I bet someone in finance asked why the chain was specified as it cost more than a belt and then the poor engineers had to go through a load of work converting it to a belt.
I have a Ford Endura here In Australia, same engine. I had previously never heard of a wet cam belt but in my quick research it’s all about refinement. Less noise, harshness and friction giving a small reduction in fuel usage. I can see why it was done but it just feels so wrong in my bones. Just deciding when I’ll do mine. 100,000 km (60,000 miles) seems like a good spot. Oil interval is 15,000 km but I’ve always done one in between at 7500.
I've only done one of these, I took in a mates failed diy job and said I would have a go at it. The timing setup, when getting into it halfway through is a fu**ing nightmare. It was on the lift 3 days before I dared to start it, that was after a couple of pints with my mate who's a local Ford parts manager, including some printouts of the job sheet. That slight misalignment of the crank to idler puts the shits right up you with so many teeth on the crank sprocket. Cracking job mate, made it look simple and I'm 100% with you for adding a dot of paint when doing timing jobs, even with full timing tool kits. It anything goes amiss you have a visual of where it was when it ran ok.
Cracking video, at least I know what's been done to my van. I think I was lucky to have gotten away with my belt not breaking. Ran the mileage up to 150660 miles before I was made aware of these belt issues.
The crank bolt tightening procedure is insane! I don't know where Ford get their ideas from. Reminds me of the 6 speed gearbox oil fill procedure on my Focus, fill with oil until it leaks out the hole, then use a syringe/tube to remove the specified amount of oil from the fill hole to reduce down to the correct level! I just sent it with 2 x 1l bottles 🤣.
It's absolutely ridiculous, been honest, all us, including ford warranty guy just rattle the fuckers on, done hundreds of em and never had a problem, that's if they make it to 100k without breaking!
There are two reasons for it. Firstly, it's a stretch bolt (hence it being replaced rather than reused) and secondly. the crank isn't keyed. The front pully essentially "squashes" the timing gear into position to achieve timing. If it's not tightened correctly, there is a chance that the timing will slip, and well, goodnight engine. The reason this is done is so that the timing can be set absolutely. Any machining tolerances are removed. With ever increasing emission requirements, things of this nature are required in order to make "every" engine perform as well as they can. There is also an added bonus in that the entire cost of machining a key way and the actual key is removed from the production of the engine resulting in reduced manufacturing cost.
@@Slarty_42 If you pause the video @11:36 and @11:39 the crank gear is clearly keyed to the crank on this engine. There are still machining tolerances in the zetec/sigma no key crank setups. It's just moved from ther crank key factory machining tolerance to how accurately the crank / cam timing setting tools were manufactured 👍. No wet belt engines for me either way 🤮.
Great video. Gave me the confidence to tackle one. 2019 at 120,000 miles. Got the kit from Ford. Didn't have a lot of debris, but the belt was just starting to break up. Totally absurd idea but if it pays the bills....
I use a wooden hammer handle between a big end and the cylinder block to lock the crank, saves the hassle of dismounting the starter. great video tho, wish it was available before i did my 1st one.
True full procedure instruction video .insane torque procedure.glad I quit cars 20 years ago .were ridiculous then .taking engines out for starter motors etc .
Excellent video and work. First time I’ve seen this, sold a 68 plate last year as now retired which I bought new and only had 24k on it with FFSH but this always worried me about these engines
Really well explained. I only watched out of interest, having changed the cam chain on our Renault Trafic (which wasworn right out after only 96,000 miles despite a very complete service history). Very similar job. I couldn’t help but notice that you effectively torqued up the “stretch” bolt on the crank twice….but what a palaver it is. I once needed recovery for my motorbike by a breakdown truck (contractor for the RAC). The recovery van only got thirty yards with me before there was a very loud bang from under the engine and the dash warnings all lit up. The crank pulley came off because the bolt snapped.
Ford engine designers be like: "A rubber timing belt, subjected to high impulse loads in normal operation, bathed in hot, dirty oil. what could possibly go wrong?"
Great video !!! Couple of suggestions if I may. You may well have done it anyway but always a good idea to wipe fresh oil around a new lip seal and its shaft to ensure it starts off lubricated before the pumped oil gets up there. Rather than use town water in the coolant system I use deionised water to minimise any risk of corrosion, especially if the head or block are aluminium. Town water has chlorine in it plus mineral salts. Subscribed.
