Did you start on a 1000cc bike? Did you commit die? Do you think you're an amazing rider? Is your ego big? Are you a big man? Does dad love you now? He can't hurt you. He can't hear you. Only God can judge you. No ragrats.
Had a low power 600 put 80k miles on that... Got a 96in Harley dyna put 78k miles on that... Got a 96in Harley tourer put 150k miles on that... Still scared of the R1. Want one though. Silly to think you can handle one without real training.
@Yammie Noob I’m new to the channel and I am going to be a new rider any advice I’m in Az little confused on what I should get brand etc etc you seem extremely knowledgeable please I am excited to ride but a little apprehensive anything helps thanks 🙏
No rugrets...not one letter! 🅰️👏😆 Proud owner of a 07 Yam R1 ♥ only 1%of riders can get rid of the Chicken strips and hold back from rolling up on dank nooners at every light.Thanks Pappa Yam's 🍠 🏍
@@mc22798 if you can... Get a (used) dirt bike to really understand shifting and nailing down controls, they are cheap and you don't care if you drop it. Then get a street bike... That fits what you need it to do. Brand doesn't really matter, just make sure you're not scared of the power. Nothing makes a bad time worse like doing something new and being scared.
100% agree. I have a 2017 ZX10R and it’s my second bike. Before that I had an 08 ninja 650r for 5 years and I learned everything On that 650 and it was awesome. I hopped back on my 650 after a year on my ZX10R and it felt super slow but I remember when I first got it was like riding lightning and it was so satisfying to grow with that bike and be able to eventually use that bike to its fullest. I can’t Imagine starting on my liter bike that goes 0-100 mph in first gear
My first bike was a Cbr 1000 and have had this bike for years. Not one accident or drop. For me it was maturity, patience and self control with a great deal of awareness. It can be done with the right mindset
yep me too, have had a 2015 R1 as my first and only bike for the past 2 years, no drops, no accidents. Did this at 33 years old, maturity helps. If you're in your early to mid 20's i wouldn't go there. Now I'm keen to get a 600 to get experience on something more nimble.
Yeah, they just come with a little bit of character. Which is touch up paint and Chinese ebay parts to replace the broken oem ones. But all can be fixed 👌
My first sport bike is a ZX10R lol. It's not to bad because I'm a bigger guy and honestly the bike is very forgiving, I think it boils down to self control and responsibly
Wait: He’s trying to convince his mostly beginner audience to not ride a liter bike as first motorocycle, whilst simultaneously giving one away to same audience 😂
One of the concerns i have is centered around affordability. Like, i can't afford to buy bike after bike. I think some of us new riders feel like if I buy the 1000, I won't have to buy 3 different bikes going from a R3 to R6 to R1....
This is exactly my concern. I dont come from money, I will be able to buy one bike and won't be able to get another one for another probably 4 years. And I have to buy a car shortly after I get a bike. That's just a lot of money
When I did my motorcycle course the instructor said the same thing. He said he had been teaching course for 10 years and witnessed 3 people finish the course, hop on a 1000cc bike and die within a week. 1 guy died the same day he finished the course; said the kids family came to the last course day with a "surprise" r1 present and the kid died that day. That story always stuck with me.
@@kegonpegs2833 I have a 1983 GS750. Inline 4, 16 valve, dual overhead cams. 80 horsepower. Plus I have an aftermarket 4-1 Vance and Hines exhaust on it, and it sounds meaner than most the sport bikes on the road. I love it. The best part? It was $1,400 with 8,600 miles on it.
@@MitchJohnson0110 that's a good deal dude. Mine is the 1980 xj650 IL 4 DOHC as well. Found it for 600$ with alot of "learning possibilities" attached. My mechanic had the GS and said he always dug the era 👍
I am going to be totally honest. I went to a bike shop today and they were completely out of 600’s which is what I really have been looking at for my first bike. And I started to talk to a gentleman that worked there who showed me the crb 1000rr and he told me all about the “low power mode” and how I could “learn that way and change modes once I was more comfortable.” Which in my mind I totally believe I have the maturity to not switch into another mode until I was comfortable. Then I found this video and it has me second guessing if that bike is a good move. I appreciate your insight and opinion based on your years of experience. It gave me a lot to think about and you may have very well talked me out of making that move.
@@robertduncan8400 gotcha thanks for the reply. Going to a couple shops tomorrow to look at a ninja 650 or an r7 honestly not sure what I’ll end up liking. Just excited to get on my first bike even though I’ve been on dirt bikes my whole life already 😂
@@robertduncan8400 hey man, 5 months later, how's it been starting on a 600? I'm looking at getting my first bike and I'm wanting an r6 or a zx6r? What are your recommendations honestly? Has it been a huge challenge? Something you regret? I'm about 80% sure I'm going to pick up a zx6r
I bought a 2001 R1 recently. It is my first bike. Bought it more for the challenge of making it run again after a 3 year rest. Got it super cheap and figured the resale value could buy something I really would like to start with. I just like making engines run that haven't in a while. It's satisfying especially if it sounds good when it fires up for the first time.
@Ramanpreet Mann unfortunately I'm still dealing with paperwork so haven't even started on it yet. It's just been sitting at my house now but at least it's in the garage and not outside like before. If it terrifies you then sell and buy something that is still scary but allot smaller in displacement and more forgiving of a new rider. If your not at least a little scared of it you will ride it beyond the bikes capability and that's not safe either
I started riding July 2019 on a Honda cbr 500r. Fast forward to April 2020 I decided to upgrade to a Yamaha r6 and I gotta say, I regret upgrading so quickly. Yes the r6 is amazing and I love the bike but it hinders my progression to becoming a better rider because I’m still scared of it. It’s August now and I’ve put about 5000km on the r6 yet I feel like I’d be faster around a track on the cbr500r than the r6. When I was looking for my upgrade, I considered a litre bike and how big of a fool I was to think it was a good idea. Another thing too, I rented a bmw s1000rr when I was on vacation and it was BORING. It’s got so much power that in city, id be using only 2 gears and highway riding id use 4 gears. There’s also that saying which I now believe is true, it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow. I hope my experience is helpful and thanks yammie for talking facts
I bought a cbr500r as well as my first bike basically and i immediately wanted more power. Id complain and complain about it but at the same time everything else was so fun about it. And then you realize....top speed is only in a straight line, really. Why am i complaining about something that is speedy ENOUGH that im not getting arrested for being a loony on or racking up tickets? Corners! Corners are the fun spots! Its about maintaining speed and leaning more. Thats what i needed to focus on. And then that bike was great! Ive had it like a year and a half now but came to realize that having no storage space sucks sucks SUCKS on a bike. Bought a Versys 650 with all the bags to pair with it. 😆
This is my third year on my 2016 500R and even now I'm still learning and honing my skills on it. As much as I'm dying to move up to a "bigger" bike with more punch, I do understand that my 500R still has plenty enough to teach me in getting my basic skills down and being a better rider. It's a great bike and glad I got it as my first ride and glad to still have it. I'm eying up Aprilia's new 660 platform as my next potential upgrade along with a few other bikes, but all of them fall within the 75hp-100hp range. Honestly, the only real "big" bike I would truly like to own one day is either a Goldwing or a K1600, in addition to a smaller more everyday useable bike. That would be my dream setup.
Gofr5 yeah those new aprilia 660s are looking goooood. For sure though, you dont need any more than 100hp for the road. And even just a 20hp bump up is quite noticeable! Ive learned i can’t just look at hp figures to find that perfect bike. Its so much more complicated than that haha. Also, i recently saw a chocolate brown Goldwing and it was amazing looking. It didn’t have the gigantic back seat-rest/tailbag and it looked so rideable. So un-intimidating for such a large bike.
@@Gofr5 Look into the VTX 1800 as well. More power than you need, but very docile and civilized, when riding like a reasonable adult. Dad had issues with the weight, 720 pounds dry, and went to a Vulcan 1600 Classic, offering me his X. It's like a Goldwing, with less bulk, but just as capable as.a.tourer.
I have to say that liter bikes in general just aren't that much fun to ride. I have 7 bikes and don't get me wrong, I love the power of liter bikes. The problem is they are so heavy. You can say they are nimble but they are just nimble for their size. My most fun bike is the R3 and my smallest. It could use more speed and power, granted. But when I'm on the twisties I don't even notice the lack of power. It's pure fun and capable.
You are so right I can't stand the sports bikes with there clip on handlebars I have a ktm 390 duke and I love it light nimble enough power for here in the uk where the speed limit is 70 mph on the motorway which is always packed so you cant go fast anyway.
@@MrRainbowSprinkles Haven't ridden on one. Hell, right now I can't find one. I'd love to try test ride one. Was trying to buy a TST race kit for the R3 to squeeze a little more out of it but they are sold out for now. But yeah, if America get's an R4 3 cylinder I will be buying one for sure. If not I'll probably pull the trigger on a Ninja 400 (order one). I'm really loving low displacement bikes these days.
Being prob the smartest motorcycle video I have seen in a long while, for some reason people will still ignore the hard earned wisdom that only comes with repair bills, medical bills, years and miles of seat time, scares, near misses, and extremely abused underwear and jump on the craziest engine with a seat their budget will allow. I luckily live close to lots of off road opportunities and I often try to steer people looking to learn the joy of riding to gaining some insight there if at all reasonable to do so. I cut my teeth off road and I think without question it can ease the transition and shorten the learning curve to the highway. Its not suitable for everyone or every situation but its another pathway to consider if learning and growing is indeed the goal to a lifetime on two wheels. (Even if we try to cheat and reduce that to one wheel occasionally ;)
Last August, talked to a guy at one of the places bikers go to hit some twisty roads in the area. Hockley general store. He was excited. Passed his weekend MSF course the prior weekend and ordered his gixxer 1000, which he was proudly showing off. Nice bike. June, 2020, saw the same guy at the gathering spot at Forks on the same bike, with the telltale signs of being dropped. Scratched back of the mirror, bar ends scratched, dings on the fairings, you know the signs. Talk to him and he was less excited with the bike. He turned it on, and the odometer was at just under 1000km. Yes, about 600 miles in what would be about 5 riding months up here. Last week, saw him at a local Timmy's near Hockley, and he was excited again, to show off his new bike. A new Ninja 400. He bought it new first week of July. Bike has just over 1100km on it in 4 weeks. He said he's not getting rid of this bike. I laughed. He will buy another litre bike again, but not for a long time I suspect. He was still eyeing the RSV4 a few spots over. The point is, when you're scared of something, you will avoid it. The bike scared him so he didn't ride it. He only rode it because he spent so much on it he felt he had to ride it so he'd go out for a few hours, once a month or so. Until he just said fuck it, and traded it in. Took a hit on it, but he didn't care. He's riding all of the time now. Any fool can twist the throttle on the highway. The curves and corners and parking lots are the things that will get you. Throttle control. Learn it, live it, love it and you will ride for a long time. Don't learn it properly, and your riding days are numbers.
