@user-sj2zy3rp2p “How long” you’ve ridden is determined by how much you ride each day, how diverse your riding is, etc. Has very little to do with how many years you’ve ridden. I know a lot of guys that have ridden for 25 years and probably have ridden around 10,000 miles. I do that easily in under a year. Not much question which of us has more “motorcycle experience”.
@@someoneelse1i1i was gonna say, i'm 19 but have hit about 30k miles on a motorcycle, after riding for about a year and a bit. Surprisingly have alot more experience and just as much experience as many people out there including older people. as many people don't ride much, and people who only ride when the sun is out lack a lot of riding knowledge and experience as the all weather riders.
im just sayin. do you, but: you know you cant run a lottery right? you have to have a "free" way to enter. someone somewhere gonna bust you for that. be careful bud. youre a nice dude.
I’ve had 14 bikes over the last 45 years. Third one was my first litre bike. Buy them and ride the shit out of em while your body can fold up like a pretzel. Over the years I worked my way down in cc. Now my Tuono 660 factory is all this 64 yr old needs. Lol
Oh, fear not, there are plenty of liter bikes out there now that don't require pretzeling. :) I have a S1000XR, it's very comfortable for long rides, even with a blown out L4/L5 like all us old guys seem to have. Same engine as a S1000R, just a diffferent tune. It's a monster.
I have a 2014 model. Its amazing. You wont be dissapointed. And you will be faster than most things you encounter on the roads. Both in straight line and in the twisties.
More power ! I am 61 years old , have been riding for 45 years and and still dreaming of a used H2SX SE. My Concours 14 has been great for 10 years , but I still want to have some fun. Thank you for your very entertaining videos. Ride safe.
The problem with a concours is you don’t have many other options to best it that are practical!! I’m kinda in that boat too. Am thinking of a 750 for flicking in the twisties for fun.
I’m all about the pure liter bike lifestyle (2020zx10). I’m so used to it doesn’t even feel like a crotch rocket to me anymore. Also the occasional track day makes it all worth it
@@Sibert_ I had a ninja650 before the ZX and that was a massive difference in ergonomics. you totally get used to it after a few weeks tho. I'm not trying to drive more than an hour or two at a time tho.
I’ve been riding since 1977 and have owned about 20 bikes but my fav of them all is my 2004 GSXR600 which I find perfect for the street. I love the riding position because it keeps your core strong if you do it right as well as the power band. It’s more then anyone could ever need on the road. My 2nd fav is the 1985 RZ350. I guess you could say I’m the oldest squid ever 😂
Liter bikes are somewhat like a Hellcat engine compared to a BMW M3 engine. I personally like how most liter bikes tend to be not as “high strung” compared to 750’s and 600’s. My Bimota YB6 EXUP (has a FZR1000 engine) cruises at only 3000 rpm at typical highway speeds.
How did you find the s1k as your first bike? I’m thinking of getting something bigger than a ninja 400 for my first bike and I’ve heard a lot of people say the s1000 is super easy to ride. Did you have any riding experience before that?
Yam's hatred of the S1000RR is just stupid. I've a ZX-10R, an MT-09 and a S1000RR and the RR is the most fun to ride ever. What he calls boring I call well engineered and, if you are not a track, that's what allows you to do really, really crazy things on a bike and live to tell about it. To be honest, 2nd - 3rd gear at 10K RPM was one of the most incredible adrenaline rushes ever.... My back is too old to ride hunched over like that, but it was the best bike....my MT-09SP that I traded down to feels like a scooter by comparison.
I tried an Aprilia Tuono V4 a few weeks ago and I was left in absolute awe of the machine. It lifted my front wheel in 230 kph in 5th... I immediately wanted one, but honestly, riding my KTM 790 Duke lets me use all the gears and is super quick and agile, it's absolutely made for twisties. I love going into a curve and quick-shifting down 2 gears to stay in the proper revs, feeling the rear wheel move a little, etc. I feel like the Tuono would just feel too much of a bike for the twisty roads I love to do. Like I wouldn't need another gear, wouldn't matter what riding mode I'm in, whatever. It's just too refined. But I absolutely get why people have them. And this is not even a proper sports bike.
i absolutely agree.. you have to overdo it quite a bit to use some of the potential of a liter bike which i have for track use but for twisties i have a ducati 848 evo with lots uf upgrades and it pushes around 140hp i guess. and even restricted with 35kw i smoke like 90% of the riders in black forest germany. you dont need that much power to be quick :D and it always feels nice as you say to be able to push the bike
@@fs5866 Well, suddenly a stretch of road that has appeared flat for the entirety of my life became a crest... The front wheel was in the air for sure, but not by much obviously. I'm not lying in the least.
Sold my 21‘ 1290 Super Duke R last month for a Brand new Tuono v4 1100 Factory and it is Great but the 1290 Super Duke R is on another Level when it comes to pure power and torque
I just got my first litre bike after a decade on two different ZX636R´s. I bought a KTM super duke 990. which is a 999cc V Twin. I gotta say, Im in freaking love with this bike. I bought a 2005 model which has no bells and whistles, no fancy ride modes or ABS, just pure raw old school biking goodness. Its just as nimble in the twisties as the 636's Ive owned but at high speeds is somewhat terrifying. 100mph really feels like 100mph as the wind drag is something that you dont get with the aerodynamics of the sport bikes. Also it purrs like a kitten at 70mph on the highway. Im in freaking love.
Going from a ST675R to a full size 2019 Suzuki Katana I can attest that litre bikes are on another level. After riding it for about three months I took a friend’s triple for a ride and it felt like riding a bicycle. Truly scary stuff man.
I went from my CBR500R to a 2008 CBR1000RR… quite a difference but at the end of the day, a bike is a bike - litre bikes just pull in any gear and some people want that rather than having to rev out a smaller engine.
How long did it take you to get confident riding your 1000RR? I have a 4RR I’ve been riding for two months. My plan is to learn how to ride for one riding season, then upgrade to a S1K. Only reason I’m debating is because I heard if you put it in rain mode, it’ll bump it down to 130HP which is similar to a 600cc
@@tiger2q a 4rr is a great bike to get used to sports bikes on. Going from anything less than a 600 to a 1000cc is always going to be a big jump, there’s guys on 600s who get scared on 1000s but it really depends what you are like. If you gradually get used to revving a 1000 out and learn bit by bit you’ll be okay, if you have no self control you’ll potentially die. If you’re unsure at all - I would go to a 600 first as it wouldn’t disappoint and is more realistic to get used to.
I’ve had plenty of miles on both a 600rr and fz1. They both have a special place in my heart. Between the two (or modern day equivalent) I would go with something like the 1000sx. Power is easily accessible. And the riding position is a little more friendly for the street.
@@LucaHornsby I no joke was driving down the highway by that age, but my grandpa was operating the foot pedals because obviously I wasn't tall enough (which means I was probably speeding, because one of his mottos was "I don't drive for fuel economy, I drive to get there", also he was burned when he was a small child so he didn't have much feeling in his legs or feet so he was usually full gas or full brakes, sometimes both at the same time because again he didn't have much feeling in his legs).
