Chopin: Sonata No.2 in B-flat Minor, Op.35 (Zimerman)

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  • The Piano Sonata No. 2 in B♭ minor, Op. 35, is a piano sonata in four movements by Polish composer Frédéric Chopin. Chopin completed the work while living in George Sand's manor in Nohant a year before it was published in 1840. The third movement of the Piano Sonata No. 2 is Chopin's famous funeral march which was composed at least two years before the remainder of the work. The Piano Sonata No. 2 carries allusions and reminiscences of music by J. S. Bach and by Ludwig van Beethoven; Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 12 also has a funeral march as its third movement. The work was not furnished with a dedication.
    0:00 - Mvt I Grave - Doppio movimento
    7:25 - Mvt II Scherzo
    14:37 - Mvt III Marche funèbre: Lento
    23:30 - Mvt IV Finale: Presto
    Performer: Krystian Zimerman, 1984 Salzburg Festival

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  • @surferriness
    @surferriness 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    17:17 that one kid with their CASIO watch

    • @Hqy22
      @Hqy22 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      dam, u have godly hearing

    • @aleksagrbusic7067
      @aleksagrbusic7067 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Naaaah thats some godly hearing

  • @user-gr6os2il3s
    @user-gr6os2il3s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It's amazing that such a gorgeous melody can be realized with just one piano.... and this is the reason that I like Chopin

  • @FrostDirt
    @FrostDirt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Such a shame that Zimerman was taken aback by negative press coverage that he abandoned his project on Szymanowski and Chopin Sonatas back in the 2010's. It would be a marvellous recording were it finished.

    • @fryderykchopin1381
      @fryderykchopin1381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where did you hear about the bad press?

    • @kuba550
      @kuba550 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What project? Can you say more about it?

    • @FrostDirt
      @FrostDirt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@kuba550 in 2010-2012 Zimerman was working on his series of recordings of works by Polish composers (Chopin, Szymanowski, and one undisclosed composer [Bacewicz, perhaps?]). But around that time, he was allegedly attacked by two Polish newspapers and such incident "poisoned the atmosphere" that Zimerman withdrew from the project.

    • @kuba550
      @kuba550 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FrostDirt thanks, didn't know that

    • @PeterFamiko-lw8ue
      @PeterFamiko-lw8ue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why did they attacked him?

  • @carlkulzer5982
    @carlkulzer5982 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Chopins music plumbs the depths of the soul. One of the great works played beautifully by Zimmerman. Thanks for making this available.

  • @ilovecats581
    @ilovecats581 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A great piece, very difficult but with a beautiful melody all thru it.. Zimmerman at his best....marvellous!!!.

  • @fredericauguste
    @fredericauguste 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Incredibly great sound quality. Thanks for sharing this great recording!

  • @szilike_10
    @szilike_10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So happy now we have a scored version of this, it gets taken down all the time.

  • @franciskurkdjian6728
    @franciskurkdjian6728 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love your videos! I hope you post more
    Looking forward to it!😍

  • @PatriziaPalmisani-ks8je
    @PatriziaPalmisani-ks8je 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SPETTACOLARE !!! MERAVIGLIA DELLE MERAVIGLIE ....GRANDE ZIMERMAN

  • @marshall62020
    @marshall62020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo!!!

  • @ImXR93
    @ImXR93 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chopin is The master of movement, 🔥🔥🌡️

  • @antoineroche2073
    @antoineroche2073 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible !!!

    • @bernardparret3191
      @bernardparret3191 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, incredibly brutal ! What's the point in breaking a keyboard to pieces ?

  • @KohyaSuechika1104
    @KohyaSuechika1104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible! Bravo! I hope we post more. Looking forward to it. 💚✨
    #Kohya Suechika #Music

  • @richardcarnes2834
    @richardcarnes2834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The repeat of the exposition in the first movement begins from the Grave, not m. 5. The double dots at “Doppio movimento” (an instruction that Zimerman ignores) are spurious - they were added by the editor of the first German edition.

  • @marksmith3947
    @marksmith3947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Because TH-cam doesn't have enough of Zimmerman playing Chopin 😂.

  • @dimitrissdrolias3568
    @dimitrissdrolias3568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Μaybe the best interpretation of this sonata ever! And live!

  • @novellmusicmedia6895
    @novellmusicmedia6895 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first time a recording makes sense

  • @benharmonics
    @benharmonics 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Your channel should be called ZimermanScores

  • @user-ie5gr1we2v
    @user-ie5gr1we2v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    上手ですね🐒🥺

  • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
    @ShaunakDesaiPiano 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Which came first? Chopin’s so-called Hades prelude (Op 28 No 16) or this sonata? Because the eight bars of both of the pieces’ main themes have an identical chord progression and identical rhythm in (respectively) the left and right hands. It’s why I feel that the Hades prelude would make a great alternative finale to the 2nd sonata.

    • @danissimo9852
      @danissimo9852 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is also some similarity with his prelude op 28 no 14 and 4th part of this sonata.

    • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
      @ShaunakDesaiPiano 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danissimo9852 yes, the E flat minor prelude that only lasts some forty seconds right?