I bought an 18 plate with 41000 miles on the clock a few months ago. I didn’t know about the wet belt issues otherwise I’d have looked elsewhere. It makes for nervous driving.The service history is good. The previous owner had it serviced after 10000 miles from the initial first service at 21000 with ford.I fully serviced it, Castrol magnatec as ford recommends, ford oil filter,air filter,fuel filter, cabin filter at 42000. I’ll continue to have it serviced every 10000 miles. The original service interval stated by ford for this van is every 36000 miles which is totally ridiculous. I’m wondering if it’s worth having the sump removed and checking the oil pick up filter before oil changes to look for belt deterioration ?. I’ve inspected the top smooth side of the belt with an endoscope by removing the oil filler pipe but it’s impossible to tell with any accuracy.The problem with relatively frequent wet belt changes is the cost ( around £1200 or more) and finding a competent local garage to do it
@@z00h yep, that’s what I’ve heard. It requires a good old strip down just to get to the belts, then you’ve got oil and filter change ( nearly 10 litres of premium oil) . Ford timing belt cover, tensioner , new stretch bolts and belts.Coolant change .and then it’s got to sit on the ramps for probably 12 hours while the gasket sealant goes off before the oil can go in it. A right pain in the arse
36,000miles without an oil change is absolute madness but there again Ford are not paying for the damage this causes it’s the customer who foots the bill every time.
If they ever do a conversion kit to chain- I’m in!! Mine has 18,000 miles in 3 years as it’s a camper so I know it’s due service after next. Saving up already.
Nice to see correct parts degreasers and sealant etc and loved the coolant device .I worked at b and b motors loughton for apprenticeship then to Keith turner motors in Walthamstow gaining mot licence and then off to i and k brown motors in wanstead . I remember Dennis Golding motors
Great video! Just having our 2019 custom 170 belt done. Had that brake issue, luckily got AA recovered, so belt had not snapped. Our fault, we are shit at regular servicing. Will be better from now on. Think we dodged a bullit.
Nice video. I remembere my first time where I had to change this belt. Took me nearly 6 hours😅. I've done a few since then and got pretty fast tbh. Takes me around 3 hours by now (without the refill of the engine oil). I kinda like this work to be honest😂
Totally disagree with the "if serviced properly" element -I have 12 of these, Ford originally stated fitted for life, then introduced a mileage limiet. We ignore them and change annually -think that is not required? We missed one and it snapped at 18 months. Crappy design and the reason I won't be ordering any more.
@@davidprentice5442 If only -2017 vehicles, began snapping in 2019. Ford denied any issue, dealer claimed the vehicle had driven through water and hydrolocked. My engineer visited the dealer, they could not provide evidence of a wet air filter or water in the engine. 2nd and 3rd broke the following week. We dropped the oil in the remainder and put cameras up the sump -evidence of the belt material breaking up. We bough a belt from Ford and advised we would get it analysed and compared to the material in the other vehicles...they asked for service records, invoices for engine oil...then started fitting new engines under warrenty. I would guess the issue is stop / start driving (as in lots of engine off, engine on) putting a crap design under pressure. It comes to something when the Fiat engined Ford diesels are the good ones...
Brilliant video! Do you fancy doing mine for me? Your work is meticulous and the attention to detail is amazing. I doubt Ford technicians do half that level of work.
Should of kept to a chain, after reading so many disaster stories about these engines belts going at 60k I decided to get a low mileage 2012 transit glad i did
your spot on my breaks went very dangerous pedal went hard no breaks if i was speeding on a motorway id be in in big big trouble vacuum pump three months later wet belt snapped new engine its cost ford tensor millions
If it's any consolation (and it probably won't be for you lol) this won't be an issue for much longer as the engine is, as we speak, being converted over to a timing chain. Great video though and really interesting to watch.
