1) Teslas and a lot of other EVs are cheaper to run but are too expensive to purchase for most people right now, especially if you’re outside the U.S (this is normal for new tech). However there will be a crossover point in the next few years where they’re as affordable if not cheaper than a traditional ICE car. 2) The range offered by most EVs at the moment is absolutely fine for city dwellers that don’t need to travel far on a regular basis. ICE cars still win hands down for longer distances at the moment. 3) There is some logic to arguments against how quiet EVs are and how that makes them dangerous to pedestrians. Yes, you can say pedestrians need to be more aware, but that will never be the case. Artificial noises should be used below certain speeds in busy or tight pedestrian/residential areas - loud enough for people to hear but not so loud it takes away the advantage of having quieter streets. 4) Right now Teslas are a status car in the UK, there is no disputing it. That will probably change. 5) Autonomous driving is a no-brainer for motorway style driving, but it will be slow to catch on and work well enough for any other roads, particularly in the UK. 6) More manufacturers should follow suit with Tesla with regards to the use of multiple in built vehicle cameras as it’s a no brainer from an insurance and investigation perspective. 7) There is some ignorance going on across all levels with regards to EV battery longevity. Manufacturers are going to need to start factoring that in to warranty for their vehicles as people will start to notice issues over the next few years. 8) Charging infrastructure in the UK is not great, but it will get better. It needs to otherwise there will be chaos at charging stations as not everyone has the luxury of off road parking. 9) Repair shops (garages for UK people!) will have to start adapting quickly to be able to fix/maintain EVs by training staff, otherwise they will become obsolete. 10) EVs are not complicated, in fact they’re simpler. There will be EV nay-sayers just like with anything new but they will adapt and forget about it eventually. 11) Excluding battery issues, maintenance is cheaper, tyres, brake pads etc (think about the sheer amount of engine oil that has to be disposed of every day at the moment). Theoretically with such low maintenance costs and parts EVs might ever only really need their battery packs changing so you could end up using and owning one for a VERY long time. 12) They don’t take as long to charge as some people think (and most people stop regularly when travelling) but they’re still slower at topping up compared to ICE vehicles which is only really an issue if you’re in a rush which you can never plan for. 13) Renewable energy must be adopted quicker so the electric used to charge EVs comes from sustainable sources (there is some logic to people who say they still get charged by electric from fossil fuel power plants) 14) No one really has any interest in top speed anymore for road cards (nor should they ever have!), it’s all about acceleration which EVs are generally better at. 15) Like any technology, it will get better.
On 13, it would be great, but it's not a requirement. Small scale ICEs are less efficient than real power plants, so even if that's the case, it's still a good thing.
@@Samuel2oh9 I was the same. ICE all my life. Last car RS4. Went through the whole regretting ordering the Tesla. Very happy with it. Only regret is that I didn’t do it years ago!
I've had the Model 3 LR AWD for over two years, love it. Over that time I've learned for home charging, just set it to 90% and charge it every day. That will help the battery pack stay calibrated and thus maintain your battery range. Set the battery meter to the top daily driving notch, right before the trip section. It may not say 90% in the app at that top notch because of the battery being cold if its cold where the car sits. In the app and perhaps in the car the line will snap to that notch when you get close to it, just leave it there. I only change the charge level if I'm travelling and hopping from supercharger to supercharger. If I need to stay at a hotel, I go back to leaving it at the top daily notch. I rarely charge it to the tippy top, 100% or top of the trip section, but it is good once in a while to aid in that battery calibration. If you charge to 100%, use the departure time setting so you are using the car soon after hitting 100% to be less hard on the battery. Keeping the battery between 20-80% is a decent way to go, but I think it's totally fine to be in the 10-90% range too. I think it's actually just as hard or harder on the car battery being closer to the bottom of the charge, so I do tend to keep it above 15%. Remember that you can use that tippy top of the battery or get pretty close to the very bottom of the battery if you are travelling and not leaving the car in those states for long periods of time, like hours and hours or longer.
Always go with longer range. The value of the car is the range, and batteries decline over time. I bought an S in 2013: it has 86k miles and I have loved it. But the original 200 miles range is now maybe 160 in good conditions, less in winter. I am selling it, and it will be a great luxury car for someone who only drives locally. But I am thrilled to have my new AWD long range (350) 3! Expecting 10 more years of great, low cost transportation, and then good resale as I take advantage of the ever-improving technology.
What kind of region do you live in, if you don’t mind me asking? I live in Columbus, OH where there are charging stations pretty much everywhere. My commute to work is only 20miles. Winters are pretty brutal, but I have a garage. For these reasons, I’m not too concerned about the M3 performance battery
Love my Tesla model Y; the model 3's big brother. I live in California and have my Y plugged into to my solar roof panels. Sadly, my gas guzzling Mercedes 450 SL sits in the garage unused. I have to agree with you, my biggest regret is not switching to an EV earlier.
The most comprehensive study I have seen on moving from internal combustion to electrical power, if I buy another car it will certainly be an EV. Many thanks.
I wouldn't rule it out myself; but specifically for Tesla, I'd wait until they get better door handles and put the panels on straight. Too many bad-design and bad-build-quality horror stories. You see a lot of them here in Phoenix, AZ, particularly in the upper-crust Eastern and Southeastern suburbs. It's partly a status-symbol thing.
The part I agree with is doing this sooner. I went for a BMW i3 in 2019. I remember the anxiety between order and delivery. If you can charge at home, and your average daily drive is within the range of the EV you want, then dive in. The cost of ownership alone is worth it. Yes, range is less in the cold months, but cut the cabin temperature down to 18 deg C and use the seat heater and air con (to avoid misting up) and its fine. The pre-heating is awesome in the winter, always makes me smile when I watch my neighbours scrape their ice cars, I just get in mine and drive off with a warm interior and clear glass, as I engaged pre-heating whilst eating my breakfast. Low running costs, next to no maintenance, no smelly emissions to feel guilty about, smooth quiet driving, instant torque when you need it. Wish I'd done it sooner!
In 2020 I decided not to buy a Tesla Model 3, since then I have been sitting on £45,000 which just sits in the bank waiting for me to decide what to do with it, sometimes I look out the window at my £500 Ford which has not broken down once in 3 years and wonder if I would feel better being £45K poorer, I smile when I think about my neighbours with their bank loans and overdrafts and hear them shouting and arguing about spending the money they dont have, as they trundle off to work, debt slaves every one of them, even makes me smirk a little. It takes all sorts.
Pre heating/cooling it's one of the most convenient thing to have!! One drawback of charging at home, at least to me, was the granny charger (8amps) that came with the car, needing almost 24hours to fully charge. I've bought a 16amps granny charger that let me charge at half the time
@@gtolose gotta agree with frugality, plus, tesla/elon do not share data with any mechanics, so noone but tesla dealers have the ability to fix these vehicles should they break down. If tesla can put out modern eco vehicles that last 30 or so plus years without astronomical maintenance, you will get a positive opinion from the naysayers.
@@gtolose good decision. Teslas are awesome but way overpriced and quality control is still an issue. Tesla is still figuring out how to be an automotive maker. In a few more years when they finish the new factories and streamline the process, prices will decrease and there will be better quality control.
Hi Andrew, nice channel! Things I wish we knew before we bought our Tesla Model 3 Long Range FSD: 1.) Day 1 Reservation Holder would count for nothing - It was fully 3 months after other Tesla owners including two friends (all ordered just weeks before delivery) received their Model 3s. Tesla informed me by text that the delay was because 18" tyres couldn't be fitted to the 19" sport rims. I'm not kidding! Seriously. I posted a copy of the text message to the Tesla Owners Facebook group. It's OK. I forgave Tesla before I'd even driven 2 miles from Tesla Birmingham on the day we took delivery. The car was that good. 2.) We would end up buying a significant number of accessories including covers to go over the scratch prone piano black centre console, replacement front & rear footwell lights (originals extremely dim - none in the rear), rubber floor mats, trunk and frunk rubber mats, mudguards, display matte screen protector, replacement number plates (Tesla original plate holders rattle) etc. 3.) Range on our Long Range is only about 40 miles better than the Standard Range Plus. We have a usable range of around 200 miles especially this time of year. It's not a problem most of the time - until we visit North Wales. North Wales is a charge point 'desert' and we drive there regularly from Gloucestershire. Sorry Tesla, the Telford and Warrington superchargers are not in North Wales. 4.) Midnight Silver Metallic is really... grey. 5.) Autopilot can't be trusted 100%. It's sort of OK most of the time on Motorways and Dual Carriageways, but if 'Navigate On Autopilot' is selected, the car will frequently use the wrong lane when leaving at motorway junctions and then sometimes, not even bother to turn off. What's more the 'phantom braking' and completely unexpected swerving on Motorways can be absolutely heart stopping at times. Elon reckons Full Self Driving is almost here and Robotaxis will become a thing in a year or two. No Elon, it'll be another 20 years. Seriously. Program our car to deal with the Swindon Magic Roundabout. That'll be a reasonable test of 'Full Self Driving'. Then I'll have faith. It's fun listening to Elon's predictions and he has pulled off an awesome triumph in sheer inventiveness, design and manufacturing prowess that I'll let him off. Totally agree with you Andrew, Octopus Agile tariff is absolutely brilliant. Talk about saving money on our previous suppliers Ecotricity, nPower and British Gas. We ought to have switched to Octopus years before we took delivery of our Model 3. If you've read this far(!) use Tesla Torque referral code for £50 off your first bill. You'll be helping Andrew / Tesla Torque too. In summary, do we regret buying our Model 3? Not at all. This is a completely astonishing, delightful and easy car to drive. No clutch, no gears, no exhaust, no smelly diesel, no hassle and... no chance of driving it if my wife gets to it first! She particularly loves 'one pedal driving' that brings you to a complete standstill - without needing to use the brake pedal. And we have a 'full tank' plus toasty warm car (or cool in summer) scheduled every morning. Ah, oh yes. Netflix, TH-cam, Games, Spotify. So nearly forgot. Happy teenager too. What a car!
Good overview Bob. All fair and accurate comments. I do agree with you about the reservations holders, I think that was a very low blow. I ordered my Model 3, 13th May 2019, and I think I received mine before a lot of people that had reservations for years in September. I was watching the forums and the excuse was about stock, but in reality these should have been made and produced as a priority for good will of the customer, hopefully they will have learnt for the Model Y experience.
@@TeslaTorque thanks for your reply. I really have forgiven Tesla! I think it's quite extraordinary what Elon Musk and this company have achieved in just 17 years since Tesla was founded in 2003. Yes, there are teething troubles with the various cars they have been released to market and I definitely get the impression that Tesla are still learning some basics about building cars that Ford, GM, VW and all the other main marques have had 100 years to get right. I'll bet none of their cars were perfect from Day 1. And here's the basic truth... you only need to sit behind the steering wheel of a Tesla, any Tesla, to get why these cars are so exceptional. I'm not a Tesla fanboy, but can't help being delighted by the sheer quality of this groundbreaking product. I'm speaking as a former Porsche and BMW owner. None of those cars consistently wowed me the way our Tesla Model 3 does. Keep up the great work on your TH-cam channel Andrew. I've subscribed!
@@TeslaTorque I HAD to buy mine by the end of September 2019; pretty sure Tesla we’re trying to ramp up the sales volume for that quarter; got great purchase price and still qualified for £3,500 government grant which is no longer available for cars over £40k 😀
Mine came on 2nd September which made it a 69 plate, so I was very pleased it just ticked over - although was conscious as I was picking it up from Birmingham that the starting letter was going to be "B", then a random letter. Thankfully it wasn't a "J" and I agree Bob, I don't think we would be anywhere near electrification if it was for Tesla
We’ve had a 28kw Ioniq for 2 years. You can leave it unused for weeks and it still has the same percentage of charge despite periodically auto topping up the 12v battery.
The range is the range. Good practice does not require you to never go above 80 or never go below 20%. Good practice simply demands that you avoid spending significant time above 80 or below 20. If you're on a road trip, it's no problem at all to go up to 100 or down to 0 as long as you are driving and charging right away. The range is the range. For daily driving, it is true that you should keep between 80 and 20. But this is plenty of range for daily driving.
I managed to get a Model 3 though my work running a salary sacrifice scheme. I have to admit that I too wish I had done it earlier. I absolutely love the car, from the drive experience right through to the nice little touches such as being able to watch Netflix if you have to wait in the car while charging or the kids are at training etc. English Country Thing - I would highly recommend it
My wife just changed her petrol Smart ForTwo for the latest Smart Forfour EQ. Range is tiny but it's a city car that only gets used for local runs so no issue for us. (That 8.4 miles average journey is familiar!) It is a better car in every way that the Petrol version and costs less. It's really well equipped too. She is now getting fed up with me as I want to use it all the time! I will definitely get an EV to replace my BMW 540i when the time comes and it's good to see so many more EVs coming to the market
An average 8.4 mile journey is not good for a petrol engine. The car never really gets up to proper operating temperature and the wear on moving engine parts is very high. If you have an ICE car with that kind of average distance journey I would recommend that you take it for a good run up the motorway at 70MPH (or higher if you're brave) 100 miles or so.. You will be amazed at the difference in performance afterwards.
I served my BEV early adopter time in 2 Nissan Leafs over 8 years. In September 20 I took the plunge with a new SR+ and it's been outstanding. That is all.
Haha, a true early adopter. If I had a second car, probably would have made the leap earlier, but range in earlier EVs was the problem for me. All good now though, glad you helped support the switch to EV from an early time.
