Another great video. The attention to detail is sublime. I took my Transit Custom to Mike for it's wet belt replacement after seeing his video on those as the quality of work was second to none and the price was very competitive.
Now I know why I've been quoted nearly a grand to replace mine. Mind you at least it will get and oil and coolant change. I wouldn't have bought my Focus if I've known about the wet cam belt.
Love the commentary, love the systematic way you disassemble and reassemble stuff plus your intricate knowledge of these wretched Fords. You have obviously done a few and if i still had mine (i ditched it before 25K when i realised the wet belt issue) i would definitely got you to do it as i have no Milwaukee tools.😅 An absolute top job. 👏👏👏
Great video, one thing to mention, as well as cleaning the oil pump strainer its also worth doing the turbo and vac pump strainers as these get clogged with the belt debris.
Top work Mike,just had these belts done on our Fiesta zs didn't have the luxury of the torque multiplier.. took a 4ft bar 😮to get the crank pulley bolt out and to do the new one up ...
That's a lot of work for a belt change.... And a good few tools and knowledge.... You certainly know your way around Ford stuff, well done fella. Oi Milwaukie!.... Best you notice this bloke 😂😂
Hey Mike ...enjoyed the video considered doing some videos myself that said keep up the work my opinion this is not a quick job took me 14 hours as needed to make some tools ....the belts were loosing teeth and pump was partially blocked with debris....
Hi Thanks for the dimensions of the friction washer. I have a question about this washer : no risk of misalignment of the belt on the pulley due to the thickness of the washer ?
@@ignitionadvantages6592 not forgot.. me car got crashed into while parked ..awaiting the 3rd shit repair by the shit approved garage they sent me too, cars in worse condition now than the accident created. so the belt is on hold.
Hi, I have a 2019 Focus, the Ford Service manual recons the wetbelt should be changed at 10yrs or 140,000miles. Do you know if that is correct. When would you change the belt? Cheers
I hope whoever thought up this idea got sacked. If it was a chain you could accept the graft but not for something that going to be considered a liability 🙈
Great video thanks...that mileage is exactly why the belt looks like that...the car has only been doing 416 miles per month average. That is way too little...Me Ecoboost I getting it's wet belt replaced and it's on 106k miles now. Engines are designed to move, work and operate. Leave them standing or drive them to the corner store and back and you muck up everything.
And can fail just as quick, I just don't understand why the bolt has to be that tight ford build loads of engine with no key way and they where never that tight they are just assholes
@@johncoldwell340 Aye, but I've never ever known timing chains that needed replacing after every 50k miles. Anything can fail. That's not my point. This only has 28k on the clock. And TCs usually give plenty of warning, but by then you're up in the 200k - 300k mile range. This is a critically important part of the engine, and it is failing, or starting to after only a few 10's of thousands of miles. And just the sheer amount of work required to change one! Wow unbelievable ...I'd rate this about as complicated as dropping the transmsission on my van. That was a bear of a job. It's ok if you're a mech working on these...nice little earner but for the home mechanic... And not having a keyed crankshaft, yeah that is just plain stupid requiring even more work and specialist tools. Ford should immediately begin working on a timing chain conversion kit for these lumps. Peugeot/Stellantis have a similar design and they are having the same issues. A rubber band dipping into hot engine oil contaminated with diesel or gas, what could possibly go wrong.
@@sneezyferret6482 me either till I had to put a chain on a low mileage qashqai 1.2 digT and when I stripped it down to do it had already a BGA chain kit on it
I replaced my 205 GTI timing belt last year, took me 45 minutes, how times have changed, either a timing chain or dry timing belt, rubber belts and oil don't mix.
Well after 10 years old or 20 000 mil . I will change the timing belt and multi belt + oil pump belt. And water pump on my Ford Focus Ecobooster 1.0. Iťs an 2017 and just 7100 mil. So I will wait 3 more years.
@@ignitionadvantages6592 Well that's not too bad considering i was quoted £750 and £675 from two garages to do a clutch on a Corsa D 1.0 for my other half.