Done a few of Theese now and use the tool to also alight the bottom crank up makes it easier but as you said it’s 14 turns from the marks to line up again but after replacing the belt you only need to turn it 4 times the top will line up then use the tool to check the bottom then all should be good
Excellent video & excellent job. I have a Transit Custom Torneo 2.0 Eco blue 'Danbury Go' Campervan fitted with Auto transmission, it was 1st reg May 2018 & has only covered 23,000 miles & has had an oil change every year. It's not been subject to the Ford recall & I was wondering if I should arrange for this maintenance job to be done in Spring 2024 as well as it's yearly service, or would the timing belt be so underused that I could change it at higher mileage. The only other factor that I can think of, is that being an Auto the engine rarely revs above 3000 rpm. Any thoughts would be welcome. My 2nd question is How much should I pay for this job to a good independent garage in March 2024? Thanks.
@@mickfaragher7897 Thanks, I've just had it replaced, the old belt was in overall in good condition with a small amount of cracking at the base of a few teeth. It was a good call. A Local reputable mobile specialist completed the job & fitted genuine Ford Parts.
Even with proper servicing, some early servicing these belt shedding rubber. As mentioned vacuum pumps 😢 . All that space to fit a nice meaty duplex timing chain...... One van had oil changes at 6000 miles , with Ford oil and filter , the owner had the belt change at 72,000 miles ......pick up partially blocked. Ford MUST have found this in development/ testing but sent it out anyway....
Hey, thanks for this. Was wondering if there is any way to check what the belt is looking like before doing this replacement. Would be good to know, to avoid engine damage.
Personally, i think Ford should go back to Timing Chains rather than wet belts. Granted the chains cost more but the reliability has got to outweigh the initial costs especially when vans are used by tradesman doing plenty miles in a year. I'm now going to investigate to see if my 2015 (64 plate) Ford Ecosport has a chain or a wet belt. If it's a wet belt... i think its a belt change as my car has 51k miles on it now with no evidence of it ever being inspected let alone changed. Great video though.... very educational :)
A simple duplex timing chain and none of this would ever have. Made so much bad publicity and so many people run away from ford, also ford have produced this rubbish and should be the cradle to grave owner of this inherent catostraphic failure like dual mass and like manufacturers who make cars that you can't easily change a bulb without having to remove parts of vehicle, super work though and very well explained you make things looks easy and non confused, top job
Fords had a recall on those Transit custom vans. Check that your van has been done, under warranty. Doesnt matter how many owners or miles as its a safety recall. Mines going in next week with 130k on the motor.
Hello, great video. If you get the opportunity could you show how to do an auto gearbox oil and filter change on one of these as there are very few instructional videos on the transition custom. Keep up the good work, Paul
The Transit 2.0 Auto doesn’t have a filter, believe it or not I’ve been to Ford and double checked but make sure you change the oil they’re going at 100k till 120 k I know if six gearboxes have all gone in that mileage range because they’ve not had their oil changed
I don't mean the one at the flywheel end that you used for torquing the pulley. The kit I use has a plate that fits on the front of the crank where the pulley goes. It locks against the left hand timing cover locating dowel. I think it's a laser kit👍
Possibly, depends on the design and manufacturer, but for convenience and low cost of maintenance an external cam belt is unbeatable. Replacing the cam chain on my Mazda 6 is an utter b4stard of a job, and you are a nervous wreck hoping the cover is sealed properly afterwards, if it leaks it has to come off again, 4 hours work! And, the chain is so puny looking, looks like it would snap in a heartbeat, and of course it can't be inspected without stripping the whole thing down, you just have to wait for the management light to come on or when it suddenly gets noisy.
Just had 2 Transit engines replaced, one 2019 at 77k miles with blown head gasket, just out of warranty and main dealer couldn't get the injectors out to take the head off, other one 2018 at 120k miles with a broken wet belt (not due for change until 150k). Both bought new and serviced on the dot. I started working on Fords in the late 1960s and changed more Pinto camshafts in the early 70s than I care to remember. Fords were a heap of s**t then and they're a heap of s**t now! I said that to the head mechanic at the main dealer and his reply was "can't argue with you mate, keeps us in a job though!". Prevention is better than cure, the best prevention being to never buy a Ford in the first place!