Okay so here goes, after one week and around 700 miles in my 2021 Model 3 SR+: - The real range has nothing to do with the one the car indicates if you drive on freeways or outside of cities in general. For instance, driving a mile on the freeway at 150-ish (around 90/95 mph) will result in the car's projected range dropping by 2 miles. It's approximatively a factor of 2, so keep that in mind if you do a lot of driving at higher speeds. - Superchargers are awesome. They are very easy to use and reliable, which can't be said about the rest of the charging network. I have yet to try Ionity but most of the non-Tesla chargers seem a bit confusing and I don't understand why you can't just put your credit card in like at the pump. Instead, to operate the charging points, you need a stupid app or charging card. - Use A Better Route Planner. It gives you a more realistic range estimate (you can input your real consumption) and offers more charging possibilities. - You're gonna want a wall charger. Just using the mains, it takes about 15 hours at my home to charge the battery from 20% to 80%. If you're coming from a longer trip in the evening and have another one planned the next morning, that can be an issue. Wall chargers cost about 2,000€ to install and will reduce that to about 5-6 hours I believe. That's slow enough to preserve battery life but quick enough for convenience. - My average consumption so far since owning the car has been of around 185 Wh/km (around 298 Wh/mi) doing mostly freeways. That means that the real range from 100% to 0% is around 270 km (168 mi). Hope this helps
@@jozefa1234 just a heads-up, not a criticism. And it does seem to increase more with speed than in an ICE car. For instance, my previous 320d used around 4.5-5 L/100 km at 80 km/h and 6-6.5 L/100 km at 150 km/h. The Tesla is much more inefficient at high speed vs. low speed
@@TuddecBMW Just to be clear: Tesla (or any other EV) are *not* more inefficient at higher speed but ICE cars are extremely inefficient especially at lower speeds. 1 L of gas or diesel equals to about 10kWh. So your 320d consumed 45-50 kWh/100km at 80 and 60-65 kWh/100km at 150km/h. Even when you add charge losses (maybe 20 to 30%) to the numbers for an EV you will see my point.
My Bolt range dropped a noticeable number of miles when I drove a long distance on the freeway at 75, I think the efficiency went down. Still no problem getting from A to B though.
I drove a friend's model 3 on my Holiday in San Francisco in 2018. I loved the car. However living in Australia, the distances are so vast & the infrastructure for electric cars is just not good enough. So for now, I drive a petrol car, that has an easy range of 900 miles. Not that I drive more than 900 miles in a day that often but I'd say I do that 2 to 4 times a year.
So driving that 900 miles you don't stop to stretch, eat or go to the bathroom. I think you could charge the car during one of those breaks. I don't see the issue. UNLESS - there are not enough Superchargers to load up the battery along your journey.
@@markjeron4616 in Australia we use kilometers, but I convert it to miles. On one trip I drove 1,100 miles over night. I stopped for fuel & went to the toilet once. That took 10 minutes. But usually I drive during the day & would stop once for lunch for about 30 minutes, & my trips are more likely to be just 700 miles long. However Australia does not have a supercharging network & you would not want to go off a major route or your stuffed. If your going from Sydney to Melbourne, like I do a lot, you may get away with it, but I can't drive out of Sydney & Travel west towards the outback, because I would be charging for days in some camping ground that just has 240 volt. For this reason most people who own a Tesla in Australia own two cars in the family. The Tesla they use mostly & they may have a large SUV for long trips with the family. I'm single & only need one car & I drive long distances. However when I go away I'm usually with my none live in girlfriend & we could use her car, but that is small & uncomfortable.
Hi Sun Rise, Thanks for writing back to me. I now see your side of the story. There are not enough super chargers. The car does not have a large enough range for your needs. I was coming from the perspective of living in California where there are ample chargers. Cheers.
I bought an EV in October last year, yes a Leaf which many are critical towards. Myself, I'm loving it. I have driven cars in 40 years now and my evaluation so far is as follows: Incentives like we have in Norway makes an EV a great alternative to petrol/diesel (No VAT, none or reduced toll-road taxes, reduced general yearly car tax) The possibility to charge at home. Fresh 100% battery in the morning Range on one charge is good enough for most people, though rapid charge is available almost everywhere and is heavily expanding As the batteries get better and ranges increases the need for rapid charge will decrease Compared to petrol/diesel, the car is quicker, need far less service and is hands down a better choice for everyday use. Would I buy it if I didn't have the incentives? Probably not. Convenience and cost does matter. Why Tesla wasn't an alternative for me? Because of cost vs applicability. If you past your 50s and 60s, believe me, you want to sit into a car, not down in the car. If someone thinks a Leaf is boring, remember there is 214 brake horsepower there to just catapult you past the cars in front of you.... if you want.....
I went from Macan Turbo to Model 3P September 2019 and have never looked back. Agree that range is substantially reduced in the cold. I generally set climate on about 30 minutes before departure to pre heat the batteries and think this helps a little. Performance is mind blowingly quick to the extent that you rarely have anything to prove. No concerns over servicing costs (unlike the Porsche!) and as you mainly use one pedal driving, can’t think brakes would need too much maintenance either. Whilst build quality is not to German standard, reports of Tesla issues in this respect are in my case, greatly exaggerated. I use the Octopus EV tariff and keep batteries topped up overnight at minimal cost. For me, this car is a no brainer and I can’t see myself ever going back to an ICE car.
I love the fact that people are making the switch and loving it. The sooner we can clean up the planet the better :). Even if that isn't your motivation, like you said they are awesome and green. Win win!
@@TeslaTorque Both things are amazing! You're absolutely right. Even if the intent is to purchase it because you genuinely love it, you are doing good at the same time :)
Owned my LR Y about 5 months now and couldn't be more happy with it. I'm finding that the most common point holding back my friends from getting a EV is the long charge times vs filling up gas. I usually follow up with the question "Lets pretend that charging on a road trip is a HUGE inconvenience which I disagree with... How often do you usually go 250+miles road trips a month precovid?" Majority of these friends say they only go maybe 1 - 2 road trips a month meaning 90%+ of the time, the car is used for regular commuting and errands. In that case, majority of the charging will be done at home meaning it takes 10 seconds to to plug in vs 5-15 minutes of fill up time. Of course, there will be people that go on frequent road trips but those are more special case.
It may be worth mentioning that Sentry mode will turn off when battery drops below 20%. Phantom drain dramatically slows to around 2% per day after that.
Yes, the supercharger network is great. Let's not forget there's a much more prolific network of chargers out there for all the other EVs and it's growing too! EVERY motoroway services in the UK has rapid electric charging (~20mins on a 2gen Leaf). I'd recommend a 2nd hand NIssan Leaf to anyone on a budget, especially with children. If you're on a long trip you drive for an hour, stop, plug in, go for the required toilet break, play for 5mins, strap back in, un-plug, continue! We did that for years driving all around England: Durham, Cornwall, Lake District. It's loads of fun in the lakes: goes for miles, eats the steep hills for breakfast, regens on the way down and the slow down for every bend. Super efficient on country roads, in cities, leaving home with 80% charge every day. Blissful!
Bough a leaf 6 years ago, it was far and away the best car I have ever owned in terms of sheer driving pleasure, comfort etc... Advertised range was ~150 and this was fine for what I wanted it for. Never got more that 88 miles even on a 100% charge in eco mode and in ideal conditions. Had a few 'do I want to be warm, or do I want to get home' moments, and what made me get rid of it was an emergency trip to hospital. I could get there, but wasn't sure if I'd be able to get home. I feel that I was just too early into the market, but I am however, looking again at an EV as technology has moved on significantly now.
Was your Leaf new or used? You should be getting around that range in your city driving if new. It is odd that you get fewer miles on the highway especially at speeds of more than 62 mph (average highway speed limit in Japan).
@@lanceareadbhar The leaf was new, and was mainly driven on rural roads. We were pretty good at home charging and planning routes, but got rid of the car after an emergency visit to a hospital, we could get there, but only just made it home. It was just the sort of unplanned event that happens.
I have a Prius. The bit where you can drive it as an EV is so nice. I also feel quite smug in drive-thru lines because I usually don’t use any gas. I have found certain places where I will hypermile to avoid using gas for as long as possible. Unfortunately it’s still very much a gasoline car. Gas stations, oil changes, no instant torque. But it has outlasted all my other cars in terms of mileage. Toyota did well. Hoping to keep going until I can afford a Tesla.
good job making this video. We have two Tesla and we have done a lot of research before making decision. This is what I want to share. EV is great if 1 you drive/commute less than 80% range of the advertised range per day 2 a reliable stage 2 (240V 32A) charger at the place your live 3 time saving is more important than saving money 4 set the expectation when making road trips 5 least amount of maintenance (no oil change, smog check..etc) Like you said, cold weather like the ski trip we had, drained 15miles per day to keep the battery warm. Other than that, both EVs met our expectation. We come home, plug it in, done in the morning.
Love my Model 3 Performance....real world range with A/C maxed in the desert is about 175 miles doing 75-80 mph tho......if you drive a lot, plan on charging every day if not twice per day
I traded in a Mercedes CLA45 AMG for a dual motor model 3. The acceleration is actually better in my model 3, though the Tesla tires are much less sticky so cornering is not quite the same (CLA45 was going through tires every 15k miles without really pushing it - sticky tires just wear out much faster). The model 3 is really intuitive. The FSD package makes long trips SO much less effort (less need for focus) - and I like driving (having driven over 500k miles). And having charging at home, I only stop for fuel on long trips (no in town gas stops). I just love it. If I was doing it again, I would do a model Y instead to get more cargo space, but otherwise awesome.
I think I will wait until Tesla brings out the $25,000 electric car. I drive very little per day so not really worth it for me. I also have a car that is still good for some time to come.
Great review from someone who researched their choice well and thought things through before and after their purchase. Amusing reading comments from Tesla Haters ..... who just can not help watching Tesla Reviews (and making ignorant comments)! Thank you.
The best thing I did for my model 3 was to buy 2 pairs of hydraulic struts which opens the drink and boot all the way, simple but amazing upgrade help and being around £20 and 5mins to fit was brilliant, hope this helps
When I bought my Kona it was at the time the car with the second longest range after the Tesla. Also when I go on a long trip ( Toronto to Ottawa) I preheat the car and charge to a 100%.. no problem.
Opted for BMW330e PHEV in 2017. Love the car and my lease is now getting over. This time it will be a full EV not decide which one but this video was useful!!
Just ordered a Model 3, partly because of this video. As an electrical engineer, I had a number of doubts about the actual vs advertized specs regarding charging, range, HVAC, etc. This video confirmed most of them and gave me an approximation of the real-world results, which are not as bad as I had imagined. Thanks. Well done!
This Yankee (veteran) ordered the two motor cybertruck. I'm open for suggestions from my UK friends. Maybe I should change to three motors. In America, we deal with longer distance. I'm retired now, but I used to commute 62 miles (99.78 km) one way. On a daily errand trip I can use up over 200 miles (321.87km). Yep, the USA, is a bigger country.
Congratulations on your beautiful car. I bought my M3P in September 2018. I’ve had the pleasure of over 2 years driving this out of this world car. Hard to say it’s a car. So much more than that. My husband just got his 2021 MYP. Life is good 😌.
I am two months into my Model 3 Long Range. The actual range point is a bit of an issue (I did a 36 mile round trip on Friday, which knocked off 80 miles) but I have a home charger. It is a lovely lovely car - and so so fast!
I don't get the "not plug it in". Isn't one of the advantages of an electric car is to always start with a full tank? Plus making sure your Tesla is always running in the 80% - 20% sweet spot.
I would have liked to hear more about the plusses and minuses of the center screen. One Tesla anxiety we have is traveling at high speed in heavy traffic during a driving rainstorm and trying to adjust climate controls to defog the windshield without taking one's eyes off the road.
Windscreen and rear screen defogging buttons are on the main screen (bottom row), so easy to tap without menu navigation. And like Joe says, voice commands help too.
Tesla does not consider charging to 90% to be a problem, though many owners set the limit to 80% for local driving and raise it to 90% when going out of town. Likewise, there is no downside in taking the battery down to 15% or even 10% before charging. In fact, charging from those levels will give you a higher charging speed at a Tesla Supercharger.
It's nice to hear the other side of the coin. The people who sell EV's make it seem all rainbows and unicorns when in fact it isn't. Its nice to see electric cars making greater strides in range and function. One major thing they have to work on is making EV's affordable to everyone, even us ' po ' folks. My ice car cost 6 grand ( C ) or about 3,400 pounds, almost 13 years ago. As we don't drive a lot, it's still a fairly low mileage vehicle and will likely last a number of years more if I want it to. I'd really like an EV but I'm just not prepared to make a major financial investment in a type of vehicle that still needs to be improved. We'll see where things are in 5 more years, both me and my ice car plan to be around.
I hear that many Tesla parts are DIFFICULT to attain (low stocks) causing long service/repair delays. Also build quality has been well below even just an average cheaper car eg. fit & finish of panels.
If and when they make electric cars that are better and cheaper than ice cars I'll be happy to switch over, but EV's are like plastic surgery or hair replacement operations. LET SOMEONE ELSE be the pioneer and buy the faulty products and experience all the heartache and glitches and then buy the product when it's been perfected. So far it's the rich guys who are blazing the trail and getting all the battery fires and so on, and that's fine, when they come up with a workable EV that sells for 20 grand, then I'm in.
Renault Zoe not available in Canada according to the internet, and even if it was, why would I pay 6 grand ( more like 10 grand minimum in Canadian dollars ) when it costs a pittance to operate, maintain and insure my existing ice car. 6 grand will keep my ice car on the road for years, in which time, EV's may advance to the point where they're cheaper and better than ice cars. Then there's Hyundai's announcement of its Vision 2040 plan investing heavily in hydrogen powered cars. It ain't over till it's over and I'm just not going to throw money around until technology evolves to a practical level. Let the rich guys be the trail blazers, I just can't afford to do that.