NO they are easy to do just a bit fiddly as you are working through holes in side of engine TAKE the sump off and clean out AND the strainer Then change oil every 5000 miles after - as it is the acid in the oil that breaks down the rubber Even doing the above I would change belt every 25-30,000 or 4 years ! There are 2 timing kits depending on year PRE 2018 - Type this number into e bay 404846577282 AFTER 2018 Type this number into e bay 404844411663 Hunt about you can get the tools cheap now
They have revised the belts but still wouldn’t trust them! I’m sure they are been taken to court about it all.. The PSA engine isn’t much better either ant that’s fitted to lots of Citroen, Peugeot and vauxhalls 🤦🏼♂️ they do the exact same thing 🙃
Having a car is like being married to a bad wife. While things can run well once in a while, in the end, you get screwed in more ways than one and it ends up badly.When we did timing chain replacement back in the 60s and 70s on mainly V-8s, it was maybe a 2 hour job and we didn't have all the electric hand tools then. The twerps that design these things should be MADE to repair them under the threat of severe physical harm if they don't do it well and in a very reasonable amount of time. When you see repairs like this, your only thought is that you somehow hope these car makers go out of business, and the politicians that mandate too much from engine makers get sent to prison for life. I'd sleep a lot better. Amsterdam is looking better and better every time a car repair comes up. Bicycles are looking really good as the years go by. If I were to order a new car (never happen) I would special order one WITH a chain instead of that belt from Hell. If they wouldn't do it, no sale. The way car companies are going, I'm surprised they aren't selling cars with square wheels and making you pay extra for round.
Be loads of these in the scrappers soon when they get to 11/12 yrs whos going to pay £1k for a timing belt or an engine if the pick up strainer gets blocked and kills the engine
Exactly that's why they used the belts and made changing it as hard as they could, they don't want 10 plus year old cars still on the road, they want you to buy a new one, but why would you if you had a bad experience in the first place, they will lose their customer base, when people decide they want a more reliable car that doesn't cost £1200 to change a timing belt at 30k miles.
Does the manufacturer pay for the expenses associated with this manufacturer's mistake? It should hurt to be stupid. What would this cost in U.S. dollars? I can just imagine the sales person explaining the virtues of the Wet Belt technology to the prospective buyer 😅
Get a new car.😂 This is a failed technology. The companies made this so you have to go to them to service your car. This is like with the new video games or Netflix where you no longer own anything anymore.
Another great video.
The attention to detail is sublime.
I took my Transit Custom to Mike for it's wet belt replacement after seeing his video on those as the quality of work was second to none and the price was very competitive.
Soo much labour for basically a lawnmower engine!
Great in-depth video. I love an old skool proper workshop 👍🏼.
Now I know why I've been quoted nearly a grand to replace mine. Mind you at least it will get and oil and coolant change. I wouldn't have bought my Focus if I've known about the wet cam belt.
Soooo many top tips and I'm only 11 minutes in! Love the drive shaft tip
Definitely not one to do on the driveway on a Saturday. Love your videos.
Love the commentary, love the systematic way you disassemble and reassemble stuff plus your intricate knowledge of these wretched Fords. You have obviously done a few and if i still had mine (i ditched it before 25K when i realised the wet belt issue) i would definitely got you to do it as i have no Milwaukee tools.😅 An absolute top job. 👏👏👏
Great video, one thing to mention, as well as cleaning the oil pump strainer its also worth doing the turbo and vac pump strainers as these get clogged with the belt debris.
Top work Mike,just had these belts done on our Fiesta zs didn't have the luxury of the torque multiplier.. took a 4ft bar 😮to get the crank pulley bolt out and to do the new one up ...
Blimey, thats alot of involvement.. well done buddy
Those without a torque multiplier have just tightened the bolt upto 300nm then 90 degrees.
That's a lot of work for a belt change.... And a good few tools and knowledge.... You certainly know your way around Ford stuff, well done fella.
Oi Milwaukie!.... Best you notice this bloke 😂😂
Hey Mike ...enjoyed the video considered doing some videos myself that said keep up the work my opinion this is not a quick job took me 14 hours as needed to make some tools ....the belts were loosing teeth and pump was partially blocked with debris....
There's no retro fit chain option to put back in like the 4 cyl models? I cannot see replacing one bad design with the same thing.
great video, some great detail for such a short video compared to doing the job. hope you get the Milwaukee sponser!
Hi
Thanks for the dimensions of the friction washer.
I have a question about this washer : no risk of misalignment of the belt on the pulley due to the thickness of the washer ?
