If you want to hear more about the things we like about the Tesla Model 3 experience, check out our full 2 year later review of the car here: th-cam.com/video/mGNRIRPMIVk/w-d-xo.html
Don't like the $13K price increase since '21. Your experience having to replace two rims due to pothole damage validates my preference for 18" rims over larger with smaller height tires.
100 Agree with your comments around Car Play. I’m on my second Tesla and truly love my car. However, I travel for business and rent cars all the time. CarPlay is damn near standard and is a huge miss by Telsa. Thank God I use Tidal for streaming, but CarPlay would be a nice feature.
I don’t understand this criticism. There is no way Tesla could support Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. The Tesla operating system is so tightly integrated with the vehicle itself, there is no way they could possibly give the UI over to another operating system.
The difficulty of replacing the cabin air filters myself is the only thing I dislike about my 4 year old Model 3. Otherwise, I can see keeping it for at least another 4 years.
Yeah, that process is a bit involved if doing it yourself, but I eventually got the hang of it. At least you don't have to take out the glovebox like you have to do on some other cars. - Josh
We had some initial repairs (fit and finish issues) very early on when the car was first delivered. Trunk realignment, replacing interior a pillar, he part above the dash was discolored,and tightening a windshield wiper bolt that was loose. Also had the charge port door replaced within the first month or two as well due to a faulty sensor. Other than those early things in the first month of ownership, nothing major until our car was hit from behind and we had to have the bumper and trunk replaced. Tesla service has gotten so much better in the Raleigh area where we’re based. It was a very easy process to have them replace all the parts and blend the paint in-house.
Not a Tesla owner, but the criticism I hear from you and others surrounding carplay/android auto is irrelevant when we're talking about Teslas. The OS Tesla has is far superior to carplay/AA in every way, and does the same things anyway. I seriously don't understand that criticism.
But it doesn’t, Tesla’s OS cannot mirror all the apps people have on their phone. For example, Amazon Music, TH-cam Music, Pocket Casts, Waze, etc. Also, Siri and the Google Assistant (for certain things like playing music) are more useful than Tesla’s voice input. Tesla’s software is great for a lot of things but being able to support a ton of different apps and services and play media is still an area CarPlay and Android Auto are better at. - Josh
1000% agree software updates sometimes change too much at once and you have to re-learn how to do simple functions in the car. There was a brief period where the driver's profile wasn't in the top bar and was instead hidden in a menu. I about lost my mind with that update. I'd kill for just a plain old cruise control to not have to deal with phantom braking. And if I could just get the wiper blades on a stick by the steering wheel back, I'd be a happy lady. The auto wiper blades don't do so well with snow so those cases I'd prefer to manually adjust
Don't miss Apple car play. I get in the car and the most recent thing I played on my phone gets automatically loaded (iTunes, TH-cam Premium, Audible). Also appointments in my calendar with an address get auto loaded into the cars Navigation, so useful and seamless.
I'm going to add another dislike - noise. It's probably fine in california, but on rough northern european roads the road noise is terrible. For a car in this price range the level of sound proofing is inexcusable, and it's my primary dislike of my Model 3. I agree about the software updates - coming out in a morning to find that your car GUI has totally changed and you need to learn it all again is just not acceptable to me. Add features, tweak bugs yes, but don't overhaul and redesign the whole thing (and for the worse). If you don't like rain pouring into your boot, you should move here in Norway and enjoy a couple of kilos of snow falling in there.
When you put it that way, I agree. Commit to a UI layout and design. This is what every other UI maker does. You can fix stuff that needs it without changing the entire thing
No CarPlay is a deal killer for my family. The apps we use have no equivalent in the Tesla nor Google Auto environments. My friend has two Tesla’s (S and Y) and he has his iPhone suction cupped to the dash. Funny that he interacts with a tiny screen instead of the built in huge one. He paid $60k and $130k only to use a $10 suction cup.
Go and wait 10 years for the iCar Tesla is not giving apple all the profit for no investment the day Tesla puts apple car play or android auto 8n here car is the day we need to sell all our stock and invest in the company musk moved too
Yup. But that's what the Model Y offers. If the Y had been available back when I bought my 3, well, it would be a Y and not a 3. Problem is I am not sure I can justify a swap now when there are more utilitarian, SUV like options coming to market from other makes and we still have an ICE truck to replace. This may be our first and last Tesla if they don't offer more models soon.
I dislike Android Auto, don't miss it in the least. Tesla streaming works great for me. Continually having my phone plugged into the car, as Android Auto requires, is not something I like. Phantom braking is a big pain; I totally agree, normal cruise control would be a great great addition. I particularly dislike that Teslas cruise control forces the windshield wipers to be on when the car detects rain. The windshield wipers go into auto mode and freak out. I never use cruise in the rain because of this. I use Rainex, generally don't use wipers. I find wipers irritating.
Excellent points made in this video, Josh! When I ordered my Model 3 in June 2018, the base car did come with ordinary cruise control. $5,000 paid for traffic aware cruise control among many other things and $3,000 paid for the future of full self driving.
We often use Android Auto in our other vehicle and would enjoy it in the Tesla. Still the unavailability in the Tesla is far from a "deal breaker" for us.