Oh I love going out to the forks. One of the few places I make way out to when I visit the folks back in Toronto. Only ever been there 2 or 3 times though. Never stopped to hang out there though, not that there's any real hanging out going on right now with all the social distancing, at least from what I saw on my last run there back in July. Good to hear the fella is enjoying himself more now on a more appropriate bike.
Perfect example. I have a ninja 400 and I’m in a Facebook group; you’d be surprised at the amount of people that are selling their liter bikes to move down to 400s
"I'll keep it in low power mode till I get used to it then out it big boy mode." We both know that's bull crap. You can't even beat the temptation of wanting to get a 1000cc bike instead of a smaller bike.
I literally did that with my cbr1000rr, kept it in the lowest setting until I was 100 percent comfortable with the bike which was the first 1500 miles, though it wasn't my first bike
@@ElementalMax-ut2fq I went from a 300, to a triumph Daytona 675 then to my cbr1000rr, I found it easy enough as long as you know how to ride I would say you can do it
@@ElementalMax-ut2fq There is a noticeable lack of power in mode 3 for my cbr1000rr which is the low power mode, the throttle is not as twitchy so if you've been riding a 300 for a while and want a 1000 I would say go for it but I will warn you, you've gotta show restraint with a 1000 I can't tell you how stupid fast these things are or how much I just want to open her up fully around town lol
I just bought an r6 as my first bike a couple weeks ago. I’m a 19 y old guy coming from a cammed and tuned scat pack. I like speed. I’ve already been totally blown away by the power of the r6 and nearly laughed myself to death with giddiness. It may be my ego, but I honestly think I could handle an r1. I’ve had zero close calls, I’ve given the r6 all it has in a straight line, I’m not stupid on backroads, I apex all my turns and I go way below the speed of what I know the bike can handle, and I’m conservative with the throttle when I should be. I’m going to listen to you though, and spend some more time learning on my r6 before the devil on my shoulder tells me to make the big jump. I know I don’t need it, but I want it. The thrill is addicting and I already want more! Thanks for preaching reason, you might have just saved my life 😂
I'm gonna play devils advocate on this one. My first bike happened to be a 1000 based purely on availability and a really really good deal at the time. True they are not anywhere near as forgiving as more well known beginner bikes, but at the end of the day that shouldn't matter as much as the rider practicing and understanding basic things about riding ANY motorcycle. Just be responsible and take your time learning new things and getting used to whatever bike you're on. It can be done. And it doesn't have to be a super difficult and dangerous experience. At the end of the day, you still control the throttle and steering. I think of it kind of like learning to shoot firearms. But with firearms there's no real equivalent to bikes as far as like a 300 vs a 900 or 1000. With guns literally every one of them can kill you instantly just as easy as the next if you're irresponsible with it. And 99% of people who try it have no problem when leaning firearms. I think there's a stigma when it comes to the MIGHTY 1000! And I know everyone is different, but if you're chill with your ego and are honestly interested in learning something, or anything else considered very dangerous really, and take your time and try to really understand what's happening, and be honest with yourself about the risk, in a safe environment, you'll be just fine. And in the case of motorcycles (for me) it turned out to be a great experience because there's no "building up" to a higher cc bike etc. It's just what I knew from the get go which made most other bikes practically cake to learn and ride. Easier on the mind as well with all the big bike stigma most have. I think many people are so dramatic about it because hearsay kind of trains your mind to be that way, like with many motorcycle myths passed through tribal knowledge. It's really honestly no big deal. Use your brain and don't push your limits right off the bat as with anything dangerous.
@Aaron Kruger I agree with most of that, I'm just saying it's not near as big a deal as people make it out to be, and really I think its just more exciting for people to talk about the mighty 1000 in such an overly hyped up way. And the gun thing, what I'm saying is it doesn't matter who can handle what caliber any better while being fired. The same small amount of negligence in ANY caliber firearm regardless of who can handle it better during firing can still be 100% as deadly. The consequences can and most likely will be exactly as bad and life altering/deadly. But for 99% of the people that train in ALL different calibers, this doesn't happen. And that's my analogy to motorcycles. It doesn't have to be some big scary thing that nobody should ever try. It is dangerous and you should know what you are getting yourself into and do it safely just like with firearms. People tend to leave out that so many people also wreck smaller engine bikes as well and in between. It's not the bike. If you aren't "ready" for the GOD ALMIGHTY 1000, then really you aren't ready for a 300 either. Another thought, a yamaha r3 top speed is 110mph. I don't see the difference in bodily injury between that and 160 on a motorcycle as very significant. To me it's like jumping off a really tall bridge Onto concrete vs jumping off sears tower onto concrete. The true differences that matter between the bikes when it comes to safety are inerrant in the fact that they are already motorcycles. Everything important that must be learned is present in every size engine bike. Yeah you can get to deadly speeds in a shorter amount of time on a 1000, but depending on the accident, the deadly speed could've been just 20mph. It's just not the big scary monster people make it out to be is all my point really is. It gets over hyped. In experience and knowing a couple other people who started out with large cc bikes, it's really no big deal as much as it is fun to hype about. What I will say tho is when you start to get into really fast "superbikes" and such for the streets, it is a little more pointless to have so much performance that you can't ring out on the street. But just like with crazy muscle cars and "racecars for the street" like many lambos and Ferraris, you'll still see them riding around regular roads just fine. Yes you see accidents with those but you also see plenty of accidents with regular cars as well. And most people driving these crazy cars on the street have no racing experience. And many rich people start out with real crazy cars like this and are perfectly fine. It's not the car/bike, it's the driver. When you first learn to drive a regular car, the first thing you do isn't to push full gas etc. Most people don't put pedal to the metal in their first beater. In first lessen etc. Why would you do that on a motorcycle? Just so many things wrong with the stigma of starting on a 1000. Of course the consequences become greater faster on a 1000, but if that will even come into play for you, then you should work that out before ever climbing onto ANY street bike.
@Aaron Kruger i agree. But I think either way, you should be taught that. And that being the case, it wouldn't matter what size engine you have if you're taught to be responsible with that throttle from the beginning. If the first thing you're gonna do is grab a handful of throttle, get off the bike period lol. But yeah if you don't know literally anything about the bike and decide to buy one and get right on it anyway I suppose it would be good for your new bike to be something less powerful, but really power to weight on most bikes makes most of them way faster than your average vehicle to begin with. So if you put yourself in that situation on any bike you're gonna have a bad day
I agree starting on one is suicide. With 350k miles on your belt I think you'll be fine. I got my R1 yesterday after less than 2.5k miles on the saddle and 5 weeks after getting my license lol.
Never understood these types of videos. Myself and plenty of my friends started on liters. They are fast, however, they aren't these big bad monsters you have to fear. You can die on a 600.
OneK must be the prerogative of the chosen ones. Otherwise, they won’t shine from the Raider mass. I do not underestimate, big bike, small mistake, big mess. I don’t like the besserwisser, this video wasn’t instructive. said 100 times, you don’t want this. Wrong, this is what you want.
Euro Bro here, startet on a Street Scrambler 900, but it only has 65 HP unrestricted and I had to have it restricted to 42 HP for beginning with it. Absolutely love that the bike will grow with me when I can open her up. There are liter bikes you can ride as a beginner, just not sport bikes.
I ride a 1200 Virago/Viagra as a "learner"(dirt cheap), and still the Honda CB500 goes like an untamed beast compared to the sluggish chromed horse. When they are referring to 600's or 1000's/litre bike, they are referring to the sport bike segment. It all depends on the style, the bike and the intended purpose (I wouldn't be scared to go for a 1250GSA as a beginner bike, but I am cheap so going for the V-Strom 650XT)
If someone did decide to get a Litre Bike as a beginner, how many horsepwer would you consider "too much" for a beginner? Maybe the R1250 is the limit? I feel like the S1000XR is too much.
You're absolutely right on this. I guarantee that a good rider on an R3 could take an average rider on an R1 on a twisty road. It's not the bike, it's the rider. Take the time to learn.
My favorite is the guy on the liter bikes that rush to get in front of me on Ortega highway only to get passed by me on my bolt as soon as the turns start because they can't turn due to lack of experience
I took a break from YammieBoob after his noob ego-driven accident into that Porsche. It seems like he's gotten a bit more mature since then. I will admit I'm impressed at this video. Very true points. I rode a Ninja 250 for 2 years before I ever got on an R6. It's obvious when you come across a rider on a big bike that can't handle it.
I actually have been asked by friends about this, you can definitely have a 1000cc as a first bike but you SHOULDN'T, you won't learn any skillset besides being scared shitless or crashing. For what I've experienced, this question mostly comes from young people that want to rush into something big, don't do it, there's nothing wrong with starting on a smaller bike, you'll learn and get used to it very fast, you WILL get a faster bike eventually, don't rush anything. I started on a 125 and stuck with it for 2 years, tried my cousin's 2004 GSXR 1000 after that and even with 2 years of experience I didn't feel ready physically or mentally, I was scared like hell knowing a small twist of the throttle would send me flying, ended up buying a 600, and I love it and don't have any plans to trade it for a 1000 anytime soon, it's pointless for me. Anyways just don't feel like you need to be faster or cooler than others, live your life slowly and fully, start small, progression is key for everything.
U should be scared of it ! U need to Respect the machine be cause it WILL KILL U if u o not. Baby the bike until u r ready & always ride like u have nothing to prove, preferably solo!!!
I've learned everything I know on my Liter, my first bike and I love it. She's a 2014 cb1000r, I've owned her for about half a year and drive her whenever I can. I crashed her last week and not due to any power dilemma, I just didn't see a curve in the middle of the night. I would buy my 1000 a million times over again
one thing people don’t mention is too often is how much torque you’ll feel with even the slightest wrist twitch with such a powerful bike. also part of learning is learning the clutch and on such a powerful bike if you’re just going between 1st and 2nd to get up to 60mph you don’t really get to learn about the bike
Hey Yam, earlier this year in February I bought an R1 at a bitchin price at a harley dealership I work at. I was 18 and it was my first bike and you described my thought process on the whole thing perfectly. Good price, start on low power mode and all that jazz. Going from harleys all day to the R1 was a HUGE step but I managed to make it work. I got all low speed maneuvers down and got comfortable on the bike firs for months before I let the devil on my shoulder unleash almost all the bike has to offer. I know I have a lot to learn still so I don’t push my limits and I know the 200hp between my legs can take over if I’m not careful. Anyways yeah my purchase could be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever done but damn I’m the happiest I’ve ever been with it. EDIT: I have years of experience riding this just happens to be my first bike lol and I never let my ego get the best of me on this thing. People wanna race all the time and I let them have it. My ego isn’t worth my life so I take like easy w it.
