I had a test drive today, and can’t believe we discussed the exact same points you mentioned in the points you don’t like about this car. I just came here to see if there is any difference 3 years later in the design.
Thanks for your review... you ask some good questions! Here's how I looked at it, prior to purchasing my 2022 Model Y Performance.... I purchased it for around $65k, plus tax. Searching the web right now for used 2021 Model Y's, just as a sample, CarGuru has a 2020 Model Y long range, with over 12,000 miles, and they're asking $65,700... a 2021 Model YLR with 3,772 miles, they're asking $68,000... a 2020 Model Y Performance, with 13,125, they're asking $61,950. My point is, if you purchase a Tesla Model Y, keep it for a few years, you're probably going to get back a large portion of your money. Wait times for a new Model Y, LR is October 2022, or, if you upgrade, maybe June 2022. Most people do NOT want to wait that long, so they'll get a clean, used Model Y, pay nearly the same price as a new vehicle, but they'll have it today! Safety is also a major factor for me, and Tesla's have had the highest safety rating from the NHTSA of any car.... Overall Rating 5 Star, Frontal Crash 5 Star, Side Crash 5 Star, Rollover 5 Star! Not only did the Model 3 have all 5 Stars, but Tesla IMPROVED the Model Y which is based on the Model 3, and made it even safer than the Model 3. Alot of factors go into choosing a vehicle, not the least is where you live and the climate! I'm in sunny California, so I don't have to deal with lost range due to freezing weather. I typically don't drive over 50 miles a day, so if I get 300 miles on a full charge, or only 250 miles, or even 220 miles... 90% of the time, I simply don't care! It'll easily give me my 50 miles a day! I charge every night, and have a full (well, 90%) battery in the morning. Thanks again for an informative review! The good news is... if you really HATE your Model Y, you won't have much trouble selling it!
Thanks for your comment, this is a great perspective. Its almost unheard of to have a "car" appreciate in value over time, Dave ramsey would eat his own words right now . I think if I lived in a warmer climate the range issues for sure would not matter to me, but for now I suffer up north lol. I agree with you for quick trips around town and non long distance travel the range is perfectly fine. I wish tesla offered lease buyouts XD Thanks for your comment!
That’s assuming there’s still going to be a shortage in a few years, you never know if that’s going to disappear. Teslas might be made faster etc.. considering they have Texas just opened. Prices might stabilize
I agree with your likes and dislikes except I've found that unlike previous vehicles, I actually have learned to use voice commands for so much more in this car so that makes some of the awkward features still easily manipulated
I have a model 3 and just ordered a Model Y. Things I dislike are: the seatbelt cannot be adjusted well enough for short people and goes up against my neck. The steering wheel is too thick for me. Doesn't have a heads up which you would expect with this technology. Should have blind spot indicators in the side mirrors. Things I really like are: feels great to drive, so much power. Non cluttered interior (I hate all the buttons in other cars and have never figured out what they all do). Great voice commands which is really my go-to for making changes. Easy charging at Tesla and non-Tesla chargers. Holds the road well. So easy to use basic functions like cruise control. The most fun car I have ever owned, hence why we have bought another!
I recently was on vacation, driving my Tesla model Y a total of 1200 mi. I spent $110 total at Tesla Superchargers. I have solar panels for charging at home. I would have used about 50 gal of gasoline at $5 per gallon for $250 with my previous ICE compact sport utility. The Tesla superchargers were ubiquitous and convenient. Also at least 8 chargers at the locations and open 24/7. Stops were about 20-30 min which was no big deal since pit stops at restrooms, snacks, coffee, etc. are usual in any vehicle. I'll see in the longer term about lower needs and costs for maintenance?
Im glad to hear your road trip worked out, my family and I are doing our first road trip of the summer in a few weeks and i'm terrified hopefully we don't get stuck needing a charge.
It always nice to hear what others opinions are, it seems many things you don't like about the model Y were done to bring down costs, overall maintenances, and increase the efficiency at factory level due to a lot less parts. If the vehicle were to have a more fancy interior, better interior lighting, bigger rear mirror (which isn't even not necessary), adjustable moon roof, moon roof cover, an extra screen for your speedometer, you'd be paying a MUCH higher price. The vehicle is price more on the performance and safety components.
