So You Want a Liter Bike... Everything to know about 1000cc Motorcycles
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
00:48 What is a Liter Bike?
1:27 History
2:48 Bore & Stroke
4:29 Power
5:04 Ergonomics
5:41 Use Cases
6:07 Examples of Liter Bikes
6:21 Kawasaki ZX-10R
7:24 Yamaha R1
7:53 Euro Bikes
8:01 BMW S100RR
8:37 Ducati Models
10:17 Kawasaki Models
10:36 Sport Touring Bikes
11:55 Naked Bikes
12:27 Other Options
13:05 Final Thoughts - ตลก
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“How long” you’ve ridden is determined by how much you ride each day, how diverse your riding is, etc. Has very little to do with how many years you’ve ridden. I know a lot of guys that have ridden for 25 years and probably have ridden around 10,000 miles. I do that easily in under a year. Not much question which of us has more “motorcycle experience”.
@@someoneelse1i1i was gonna say, i'm 19 but have hit about 30k miles on a motorcycle, after riding for about a year and a bit. Surprisingly have alot more experience and just as much experience as many people out there including older people. as many people don't ride much, and people who only ride when the sun is out lack a lot of riding knowledge and experience as the all weather riders.
@@thegamingalex3947 Exactly. You’re having more fun too!😊
lets forget SPEED TRIPLE 1200 RS even exists
im just sayin. do you, but: you know you cant run a lottery right? you have to have a "free" way to enter. someone somewhere gonna bust you for that. be careful bud. youre a nice dude.
This has actually convinced me to go for a 1000-SX instead of a ZX10r.. thank you Yam
I have a 2014 model. Its amazing. You wont be dissapointed. And you will be faster than most things you encounter on the roads. Both in straight line and in the twisties.
I traded in my Versys 650 for a 1000sx 4k miles ago. I wish I could have them both at the same time but i love my 1000sx.
any bike a good fam i love both of those bikes!! just what u comfy on
Noooooo!!! As a zx10r owner go for the zx10 bro bro you won't be disappointed 😂😂
@@robmuhfacka5986that shit heavy son.
“I’ll get a liter bike soon I promise bro”
One year later on an H2
100 Boom👊🏾
Skip that I hear the v8 boss hoss is good starter bike
@@jasmine66666666 tossing up between that or a turbo busa obviously
Gen 2 FZ1 is the answer my dudes
I’ve had 14 bikes over the last 45 years. Third one was my first litre bike. Buy them and ride the shit out of em while your body can fold up like a pretzel. Over the years I worked my way down in cc. Now my Tuono 660 factory is all this 64 yr old needs. Lol
Oh, fear not, there are plenty of liter bikes out there now that don't require pretzeling. :) I have a S1000XR, it's very comfortable for long rides, even with a blown out L4/L5 like all us old guys seem to have. Same engine as a S1000R, just a diffferent tune. It's a monster.
I’m all about the pure liter bike lifestyle (2020zx10). I’m so used to it doesn’t even feel like a crotch rocket to me anymore. Also the occasional track day makes it all worth it
Got ya. I ride a VFR800 vtec and want to upgrade to a liter bike. I don't seem to care too much about the aggressive body position.
@@Sibert_ I had a ninja650 before the ZX and that was a massive difference in ergonomics. you totally get used to it after a few weeks tho. I'm not trying to drive more than an hour or two at a time tho.
the liter bikes in my opinion have a more planted feeling.
More power ! I am 61 years old , have been riding for 45 years and and still dreaming of a used H2SX SE. My Concours 14 has been great for 10 years , but I still want to have some fun. Thank you for your very entertaining videos. Ride safe.
61? Damn man ride safe out there 🏍️💨
I’ve been riding since 1977 and have owned about 20 bikes but my fav of them all is my 2004 GSXR600 which I find perfect for the street. I love the riding position because it keeps your core strong if you do it right as well as the power band. It’s more then anyone could ever need on the road. My 2nd fav is the 1985 RZ350. I guess you could say I’m the oldest squid ever 😂
Ive been riding since 1895, my fav bike is the bullshido v6 r1 250 motorshitbike.