I don't think any of these points is a "deal breaker", and I'll probably still buy one, but they don't make one any more confident in their purchase, and it certainly wouldn't help sway petrol drivers if they saw this. Cruise control and trunk dripping don't require new engineering and it looks bad when a car that costs half as much from 20 years ago has it figured out.
If Tesla had an app store and allowed me to download TH-cam Music and Podcasts, I could live without Android Auto since Tesla's GPS is solid. I usually have Waze on in the background to notify of police. Another complaint is when I am in traffic in autopilot, it doesn't maintain a 2 car length. It's not very consistent. The full self driving is definitely not worth the extra $12,000. Luckily, I subscribed to it for only one month to find out that the only difference other summoning and self park is that it changes lanes by itself only when you signaled for it to change lanes. Also, when the windshield wipers are in auto mode and it's misting, I find that the windshield wipers either do not wipe enough or they wipe too much. The 2022 Model 3 Performance is engineered amazingly. My complaints are not with the vehicle itself, just with the software integration.
I just want something engaging and fun to drive. I opted for a STI over a model 3 model y and mach e. I looked at all, and decided a stick shift manual was my favorite to drive, most enjoyable and overall more satisfying
As an EV and stick shift fan I sadly have to concur on the stick shift front. That aspect of driving is fun, but probably won"t ever be a mass production thing in the EV realm. Even in the ICE realm sticks are becoming very hard to find.
@@forumtyish luckily for us, we get to have a world woth a limited supply and can still use them freely, because once they stop being in production, their prices will skyrocket, they will become prices possessions and they'll be the new classic cars.
Had mine almost 3 years now. The only bad thing is customer service, it's awful. They don't replace anything under warranty, wait times for parts are ridiculous... I really like Model 3, I think quality is good for a car that starts at that price. But they skimped on the refresh of the S/X, it's missing a lot for a car that is over $100k. No accent lighting inside, no proper screen option for rear passengers, no powered front trunk, no HUD...
@@esquiredan2702 Consider yourself lucky? They don't even replace the bubbling headrest, they tell people it's their oily hair! By delays I meant parts for accident repairs.
I sum up my Tesla experience, after 1 year of 3LR ownership, in this way. As long as you just treat it as an efficient EV car/motor combo and don’t get distracted by the spurious and flawed form over function issues; a retrograde move by Tesla in more ways than I care to list here but do ask, you’ll be okay. It’s only when you try to use it as advertised that problems occur. Most of the design issues appear to be due to Tesla designers skateboarding to work in checked shirts while carrying a Latte and spending lunch breaks in sensory deprivation pods, rather than being car designers. I would choose Hyundai or Kia over Tesla
I am all for EVs but 100% not the price. Paid $1,900 for my 03 Toyota Echo, getting 36mpg commuting 100 miles a day, insurance is dirt cheap and dirt cheap maintenance costs. To save the same amount of money I'd need to drive a Tesla for like 90 years assuming it had a lifelong battery which it doesn't 🤣
@@ghosts288 I know right? I mean the next gen car should be like 500% better but it's not. I can buy both and end up saving more money with the old gen 😁
@@j887276 my point was you could put almost any new car in your analogy and the new car would always be more expensive than your 03 toyota, but also probably have way more features and conveniences. no offense but i doubt anyone would trade their tesla to drive your toyota echo. if reliability and frugality is your thing that’s cool, but it doesn’t mean that the tesla isn’t “worth” it’s price to the people who buy them or that your comparison makes any sense at all
@@pepper0075 you would be hard pressed to find a comparable EV to the model 3 that costs much less. i agree the value has diminished a bit with the recent price hikes, but every car manufacturer is raising prices right now due to shortages
100% agree, ! You forgot Musk’s decision of opening superchargers to other brands. This is one of the reasons why I sold my M3 Performance. Erratic Musk is the worst of owning a Tesla.
fair points, im buying a model 3 later (the same color as you actually) but waiting for now. Prices have increased 5K just in a short period of time and i believe it will get stabilized if i wait a while. Now it is even talks about NOT including the home charger cable in new cars etc which is a bad move. I want the car though
Oddly yes, I know people have complaints about them but for me they've worked fine most of the time and I almost never interact with the wiper blade UI to manually set it. Auto does the job most of the time
I find it striking how experiences differ so much with the Tesla auto wipers. I also think they suck and have to take manual control, which is something the UI is not well designed for due to lack of hard controls - Give me a wiper stalk! Thing is, before the Model 3 in 2018 I had an 11 year old BMW with auto wipers using a rain sensor that worked in nearly flawless fashion. I had a friend with an even older Cadillac that also had great auto wipers.
Some of these are just plain unprofessional. I'm a pretty enthusiastic supporter of Tesla and Musk for their engineering innovations, but they prioritize flashy numbers for young investors rather than long term customer experience, and it shows. The UI looks much worse now than it did when I first rode a model 3, and the more time you spend staring at it to get basic functions to work, the more danger you are to the road. My impala from 2007 doesn't dump water in the trunk because there's a gutter that the water flows into, and since the gutter is inside the trunk, it doesn't obstruct airflow. Why can't a brand new, luxury-priced car figure that out?
Why didn't tesla want to fully integrate Google as map and navigation aids system? It was a sad move, why would they want to reinvent maps systems?? Google is an awsome map system! So many bucks in the software. Will they ever be corrected???