I learned to ride on a CB 300 and went into a 636 after one season. I think the biggest issue for new riders is getting used to the power/learning how to control it during low/high speed emergency maneuvers. On a 250 or a 400 it is much more forgiving. If you panic and gas the throttle on a 600, you'll wheelie right into the car in front of you. Just practice a lot on back roads or empty parking lots and get your confidence up. Riding fast in a straight line doesn't matter if you can't control the bike and save yourself from a bad situation.
Ha yummy really love the advice you gave My very first bike was a Yamaha 650 special air cooled twin very tame bike Sold it to billed a race car. Then I got a fz07 boy did it give me a surprise. Rode it for about 2 years and guess what after watching your videos I went out and bought an R3 with this little R3 I’m having such a good time and I figure it out just how much I didn’t know about right now I’m still perfecting the craft watching your videos. Thanks much keep going bro. Oh by the way, I’m still racing shifter carts probably the fastest thing on four wheels in a corner.
This is completely correct and also psychologically utterly unhelpful: the more you tell beginners to not get a 1000cc superbike because it's too difficult to handle as a first bike, the more they will do exactly that, because you're setting it as a challenge and they'll want to prove themselves capable of meeting it. “We choose to ride a 1000cc superbike and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.” (← is what they think). If you truly wish to dissuade beginners from getting this sort of bike, you have to make it sound uncool, not difficult. But then maybe stop giving them away.
*I recently picked up a 2019 CBR 1000RR for sale of almost HALF of its retail value with only 300 miles on it, some 18 year old kids parents bought it for him, he rode it a few times , the dude was like 5’6 and 100 pounds he definitely made the right choice by letting it go but I came up big time* 😂
@@ricky_ph9774 I don't think hp is really a great measure of how enjoyable a bike is. I can tell you that 50 hp around town on a CRF450R is more than enough power. Forget about power. Take the bike for a test ride, if it gets your blood flowing then it's a good bike.
@@bandobandit353 i highly agree. Im eyeing 400cc range, enough highway legal here Waiting for Swedish svartpilen 401 as swiss-army bike (freeway, street and occasional light offroading) (Compared to 'carbs, The Challenge with newer bikes with FI With multiple sensors (reliability?) and program can be buggy-prone - leading to erratic bike 'behaviour' (worse> bike stalling)
Japanese bike reputation for reliability is no question, esp the likes of honda If there will be 400cc yamaha xsr, thats should be enough for my need😁 (currently they have xsr700 (680cc - too much for 1st bigbike) and xsr155cc (too low)
Just put a deposit on a 2020 Honda rebel S - no regrets yet! Hoping it will be entertaining enough that I don’t get bored but also not going to kill me. Thank you for putting sense into new riders!
As a beginner myself, this is invaluable. My wife whose owned 1000cc bikes has told me this from day 1, same as my father. I came into the sport thinking I needed to play “catch up.” Humbling!
All very valid points. My first bike was a ZX6R, and not only that but I discovered after the fact it was souped, the point being even a 600 can be far too much. I'm fortunate that I didn't kill myself on that thing. Many times that thing scared the ever-living crap out of me. Now I ride an 1100, but its a philosophically different bike as it's a vintage metric cruiser...torque for days but forgiving, in stark contrast to the ZX6R that was like a bipolar puma, just waiting for you to drop your guard to remind you that it's a wild animal with an intermittent desire to kill you. Listen to Papa Yam and don't be an idiot by buying a racing meat grinder for your first bike.
The ergos are a huge deal too. Low speed manoeuvres are typically something that beginners need to work on, and having the bars so low makes it much harder to do stuff like tight turns and U-turns. And then if you get unbalanced and grab a handful, you know what happens next.
I got a 1000cc as my first, it’s been loads of fun! The fear is good, helps you respect the motorcycle and minimize on mistakes I have a 03 rsv 1000, goes on full power all the time, I just had to learn great throttle and clutch control, When I first sat on it and rode through the parking lot, I felt like selling it, hard af to maneuver, the only thing I’d maneuvered on 2 wheels was a bicycle, Learnt everything about motorcycles on TH-cam (shifting etc) I have no regrets that I started on 1000cc, glad I got to save up on money from buying 250cc then upgrading bit by bit If you’re safe, responsible, and know what you have to do, you could learn it I’m a relatively quick learner though, it’s been 2 weeks but I can ride in the street safely with traffic, and obey the speed limits, I just ride within my limits 😊
I hear the same about tractors as well...advice is still wrong. I have a 1000 cc motorcycle (older) and ride my Z400 more often. My tractor was the biggest I could fit into a specific location on my property and have yet to find something I want it to do that it can't do...it just does some of them slower.
2 weeks after buying my first bike, I bought a ZX10R. Rode it for a year and over 10k miles. Looking for more comfort, I bought a gsxs1000 and rode that a year and almost 10k miles. Now, I have a modded Zx14r and almost 10k miles. I’ve had a ton of fun riding. 200mph, no problem. I wish I had purchased the Zx14r as my first bike.
i started on a 1046cc kawasaki, 10,000 miles later im still here. its been nothing but fun. country driving no highways useing common sense, knowing your limitations. i dont regret it at all.
1000ccs "low power" mode is STILL "TOO MUCH power" mode for beginners and "first voyage" squids. People don't seem to understand that if you BLINK on 200HP, you're splattered on the back of a truck, or over 100ft of asphalt...
Toby Silva as a European boi myself (with the whole A1, A2 and A motorcycle license story and all) it amazes me that there is no restriction in the U.S for beginner riders. Once you have the MSF course in your pocket, you’re on your own. It’s scary in my opinion
IMTHEDARKNIGHT - I can agree with the last part of your statement, it’s not up to the government to tell you what to do and what not to. But think of it this way (and I am sure whichever MSF Course management can agree with me), just an example: Let’s say the American government puts restrictions on motorcycle licenses for beginners, you pay for the MSF, get your restricted license, you buy a “low” powered bike and HAVE to ride for (let’s say) at least a year and then do an advanced riding course to undo the restriction, which you’ll have to pay for too. You sell your current bike and buy a new bigger bike. It’d be a bigger cashflow for both the US government (taxes and all) and the courses’ managements (generally bigger incomes).
@@danrib4048 Many european countries (and I think you are from the same one as me) do have unrestricted A direct access. I'm taking it right now, exam next wednesday. And to me, it doesn't really make a difference that you can take it after you are 25 - sure, you have a bit more road knowledge and less hormones. I have defensive driving course, drove ambulances for a few years. But I was still scared shitless taking classes on a 280Kg 750cc supersport or whatever from the 90s, riding 1st gear all class long, even in highways, and hoping I didn't die (previous classes were a CB500 which was just fun to play with). I was so nervous I might accelerate too much doing figure 8 that my gloves got soaking wet and my fingers got bruised. Luckily, two other guys crashed the damned bike into oblivion and now we got a nice new amazing Z650. Nakeds are the best, mild mannered, light, to learn in. My point is that next thursday, if I pass my exam, I could also buy an R1 and kill myself the same day going 300km/h. Our system just makes it that I must be older than 25 to do so. But I bought a sweet slow NC700x as first bike, safe choice.
Soraya Imperial as far as I know and as far as I have researched, here in Luxembourg no matter what age you have, the A2 is required for a minimum of 3 months and a maximum of 2 years before doing a “test” and getting the A license. I don’t necessarily agree with this but I do get it from a safety standpoint (Either way I have no choice, soooo... yeah) The thing is people are more mature with 25 than with 17/18 years old (at least I’d like to hope so) so they are a bit more aware of what they have in their hands. Also, good luck for next Wednesday, I hope you succeed in getting your license! I have to wait until next year because of the virus
Thats how I did it. My first bike, that I learned to ride on, was a 2008 CBR 1000RR Edit: I crashed it, got an S1000, crashed that too, got a ninja 650, happy with it.
A week doesn’t go by that I tell customers this!! A young kid comes I and ask “where is the 1000’s, busa’s, or 1400’s?” I’ve been riding well over 20 years and had all kinda bikes, but never seen the need for the liter bikes. Most of my riding now is trackdays and I’m twisting the throttle on a 600 that I freaking love!! Two thumbs up on the video!!
My first bike was a 1043cc Z1000, I had never ridden a motorcycle in my life other than the 2 hours on an R3 in the MSF course. It didn't have power modes. It had 135HP/82Ftlbs at the wheel. It was perfectly fine. I would NEVER tell somebody to get a 1K superbike or even a 600 supersport as their first motorcycle. But a large cc naked? Absolutely, it truly isn't hard to be responsible on the throttle if you're not a moron.
No Yammie we shouldn't have a tier license system, because freedom is the MOST important thing here, NOT safety. That being said I started riding on dirt bikes, so I felt confident starting on an 1100 Suzuki... And I have had no issues over the past few years. Don't try to assume you know what is best for everyone, yes the inexperienced should start slow, but that's NO reason for you to say we should be restricted, that's exactly why we LEFT!
You appear not to understand the argument for tiers. Tiers limit the individual’s freedom to endanger the lives of others. And tiers support everyone’s right to use the public highways in confidence that other users are competent drivers of their chosen vehicle.
My neighbor just bought a 1100cc bike as his first.. he’s only 26.. and all I can say is I’m keeping him in my prayers after watching you romp it in big boy mode.
I was 5'10" 175 lbs. and 17 when I started on a 2007 Suzuki GSX1000R back in 2011. My dad went on many rides with me to make sure he felt OK that I wasn't going to kill myself. My first ride I topped out at a whopping 21(YES 21) MPH. I laid it down due to cold tires leaning too far out of a gas station after years of riding showing off to a girl. It was great for me I believe because I started on a bike I had a great deal of respect for. I feel confident in riding anything.
Dude remember the first Hellcat ever sold got wrapped around a guardrail in Colorado!? I think it was GreenGo and only lasted 45 minutes after leaving dealership.
Yep, my first car (mustang gt) at sixteen and my first street bike cbr900rr at 19 ..crashed them both (without serious injury thankfully) with in just a few weeks of having them...young and dumb! I’m 46 now and have a 650 V-Strom...maturity I guess...lol
i got a 2014 cbr650f as my first bike. never sat on one before i got it, rode 40miles home just fine. put on 6k miles since. twist of the wrist LITERALLY got me home.