My range fell from 273-263 miles in just shy of a year and 10k miles driven in my 2023 M3 RWD. Range loss is slowing, but that’s not discussed much. The LFP battery allows me to top it to 100%, but I hate losing range. Fortunately, I can still take my longest vacation trip (177 miles) without needing to charge along the way, even though efficiency is notably shortened when I hang a bike off the trunk. Depending on ongoing range loss, someday I may need to charge along the way.
I now have 78,000 miles on my model 3. I have two regrets. 1. I wish I would have done it sooner. 2. I wish I would have gotten the long range version. But over all I'm very happy.
I've lost about 20 miles range in 78,000 miles. Most of that came in about the first 6 months. When you really do your research Tesla tells you that you will lose about 10% and is normal.
I brought a Nissan Leaf six years ago and I run my battery from 100% to below 10% every day - my battery health is still very strong (> 90%). My tip is (wherever possible) to avoid charging your battery when it's hot - let it cool then charge it.
I own a Model 3 Performance and go from loving the thing to wanting to sell it from week to week. I love the regenerative braking, I think it has the best infotainment system of any car ever, I love that I can sit in the car watching Netflix with the air-con on while my wife goes shopping and the low down grunt is savage. However, the build quality is the worst of any car I've ever owned, the driver engagement is not really there, the suspension is both harsh and jiggly on back roads and floaty a high speeds and I find the steering feel to be numb and the seats, for a performance ca,r are absolutely useless in holding one upright while attempting to steer this boat around a bend safely. Also, the whole charging thing, while in some ways is convenient because you don't have to go to a fuel station to fill up, the need to plug the charger in the minute you get home (something my wife constantly forgets to do after driving it into the ground) is actually quite irritating. Sure, my ICE car needs filling up but that really is only an inconvenience of about 5minutes every 2 weeks. Not as big a deal as the EV fanboys try to paint it out to be. And if I'm honest I think the Model 3 is one of the ugliest, stupid-looking cars on the road. Finally, I own a number of cars and I am a member of a few Facebook and Twitter Groups and I find the Tesla 'tribe' to be the most toxic, overly sensitive bunch of Karens of any of the car groups. Say one bad thing about your Tesla and the shitstorm of cyberhornets that rain on your parade is astonishing. One of my other cars is a Land Rover, a car that is renowned for breaking down and falling apart, but the owners in that group are some of the nicest and funniest people you'll never encounter. Surely they would have more reason to be a bunch of Karens than any other brand but no. They are genuinely nice. So, my Tesla ownership is....uhhhh...strained to say the least.
I agree with you ! I think they are that way because deep down they don’t want to admit after spending thousands they really don’t like their Tesla after the poor quality etc sinks in and a lot of them are Climate warriors and also don’t want to admit that EVs are no where near as convenient or good as ICE cars …in a nutshell buyers remorse their green dogma won’t let them admit
For me, in order to not spend $100/week on gasoline I have to wait for 30 mins to fill my tank at Costco to make it a little cheaper. Still $85 a week. The Tesla, which I don't seem to forget to plug in when I get home, hang out with family, eat dinner and sleep while it charges works for me. But sure, maybe not everyone, especially old school people who think charging a car in your garage is harder than stopping for gas
Lots of good advice here. The only point where I would differ is that I don't think constantly charging an already mostly full battery is not recommended either. Due to battery memory problems. I could be wrong but I thought the advice on most EVs was to do as you were originally doing running to around 20% to allow a fuller charge discharge cycle? I thought this was better for long term health and preventing degredation
My research has led me to a similar conclusion, Phil, regarding best charging practice. I charge my long-range Model Y to 70% (about 230 battery miles). Then I drive till I've discharged 20% (about 65 miles for my model Tesla). When I see that I have about 165 miles left in my battery, I plug in and charge back up to 230 miles (70%). I don't plug in every day.
My model 3 manual says "About the Battery Model 3 has one of the most sophisticated battery systems in the world. The most important way to preserve the Battery is to LEAVE YOUR VEHICLE PLUGGED IN when you are not using it. This is particularly important if you are not planning to drive Model 3 for several weeks. When plugged in, Model 3 wakes up when needed to automatically maintain a charge level that maximizes the lifetime of the Battery."
Yep, Hi Phil and Gill, Kelvin is right. That extract is directly out the manual. It may be different for other electric cars, but the Model 3 should be at around 80% as often as possible. There have been some studies that show between 60 and 80% is optimal, but there is no harm keeping it between these numbers, and is actually advised. You want to avoid lower states of charge and for current Models on the market at least, not really leave it much above 80%, with a max of 90%. (100% is fine for a short amount of time before a long journey, but unless you need 100%, don't charge to it).
Wait until EV batteries die. Only less than 5% is being recycled. They’re going to be like plastic. Anything you get from earth requires lots of energy from fossil or coal
I absolutely adore my Tesla! I had an old Model S (same price as a new Model 3), have given up waiting the Y to be available in the UK, so have just gone for the Model 3 2021 refresh AWD long range. I am smitten. The BIGGEST thing I wish I’d known is - once you have a TESLA, don’t expect ever to be able to go back to a petrol or diesel car! I don’t currently feel the same about other EVs, mostly because of the total lack of charging infrastructure in the UK. Whereas the new V3 Tesla super chargers are so fast now, you barely have time for a coffee and a loo break before your Tesla is ready to take you on our way. Personally I think they are pretty cars, and I love the increasing minimalism which also means that your Tesla can continue being improved with software updates.
I bought my first car three months ago. A 2016 Toyota Prius with 59,000 miles for 16k after fees. It’s a lovely car but it makes me crave owning a real EV when I can eventually afford one (and when I own a house that I could charge it)
Heating uses far more power simply because you need to energize a electrically thirsty resistance heating element ... A/C on the other hand uses a compressor to cool the cabin.
Biggest concern is, for me, battery degradation and effect on selling ? Need to know how much battery revitalisation/ replacement will be as well as battery life span and erosion of range over time.
Early data is suggesting battery degradation is nothing too much to worry about and will outlast the car. Yes you will get some, but shouldn't need a complete replacement
@@TeslaTorque "8 years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period." That is something I would worry about considering that I have a 13 year old truck with 230,000 miles and a 12 year old car with 120,000 miles on them and no degradation in fuel capacity.
Great review! I bought Toyota Prius PHEV, because of my long commute and lack of access to charging station. Even I have only 40-50km on full charge I love driving it in EV and still more then 80% of my driving is pure EV. When it switches to hybrid mode it is still supper efficient but the driving experience is like going back to Stone Age. Definitely my next car will BEV hopefully Tesla :-)
Cheers Hussein, appreciate the comment. I’m trying to be truthful on the channel, even if that does mean saying bad things about Tesla from time to time. They are awesome cars and great company, but even Elon admits they don’t get everything right 👍🏻
Great video. You mentioned shortcomings I had not heard of such as battery life & battery charge depletion during winter months or the lack of good heat.
I live in the US and have had my Model 3 Standard Plus for 4 months. I agree with all of your comments in this video. The one thing I would add is that getting a bug out of the car is daunting. My car required three trips to service before fixing a problem with the driver's window. Tesla provided me a loaner, which was great. They also picked up and delivered my car which is 60 miles from the dealership. I still totally love the car in spite of these frustrations, and wouldn't take my money back to get something else if they offered it. Tesla service is great, and their people are fantastic. It is cold near Chicago, so your comments about range in the winter are apposite. Fortunately I have a heated garage, but the range drops about five miles upon leaving home.
I'm jealous of the heated garage, and when you said bug, I initially thought you meant a fly. As I was going to totally agree with you, if a fly gets down the front dash, its quite a stretch 😂. But then realised you meant a fault kind of bug. Annoying it took 3 attempts, but at least they got there in the end
I would like to own an ev but what is putting me off is I don't have a drive way or a garage only off street parking and I rarely get parked outside my home and it's about 20 miles from a EV charging station
Tbh you are never away more than 2 miles from a charger if you live in London, just download zap map app you can see all the chargers, also in the next 2-3 years 70-80 percent of the lamp post will have a socket for you to plug in your car specially the lamp posts outside flats, i have seen quite a lot they have a blue dot light in the lamp post, I’m a cab driver and my Tesla has never run out of charge just plan ahead.
That is genuinely useful consumer information and has given me the confidence to admit that as much as I would like an EV, there are simply too many drawbacks for my personal use case right now. I do not care that my petrol or diesel car does less MPG than claimed because petrol stations are plentiful and in 5 minutes I can go from zero range to 600 miles. The good news is that battery and charging tech is advancing at an astonishing rate so hopefully this combined with some more realistic pricing will bring EV motoring to the masses but right now anyone (with the possible exception of company car drivers) who claims that they are saving money with an EV is probably kidding themselves if they take everything into account, especially with the average journey length that you mention. Surely the best advice for most people right now would be to buy a plug-in hybrid which gives all of the benefits with far fewer drawbacks. I get that for many EV owners, it is not about money but doing their bit for the environment but the reality for many is that they are not able to switch to a more expensive and less flexible mode of transport. Hopefully the government will start to provide a little more carrot and a lot less stick and really help to bring EV ownership to the masses. A couple of final thoughts, why are Tesla still trying to sell us saloon cars when most want hatchbacks and why the return to RWD in EV’s, great for the driving gods but not so clever on an icy B road.
Tesla was dumb with the 3 being a sedan (saloon). They should have made it a "hatch sedan", as I call the Model S. For many potential buyers, the lack of utility of the 3 being a sedan causes many to reconsider. And, many of us don't want an SUV. Here in the USA, station wagons (estate cars) are NOT popular, but hatches of all descriptions are growing in popularity. RWD versus FWD: I think it was smart for Tesla to go with RWD for the lower cost models. The battery pack under the floor is the largest part of the weight of the car. It seems that most Teslas are around a 50/50% front to rear weight distribution. If a Tesla were FWD, it would not give you the traction advantage on snow that you get with an ICE car. At best, your front to rear weight distribution would be 55% front, 45% rear. You really need to be at 60-65% front to be noticeably more advantageous in snow. Also, under hard acceleration, FWD is less than ideal for your steering, due to the rearward weight transfer.
@@snowrocket Fair point re RWD for Tesla, given the amount of torque on offer, keeping the front wheels under control could be a real issue. Just wonder if the same really applies to less powerful EV’s like the Honda E and ID.3 for example. I quite like a “hot hatch” experience and I would argue that in most hands, FWD is probably the safer option.
@@stephencollins7714 FWD IS probably safer, but with all of the required skid/spin control Nanny State stuff on the newer cars, I'm not sure it matters as much. My 2007 Subaru only has ABS, so I can slide it around a lot, especially in the snow, which is great fun! I'm sure a newer Golf GTi or Mazda Miata has stability and traction control that SORT OF limits the stupidity of regular drivers. No matter the car though, if you you do dumb/inept stuff, you can crash it or get it stuck.
I recently got a plug-in hybrid (Honda Clarity) and I LOVE it... for the first 40 miles or so I get on electric! But now I'm wishing I had fully committed and went for a Model 3 instead! So I understand that last point fully! And I think Tesla is, for now and the foreseeable future at least (which, with how quickly things are evolving isn't too far ahead), the only company I would consider buying a BEV from, just due to the super charging network. That really relieves a lot of range anxiety for those occasional longer trips, which aside from cost is the main reason I went with a PHEV over a BEV. Most if not all of the non-Tesla chargers in my area are level 2 only, which would be a nightmare for a long haul trip. Plus, having a super charger nearby means I don't need to install charging station at home. I could just use level 1 charging overnight for my daily driving, and super charging for the long trips. Wish I had just made the BEV plunge, but oh well, I'll drive my PHEV for a for years and then trade in for a BEV next for sure!
I understand the hybrid dilemma. I almost did the same, really glad I didn’t, as there is really no need. The range anxiety is not a thing I’m relived to say. If anyone discusses hybrid with me now, I just say forget it and go all in. there’s plenty of choice now for all peoples needs and life style
2 months ago I bought a second hand model s. Even tough the car is 8 years old an has about 100.000 miles, I agree with you: I wish I switched earlier to an EV!
I’m looking at getting a model 3. I have had my car for over 10 years and it’s dying on me. I have a diesel and my job changed and I only have to travel 1.5 miles a day to work and 1.5 miles back. I think this short distance travel has helped block my car up. Are shorter journeys good for EVs? I would actually walk to work but the kids stop me from walking 😅
😂 o yes that is not enough. Get the Premium Diesel von shell and the diesel Partikelfilter additive "MATHY-DPF Partikelfilter Reiniger Diesel " Now drive to a nice Destination that will empty your Tank in one go. Don't drive to fast but shift agil down so your car is between three thousand and 4000 revolutions all the time. (Drive the last 10 min normal with low Revolution for cooldown!) Your Diesel should run good again. Now sell. Your daily distance is to low. Yes Elektrik is your better choice. But conside4 if you need a car. I would use a ebike for that here in germany. Or i have a elektrik Vespa. Its econelo classic very cheap and fun. And the girls love it when i get them with the Vespa. More than the benz when its hot
2:35 PHANTOM DRAIN is actually a reason to choose an EV over an Internal Combustion Engine car. ICE inefficiencies are way worse than EV PHANTOM DRAIN. You can't even call them Phantom since they are so pronounced and obvious. ***Ice Drain happens when you warm up an ICE car. You get zero mpg when you warm up a cold ICE. You don't really have to warm up a Tesla to drive it. If you want to prewarm the inside, you can if you want. ***Ice Drain happens when you're braking. Your ICE is still sucking up fuel as you roll to a stop, whereas Tesla is putting energy back into the battery using its regen feature. ***Ice Drain happens whenever you're idling, at a stop sign, stoplight, or stopped in traffic (unless you have an annoying ICE Start/Stop system, of course). And by the way, your ICE car's lead battery also drains when you park it at the airport. You'll have to load the engine to charge that on the way home. So yeah, you may have lower phantom losses, but count on your ICE to waste any savings and then some, every time you drive.