Just got my Kawasaki ninja 1000 sx. Its a 2018. I jumped from a ktm duke 390. I was suprised how nervious I am on this bike. I think its just the size. My duke was so small. . Love the bike. Just waiting to be comfortable on it like I was on my previous bike.
I agree. My Gen 2 Busa is my first bike. Everyone said I would die, but I would have physically been unable to get onto a 300-700cc bike comfortably. Being older and having a healthy respect for her ability to kill me. I daily ride her in full gear, even in this 105° Texas heat.
My first liter bike i've ridden was a k5 gsx-r 1000...man that was an crazy experience..that was about 14years ago.. .(i've been riding everything with 2 wheels since i was 13..smaller capacities) but that k5 changed everything
Been rockin my s1000 for over a decade now. Still love it. I do want the handlebar warmers and cruise control. That 4k vibration cuts right into my bones.
As someone who owns both a Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP2 and a Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP I feel I can compare the two. Both are insanely fast, though the Fireblade would absolutely walk away from the Streetfighter in a straight line race. The Streetfighter is WAY more comfortable, I've ridden it for 8+ hours at a time, it's super flickable and just evokes hooligan vibes every time I swing a leg. The Fireblade on the other hand has the handling of a well sorted race machine, has seriously committed ergonomics, and after 8 hours on it my hips are killing me. All that being said, both bikes will let you warp space and time with nothing but your right wrist. The V4 sings the choir of gods and the Fireblade is just an absolute unit of a machine that wants to melt my face and get me arrested just for looking at it.
This was a hell of a fine produced video. Bravo Papa Yam. Why do I have a hankering for a classic Kawasaki 1000 with a Kerker four into one, bright chrome exhaust echoing off the hills. Mad Max lives.
Thank you for including Tarrare at the end of the vid, his story is one of my favorites from history lol For those who want to know more, he eventually joined the French Revolutionary Army and his unique ability was used to smuggle vital information past enemy lines. He was given a letter in a small wooden box to eat, and after reaching the point of delivery the box was then retrieved from his excrement. He was eventually admitted to a mental institution where they would attempt to cure him, until he literally ATE A 14 MONTH CHILD... and then they exiled him.
I have had V-Strom 1000 and V-Strom 650. The 1000 is actualy easier in city traffic, because the hydraulic clutch take less effort than the cable-operated clutch on the 650. Both of them could do very high speeds out of town, more than I ever needed. The 1000 had problems with the helium-filled front tyre in first and second gears, though.
Doesnt matter that you dont need the full power of a liter bike on the road…the acceleration/getup cannot be replicated in a 600 or lower. And trust me…that shit matters in fun factor
I’ve got a 2022 Suzuki GSXS1000 and I love how comfortable it is. Also had the SX1000 , would get another one miss a readable display and the electronic cruise and fairings. Last one got wrecked by a deer, I did die temporarily it sucked)
I'm still rocking a 2015 MV Agusta F4. It brings a smile to my face, I live in Australia and there aren't that many about, so I've seen it bring a smile to passer buys as well.
As a rider and motorcycle mechanic for over 40 years now I love your content and the information given. I'm 61 now and have just sold my 2008 Buell 1125R in favor of a 2023 SV 650. I still get the sweet sound of a modern Sport V-Twin and great handling but much better ergonomics for my aging body. I totally agree with the message in this video about litre bikes and their allure but in practicality they're waaay too overpowered for 99% of us riders, It's dangerous enough out there without having to contend with the hyperspeeds these bikes are capable of without a complete understanding of counter-steering and braking. That being said...be careful out there ; )
I jumped straight to a liter bike with no previous riding experience. No dirt bikes no four wheelers. After a month I was bored, started upgrading. Moore Mafia Flash, Akrapovic full system, Carbon smith velocity stacks, Graves block offs, Brock’s ceramic bearings, -1 -1 sprockets 520 RK 1200 chain. Only owned it for a year with 16.8k miles. You can start on a bigger bike if you understand an respect what it can do
I had a letter to Motorcyclist published about 2004 with the same sentiment. The editors disagreed with me, but the point was to respect how much power whether it is 600/750/1000 all of them are lethal if you do not respect them, and with the right attitude having 150 hp is OK.
Yeah I wasted a lot of money doing the 600rr to 750, back to Honda 1000RR. I should have skipped the 750 I didn’t like that bike much. Honda is just my fit.
I started on a yamaha RSX 100 about 25 years ago and worked my way up through the years. Gotta say Im super glad I started on that little bike when I was 17 as I had numerous mishaps due to inexperience that would have left me dead or maimed if I was on a bigger bike. Currently 41 years old and rocking a Super Duke 990
I traded in my 2018 Versys 650 for a 2023 1000sx 4k miles ago. Love the 1000sx but wish I still had both bikes (can't afford that). Yammie talks bad about the Versys but I disagree, it was a great bike,,, I had to trade it in because it was rebuilt after a wreck and then got flooded and repaired again but it was never the same, it was like... anemic, didn't want to go to full power... I miss her though... going weird places, up down curbs and stairs and it would always do little mini wheelies when leaving red lights,,, it way sicker than Yammie makes them out to be. The 1000sx has a traction nanny that keeps me feeling "mature and responsible" out there. All in all though,,, I love them both.
My ZX14R is perfect for the streets and has 113 ft lbs of torque. It's comfortable, to me it looks good, and on the highway, it makes you feel like a king. I wouldn't mind an MT-10, maybe next year. Most of the people who ride 600cc Supersport motorcycles in my area, plan on moving up to liters, one person who I rode with promptly was nearly killed after getting a used R1, the power is definitely a rush, I could ride my ZX14R just on the freeway and be content although I take it out into the twisties where it doesn't do too bad.
Love the channel. I owned a 2008 ZX10 and that bike kicked my ass on a daily basis but I’m more a street squid than a track one. Loving the modern nakeds.
Going from an r6 to r1 I have to say the r1 is much easier to ride in the city when it ain’t hot out and I ride it more responsibly. Puts the fear of God in you.
Cb650R one of the best bikes I have ever owned. Pushing it to its Max is viable fun, and one of the best handling bikes I have rode. Loved my cbr1000rr but there is a reason. I would rather have the cb650r. As Sir Noob says you really don't need 1000 cc.
I bought a liter bike for my first bike back in 1983. I respected the bike and got lucky to not ever have an accident. I wouldn't rec 3:59 ommend a 1000 cc bike for a beginner though... Suzuki GS 1000S.
I had an '08 CBR1000rr, and unexpectedly traded it in for a '19 Ninja 1000sx during covid, and I gotta say I'm a lot happier. 85% of the performance, and I can ride it all day.