@@dylanjchess 100hp on a bike is the sweet spot imho. anything sub 60 and it is a little too tame anything above 115 and you better have nannies or it can be too much. I remember just twisting the throttle a little too much on my 919 just coming around a corner and lifting the front end before I straightened out... that was scary and i didn't think I was being that hard on the throttle either, lucky i got it down and straight before i flew off the road.
I got my license 1 month ago and I handled my 03 VFR800 in all its 107 hp glory without any tech just fine. Got my 05 R1 yesterday and oh boy, that is quite the beast to tame.
Thanks to youtubers like yammie I chose a duke 390 as a first bike, i can recall several situations when the bike choice saved my ass, too much throttle on a curve or intersection, no problem, not rev matching correctly and doing only engine brake on a descent from a hill in wet conditions, dont worry, whiteout and suddenly had to react, shorter gear box and lower power means that just letting go of the throttle is enough most of the time, going too fast into a curve, you can wrestle a 390 to the ground lower than you have ever done before, just look at the end of the curve, do you wanna try any of this for the first time on a busa?
I just wanna say that while you're mostly correct, I started on a liter bike, an 01 TL1000R with nothing more than a few TH-cam videos under my belt. Not trying to boast, I'm not a bad ass trying to show off. I just have respect for the rocket that could kill me if I looked in the wrong direction. The only reason i bought this bike is because she was available, sitting in my dad's garage unused for years and she was an absolute beauty. I absolutely loved the experience of learning on this machine and I have no regrets and no accidents. Just a burnt calf because I forgot that pipes got hot.
Story of my life... Bought a new-to-me slick and mean carbureted R1 as my very first bike!! This was several years ago, 2006 to be exact, back when I had more ego than sense and just HAD TO have the most powerful bike. Long story short, after many close calls, near misses and brushes with death at high speeds on the highway - basically everytime I would ride it - the universe forced me to part ways with that R1 after a high side fall coming in too hot at an unfamiliar turn. The price I paid to spare my life had I continued riding it? One dislocated elbow and expensive fairing damage. I thanked my lucky stars, healed up, sold the bike and moved on to a 300. Lesson learned? EARN YOUR DISPLACEMENT!
Should really explicitly describe that just because you're being slow and safe on it still doesn't help you become a better rider. Literally learning nothing while you try just not dying.
I've been riding my 250 for 11 years, I'm finally in a position to get what I always wanted, the hunt begins for a ZX6R, I can't even imagine a 600 as a first bike let alone a litre class, just stupid, the 250 has taught me so much without the worry of losing control of monstrous power
In Texas we call this “All hat, no cowboy.” What I’ve noticed over decades of riding MX and sportbikes is when someone starts riding on a 1000cc sportbike, they learn how to not crash it, and not how to actually ride a bike well. There's a reason motocross/enduro 125cc two stroke riders are generally some of the most skilled riders out there, they learn how to push a bike as hard as humanly possible. I’ve always thought it was way more fun to ride a small bike fast than it is to ride a big race bike slow.
Not really, i bought a cbr1000rr this month only because im 2meters tall and i look awful on smaller bikes , also not a bitch to ride a cruiser . So i had no choice but still im alive and riding it. Maybe i start to make videos also to keep you guys updated
@@Dracoiin well... You definitely had a choice lol. There's tons of bikes out there for different heights, I'd be willing to wager you could comfortably fit on an MT03
@@TheKilodaneko you're right but i really do care about the look of my vehicle as well , and the best bike that fit me which also looks good in my opinion was the cbr1000 considering the price , well thanks god i didn't had enough money for a H2 or i would be dead already 😅, its been 3 weeks now i only went to second gear twice tho , I don't want to die soon hope my wrist on throttle agrees with me
Just bought my 1st literbike!!! Been riding 30+yrs, dirt bikes, cruisers, numerous 600's... It was time. R1 life🔥🔥🔥 I waited for the big shit, and loving it.
I went from 50cc Gas Gas to second gen 1000cc ZX10R which doesnt even have ABS nor any power modes. I got my driving license in 28 of May. Next night i started riding Saddle Soreness 1000 miles endurance challance (which passed the IBA inspection. I got the diploma) Now 3 months 19 days later i have driven 13018km (8089 miles). i have seen Lofoten Norway among other beautiful places. In that trip i rode 40 hours without sleeping. I also had to change my tires because i started to see the fabric. I bought 1000cc because i didnt want to change the bike after one summer. Now im feeling i might have to because it could use little bit more power in low rpm. I test drove Ninja H2 with a supercharger. Im thinking it might be my next bike, but in general I am happy with my purchase. Im not saying you should do like i did. This is just my story. I have driven cars at the track before motorcycling and I am a mechanical engineer by profession. Im 28 years old from Finland. Maybe thats it. Finnish people are usually born to ride anything.
Did you start on a 1000cc bike? Did you commit die? Do you think you're an amazing rider? Is your ego big? Are you a big man? Does dad love you now? He can't hurt you. He can't hear you. Only God can judge you. No ragrats.
Had a low power 600 put 80k miles on that... Got a 96in Harley dyna put 78k miles on that... Got a 96in Harley tourer put 150k miles on that... Still scared of the R1. Want one though. Silly to think you can handle one without real training.
@Yammie Noob I’m new to the channel and I am going to be a new rider any advice I’m in Az little confused on what I should get brand etc etc you seem extremely knowledgeable please I am excited to ride but a little apprehensive anything helps thanks 🙏
No rugrets...not one letter! 🅰️👏😆 Proud owner of a 07 Yam R1 ♥ only 1%of riders can get rid of the Chicken strips and hold back from rolling up on dank nooners at every light.Thanks Pappa Yam's 🍠 🏍
@@mc22798 if you can... Get a (used) dirt bike to really understand shifting and nailing down controls, they are cheap and you don't care if you drop it. Then get a street bike... That fits what you need it to do. Brand doesn't really matter, just make sure you're not scared of the power. Nothing makes a bad time worse like doing something new and being scared.
100% agree. I have a 2017 ZX10R and it’s my second bike. Before that I had an 08 ninja 650r for 5 years and I learned everything On that 650 and it was awesome. I hopped back on my 650 after a year on my ZX10R and it felt super slow but I remember when I first got it was like riding lightning and it was so satisfying to grow with that bike and be able to eventually use that bike to its fullest. I can’t Imagine starting on my liter bike that goes 0-100 mph in first gear
Next question: What about a 998cc bike?
Ah yes the negotiator.
The Ninja H2😂
You're good bruh!
What about a turbobusa
Actually learned to ride on one. It's fine on the parking lot and in small towns at midnight, don't recommend going out into traffic XD
My first bike was a Cbr 1000 and have had this bike for years. Not one accident or drop. For me it was maturity, patience and self control with a great deal of awareness. It can be done with the right mindset
Thank you
Thank you sir
As soon as i can afford one thats it, wish me luck
im getting mine as my first bike next friday thank you for that
yep me too, have had a 2015 R1 as my first and only bike for the past 2 years, no drops, no accidents. Did this at 33 years old, maturity helps. If you're in your early to mid 20's i wouldn't go there. Now I'm keen to get a 600 to get experience on something more nimble.
I'm counting on beginners buying super bikes as their first bike!! This is how used low mileage super bikes turn up for sale for cheap!
or for parts
asssuming they don’t wreck them before they sell them LOL
Yeah, they just come with a little bit of character. Which is touch up paint and Chinese ebay parts to replace the broken oem ones. But all can be fixed 👌
Hopefully they didn’t wreck before they sell it
Yeah but they also are the one's responsible for jacking up insurance rates on 600s and 1000s
Honestly this video has inspired more people to start on 1000cc motorcycles for hire than anything else has
I'm thinking at a R1250RS looks as a good starting bike.
@GeforceNow-zg4kk I started on a R1M a few months ago, still alive somehow
My first sport bike is a ZX10R lol. It's not to bad because I'm a bigger guy and honestly the bike is very forgiving, I think it boils down to self control and responsibly
Brother even im getting a zx10r as my first bike and have some serious questions please help me out,,, what's your Instagram??
Should you start on a 1000cc bike?
translate: do you care about your pride more than you life?
Doesn't everyone?
What about suicidal?
What about simple throttle control ?
Mr Tyler only control I have is me getting on it :)
The pride of being beaten by everyone on a slower bike? I'd rather ride the slower bike and have an excuse for being slower 😅
Nah man, I'll be fine. I'll just extend the swing arm to make it more stable.
Totally agree. This solves it.
I know its a joke but so many people do this 😑
Salute
Wait: He’s trying to convince his mostly beginner audience to not ride a liter bike as first motorocycle, whilst simultaneously giving one away to same audience 😂
R1 is the Expert rider giveaway. Different giveaway.
ScuubZ exactly
*Shows really awesome acceleration*
Yammie: "Why would you want to start with this?!"
Thats why:)
ITs like a porn star telling people to do monk mode while getting it raw :D
One of the concerns i have is centered around affordability. Like, i can't afford to buy bike after bike. I think some of us new riders feel like if I buy the 1000, I won't have to buy 3 different bikes going from a R3 to R6 to R1....
This is exactly my concern. I dont come from money, I will be able to buy one bike and won't be able to get another one for another probably 4 years. And I have to buy a car shortly after I get a bike. That's just a lot of money
I agree with you this bullshit that begginers can buy higher cc bikes.
Make sense
@@noahmartin5429 on me if I'm spending upwards of 10 to 15 grand I wanna get a bike I will keep
Right. I’m sure after 6 months 300 will be dirt. But will I be able to afford the next level in six months
Buying a liter bike as you first bike is like driving a Dodge Hellcat to you Permit Test. Its fucking dope
This shit got me week
👍🏼
Lmaoooo 😭😭
Nah dodge hellcat is easy to control i started on one
Only if yr thick
When I did my motorcycle course the instructor said the same thing. He said he had been teaching course for 10 years and witnessed 3 people finish the course, hop on a 1000cc bike and die within a week. 1 guy died the same day he finished the course; said the kids family came to the last course day with a "surprise" r1 present and the kid died that day.
That story always stuck with me.
Jeeze, I wonder how many people from my course have died since I took it
@@TheCraftster1010 that's a very good fucking question and it makes you think
Oh the chilllls😱
My sister best friend bought r1 and died 2 days later he was 24 we live in europe he bought r1 for first bike thats why i hate r1
How old was he? His problem was that he may not have respected the bike, didnt baby it. These things are scary and definitely do happen which is sad.
Remember kids, it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.
Bingo!!!
This absolutely needs more Likes.