Hi mate ,im about to do one of these tomorrow morning , im just wondering, have you left the engine laying on the driveshaft by any chance or it is just me messing about ? Asking as I know on ecoboost engine I usually support them on a jackstand by the drive shaft and was wondering if the engine itself lays on it ??( by the looks of it ) ? great job thank you very much , you make it look like a walk in the park cheers mate , please let me know thanks
Very interesting vlog, I am about to dive into an ex 2019 AA service van as a possible conversion to a small camper, Would you reckon an ex AA van would have been serviced correctly and on time? The wet belt scenario is a worry but a full service would pick up any degradation of the timing belt in the oil strainer, If the strainer is clean then is that a clear enough indication of an intact timing belt?
Ford have now changed the mileage and time interval to change the wet belts due to so many dead engines. Pretty scandalous design and wierd with the cams going backwards. Great titorial though mate 👍👍
I'm guessing rubber particles plug up the oil filter so that the bypass valve opens allowing unfiltered oil to pass into the engine and cause damage and blockage. Otherwise, the oil pressure warning would come on earlier, rather than upon catastrophic failure.
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Nice to see someone that doesn't use an impact gun on every nut and bolt. Quality work and no stupid background music.
Great video! You have to question though… in over 100 years of technology. That wet belt situation in 2023 is really the best we could do 😳
I bet someone in finance asked why the chain was specified as it cost more than a belt and then the poor engineers had to go through a load of work converting it to a belt.
I have a Ford Endura here In Australia, same engine. I had previously never heard of a wet cam belt but in my quick research it’s all about refinement. Less noise, harshness and friction giving a small reduction in fuel usage.
I can see why it was done but it just feels so wrong in my bones. Just deciding when I’ll do mine. 100,000 km (60,000 miles) seems like a good spot. Oil interval is 15,000 km but I’ve always done one in between at 7500.
Hands up if you remember doing a timing belt on a CVH in 20 minutes.
or a 1980 transit cambelt in 10 at the roadside, then give the keys back to the customer... [but the cover never went back on...]
I remember it well
Ha yeah and everyone still complained about having to do them rather than having a chain.
Yep did loads ,the good old days when cars were simple
If only engines were still that easy..
I use to rattle spanner’s for a living ! …..you done a great tutorial, top technician …much respect 👏🏻👏🏻
Brilliant. I always used Haynes manuals which I purchased for my Ford Transit. It's worse than useless then I found your how to video. Thank you.
Very clean job that. Most would not bother to wash and clean it down. Proper job!
I've only done one of these, I took in a mates failed diy job and said I would have a go at it. The timing setup, when getting into it halfway through is a fu**ing nightmare. It was on the lift 3 days before I dared to start it, that was after a couple of pints with my mate who's a local Ford parts manager, including some printouts of the job sheet.
That slight misalignment of the crank to idler puts the shits right up you with so many teeth on the crank sprocket.
Cracking job mate, made it look simple and I'm 100% with you for adding a dot of paint when doing timing jobs, even with full timing tool kits. It anything goes amiss you have a visual of where it was when it ran ok.
Really great video. My transit is booked for a change in November here in North Wales. See Ford are recommending change at 6 years or 100000 miles.
I wish I was made aware of the mileage change. I just clocked 150660 miles. Van in at agents today getting belt done.
Cracking video, at least I know what's been done to my van. I think I was lucky to have gotten away with my belt not breaking. Ran the mileage up to 150660 miles before I was made aware of these belt issues.
Brilliant video from a first time viewer. Still chucking at the I never knew my real ladder comment!
Quality video mate, really thorough job and top presenting skills. Great watch.
Just came across this…very professional great insight into the wet belt challenges….. thanks…..
Ive a 2020 custom i change my oil very 5k. Ive had belt done but would love to do it myself next time. You made it look easy enough
Top man. Fanrastic video really well described for a step by step guide. Keep up the good work
Great video mate you have cured me of ever doing one of these lol
Brilliant video, straight to the point no messing around & some humour thrown in as well, Brilliant. 😊
glad l watched this ,Was thinking of getting of a second hand one but not now ,I think sprinter rwd better , thanks
Loved the video as commented before straight to point and no bull ! Quality thanks
The crank bolt tightening procedure is insane! I don't know where Ford get their ideas from. Reminds me of the 6 speed gearbox oil fill procedure on my Focus, fill with oil until it leaks out the hole, then use a syringe/tube to remove the specified amount of oil from the fill hole to reduce down to the correct level! I just sent it with 2 x 1l bottles 🤣.