I bought the Suzuki GSX 8R a month ago, even put the full Akrapovic exhaust on it, got the ecu flashed by TST Industries. I sold it back to the dealership and got the Ninja ZX10R. For over 20 years I’ve had multiple CBRs, but today, I wanted something more! In Louisville KY where I’m at there’s not any tracks close to here, but I want to get into track days with this bike :)
My dad wanted to upgrade. He sold me his 2012 ZX14 with full bolt ons for $3000. first time on a motorcycle outside of the Honda 300R I rode when I took my motorcycle class. Personally, I don't think 1000cc or 1400s are too much for a beginner. You can easily start on these types of bikes with self control. My dad always told me growing up, "1000s are like guns". IMHO, 1000s, big liter sport bikes are bragging rights more than anything. You can never really use this kind of power on the street, without getting in huge trouble.
At 61 yo I’ve considered a street fighter but I just can’t give up my Ducati 1098 that I’ve clocked over 40k miles on. Too much fun to be had with just a twist of the wrist!
I have a Triumph sprint ST 1050, 06 reg. I've had it over 13 yrs now and i find it's just right for me, commuting for work ALL yr round, trips out or just to the shops n back. it can be steady/gentle riding or a blast if i feel like it, nowt wrong with a big engine! : ))
Brilliant video Man, information overload right on Queue and fantastically executed, it was like having a quick shifter, bang next gear, bang next gear etc fantastic ❤❤
I've got a 09 zx10r from a 2001 KTM620cc supermoto, mental difference but ya know we out here pushing boundaries
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i rode many different liter bikes and settled on a 2008 Yamaha FZ 1. Turned out to be the most comfortable good performance and great looking bike. Swapped out the exhaust and added a lower fairing. Enjoyed that bike for 35,000 miles without a problem . Yamaha is very well built and easy to work on. Helped a friend with a Honda cbr1000 and the faring plastics were terrible to work with. Im a Yamaha fan for sure...FZ1 was an Awesome ride!!
Nice work, had litre rockets for years. - on track days they make sense and about the right power but on the road, especially with the latest 200 bhp bikes there to much but still you gotta have them. Currently got a V4R and Zx10R.
Had a gen 2 and gen 3 mt09, a gsxs gt for a few months, now hove a 2004 fireblade and absolutely love it, and riding position isn't half as bad as modern litre bikes
I bought my first street bike 5 months ago, a KTM 390 ADV. A couple weeks later I bought a Ducati SCRAMBLER 803 cc air cooled. Lots of fun. A couple weeks later I bought a Ducati Diavel 1260S. Ooh Laa Laa..... the torque and the power curve of that engine are addicting. The key to riding ANY motorcycle is to first learn how to control the throttle and how to control the clutch. I learned about 15 years ago by riding single track dirt trail in the desert around Phoenix for 4 years. Once you master the clutch and throttle, no bike is dangerous or intimidating to ride.
It depends on previous experience! 1000 cc fits me perfect….. First bike I got was a k1 Gixxer, A year later 1000rr hp4 for the track…. Love em…but demands respect…
Worked my way up started with a MT07 (700cc) then MT09SP (900cc) and my First Liter Bike S1000r with came with 22 years After that the 1290 Super Duke R came and I kept it the longest for Like 3 years After replacing it for a smaller cc Bike a 23‘ Tuono V4 Factory 1100cc
Have a Streetfighter 848 and Street Triple 765 R. Also have a Vespa GTS. Love em all. I don't feel any need or desire for a liter bike. Would like to try one out one day though.
Honestly I think that a 1000 makes more sense on the street than a 600 simply because of the torque and low and mid range power 🫠 I have a zx10r as my daily 😅
I never thought i would say this but their is a thing as too much power on the road. Years ago i raced a full power ranger on a 2018 ZX10R on my tuned MT09 on some twisty country lanes and guess what, he wasnt going any where
I had a 21 fireblade and went to an R7. Love liter bikes but I guess I’ve done some maturing a realized going fast isn’t everything and I’ve had so much fun on my R7. It’s lighter and a lot more fun in twistes and the track. Yeah the straight line isn’t there but it does everything else better imo.
Not all liter bikes are the same. My Z1k makes like 150hp and 81 tq out of a 1043cc. It can definitely put you on your ass if you don't pay attention, but it's way different than the R1s or RSV4s I've ridden
i have ridden cruisers my entire life. today i got on a 2007 honda vfr 800cc holy shit was it a different experience. now i know its nothing compared to what is out there these days but it hauled ass. having said that, i had zero issues with it. really enjoyed my test ride. once i got aclimated to the riding position it was smooth sailing. i think the issue is people who havent ridden and dont have a concept of how to feel out the clutch and throttle is the main issue. someone with experience and respect for bikes could easily hop on a 1000cc and ride with no issue. and i stand by that, you can feel when that front tire is wanting to lift up. back off. you dont just jump on a bike, rev the piss out of it and dump the clutch.
When the triple R Fireblade came out, 650ib raced it against his V4R and the stock bike smoked the slightly modded Ducati. And mind you, it was his friend who piloted the CBR, he rides his own vehicles. 650ib is an established drag racer and track junkie while his friend may not be. Anyways, the Ducati lost in acceleration from from the low end and got smoked in gears 4-6. The Triple R Fireblade also beat his H2 (not his drag H2, his other slightly modified H2) through several launches until 1 good launch wherein it took a while for the H2 to overtake the Honda. To add on that, the US released Triple R is electronically rev and HP limited to comply with noise standards. The Triple R Fireblade also beat a Gen 2 and Gen 3 Hayabusa, albeit both were unmodded and was conducted by another content creator. WSBK Honda suffers from electronics issues and lack of rider talent and retainment. While WSBK supposedly bases their bikes off production bikes, the level of modification may as well make them prototype homologations. Look at the Yamaha WSBK and see how much WSBK are modified. BSB and other Superstock leagues see Fireblade domination and the Isle of Man TT was dominated by as much as 8/10 Hondas in recent years. Laptime records are being broken and rider feedback is beyond positive. The Triple R simply shines the closer it is to stock.
Sport touring bikes are all fun and games but you’ll always lust after the liter bike. My first bike was an r1 I’ve owned 5 other bikes since, and still find myself missing the rush of speed but married life has made it so it’s not with the fight to have one lol
I watch these all the time I still love my 07 ZX10R that I bought to daily an hour one way to work every day. It's such a blast to ride. I want to buy a Rocket 3 soon. Only thing better than 1 liter would be 2
Ever since buying my 2007 April RSVR, I haven't felt the need to upgrade my sports-bike. I have added a commuter and a hypermotard to the collection tho . . .
I’ve thought about it. I can ride that frame geometry backwards. (Oh quick shift. I’d rather die. Ok, we can accommodate.) I can operate crossplane twins on mangled roads, more common to me than clean tracks. And my super ten strokes me rather nicely when her t7 sister doesn’t.
My teachers were Freddy Spencer. Eddie Lawson, Kevin Shwanzte etc:) 1st rule: Respect the craft that you love. In return, she will love you back:) I still want to ride just for once in my lifetime, the TT:)
Got a Vstrom1000 to daily drive to work & it's super nice to have a but more power not necessary the liter bike top speed. She's not slow tho & with those GIVI hard bags on its a little wheelie machine.