Completely agree, 1980s Japanese cruiser rider. And I can wring it's neck safely
@@kegonpegs2833 I have a 1983 GS750. Inline 4, 16 valve, dual overhead cams.
80 horsepower.
Plus I have an aftermarket 4-1 Vance and Hines exhaust on it, and it sounds meaner than most the sport bikes on the road. I love it. The best part?
It was $1,400 with 8,600 miles on it.
@@MitchJohnson0110 that's a good deal dude. Mine is the 1980 xj650 IL 4 DOHC as well. Found it for 600$ with alot of "learning possibilities" attached. My mechanic had the GS and said he always dug the era 👍
I am going to be totally honest. I went to a bike shop today and they were completely out of 600’s which is what I really have been looking at for my first bike. And I started to talk to a gentleman that worked there who showed me the crb 1000rr and he told me all about the “low power mode” and how I could “learn that way and change modes once I was more comfortable.” Which in my mind I totally believe I have the maturity to not switch into another mode until I was comfortable. Then I found this video and it has me second guessing if that bike is a good move. I appreciate your insight and opinion based on your years of experience. It gave me a lot to think about and you may have very well talked me out of making that move.
Well did you end up getting the 1000?
@@chasefazenbaker4840 I ended up finding a deal on a 2015 R6 that was just too good to pass up.
@@robertduncan8400 gotcha thanks for the reply. Going to a couple shops tomorrow to look at a ninja 650 or an r7 honestly not sure what I’ll end up liking. Just excited to get on my first bike even though I’ve been on dirt bikes my whole life already 😂
@@chasefazenbaker4840 as long as you show maturity with your throttle then you should be good no matter which you end up with.
@@robertduncan8400 hey man, 5 months later, how's it been starting on a 600? I'm looking at getting my first bike and I'm wanting an r6 or a zx6r? What are your recommendations honestly? Has it been a huge challenge? Something you regret? I'm about 80% sure I'm going to pick up a zx6r
I bought a 2001 R1 recently. It is my first bike. Bought it more for the challenge of making it run again after a 3 year rest. Got it super cheap and figured the resale value could buy something I really would like to start with. I just like making engines run that haven't in a while. It's satisfying especially if it sounds good when it fires up for the first time.
@Ramanpreet Mann unfortunately I'm still dealing with paperwork so haven't even started on it yet. It's just been sitting at my house now but at least it's in the garage and not outside like before. If it terrifies you then sell and buy something that is still scary but allot smaller in displacement and more forgiving of a new rider. If your not at least a little scared of it you will ride it beyond the bikes capability and that's not safe either
I started riding July 2019 on a Honda cbr 500r. Fast forward to April 2020 I decided to upgrade to a Yamaha r6 and I gotta say, I regret upgrading so quickly. Yes the r6 is amazing and I love the bike but it hinders my progression to becoming a better rider because I’m still scared of it. It’s August now and I’ve put about 5000km on the r6 yet I feel like I’d be faster around a track on the cbr500r than the r6. When I was looking for my upgrade, I considered a litre bike and how big of a fool I was to think it was a good idea. Another thing too, I rented a bmw s1000rr when I was on vacation and it was BORING. It’s got so much power that in city, id be using only 2 gears and highway riding id use 4 gears. There’s also that saying which I now believe is true, it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow. I hope my experience is helpful and thanks yammie for talking facts
I bought a cbr500r as well as my first bike basically and i immediately wanted more power. Id complain and complain about it but at the same time everything else was so fun about it. And then you realize....top speed is only in a straight line, really. Why am i complaining about something that is speedy ENOUGH that im not getting arrested for being a loony on or racking up tickets? Corners! Corners are the fun spots! Its about maintaining speed and leaning more. Thats what i needed to focus on. And then that bike was great! Ive had it like a year and a half now but came to realize that having no storage space sucks sucks SUCKS on a bike. Bought a Versys 650 with all the bags to pair with it. 😆
This is my third year on my 2016 500R and even now I'm still learning and honing my skills on it. As much as I'm dying to move up to a "bigger" bike with more punch, I do understand that my 500R still has plenty enough to teach me in getting my basic skills down and being a better rider. It's a great bike and glad I got it as my first ride and glad to still have it. I'm eying up Aprilia's new 660 platform as my next potential upgrade along with a few other bikes, but all of them fall within the 75hp-100hp range. Honestly, the only real "big" bike I would truly like to own one day is either a Goldwing or a K1600, in addition to a smaller more everyday useable bike. That would be my dream setup.
Gofr5 yeah those new aprilia 660s are looking goooood. For sure though, you dont need any more than 100hp for the road. And even just a 20hp bump up is quite noticeable! Ive learned i can’t just look at hp figures to find that perfect bike. Its so much more complicated than that haha.
Also, i recently saw a chocolate brown Goldwing and it was amazing looking. It didn’t have the gigantic back seat-rest/tailbag and it looked so rideable. So un-intimidating for such a large bike.
Dude, you convinced me better than yammie. Thanks for both of you
@@Gofr5 Look into the VTX 1800 as well. More power than you need, but very docile and civilized, when riding like a reasonable adult. Dad had issues with the weight, 720 pounds dry, and went to a Vulcan 1600 Classic, offering me his X.
It's like a Goldwing, with less bulk, but just as capable as.a.tourer.
Rips throttle like a toddler and hits 80mph in first gear; “why would you want that as your first motorbike?”. That’s why yammie, that’s why.
LOL, I saw that and thought 11 newbies just ordered R1's on their credit cards.
That’s insane my Kawasaki 400 made me go OH SHIT!! In first gear 😂
@@Jambuc829 a 400 makes you work for it, which kinda is sucky for smaller displacement bikes...
@@soundsgood7757 Hahahaaha
I have to say that liter bikes in general just aren't that much fun to ride. I have 7 bikes and don't get me wrong, I love the power of liter bikes. The problem is they are so heavy. You can say they are nimble but they are just nimble for their size. My most fun bike is the R3 and my smallest. It could use more speed and power, granted. But when I'm on the twisties I don't even notice the lack of power. It's pure fun and capable.
You are so right I can't stand the sports bikes with there clip on handlebars I have a ktm 390 duke and I love it light nimble enough power for here in the uk where the speed limit is 70 mph on the motorway which is always packed so you cant go fast anyway.
that's why I want a 600cc
Weight is almost negligible nowadays! Yamaha R6 420lbs. Yamaha R1 439lbs. Lithium battery and you’re almost at parity.
Have you ridden the Ninja 400? How does it compare feelings wise?
@@MrRainbowSprinkles Haven't ridden on one. Hell, right now I can't find one. I'd love to try test ride one. Was trying to buy a TST race kit for the R3 to squeeze a little more out of it but they are sold out for now. But yeah, if America get's an R4 3 cylinder I will be buying one for sure. If not I'll probably pull the trigger on a Ninja 400 (order one). I'm really loving low displacement bikes these days.
Just ordered my zx10r as my first bike thanks for the video
Being prob the smartest motorcycle video I have seen in a long while, for some reason people will still ignore the hard earned wisdom that only comes with repair bills, medical bills, years and miles of seat time, scares, near misses, and extremely abused underwear and jump on the craziest engine with a seat their budget will allow.
I luckily live close to lots of off road opportunities and I often try to steer people looking to learn the joy of riding to gaining some insight there if at all reasonable to do so. I cut my teeth off road and I think without question it can ease the transition and shorten the learning curve to the highway. Its not suitable for everyone or every situation but its another pathway to consider if learning and growing is indeed the goal to a lifetime on two wheels. (Even if we try to cheat and reduce that to one wheel occasionally ;)
Last August, talked to a guy at one of the places bikers go to hit some twisty roads in the area. Hockley general store. He was excited. Passed his weekend MSF course the prior weekend and ordered his gixxer 1000, which he was proudly showing off. Nice bike.
June, 2020, saw the same guy at the gathering spot at Forks on the same bike, with the telltale signs of being dropped. Scratched back of the mirror, bar ends scratched, dings on the fairings, you know the signs. Talk to him and he was less excited with the bike. He turned it on, and the odometer was at just under 1000km. Yes, about 600 miles in what would be about 5 riding months up here.
Last week, saw him at a local Timmy's near Hockley, and he was excited again, to show off his new bike. A new Ninja 400. He bought it new first week of July. Bike has just over 1100km on it in 4 weeks. He said he's not getting rid of this bike. I laughed. He will buy another litre bike again, but not for a long time I suspect. He was still eyeing the RSV4 a few spots over.
The point is, when you're scared of something, you will avoid it. The bike scared him so he didn't ride it. He only rode it because he spent so much on it he felt he had to ride it so he'd go out for a few hours, once a month or so. Until he just said fuck it, and traded it in. Took a hit on it, but he didn't care. He's riding all of the time now.
Any fool can twist the throttle on the highway. The curves and corners and parking lots are the things that will get you. Throttle control. Learn it, live it, love it and you will ride for a long time. Don't learn it properly, and your riding days are numbers.
Oh I love going out to the forks. One of the few places I make way out to when I visit the folks back in Toronto. Only ever been there 2 or 3 times though. Never stopped to hang out there though, not that there's any real hanging out going on right now with all the social distancing, at least from what I saw on my last run there back in July. Good to hear the fella is enjoying himself more now on a more appropriate bike.
Perfect example. I have a ninja 400 and I’m in a Facebook group; you’d be surprised at the amount of people that are selling their liter bikes to move down to 400s
"I'll keep it in low power mode till I get used to it then out it big boy mode." We both know that's bull crap. You can't even beat the temptation of wanting to get a 1000cc bike instead of a smaller bike.
I literally did that with my cbr1000rr, kept it in the lowest setting until I was 100 percent comfortable with the bike which was the first 1500 miles, though it wasn't my first bike
Morne what was your first bike?
@@Jambuc829 A 2015 Yamaha r3 that I still have and I ride it as much as I do my cbr1000rr, if not more.