It's absolutely ridiculous, been honest, all us, including ford warranty guy just rattle the fuckers on, done hundreds of em and never had a problem, that's if they make it to 100k without breaking!
Ugga dugga for the crank pulley
There are two reasons for it. Firstly, it's a stretch bolt (hence it being replaced rather than reused) and secondly. the crank isn't keyed. The front pully essentially "squashes" the timing gear into position to achieve timing. If it's not tightened correctly, there is a chance that the timing will slip, and well, goodnight engine. The reason this is done is so that the timing can be set absolutely. Any machining tolerances are removed. With ever increasing emission requirements, things of this nature are required in order to make "every" engine perform as well as they can. There is also an added bonus in that the entire cost of machining a key way and the actual key is removed from the production of the engine resulting in reduced manufacturing cost.
@@Slarty_42 If you pause the video @11:36 and @11:39 the crank gear is clearly keyed to the crank on this engine. There are still machining tolerances in the zetec/sigma no key crank setups. It's just moved from ther crank key factory machining tolerance to how accurately the crank / cam timing setting tools were manufactured 👍. No wet belt engines for me either way 🤮.
@@Slarty_42 this engine got key but 1L ecoboost got no keys, which does need this kind of tightening.
Great video. Gave me the confidence to tackle one. 2019 at 120,000 miles. Got the kit from Ford.
Didn't have a lot of debris, but the belt was just starting to break up.
Totally absurd idea but if it pays the bills....
Did you just ask for a full wet belt replacement kit ?
That torque sequence is an absolute shambles 😂😂 Awesome video as usual mate 👍🏻😎
Absolutely ridiculous!
Thanks for the video mate. Was struggling to find anyone to do mine, so I did it myself after watching this a few times
I use a wooden hammer handle between a big end and the cylinder block to lock the crank, saves the hassle of dismounting the starter. great video tho, wish it was available before i did my 1st one.
Good video, like to see more of this guy working on cars. Loved it
True full procedure instruction video .insane torque procedure.glad I quit cars 20 years ago .were ridiculous then .taking engines out for starter motors etc .
"My elbow clicks when it's tight enough" 😂 legend we've just had ours done on a 68 plate that brake pedal went STIIIFFFFF nice work michael 👍 👌
Excellent video and work. First time I’ve seen this, sold a 68 plate last year as now retired which I bought new and only had 24k on it with FFSH but this always worried me about these engines
I have had two go bang.
The dealership had a line of them in the storage area
All with the same problem
What was wrong with the old chain system?
Really well explained. I only watched out of interest, having changed the cam chain on our Renault Trafic (which wasworn right out after only 96,000 miles despite a very complete service history). Very similar job. I couldn’t help but notice that you effectively torqued up the “stretch” bolt on the crank twice….but what a palaver it is. I once needed recovery for my motorbike by a breakdown truck (contractor for the RAC). The recovery van only got thirty yards with me before there was a very loud bang from under the engine and the dash warnings all lit up. The crank pulley came off because the bolt snapped.
Ford engine designers be like: "A rubber timing belt, subjected to high impulse loads in normal operation, bathed in hot, dirty oil. what could possibly go wrong?"
The smallest Honda garden equipment motors have a wet belt for the OHC.
Great video !!!
Couple of suggestions if I may. You may well have done it anyway but always a good idea to wipe fresh oil around a new lip seal and its shaft to ensure it starts off lubricated before the pumped oil gets up there.
Rather than use town water in the coolant system I use deionised water to minimise any risk of corrosion, especially if the head or block are aluminium. Town water has chlorine in it plus mineral salts.
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I bought an 18 plate with 41000 miles on the clock a few months ago. I didn’t know about the wet belt issues otherwise I’d have looked elsewhere. It makes for nervous driving.The service history is good. The previous owner had it serviced after 10000 miles from the initial first service at 21000 with ford.I fully serviced it, Castrol magnatec as ford recommends, ford oil filter,air filter,fuel filter, cabin filter at 42000. I’ll continue to have it serviced every 10000 miles. The original service interval stated by ford for this van is every 36000 miles which is totally ridiculous. I’m wondering if it’s worth having the sump removed and checking the oil pick up filter before oil changes to look for belt deterioration ?. I’ve inspected the top smooth side of the belt with an endoscope by removing the oil filler pipe but it’s impossible to tell with any accuracy.The problem with relatively frequent wet belt changes is the cost ( around £1200 or more) and finding a competent local garage to do it
1200 sheets to change a freaking belt?