You are right. My 1000 is uncomfortable, will never utilize 5 of the 6 gears, to much power for anyone on a bike. Love it though!
😂 same here
Got a gen1 S1000RR, first bike, love it and 7k+ miles later I ain’t planning on ever getting rid of it!
These videos are the perfect mix of entertaining and informational. So well done.
Liter bikes are somewhat like a Hellcat engine compared to a BMW M3 engine. I personally like how most liter bikes tend to be not as “high strung” compared to 750’s and 600’s. My Bimota YB6 EXUP (has a FZR1000 engine) cruises at only 3000 rpm at typical highway speeds.
I’ve had plenty of miles on both a 600rr and fz1. They both have a special place in my heart. Between the two (or modern day equivalent) I would go with something like the 1000sx. Power is easily accessible. And the riding position is a little more friendly for the street.
I like speed just as well, but I prefer street rides over track, so about 600cc is the limit for my pleasure ride on the road 😊
Oh, “liter”, not leader. In my defense, everyone who says liter sounds like they’re saying leader.
Going from a ST675R to a full size 2019 Suzuki Katana I can attest that litre bikes are on another level. After riding it for about three months I took a friend’s triple for a ride and it felt like riding a bicycle. Truly scary stuff man.
Lmaoo awesome!
Brilliant video Man, information overload right on Queue and fantastically executed, it was like having a quick shifter, bang next gear, bang next gear etc fantastic ❤❤
Lol. Beginning to like you more and more. My friends always ask me why I’m not buying a “bigger” bike and stick to 6-7cc class. You said it perfectly
I tried an Aprilia Tuono V4 a few weeks ago and I was left in absolute awe of the machine. It lifted my front wheel in 230 kph in 5th... I immediately wanted one, but honestly, riding my KTM 790 Duke lets me use all the gears and is super quick and agile, it's absolutely made for twisties. I love going into a curve and quick-shifting down 2 gears to stay in the proper revs, feeling the rear wheel move a little, etc. I feel like the Tuono would just feel too much of a bike for the twisty roads I love to do. Like I wouldn't need another gear, wouldn't matter what riding mode I'm in, whatever. It's just too refined. But I absolutely get why people have them. And this is not even a proper sports bike.
curb your feels, brah
i absolutely agree.. you have to overdo it quite a bit to use some of the potential of a liter bike which i have for track use but for twisties i have a ducati 848 evo with lots uf upgrades and it pushes around 140hp i guess. and even restricted with 35kw i smoke like 90% of the riders in black forest germany. you dont need that much power to be quick :D and it always feels nice as you say to be able to push the bike
Nah stop lying, doesn't have the torque to lift your wheel up at 230kmh lol.
@@fs5866 Well, suddenly a stretch of road that has appeared flat for the entirety of my life became a crest... The front wheel was in the air for sure, but not by much obviously. I'm not lying in the least.
Sold my 21‘ 1290 Super Duke R last month for a Brand new Tuono v4 1100 Factory and it is Great but the 1290 Super Duke R is on another Level when it comes to pure power and torque
Thanks for helping me decide on a Ninja 1000sx!❤
I agree. My Gen 2 Busa is my first bike. Everyone said I would die, but I would have physically been unable to get onto a 300-700cc bike comfortably. Being older and having a healthy respect for her ability to kill me. I daily ride her in full gear, even in this 105° Texas heat.
For sure, it's like owning a saltwater crocodile. A magnificent creature, get careless and it will eat you.
yeah but she's a busa
Keep bussin my g😎👍
@@russcattell955ilove your analogy 😂🏆🏆
This was a hell of a fine produced video. Bravo Papa Yam. Why do I have a hankering for a classic Kawasaki 1000 with a Kerker four into one, bright chrome exhaust echoing off the hills. Mad Max lives.
I just got my first litre bike after a decade on two different ZX636R´s. I bought a KTM super duke 990. which is a 999cc V Twin. I gotta say, Im in freaking love with this bike. I bought a 2005 model which has no bells and whistles, no fancy ride modes or ABS, just pure raw old school biking goodness. Its just as nimble in the twisties as the 636's Ive owned but at high speeds is somewhat terrifying. 100mph really feels like 100mph as the wind drag is something that you dont get with the aerodynamics of the sport bikes. Also it purrs like a kitten at 70mph on the highway. Im in freaking love.