@@ElementalMax-ut2fq I went from a 300, to a triumph Daytona 675 then to my cbr1000rr, I found it easy enough as long as you know how to ride I would say you can do it
@@ElementalMax-ut2fq There is a noticeable lack of power in mode 3 for my cbr1000rr which is the low power mode, the throttle is not as twitchy so if you've been riding a 300 for a while and want a 1000 I would say go for it but I will warn you, you've gotta show restraint with a 1000 I can't tell you how stupid fast these things are or how much I just want to open her up fully around town lol
Yup. my first motorcycle and my first time on a motorcycle ever was a kawasaski z1000. Bought new in 06 and still have it today : )
I just bought an r6 as my first bike a couple weeks ago. I’m a 19 y old guy coming from a cammed and tuned scat pack. I like speed. I’ve already been totally blown away by the power of the r6 and nearly laughed myself to death with giddiness. It may be my ego, but I honestly think I could handle an r1. I’ve had zero close calls, I’ve given the r6 all it has in a straight line, I’m not stupid on backroads, I apex all my turns and I go way below the speed of what I know the bike can handle, and I’m conservative with the throttle when I should be. I’m going to listen to you though, and spend some more time learning on my r6 before the devil on my shoulder tells me to make the big jump. I know I don’t need it, but I want it. The thrill is addicting and I already want more! Thanks for preaching reason, you might have just saved my life 😂
I'm gonna play devils advocate on this one. My first bike happened to be a 1000 based purely on availability and a really really good deal at the time. True they are not anywhere near as forgiving as more well known beginner bikes, but at the end of the day that shouldn't matter as much as the rider practicing and understanding basic things about riding ANY motorcycle. Just be responsible and take your time learning new things and getting used to whatever bike you're on. It can be done. And it doesn't have to be a super difficult and dangerous experience. At the end of the day, you still control the throttle and steering. I think of it kind of like learning to shoot firearms. But with firearms there's no real equivalent to bikes as far as like a 300 vs a 900 or 1000. With guns literally every one of them can kill you instantly just as easy as the next if you're irresponsible with it. And 99% of people who try it have no problem when leaning firearms. I think there's a stigma when it comes to the MIGHTY 1000! And I know everyone is different, but if you're chill with your ego and are honestly interested in learning something, or anything else considered very dangerous really, and take your time and try to really understand what's happening, and be honest with yourself about the risk, in a safe environment, you'll be just fine. And in the case of motorcycles (for me) it turned out to be a great experience because there's no "building up" to a higher cc bike etc. It's just what I knew from the get go which made most other bikes practically cake to learn and ride. Easier on the mind as well with all the big bike stigma most have. I think many people are so dramatic about it because hearsay kind of trains your mind to be that way, like with many motorcycle myths passed through tribal knowledge. It's really honestly no big deal. Use your brain and don't push your limits right off the bat as with anything dangerous.
@Aaron Kruger I agree with most of that, I'm just saying it's not near as big a deal as people make it out to be, and really I think its just more exciting for people to talk about the mighty 1000 in such an overly hyped up way. And the gun thing, what I'm saying is it doesn't matter who can handle what caliber any better while being fired. The same small amount of negligence in ANY caliber firearm regardless of who can handle it better during firing can still be 100% as deadly. The consequences can and most likely will be exactly as bad and life altering/deadly. But for 99% of the people that train in ALL different calibers, this doesn't happen. And that's my analogy to motorcycles. It doesn't have to be some big scary thing that nobody should ever try. It is dangerous and you should know what you are getting yourself into and do it safely just like with firearms. People tend to leave out that so many people also wreck smaller engine bikes as well and in between. It's not the bike. If you aren't "ready" for the GOD ALMIGHTY 1000, then really you aren't ready for a 300 either. Another thought, a yamaha r3 top speed is 110mph. I don't see the difference in bodily injury between that and 160 on a motorcycle as very significant. To me it's like jumping off a really tall bridge
Onto concrete vs jumping off sears tower onto concrete. The true differences that matter between the bikes when it comes to safety are inerrant in the fact that they are already motorcycles. Everything important that must be learned is present in every size engine bike. Yeah you can get to deadly speeds in a shorter amount of time on a 1000, but depending on the accident, the deadly speed could've been just 20mph. It's just not the big scary monster people make it out to be is all my point really is. It gets over hyped. In experience and knowing a couple other people who started out with large cc bikes, it's really no big deal as much as it is fun to hype about. What I will say tho is when you start to get into really fast "superbikes" and such for the streets, it is a little more pointless to have so much performance that you can't ring out on the street. But just like with crazy muscle cars and "racecars for the street" like many lambos and Ferraris, you'll still see them riding around regular roads just fine. Yes you see accidents with those but you also see plenty of accidents with regular cars as well. And most people driving these crazy cars on the street have no racing experience. And many rich people start out with real crazy cars like this and are perfectly fine. It's not the car/bike, it's the driver. When you first learn to drive a regular car, the first thing you do isn't to push full gas etc. Most people don't put pedal to the metal in their first beater. In first lessen etc. Why would you do that on a motorcycle? Just so many things wrong with the stigma of starting on a 1000. Of course the consequences become greater faster on a 1000, but if that will even come into play for you, then you should work that out before ever climbing onto ANY street bike.
@Aaron Kruger i agree. But I think either way, you should be taught that. And that being the case, it wouldn't matter what size engine you have if you're taught to be responsible with that throttle from the beginning. If the first thing you're gonna do is grab a handful of throttle, get off the bike period lol. But yeah if you don't know literally anything about the bike and decide to buy one and get right on it anyway I suppose it would be good for your new bike to be something less powerful, but really power to weight on most bikes makes most of them way faster than your average vehicle to begin with. So if you put yourself in that situation on any bike you're gonna have a bad day
You’re a smart Ryder most riders are not. Get a 125cc when you dumb you can kill your self with it. 😅
me from europe: confused in A1 licence
Same here mate. What do you ride? R125 here
@@gromkelly6346 still looking for 1 just got the licence selling my 50cc to get a 125cc
Crys in 125cc
I have 350,000 miles on two wheels and I still have my reservations about getting an R1. Can't even imagine starting on one.
I agree starting on one is suicide. With 350k miles on your belt I think you'll be fine. I got my R1 yesterday after less than 2.5k miles on the saddle and 5 weeks after getting my license lol.
Get a cbr
Yammie: Don't get a liter bike as your first bike... Trust me
Baby squid: Challenge accepted!
Never understood these types of videos. Myself and plenty of my friends started on liters. They are fast, however, they aren't these big bad monsters you have to fear. You can die on a 600.
you can die on a r3
You can die on anything in any manner of strange ways. You could be pedaling your bike and die by a coconut falling on your head. You only live once
@@eazysmokes3743 yolo but, dont do crazy things on a bike if you cant handle it.....
OneK must be the prerogative of the chosen ones. Otherwise, they won’t shine from the Raider mass. I do not underestimate, big bike, small mistake, big mess. I don’t like the besserwisser, this video wasn’t instructive. said 100 times, you don’t want this. Wrong, this is what you want.
Euro Bro here, startet on a Street Scrambler 900, but it only has 65 HP unrestricted and I had to have it restricted to 42 HP for beginning with it. Absolutely love that the bike will grow with me when I can open her up. There are liter bikes you can ride as a beginner, just not sport bikes.
I ride a 1200 Virago/Viagra as a "learner"(dirt cheap), and still the Honda CB500 goes like an untamed beast compared to the sluggish chromed horse. When they are referring to 600's or 1000's/litre bike, they are referring to the sport bike segment.
It all depends on the style, the bike and the intended purpose (I wouldn't be scared to go for a 1250GSA as a beginner bike, but I am cheap so going for the V-Strom 650XT)
Yes, but he is talking about literbikes which have close to 200hp.
If someone did decide to get a Litre Bike as a beginner, how many horsepwer would you consider "too much" for a beginner? Maybe the R1250 is the limit? I feel like the S1000XR is too much.
Young thug got a h2 for his birthday and he doesn’t even know how to ride
Take out life insurance on him.
Horses don’t stop they keep going
A gangster never puts it in reverse.
uthant dillon you could lose your life but they keep going (btw its hustlers not horses lmfao)
emilio mohanna that’s the joke bro 😂 it sounds like he says horses
Oh I’m looking forward to this
Im definitely getting a ZH2 as my first bike, thanks for the encouragement Yammie!
"When you abandon freedom to achieve security, you lose both and deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
John Villarreal when you don't understand anything Benjamin Franklin said your name is John Villarreal
You're absolutely right on this.
I guarantee that a good rider on an R3 could take an average rider on an R1 on a twisty road. It's not the bike, it's the rider. Take the time to learn.
My favorite is the guy on the liter bikes that rush to get in front of me on Ortega highway only to get passed by me on my bolt as soon as the turns start because they can't turn due to lack of experience
*insert 14 year old girl who rips on a ninja 400*
I took a break from YammieBoob after his noob ego-driven accident into that Porsche.
It seems like he's gotten a bit more mature since then. I will admit I'm impressed at this video. Very true points.
I rode a Ninja 250 for 2 years before I ever got on an R6. It's obvious when you come across a rider on a big bike that can't handle it.
I actually have been asked by friends about this, you can definitely have a 1000cc as a first bike but you SHOULDN'T, you won't learn any skillset besides being scared shitless or crashing.
For what I've experienced, this question mostly comes from young people that want to rush into something big, don't do it, there's nothing wrong with starting on a smaller bike, you'll learn and get used to it very fast, you WILL get a faster bike eventually, don't rush anything.
I started on a 125 and stuck with it for 2 years, tried my cousin's 2004 GSXR 1000 after that and even with 2 years of experience I didn't feel ready physically or mentally, I was scared like hell knowing a small twist of the throttle would send me flying, ended up buying a 600, and I love it and don't have any plans to trade it for a 1000 anytime soon, it's pointless for me.
Anyways just don't feel like you need to be faster or cooler than others, live your life slowly and fully, start small, progression is key for everything.
You can't tell me what to do!
Your not my real dad!
@@Jonathan-q1i Sure I'm not but you could always, you know, buy a busa. No pressure tho.
Buy it.
Haha a 125 to 1000 is quite a big jump. I'd go for a 450 supermoto prob.
@@Leonn_. Actually planning on getting a crf 450 funny enough
U should be scared of it ! U need to Respect the machine be cause it WILL KILL U if u o not. Baby the bike until u r ready & always ride like u have nothing to prove, preferably solo!!!
I've learned everything I know on my Liter, my first bike and I love it. She's a 2014 cb1000r, I've owned her for about half a year and drive her whenever I can. I crashed her last week and not due to any power dilemma, I just didn't see a curve in the middle of the night. I would buy my 1000 a million times over again
You crazy as shit my first bike was a Kawasaki 400 and I thought that thing was too fast.