Just got my ducati diavel v4 2023, coming from a aprillia rsv4 2020... and tbh is way more useful, I can bring a passanger comfortable, has hard points for bags, has all the tech and still performs ( not at the same level but it's still a beast)... The only bad part about the diavel is the attention it brings,cuz is different from everything in the road, at least here in Portugal
G'afternoon ☕☕ 🤠 . I'm an 80's kid & a bike junkie. I've ridden & owned more bikes over the last 30+ yrs than car's & trucks 10 fold. I had an 07' YZF-R1p I rode for 3 seasons & I loved it b4 I went back to cruisers & my 01' Roadstar XV-1600A 98" Thumper 🙃 ..
Saying a liter bike is too much for the street is the same as saying a v8 corvette or mustang is too much for the street. Sure, you’re not gonna use everything it’s got and push it to its potential, but doesn’t mean you shouldn’t ride/drive one
I have been riding for over 30 years starting with dirt bikes and then street bikes. Ive had a Harley sporty 1200, kawi 636(say la vie), suki 750rr, etc etc and now a Triumph street twin, I have never seen a need for liter bikes. they’re nice but, they’re heavier, slower in all twists and they get worse fuel mileage than a volvo suv… they sound great but, other than for track days, I don’t see their real purpose . just my opinion i think they’re beautiful and technologically advanced but, idk there are better options..
only got 1 litre bike but 3 litre plus, 1100 and 1400 vtvins and il4's sv1000 is a joy to ride not that the others arent but its so light and do the corners like a fly,,, however the torque of the opened up an tuned intruder 1400....
@@pauly1k I mean an S1000RR is like a GSXR 1000 turned all the way to eleven. More power, better brakes, better suspension, much better electronics. Its probably a lot easier to ride fast on track on the BMW. That being said, it will be much more expensive in the long run (servicing premium) as well as a much higher MSRP (so many options on the BMW)
Do yourself a favor and ride them back to back. It's not that the GSX-R isn't capable being blistering fast, but the S1000RR's build quality is on another level.
To compare a gsxr to a bmw what has the world come to 🗿 sure when you tune the sewing machine that is the s1k it might wake up but it’s almost like comparing an iPad to a flip phone all new bikes have tec but when you say gsxr it’s all in the wrist
@@chillwill7401 I wont stand for this GSXR slander put some respect on that GSXR name but really the GSXR 1000 is a great bike. Some would say its great price to performance and reliability. Plus it's the quintessential squid bike. I feel that the S1K RR takes the spirit of the GSXR 1k and adds the German refinement and features that is expected of BMW.
My first street bike was a GSXR1000 and I loved the ease the torque offered . Super easy to drive . With that said ; Yes it very easily will put you over 150mph . You just need to be an adult
My First Bike was a Ninja 626 my Next was a Yamaha R6 and then a Yamaha R1 then got on a Honda CBR600RR and fell in love with it I would like to Try a CBR1000RR at some Point
The whole category of heavy adv dad bikes is missing, although the the Multi Strada is the only 4 cyl. GS, Africa Twin, Super Adventure, Pan America etc.. are all over or around 1000cc.
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“How long” you’ve ridden is determined by how much you ride each day, how diverse your riding is, etc. Has very little to do with how many years you’ve ridden. I know a lot of guys that have ridden for 25 years and probably have ridden around 10,000 miles. I do that easily in under a year. Not much question which of us has more “motorcycle experience”.
@@someoneelse1i1i was gonna say, i'm 19 but have hit about 30k miles on a motorcycle, after riding for about a year and a bit. Surprisingly have alot more experience and just as much experience as many people out there including older people. as many people don't ride much, and people who only ride when the sun is out lack a lot of riding knowledge and experience as the all weather riders.
@@thegamingalex3947 Exactly. You’re having more fun too!😊
lets forget SPEED TRIPLE 1200 RS even exists
im just sayin. do you, but: you know you cant run a lottery right? you have to have a "free" way to enter. someone somewhere gonna bust you for that. be careful bud. youre a nice dude.
Beginners: Liter bikes looks like a fun toy.
Intermediates: Liter bikes are not toys.
Advanced: Liter bikes are toys.
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Exactly
I’ve had 14 bikes over the last 45 years. Third one was my first litre bike. Buy them and ride the shit out of em while your body can fold up like a pretzel. Over the years I worked my way down in cc. Now my Tuono 660 factory is all this 64 yr old needs. Lol
Oh, fear not, there are plenty of liter bikes out there now that don't require pretzeling. :) I have a S1000XR, it's very comfortable for long rides, even with a blown out L4/L5 like all us old guys seem to have. Same engine as a S1000R, just a diffferent tune. It's a monster.
This was the logic I used when picking up my fireblade 😀
This has actually convinced me to go for a 1000-SX instead of a ZX10r.. thank you Yam
I have a 2014 model. Its amazing. You wont be dissapointed. And you will be faster than most things you encounter on the roads. Both in straight line and in the twisties.
I traded in my Versys 650 for a 1000sx 4k miles ago. I wish I could have them both at the same time but i love my 1000sx.
any bike a good fam i love both of those bikes!! just what u comfy on
Noooooo!!! As a zx10r owner go for the zx10 bro bro you won't be disappointed 😂😂
@@robmuhfacka5986that shit heavy son.
“I’ll get a liter bike soon I promise bro”
One year later on an H2
100 Boom👊🏾
Skip that I hear the v8 boss hoss is good starter bike
@@jasmine66666666 tossing up between that or a turbo busa obviously
Gen 2 FZ1 is the answer my dudes
More power ! I am 61 years old , have been riding for 45 years and and still dreaming of a used H2SX SE. My Concours 14 has been great for 10 years , but I still want to have some fun. Thank you for your very entertaining videos. Ride safe.
61? Damn man ride safe out there 🏍️💨
The problem with a concours is you don’t have many other options to best it that are practical!! I’m kinda in that boat too. Am thinking of a 750 for flicking in the twisties for fun.
I’m all about the pure liter bike lifestyle (2020zx10). I’m so used to it doesn’t even feel like a crotch rocket to me anymore. Also the occasional track day makes it all worth it
Got ya. I ride a VFR800 vtec and want to upgrade to a liter bike. I don't seem to care too much about the aggressive body position.
@@Sibert_ I had a ninja650 before the ZX and that was a massive difference in ergonomics. you totally get used to it after a few weeks tho. I'm not trying to drive more than an hour or two at a time tho.
the liter bikes in my opinion have a more planted feeling.
You are right. My 1000 is uncomfortable, will never utilize 5 of the 6 gears, to much power for anyone on a bike. Love it though!
😂 same here
I concur.