@@jocramkrispy305 Most people would. By the way, that survey the media keeps quoting that says, "20% of EV owners go back to gas cars," INCLUDES HYBRID OWNERS!!! That's so misleading. When you mix in hybrid owners with pure EVs, of course you're going to get some people that want to dump them. Hybrids are just wimpy-batteried EVs. They are still subject to the gas car headaches of buying gas, oil changes, etc. In 2021, why buy a car with two propulsion technologies to monitor? Admittedly, for years a hybrid was the most efficient platform on the market. But not anymore.
@@fenderstratguy I guess I'm one of them... I had a Prius as a company car, then changed jobs and had to buy my own, so I got a used low emission (allegedly) diesel
Nice summing up, thanks. Only for my situation (lease) I'm not gonna leave it at home charging all the time. I have a card for charging and that's not for my own cost, if I do that at home it will be. But I have charging options in public at home and at work and also I have the luxury to have a Supercharge point really close as well a Shell Recharge. So I'm not gonna worry too much about that. Also if I'm planning to do a long trip I'm gonna charge it up to 100% just before. With a Long Range AWD I will get pretty far. I think you should have mentioned that if you're planning a long trip you can/may charge it up to 100%.
It cracks me up how the people who have no clue or money hate on what's coming really fast and much sooner then they realize. EVs are the future, deal with it.
I've ordered the CyberTruck tri motor fsd & getting ready to order the S dual motor as well..I've made enough with TSLA to buy both..I love Space X, StarShip & all ELON does..
Bottom line: I think you need off-street parking to make this work but EVs make the most sense in inner-city living where most homes don't have off-street parking.
Yep, a planning & infrastucture failure. Even, suburban small towns are difficult with the advent of high density housing, often with limit parking spaces away from the house. There needs to be more lower density development, with off street parking and generous sized garages.
I have a new Model 3 being delivered end of March. Can't wait. Here in thd US, many owners simply plug into their 110 outlets aldeady in the garage. At miles per hour of charging, many say it's good enough.
TL:DR - Every house in the US is wired for 240V already. You just need to get an outlet for it in the garage and you can charge at 25mi/hr (240V) rather than 2mi/hr (120V). It's worth it. I tried to use the 120V in my garage for a few weeks and the 2mi/hr charge rate just was not keeping up with my daily driving. Plus it cost more because I had to charge for as many hours as possible to keep up with my driving (and my commute is only 3 miles/day!) so I was often charging during peak rates, which were 4x more expensive than the off-peak (12am-6am) rate. The 240V outlet will easily pay for itself over time, both in cost and convenience - just do it.
I live in the US and my local electric utility will install a charger for me if I agree to let them charge the car at off peak times. Worth checking with your utility company wherever you live.
It’s capable of doing more, you just wouldn’t want to use full capacity on a daily basis, and as Sal3600 said. Newer models have a better range and a heat pump which removes so issues around heater use and winter range. It was more to prove the point don’t think the range advertised is the range you’d actually be using
@@TeslaTorque electric is still to much of a compromise. I use my car for work and often cover 1000 miles a week and regularly 200 a day. The car in its self is amazing it’s just how the energy is stored, used and replaced that lets it down. Battery technology has moved at an incredible rate so it shouldn’t be long before the range has doubled and the charge time is halved, then I and many like me will be able to go electric.
A little misleading to suggest using battery outside the 20-80% is going to do damage. Occasional 100% charging and depletion to 0% (not recommended for obvious reasons) will do no real harm to battery
Totally agree. This really isn't an issue. After 5 years and nearly 100,000 miles in my model S, regularly (every week for two years) charging to 100% then blatting 200 miles, driving to achieve best journey time, arriving with single digit range, my battery still has over 95% of the original 265m range - not that I've ever driven the car in a way that would achieve it :D.
Left my 2021 model 3 overnight with sentry mode on at 50% and woke up (about 8 hrs) at 46%. Not bad imo, I contribute most of that to sentry mode. Haven’t noticed much of an issue with cold weather but I haven’t had it in sub 0 yet.
I’m picking up my Model 3 Long Range (Red with white interior) on the 1st of March and can’t wait for the drive home from Leeds to Chesterfield. I’ve spent the last fortnight ordering lots of accessories such as an outdoor cover, locking wheel nut’s, nut and hub covers, a touch screen protector, a spare wheel, jack and jacking point pads and a set of rubber mats for the drunk, trunk, lower trunk and the back of the rear seats. I’m not sure about mud flaps and if to go for the black or get colour matched red ones. Do you have an opinion on that one?
Phantom drain does not effect all BEVs. Our Kona has no phantom drain, our Tesla M3P does. I know your channel is Tesla orientated, but thought I'd mention it for completeness. Things I wish I knew before buying. They don't come with locking wheel nuts, none of the Tesla range does. Tesla does sell them, but not worth it as you can get a tool for £5 to remove them. Anyone need some locking wheel nuts, new unopened box? LOL
Hi John, I have to say I did not realise this, I've learnt something new. I'm looking to include other electric cars in the future, so this is important info, and important for those weighing up the pros and cons. Cheers for the input. I literally was thinking about locking nuts the other day and came to the conclusion it wasn't worth it for a similar reason - plus I just know I would lose the tool anyway
absolutely agree with you on things you wish you knew its way better than a gas i traded my 2019 F150 for a used tesla model 3 lrdm 1k miles so far on this and my total cost of everything is $6.50
The only thing that has any significant drain is the heater and driving style. Everything else is insignificant. The power it takes to heat the car is the equivalent of 150 radios all powered on at the same time, and a fully charged battery could power the heater on full non-stop for over 13 hours.
I like my model Y but the climate control is a little bit annoying to use. If you press the fan icon it turns on the fans. You only have control of the temperature in the main screen and not the fan speed. Its hard to press the screen and drive at the same time. Especially looking so far down. The heated seats function is on touch screen too. When your driving it’s a little hard to adjust the level of heat on the seats when watching the road. Also if u want to turn on the heated steering wheel you are forced to turn on the air before you can get into the heated steering wheel menu.
@@adrianfam8098 I went for a 2019 long range AWD and love it!!! I’ll never go back. Worst part now is you get absolutely bell ends who don’t own Tesla’s using the super charger network and taking up two bays.
@@m1kcan1 Fair enough, we're not "there" yet. Although for me the battery range/charging speed and longevity is already "good enough" in most cases, and improving all the time. The real innovation is reducing the cost of battery production, coupled with even cleaner, more sustainable battery chemistry.
Tesla owners lose 40% of their battery range in winter. Plus there’s all the other negative factors: lithium mining is one of the most destructive to the plant, batteries only last 12 years, they can at best be 30% recycled and go into landfills, much of US electricity still comes from coal or fracking, an EV car has a life of 12 years or half a quality Lexus or Acura, longer charge times, a Tesla battery weighs 1,200 lbs. needing a bigger battery to push, etc. Battery-electric cars won’t be the future, maybe hydrogen-electric.
@@m1kcan1 you aren’t even skating to where the puck is, but where it was. I understand what you are saying but it’s miss-informed. You are basing your arguments on outdated metrics. Come back here in 10 years and one of us will be right and one will be wrong. But keep an open mind x
I’m not opposed to ev’s, but they need to make more noise. The guy a block over had one and his time he left for work and my morning run were the same. We have tons of trees and bushes in our neighborhood and he hit me once and almost hit me about 5 times before that. If your walking down the street, you won’t hear it coming. I don’t wear headphones when I walk either.
sounds like bullshit, electric cars are more loud and make a distinct noise. For example our post cars are all electric. I completely ignore all other cars but I always hear from inside the house when post is comming
That's literally the best point you could ever make to any new EV owner "the range is not the range"!! When I get mine I fully intend to set my display to show me percentage rather than range, because I want to really enjoy the car, and from time to time that'll mean launching it from a standing start, and watching Netflix on my work breaks!! I doubt I'll ever get near the 360 miles from a long range model 3, and that doesn't bother me at all!
Yep, completely the same, I did start off with miles, but thought I would never have that on a fuel tank, so just changed it to % and never looked back :)
I picked up my 2021 model 3 SR+ in February. I live far from work and school and my commute is about 60 miles each way. I'm happy to report that I charge daily to 75% and wake up with between 205 and 210 every day. When I get home I usually have 75 miles left and even with additional errands have never went below 15%. I actually think I've got above the estimate on those times but I am in fact getting my full 200 miles of range. I'm in Arizona, USA, cold is not a factory. I drive fairly conservative and have it in chill mode. Most my driving is highway with autopilot on. When I park for work sentry mode is on and im parked for about 8-9 hours. By no means do I expect every one to have the same results but in my case results are accurate or better then expected.
Whats the top 5 things Tesla nailed and got right with the Model 3? Check out my thoughts here: th-cam.com/video/TAQalhOoQxs/w-d-xo.html
What's your view on the cabin noise with the model 3?
LOL EV=OUTDATED TECH BATTERIES=DATE BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST 2000 YEARS AGO BTW DONT PUT UR CAR ON THE GARAGE BATTERY MIGHT CATCH WHOLE HOUSE ON FIRE
1) Teslas and a lot of other EVs are cheaper to run but are too expensive to purchase for most people right now, especially if you’re outside the U.S (this is normal for new tech). However there will be a crossover point in the next few years where they’re as affordable if not cheaper than a traditional ICE car.
2) The range offered by most EVs at the moment is absolutely fine for city dwellers that don’t need to travel far on a regular basis. ICE cars still win hands down for longer distances at the moment.
3) There is some logic to arguments against how quiet EVs are and how that makes them dangerous to pedestrians. Yes, you can say pedestrians need to be more aware, but that will never be the case. Artificial noises should be used below certain speeds in busy or tight pedestrian/residential areas - loud enough for people to hear but not so loud it takes away the advantage of having quieter streets.
4) Right now Teslas are a status car in the UK, there is no disputing it. That will probably change.
5) Autonomous driving is a no-brainer for motorway style driving, but it will be slow to catch on and work well enough for any other roads, particularly in the UK.
6) More manufacturers should follow suit with Tesla with regards to the use of multiple in built vehicle cameras as it’s a no brainer from an insurance and investigation perspective.
7) There is some ignorance going on across all levels with regards to EV battery longevity. Manufacturers are going to need to start factoring that in to warranty for their vehicles as people will start to notice issues over the next few years.
8) Charging infrastructure in the UK is not great, but it will get better. It needs to otherwise there will be chaos at charging stations as not everyone has the luxury of off road parking.
9) Repair shops (garages for UK people!) will have to start adapting quickly to be able to fix/maintain EVs by training staff, otherwise they will become obsolete.
10) EVs are not complicated, in fact they’re simpler. There will be EV nay-sayers just like with anything new but they will adapt and forget about it eventually.
11) Excluding battery issues, maintenance is cheaper, tyres, brake pads etc (think about the sheer amount of engine oil that has to be disposed of every day at the moment). Theoretically with such low maintenance costs and parts EVs might ever only really need their battery packs changing so you could end up using and owning one for a VERY long time.
12) They don’t take as long to charge as some people think (and most people stop regularly when travelling) but they’re still slower at topping up compared to ICE vehicles which is only really an issue if you’re in a rush which you can never plan for.
13) Renewable energy must be adopted quicker so the electric used to charge EVs comes from sustainable sources (there is some logic to people who say they still get charged by electric from fossil fuel power plants)
14) No one really has any interest in top speed anymore for road cards (nor should they ever have!), it’s all about acceleration which EVs are generally better at.
15) Like any technology, it will get better.
On 13, it would be great, but it's not a requirement. Small scale ICEs are less efficient than real power plants, so even if that's the case, it's still a good thing.
@@steave435 Plus environmental controls are theoretically better and more practical on large power plants than on thousands of small vehicles.
Just got my Tesla 3 and couldn’t agree more, should never have hesitated, bloody love it
Debating getting one. Would be first ev so it’s a bit of a uneasy transition for me. How’s it been? How’s the reliability?
Good luck with the radiation 🥴
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I was the same. ICE all my life. Last car RS4. Went through the whole regretting ordering the Tesla. Very happy with it. Only regret is that I didn’t do it years ago!
@@18051980sz says someone who can't afford one im guessing since you likely used a phone to say it
@@wiggy2201 savage! ….. but I like it! 😩😂
I've had the Model 3 LR AWD for over two years, love it. Over that time I've learned for home charging, just set it to 90% and charge it every day. That will help the battery pack stay calibrated and thus maintain your battery range. Set the battery meter to the top daily driving notch, right before the trip section. It may not say 90% in the app at that top notch because of the battery being cold if its cold where the car sits. In the app and perhaps in the car the line will snap to that notch when you get close to it, just leave it there. I only change the charge level if I'm travelling and hopping from supercharger to supercharger. If I need to stay at a hotel, I go back to leaving it at the top daily notch. I rarely charge it to the tippy top, 100% or top of the trip section, but it is good once in a while to aid in that battery calibration. If you charge to 100%, use the departure time setting so you are using the car soon after hitting 100% to be less hard on the battery. Keeping the battery between 20-80% is a decent way to go, but I think it's totally fine to be in the 10-90% range too. I think it's actually just as hard or harder on the car battery being closer to the bottom of the charge, so I do tend to keep it above 15%. Remember that you can use that tippy top of the battery or get pretty close to the very bottom of the battery if you are travelling and not leaving the car in those states for long periods of time, like hours and hours or longer.
Very sound advice, cheers 👍
I’m looking forward to experimenting but will definitely try the supercharger at the Pick-up tomorrow to make sure it works ok.