They use Google's traffic data for routing and real time traffic I believe and then use some other map data to build out the road networks and such. - Josh
How do you feel about the lack of buttons for simple stuff like climate control? My experience of trying to use a touch screen whilst driving is that it is much more difficult and requires a lot more concentration (away from the road) than buttons, where most of the action is done through feel. Such buttons could easily be linked to the software for a hybrid control system. Or am I wrong? What is your experience? Also, it strikes me a HUD would be nice!
I don’t mind it for climate as much because you adjust and memorize where the buttons always are on the screen for turning the temp up and down. Another thing I use that I forgot to mention is voice commands. They work very well for doing things like “turn on recirculated air” and so on. A HUD would be cool, but after 4 years, I don’t think it’s necessary to be honest. There is something very nice about the low dash in the car and being able to just watch the road and drive. The speed limit current speed part of the display are good enough where I’m not sure a HUD is necessary (though it would be very cool). - Josh
For sure, my 2018 model 3 is not perfect. I am on the Beta program and while I experience phantom braking, I find that most of the time when it does it, it's just dropping a few mph so it hasn't been scary. There have been some things that for sure it needs to improve on some more, but the progress has been notable and I'm happy to offer my assistance to help make to program better. And for road trips, I do find that driving in Autopilot (as oppposed to FSD) is much less fatiguing and in some cases I find that it's safer since I can be more aware of what's happening around me knowing the car has got the basic stuff handled. Regarding Android Auto, my experience w/ those systems is that it takes over the whole screen so that basically over-rides the Tesla controls which would be bad. If the two could co-exist in a functional way, maybe this could be ok. But I'm perfectly happy w/ the existing UI since most of my interactions w/ the car controls is using voice activation. And the Tesla UI, I think, is really quite good, so again, I do not miss Android Auto.
It's a bit funny to hear complaints about bad alication or that it's hard to connect to phone Using bluetooth. Not to mention that quantity doesn't mean quality. Where are tesla rodster and cyber truck.? A lot of publicity for empty promises.
*late promises. It's no secret that Tesla has always had trouble bringing new products to production, but he always comes through eventually. very very late, but eventually. He has been quoted as having said he deliberately gives himself unrealistic deadlines, because in working to achieve impossible rates, he achieves a good rate.
Would love to own a Tesla. But not without Android Auto or Car Play. I've gotten used to it on rental cars and would not get another vehicle without. In fact, I would consider a 2017 Bolt with Android Auto as a place holder until Tesla has one. But by then, I might be getting a different brand all together. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe the Cadillac, or the VW, or a Subaru? Ed: (I don't recall if Rivian is AA or CP compatible)
@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate First of all it's the safety aspect of not having to jostle my phone around. It's two main things related to maps for me. First is that it is easier/safer to reroute on that big screen, while driving, in case there is traffic on your normal route. I usually remember to check the route to the grocery store before I leave, so I know if there's a particular way I should NOT go. But the real keen thing I've noticed is for when I'm going somewhere I'm not familiar with. If I have a calendar event with the location filled out, Google will import that location before the calendar event, and the car will prompt me if that's where I want to go. So as long as it's in the calendar correctly, I don't make a mistake and put the wrong place in. It's the tiniest detail. But really, daily I would like to ensure I'm not about to get on a highway with backed up cars, and fuss with my phone to check it.
Would never own a crapple product. So no use for car play. I'm okay without Android auto too. In my other vehicles that have it I rarely if ever use it.
Toyota just said that they would go to vision only automation. That said, there was a good reason to move away from radar. Elon just didn't pull that out of his butt. He said Tesla has tons of data where the vision system conflicted with the radar system. Upon further analysis at the Tesla mothership, the radar was found to have been wrong. Radar was not worth installing nor maintaining the software for and so all future efforts will go towards vision data collection and analysis. ps: my wish for vision would be to include thermal vision cameras to scan left and right forward for dogs, cats, deer and kids, even at night.
"ps: my wish for vision would be to include thermal vision cameras to scan left and right forward for dogs, cats, deer and kids, even at night." Yes! I've been thinking the same thing for years.
I agree. The vision based system makes sense, but it should definitely be better than human vision, not restricted to it. Thermal imaging is super important for states with a lot of wildlife on the roads
Man y’all are some entitled ass people 😂 “no CarPlay is a deal breaker for me” bruh I use a freakin aux cord through an fm transmitter in my 2010 hybrid 🤣
I have a Subaru with a stereoscopic dual camera system regulating my adaptive cruise control (no radar). I have had zero phantom braking incidents in my four years of ownership and I use the system daily. I have driven many vehicles that rely on radar and all of them have had phantom braking issues. I agree with Elon based on my own experience the camera system is better.
wah, wah, wah. Being that you are wearing a Tesla T-shirt it would seem that you must like your Tesla and this video is more for you to get hits on your channel. Just saying...
...yes. He has stated that he does, in fact, like his car. Now you are shaming him for not being a Musketeer and pointing out things that he doesn't like? Is he a hypocrite because he can like something, but still accept it's shortcomings and be transparent and inform others about those? Is it your belief that if you love something you should keep quiet and be unwilling to talk about the things that can be improved upon?