I’ve been riding since 1977 and have owned about 20 bikes but my fav of them all is my 2004 GSXR600 which I find perfect for the street. I love the riding position because it keeps your core strong if you do it right as well as the power band. It’s more then anyone could ever need on the road. My 2nd fav is the 1985 RZ350. I guess you could say I’m the oldest squid ever 😂
Ive been riding since 1895, my fav bike is the bullshido v6 r1 250 motorshitbike.
Liter bikes are somewhat like a Hellcat engine compared to a BMW M3 engine. I personally like how most liter bikes tend to be not as “high strung” compared to 750’s and 600’s. My Bimota YB6 EXUP (has a FZR1000 engine) cruises at only 3000 rpm at typical highway speeds.
Got a gen1 S1000RR, first bike, love it and 7k+ miles later I ain’t planning on ever getting rid of it!
How did you find the s1k as your first bike? I’m thinking of getting something bigger than a ninja 400 for my first bike and I’ve heard a lot of people say the s1000 is super easy to ride. Did you have any riding experience before that?
I got one as my second bike, but I was also 32 at the time. It probably shouldn't be your first bike
@@januszgajusz1905 amazing, definitely needs a level of care and maturity but inline 4 are pretty controllable at low to mid revs.
@@edep3970 2 years in and I’m alive, ain’t for everyone but some people can’t ride a 125 so go figure I guess
Yam's hatred of the S1000RR is just stupid. I've a ZX-10R, an MT-09 and a S1000RR and the RR is the most fun to ride ever. What he calls boring I call well engineered and, if you are not a track, that's what allows you to do really, really crazy things on a bike and live to tell about it. To be honest, 2nd - 3rd gear at 10K RPM was one of the most incredible adrenaline rushes ever.... My back is too old to ride hunched over like that, but it was the best bike....my MT-09SP that I traded down to feels like a scooter by comparison.
These videos are the perfect mix of entertaining and informational. So well done.
I tried an Aprilia Tuono V4 a few weeks ago and I was left in absolute awe of the machine. It lifted my front wheel in 230 kph in 5th... I immediately wanted one, but honestly, riding my KTM 790 Duke lets me use all the gears and is super quick and agile, it's absolutely made for twisties. I love going into a curve and quick-shifting down 2 gears to stay in the proper revs, feeling the rear wheel move a little, etc. I feel like the Tuono would just feel too much of a bike for the twisty roads I love to do. Like I wouldn't need another gear, wouldn't matter what riding mode I'm in, whatever. It's just too refined. But I absolutely get why people have them. And this is not even a proper sports bike.
curb your feels, brah
i absolutely agree.. you have to overdo it quite a bit to use some of the potential of a liter bike which i have for track use but for twisties i have a ducati 848 evo with lots uf upgrades and it pushes around 140hp i guess. and even restricted with 35kw i smoke like 90% of the riders in black forest germany. you dont need that much power to be quick :D and it always feels nice as you say to be able to push the bike
Nah stop lying, doesn't have the torque to lift your wheel up at 230kmh lol.
@@fs5866 Well, suddenly a stretch of road that has appeared flat for the entirety of my life became a crest... The front wheel was in the air for sure, but not by much obviously. I'm not lying in the least.
Sold my 21‘ 1290 Super Duke R last month for a Brand new Tuono v4 1100 Factory and it is Great but the 1290 Super Duke R is on another Level when it comes to pure power and torque
I like speed just as well, but I prefer street rides over track, so about 600cc is the limit for my pleasure ride on the road 😊
I just got my first litre bike after a decade on two different ZX636R´s. I bought a KTM super duke 990. which is a 999cc V Twin. I gotta say, Im in freaking love with this bike. I bought a 2005 model which has no bells and whistles, no fancy ride modes or ABS, just pure raw old school biking goodness. Its just as nimble in the twisties as the 636's Ive owned but at high speeds is somewhat terrifying. 100mph really feels like 100mph as the wind drag is something that you dont get with the aerodynamics of the sport bikes. Also it purrs like a kitten at 70mph on the highway. Im in freaking love.
Going from a ST675R to a full size 2019 Suzuki Katana I can attest that litre bikes are on another level. After riding it for about three months I took a friend’s triple for a ride and it felt like riding a bicycle. Truly scary stuff man.
Lmaoo awesome!
I went from my CBR500R to a 2008 CBR1000RR… quite a difference but at the end of the day, a bike is a bike - litre bikes just pull in any gear and some people want that rather than having to rev out a smaller engine.
Litre bikes are for people who don't want to downshift to get power
@@rocketfludy2873I love downshifting and shifting at 13k 😍
Also goes the other way, some people probably want to rev out a smaller engine and squeeze out every last bit of power from it
How long did it take you to get confident riding your 1000RR? I have a 4RR I’ve been riding for two months. My plan is to learn how to ride for one riding season, then upgrade to a S1K. Only reason I’m debating is because I heard if you put it in rain mode, it’ll bump it down to 130HP which is similar to a 600cc
@@tiger2q a 4rr is a great bike to get used to sports bikes on. Going from anything less than a 600 to a 1000cc is always going to be a big jump, there’s guys on 600s who get scared on 1000s but it really depends what you are like. If you gradually get used to revving a 1000 out and learn bit by bit you’ll be okay, if you have no self control you’ll potentially die. If you’re unsure at all - I would go to a 600 first as it wouldn’t disappoint and is more realistic to get used to.
Lol. Beginning to like you more and more. My friends always ask me why I’m not buying a “bigger” bike and stick to 6-7cc class. You said it perfectly
I’ve had plenty of miles on both a 600rr and fz1. They both have a special place in my heart. Between the two (or modern day equivalent) I would go with something like the 1000sx. Power is easily accessible. And the riding position is a little more friendly for the street.
I'm not old enough to have a motorcycle, but these videos are still entertaining. Yammie really is the only one who can do this.
That's not possible. Should've started riding at 5
@@proudtitanicdenier43003* as soon as legs work
I didnt have a license, a friend of mine and Yammie made me get it and get a hornet 919 in like 6 months timespan :D
I got my first one before age 10!?
@@LucaHornsby I no joke was driving down the highway by that age, but my grandpa was operating the foot pedals because obviously I wasn't tall enough (which means I was probably speeding, because one of his mottos was "I don't drive for fuel economy, I drive to get there", also he was burned when he was a small child so he didn't have much feeling in his legs or feet so he was usually full gas or full brakes, sometimes both at the same time because again he didn't have much feeling in his legs).
Watching this while i'm riding my Yamaha R1.
I don't regret anything lmao
Just got my Kawasaki ninja 1000 sx. Its a 2018. I jumped from a ktm duke 390. I was suprised how nervious I am on this bike. I think its just the size. My duke was so small. . Love the bike. Just waiting to be comfortable on it like I was on my previous bike.
I agree. My Gen 2 Busa is my first bike. Everyone said I would die, but I would have physically been unable to get onto a 300-700cc bike comfortably. Being older and having a healthy respect for her ability to kill me. I daily ride her in full gear, even in this 105° Texas heat.