@@z00h yep, that’s what I’ve heard. It requires a good old strip down just to get to the belts, then you’ve got oil and filter change ( nearly 10 litres of premium oil) . Ford timing belt cover, tensioner , new stretch bolts and belts.Coolant change .and then it’s got to sit on the ramps for probably 12 hours while the gasket sealant goes off before the oil can go in it. A right pain in the arse
36,000miles without an oil change is absolute madness but there again Ford are not paying for the damage this causes it’s the customer who foots the bill every time.
Excellent tutorial , probably the best on TH-cam, credit to yea fella 👏 👍
Top Man, knows his job well.
If they ever do a conversion kit to chain- I’m in!! Mine has 18,000 miles in 3 years as it’s a camper so I know it’s due service after next. Saving up already.
Nice to see correct parts degreasers and sealant etc and loved the coolant device .I worked at b and b motors loughton for apprenticeship then to Keith turner motors in Walthamstow gaining mot licence and then off to i and k brown motors in wanstead . I remember Dennis Golding motors
Great video! Just having our 2019 custom 170 belt done. Had that brake issue, luckily got AA recovered, so belt had not snapped. Our fault, we are shit at regular servicing. Will be better from now on. Think we dodged a bullit.
Nice video. I remembere my first time where I had to change this belt. Took me nearly 6 hours😅. I've done a few since then and got pretty fast tbh. Takes me around 3 hours by now (without the refill of the engine oil). I kinda like this work to be honest😂
Totally disagree with the "if serviced properly" element -I have 12 of these, Ford originally stated fitted for life, then introduced a mileage limiet. We ignore them and change annually -think that is not required? We missed one and it snapped at 18 months. Crappy design and the reason I won't be ordering any more.
Fitted for economic life. ie the typical length of a lease agreement for a new van.
@@davidprentice5442 If only -2017 vehicles, began snapping in 2019. Ford denied any issue, dealer claimed the vehicle had driven through water and hydrolocked. My engineer visited the dealer, they could not provide evidence of a wet air filter or water in the engine. 2nd and 3rd broke the following week. We dropped the oil in the remainder and put cameras up the sump -evidence of the belt material breaking up. We bough a belt from Ford and advised we would get it analysed and compared to the material in the other vehicles...they asked for service records, invoices for engine oil...then started fitting new engines under warrenty. I would guess the issue is stop / start driving (as in lots of engine off, engine on) putting a crap design under pressure. It comes to something when the Fiat engined Ford diesels are the good ones...
Never met my real ladder 😂😂😂😂😂😂 very good 👍🏻
Smash the views on that one pal, cracking tutorial
Brilliant video! Do you fancy doing mine for me? Your work is meticulous and the attention to detail is amazing. I doubt Ford technicians do half that level of work.
Can drop me an email
Don’t judge everyone by your low standards!
@@smedley6444 ??
Where can I find your email address?
Hi how much do you charge to do a wetbelt change @ignitionadvantages6592
Hope prime time see your vid so when they get the bill they appreciate the effort gone in to it
They have 10vans so know exactly what to expect
Shit your on the ball
Should of kept to a chain, after reading so many disaster stories about these engines belts going at 60k I decided to get a low mileage 2012 transit glad i did
your spot on my breaks went very dangerous pedal went hard no breaks if i was speeding on a motorway id be in in big big trouble vacuum pump three months later wet belt snapped new engine its cost ford tensor millions
If it's any consolation (and it probably won't be for you lol) this won't be an issue for much longer as the engine is, as we speak, being converted over to a timing chain. Great video though and really interesting to watch.
Think that is only possible on the 1.8 connect, focus and early mondeo engines
@@metalworker007 sorry, I meant at manufacturing/assembly level.
@@Slarty_42is it really? That’s interesting! Do you have any more info?
An after market duplex chain conversion kit would be a good idea.