I went from my CBR500R to a 2008 CBR1000RR… quite a difference but at the end of the day, a bike is a bike - litre bikes just pull in any gear and some people want that rather than having to rev out a smaller engine.
Litre bikes are for people who don't want to downshift to get power
@@rocketfludy2873I love downshifting and shifting at 13k 😍
Also goes the other way, some people probably want to rev out a smaller engine and squeeze out every last bit of power from it
How long did it take you to get confident riding your 1000RR? I have a 4RR I’ve been riding for two months. My plan is to learn how to ride for one riding season, then upgrade to a S1K. Only reason I’m debating is because I heard if you put it in rain mode, it’ll bump it down to 130HP which is similar to a 600cc
@@tiger2q a 4rr is a great bike to get used to sports bikes on. Going from anything less than a 600 to a 1000cc is always going to be a big jump, there’s guys on 600s who get scared on 1000s but it really depends what you are like. If you gradually get used to revving a 1000 out and learn bit by bit you’ll be okay, if you have no self control you’ll potentially die. If you’re unsure at all - I would go to a 600 first as it wouldn’t disappoint and is more realistic to get used to.
I'm not old enough to have a motorcycle, but these videos are still entertaining. Yammie really is the only one who can do this.
That's not possible. Should've started riding at 5
@@proudtitanicdenier43003* as soon as legs work
I didnt have a license, a friend of mine and Yammie made me get it and get a hornet 919 in like 6 months timespan :D
I got my first one before age 10!?
@@LucaHornsby I no joke was driving down the highway by that age, but my grandpa was operating the foot pedals because obviously I wasn't tall enough (which means I was probably speeding, because one of his mottos was "I don't drive for fuel economy, I drive to get there", also he was burned when he was a small child so he didn't have much feeling in his legs or feet so he was usually full gas or full brakes, sometimes both at the same time because again he didn't have much feeling in his legs).
Started on a K6 GSXR 1000 with no riding experience. Was absolute madness! Loved every minute though😅
Lol, I started on a K5 GSXR 1000 three months ago, that thing can make me smile like nothing else on this world.
started on a GSXR1000K9 and have found myself downgrading CCs ever since and having way more fun
I started on a yamaha RSX 100 about 25 years ago and worked my way up through the years. Gotta say Im super glad I started on that little bike when I was 17 as I had numerous mishaps due to inexperience that would have left me dead or maimed if I was on a bigger bike. Currently 41 years old and rocking a Super Duke 990
So just a question can everyone choose 1000cc has there first beginner bike?
this is such an honest spot on video that will only be apparent when you are no longer a nubby
I have had V-Strom 1000 and V-Strom 650. The 1000 is actualy easier in city traffic, because the hydraulic clutch take less effort than the cable-operated clutch on the 650. Both of them could do very high speeds out of town, more than I ever needed. The 1000 had problems with the helium-filled front tyre in first and second gears, though.
I'm still rocking a 2015 MV Agusta F4. It brings a smile to my face, I live in Australia and there aren't that many about, so I've seen it bring a smile to passer buys as well.
Had a gen 2 and gen 3 mt09, a gsxs gt for a few months, now hove a 2004 fireblade and absolutely love it, and riding position isn't half as bad as modern litre bikes
Best Explanation Ever.
Just Coped That R1M😜
Love the content
I jumped straight to a liter bike with no previous riding experience. No dirt bikes no four wheelers. After a month I was bored, started upgrading. Moore Mafia Flash, Akrapovic full system, Carbon smith velocity stacks, Graves block offs, Brock’s ceramic bearings, -1 -1 sprockets 520 RK 1200 chain. Only owned it for a year with 16.8k miles. You can start on a bigger bike if you understand an respect what it can do
That's great, man. Sometimes, it is that simple. As long as you respect its power and know your limits, you'll be fine.
@@ColdDream224exactly, just because you can twist the throttle all the way back doesn't mean you should.