  • @Bruce.-Wayne
    @Bruce.-Wayne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zimmerman sound great as always but i dont know much about him as far listening to his works....this Sonata has been a benchmark for many Great pianists....Horowizt and Arthur Rubinstein version of this Sonata are Legendary

  • @ThePainist
    @ThePainist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Very unpopular opinion but I think the first 2 movements of this sonata are a great example of how to write without inspiration. And it would make sense because this sonata was written around the funeral march (the march was composed about 2 years prior to the rest) i.e. on "order" with the rest.

    • @pablobear4241
      @pablobear4241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Maybe the playing is what makes you think this.
      Neuhaus said this piece was about a hero the birth of the hero is the first movement, the second his triumphs, the third the death, and the fourth is the wind blowing over his grave.
      KZ plays this like a Czerny etude

    • @ThePainist
      @ThePainist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pablobear4241 Lizst, in his book on Chopin, says his sonatas (and concerti) are more a work of effort than inspiration. Being Chopin, he naturally made these movements very well finished, but I'm saying that it's written like an artist drawing painting with technique rather than with creativity

    • @alainspiteri502
      @alainspiteri502 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      mvt 1 w: revolt against the death , 2 the hope , 3 funeral march 4 out of our planet , somewhere in the universe . This first sonata in the world of piano was written ten years before the death of Frederick ( Baleares ) ; it's what j think when j listen this colossal sonata , the first sonata in the history of the piano , more important than Lizst Sonata by expression in front the death : Philosophy sonata j don't known an other sonata for make a comparison .

    • @pablobear4241
      @pablobear4241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alainspiteri502 very nice, I like it

    • @briansunday7099
      @briansunday7099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Personally, I always found the last movement brilliant but weak, in the sense that seems out of step with the rest of the movements. It’s not my favourite - that, for me, would be the third.

  • @Brad4Ellis
    @Brad4Ellis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll have to check out other recordings of this piece. Is the final movement usually played so fast? Without the notation, I would be completely disoriented in the blizzard of notes. Even WITH notation, I find it difficult to place myself within the beat, and get a coherent sense of harmonic rhythm.

    • @MrHullU
      @MrHullU  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think with the 4th movement, it's not really about the beat or harmonic structure/rhythm, but instead a sound that describes the image of the piece. To me, it sounds like the howling winds of a graveyard ;)

    • @Egbert_Souse
      @Egbert_Souse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was written for unequal temperment as opposed to equal temperment used since the mid to late 19th century. There's an interesting comparison of the last 2 mvmts played both ways. Check it out. To me it was revelatory with the last mvmt finally making sense. Here's the you tube link: th-cam.com/video/hgA1-I5MfNY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hUw35a157DmhnUYk

  • @OuaghlaniAlaa
    @OuaghlaniAlaa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:43 Zimerman totally neglects the dynamics

    • @MrHullU
      @MrHullU  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The dynamics in some editions are different in this area. I suspect Zimerman used the Paderewski edition because it has a crescendo marking instead of piano and decresendo.

    • @WEEBLLOM
      @WEEBLLOM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Based

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:07

  • @user-tl1wt7mp8e
    @user-tl1wt7mp8e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    05:06

  • @benjaminravail5028
    @benjaminravail5028 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    such a shame that most of the audience was just there to say "I was at that concert".......without appreciating the pure soud and technic and profound investment Zimerman put in his rendition...
    Poor world we're living in that's for sure

    • @ilovecats581
      @ilovecats581 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How do you know that??

    • @benjaminravail5028
      @benjaminravail5028 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ilovecats581 unfortunately we live in a world of « showing » don’t need any proof

    • @WEEBLLOM
      @WEEBLLOM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What?

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think you're complaining about the coughs and I understand that.

    • @benjaminravail5028
      @benjaminravail5028 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ilovecats581 because I happen to experience it unfortunately…..

  • @benzandpour
    @benzandpour 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    FUNERAL MARCH at 15:00

  • @eel9
    @eel9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's great!! Fantastic!! Can you do Michelangi ?? it's even better 😅😆

    • @MrHullU
      @MrHullU  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you mean Michelangeli? He has multiple versions posted on youtube. The one he performed in London 59 has to be my favorite ;D Theres something about the performance that creates a story, almost spooky-like. To me, it really reminds me of death, the sadness, and a funeral!

  • @alainspiteri502
    @alainspiteri502 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me 1) Rachmaninov ( 1930 original not piano-roll ) also Aschkenazy , true history of the man in front of the death .

    • @MrHullU
      @MrHullU  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rachmaninoffs recording of chopin sonata 2 is amazing, the raging 3rd movement and the voicings of the 4th movement. Absolute gold recording of a great pianist!

  • @PeterFamiko-lw8ue
    @PeterFamiko-lw8ue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chopin should write this in A minor.
    Five b is too much for reading

    • @7HPDH
      @7HPDH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could have it transposed by MuseScore

    • @Bruce.-Wayne
      @Bruce.-Wayne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I prefer 5 Bs than 5 #s....😅