From reading a lot about electric cars and owning a model 3 for about 4 months now, I can confirm that your advice is spot on
I rented a model 3 to see what the hype was about and I was absolutely blown away. I will for sure be buying one when I make my next new car purchase.
Always go with longer range. The value of the car is the range, and batteries decline over time. I bought an S in 2013: it has 86k miles and I have loved it. But the original 200 miles range is now maybe 160 in good conditions, less in winter. I am selling it, and it will be a great luxury car for someone who only drives locally. But I am thrilled to have my new AWD long range (350) 3! Expecting 10 more years of great, low cost transportation, and then good resale as I take advantage of the ever-improving technology.
What kind of region do you live in, if you don’t mind me asking? I live in Columbus, OH where there are charging stations pretty much everywhere. My commute to work is only 20miles. Winters are pretty brutal, but I have a garage. For these reasons, I’m not too concerned about the M3 performance battery
Love my Tesla model Y; the model 3's big brother. I live in California and have my Y plugged into to my solar roof panels. Sadly, my gas guzzling Mercedes 450 SL sits in the garage unused. I have to agree with you, my biggest regret is not switching to an EV earlier.
The most comprehensive study I have seen on moving from internal combustion to electrical power, if I buy another car it will certainly be an EV. Many thanks.
I wouldn't rule it out myself; but specifically for Tesla, I'd wait until they get better door handles and put the panels on straight. Too many bad-design and bad-build-quality horror stories.
You see a lot of them here in Phoenix, AZ, particularly in the upper-crust Eastern and Southeastern suburbs. It's partly a status-symbol thing.
The part I agree with is doing this sooner. I went for a BMW i3 in 2019. I remember the anxiety between order and delivery. If you can charge at home, and your average daily drive is within the range of the EV you want, then dive in. The cost of ownership alone is worth it. Yes, range is less in the cold months, but cut the cabin temperature down to 18 deg C and use the seat heater and air con (to avoid misting up) and its fine. The pre-heating is awesome in the winter, always makes me smile when I watch my neighbours scrape their ice cars, I just get in mine and drive off with a warm interior and clear glass, as I engaged pre-heating whilst eating my breakfast. Low running costs, next to no maintenance, no smelly emissions to feel guilty about, smooth quiet driving, instant torque when you need it. Wish I'd done it sooner!
In 2020 I decided not to buy a Tesla Model 3, since then I have been sitting on £45,000 which just sits in the bank waiting for me to decide what to do with it, sometimes I look out the window at my £500 Ford which has not broken down once in 3 years and wonder if I would feel better being £45K poorer, I smile when I think about my neighbours with their bank loans and overdrafts and hear them shouting and arguing about spending the money they dont have, as they trundle off to work, debt slaves every one of them, even makes me smirk a little. It takes all sorts.
Pre heating/cooling it's one of the most convenient thing to have!! One drawback of charging at home, at least to me, was the granny charger (8amps) that came with the car, needing almost 24hours to fully charge. I've bought a 16amps granny charger that let me charge at half the time
@@gtolose gotta agree with frugality, plus, tesla/elon do not share data with any mechanics, so noone but tesla dealers have the ability to fix these vehicles should they break down. If tesla can put out modern eco vehicles that last 30 or so plus years without astronomical maintenance, you will get a positive opinion from the naysayers.
@@gtolose good decision. Teslas are awesome but way overpriced and quality control is still an issue. Tesla is still figuring out how to be an automotive maker. In a few more years when they finish the new factories and streamline the process, prices will decrease and there will be better quality control.
Wow finally a truly informational video with a non cringe affect. Thank you for your time kind sir.
No problem Chief Pat....glad I could have been of service.
Hi Andrew, nice channel! Things I wish we knew before we bought our Tesla Model 3 Long Range FSD:
1.) Day 1 Reservation Holder would count for nothing - It was fully 3 months after other Tesla owners including two friends (all ordered just weeks before delivery) received their Model 3s. Tesla informed me by text that the delay was because 18" tyres couldn't be fitted to the 19" sport rims. I'm not kidding! Seriously. I posted a copy of the text message to the Tesla Owners Facebook group. It's OK. I forgave Tesla before I'd even driven 2 miles from Tesla Birmingham on the day we took delivery. The car was that good.
2.) We would end up buying a significant number of accessories including covers to go over the scratch prone piano black centre console, replacement front & rear footwell lights (originals extremely dim - none in the rear), rubber floor mats, trunk and frunk rubber mats, mudguards, display matte screen protector, replacement number plates (Tesla original plate holders rattle) etc.
3.) Range on our Long Range is only about 40 miles better than the Standard Range Plus. We have a usable range of around 200 miles especially this time of year. It's not a problem most of the time - until we visit North Wales. North Wales is a charge point 'desert' and we drive there regularly from Gloucestershire. Sorry Tesla, the Telford and Warrington superchargers are not in North Wales.
4.) Midnight Silver Metallic is really... grey.
5.) Autopilot can't be trusted 100%. It's sort of OK most of the time on Motorways and Dual Carriageways, but if 'Navigate On Autopilot' is selected, the car will frequently use the wrong lane when leaving at motorway junctions and then sometimes, not even bother to turn off. What's more the 'phantom braking' and completely unexpected swerving on Motorways can be absolutely heart stopping at times. Elon reckons Full Self Driving is almost here and Robotaxis will become a thing in a year or two. No Elon, it'll be another 20 years. Seriously. Program our car to deal with the Swindon Magic Roundabout. That'll be a reasonable test of 'Full Self Driving'. Then I'll have faith. It's fun listening to Elon's predictions and he has pulled off an awesome triumph in sheer inventiveness, design and manufacturing prowess that I'll let him off.
Totally agree with you Andrew, Octopus Agile tariff is absolutely brilliant. Talk about saving money on our previous suppliers Ecotricity, nPower and British Gas. We ought to have switched to Octopus years before we took delivery of our Model 3. If you've read this far(!) use Tesla Torque referral code for £50 off your first bill. You'll be helping Andrew / Tesla Torque too.
In summary, do we regret buying our Model 3? Not at all. This is a completely astonishing, delightful and easy car to drive. No clutch, no gears, no exhaust, no smelly diesel, no hassle and... no chance of driving it if my wife gets to it first! She particularly loves 'one pedal driving' that brings you to a complete standstill - without needing to use the brake pedal. And we have a 'full tank' plus toasty warm car (or cool in summer) scheduled every morning. Ah, oh yes. Netflix, TH-cam, Games, Spotify. So nearly forgot. Happy teenager too. What a car!
Good overview Bob. All fair and accurate comments. I do agree with you about the reservations holders, I think that was a very low blow. I ordered my Model 3, 13th May 2019, and I think I received mine before a lot of people that had reservations for years in September. I was watching the forums and the excuse was about stock, but in reality these should have been made and produced as a priority for good will of the customer, hopefully they will have learnt for the Model Y experience.
@@TeslaTorque thanks for your reply. I really have forgiven Tesla! I think it's quite extraordinary what Elon Musk and this company have achieved in just 17 years since Tesla was founded in 2003. Yes, there are teething troubles with the various cars they have been released to market and I definitely get the impression that Tesla are still learning some basics about building cars that Ford, GM, VW and all the other main marques have had 100 years to get right. I'll bet none of their cars were perfect from Day 1. And here's the basic truth... you only need to sit behind the steering wheel of a Tesla, any Tesla, to get why these cars are so exceptional. I'm not a Tesla fanboy, but can't help being delighted by the sheer quality of this groundbreaking product. I'm speaking as a former Porsche and BMW owner. None of those cars consistently wowed me the way our Tesla Model 3 does. Keep up the great work on your TH-cam channel Andrew. I've subscribed!
@@TeslaTorque I HAD to buy mine by the end of September 2019; pretty sure Tesla we’re trying to ramp up the sales volume for that quarter; got great purchase price and still qualified for £3,500 government grant which is no longer available for cars over £40k 😀
Mine came on 2nd September which made it a 69 plate, so I was very pleased it just ticked over - although was conscious as I was picking it up from Birmingham that the starting letter was going to be "B", then a random letter. Thankfully it wasn't a "J"
and I agree Bob, I don't think we would be anywhere near electrification if it was for Tesla
@@TeslaTorque we picked our Model 3 from Birmingham during September too. Our number plate ended up being BG69 FUN. No kidding!
We’ve had a 28kw Ioniq for 2 years. You can leave it unused for weeks and it still has the same percentage of charge despite periodically auto topping up the 12v battery.
The range is the range. Good practice does not require you to never go above 80 or never go below 20%. Good practice simply demands that you avoid spending significant time above 80 or below 20. If you're on a road trip, it's no problem at all to go up to 100 or down to 0 as long as you are driving and charging right away. The range is the range.
For daily driving, it is true that you should keep between 80 and 20. But this is plenty of range for daily driving.
I managed to get a Model 3 though my work running a salary sacrifice scheme. I have to admit that I too wish I had done it earlier. I absolutely love the car, from the drive experience right through to the nice little touches such as being able to watch Netflix if you have to wait in the car while charging or the kids are at training etc.
English Country Thing - I would highly recommend it
Its a great car :)
My wife just changed her petrol Smart ForTwo for the latest Smart Forfour EQ. Range is tiny but it's a city car that only gets used for local runs so no issue for us. (That 8.4 miles average journey is familiar!) It is a better car in every way that the Petrol version and costs less. It's really well equipped too. She is now getting fed up with me as I want to use it all the time! I will definitely get an EV to replace my BMW 540i when the time comes and it's good to see so many more EVs coming to the market
An average 8.4 mile journey is not good for a petrol engine. The car never really gets up to proper operating temperature and the wear on moving engine parts is very high. If you have an ICE car with that kind of average distance journey I would recommend that you take it for a good run up the motorway at 70MPH (or higher if you're brave) 100 miles or so.. You will be amazed at the difference in performance afterwards.
I served my BEV early adopter time in 2 Nissan Leafs over 8 years.
In September 20 I took the plunge with a new SR+ and it's been outstanding. That is all.
Haha, a true early adopter. If I had a second car, probably would have made the leap earlier, but range in earlier EVs was the problem for me. All good now though, glad you helped support the switch to EV from an early time.
Okay so here goes, after one week and around 700 miles in my 2021 Model 3 SR+:
- The real range has nothing to do with the one the car indicates if you drive on freeways or outside of cities in general. For instance, driving a mile on the freeway at 150-ish (around 90/95 mph) will result in the car's projected range dropping by 2 miles. It's approximatively a factor of 2, so keep that in mind if you do a lot of driving at higher speeds.
- Superchargers are awesome. They are very easy to use and reliable, which can't be said about the rest of the charging network. I have yet to try Ionity but most of the non-Tesla chargers seem a bit confusing and I don't understand why you can't just put your credit card in like at the pump. Instead, to operate the charging points, you need a stupid app or charging card.
- Use A Better Route Planner. It gives you a more realistic range estimate (you can input your real consumption) and offers more charging possibilities.
- You're gonna want a wall charger. Just using the mains, it takes about 15 hours at my home to charge the battery from 20% to 80%. If you're coming from a longer trip in the evening and have another one planned the next morning, that can be an issue. Wall chargers cost about 2,000€ to install and will reduce that to about 5-6 hours I believe. That's slow enough to preserve battery life but quick enough for convenience.
- My average consumption so far since owning the car has been of around 185 Wh/km (around 298 Wh/mi) doing mostly freeways. That means that the real range from 100% to 0% is around 270 km (168 mi).
Hope this helps
range and fuel consume is 100km/h on free ways a regular car use 4 a5 l/100km at 100kmh but 10/12 l/100km at 150 kmh, so wat is your point??
@@jozefa1234 just a heads-up, not a criticism. And it does seem to increase more with speed than in an ICE car. For instance, my previous 320d used around 4.5-5 L/100 km at 80 km/h and 6-6.5 L/100 km at 150 km/h. The Tesla is much more inefficient at high speed vs. low speed
@@TuddecBMW Just to be clear: Tesla (or any other EV) are *not* more inefficient at higher speed but ICE cars are extremely inefficient especially at lower speeds. 1 L of gas or diesel equals to about 10kWh. So your 320d consumed 45-50 kWh/100km at 80 and 60-65 kWh/100km at 150km/h. Even when you add charge losses (maybe 20 to 30%) to the numbers for an EV you will see my point.
My Bolt range dropped a noticeable number of miles when I drove a long distance on the freeway at 75, I think the efficiency went down. Still no problem getting from A to B though.
I drove a friend's model 3 on my Holiday in San Francisco in 2018. I loved the car.
However living in Australia, the distances are so vast & the infrastructure for electric cars is just not good enough. So for now, I drive a petrol car, that has an easy range of 900 miles. Not that I drive more than 900 miles in a day that often but I'd say I do that 2 to 4 times a year.
So driving that 900 miles you don't stop to stretch, eat or go to the bathroom.
I think you could charge the car during one of those breaks. I don't see the issue.
UNLESS - there are not enough Superchargers to load up the battery along your journey.
@Peter Hicks
The generator idea with the trailer is so simple to be genius.
@@markjeron4616 in Australia we use kilometers, but I convert it to miles. On one trip I drove 1,100 miles over night. I stopped for fuel & went to the toilet once. That took 10 minutes. But usually I drive during the day & would stop once for lunch for about 30 minutes, & my trips are more likely to be just 700 miles long. However Australia does not have a supercharging network & you would not want to go off a major route or your stuffed. If your going from Sydney to Melbourne, like I do a lot, you may get away with it, but I can't drive out of Sydney & Travel west towards the outback, because I would be charging for days in some camping ground that just has 240 volt. For this reason most people who own a Tesla in Australia own two cars in the family. The Tesla they use mostly & they may have a large SUV for long trips with the family. I'm single & only need one car & I drive long distances. However when I go away I'm usually with my none live in girlfriend & we could use her car, but that is small & uncomfortable.