I had a letter to Motorcyclist published about 2004 with the same sentiment. The editors disagreed with me, but the point was to respect how much power whether it is 600/750/1000 all of them are lethal if you do not respect them, and with the right attitude having 150 hp is OK.
Yeah I wasted a lot of money doing the 600rr to 750, back to Honda 1000RR. I should have skipped the 750 I didn’t like that bike much. Honda is just my fit.
Bored after a month lol I dont believe that for a second. Show us how you ride it I'm sure we'll have a nice laugh.
Cb650R one of the best bikes I have ever owned. Pushing it to its Max is viable fun, and one of the best handling bikes I have rode. Loved my cbr1000rr but there is a reason. I would rather have the cb650r. As Sir Noob says you really don't need 1000 cc.
My 1090 Brutale with 150 hp and 0 electronics is all I need.🥰 The best sound Aprilia , the best looks and exclusivity MV.
I’ve got a 2022 Suzuki GSXS1000 and I love how comfortable it is. Also had the SX1000 , would get another one miss a readable display and the electronic cruise and fairings. Last one got wrecked by a deer, I did die temporarily it sucked)
Thank you for including Tarrare at the end of the vid, his story is one of my favorites from history lol
For those who want to know more, he eventually joined the French Revolutionary Army and his unique ability was used to smuggle vital information past enemy lines. He was given a letter in a small wooden box to eat, and after reaching the point of delivery the box was then retrieved from his excrement. He was eventually admitted to a mental institution where they would attempt to cure him, until he literally ATE A 14 MONTH CHILD... and then they exiled him.
I have a Triumph sprint ST 1050, 06 reg. I've had it over 13 yrs now and i find it's just right for me, commuting for work ALL yr round, trips out or just to the shops n back. it can be steady/gentle riding or a blast if i feel like it, nowt wrong with a big engine! : ))
I love my 2021 ninja 1000sx. Can beat cruise control!
I bought my first street bike 5 months ago, a KTM 390 ADV. A couple weeks later I bought a Ducati SCRAMBLER 803 cc air cooled. Lots of fun. A couple weeks later I bought a Ducati Diavel 1260S. Ooh Laa Laa..... the torque and the power curve of that engine are addicting. The key to riding ANY motorcycle is to first learn how to control the throttle and how to control the clutch. I learned about 15 years ago by riding single track dirt trail in the desert around Phoenix for 4 years. Once you master the clutch and throttle, no bike is dangerous or intimidating to ride.
The only thing better than Yammie's writing and production, is the valuable content....or maybe it's the other way around....
Great explanation 🎉🎉🎉
One of my favorite channels to watch. 😂
Crazy, but loaded with educational material there's only one Yammi in the universe.
Honestly I think that a 1000 makes more sense on the street than a 600 simply because of the torque and low and mid range power 🫠 I have a zx10r as my daily 😅
I totally agree. Don’t have to rev out a liter bike to be in motion.
@@ATL_Rider79yessirrr
yup. 600s are great at speed, but around town they finicky compared to the liters.
@@lgmediapcsalon9440 way more comfortable of a ride tbh
@@robmuhfacka5986the 600 vs the 1000? Depends on the make I guess.
10:18 That's such s cool analog dash lighting.. 🥹
Most entertaining and Informative, you know your stuff .
When the speedo is climbing faster than the tach, you know you're on a beast of a bike.
Awesome content 🇯🇲
Once again yammie giving all of the cons of a liter bike and trying to steer people away because they are so fast yet he has a h2 and a turbo hayabusa. Sorry yam we are all so happy for you to remind us that only you are capable of having such a bike on the street with your less than a decade of riding 😂😂
I'm glad I'm not the only one that shares this sentiment. 😂
"Do as I say, not as I do"
My exact thought like bru talk about contradiction
“I have two of these bikes and have owned tens of smaller displacement bikes and I see these as inferior even though they have more power because I can’t leave first gear but can make it to third on a 300.”
And somehow y’all think he’s just bashing 1000cc bikes. Lmao
I've got a 09 zx10r from a 2001 KTM620cc supermoto, mental difference but ya know we out here pushing boundaries
Facts I had a z400, best beginner bike. Now a happy owner of a z900 is of last week:)
I got myself an RSV4 recently and changed the sprocket for a lower gearing. Still, I'm looking forward to spending some days at the track next year.