Great video. I like how you spoke about the good and bad about owning a Tesla. Most videos don't even mention this kind of stuff. I'm curious, does Tesla's come with a spare tire or use run flats?
You probably have the answer already but you have to call Tesla service to come give you the tiers when they are potentially flat, so that is kinda crap but not that big of a problem
Turn it to % the mileage depends solely on how you’re driving-speed and regen dependent. I drove my model 3 350miles on chill mode and backroads, had 30% battery left from a full charge when we left.
driving pleasure is the only factor that somehow justifies the purchase of the Tesla at 65K. if you mute it - a 25K CRV or CX-5 offers a better value-proposition in comparison. you upfront save almost 40+ grand and also get a car with more bells and whistles. the MY has quality issues, no luxury, no premium feel, horrible cabin noise, poor ride quality - but why is someone still ready to pay a hefty price? because of it's driving dynamics, not to buy and drive in chill mode. its like buying a 100K Porsche Macan and driving it in eco mode all the time to save money on gas.
You should probably contact Tesla and let them know, because they specfically list on their website that "Chill does not directly improve driving range, but using the increased torque and power available in Insane or Ludicrous mode can reduce range and efficiency"...but you were able to get over 400 miles of range just by using Chill mode even though Chill mode is simply a limiting acceleration function for those who have lower self control and do launches and crazy acceleration. Hmmm...very interesting.
@@reb1225 chill mode DEFINATELY makes a difference I’ve heard many owners say the same thing. idk what they are smoking limiting the acceleration limits the energy the battery has to put out..
@@Seacai150 I would agree that chill mode allows you to use more of the available range by limiting your acceleration function, but it doesn't provide "more" range. The range is the range. But some how you got over 400 miles on a M3 just by using chill mode. How many owners on here were able to do that on a M3?
I know this is a Model Y review, but your point about the vehicle being too hot in the summer applies to the Model 3 as well. I test drove a Model 3 today in 110 degree weather. The AC is inadequate. The airflow wasn’t cold and the cabin stayed relatively warm. My car’s AC blows ice cold so Tesla needs to fix this for us folks that live in the desert.
You don't have to look away from the road to see your speed limit any more than with a front console. .. Upper left hand corner... a nano second glance... easy peezy.... And all the entertainment and climate functions can be controlled by voice command, including windshield wipers, and fan speed. I love the minimalistic design. I'm glad Tesla didn't waste any money on a front console. .... And my wife loves it because she said that the front display lighting, even when on dim, has always bothered her a night. ..... And the moon roof has ultra-violet filtering, meaning you can't get a sunburn. ...... And dang, man. I'm getting 275 miles at highway speed, which is not EPA. ..310 miles driving around town. I even drove 233 miles one day with temp getting as low as 12F. I got an implied range of 245 miles with snow tires, and seat heating and heated steering wheel on, and cabin temp at a toasty 77F. ..... I know how much kWh my Model Y is consuming and it works out to $39 for 1000 miles of range. My wife's similar sized gas SUV costs about $190 to go 1000 miles.
I love the clean design. I've only driven Tesla's since 2013-you get used to controls quickly unless you have problems with that. Nav on autopilot signals for you. FSD does everything for you! no start button no key (phone key) what's your daily driving needs. every morning charge to 70-80%. Should work for most.
Hands down the BEST and MOST INFORMATIVE video I have ever seen on the Model Y. Right up there with Ryan Shaw, and I sincerely appreciate how honest you are. Thanks Franklin!
You were probably the most honest Tesla owner I have heard so far on reviewing your Tesla. No question Musk dazzled everyone with this futuristic technology of a vehicle. He really wasn't going the luxury, style or comfort with these since as you mentioned are better options with those features. You mentioned the same complaints I seen in other Tesla videos, the sun roof, minimized interior, horrible riding, collision sensors, actual driving range (where we have a new phrase - "range anxiety"), etc. What about those tires, have you replaced them yet as they wear out pretty fast. Also temperature effects the battery negatively whether it's cold or hot weather. How about waiting time for getting your Tesla charged, you didn't mention that. I've seen some videos where there multiple Tesla's lined up at a Super Charging station. I guess you are leasing so you won't have to worry about after warranty repairs which I have seen many of those and they are not cheap. The really reason folks buy these cars is purely for saving on gas and maintenance, but really if you keep this car for 10 years how much money will you really save including maintenance.