For sure, it's like owning a saltwater crocodile. A magnificent creature, get careless and it will eat you.
yeah but she's a busa
Keep bussin my g😎👍
@@russcattell955ilove your analogy 😂🏆🏆
My first liter bike i've ridden was a k5 gsx-r 1000...man that was an crazy experience..that was about 14years ago.. .(i've been riding everything with 2 wheels since i was 13..smaller capacities) but that k5 changed everything
Been rockin my s1000 for over a decade now. Still love it. I do want the handlebar warmers and cruise control. That 4k vibration cuts right into my bones.
Dude, I know exactly what you mean with that 4k vibration.
As someone who owns both a Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP2 and a Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP I feel I can compare the two. Both are insanely fast, though the Fireblade would absolutely walk away from the Streetfighter in a straight line race. The Streetfighter is WAY more comfortable, I've ridden it for 8+ hours at a time, it's super flickable and just evokes hooligan vibes every time I swing a leg. The Fireblade on the other hand has the handling of a well sorted race machine, has seriously committed ergonomics, and after 8 hours on it my hips are killing me.
All that being said, both bikes will let you warp space and time with nothing but your right wrist. The V4 sings the choir of gods and the Fireblade is just an absolute unit of a machine that wants to melt my face and get me arrested just for looking at it.
This was a hell of a fine produced video. Bravo Papa Yam. Why do I have a hankering for a classic Kawasaki 1000 with a Kerker four into one, bright chrome exhaust echoing off the hills. Mad Max lives.
Thank you for including Tarrare at the end of the vid, his story is one of my favorites from history lol
For those who want to know more, he eventually joined the French Revolutionary Army and his unique ability was used to smuggle vital information past enemy lines. He was given a letter in a small wooden box to eat, and after reaching the point of delivery the box was then retrieved from his excrement. He was eventually admitted to a mental institution where they would attempt to cure him, until he literally ATE A 14 MONTH CHILD... and then they exiled him.
I have had V-Strom 1000 and V-Strom 650. The 1000 is actualy easier in city traffic, because the hydraulic clutch take less effort than the cable-operated clutch on the 650. Both of them could do very high speeds out of town, more than I ever needed. The 1000 had problems with the helium-filled front tyre in first and second gears, though.
Doesnt matter that you dont need the full power of a liter bike on the road…the acceleration/getup cannot be replicated in a 600 or lower. And trust me…that shit matters in fun factor
I’ve got a 2022 Suzuki GSXS1000 and I love how comfortable it is. Also had the SX1000 , would get another one miss a readable display and the electronic cruise and fairings. Last one got wrecked by a deer, I did die temporarily it sucked)
I'm still rocking a 2015 MV Agusta F4. It brings a smile to my face, I live in Australia and there aren't that many about, so I've seen it bring a smile to passer buys as well.
As a rider and motorcycle mechanic for over 40 years now I love your content and the information given. I'm 61 now and have just sold my 2008 Buell 1125R in favor of a 2023 SV 650. I still get the sweet sound of a modern Sport V-Twin and great handling but much better ergonomics for my aging body. I totally agree with the message in this video about litre bikes and their allure but in practicality they're waaay too overpowered for 99% of us riders, It's dangerous enough out there without having to contend with the hyperspeeds these bikes are capable of without a complete understanding of counter-steering and braking. That being said...be careful out there ; )
I jumped straight to a liter bike with no previous riding experience. No dirt bikes no four wheelers. After a month I was bored, started upgrading. Moore Mafia Flash, Akrapovic full system, Carbon smith velocity stacks, Graves block offs, Brock’s ceramic bearings, -1 -1 sprockets 520 RK 1200 chain. Only owned it for a year with 16.8k miles. You can start on a bigger bike if you understand an respect what it can do
That's great, man. Sometimes, it is that simple. As long as you respect its power and know your limits, you'll be fine.
@@ColdDream224exactly, just because you can twist the throttle all the way back doesn't mean you should.
I had a letter to Motorcyclist published about 2004 with the same sentiment. The editors disagreed with me, but the point was to respect how much power whether it is 600/750/1000 all of them are lethal if you do not respect them, and with the right attitude having 150 hp is OK.
Yeah I wasted a lot of money doing the 600rr to 750, back to Honda 1000RR. I should have skipped the 750 I didn’t like that bike much. Honda is just my fit.
Bored after a month lol I dont believe that for a second. Show us how you ride it I'm sure we'll have a nice laugh.
Thanks for helping me decide on a Ninja 1000sx!❤
Started on a K6 GSXR 1000 with no riding experience. Was absolute madness! Loved every minute though😅
Lol, I started on a K5 GSXR 1000 three months ago, that thing can make me smile like nothing else on this world.
started on a GSXR1000K9 and have found myself downgrading CCs ever since and having way more fun
I started on a yamaha RSX 100 about 25 years ago and worked my way up through the years. Gotta say Im super glad I started on that little bike when I was 17 as I had numerous mishaps due to inexperience that would have left me dead or maimed if I was on a bigger bike. Currently 41 years old and rocking a Super Duke 990
So just a question can everyone choose 1000cc has there first beginner bike?
I traded in my 2018 Versys 650 for a 2023 1000sx 4k miles ago. Love the 1000sx but wish I still had both bikes (can't afford that). Yammie talks bad about the Versys but I disagree, it was a great bike,,, I had to trade it in because it was rebuilt after a wreck and then got flooded and repaired again but it was never the same, it was like... anemic, didn't want to go to full power... I miss her though... going weird places, up down curbs and stairs and it would always do little mini wheelies when leaving red lights,,, it way sicker than Yammie makes them out to be. The 1000sx has a traction nanny that keeps me feeling "mature and responsible" out there. All in all though,,, I love them both.
My ZX14R is perfect for the streets and has 113 ft lbs of torque. It's comfortable, to me it looks good, and on the highway, it makes you feel like a king. I wouldn't mind an MT-10, maybe next year. Most of the people who ride 600cc Supersport motorcycles in my area, plan on moving up to liters, one person who I rode with promptly was nearly killed after getting a used R1, the power is definitely a rush, I could ride my ZX14R just on the freeway and be content although I take it out into the twisties where it doesn't do too bad.
Add handlebar risers and a 190/55 for the rear tire. Only good things will ensue
Then swap out the footpegs. Ive got Puig racing pegs and i drag my boots thru the curves and they dont slip/squish in the least
Love the channel. I owned a 2008 ZX10 and that bike kicked my ass on a daily basis but I’m more a street squid than a track one. Loving the modern nakeds.
Going from an r6 to r1 I have to say the r1 is much easier to ride in the city when it ain’t hot out and I ride it more responsibly. Puts the fear of God in you.
Cb650R one of the best bikes I have ever owned. Pushing it to its Max is viable fun, and one of the best handling bikes I have rode. Loved my cbr1000rr but there is a reason. I would rather have the cb650r. As Sir Noob says you really don't need 1000 cc.
I bought a liter bike for my first bike back in 1983. I respected the bike and got lucky to not ever have an accident. I wouldn't rec 3:59 ommend a 1000 cc bike for a beginner though... Suzuki GS 1000S.