First bike z900 heavy when moving with feet but knock on wood when riding im good. Just going slow taking it 1 day at a time
Bought a Yamaha R1 coming off of dirt bikes and a 150cc road bike
one thing people don’t mention is too often is how much torque you’ll feel with even the slightest wrist twitch with such a powerful bike. also part of learning is learning the clutch and on such a powerful bike if you’re just going between 1st and 2nd to get up to 60mph you don’t really get to learn about the bike
Hey Yam, earlier this year in February I bought an R1 at a bitchin price at a harley dealership I work at. I was 18 and it was my first bike and you described my thought process on the whole thing perfectly. Good price, start on low power mode and all that jazz. Going from harleys all day to the R1 was a HUGE step but I managed to make it work. I got all low speed maneuvers down and got comfortable on the bike firs for months before I let the devil on my shoulder unleash almost all the bike has to offer. I know I have a lot to learn still so I don’t push my limits and I know the 200hp between my legs can take over if I’m not careful. Anyways yeah my purchase could be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever done but damn I’m the happiest I’ve ever been with it. EDIT: I have years of experience riding this just happens to be my first bike lol and I never let my ego get the best of me on this thing. People wanna race all the time and I let them have it. My ego isn’t worth my life so I take like easy w it.
I'm from europe and im 16 why am i watching this
Because we dont have anything better to do
We watch, because we love bikes. Even those we are bot allowed to ride.
who cares
How'd you get here? Lol
Foxtopher700 you do
I learned to ride on a CB 300 and went into a 636 after one season. I think the biggest issue for new riders is getting used to the power/learning how to control it during low/high speed emergency maneuvers. On a 250 or a 400 it is much more forgiving. If you panic and gas the throttle on a 600, you'll wheelie right into the car in front of you. Just practice a lot on back roads or empty parking lots and get your confidence up. Riding fast in a straight line doesn't matter if you can't control the bike and save yourself from a bad situation.
Lol, I bought a Speed Triple 1200 RS as my first bike - 4,000 miles later I'm not dead yet and love it.
Ha yummy really love the advice you gave
My very first bike was a Yamaha 650 special air cooled twin very tame bike
Sold it to billed a race car. Then I got a fz07 boy did it give me a surprise. Rode it for about 2 years and guess what after watching your videos I went out and bought an R3 with this little R3 I’m having such a good time and I figure it out just how much I didn’t know about right now I’m still perfecting the craft watching your videos. Thanks much keep going bro. Oh by the way, I’m still racing shifter carts probably the fastest thing on four wheels in a corner.
This is completely correct and also psychologically utterly unhelpful: the more you tell beginners to not get a 1000cc superbike because it's too difficult to handle as a first bike, the more they will do exactly that, because you're setting it as a challenge and they'll want to prove themselves capable of meeting it.
“We choose to ride a 1000cc superbike and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.” (← is what they think).
If you truly wish to dissuade beginners from getting this sort of bike, you have to make it sound uncool, not difficult. But then maybe stop giving them away.
“My friend _______ started on a liter bike, and he never wrecked.” This is the same logic that inspires people to raw-dog hookers 🤦🏻♂️
@@Christopher_R What could go wrong?
Its uncool by itself
People point fingers at you and say:look at that pussy ridin an r1 like a CG 125
friend started on an r1... he was timid at first but did just fine. lol
Everyday I’m debating with myself if I wanna start on a 600 or not and ppl out here tryna start on a 1k 😂
i wanna get a 650 like an sv
Brandon Corbett I want an R6, everyone is tellin me do it, but everyone on youtube sayin don’t lol
Samuelito A 600 you can start on but I wouldn’t go anything bigger
I started on a cbr 900, if you have any experience riding it should be no problem.
Then we have us eurobros who have to either wait till 20 or 24 or start on a 50cc (16yo) or 125cc(18yo)
Before I was scared of buying a 750 and now I'm so scared of the 1000 because I just loved yours.
Oh thank god im starting on a 1190cc bike. Thank you so much for the warning I love your videos!
As jezza would say: “how hard can it be?”
As papa yam said," it was that easy"
*I recently picked up a 2019 CBR 1000RR for sale of almost HALF of its retail value with only 300 miles on it, some 18 year old kids parents bought it for him, he rode it a few times , the dude was like 5’6 and 100 pounds he definitely made the right choice by letting it go but I came up big time* 😂
That Was a come up for real 🔥🔥🔥😂
Just rolled over 10k miles on my 17 1000rr. It's a great bike. Enjoy 🤘🤘
As someone that's been riding for 19 years, has had 10 bikes over the years, has crossed africa on a bike. I still don't want 200HP.
what is your sweet spot happy hp then?
@@ricky_ph9774 I don't think hp is really a great measure of how enjoyable a bike is. I can tell you that 50 hp around town on a CRF450R is more than enough power. Forget about power. Take the bike for a test ride, if it gets your blood flowing then it's a good bike.
@@bandobandit353 i highly agree. Im eyeing 400cc range, enough highway legal here
Waiting for Swedish svartpilen 401 as swiss-army bike (freeway, street and occasional light offroading)
(Compared to 'carbs,
The Challenge with newer bikes with FI With multiple sensors (reliability?) and program can be buggy-prone - leading to erratic bike 'behaviour'
(worse> bike stalling)
Japanese bike reputation for reliability is no question, esp the likes of honda
If there will be 400cc yamaha xsr, thats should be enough for my need😁 (currently they have xsr700 (680cc - too much for 1st bigbike) and xsr155cc (too low)
Just put a deposit on a 2020 Honda rebel S - no regrets yet! Hoping it will be entertaining enough that I don’t get bored but also not going to kill me. Thank you for putting sense into new riders!
As a beginner myself, this is invaluable. My wife whose owned 1000cc bikes has told me this from day 1, same as my father. I came into the sport thinking I needed to play “catch up.” Humbling!
All very valid points. My first bike was a ZX6R, and not only that but I discovered after the fact it was souped, the point being even a 600 can be far too much. I'm fortunate that I didn't kill myself on that thing. Many times that thing scared the ever-living crap out of me. Now I ride an 1100, but its a philosophically different bike as it's a vintage metric cruiser...torque for days but forgiving, in stark contrast to the ZX6R that was like a bipolar puma, just waiting for you to drop your guard to remind you that it's a wild animal with an intermittent desire to kill you. Listen to Papa Yam and don't be an idiot by buying a racing meat grinder for your first bike.
The ergos are a huge deal too. Low speed manoeuvres are typically something that beginners need to work on, and having the bars so low makes it much harder to do stuff like tight turns and U-turns. And then if you get unbalanced and grab a handful, you know what happens next.
My first street bike was a 1000cc,I love it.
I get what you're saying but I think it's absolutely possible to start on a liter bike
So I can start on a R1?
@@dracovoid5290 I would say yes. Just. don't be an idiot on it
I got a 1000cc as my first, it’s been loads of fun!
The fear is good, helps you respect the motorcycle and minimize on mistakes
I have a 03 rsv 1000, goes on full power all the time,
I just had to learn great throttle and clutch control,
When I first sat on it and rode through the parking lot, I felt like selling it, hard af to maneuver, the only thing I’d maneuvered on 2 wheels was a bicycle,
Learnt everything about motorcycles on TH-cam (shifting etc)
I have no regrets that I started on 1000cc, glad I got to save up on money from buying 250cc then upgrading bit by bit
If you’re safe, responsible, and know what you have to do, you could learn it
I’m a relatively quick learner though, it’s been 2 weeks but I can ride in the street safely with traffic, and obey the speed limits, I just ride within my limits 😊
After riding a Triumph rocket 3 for a year as a first bike, these feel like a bicycle, and an absolute dream to ride
Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue in D minor - J. S. Bach, is the piece in the beginning
What do boats and motorcycles have in common?
Know matter which one you get you'll wish you got a bigger one!
I hear the same about tractors as well...advice is still wrong. I have a 1000 cc motorcycle (older) and ride my Z400 more often. My tractor was the biggest I could fit into a specific location on my property and have yet to find something I want it to do that it can't do...it just does some of them slower.
I started on a yz250 (dirt bike) still kicks my butt sometimes.
2 weeks after buying my first bike, I bought a ZX10R. Rode it for a year and over 10k miles. Looking for more comfort, I bought a gsxs1000 and rode that a year and almost 10k miles. Now, I have a modded Zx14r and almost 10k miles. I’ve had a ton of fun riding. 200mph, no problem. I wish I had purchased the Zx14r as my first bike.
i started on a 1046cc kawasaki, 10,000 miles later im still here. its been nothing but fun. country driving no highways useing common sense, knowing your limitations. i dont regret it at all.
1000ccs "low power" mode is STILL "TOO MUCH power" mode for beginners and "first voyage" squids.
People don't seem to understand that if you BLINK on 200HP, you're splattered on the back of a truck, or over 100ft of asphalt...
Reminds me of people who think they can properly drive a supercar as their first bike. Too much power.
As an Australian, knowing you gotta ride on a
Toby Silva as a European boi myself (with the whole A1, A2 and A motorcycle license story and all) it amazes me that there is no restriction in the U.S for beginner riders. Once you have the MSF course in your pocket, you’re on your own. It’s scary in my opinion
Daniel Ribeiro- eh, you generally are just a danger to yourself and it isn’t the governments job to tell you what to do with yourself
IMTHEDARKNIGHT - I can agree with the last part of your statement, it’s not up to the government to tell you what to do and what not to. But think of it this way (and I am sure whichever MSF Course management can agree with me), just an example:
Let’s say the American government puts restrictions on motorcycle licenses for beginners, you pay for the MSF, get your restricted license, you buy a “low” powered bike and HAVE to ride for (let’s say) at least a year and then do an advanced riding course to undo the restriction, which you’ll have to pay for too. You sell your current bike and buy a new bigger bike.
It’d be a bigger cashflow for both the US government (taxes and all) and the courses’ managements (generally bigger incomes).
@@danrib4048 Many european countries (and I think you are from the same one as me) do have unrestricted A direct access. I'm taking it right now, exam next wednesday. And to me, it doesn't really make a difference that you can take it after you are 25 - sure, you have a bit more road knowledge and less hormones. I have defensive driving course, drove ambulances for a few years. But I was still scared shitless taking classes on a 280Kg 750cc supersport or whatever from the 90s, riding 1st gear all class long, even in highways, and hoping I didn't die (previous classes were a CB500 which was just fun to play with). I was so nervous I might accelerate too much doing figure 8 that my gloves got soaking wet and my fingers got bruised. Luckily, two other guys crashed the damned bike into oblivion and now we got a nice new amazing Z650. Nakeds are the best, mild mannered, light, to learn in.
My point is that next thursday, if I pass my exam, I could also buy an R1 and kill myself the same day going 300km/h. Our system just makes it that I must be older than 25 to do so. But I bought a sweet slow NC700x as first bike, safe choice.
Soraya Imperial as far as I know and as far as I have researched, here in Luxembourg no matter what age you have, the A2 is required for a minimum of 3 months and a maximum of 2 years before doing a “test” and getting the A license. I don’t necessarily agree with this but I do get it from a safety standpoint (Either way I have no choice, soooo... yeah)
The thing is people are more mature with 25 than with 17/18 years old (at least I’d like to hope so) so they are a bit more aware of what they have in their hands.