I have been driving a LEAF for the last 7 years. You have to plan out your trips, don't use the heater (yes I see my breath in my car), keep it under 62 mph, never accelerate hard and coast on all downhills.
@throw away - The thing for me is that the LEAF shortcomings can be lived with given its cost. The Tesla 3 & Y, on the other hand, at $48K - $65K, the fit & finish, glitchy software, ergonomic & function design shortcomings, are hard to accept.
Thankyou very much for this video, I'm very grateful, I just want a comfortable drama-free experience, very happy I retained my loyal, reliable, l6 yr old car.
My Model Y is on order and I'm anxious about whether I've made a good decision. The competition is practically non existent. I had a Nissan Leaf before, so I'm sold on EVs in general. Thanks for your perspective.
Glad it was helpful, I agree with you, in the EV space no one really competes with Tesla mainly due to the Super Charging network, however they have a ton of work to do to make the Model Y worth its $50,000USD price tag or Make the S / X cheaper
@Franklin Reid yep, I was hoping the social infrastructure bill would make the Y more affordable. My configuration is coming in at $58k thanks to multiple price hikes. The only options I selected were black exterior and white seats.
@@FranklinReid_ Does your model y have the older style resistance heater as opposed to the octoval e heat pump? My understanding it's made a noticeable difference.
@gruivis - I would think the VW and Hyundai new EVs would be good options to look at. But I guess you had put in your order well before the release of the VW and Hyundai.
@20 Luzer I made my reservation in November... for a June delivery! As far as competition goes, there are some high end models that might compare to the Y but these are 1st generation cars, and I'd most likely be looking at 2023 to actually take delivery. The BMW iX is maybe between the Model Y & X but it starts at $83k. And I don't think it will have as sophisticated autopilot or charging network. Probably won't be as field upgradeable with OTA updates either. So I guess I just talked myself back into the Y :)
Thanks for your honest review. A lot of the others I see is always like this " my interior is falling apart, the battery doesn't last as long, etc. but I still love my tesla" this is so weird to me
Superb presentation! Even though you're speaking rather quickly, you enunciate each word clearly. This is one of the best presentations I've heard. And you covered many of the issues that would be crucial to me as a potential EV buyer. Many thanks!
Great video and very useful for me. I have a deposit down on a Model Y and may still get a Y, but am also looking at others such as the Ionic 5. Your video pointed out a lot of things I had not seen in other Model Y videos. Thanks!
Thank you. Very honest. It’s hard to get real info considering the number of fanboys of Tesla / Musk on the internet. I just test drove a ‘24 MY and I was mostly disappointed. I also hated one pedal driving. You got to maintain a very precise foot position and as soon as you move your foot back the car aggressively brakes and it’s super uncomfortable.
A year after you posted this, it is still a helpful insight for those wading through the minefield of promises, half-truths, and damned lies surrounding the EV market! Thank you.
I've owned my Model Y Performance for a year now. Good review, but you are a bit too nit-picky regarding your complaints of the vehicle. I agree that the interior is cheap and simple, but that's because the most you are spending on the car is going towards the technology of the car. The range of your car is terrible because you live in a colder climate and you're driving the car too hard. You forgot to mention that there's is little to no maintenance for the car.
Franklin, thanks for the excellent, thought provoking video. I have a white 22 MY LR with white interior, tow hitch and FSD on order. Forecast delivery date is 6/10/22 to 7/8/22. Hope it will be produced in Texas and come with 4680’s. I’m 71 with an incurable blood cancer (multiple myeloma) and have a likely misplaced belief FSD will actually work in the next 12 to 24 months. Have major concerns with vehicle’s fit and finish, ride quality, lack of HUD and range which are at least partially offset by Tesla’s Supercharger network and technology. There’s a chance I’ll give up the $250 deposit and go for something like the Iconix 5. (I’ve had a Cybertruck (3 motor variant with FSD) reservation since the day after it was announced, but who knows when it will actually be delivered or what the final price will be.) A lot to think about. Thanks again for the video.