Do these engine's not need supporting when taking the engine mount off?
What do you charge! I need one, apparently! My 2013 zetec s has 18k! Ive had the oil changed annually despite doing only 100mls some years.
@@GPH2474 £1000+vat
Yea see that now. Where you based?
@@GPH2474chingford
@@ignitionadvantages6592 not forgot.. me car got crashed into while parked ..awaiting the 3rd shit repair by the shit approved garage they sent me too, cars in worse condition now than the accident created. so the belt is on hold.
Don’t forget 90 +90+90+90=360
Brilliant vid though and although you said it incorrectly you did of course do it correctly.
Hi, I have a 2019 Focus, the Ford Service manual recons the wetbelt should be changed at 10yrs or 140,000miles. Do you know if that is correct. When would you change the belt? Cheers
What a Video Mike!! Fantastic👍
Alot of work for a low mileage engine good job btw 🎉
I hope whoever thought up this idea got sacked. If it was a chain you could accept the graft but not for something that going to be considered a liability 🙈
Great video thanks...that mileage is exactly why the belt looks like that...the car has only been doing 416 miles per month average. That is way too little...Me Ecoboost I getting it's wet belt replaced and it's on 106k miles now. Engines are designed to move, work and operate. Leave them standing or drive them to the corner store and back and you muck up everything.
I've been doing alot of short journeys in my fiesta 1.0 econetic, not the best -.-
It's a 2013 on 122k miles and I believe on the original wet belt.
Three cheers for timing chains.
Which also snap
And can fail just as quick, I just don't understand why the bolt has to be that tight ford build loads of engine with no key way and they where never that tight they are just assholes
@@johncoldwell340 Aye, but I've never ever known timing chains that needed replacing after every 50k miles. Anything can fail. That's not my point. This only has 28k on the clock. And TCs usually give plenty of warning, but by then you're up in the 200k - 300k mile range. This is a critically important part of the engine, and it is failing, or starting to after only a few 10's of thousands of miles.
And just the sheer amount of work required to change one! Wow unbelievable ...I'd rate this about as complicated as dropping the transmsission on my van. That was a bear of a job. It's ok if you're a mech working on these...nice little earner but for the home mechanic...
And not having a keyed crankshaft, yeah that is just plain stupid requiring even more work and specialist tools.
Ford should immediately begin working on a timing chain conversion kit for these lumps. Peugeot/Stellantis have a similar design and they are having the same issues.
A rubber band dipping into hot engine oil contaminated with diesel or gas, what could possibly go wrong.
@@sneezyferret6482 me either till I had to put a chain on a low mileage qashqai 1.2 digT and when I stripped it down to do it had already a BGA chain kit on it
@@sneezyferret6482 and I've known poorly maintained corsas start rattling a 30k and still live till over 100k 😂 with no engine light
I replaced my 205 GTI timing belt last year, took me 45 minutes, how times have changed, either a timing chain or dry timing belt, rubber belts and oil don't mix.
Yeah, I'm guestimating he spent around 4-5 hours on this job. Insane.
@@sneezyferret6482 and the rest, maybe more like 7 hours
What an absolute ballache of a job and with no miles on it either!
What was it in total 9-10 hours??
Around 9 hours
Which multiplier tool is used? Is it Laser Tools?
Do you have to drain the gearbox oil to remove the driveshaft?
Anyone has a detail video of using the SST timing of 1.0 L ecoboost engine?
what`s the cost for changing these belts and oil pump please ?
Around £1000
What a nightmare well done 👍👍👍
How much does it cost
wow... And I thought dry timing belts were a pain to do ....This is progress ??? 😁
Good video, lots of work, cost in Holland thousand euro's. I heard.
Well after 10 years old or 20 000 mil . I will change the timing belt and multi belt + oil pump belt. And water pump on
my Ford Focus Ecobooster 1.0. Iťs an 2017 and just 7100 mil. So I will wait 3 more years.
Thanks, I now know what all the fuss is about. Unbelievable
Some class tips in this one
I dont own a ford but how much would this job cost it is a hell of a lot of work
@@northeastrc2725 £1000+vat
@@ignitionadvantages6592 Well that's not too bad considering i was quoted £750 and £675 from two garages to do a clutch on a Corsa D 1.0 for my other half.