Great video. Really helped me out
This chap knows how to do
Done a few of Theese now and use the tool to also alight the bottom crank up makes it easier but as you said it’s 14 turns from the marks to line up again but after replacing the belt you only need to turn it 4 times the top will line up then use the tool to check the bottom then all should be good
So informative great job 👍
Crazy idea ford have done with these wet belts a rubber belt running in oil
@@frasermalcolm2645well he’s not wrong. It’s a great idea to extract more money from customers.
How did you support the engine when you removed the engine mount ?
"my elbow clicks when it's tight enough" hahahha
great video thanks, but how do you support the engine once the mount is off?
Excellent video & excellent job. I have a Transit Custom Torneo 2.0 Eco blue 'Danbury Go' Campervan fitted with Auto transmission, it was 1st reg May 2018 & has only covered 23,000 miles & has had an oil change every year. It's not been subject to the Ford recall & I was wondering if I should arrange for this maintenance job to be done in Spring 2024 as well as it's yearly service, or would the timing belt be so underused that I could change it at higher mileage. The only other factor that I can think of, is that being an Auto the engine rarely revs above 3000 rpm. Any thoughts would be welcome. My 2nd question is How much should I pay for this job to a good independent garage in March 2024? Thanks.
Needs doing at 6 years old regardless of low mileage! £1550 at a Ford dealer in Liverpool.
Don't risk not doing it🤦♂️
@@mickfaragher7897 Thanks, I've just had it replaced, the old belt was in overall in good condition with a small amount of cracking at the base of a few teeth. It was a good call. A Local reputable mobile specialist completed the job & fitted genuine Ford Parts.
@@mickfaragher7897 Good advice. Just sitting in oil degenerates the belt. Time probably is a better measure than mileage.
Excellent Video, nicely done. What was the mileage on that van?
I have a nice long piece of conduit I slide over my breaker bar or spud wrench for those extra high torque applications. :o)
Even with proper servicing, some early servicing these belt shedding rubber. As mentioned vacuum pumps 😢 . All that space to fit a nice meaty duplex timing chain...... One van had oil changes at 6000 miles , with Ford oil and filter , the owner had the belt change at 72,000 miles ......pick up partially blocked. Ford MUST have found this in development/ testing but sent it out anyway....
Can I ask what you have use to support the engine
Great video, did you support the engine from the sump or did you use an engine cradle? I couldn’t see either
Hey, thanks for this. Was wondering if there is any way to check what the belt is looking like before doing this replacement. Would be good to know, to avoid engine damage.
They say to remove glow plugs to ease the engine rotation... Never done it but in this case is it might be worth it 😅
Excellent video. 👍👍👍👍🔧🔧🔧🔧
Great video and explanation……. Have you done any Ford Ranger 2.0 eco blue ones ?
Well done this is how to do it properly not your cowboy garage!
can someone explain the logic behind the crankbolt tightening proceedure.
Excellent video.
This belt, how many kilometers it has traveled.
Thank you.
Personally, i think Ford should go back to Timing Chains rather than wet belts. Granted the chains cost more but the reliability has got to outweigh the initial costs especially when vans are used by tradesman doing plenty miles in a year. I'm now going to investigate to see if my 2015 (64 plate) Ford Ecosport has a chain or a wet belt. If it's a wet belt... i think its a belt change as my car has 51k miles on it now with no evidence of it ever being inspected let alone changed. Great video though.... very educational :)
A simple duplex timing chain and none of this would ever have. Made so much bad publicity and so many people run away from ford, also ford have produced this rubbish and should be the cradle to grave owner of this inherent catostraphic failure like dual mass and like manufacturers who make cars that you can't easily change a bulb without having to remove parts of vehicle, super work though and very well explained you make things looks easy and non confused, top job
Fix or repair daily,what a totally mental design, what were the designers on ?
Fords had a recall on those Transit custom vans. Check that your van has been done, under warranty. Doesnt matter how many owners or miles as its a safety recall. Mines going in next week with 130k on the motor.
Hello, great video. If you get the opportunity could you show how to do an auto gearbox oil and filter change on one of these as there are very few instructional videos on the transition custom. Keep up the good work, Paul
The Transit 2.0 Auto doesn’t have a filter, believe it or not I’ve been to Ford and double checked but make sure you change the oil they’re going at 100k till 120 k I know if six gearboxes have all gone in that mileage range because they’ve not had their oil changed
Educational guy
We’re doing one at the moment on the floor what a pain it is lol plus it’s a high top
How are you supporting the engine with the mount off?