Hi Sun Rise,
Thanks for writing back to me. I now see your side of the story. There are not enough super chargers. The car does not have a large enough range for your needs. I was coming from the perspective of living in California where there are ample chargers.
Cheers.
I bought an EV in October last year, yes a Leaf which many are critical towards. Myself, I'm loving it. I have driven cars in 40 years now and my evaluation so far is as follows:
Incentives like we have in Norway makes an EV a great alternative to petrol/diesel (No VAT, none or reduced toll-road taxes, reduced general yearly car tax)
The possibility to charge at home. Fresh 100% battery in the morning
Range on one charge is good enough for most people, though rapid charge is available almost everywhere and is heavily expanding
As the batteries get better and ranges increases the need for rapid charge will decrease
Compared to petrol/diesel, the car is quicker, need far less service and is hands down a better choice for everyday use.
Would I buy it if I didn't have the incentives? Probably not. Convenience and cost does matter.
Why Tesla wasn't an alternative for me? Because of cost vs applicability. If you past your 50s and 60s, believe me, you want to sit into a car, not down in the car.
If someone thinks a Leaf is boring, remember there is 214 brake horsepower there to just catapult you past the cars in front of you.... if you want.....
I drove a Leaf for 5 years or so. Great cars. I recommend it to anyone.
Placed my order for a 2021 SR+ this past weekend ETA 4-11 weeks but I'm hoping its closer to 4 weeks!!! Cant Wait!
They updated the site and now it says 3-11 weeks. I'm gonna order one in June 1
@@BigSpanish1821 really? On my Tesla website it's saying 3-13 weeks now
Ordered mine around the same time as you. Got the long range it saying that it’ll be ready by June 20- June 30
@@gurpaldhillon9665 I just checked the website and it gave me June 15-30th estimated delivery!!!
I have owned a model 3 also for about 18 months, this video is right on the money! Nice job!
I went from Macan Turbo to Model 3P September 2019 and have never looked back. Agree that range is substantially reduced in the cold. I generally set climate on about 30 minutes before departure to pre heat the batteries and think this helps a little. Performance is mind blowingly quick to the extent that you rarely have anything to prove. No concerns over servicing costs (unlike the Porsche!) and as you mainly use one pedal driving, can’t think brakes would need too much maintenance either. Whilst build quality is not to German standard, reports of Tesla issues in this respect are in my case, greatly exaggerated. I use the Octopus EV tariff and keep batteries topped up overnight at minimal cost. For me, this car is a no brainer and I can’t see myself ever going back to an ICE car.
Nice, my friend has a macan and purchased a M3 SR+ too and its great. I am looking at the LR with performance boost or P for future:)
@@mahid9594 I’m sure you won’t regret it 👍
I love the fact that people are making the switch and loving it. The sooner we can clean up the planet the better :). Even if that isn't your motivation, like you said they are awesome and green. Win win!
@@TeslaTorque Both things are amazing! You're absolutely right. Even if the intent is to purchase it because you genuinely love it, you are doing good at the same time :)
It's the best car i've ever bought.
I can't imagine ever buying something else than a Tesla.
Owned my LR Y about 5 months now and couldn't be more happy with it. I'm finding that the most common point holding back my friends from getting a EV is the long charge times vs filling up gas. I usually follow up with the question "Lets pretend that charging on a road trip is a HUGE inconvenience which I disagree with... How often do you usually go 250+miles road trips a month precovid?" Majority of these friends say they only go maybe 1 - 2 road trips a month meaning 90%+ of the time, the car is used for regular commuting and errands. In that case, majority of the charging will be done at home meaning it takes 10 seconds to to plug in vs 5-15 minutes of fill up time. Of course, there will be people that go on frequent road trips but those are more special case.
Yeah, but when they stop for lunch/bathroom break that's plenty of time to charge it for long distance trips.
Not if you live in an apartment building!
It may be worth mentioning that Sentry mode will turn off when battery drops below 20%. Phantom drain dramatically slows to around 2% per day after that.
You did your homework and it shows. Great video! As a young man looking to purchase a Tesla soon, this is great to watch
Yes, the supercharger network is great. Let's not forget there's a much more prolific network of chargers out there for all the other EVs and it's growing too! EVERY motoroway services in the UK has rapid electric charging (~20mins on a 2gen Leaf).
I'd recommend a 2nd hand NIssan Leaf to anyone on a budget, especially with children. If you're on a long trip you drive for an hour, stop, plug in, go for the required toilet break, play for 5mins, strap back in, un-plug, continue! We did that for years driving all around England: Durham, Cornwall, Lake District. It's loads of fun in the lakes: goes for miles, eats the steep hills for breakfast, regens on the way down and the slow down for every bend. Super efficient on country roads, in cities, leaving home with 80% charge every day. Blissful!
Bough a leaf 6 years ago, it was far and away the best car I have ever owned in terms of sheer driving pleasure, comfort etc... Advertised range was ~150 and this was fine for what I wanted it for. Never got more that 88 miles even on a 100% charge in eco mode and in ideal conditions. Had a few 'do I want to be warm, or do I want to get home' moments, and what made me get rid of it was an emergency trip to hospital. I could get there, but wasn't sure if I'd be able to get home. I feel that I was just too early into the market, but I am however, looking again at an EV as technology has moved on significantly now.
Was your Leaf new or used? You should be getting around that range in your city driving if new. It is odd that you get fewer miles on the highway especially at speeds of more than 62 mph (average highway speed limit in Japan).
@@lanceareadbhar The leaf was new, and was mainly driven on rural roads. We were pretty good at home charging and planning routes, but got rid of the car after an emergency visit to a hospital, we could get there, but only just made it home. It was just the sort of unplanned event that happens.
I have a Prius. The bit where you can drive it as an EV is so nice. I also feel quite smug in drive-thru lines because I usually don’t use any gas. I have found certain places where I will hypermile to avoid using gas for as long as possible.
Unfortunately it’s still very much a gasoline car. Gas stations, oil changes, no instant torque. But it has outlasted all my other cars in terms of mileage. Toyota did well. Hoping to keep going until I can afford a Tesla.
Great video! So glad I came across it after placing my order for the Tesla Model 3. Ships in 12 - 14 weeks! :) Excited!
good job making this video. We have two Tesla and we have done a lot of research before making decision. This is what I want to share. EV is great if
1 you drive/commute less than 80% range of the advertised range per day
2 a reliable stage 2 (240V 32A) charger at the place your live
3 time saving is more important than saving money
4 set the expectation when making road trips
5 least amount of maintenance (no oil change, smog check..etc)
Like you said, cold weather like the ski trip we had, drained 15miles per day to keep the battery warm. Other than that, both EVs met our expectation. We come home, plug it in, done in the morning.
If I keep it plugged in all the time, what length of charging lead will I need?
Love my Model 3 Performance....real world range with A/C maxed in the desert is about 175 miles doing 75-80 mph tho......if you drive a lot, plan on charging every day if not twice per day
I traded in a Mercedes CLA45 AMG for a dual motor model 3. The acceleration is actually better in my model 3, though the Tesla tires are much less sticky so cornering is not quite the same (CLA45 was going through tires every 15k miles without really pushing it - sticky tires just wear out much faster). The model 3 is really intuitive. The FSD package makes long trips SO much less effort (less need for focus) - and I like driving (having driven over 500k miles). And having charging at home, I only stop for fuel on long trips (no in town gas stops). I just love it. If I was doing it again, I would do a model Y instead to get more cargo space, but otherwise awesome.
I think I will wait until Tesla brings out the $25,000 electric car. I drive very little per day so not really worth it for me. I also have a car that is still good for some time to come.
Don’t think if it as an energy saver. Think of it as an astonishingly fast and quick 5 seat sports car. Or as a computer on wheels.
Very perceptive. I’ve owned an I-Pace for 3 months and this all makes sense.
Are ou the Ian Haines once at The University of North London then London Met? Is so greetings from Michael Crawford.
Great review from someone who researched their choice well and thought things through before and after their purchase.
Amusing reading comments from Tesla Haters ..... who just can not help watching Tesla Reviews (and making ignorant comments)!
Thank you.
Had the model 3 2020 then sold it to buy the Kia EV6, had it for 4 months and traded it in for the model 3 2021 model 😂 I missed the Tesla so much.
Was the Kia ev6 bad? Picking up my 2020 model 3 tommorow
Ordered our Tesla model 3 yesterday. Can’t wait!!
Snap!
I ordered mine a few days ago. Did you get your VIN?
I ordered mines 8 days ago. Estimated delivery July 24 to august 18 😭
@@sleasy01 same, still waiting for updates 😥
@@sleasy01 same! July 21st - August 20th
Thanks very helpful I have been thinking of buying a second hand Model 3 standard as prices have come down a lot. Will see how I feel in a few weeks.
The best thing I did for my model 3 was to buy 2 pairs of hydraulic struts which opens the drink and boot all the way, simple but amazing upgrade help and being around £20 and 5mins to fit was brilliant, hope this helps
I bought my first Tesla in 2016 and has never looked back! The total running cost for all my Tesla’s is more than 50 % less than a diesel/petrol car.
When I bought my Kona it was at the time the car with the second longest range after the Tesla. Also when I go on a long trip ( Toronto to Ottawa) I preheat the car and charge to a 100%.. no problem.
Opted for BMW330e PHEV in 2017. Love the car and my lease is now getting over. This time it will be a full EV not decide which one but this video was useful!!
Just ordered my Telsa 3, long range car in red today, 30 years a petrol head - now a sparky!!
Same here! I’m so excited😆
Just ordered a Model 3, partly because of this video. As an electrical engineer, I had a number of doubts about the actual vs advertized specs regarding charging, range, HVAC, etc. This video confirmed most of them and gave me an approximation of the real-world results, which are not as bad as I had imagined. Thanks. Well done!
This Yankee (veteran) ordered the two motor cybertruck. I'm open for suggestions from my UK friends. Maybe I should change to three motors. In America, we deal with longer distance. I'm retired now, but I used to commute 62 miles (99.78 km) one way. On a daily errand trip I can use up over 200 miles (321.87km). Yep, the USA, is a bigger country.
Interesting, yeah to us 62 miles is a fair distance.
At last - a realist look at electric car ownership - thanks for taking the time to inform us .
Congratulations on your beautiful car. I bought my M3P in September 2018. I’ve had the pleasure of over 2 years driving this out of this world car. Hard to say it’s a car. So much more than that. My husband just got his 2021 MYP. Life is good 😌.
Glad you are loving the Model 3 life :)
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People in Norway say that with the new heat pump the Tesla's are getting only about 15% range loss due to cold.
What is the range loss on a model s LR ?
It's also reducing the performance drastically making the battery too cold
@@foam27 expound
@@bob15479 Heat pump takes heat from the battery, to heat the cabin. This reduction in temperature reduces maximum available current from the battery.
I get about 15-20% range loss without the heat pump. They are by far the best EVs when it comes to the cold
Phantom drain is highly vehicle dependent. My i3S loses about 1-2% per week at the airport.
Yeah, it seems like it varies quite a bit between cars and even models
@@TeslaTorque I'll bet temperature plays a part. Someone should do a study.
I am two months into my Model 3 Long Range. The actual range point is a bit of an issue (I did a 36 mile round trip on Friday, which knocked off 80 miles) but I have a home charger. It is a lovely lovely car - and so so fast!
Did you leave it in sentry mode or anything whist parked? Cold weather does change the expected mileage, but wouldn’t expect it that much
I don't get the "not plug it in". Isn't one of the advantages of an electric car is to always start with a full tank? Plus making sure your Tesla is always running in the 80% - 20% sweet spot.
I would have liked to hear more about the plusses and minuses of the center screen. One Tesla anxiety we have is traveling at high speed in heavy traffic during a driving rainstorm and trying to adjust climate controls to defog the windshield without taking one's eyes off the road.
You can use voice commands to control the air conditioning.
Windscreen and rear screen defogging buttons are on the main screen (bottom row), so easy to tap without menu navigation. And like Joe says, voice commands help too.
The most informative video on EVs going around.
Tesla does not consider charging to 90% to be a problem, though many owners set the limit to 80% for local driving and raise it to 90% when going out of town. Likewise, there is no downside in taking the battery down to 15% or even 10% before charging. In fact, charging from those levels will give you a higher charging speed at a Tesla Supercharger.
It's nice to hear the other side of the coin. The people who sell EV's make it seem all rainbows and unicorns when in fact it isn't. Its nice to see electric cars making greater strides in range and function. One major thing they have to work on is making EV's affordable to everyone, even us ' po ' folks. My ice car cost 6 grand ( C ) or about 3,400 pounds, almost 13 years ago. As we don't drive a lot, it's still a fairly low mileage vehicle and will likely last a number of years more if I want it to. I'd really like an EV but I'm just not prepared to make a major financial investment in a type of vehicle that still needs to be improved. We'll see where things are in 5 more years, both me and my ice car plan to be around.
Which is perfectly okay because you don't drive that much.
By the way, you can easily get a Renault Zoe for around 6 grand right now.
I hear that many Tesla parts are DIFFICULT to attain (low stocks) causing long service/repair delays. Also build quality has been well below even just an average cheaper car eg. fit & finish of panels.
If and when they make electric cars that are better and cheaper than ice cars I'll be happy to switch over, but EV's are like plastic surgery or hair replacement operations. LET SOMEONE ELSE be the pioneer and buy the faulty products and experience all the heartache and glitches and then buy the product when it's been perfected. So far it's the rich guys who are blazing the trail and getting all the battery fires and so on, and that's fine, when they come up with a workable EV that sells for 20 grand, then I'm in.