I don't understand people who say liters are fine for beginners... like wtf? That's like getting an indycar without the cage for a a first car.
I had an '08 CBR1000rr, and unexpectedly traded it in for a '19 Ninja 1000sx during covid, and I gotta say I'm a lot happier. 85% of the performance, and I can ride it all day.
I bought the Suzuki GSX 8R a month ago, even put the full Akrapovic exhaust on it, got the ecu flashed by TST Industries. I sold it back to the dealership and got the Ninja ZX10R.
For over 20 years I’ve had multiple CBRs, but today, I wanted something more! In Louisville KY where I’m at there’s not any tracks close to here, but I want to get into track days with this bike :)
Nothing better than a mid 2000s liter bike for that raw analog experience
Just recently acquired a 02 fz1 as my first bike. Totally amazing.
My dad wanted to upgrade. He sold me his 2012 ZX14 with full bolt ons for $3000.
first time on a motorcycle outside of the Honda 300R I rode when I took my motorcycle class.
Personally, I don't think 1000cc or 1400s are too much for a beginner. You can easily start on these types of bikes with self control.
My dad always told me growing up, "1000s are like guns".
IMHO, 1000s, big liter sport bikes are bragging rights more than anything. You can never really use this kind of power on the street, without getting in huge trouble.
They're not good if you wanna actually learn how to ride fast
10:18 That's such s cool analog dash lighting.. 🥹
this is such an honest spot on video that will only be apparent when you are no longer a nubby
At 61 yo I’ve considered a street fighter but I just can’t give up my Ducati 1098 that I’ve clocked over 40k miles on. Too much fun to be had with just a twist of the wrist!
I have a Triumph sprint ST 1050, 06 reg. I've had it over 13 yrs now and i find it's just right for me, commuting for work ALL yr round, trips out or just to the shops n back. it can be steady/gentle riding or a blast if i feel like it, nowt wrong with a big engine! : ))
Brilliant video Man, information overload right on Queue and fantastically executed, it was like having a quick shifter, bang next gear, bang next gear etc fantastic ❤❤
Yammie , I Love my R1 ! None of these Watered Down Sub Model's will ever fulfill a True MotorHead !! Bless
I've got a 09 zx10r from a 2001 KTM620cc supermoto, mental difference but ya know we out here pushing boundaries
i rode many different liter bikes and settled on a 2008 Yamaha FZ 1. Turned out to be the most comfortable good performance and great looking bike. Swapped out the exhaust and added a lower fairing. Enjoyed that bike for 35,000 miles without a problem . Yamaha is very well built and easy to work on. Helped a friend with a Honda cbr1000 and the faring plastics were terrible to work with. Im a Yamaha fan for sure...FZ1 was an Awesome ride!!
When the speedo is climbing faster than the tach, you know you're on a beast of a bike.
I love my 2021 ninja 1000sx. Can beat cruise control!
Honestly the evolution of this channel through the years is remarkable. Love ya Pappa Yams
I have a 02 Cbr954rr it's the weight of a 600 with just under 160hp and 72ft tq. Great Bike and arguably the best fireblade ever built.
any blade from 08 and up would disagree.
Nice work, had litre rockets for years. - on track days they make sense and about the right power but on the road, especially with the latest 200 bhp bikes there to much but still you gotta have them. Currently got a V4R and Zx10R.
Had a gen 2 and gen 3 mt09, a gsxs gt for a few months, now hove a 2004 fireblade and absolutely love it, and riding position isn't half as bad as modern litre bikes
I bought a 21' 1000 cubes gsxr. I did not regret.
I bought my first street bike 5 months ago, a KTM 390 ADV. A couple weeks later I bought a Ducati SCRAMBLER 803 cc air cooled. Lots of fun. A couple weeks later I bought a Ducati Diavel 1260S. Ooh Laa Laa..... the torque and the power curve of that engine are addicting. The key to riding ANY motorcycle is to first learn how to control the throttle and how to control the clutch. I learned about 15 years ago by riding single track dirt trail in the desert around Phoenix for 4 years. Once you master the clutch and throttle, no bike is dangerous or intimidating to ride.
It depends on previous experience!
1000 cc fits me perfect…..
First bike I got was a k1 Gixxer,
A year later 1000rr hp4 for the track….
Love em…but demands respect…
I was thinking of getting a zx10r but you’re right I don’t need it. I’ll just get an h2
Or in reality a 125cc 🤣
I basically drive my Ducati 1198 daily and I love it even on the street that torque makes it convent to ride
Worked my way up started with a MT07 (700cc) then MT09SP (900cc) and my First Liter Bike S1000r with came with 22 years
After that the 1290 Super Duke R came and I kept it the longest for Like 3 years After replacing it for a smaller cc Bike a 23‘ Tuono V4 Factory 1100cc
Have a Streetfighter 848 and Street Triple 765 R. Also have a Vespa GTS. Love em all. I don't feel any need or desire for a liter bike. Would like to try one out one day though.
Honestly I think that a 1000 makes more sense on the street than a 600 simply because of the torque and low and mid range power 🫠 I have a zx10r as my daily 😅
I totally agree. Don’t have to rev out a liter bike to be in motion.
@@ATL_Rider79yessirrr
yup. 600s are great at speed, but around town they finicky compared to the liters.
@@lgmediapcsalon9440 way more comfortable of a ride tbh
@@robmuhfacka5986the 600 vs the 1000? Depends on the make I guess.
I never thought i would say this but their is a thing as too much power on the road.
Years ago i raced a full power ranger on a 2018 ZX10R on my tuned MT09 on some twisty country lanes and guess what, he wasnt going any where
@@janthomassen9577 who told you it was a straight line wheelie machine
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@@janthomassen9577 I only raced the guy for about 5 minutes and I was right behind him
Sport bikes are too twichy for the road I think
Facts I had a z400, best beginner bike. Now a happy owner of a z900 is of last week:)
I had a 21 fireblade and went to an R7. Love liter bikes but I guess I’ve done some maturing a realized going fast isn’t everything and I’ve had so much fun on my R7. It’s lighter and a lot more fun in twistes and the track. Yeah the straight line isn’t there but it does everything else better imo.
Not all liter bikes are the same. My Z1k makes like 150hp and 81 tq out of a 1043cc. It can definitely put you on your ass if you don't pay attention, but it's way different than the R1s or RSV4s I've ridden
I used to have it 2014 it great torque monster I dino tune it 142 to rear 77 fit of torque. 😅 I sold it got v4 2023 ducati panigale it homicidal bike
i have ridden cruisers my entire life.
today i got on a 2007 honda vfr 800cc
holy shit was it a different experience.
now i know its nothing compared to what is out there these days but it hauled ass.
having said that, i had zero issues with it.
really enjoyed my test ride.
once i got aclimated to the riding position it was smooth sailing.
i think the issue is people who havent ridden and dont have a concept of how to feel out the clutch and throttle is the main issue.
someone with experience and respect for bikes could easily hop on a 1000cc and ride with no issue.
and i stand by that, you can feel when that front tire is wanting to lift up.
back off.
you dont just jump on a bike, rev the piss out of it and dump the clutch.