As Beginner bike ?
This convinced me to get an s1k as my first bike thanks yamski 😅
I bought a 21' 1000 cubes gsxr. I did not regret.
I traded in my 2018 Versys 650 for a 2023 1000sx 4k miles ago. Love the 1000sx but wish I still had both bikes (can't afford that). Yammie talks bad about the Versys but I disagree, it was a great bike,,, I had to trade it in because it was rebuilt after a wreck and then got flooded and repaired again but it was never the same, it was like... anemic, didn't want to go to full power... I miss her though... going weird places, up down curbs and stairs and it would always do little mini wheelies when leaving red lights,,, it way sicker than Yammie makes them out to be. The 1000sx has a traction nanny that keeps me feeling "mature and responsible" out there. All in all though,,, I love them both.
G'afternoon ☕☕ 🤠 . I'm an 80's kid & a bike junkie. I've ridden & owned more bikes over the last 30+ yrs than car's & trucks 10 fold. I had an 07' YZF-R1p I rode for 3 seasons & I loved it b4 I went back to cruisers & my 01' Roadstar XV-1600A 98" Thumper 🙃 ..
Honestly the evolution of this channel through the years is remarkable. Love ya Pappa Yams
I bought the Suzuki GSX 8R a month ago, even put the full Akrapovic exhaust on it, got the ecu flashed by TST Industries. I sold it back to the dealership and got the Ninja ZX10R.
For over 20 years I’ve had multiple CBRs, but today, I wanted something more! In Louisville KY where I’m at there’s not any tracks close to here, but I want to get into track days with this bike :)
I have a 2016 r1 and aprilia rsv4 and recently bought a 2017 fz10 and boy let me tell you….best bike iver ridden
My ZX14R is perfect for the streets and has 113 ft lbs of torque. It's comfortable, to me it looks good, and on the highway, it makes you feel like a king. I wouldn't mind an MT-10, maybe next year. Most of the people who ride 600cc Supersport motorcycles in my area, plan on moving up to liters, one person who I rode with promptly was nearly killed after getting a used R1, the power is definitely a rush, I could ride my ZX14R just on the freeway and be content although I take it out into the twisties where it doesn't do too bad.
Add handlebar risers and a 190/55 for the rear tire. Only good things will ensue
Then swap out the footpegs. Ive got Puig racing pegs and i drag my boots thru the curves and they dont slip/squish in the least
I have a 02 Cbr954rr it's the weight of a 600 with just under 160hp and 72ft tq. Great Bike and arguably the best fireblade ever built.
any blade from 08 and up would disagree.
Nice video dude 😁👍
Nice work, had litre rockets for years. - on track days they make sense and about the right power but on the road, especially with the latest 200 bhp bikes there to much but still you gotta have them. Currently got a V4R and Zx10R.
First bike was an 02 900 ninja,,,,,it was a ridiculously fast fun as hell bike,,,once you go fast the first time it's instantly addictive
Been rockin my s1000 for over a decade now. Still love it. I do want the handlebar warmers and cruise control. That 4k vibration cuts right into my bones.
Dude, I know exactly what you mean with that 4k vibration.
Thnks. I was gonna get a newer 750 but now I’m getting a used R1😎
Just got my Kawasaki ninja 1000 sx. Its a 2018. I jumped from a ktm duke 390. I was suprised how nervious I am on this bike. I think its just the size. My duke was so small. . Love the bike. Just waiting to be comfortable on it like I was on my previous bike.
I had an '08 CBR1000rr, and unexpectedly traded it in for a '19 Ninja 1000sx during covid, and I gotta say I'm a lot happier. 85% of the performance, and I can ride it all day.
jokes on you yammie, got myselfe a HP4 this year
I ride a Street Triple and it’s fun as hell reving out and going through twisties. But I still plan to upgrade to a liter bike before I get too old and we can no longer bout them in 5-10 years because of all of these new restrictions. I wish I could 2-3 bikes at once. Lol
Excellent background music!