My perfect car is an electric sports/muscle sedan with android auto, and it's surprising that it doesn't exist yet. The model 3, mustang Mach e, and most sports cars fill 2/3 of those criteria, but none satisfy all 3. I can't imagine it being far away, so whoever figures it out will get my next purchase
Not having Android or Apple Auto doesn’t matter to me. Tesla inbuilt Maps, Navigation, Spotify is much better and ahead than android auto. On top of that to let Android or Apple auto in the Tesla environment is creating opportunities for the key Tesla feature autopilot to be hacked by tons of other apps supported by those platforms
I didn't know Tesla didn't support carplay or Android but that's definitely a deal breaker. Anyways, there will be much better options around towards the middle of the decade
I’ve had my Model 3 four years. Your negatives complaints are inane. I’m so happy I don’t have Apple CarPlay. In fact if it would be forced on me through a software update I’d very likely get rid of the car.
༒Gorm Auslander༒ Seems kinda petty considering you don't have to use it if you don't want to. If you hate having the car so much that something so inconsequential would tip the scale for you, why not do it now?
As of right now my next car will be an EV but I don’t know about Tesla. I’m between the F150 or the Mach-E. Tesla is a great Tech car but not a great car. They have the best charging station than any other EVs.
Your IU opinions are subjective, and many like the newer UI updates. The best UI upgrade Tesla can make, is a option for parents to remove Disney+ from the infotainment menu forever! All the other infotainment stuff you start out with, frankly are lame whiny stuff. Tesla's are for driving, not for sheep-gaming. If you're being paid to throw shade on Tesla or question Elon, all the eloquent intonation and video editing in the world is not going to keep intelligent people from seeing right through you. One serious problem with your video right now is timing, right when the corrupt establishment is shaking about losing their corrupt control as a result of Elon being for the people, in everything he does and makes. You made a few Tesla related videos in your first year or two of Tesla ownership, and then hardly anything on Tesla since then until suddenly now you've somehow got to throw a little shade right after Elon gets two factories online. You're acting like paid establishment puppets, with the caliber of Ben Sulking, Doug DeMoron, Engineering MisExplained, Scotty Kilmer. Most of your points you tried to sound byte were outdated and already improved upon. It's obvious you were targeting viewers who were just beginning to do their research and don't yet know much in depth about Tesla. Your earlier videos were objective and good, but now someone has got to you - very very disappointing.
I'm amazed every time I find someone like this on the internet. Here, you dropped your tin foil hat. You're gonna need it to protect your brain from the Elon haters. Goodness knows it's already so fragile and probably couldn't take another ounce of valid criticism.
Bots or bot-minded trolls never address any single concise point. If their reply is so generic it could go under anyone's post, then it's nothing but worthless canned narcissism easily ignored.
@@anthonydaxis1209 That's such a funny way to invalidate someone's input. It's basically my fault that there are so many things strung one after the other that are completely bonkers that it would take more energy than it's worth to sort through all the garbage and find a point I could even make. You must be right because you spew so much all at once nobody wants to have a reasonable conversation with you
If you want to hear more about the things we like about the Tesla Model 3 experience, check out our full 2 year later review of the car here: th-cam.com/video/mGNRIRPMIVk/w-d-xo.html
I live in RDU Incase you wanna sell your car...
Don't like the $13K price increase since '21. Your experience having to replace two rims due to pothole damage validates my preference for 18" rims over larger with smaller height tires.
I miss carplay, because the Tesla Navigation isn’t good..
it takes me on some weird routes sometimes for sure
I agree 100%. Phantom breaking sucks. Just did a road trip. Phantom breaking was occurring about every 20 minutes.
Wow
100 Agree with your comments around Car Play. I’m on my second Tesla and truly love my car. However, I travel for business and rent cars all the time. CarPlay is damn near standard and is a huge miss by Telsa. Thank God I use Tidal for streaming, but CarPlay would be a nice feature.
I don’t understand this criticism. There is no way Tesla could support Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. The Tesla operating system is so tightly integrated with the vehicle itself, there is no way they could possibly give the UI over to another operating system.
The difficulty of replacing the cabin air filters myself is the only thing I dislike about my 4 year old Model 3. Otherwise, I can see keeping it for at least another 4 years.
Yeah, that process is a bit involved if doing it yourself, but I eventually got the hang of it. At least you don't have to take out the glovebox like you have to do on some other cars. - Josh
am baffled that Tesla could not engineer a better placement for the air filter...
@@garybean2205 AFAIK the new ones are easier.
A bit inconvenient because of the locations of some of the fasteners. The top screw location is in a different location in the current models.
good one!
wow omg thanks :) btw its my dream to buy a tesla
What about reliability? You touched on it briefly - apart from expected wear and tear (tires, wipers etc.) any major repairs?
We had some initial repairs (fit and finish issues) very early on when the car was first delivered. Trunk realignment, replacing interior a pillar, he part above the dash was discolored,and tightening a windshield wiper bolt that was loose. Also had the charge port door replaced within the first month or two as well due to a faulty sensor. Other than those early things in the first month of ownership, nothing major until our car was hit from behind and we had to have the bumper and trunk replaced. Tesla service has gotten so much better in the Raleigh area where we’re based. It was a very easy process to have them replace all the parts and blend the paint in-house.
