you guys are going to edit it down for us.
Please keep going with the show. It’s not the most popular show but I think it’s one of the best genre shows ever and I’m excited that you guys may help get the word out in this show.
You could tell while that guy was talking that Miller wasn't buying any of that shit. He just was waiting to see how Johnson would react. It was pretty plain to see what Miller thought of all that shit.
I forgot just how badass this episode was.
It's not like Thanos. The goal isn't to kill people. They're just collateral damage of the experiment.
Love it, Love it, Love it..... been waiting for a long time for you to react to The Expanse and this is why! That excitement from Steven, the 'O' face from nikki and just the pure enjoyment from watching you's see this for the first time.Just knew you both would love it, who wouldn't. Did you realise your both now Screaming Firehawks too :)
Cant wait for more, honestly, love you two.
I became a £5 patron in march (for my first for anyone) and realized you had the Expanse on the £10 tier, but yeah its worth! I'm becoming a patron for you both again.
Glad you’re liking it. This season is fucking nuts. There’s going to be an episode later on that is just going to wreck you (in a good way). Thanks for your reactions. My wife and I watch you guys a lot.
You guys are in for a treat. Season 3 is going to blow your mind. :)
I still remember my reaction to that season lol.
I see what you did there Robert! lol
Guys! I’m so glad that you are watching the Expanse. It only gets better!
It's so awesome to see you guys as hype as you are about this show. I know I keep saying this, but if you think this is already cranked way up, you should prepare yourselves and hang on tight. You are in for one hell of a ride. And I agree. The characters are the best part of it. They actually have character arcs with real development that makes sense for where they've come from and what happens to and around them.
Like you said, this is just getting started. I cannot wait.
I needed something to cheer myself up today, so I decided to re-watch this video again. I think this maybe the first time I've ever watched a reaction video more than once.
So dope that the two of them are so invested already and it is just warming up 🙂
...and Steven had it completely right for once and got his “aliens” too 😂
Not _Martian_ aliens, though. Proper extrasolar ones.
So cool to see how much you are enjoying it all, the story, the writing, characters, production values and actors.
Talking about actors, you should see all their amazing effort and contribution trying to revive and sell the show to another platform (thank you Amazon Prime) after the SyFy channel cancelled it at the end of season 3.
and the ride begins... you can't even imagine the peak the next seasons and this, god the expanses so good
4:13 Holden is a genetically modified Earther. (S1E7) He carries the genes of 8 parents so he is legally the child of all of them. IF YOU CAN AFFORD THAT, you can probably afford to get rid of any genetic "imperfections" (color blindness, lactose intolerence. Tayseks, sickle cell, etc., etc. etc.). Not super power enhanced, just less "imperfect". Wouldn't you do that for your child?
No. I wouldn't. Weird.
Humans are not supposed to be gods. Genetic engineering of humans scares me.
Eugenics wars
One of the many reasons i love this show, because bullets are actually working here.
Alex is space mom
The floating coffee cup is a beautiful example of relative motion. Holden leaves the cup still in mid-air, but after Alex maneuvers to free tumble towards the station the cup seems to tumble itself but it is just keeping its original position.
Love seeing you fall in love with the show like the rest of us. Now you can see why there was an unprecedented campaign to save the show when SyFy cancelled it. And can you believe it gets better yet?! Hold onto your seats, beltalowdas...
Diogo shows up out of nowhere. That was a hilarious exchange with Miller, the kid got so keyed up over Miller, he almost wound up puking himself..lol.
I'm proud of you Steven, you really catching on to alot👏🏽 I'll say that much.
The actions of the scientists in this episode always reminds me of the Jeff Goldblum character's quote in Jurassic Park..."Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should." ...and then some Tyrannosaurus Rex eats everybody.
I just reacted to this one on Tuesday! OMG it was so intense I thought Amos was going to die. It was tension for like 40 minutes!
Amos is way more layered than you think. There are scenes in future eps that really, subtly develope him as a character. You'll be surprised at the depth of the character. The actor worked closely with the writers of the books to portray him accurately.
Wes Chathom also worked with a psychiatrist to better understand Amos and why he makes the choices he does. He said he read the books and Amos is his favorite character.
I enjoyed Steven's enthusiasm for the show at the end.
Know it's a year later but.... The "mad scientist" Dresden is played by the same actor who played Spunkmeyer in Aliens. It was his debut role. The writers love Alien and there are easter eggs for it in first episodes.
As someone mentioned this is the first episode with Camina Drummer. This show does a fantastic job of showing strong female characters... and you are going to love Drummer.
i LOVE the expanse :D everything is so good! i hate that it doesn't get the recognition it deserves man :) i went to MCM london last year cosplaying Alex and only met 1 other expanse cosplayer while the authors where there!
This is why season 2 is still my favorite season, the pace is awesome and i feel like this is the season where you get the most valuable information on what's going on
I binged watched your reactions from the first season and I enjoyed all of it!
Chrisjen's outfits are everything! 🙌🙌🙌
we told you this show is fucking beautiful and each episode each season is gradually intense and crazy
If it is a fantastic cast that interests you then Fire Fly is a must watch.
You definitely should watch Firefly
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned, but Book 1 of "The Expanse" ends with Season 2, episodes 4 & 5. Those two episodes really should be watched back to back. I think it aired as a 2hr special. As intense as this episode was, buckle up, the ride just gets better and better.