Also, good luck for next Wednesday, I hope you succeed in getting your license! I have to wait until next year because of the virus
Thats how I did it. My first bike, that I learned to ride on, was a 2008 CBR 1000RR
Edit: I crashed it, got an S1000, crashed that too, got a ninja 650, happy with it.
I gotta 650 I wanna gsxr 750 tho
A week doesn’t go by that I tell customers this!! A young kid comes I and ask “where is the 1000’s, busa’s, or 1400’s?” I’ve been riding well over 20 years and had all kinda bikes, but never seen the need for the liter bikes. Most of my riding now is trackdays and I’m twisting the throttle on a 600 that I freaking love!! Two thumbs up on the video!!
My beginner bike was a cb650r. Brilliant, calm, civilised. After 12 months i grew out of it and bought a cb1000r. Best decission
Drinking game: Take a shot every time he says "Literally".
My first bike was a 1043cc Z1000, I had never ridden a motorcycle in my life other than the 2 hours on an R3 in the MSF course. It didn't have power modes. It had 135HP/82Ftlbs at the wheel. It was perfectly fine. I would NEVER tell somebody to get a 1K superbike or even a 600 supersport as their first motorcycle. But a large cc naked? Absolutely, it truly isn't hard to be responsible on the throttle if you're not a moron.
No Yammie we shouldn't have a tier license system, because freedom is the MOST important thing here, NOT safety. That being said I started riding on dirt bikes, so I felt confident starting on an 1100 Suzuki... And I have had no issues over the past few years. Don't try to assume you know what is best for everyone, yes the inexperienced should start slow, but that's NO reason for you to say we should be restricted, that's exactly why we LEFT!
You appear not to understand the argument for tiers. Tiers limit the individual’s freedom to endanger the lives of others. And tiers support everyone’s right to use the public highways in confidence that other users are competent drivers of their chosen vehicle.
@@frankymacf .... No I understand it perfectly... And I maintain my position... NO... WE ARE FREE MEN HERE! PERIOD!
My neighbor just bought a 1100cc bike as his first.. he’s only 26.. and all I can say is I’m keeping him in my prayers after watching you romp it in big boy mode.
My first bike was 2014 s1000rr. 7 years past... NOW I'M RIDING A 2014 HP4 STILL HAVING A GOOD TIME.
I was 5'10" 175 lbs. and 17 when I started on a 2007 Suzuki GSX1000R back in 2011. My dad went on many rides with me to make sure he felt OK that I wasn't going to kill myself. My first ride I topped out at a whopping 21(YES 21) MPH. I laid it down due to cold tires leaning too far out of a gas station after years of riding showing off to a girl. It was great for me I believe because I started on a bike I had a great deal of respect for. I feel confident in riding anything.
Feet touching the ground??
It's like if an 18 year old could get his driver license and then buy a formula 1 car. That's what I got from the video
its like giving a 16 year old with a fresh-printed learners permits a dodge hellcat as a first car....
Dude remember the first Hellcat ever sold got wrapped around a guardrail in Colorado!? I think it was GreenGo and only lasted 45 minutes after leaving dealership.
Sounds fun af ahqhqhq lol
Yep, my first car (mustang gt) at sixteen and my first street bike cbr900rr at 19 ..crashed them both (without serious injury thankfully) with in just a few weeks of having them...young and dumb! I’m 46 now and have a 650 V-Strom...maturity I guess...lol
@@jamolljamoll2937 I just changed sprockets on my Ninja 650, pretty easy. 12 and 49 is a scary combo
Im a new rider, i listen to your advice and I got a ninja 300 and I’m happy with it.
i got a 2014 cbr650f as my first bike. never sat on one before i got it, rode 40miles home just fine. put on 6k miles since.
twist of the wrist LITERALLY got me home.
Forget 200hp, beginners can’t really handle 100hp without all the tech.
Been riding for about 10 years, my 100hp Tiger still scares me when I push it.
true! my first bike had something like 70HP and it scared the crap out of me for the first 2 weeks at least.
@@dylanjchess 100hp on a bike is the sweet spot imho. anything sub 60 and it is a little too tame anything above 115 and you better have nannies or it can be too much. I remember just twisting the throttle a little too much on my 919 just coming around a corner and lifting the front end before I straightened out... that was scary and i didn't think I was being that hard on the throttle either, lucky i got it down and straight before i flew off the road.
I got my license 1 month ago and I handled my 03 VFR800 in all its 107 hp glory without any tech just fine. Got my 05 R1 yesterday and oh boy, that is quite the beast to tame.
@@stolenlaptop Gotta be careful with the throttle at corner exits my man. I'm still scared of pushing the R1 I bought yesterday on a straight lol.
Thanks to youtubers like yammie I chose a duke 390 as a first bike, i can recall several situations when the bike choice saved my ass, too much throttle on a curve or intersection, no problem, not rev matching correctly and doing only engine brake on a descent from a hill in wet conditions, dont worry, whiteout and suddenly had to react, shorter gear box and lower power means that just letting go of the throttle is enough most of the time, going too fast into a curve, you can wrestle a 390 to the ground lower than you have ever done before, just look at the end of the curve, do you wanna try any of this for the first time on a busa?
Not to be an ass but our driving school has bigger bikes for 24years and older ktm 690 is the one or mt07 to start with.
Is the KTM Duke 390 a good starting bike?
The best starter bike
390 literally made for newer rider.
Pretty expensive for what it is though, buy a cheap 400 then get a 790 when you're a bit more experienced.
I rode a 390 at the msf it was an insanely fun bike and has enough power to feel like a rocket if you have no experience
Yes as well as the Kawasaki Z400 which is what I started on.
Hell yeah, 360 loop is beautiful. Nice seeing you are from the area. I’ll stick to the grom for now 😮💨
Watched for 20secs and was like these roads look familiar then sure enough I saw the 360 bridge! Proposed up there
That's why I'm starting on a 998cc 120hp Naked bike, totally different type of ride.
Anyone who thinks this isn't sage advice, just think about it. EVERYONE knows that 'bro' that crashed a 2001 GSXR1000 within a week of buying it.
Me as a euroboy crying
"Why would you want something that's gonna make your life difficult" People keep saying to me "if you see various paths choose the hard one" lmao
The hard one, not the dumb one. The harder path is ignoring peer pressure and ego.
I just wanna say that while you're mostly correct, I started on a liter bike, an 01 TL1000R with nothing more than a few TH-cam videos under my belt. Not trying to boast, I'm not a bad ass trying to show off. I just have respect for the rocket that could kill me if I looked in the wrong direction.
The only reason i bought this bike is because she was available, sitting in my dad's garage unused for years and she was an absolute beauty. I absolutely loved the experience of learning on this machine and I have no regrets and no accidents. Just a burnt calf because I forgot that pipes got hot.
Story of my life... Bought a new-to-me slick and mean carbureted R1 as my very first bike!! This was several years ago, 2006 to be exact, back when I had more ego than sense and just HAD TO have the most powerful bike.
Long story short, after many close calls, near misses and brushes with death at high speeds on the highway - basically everytime I would ride it - the universe forced me to part ways with that R1 after a high side fall coming in too hot at an unfamiliar turn. The price I paid to spare my life had I continued riding it? One dislocated elbow and expensive fairing damage. I thanked my lucky stars, healed up, sold the bike and moved on to a 300. Lesson learned? EARN YOUR DISPLACEMENT!
Should really explicitly describe that just because you're being slow and safe on it still doesn't help you become a better rider. Literally learning nothing while you try just not dying.
I've been riding my 250 for 11 years, I'm finally in a position to get what I always wanted, the hunt begins for a ZX6R, I can't even imagine a 600 as a first bike let alone a litre class, just stupid, the 250 has taught me so much without the worry of losing control of monstrous power
Why?: Because people are masochistic and I believe "Pain is an excellent teacher." You'll be alright...
In Texas we call this “All hat, no cowboy.” What I’ve noticed over decades of riding MX and sportbikes is when someone starts riding on a 1000cc sportbike, they learn how to not crash it, and not how to actually ride a bike well. There's a reason motocross/enduro 125cc two stroke riders are generally some of the most skilled riders out there, they learn how to push a bike as hard as humanly possible. I’ve always thought it was way more fun to ride a small bike fast than it is to ride a big race bike slow.
I started with a 750ss it was easy to ride.. learned a ton.. now have a 1k and drag knee to check my lean angle.. love it!
I have your answer papa yams. It’s cause I wanna go fast.
Not really, i bought a cbr1000rr this month only because im 2meters tall and i look awful on smaller bikes , also not a bitch to ride a cruiser . So i had no choice but still im alive and riding it. Maybe i start to make videos also to keep you guys updated
M Rs maybe you should!
@@Dracoiin well... You definitely had a choice lol. There's tons of bikes out there for different heights, I'd be willing to wager you could comfortably fit on an MT03
@@TheKilodaneko you're right but i really do care about the look of my vehicle as well , and the best bike that fit me which also looks good in my opinion was the cbr1000 considering the price , well thanks god i didn't had enough money for a H2 or i would be dead already 😅, its been 3 weeks now i only went to second gear twice tho , I don't want to die soon hope my wrist on throttle agrees with me
@@Dracoiin What's bitchy about riding cruisers?
Racing is "Literally the only reason they exist." As he rides it all over the place.
It's a motorbike, duuhhh?
Buy a H2 its only 998cc
Lnao😂😂
Just bought my 1st literbike!!! Been riding 30+yrs, dirt bikes, cruisers, numerous 600's... It was time. R1 life🔥🔥🔥
I waited for the big shit, and loving it.
I went from 50cc Gas Gas to second gen 1000cc ZX10R which doesnt even have ABS nor any power modes. I got my driving license in 28 of May. Next night i started riding Saddle Soreness 1000 miles endurance challance (which passed the IBA inspection. I got the diploma)
Now 3 months 19 days later i have driven 13018km (8089 miles). i have seen Lofoten Norway among other beautiful places. In that trip i rode 40 hours without sleeping. I also had to change my tires because i started to see the fabric.
I bought 1000cc because i didnt want to change the bike after one summer. Now im feeling i might have to because it could use little bit more power in low rpm. I test drove Ninja H2 with a supercharger. Im thinking it might be my next bike, but in general I am happy with my purchase.
Im not saying you should do like i did. This is just my story. I have driven cars at the track before motorcycling and I am a mechanical engineer by profession. Im 28 years old from Finland. Maybe thats it. Finnish people are usually born to ride anything.