@@6MonthsLater Thank you for sharing your experience! That puts me at ease. I just collected my first ever Tesla and was curious about reliability.
Not a Tesla owner, but the criticism I hear from you and others surrounding carplay/android auto is irrelevant when we're talking about Teslas.
The OS Tesla has is far superior to carplay/AA in every way, and does the same things anyway. I seriously don't understand that criticism.
But it doesn’t, Tesla’s OS cannot mirror all the apps people have on their phone. For example, Amazon Music, TH-cam Music, Pocket Casts, Waze, etc. Also, Siri and the Google Assistant (for certain things like playing music) are more useful than Tesla’s voice input.
Tesla’s software is great for a lot of things but being able to support a ton of different apps and services and play media is still an area CarPlay and Android Auto are better at. - Josh
I'm getting a Kia EV6 to replace my model 3. I've had a good run with it but I need more consistency and practicality
What's been inconsistent with the m3
@@jaredp17 Mainly with Tesla not the car
@@jaredp17 According to this video, every UI update
1000% agree software updates sometimes change too much at once and you have to re-learn how to do simple functions in the car. There was a brief period where the driver's profile wasn't in the top bar and was instead hidden in a menu. I about lost my mind with that update. I'd kill for just a plain old cruise control to not have to deal with phantom braking. And if I could just get the wiper blades on a stick by the steering wheel back, I'd be a happy lady. The auto wiper blades don't do so well with snow so those cases I'd prefer to manually adjust
Don't miss Apple car play. I get in the car and the most recent thing I played on my phone gets automatically loaded (iTunes, TH-cam Premium, Audible). Also appointments in my calendar with an address get auto loaded into the cars Navigation, so useful and seamless.
Great video man!
Thank you!!
I definitely don’t miss CarPlay and they have added Apple music
I'm going to add another dislike - noise. It's probably fine in california, but on rough northern european roads the road noise is terrible. For a car in this price range the level of sound proofing is inexcusable, and it's my primary dislike of my Model 3.
I agree about the software updates - coming out in a morning to find that your car GUI has totally changed and you need to learn it all again is just not acceptable to me. Add features, tweak bugs yes, but don't overhaul and redesign the whole thing (and for the worse).
If you don't like rain pouring into your boot, you should move here in Norway and enjoy a couple of kilos of snow falling in there.
When you put it that way, I agree. Commit to a UI layout and design. This is what every other UI maker does. You can fix stuff that needs it without changing the entire thing
No CarPlay is a deal killer for my family. The apps we use have no equivalent in the Tesla nor Google Auto environments.
My friend has two Tesla’s (S and Y) and he has his iPhone suction cupped to the dash. Funny that he interacts with a tiny screen instead of the built in huge one. He paid $60k and $130k only to use a $10 suction cup.
Go and wait 10 years for the iCar Tesla is not giving apple all the profit for no investment the day Tesla puts apple car play or android auto 8n here car is the day we need to sell all our stock and invest in the company musk moved too
I don't know why the M3 doesn't have a hatch. That would solve the rain over the glass problem and give better access to that huge trunk.
Yup. But that's what the Model Y offers. If the Y had been available back when I bought my 3, well, it would be a Y and not a 3. Problem is I am not sure I can justify a swap now when there are more utilitarian, SUV like options coming to market from other makes and we still have an ICE truck to replace. This may be our first and last Tesla if they don't offer more models soon.
I dislike Android Auto, don't miss it in the least. Tesla streaming works great for me. Continually having my phone plugged into the car, as Android Auto requires, is not something I like. Phantom braking is a big pain; I totally agree, normal cruise control would be a great great addition. I particularly dislike that Teslas cruise control forces the windshield wipers to be on when the car detects rain. The windshield wipers go into auto mode and freak out. I never use cruise in the rain because of this. I use Rainex, generally don't use wipers. I find wipers irritating.
Excellent points made in this video, Josh! When I ordered my Model 3 in June 2018, the base car did come with ordinary cruise control. $5,000 paid for traffic aware cruise control among many other things and $3,000 paid for the future of full self driving.
I'd rather not have autopilot if it means I can't have standard cruise control.
We often use Android Auto in our other vehicle and would enjoy it in the Tesla. Still the unavailability in the Tesla is far from a "deal breaker" for us.
I don't think any of these points is a "deal breaker", and I'll probably still buy one, but they don't make one any more confident in their purchase, and it certainly wouldn't help sway petrol drivers if they saw this. Cruise control and trunk dripping don't require new engineering and it looks bad when a car that costs half as much from 20 years ago has it figured out.
I don’t miss them although Apple Music would be nice.
If Tesla had an app store and allowed me to download TH-cam Music and Podcasts, I could live without Android Auto since Tesla's GPS is solid. I usually have Waze on in the background to notify of police. Another complaint is when I am in traffic in autopilot, it doesn't maintain a 2 car length. It's not very consistent. The full self driving is definitely not worth the extra $12,000. Luckily, I subscribed to it for only one month to find out that the only difference other summoning and self park is that it changes lanes by itself only when you signaled for it to change lanes. Also, when the windshield wipers are in auto mode and it's misting, I find that the windshield wipers either do not wipe enough or they wipe too much. The 2022 Model 3 Performance is engineered amazingly. My complaints are not with the vehicle itself, just with the software integration.