Episodes 4 and 5 were unbelievable 😀
To add to what others have said about Gunnery Sergeant Draper, the "Gunny" is a special rank in the US Marine Corps, and apparently so in the MCRN. The Gunny is not an officer, but is widely recognized below and above in the chain of command as being the most savvy person in a combat situation. Everyone pays attention to what Gunny has to say.
You may have noticed the conflict between the two UN Navy admirals, with Admiral Souther arguing against escalating military conflict and Admiral Nguyen constantly wanting to heat things up.
I hadn't paid attention to before was that Avasalara sent Errinwright the tip about striking Deimos. She's no pacifist. You caught that right away.
If you go back and review the dialog between Colonel Fred Johnson and the Anderson Station protestors, it's clear (in hindsight) that Johnson isn't hearing what they're saying. Their responses were jammed.
This was the best space combat I've ever seen. One thing that made it enjoyable was knowing how hard Alex had trained to learn how to traverse close to the stealth ship without coming into range of its guns.
If you noticed, Miller had moved back and began watching Holden and Johnson instead of Dresden. He shot Dresden when he saw Holden and Johnson beginning to accept Dresden's offer.
Dresden may or may not be talking strictly about saving Earthers, Earth would wind up controlling it. We can figure that Mao is "Earth first," and Errinwright certainly is, and even Avasalara has said so more than once.
Hell Yeah, hello DRUMMER!!! One of my favorite characters!
You're my favourite reacters, just love watching these shows with you.
Just wait until season 4 when Amazon bought the show! This series is going to definitely go some places!
Currently just started season 4, this show just gets better and better
Really enjoying your reactions to the series for the first time. Having seen all the episodes and then seeing a fresh pair (or two pairs) of eyes on what happening in each episode, is wonderful to see. More reactions please what about 3 or 4 a week come on there's so much more to see, I can't wait to see what you both think of it all. Well done and keep them coming, please. 🤗🤗🤗😆😆😆
Yes, Steven, we knew. Aliens, but not like you thought. And welcome to realistic space battles.
Once again, another great reaction video guys. Thursdays & Sundays are my Doors & Corners.
"Gunny" is short for Gunnery Seargeant Roberta "Bobbie" Draper of the Martian Marine Corps. You will hopefully like Bobbie as she evolves. In the books, you are told that Bobbie is of Maori descent.
Love the way you guys were trying to figure out which one of the crew were secretly the bad guys.
"...without this work humanity will be left unarmed, ignorant, vulnerable to an enemy who has already fired a first shot"
Great reaction. Heads Up. Some folks are recommending that episodes 4 & 5 should be watched together, which might be difficult with your schedule.
Yup, a couple of new Screaming Fire Hawks!!
LOL
... That fool just got SPACED...
totes...
That reaction was priceless. :)
Speaking of cast, don't forget Drummer!
I'm glad Steven is so stimulated by the show it is a great and intelligent sci Fi ,and the plot and cast did such a great job. Nikkis face makes me laugh she like my hubby luv dis shit.
Been waiting for this episode for Steve to find out that he was right about aliens. The space combat is also ranked as one of the best scifi battles filmed. A good example where less is more ( as oppose to a fleet of ships fighting it out). So good.
Your faces during the battle between the Roci and the stealth ship was just what I expected. Were you guys even breathing while Amos was getting tossed around??
Miller saw that Fred Johnson was being tempted and decided to remove the temptation
I started this series about 3 weeks ago. I finished all 4 seasons a week later. I wish I watched it along with you two.
this show is going to keep on surprising you. enjoy the ride.
Hey guys...you know that face you make at @22:09? You’re gonna be doing that a lot during this show. 🤣
You said it: "Master Race". This is the same monster the Allies opened the doors on in Auschwitz and Mathausen and exactly the same argument. Many wish we'd had a Miller there to blast them all to hell instead of giving them the opportunity to excuse themselves for this shit. The depraved things they did in the name of science. Miller could see Dresden turning minds around right there and he acted. BTW the Mars word you are grasping for is Terraforming. Don't judge Bobbie yet. Like all our other characters (except Dresden), it's better not to rush to judgement.
Even better episodes ahead!!
I feel like everyone loves Amos but Holden is my favorite character idgaf
I love Holden, too.
He has the biggest heart
I wasn't too keen on Holden in S1 and 2. But his character develops so well, and by S4 Holden is dope AF.
I'm still primarily team MurderSnuggles.
People tend to shit on his character but being in charge in crazy situations is not a thankful job, you can't make right calls you can only try.
I don't love Amos. He's actually my least favorite from the Roci team.
Remember episodes 4 and 5 should be watched at the same time. You are building up to the book 1 finale.
Nick Kelly I think they won't mind waiting a week between 4 & 5 LOL.
Your reactions to this show are just awesome. My favourite show, movie, anything right now. IMO this is the 3rd big WTF episode (S1E8, S1E10, S2E2) of many to come. If I'm right May 13-14 is a day I'm looking forward to. Can't wait to see their reactions to all of it :)
ah drummer is already here :)
He was talking about humans being able to travel the galaxy and hibernate the whole trip without need of concern for protection. To be able to habitat on any planet in any atmosphere. Guess the guy who shot him has thing against God complex.
I scream like a fire hawk when a new react video comes out 😱
Dont worry only Diego's own stupidity can kill him.
Every time I see Miller shoot that guy I'm reminded that Thomas Jane once played The Punisher.
Camina Drummer ❤
Alex ❤️
I love her
ana iglesias I do love her too.
She can beat my Drum any day...LOL
" gunny" is a universal nickname for a gunnery sergeant. There are a lot of folks called Gunny.