When the triple R Fireblade came out, 650ib raced it against his V4R and the stock bike smoked the slightly modded Ducati. And mind you, it was his friend who piloted the CBR, he rides his own vehicles. 650ib is an established drag racer and track junkie while his friend may not be.
Anyways, the Ducati lost in acceleration from from the low end and got smoked in gears 4-6.
The Triple R Fireblade also beat his H2 (not his drag H2, his other slightly modified H2) through several launches until 1 good launch wherein it took a while for the H2 to overtake the Honda.
To add on that, the US released Triple R is electronically rev and HP limited to comply with noise standards.
The Triple R Fireblade also beat a Gen 2 and Gen 3 Hayabusa, albeit both were unmodded and was conducted by another content creator.
WSBK Honda suffers from electronics issues and lack of rider talent and retainment. While WSBK supposedly bases their bikes off production bikes, the level of modification may as well make them prototype homologations. Look at the Yamaha WSBK and see how much WSBK are modified.
BSB and other Superstock leagues see Fireblade domination and the Isle of Man TT was dominated by as much as 8/10 Hondas in recent years. Laptime records are being broken and rider feedback is beyond positive.
The Triple R simply shines the closer it is to stock.
I love your videos! I just got a ninja1000sx 2024 model about 2 months ago. I like it!
Sport touring bikes are all fun and games but you’ll always lust after the liter bike. My first bike was an r1 I’ve owned 5 other bikes since, and still find myself missing the rush of speed but married life has made it so it’s not with the fight to have one lol
I watch these all the time
I still love my 07 ZX10R that I bought to daily an hour one way to work every day. It's such a blast to ride. I want to buy a Rocket 3 soon. Only thing better than 1 liter would be 2
Ever since buying my 2007 April RSVR, I haven't felt the need to upgrade my sports-bike. I have added a commuter and a hypermotard to the collection tho . . .
I’ve thought about it. I can ride that frame geometry backwards. (Oh quick shift. I’d rather die. Ok, we can accommodate.) I can operate crossplane twins on mangled roads, more common to me than clean tracks. And my super ten strokes me rather nicely when her t7 sister doesn’t.
My teachers were Freddy Spencer. Eddie Lawson, Kevin Shwanzte etc:) 1st rule: Respect the craft that you love. In return, she will love you back:) I still want to ride just for once in my lifetime, the TT:)
As a humble superduke rider I support it as a starting bike
The only thing better than Yammie's writing and production, is the valuable content....or maybe it's the other way around....
TY, making me rethink my plans for a GSX-R 1000RZ
Got a Vstrom1000 to daily drive to work & it's super nice to have a but more power not necessary the liter bike top speed. She's not slow tho & with those GIVI hard bags on its a little wheelie machine.
I got myself an RSV4 recently and changed the sprocket for a lower gearing. Still, I'm looking forward to spending some days at the track next year.
As Beginner bike ?
Stick with my 2003 cbr600rr for now. It's everything I need for the street but may look into a new fireblade for the track soon.
Just got my ducati diavel v4 2023, coming from a aprillia rsv4 2020... and tbh is way more useful, I can bring a passanger comfortable, has hard points for bags, has all the tech and still performs ( not at the same level but it's still a beast)... The only bad part about the diavel is the attention it brings,cuz is different from everything in the road, at least here in Portugal
G'afternoon ☕☕ 🤠 . I'm an 80's kid & a bike junkie. I've ridden & owned more bikes over the last 30+ yrs than car's & trucks 10 fold. I had an 07' YZF-R1p I rode for 3 seasons & I loved it b4 I went back to cruisers & my 01' Roadstar XV-1600A 98" Thumper 🙃 ..
i go for a massive twisty road loop every weekend and i barely see any sports bikes here in aus, basically harleys naked and the big adventure bikes
Saying a liter bike is too much for the street is the same as saying a v8 corvette or mustang is too much for the street. Sure, you’re not gonna use everything it’s got and push it to its potential, but doesn’t mean you shouldn’t ride/drive one
I have been riding for over 30 years starting with dirt bikes and then street bikes. Ive had a Harley sporty 1200, kawi 636(say la vie), suki 750rr, etc etc and now a Triumph street twin, I have never seen a need for liter bikes. they’re nice but, they’re heavier, slower in all twists and they get worse fuel mileage than a volvo suv… they sound great but, other than for track days, I don’t see their real purpose .
just my opinion i think they’re beautiful and technologically advanced but, idk there are better options..
I just bought a litre bike and Its awesome. Definitely think 600's are the perfect displacement tho.
I think the alternative to these bikes for riding on the street are hypernaked bikes. For example bmw s1000r. Or ducati streetfighter v4.
Just got my first liter bike!! coming off a 636 wish me luck and safety! two wheels up everyone.
Two wheels down, brother.
great history on motorcycles in less than 15 mins ! very interesting
only got 1 litre bike but 3 litre plus, 1100 and 1400 vtvins and il4's sv1000 is a joy to ride not that the others arent but its so light and do the corners like a fly,,, however the torque of the opened up an tuned intruder 1400....
The BMW S1000RR is a German GSXR and Yammy is to blind to see it! It’s a fantastic bike who could not love a German GSXR.
This does not help my decision on whether I should buy a s1000rr or a gsxr 1000 😅
@@pauly1k I mean an S1000RR is like a GSXR 1000 turned all the way to eleven. More power, better brakes, better suspension, much better electronics. Its probably a lot easier to ride fast on track on the BMW. That being said, it will be much more expensive in the long run (servicing premium) as well as a much higher MSRP (so many options on the BMW)
Do yourself a favor and ride them back to back. It's not that the GSX-R isn't capable being blistering fast, but the S1000RR's build quality is on another level.
To compare a gsxr to a bmw what has the world come to 🗿 sure when you tune the sewing machine that is the s1k it might wake up but it’s almost like comparing an iPad to a flip phone all new bikes have tec but when you say gsxr it’s all in the wrist
@@chillwill7401 I wont stand for this GSXR slander put some respect on that GSXR name but really the GSXR 1000 is a great bike. Some would say its great price to performance and reliability. Plus it's the quintessential squid bike. I feel that the S1K RR takes the spirit of the GSXR 1k and adds the German refinement and features that is expected of BMW.
My first street bike was a GSXR1000 and I loved the ease the torque offered .
Super easy to drive .
With that said ;
Yes it very easily will put you over 150mph .
You just need to be an adult
My First Bike was a Ninja 626 my Next was a Yamaha R6 and then a Yamaha R1 then got on a Honda CBR600RR and fell in love with it I would like to Try a CBR1000RR at some Point
The whole category of heavy adv dad bikes is missing, although the the Multi Strada is the only 4 cyl. GS, Africa Twin, Super Adventure, Pan America etc.. are all over or around 1000cc.