I am a big Android Auto fan, however I don't miss it in my Tesla.
I just want something engaging and fun to drive. I opted for a STI over a model 3 model y and mach e. I looked at all, and decided a stick shift manual was my favorite to drive, most enjoyable and overall more satisfying
As an EV and stick shift fan I sadly have to concur on the stick shift front. That aspect of driving is fun, but probably won"t ever be a mass production thing in the EV realm. Even in the ICE realm sticks are becoming very hard to find.
@@forumtyish luckily for us, we get to have a world woth a limited supply and can still use them freely, because once they stop being in production, their prices will skyrocket, they will become prices possessions and they'll be the new classic cars.
Had mine almost 3 years now. The only bad thing is customer service, it's awful. They don't replace anything under warranty, wait times for parts are ridiculous...
I really like Model 3, I think quality is good for a car that starts at that price. But they skimped on the refresh of the S/X, it's missing a lot for a car that is over $100k. No accent lighting inside, no proper screen option for rear passengers, no powered front trunk, no HUD...
I’ve had only minor replacements on mine, but it was always free and handled within a couple of hours
@@esquiredan2702 Consider yourself lucky? They don't even replace the bubbling headrest, they tell people it's their oily hair!
By delays I meant parts for accident repairs.
they fixed my trunk misalignment for free and were super nice about it. i think it depends on the service center you get
They literally have to replace parts under warranty, by law.
I sum up my Tesla experience, after 1 year of 3LR ownership, in this way. As long as you just treat it as an efficient EV car/motor combo and don’t get distracted by the spurious and flawed form over function issues; a retrograde move by Tesla in more ways than I care to list here but do ask, you’ll be okay. It’s only when you try to use it as advertised that problems occur. Most of the design issues appear to be due to Tesla designers skateboarding to work in checked shirts while carrying a Latte and spending lunch breaks in sensory deprivation pods, rather than being car designers.
I would choose Hyundai or Kia over Tesla
I am all for EVs but 100% not the price. Paid $1,900 for my 03 Toyota Echo, getting 36mpg commuting 100 miles a day, insurance is dirt cheap and dirt cheap maintenance costs. To save the same amount of money I'd need to drive a Tesla for like 90 years assuming it had a lifelong battery which it doesn't 🤣
comparing a new next gen technology car with an almost 20 year old toyota is not even close to a fair comparison
@@ghosts288 I know right? I mean the next gen car should be like 500% better but it's not. I can buy both and end up saving more money with the old gen 😁
@@ghosts288 Elon promised this car to be accesible, yet right now is more expensive than some luxury saloons
@@j887276 my point was you could put almost any new car in your analogy and the new car would always be more expensive than your 03 toyota, but also probably have way more features and conveniences. no offense but i doubt anyone would trade their tesla to drive your toyota echo. if reliability and frugality is your thing that’s cool, but it doesn’t mean that the tesla isn’t “worth” it’s price to the people who buy them or that your comparison makes any sense at all
@@pepper0075 you would be hard pressed to find a comparable EV to the model 3 that costs much less. i agree the value has diminished a bit with the recent price hikes, but every car manufacturer is raising prices right now due to shortages
We have a Tesla. CarPlay is so important I'm considering adding another display to the car that supports it.
it would be nice to have Android Auto and Apple Play
100% agree, ! You forgot Musk’s decision of opening superchargers to other brands. This is one of the reasons why I sold my M3 Performance. Erratic Musk is the worst of owning a Tesla.
fair points, im buying a model 3 later (the same color as you actually) but waiting for now. Prices have increased 5K just in a short period of time and i believe it will get stabilized if i wait a while. Now it is even talks about NOT including the home charger cable in new cars etc which is a bad move. I want the car though
It's the best color imo, great choice! - Josh
Home charger is now $200 add-on
@@gormauslander yes👍
Great video 👍🏻
ok i never missed apple car play tesla ui is what i use and never look back
So you're happy with the autowipers and the wiper UI?
Oddly yes, I know people have complaints about them but for me they've worked fine most of the time and I almost never interact with the wiper blade UI to manually set it. Auto does the job most of the time
@@6MonthsLater Ok, cool. Mine are complete shit.
:/ sry to hear that.
I find it striking how experiences differ so much with the Tesla auto wipers. I also think they suck and have to take manual control, which is something the UI is not well designed for due to lack of hard controls - Give me a wiper stalk! Thing is, before the Model 3 in 2018 I had an 11 year old BMW with auto wipers using a rain sensor that worked in nearly flawless fashion. I had a friend with an even older Cadillac that also had great auto wipers.
Some of these are just plain unprofessional. I'm a pretty enthusiastic supporter of Tesla and Musk for their engineering innovations, but they prioritize flashy numbers for young investors rather than long term customer experience, and it shows.
The UI looks much worse now than it did when I first rode a model 3, and the more time you spend staring at it to get basic functions to work, the more danger you are to the road.
My impala from 2007 doesn't dump water in the trunk because there's a gutter that the water flows into, and since the gutter is inside the trunk, it doesn't obstruct airflow. Why can't a brand new, luxury-priced car figure that out?
What's the battery degradation like?
Full range right now is showing 297 miles in the app where the car stated off at about 315 miles of range. This is after 4 years and 32,000 miles.