Does it have a cambelt or chain
Belt
Wetbelt
Is the citroen c5 1.2 puretech engine the same
NO they are easy to do just a bit fiddly as you are working through holes in side of engine
TAKE the sump off and clean out AND the strainer
Then change oil every 5000 miles after - as it is the acid in the oil that breaks down the rubber
Even doing the above I would change belt every 25-30,000 or 4 years !
There are 2 timing kits depending on year
PRE 2018 - Type this number into e bay 404846577282
AFTER 2018 Type this number into e bay 404844411663
Hunt about you can get the tools cheap now
Where are you based, and how much to do the job on a manual please? Ford need a kick up the arse for letting that engine into production.
£1000+vat
@@ignitionadvantages6592 You did a fantastic job. Very thorough. 👍🏼
@@ignitionadvantages6592too cheap! All that work that goes into it
Now I see why it a thousand pounds plus to do ,nightmare first time you do one 😮
They have revised the belts but still wouldn’t trust them! I’m sure they are been taken to court about it all.. The PSA engine isn’t much better either ant that’s fitted to lots of Citroen, Peugeot and vauxhalls 🤦🏼♂️ they do the exact same thing 🙃
Having a car is like being married to a bad wife. While things can run well once in a while, in the end, you get screwed in more ways than one and it ends up badly.When we did timing chain replacement back in the 60s and 70s on mainly V-8s, it was maybe a 2 hour job and we didn't have all the electric hand tools then. The twerps that design these things should be MADE to repair them under the threat of severe physical harm if they don't do it well and in a very reasonable amount of time. When you see repairs like this, your only thought is that you somehow hope these car makers go out of business, and the politicians that mandate too much from engine makers get sent to prison for life. I'd sleep a lot better. Amsterdam is looking better and better every time a car repair comes up. Bicycles are looking really good as the years go by. If I were to order a new car (never happen) I would special order one WITH a chain instead of that belt from Hell. If they wouldn't do it, no sale. The way car companies are going, I'm surprised they aren't selling cars with square wheels and making you pay extra for round.
Mine must be in a ridiculous state at 100k miles
WOW!!!!! Scary with only those miles!! can the 1.0 owners say CHAIN
And what is your favorite holiday destination, you guess it MILWAUKEE 😉
90x 4 is 360 not 180 😂😂😂
Brilliant guide, great work.
@MilwaukeeTool please sponsor Michael, if anybody needs the latest and greatest tools, it's him!
Yea worded that wrong 🤦🏻♂️
@@ignitionadvantages6592 you could drop a bit of text in there to correct that.
@@ignitionadvantages6592where are you based?
I think the old Pinto engine is a much better engine SO MUCH easier to work on and linger lasting.
What fool invented the wet belt 😂
Be loads of these in the scrappers soon when they get to 11/12 yrs whos going to pay £1k for a timing belt or an engine if the pick up strainer gets blocked and kills the engine
Exactly that's why they used the belts and made changing it as hard as they could, they don't want 10 plus year old cars still on the road, they want you to buy a new one, but why would you if you had a bad experience in the first place, they will lose their customer base, when people decide they want a more reliable car that doesn't cost £1200 to change a timing belt at 30k miles.
What a pain, looks like double the work of a ecoblue belt job
That seems like the best timing belt system they have ever designed Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO WAFU
Enshittification. A timing belt only made sense on the 8V 240 volvo.
I don't believe its the wrong oil causing the belts to fail, I think its that the belt is in the wrong place, should be on the outside of the engine!.
Top tip don’t buy eco boost engine CAR or van !🤦♂️😀
Does the manufacturer pay for the expenses associated with this manufacturer's mistake?
It should hurt to be stupid.
What would this cost in U.S. dollars?
I can just imagine the sales person explaining the virtues of the Wet Belt technology to the prospective buyer 😅
My snap on gun takes these crank pulleys off no problem
What a pain. I would never buy one, just because of that belt.
you know ford got it wrong when you prefer working on the psa pureshite motor...
Get a new car.😂 This is a failed technology. The companies made this so you have to go to them to service your car. This is like with the new video games or Netflix where you no longer own anything anymore.
TOO MANY ADDs
Wet belt and no keyed shaft on Crank, what a piece of junk, I smell lawsuit , Ford is a disgusting company to build this crappy engine design.