Renault Zoe not available in Canada according to the internet, and even if it was, why would I pay 6 grand ( more like 10 grand minimum in Canadian dollars ) when it costs a pittance to operate, maintain and insure my existing ice car. 6 grand will keep my ice car on the road for years, in which time, EV's may advance to the point where they're cheaper and better than ice cars. Then there's Hyundai's announcement of its Vision 2040 plan investing heavily in hydrogen powered cars. It ain't over till it's over and I'm just not going to throw money around until technology evolves to a practical level. Let the rich guys be the trail blazers, I just can't afford to do that.
My range fell from 273-263 miles in just shy of a year and 10k miles driven in my 2023 M3 RWD. Range loss is slowing, but that’s not discussed much. The LFP battery allows me to top it to 100%, but I hate losing range. Fortunately, I can still take my longest vacation trip (177 miles) without needing to charge along the way, even though efficiency is notably shortened when I hang a bike off the trunk. Depending on ongoing range loss, someday I may need to charge along the way.
I now have 78,000 miles on my model 3. I have two regrets. 1. I wish I would have done it sooner. 2. I wish I would have gotten the long range version. But over all I'm very happy.
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When you bought the long range version, you would wished you owned the ludacris version.
Thats cool, do you know how your battery is doing? Have you lost much on full charge? Not many Model 3s with that distance on the odometer I imagine
I've lost about 20 miles range in 78,000 miles. Most of that came in about the first 6 months. When you really do your research Tesla tells you that you will lose about 10% and is normal.
I brought a Nissan Leaf six years ago and I run my battery from 100% to below 10% every day - my battery health is still very strong (> 90%). My tip is (wherever possible) to avoid charging your battery when it's hot - let it cool then charge it.
Thanks. I just bought a Leaf and am looking for all the tips I can get given the stories I hear online.
I also appreciate that you can set a timer with the Leaf when to have it charge over night.
I own a Model 3 Performance and go from loving the thing to wanting to sell it from week to week. I love the regenerative braking, I think it has the best infotainment system of any car ever, I love that I can sit in the car watching Netflix with the air-con on while my wife goes shopping and the low down grunt is savage. However, the build quality is the worst of any car I've ever owned, the driver engagement is not really there, the suspension is both harsh and jiggly on back roads and floaty a high speeds and I find the steering feel to be numb and the seats, for a performance ca,r are absolutely useless in holding one upright while attempting to steer this boat around a bend safely. Also, the whole charging thing, while in some ways is convenient because you don't have to go to a fuel station to fill up, the need to plug the charger in the minute you get home (something my wife constantly forgets to do after driving it into the ground) is actually quite irritating. Sure, my ICE car needs filling up but that really is only an inconvenience of about 5minutes every 2 weeks. Not as big a deal as the EV fanboys try to paint it out to be. And if I'm honest I think the Model 3 is one of the ugliest, stupid-looking cars on the road. Finally, I own a number of cars and I am a member of a few Facebook and Twitter Groups and I find the Tesla 'tribe' to be the most toxic, overly sensitive bunch of Karens of any of the car groups. Say one bad thing about your Tesla and the shitstorm of cyberhornets that rain on your parade is astonishing. One of my other cars is a Land Rover, a car that is renowned for breaking down and falling apart, but the owners in that group are some of the nicest and funniest people you'll never encounter. Surely they would have more reason to be a bunch of Karens than any other brand but no. They are genuinely nice. So, my Tesla ownership is....uhhhh...strained to say the least.
Def. Not an ugly car, c’mon!!!
I agree with you ! I think they are that way because deep down they don’t want to admit after spending thousands they really don’t like their Tesla after the poor quality etc sinks in and a lot of them are Climate warriors and also don’t want to admit that EVs are no where near as convenient or good as ICE cars …in a nutshell buyers remorse their green dogma won’t let them admit
"hooww deeehhr youuy!"
For sure ugly look cheap in and out way over priced
For me, in order to not spend $100/week on gasoline I have to wait for 30 mins to fill my tank at Costco to make it a little cheaper. Still $85 a week. The Tesla, which I don't seem to forget to plug in when I get home, hang out with family, eat dinner and sleep while it charges works for me. But sure, maybe not everyone, especially old school people who think charging a car in your garage is harder than stopping for gas
Lots of good advice here. The only point where I would differ is that I don't think constantly charging an already mostly full battery is not recommended either. Due to battery memory problems. I could be wrong but I thought the advice on most EVs was to do as you were originally doing running to around 20% to allow a fuller charge discharge cycle? I thought this was better for long term health and preventing degredation
My research has led me to a similar conclusion, Phil, regarding best charging practice. I charge my long-range Model Y to 70% (about 230 battery miles). Then I drive till I've discharged 20% (about 65 miles for my model Tesla). When I see that I have about 165 miles left in my battery, I plug in and charge back up to 230 miles (70%). I don't plug in every day.
My model 3 manual says "About the Battery
Model 3 has one of the most sophisticated battery systems in the world. The most important way to preserve the Battery is to LEAVE YOUR VEHICLE PLUGGED IN when you are not using it. This is particularly important if you are not planning to drive Model 3 for several weeks. When plugged in, Model 3 wakes up when needed to automatically maintain a charge level that maximizes the lifetime of the Battery."
Yep, Hi Phil and Gill, Kelvin is right. That extract is directly out the manual. It may be different for other electric cars, but the Model 3 should be at around 80% as often as possible. There have been some studies that show between 60 and 80% is optimal, but there is no harm keeping it between these numbers, and is actually advised. You want to avoid lower states of charge and for current Models on the market at least, not really leave it much above 80%, with a max of 90%. (100% is fine for a short amount of time before a long journey, but unless you need 100%, don't charge to it).
Great advice - ordering my long range this week !!
Have you got a referral link? If you want to use mine we both get Tesla charging miles.
Exciting times :)
Did you get it
@@timstopar8694 waiting on a response as well! I’m saving up now for mine. 800$ down, 8200$ to go. Hopefully I can achieve this in 8 months.
Wait until EV batteries die. Only less than 5% is being recycled. They’re going to be like plastic. Anything you get from earth requires lots of energy from fossil or coal
I absolutely adore my Tesla! I had an old Model S (same price as a new Model 3), have given up waiting the Y to be available in the UK, so have just gone for the Model 3 2021 refresh AWD long range. I am smitten. The BIGGEST thing I wish I’d known is - once you have a TESLA, don’t expect ever to be able to go back to a petrol or diesel car! I don’t currently feel the same about other EVs, mostly because of the total lack of charging infrastructure in the UK. Whereas the new V3 Tesla super chargers are so fast now, you barely have time for a coffee and a loo break before your Tesla is ready to take you on our way. Personally I think they are pretty cars, and I love the increasing minimalism which also means that your Tesla can continue being improved with software updates.
I bought my first car three months ago. A 2016 Toyota Prius with 59,000 miles for 16k after fees. It’s a lovely car but it makes me crave owning a real EV when I can eventually afford one (and when I own a house that I could charge it)
How would the cooling draw less power than the heater? I'd say such a phenomenon would have a lot to do with the local climate.
Heating uses far more power simply because you need to energize a electrically thirsty resistance heating element ... A/C on the other hand uses a compressor to cool the cabin.
@@markshag5149 That's inaccurate. Electric heaters are basically 100% efficient. Thermodynamics and all that jazz, have a read.
Biggest concern is, for me, battery degradation and effect on selling ? Need to know how much battery revitalisation/ replacement will be as well as battery life span and erosion of range over time.
rob,
how old is the car you drive now, you never buy them new?
Early data is suggesting battery degradation is nothing too much to worry about and will outlast the car. Yes you will get some, but shouldn't need a complete replacement
But, if you do, it'll cost you $24,000. Who's going to buy an 8 year old car with that hanging over his head?
@@TeslaTorque "8 years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period."
That is something I would worry about considering that I have a 13 year old truck with 230,000 miles and a 12 year old car with 120,000 miles on them and no degradation in fuel capacity.
@@justindavis1546 Degradation in mpg though? I drove a 1995 Jeep from 2001-2014 and my mpg went from about 18 to less than 14.
Great review! I bought Toyota Prius PHEV, because of my long commute and lack of access to charging station. Even I have only 40-50km on full charge I love driving it in EV and still more then 80% of my driving is pure EV. When it switches to hybrid mode it is still supper efficient but the driving experience is like going back to Stone Age. Definitely my next car will BEV hopefully Tesla :-)
Thank you so much for this vid! I'm looking to get a Model 3 soon, and this vid helped a lot!
Range? how often do you run your ICE to empty. Once I'll bet!!
I really enjoyed your video and the fact you were definitely telling truth. It’s my next car if not the M2. Thank you, Hussein
Cheers Hussein, appreciate the comment. I’m trying to be truthful on the channel, even if that does mean saying bad things about Tesla from time to time. They are awesome cars and great company, but even Elon admits they don’t get everything right 👍🏻
Great video. You mentioned shortcomings I had not heard of such as battery life & battery charge depletion during winter months or the lack of good heat.
I live in the US and have had my Model 3 Standard Plus for 4 months. I agree with all of your comments in this video. The one thing I would add is that getting a bug out of the car is daunting. My car required three trips to service before fixing a problem with the driver's window. Tesla provided me a loaner, which was great. They also picked up and delivered my car which is 60 miles from the dealership. I still totally love the car in spite of these frustrations, and wouldn't take my money back to get something else if they offered it. Tesla service is great, and their people are fantastic. It is cold near Chicago, so your comments about range in the winter are apposite. Fortunately I have a heated garage, but the range drops about five miles upon leaving home.
I'm jealous of the heated garage, and when you said bug, I initially thought you meant a fly. As I was going to totally agree with you, if a fly gets down the front dash, its quite a stretch 😂. But then realised you meant a fault kind of bug. Annoying it took 3 attempts, but at least they got there in the end
Just ordered this Y. This is helpful. Thanks for sharing!
Congrats Lisa, I'm looking forward to when we can order them in the UK, another Tesla shape to look out for on the roads :).
I would like to own an ev but what is putting me off is I don't have a drive way or a garage only off street parking and I rarely get parked outside my home and it's about 20 miles from a EV charging station
Tbh you are never away more than 2 miles from a charger if you live in London, just download zap map app you can see all the chargers, also in the next 2-3 years 70-80 percent of the lamp post will have a socket for you to plug in your car specially the lamp posts outside flats, i have seen quite a lot they have a blue dot light in the lamp post, I’m a cab driver and my Tesla has never run out of charge just plan ahead.
That is genuinely useful consumer information and has given me the confidence to admit that as much as I would like an EV, there are simply too many drawbacks for my personal use case right now.
I do not care that my petrol or diesel car does less MPG than claimed because petrol stations are plentiful and in 5 minutes I can go from zero range to 600 miles.
The good news is that battery and charging tech is advancing at an astonishing rate so hopefully this combined with some more realistic pricing will bring EV motoring to the masses but right now anyone (with the possible exception of company car drivers) who claims that they are saving money with an EV is probably kidding themselves if they take everything into account, especially with the average journey length that you mention. Surely the best advice for most people right now would be to buy a plug-in hybrid which gives all of the benefits with far fewer drawbacks.
I get that for many EV owners, it is not about money but doing their bit for the environment but the reality for many is that they are not able to switch to a more expensive and less flexible mode of transport.
Hopefully the government will start to provide a little more carrot and a lot less stick and really help to bring EV ownership to the masses.
A couple of final thoughts, why are Tesla still trying to sell us saloon cars when most want hatchbacks and why the return to RWD in EV’s, great for the driving gods but not so clever on an icy B road.
Tesla was dumb with the 3 being a sedan (saloon). They should have made it a "hatch sedan", as I call the Model S. For many potential buyers, the lack of utility of the 3 being a sedan causes many to reconsider. And, many of us don't want an SUV. Here in the USA, station wagons (estate cars) are NOT popular, but hatches of all descriptions are growing in popularity.
RWD versus FWD: I think it was smart for Tesla to go with RWD for the lower cost models. The battery pack under the floor is the largest part of the weight of the car. It seems that most Teslas are around a 50/50% front to rear weight distribution. If a Tesla were FWD, it would not give you the traction advantage on snow that you get with an ICE car. At best, your front to rear weight distribution would be 55% front, 45% rear. You really need to be at 60-65% front to be noticeably more advantageous in snow. Also, under hard acceleration, FWD is less than ideal for your steering, due to the rearward weight transfer.
@@snowrocket Fair point re RWD for Tesla, given the amount of torque on offer, keeping the front wheels under control could be a real issue. Just wonder if the same really applies to less powerful EV’s like the Honda E and ID.3 for example. I quite like a “hot hatch” experience and I would argue that in most hands, FWD is probably the safer option.
@@stephencollins7714 FWD IS probably safer, but with all of the required skid/spin control Nanny State stuff on the newer cars, I'm not sure it matters as much. My 2007 Subaru only has ABS, so I can slide it around a lot, especially in the snow, which is great fun! I'm sure a newer Golf GTi or Mazda Miata has stability and traction control that SORT OF limits the stupidity of regular drivers. No matter the car though, if you you do dumb/inept stuff, you can crash it or get it stuck.
That really is true @@snowrocket! This is why there is Y now.
Power control and stability is incredible on the 3s@@stephencollins7714. Just try it.
I recently got a plug-in hybrid (Honda Clarity) and I LOVE it... for the first 40 miles or so I get on electric! But now I'm wishing I had fully committed and went for a Model 3 instead! So I understand that last point fully!
And I think Tesla is, for now and the foreseeable future at least (which, with how quickly things are evolving isn't too far ahead), the only company I would consider buying a BEV from, just due to the super charging network. That really relieves a lot of range anxiety for those occasional longer trips, which aside from cost is the main reason I went with a PHEV over a BEV. Most if not all of the non-Tesla chargers in my area are level 2 only, which would be a nightmare for a long haul trip. Plus, having a super charger nearby means I don't need to install charging station at home. I could just use level 1 charging overnight for my daily driving, and super charging for the long trips. Wish I had just made the BEV plunge, but oh well, I'll drive my PHEV for a for years and then trade in for a BEV next for sure!