@@6MonthsLater not bad thanks for the info.
Why didn't tesla want to fully integrate Google as map and navigation aids system? It was a sad move, why would they want to reinvent maps systems?? Google is an awsome map system! So many bucks in the software. Will they ever be corrected???
They use Google's traffic data for routing and real time traffic I believe and then use some other map data to build out the road networks and such. - Josh
How do you feel about the lack of buttons for simple stuff like climate control? My experience of trying to use a touch screen whilst driving is that it is much more difficult and requires a lot more concentration (away from the road) than buttons, where most of the action is done through feel. Such buttons could easily be linked to the software for a hybrid control system. Or am I wrong? What is your experience? Also, it strikes me a HUD would be nice!
I don’t mind it for climate as much because you adjust and memorize where the buttons always are on the screen for turning the temp up and down. Another thing I use that I forgot to mention is voice commands. They work very well for doing things like “turn on recirculated air” and so on. A HUD would be cool, but after 4 years, I don’t think it’s necessary to be honest. There is something very nice about the low dash in the car and being able to just watch the road and drive. The speed limit current speed part of the display are good enough where I’m not sure a HUD is necessary (though it would be very cool). - Josh
@@6MonthsLater Thank you Josh!
No one has yet said anything about how a replacement battery costs after the factory one can no longer hold a charge or range is significantly reduced
7k-11k according to this breakdown: www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-battery-replacement-cost-explained/
The battery is under warranty for 100,000 miles, so if you lose over 70% of functionality before then, the cost is free.
Would love to see you review a Lucid Air!
For sure, my 2018 model 3 is not perfect. I am on the Beta program and while I experience phantom braking, I find that most of the time when it does it, it's just dropping a few mph so it hasn't been scary. There have been some things that for sure it needs to improve on some more, but the progress has been notable and I'm happy to offer my assistance to help make to program better. And for road trips, I do find that driving in Autopilot (as oppposed to FSD) is much less fatiguing and in some cases I find that it's safer since I can be more aware of what's happening around me knowing the car has got the basic stuff handled.
Regarding Android Auto, my experience w/ those systems is that it takes over the whole screen so that basically over-rides the Tesla controls which would be bad. If the two could co-exist in a functional way, maybe this could be ok. But I'm perfectly happy w/ the existing UI since most of my interactions w/ the car controls is using voice activation. And the Tesla UI, I think, is really quite good, so again, I do not miss Android Auto.
No android auto and Apple carplay are my deal breakers...and the price.
Yes. I would buy a Tesla model 3 tomorrow if it had Apple car play.
You should give the Polestar 2 a try ;)
The long range polestar only reaches the standard range model 3
There's an aftermarket spoiler for the bottom of the rear glass that solves the rain/snow falling into the trunk problem.
How does it affect range?
Being broke is what’s holding me back from a Tesla
masterworks sponsor? only ballers get that push
It's a bit funny to hear complaints about bad alication or that it's hard to connect to phone Using bluetooth. Not to mention that quantity doesn't mean quality. Where are tesla rodster and cyber truck.? A lot of publicity for empty promises.
*late promises. It's no secret that Tesla has always had trouble bringing new products to production, but he always comes through eventually. very very late, but eventually. He has been quoted as having said he deliberately gives himself unrealistic deadlines, because in working to achieve impossible rates, he achieves a good rate.
100% deal breaker of no Google Auto for my next car
Why is that?
Who tf cares about apple car play just put your music in your phone and connect bt any media will work that way how is that even an issue
Would love to own a Tesla. But not without Android Auto or Car Play. I've gotten used to it on rental cars and would not get another vehicle without.
In fact, I would consider a 2017 Bolt with Android Auto as a place holder until Tesla has one. But by then, I might be getting a different brand all together. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe the Cadillac, or the VW, or a Subaru?
Ed: (I don't recall if Rivian is AA or CP compatible)
Curious.
Which specific functions of Android auto or Apple carplay are the most critical to you?
@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate First of all it's the safety aspect of not having to jostle my phone around. It's two main things related to maps for me. First is that it is easier/safer to reroute on that big screen, while driving, in case there is traffic on your normal route. I usually remember to check the route to the grocery store before I leave, so I know if there's a particular way I should NOT go. But the real keen thing I've noticed is for when I'm going somewhere I'm not familiar with. If I have a calendar event with the location filled out, Google will import that location before the calendar event, and the car will prompt me if that's where I want to go. So as long as it's in the calendar correctly, I don't make a mistake and put the wrong place in. It's the tiniest detail. But really, daily I would like to ensure I'm not about to get on a highway with backed up cars, and fuss with my phone to check it.
Would never own a crapple product. So no use for car play. I'm okay without Android auto too. In my other vehicles that have it I rarely if ever use it.
"braking"
I don’t have a home charger, will using my neighborhood super charger degrade tesla model 3’s battery
In the long run I meant
AA and CP and couldn’t care less for. Tesla UI doesn’t all
we need to complain so they can improve the car
Why would you need car play? You have every freaking things you need within the Tesla app! 🤦♂️
if you use apple music you have to look away from the road to find songs on your phone for one thing.
In 2022 you still need to use Android auto/ Apple carplay on Tesla? Blame
No Android auto is a deal breaker. No tesla for me.