My dad wanted to upgrade. He sold me his 2012 ZX14 with full bolt ons for $3000.
first time on a motorcycle outside of the Honda 300R I rode when I took my motorcycle class.
Personally, I don't think 1000cc or 1400s are too much for a beginner. You can easily start on these types of bikes with self control.
My dad always told me growing up, "1000s are like guns".
IMHO, 1000s, big liter sport bikes are bragging rights more than anything. You can never really use this kind of power on the street, without getting in huge trouble.
They're not good if you wanna actually learn how to ride fast
Nothing better than a mid 2000s liter bike for that raw analog experience
Just recently acquired a 02 fz1 as my first bike. Totally amazing.
My teachers were Freddy Spencer. Eddie Lawson, Kevin Shwanzte etc:) 1st rule: Respect the craft that you love. In return, she will love you back:) I still want to ride just for once in my lifetime, the TT:)
The first time I hear an RC51 I thought I was getting passed by a Harley on steroids. I absolutely adore retro bikes and that's next on my list for that growl
Sport touring bikes are all fun and games but you’ll always lust after the liter bike. My first bike was an r1 I’ve owned 5 other bikes since, and still find myself missing the rush of speed but married life has made it so it’s not with the fight to have one lol
Once again, Thanks!
I’m low key convinced to get a sport touring now
i went from a ss to a st back to a ss. Make sure you try it out for a bit before dumping the money on one. Don't waste your money like i did.
I bought a liter bike for my first bike back in 1983. I respected the bike and got lucky to not ever have an accident. I wouldn't rec 3:59 ommend a 1000 cc bike for a beginner though... Suzuki GS 1000S.
I don't understand people who say liters are fine for beginners... like wtf? That's like getting an indycar without the cage for a a first car.
My first bike is a 2019 R1. Just bought it 3 weeks ago.
I had a 21 fireblade and went to an R7. Love liter bikes but I guess I’ve done some maturing a realized going fast isn’t everything and I’ve had so much fun on my R7. It’s lighter and a lot more fun in twistes and the track. Yeah the straight line isn’t there but it does everything else better imo.
I rode 600s for my first season and this weekend I'm finally getting a 2016 r1 I'm honestly scared shitless
As a humble superduke rider I support it as a starting bike
Thanks!
Got an answer on first seconds
Stick with my 2003 cbr600rr for now. It's everything I need for the street but may look into a new fireblade for the track soon.
i go for a massive twisty road loop every weekend and i barely see any sports bikes here in aus, basically harleys naked and the big adventure bikes
Worked my way up started with a MT07 (700cc) then MT09SP (900cc) and my First Liter Bike S1000r with came with 22 years
After that the 1290 Super Duke R came and I kept it the longest for Like 3 years After replacing it for a smaller cc Bike a 23‘ Tuono V4 Factory 1100cc
I am working on a Monster 620.
An S4R came up for a very nice price.
I could not resist and got it and put it in the garage.
I am giving myself a year on the 620.
Am I sick, MAYBE :
I've put 10k miles on a gsxr1k since march 16th i enjoy it ❤
I just bought a litre bike and Its awesome. Definitely think 600's are the perfect displacement tho.
I love my Kwaka Z1000, I commute on her all week and tear it up on the weekends.
SDK 3.0 is a mind blowing bike 🤘
one of my bikes is a Kawasaki ZZR 1100 and at 30 years old is still scary quick.
Ever since buying my 2007 April RSVR, I haven't felt the need to upgrade my sports-bike. I have added a commuter and a hypermotard to the collection tho . . .
I loved my 04 R1, But it was so impractical. It was only comfortable to ride at 100 plus mph and it didn’t really start making power until you got closer to that number. Coming from the dirt bike world, supermotos have been way more fun
i got a N1k .. . i love it !
Cuz I Got to Go Fast !!!😂😂 Ur Awesome
Would love to see a review of the 2023 Honda XR150L.
Got a GSX S1000. Amazing machine.
Beginners: Liter bikes looks like a fun toy.
Intermediates: Liter bikes are not toys.
Advanced: Liter bikes are toys.