I understand the hybrid dilemma. I almost did the same, really glad I didn’t, as there is really no need. The range anxiety is not a thing I’m relived to say. If anyone discusses hybrid with me now, I just say forget it and go all in. there’s plenty of choice now for all peoples needs and life style
2 months ago I bought a second hand model s. Even tough the car is 8 years old an has about 100.000 miles, I agree with you: I wish I switched earlier to an EV!
Great overview. Like you I wish I would've made the jump sooner to EVs.
I’m looking at getting a model 3. I have had my car for over 10 years and it’s dying on me. I have a diesel and my job changed and I only have to travel 1.5 miles a day to work and 1.5 miles back. I think this short distance travel has helped block my car up.
Are shorter journeys good for EVs? I would actually walk to work but the kids stop me from walking 😅
😂 o yes that is not enough. Get the Premium Diesel von shell and the diesel Partikelfilter additive
"MATHY-DPF Partikelfilter Reiniger Diesel "
Now drive to a nice Destination that will empty your Tank in one go.
Don't drive to fast but shift agil down so your car is between three thousand and 4000 revolutions all the time. (Drive the last 10 min normal with low Revolution for cooldown!) Your Diesel should run good again. Now sell. Your daily distance is to low.
Yes Elektrik is your better choice. But conside4 if you need a car.
I would use a ebike for that here in germany. Or i have a elektrik Vespa. Its econelo classic very cheap and fun. And the girls love it when i get them with the Vespa. More than the benz when its hot
Get a good diesel additive and take it out on the freeway and run it at 4000 rpm while hot, should be good as new 😉
Are you serious? 😂😂 Go walk or bike to work.
2:35 PHANTOM DRAIN is actually a reason to choose an EV over an Internal Combustion Engine car.
ICE inefficiencies are way worse than EV PHANTOM DRAIN. You can't even call them Phantom since they are so pronounced and obvious.
***Ice Drain happens when you warm up an ICE car. You get zero mpg when you warm up a cold ICE. You don't really have to warm up a Tesla to drive it. If you want to prewarm the inside, you can if you want.
***Ice Drain happens when you're braking. Your ICE is still sucking up fuel as you roll to a stop, whereas Tesla is putting energy back into the battery using its regen feature.
***Ice Drain happens whenever you're idling, at a stop sign, stoplight, or stopped in traffic (unless you have an annoying ICE Start/Stop system, of course).
And by the way, your ICE car's lead battery also drains when you park it at the airport.
You'll have to load the engine to charge that on the way home.
So yeah, you may have lower phantom losses, but count on your ICE to waste any savings and then some, every time you drive.
I love my Stop/Start system! but I'd love an EV more.
@@jocramkrispy305 Most people would.
By the way, that survey the media keeps quoting that says, "20% of EV owners go back to gas cars," INCLUDES HYBRID OWNERS!!!
That's so misleading. When you mix in hybrid owners with pure EVs, of course you're going to get some people that want to dump them.
Hybrids are just wimpy-batteried EVs. They are still subject to the gas car headaches of buying gas, oil changes, etc.
In 2021, why buy a car with two propulsion technologies to monitor?
Admittedly, for years a hybrid was the most efficient platform on the market. But not anymore.
@@fenderstratguy I guess I'm one of them... I had a Prius as a company car, then changed jobs and had to buy my own, so I got a used low emission (allegedly) diesel
Nice summing up, thanks. Only for my situation (lease) I'm not gonna leave it at home charging all the time. I have a card for charging and that's not for my own cost, if I do that at home it will be. But I have charging options in public at home and at work and also I have the luxury to have a Supercharge point really close as well a Shell Recharge. So I'm not gonna worry too much about that.
Also if I'm planning to do a long trip I'm gonna charge it up to 100% just before. With a Long Range AWD I will get pretty far. I think you should have mentioned that if you're planning a long trip you can/may charge it up to 100%.
When you charge your car unwind the cable from the charger otherwise this will get hot. and maybe cause problems
It cracks me up how the people who have no clue or money hate on what's coming really fast and much sooner then they realize. EVs are the future, deal with it.
I've ordered the CyberTruck tri motor fsd & getting ready to order the S dual motor as well..I've made enough with TSLA to buy both..I love Space X, StarShip & all ELON does..
Haha, good work. TSLA has done particularly well. Glad you backed the company from such an early start and that it came through. Congrats :)
Bottom line: I think you need off-street parking to make this work but EVs make the most sense in inner-city living where most homes don't have off-street parking.
Yep, a planning & infrastucture failure. Even, suburban small towns are difficult with the advent of high density housing, often with limit parking spaces away from the house. There needs to be more lower density development, with off street parking and generous sized garages.
I have a new Model 3 being delivered end of March. Can't wait. Here in thd US, many owners simply plug into their 110 outlets aldeady in the garage. At miles per hour of charging, many say it's good enough.
TL:DR - Every house in the US is wired for 240V already. You just need to get an outlet for it in the garage and you can charge at 25mi/hr (240V) rather than 2mi/hr (120V). It's worth it.
I tried to use the 120V in my garage for a few weeks and the 2mi/hr charge rate just was not keeping up with my daily driving. Plus it cost more because I had to charge for as many hours as possible to keep up with my driving (and my commute is only 3 miles/day!) so I was often charging during peak rates, which were 4x more expensive than the off-peak (12am-6am) rate. The 240V outlet will easily pay for itself over time, both in cost and convenience - just do it.
@@sooocheesy (and my commute is only 3 miles/day!) And you need a vehicle?????😂 Correct on the 240.
I live in the US and my local electric utility will install a charger for me if I agree to let them charge the car at off peak times. Worth checking with your utility company wherever you live.
166 miles!!! 83 miles each way with out the heater on. What happens if your carrying passengers or towing?
This issue is fixed in the new models.
It’s capable of doing more, you just wouldn’t want to use full capacity on a daily basis, and as Sal3600 said. Newer models have a better range and a heat pump which removes so issues around heater use and winter range. It was more to prove the point don’t think the range advertised is the range you’d actually be using
@@TeslaTorque electric is still to much of a compromise. I use my car for work and often cover 1000 miles a week and regularly 200 a day. The car in its self is amazing it’s just how the energy is stored, used and replaced that lets it down. Battery technology has moved at an incredible rate so it shouldn’t be long before the range has doubled and the charge time is halved, then I and many like me will be able to go electric.
I believe the Model 3 now has the heat pump for heating as well.
A little misleading to suggest using battery outside the 20-80% is going to do damage. Occasional 100% charging and depletion to 0% (not recommended for obvious reasons) will do no real harm to battery
Totally agree. This really isn't an issue. After 5 years and nearly 100,000 miles in my model S, regularly (every week for two years) charging to 100% then blatting 200 miles, driving to achieve best journey time, arriving with single digit range, my battery still has over 95% of the original 265m range - not that I've ever driven the car in a way that would achieve it :D.
Well I’m about to take the plunge, I also wish I had done it sooner.
Snap… his comment of wish i’d done it sooner is words i needed to hear :)
Left my 2021 model 3 overnight with sentry mode on at 50% and woke up (about 8 hrs) at 46%. Not bad imo, I contribute most of that to sentry mode. Haven’t noticed much of an issue with cold weather but I haven’t had it in sub 0 yet.
I’m picking up my Model 3 Long Range (Red with white interior) on the 1st of March and can’t wait for the drive home from Leeds to Chesterfield. I’ve spent the last fortnight ordering lots of accessories such as an outdoor cover, locking wheel nut’s, nut and hub covers, a touch screen protector, a spare wheel, jack and jacking point pads and a set of rubber mats for the drunk, trunk, lower trunk and the back of the rear seats. I’m not sure about mud flaps and if to go for the black or get colour matched red ones. Do you have an opinion on that one?
Sounds like you’re well prepared. Where did you get the spare wheel from? I’m considering getting one also.
I’m not sure about mud flaps and if to go for the black or get colour matched red ones. Do you have an opinion on that one?
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Phantom drain does not effect all BEVs. Our Kona has no phantom drain, our Tesla M3P does. I know your channel is Tesla orientated, but thought I'd mention it for completeness.
Things I wish I knew before buying. They don't come with locking wheel nuts, none of the Tesla range does. Tesla does sell them, but not worth it as you can get a tool for £5 to remove them. Anyone need some locking wheel nuts, new unopened box? LOL
Hi John, I have to say I did not realise this, I've learnt something new. I'm looking to include other electric cars in the future, so this is important info, and important for those weighing up the pros and cons. Cheers for the input.
I literally was thinking about locking nuts the other day and came to the conclusion it wasn't worth it for a similar reason - plus I just know I would lose the tool anyway
absolutely agree with you on things you wish you knew
its way better than a gas
i traded my 2019 F150 for a used tesla model 3 lrdm
1k miles so far on this and my total cost of everything is $6.50
Thinking of doing the same thing 2018 f150 FX4. Big change… any regrets ??
@@steviej2911 only regret was not doing it sooner
I had a platinum got rid of it for model 3
Can you have the radio on or does that cause more drain ?
The only thing that has any significant drain is the heater and driving style. Everything else is insignificant. The power it takes to heat the car is the equivalent of 150 radios all powered on at the same time, and a fully charged battery could power the heater on full non-stop for over 13 hours.
I like my model Y but the climate control is a little bit annoying to use. If you press the fan icon it turns on the fans. You only have control of the temperature in the main screen and not the fan speed. Its hard to press the screen and drive at the same time. Especially looking so far down. The heated seats function is on touch screen too. When your driving it’s a little hard to adjust the level of heat on the seats when watching the road. Also if u want to turn on the heated steering wheel you are forced to turn on the air before you can get into the heated steering wheel menu.
I was thinking about leasing a model 3 but wayyy too many things relying on the touch screen even the damn glovebox
Great video. I’ve literally just ordered a second hand Model 3 AWD Long Range. Can’t wait.
Which model did you go for? Im thinking of doing the same! Like year model
@@adrianfam8098 I went for a 2019 long range AWD and love it!!! I’ll never go back. Worst part now is you get absolutely bell ends who don’t own Tesla’s using the super charger network and taking up two bays.
I’d try for a 2020/2021 with the gen 2 tech that’s a bit more efficient
Hi,I am looking for used tesla model 3 ,could you please enlighten about which website is best and what I need to look mainly before buying
2021 model have heat pump
EV Driver here, def agree with the sentiments. EVs aren’t perfect perfect, nothing is. But once you’ve driven one, there’s no going back.
I’ll pass until battery technology improves
@@m1kcan1 Fair enough, we're not "there" yet. Although for me the battery range/charging speed and longevity is already "good enough" in most cases, and improving all the time. The real innovation is reducing the cost of battery production, coupled with even cleaner, more sustainable battery chemistry.
Tesla owners lose 40% of their battery range in winter. Plus there’s all the other negative factors: lithium mining is one of the most destructive to the plant, batteries only last 12 years, they can at best be 30% recycled and go into landfills, much of US electricity still comes from coal or fracking, an EV car has a life of 12 years or half a quality Lexus or Acura, longer charge times, a Tesla battery weighs 1,200 lbs. needing a bigger battery to push, etc. Battery-electric cars won’t be the future, maybe hydrogen-electric.
@@m1kcan1 you aren’t even skating to where the puck is, but where it was. I understand what you are saying but it’s miss-informed. You are basing your arguments on outdated metrics. Come back here in 10 years and one of us will be right and one will be wrong. But keep an open mind x
@@m1kcan1 Electric cars are young tech compared to ICE and already showing great results. Imagine where they will be in 10 years!
I’m not opposed to ev’s, but they need to make more noise. The guy a block over had one and his time he left for work and my morning run were the same. We have tons of trees and bushes in our neighborhood and he hit me once and almost hit me about 5 times before that. If your walking down the street, you won’t hear it coming. I don’t wear headphones when I walk either.
sounds like bullshit, electric cars are more loud and make a distinct noise. For example our post cars are all electric. I completely ignore all other cars but I always hear from inside the house when post is comming
In some countries there is a law that says that an ev should make noise below a certain speed. In newer model 3’s that feature is already included
@@adg16610 good to know! My neighbor had a burgundy reddish Tesla. Don’t know the make or model but recognize the logo on the “hood”
You can hear the tiers on the road, they are not completely noiseless...
@@SandraWantsCoke more loud then what? They are in fact quiet but not completely noiseless
That's literally the best point you could ever make to any new EV owner "the range is not the range"!! When I get mine I fully intend to set my display to show me percentage rather than range, because I want to really enjoy the car, and from time to time that'll mean launching it from a standing start, and watching Netflix on my work breaks!! I doubt I'll ever get near the 360 miles from a long range model 3, and that doesn't bother me at all!
That's what I do, set to % and ignore the miles. That and leaving it plugged in all the time is highly recommended.
Yep, completely the same, I did start off with miles, but thought I would never have that on a fuel tank, so just changed it to % and never looked back :)
I picked up my 2021 model 3 SR+ in February. I live far from work and school and my commute is about 60 miles each way. I'm happy to report that I charge daily to 75% and wake up with between 205 and 210 every day. When I get home I usually have 75 miles left and even with additional errands have never went below 15%. I actually think I've got above the estimate on those times but I am in fact getting my full 200 miles of range.
I'm in Arizona, USA, cold is not a factory. I drive fairly conservative and have it in chill mode. Most my driving is highway with autopilot on. When I park for work sentry mode is on and im parked for about 8-9 hours.
By no means do I expect every one to have the same results but in my case results are accurate or better then expected.