Whyfore
Toyota just said that they would go to vision only automation. That said, there was a good reason to move away from radar. Elon just didn't pull that out of his butt. He said Tesla has tons of data where the vision system conflicted with the radar system. Upon further analysis at the Tesla mothership, the radar was found to have been wrong. Radar was not worth installing nor maintaining the software for and so all future efforts will go towards vision data collection and analysis. ps: my wish for vision would be to include thermal vision cameras to scan left and right forward for dogs, cats, deer and kids, even at night.
"ps: my wish for vision would be to include thermal vision cameras to scan left and right forward for dogs, cats, deer and kids, even at night." Yes! I've been thinking the same thing for years.
I agree. The vision based system makes sense, but it should definitely be better than human vision, not restricted to it. Thermal imaging is super important for states with a lot of wildlife on the roads
Man y’all are some entitled ass people 😂 “no CarPlay is a deal breaker for me” bruh I use a freakin aux cord through an fm transmitter in my 2010 hybrid 🤣
LOL. I'm down with the aux cord due to audio quality compared to subpar Bluetooth codecs. But then you said FM transmitter and I was out. 🙂
I have a Subaru with a stereoscopic dual camera system regulating my adaptive cruise control (no radar). I have had zero phantom braking incidents in my four years of ownership and I use the system daily. I have driven many vehicles that rely on radar and all of them have had phantom braking issues. I agree with Elon based on my own experience the camera system is better.
Thanks you for sharing
oh fuck tesla!
wah, wah, wah. Being that you are wearing a Tesla T-shirt it would seem that you must like your Tesla and this video is more for you to get hits on your channel. Just saying...
...yes. He has stated that he does, in fact, like his car. Now you are shaming him for not being a Musketeer and pointing out things that he doesn't like? Is he a hypocrite because he can like something, but still accept it's shortcomings and be transparent and inform others about those? Is it your belief that if you love something you should keep quiet and be unwilling to talk about the things that can be improved upon?
My perfect car is an electric sports/muscle sedan with android auto, and it's surprising that it doesn't exist yet. The model 3, mustang Mach e, and most sports cars fill 2/3 of those criteria, but none satisfy all 3. I can't imagine it being far away, so whoever figures it out will get my next purchase
I was considering buying a Tesla, and not having the Android auto is a show stopper for me. 😔
Not having Android or Apple Auto doesn’t matter to me. Tesla inbuilt Maps, Navigation, Spotify is much better and ahead than android auto.
On top of that to let Android or Apple auto in the Tesla environment is creating opportunities for the key Tesla feature autopilot to be hacked by tons of other apps supported by those platforms
I didn't know Tesla didn't support carplay or Android but that's definitely a deal breaker. Anyways, there will be much better options around towards the middle of the decade
Curious.
Which specific functions of Android auto or Apple carplay are the most critical to you?
@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate I second this. What can android auto do that the tesla cant?
I’ve had my Model 3 four years. Your negatives complaints are inane. I’m so happy I don’t have Apple CarPlay. In fact if it would be forced on me through a software update I’d very likely get rid of the car.
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Seems kinda petty considering you don't have to use it if you don't want to. If you hate having the car so much that something so inconsequential would tip the scale for you, why not do it now?
As of right now my next car will be an EV but I don’t know about Tesla. I’m between the F150 or the Mach-E. Tesla is a great Tech car but not a great car. They have the best charging station than any other EVs.
No Cybertruck?! 😂
Your IU opinions are subjective, and many like the newer UI updates. The best UI upgrade Tesla can make, is a option for parents to remove Disney+ from the infotainment menu forever! All the other infotainment stuff you start out with, frankly are lame whiny stuff. Tesla's are for driving, not for sheep-gaming. If you're being paid to throw shade on Tesla or question Elon, all the eloquent intonation and video editing in the world is not going to keep intelligent people from seeing right through you. One serious problem with your video right now is timing, right when the corrupt establishment is shaking about losing their corrupt control as a result of Elon being for the people, in everything he does and makes. You made a few Tesla related videos in your first year or two of Tesla ownership, and then hardly anything on Tesla since then until suddenly now you've somehow got to throw a little shade right after Elon gets two factories online. You're acting like paid establishment puppets, with the caliber of Ben Sulking, Doug DeMoron, Engineering MisExplained, Scotty Kilmer. Most of your points you tried to sound byte were outdated and already improved upon. It's obvious you were targeting viewers who were just beginning to do their research and don't yet know much in depth about Tesla. Your earlier videos were objective and good, but now someone has got to you - very very disappointing.
V11 is a complete fiasco and nearly ruins the car.
I'm amazed every time I find someone like this on the internet. Here, you dropped your tin foil hat. You're gonna need it to protect your brain from the Elon haters. Goodness knows it's already so fragile and probably couldn't take another ounce of valid criticism.
Bots or bot-minded trolls never address any single concise point. If their reply is so generic it could go under anyone's post, then it's nothing but worthless canned narcissism easily ignored.
@@anthonydaxis1209 That's such a funny way to invalidate someone's input. It's basically my fault that there are so many things strung one after the other that are completely bonkers that it would take more energy than it's worth to sort through all the garbage and find a point I could even make. You must be right because you spew so much all at once nobody wants to have a reasonable conversation with you