There is a pin hole for the balance shaft that also holds the crank in time with the cams pins. Thank me later .. great video and job.
This engine has no balance shaft
Yep love to find the pr.ck that designed.. the wet belt system
Whoever designed that Engine wants Sectioned then sued. Great video though.
if you removed the engine mount how you supporting the engine?
Do you have too use some engine support when removing the bracket? Is it possible too just leav it hanging ?
Great video.
I don't mean the one at the flywheel end that you used for torquing the pulley. The kit I use has a plate that fits on the front of the crank where the pulley goes. It locks against the left hand timing cover locating dowel. I think it's a laser kit👍
No woodruff key hence the Hulk 🎉torture settings lol good vid thanks for sharing ford Belt in oil against the laws off physics = bad Design
Great video
Would you say a chain is better and does a chain last longer
Possibly, depends on the design and manufacturer, but for convenience and low cost of maintenance an external cam belt is unbeatable. Replacing the cam chain on my Mazda 6 is an utter b4stard of a job, and you are a nervous wreck hoping the cover is sealed properly afterwards, if it leaks it has to come off again, 4 hours work! And, the chain is so puny looking, looks like it would snap in a heartbeat, and of course it can't be inspected without stripping the whole thing down, you just have to wait for the management light to come on or when it suddenly gets noisy.
Nice work 💪is the 1 litre ecoboom pretty much the same procedure?
Double the work for the 1L fiestas i will do a video on the next one i have in
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what did u use to support the engine whilst mount was off
great video
My thaught exactly
Just had 2 Transit engines replaced, one 2019 at 77k miles with blown head gasket, just out of warranty and main dealer couldn't get the injectors out to take the head off, other one 2018 at 120k miles with a broken wet belt (not due for change until 150k). Both bought new and serviced on the dot. I started working on Fords in the late 1960s and changed more Pinto camshafts in the early 70s than I care to remember. Fords were a heap of s**t then and they're a heap of s**t now! I said that to the head mechanic at the main dealer and his reply was "can't argue with you mate, keeps us in a job though!". Prevention is better than cure, the best prevention being to never buy a Ford in the first place!
Remember Halfords used to sell the camshaft kits for fathers day,done loads of them in the 80s.
Do you think this can be done on the ground with no ramp, and is there no issue with not supporting the engine once you remove the engine mount?
Hi mate ,im about to do one of these tomorrow morning , im just wondering, have you left the engine laying on the driveshaft by any chance or it is just me messing about ? Asking as I know on ecoboost engine I usually support them on a jackstand by the drive shaft and was wondering if the engine itself lays on it ??( by the looks of it ) ? great job thank you very much , you make it look like a walk in the park cheers mate , please let me know thanks
Great vid - Horror story of a belt, what div decided to put a belt in oil
Very interesting vlog, I am about to dive into an ex 2019 AA service van as a possible conversion to a small camper, Would you reckon an ex AA van would have been serviced correctly and on time? The wet belt scenario is a worry but a full service would pick up any degradation of the timing belt in the oil strainer, If the strainer is clean then is that a clear enough indication of an intact timing belt?
Ford have now changed the mileage and time interval to change the wet belts due to so many dead engines.
Pretty scandalous design and wierd with the cams going backwards. Great titorial though mate 👍👍
I'm guessing rubber particles plug up the oil filter so that the bypass valve opens allowing unfiltered oil to pass into the engine and cause damage and blockage. Otherwise, the oil pressure warning would come on earlier, rather than upon catastrophic failure.
Is the oil pressure sensor/sender before or after the filter?
Well done good job
I made the mistake of buying a transit custom and have just been quoted £2150 to do a wet belt replacement at Evans Halshaw Ford Bedford
Gute Arbeit, aber wie haben sie den Motor abgestützt ?
Great work and video, how many hours did it take?
wet belt.worst idea in history of anything.peugeot,citroen,vauxhall,ford.all see daily breakdowns
Designed to fail these days
It's a service item now that's why the done it
I am thinking of buying one of these vans. How much do you charge out of interest to change that wet belt ??