Hey Bill. So sorry to hear about your condition. I took delivery of MY LR 10 days ago with a similar configuration to yours. If you'd like another opinion, I'd say skip the FSD. The cruise control on this car is terrible and FSD only exasperates it. Some things they don't tell you when you order it, in Auto Steer and FSD, you are forced to have the auto high beams on which means when your driving on the highway at night, the car will flash drives in front of you and oncoming traffic very very often. I felt like such a jerk the first time I tried to use it at night and I'm sure every other car on the road hated me as well. This can't be turned off if you use FSD... FSD on the highway is not very reliable. Mine changes lanes randomly even if there isn't another car around. It will also try to cut cars off while they are approaching on the left and doesn't give enough time to get into an exit lane when exiting the highway. Even using just the traffic-aware cruise control, you will get A LOT of phantom breaking. Yesterday on a country two-lane state route, my Y would rapidly decelerate, accompanied by an annoying beeping, more than 10 mph every time an oncoming large truck passed. Thank goodness no one was behind me, but it makes the cruise control close to useless unless you keep your foot on the accelerator. (So much for a relaxing car ride through the country) Save the money on FSD and take a really nice vacation instead.
I'm a Tesla fan. Yet I have never been insider one. My next car will be a new Tesla Y. But the price is sobering. I was just at the site and it looks like I will be spending $80k for all the features. And that doesn't even include after market things I would want. I'm in dreamland. So videos like yours really help with my expectations. I need to go to a Tesla meetup to hopefully at least sit in one. Even though I probably see 50 Tesla's per day here in the SF Bay Area. $80k is real. At that price I want to love it and not lament. Aftermarket may help me get there. So, I guess the car I want will cost me $100k I need to make more money...
I'm new to Tesla, 2 months into our MYP. It's a 50/50 love/hate relationship. Love the acceleration and brake regen. Love having the cabin preheated and ready to go. Love the way the steering feels. Charging at home and waking up to a full....well 80% battery. I love the button for the door. I hate? The cruise control and autopilot are useless. The car uses AT&T, so if you live or work in a bad reception area, you lose a ton of features, even voice commands stop working. The cameras don't work when it's too dark or they fog up. The safety alerts are obnoxious and not even close to being right(It warned me a car was stopping, after the car had already turned and left).The basic electronics don't seem any better than basic ice cars. My phone as key doesn't work a few times a week. App can't connect multiple times a week to preheat cabin. Spotify doesn't always auto play. Car has issues with phone calls and volume. Heck, last week at lunch it left the car running in my drive way after I parked it(Now I worry about it not shutting off after parking). Auto wipers and Auto Hi Beams are probably worst in class. Frunk is a pain to use. No spare tire. Poor suspension. The Glass! I feel like I'm getting sunburned and it's not even summer yet. Nav is meh. Voice commands is okay but leaves a lot of room for improvement. I don't like the new UI, I feel like it was a step backwards. Auto climate is great for me but my better half hates it and always uses manual. Adjusting heated seats up and down for rear passengers is lame. Cloud of smoke/steam from the front of the car due to the heat pump. Delay engaging drive after pressing the brake pedal when first entering. Lagging cameras.
@@JoseVazquez-fu2izlol. It’s a weighted 50/50. I really do love the way it drives. I just wish the rest was better. I did tint the windows yesterday which made a huge difference!
@@JoseVazquez-fu2iz Cant help you there. I’m in California, coldest my area gets is 20F very light snow if any. Range took a huge dip. Cameras fog up. New auto climate function is still tripping over itself, one update will keep the windshield is fog free, the next update I have to manually turn on defrost. Feet are cold on auto mode. Seat heaters are a bit confused. Heated steering wheel is the best I have ever used. I preheat the car every morning, it’s defrosted by the time I leave. We are in the 60F range now, and will move into 100F weather, already bought the roof shade, which actually helps keep the cold out as well, go figure.
Glad you enjoyed it, it's still the best EV on the market, don't let my video discourage you just mentally prep yourself for all of these and a host of other issues I didn't mention in the video
You are correct, I did not watch Tesla battery day, in fact I didnt even know that was a thing. Regardless of what future tech they are showing off its not in their cars now therefore making it all theoretical until it hits production units.
I’ve had my Model Y for two weeks. I have very few issues with my MY. Mine is a 2023 and I was surprised how good the ride quality is after hearing so many complain. I agree with the comments regarding the panoramic glass roof. I hate it! I have a shade on order to take care of that. I drive 90 miles one way, to and from work 7-8 times a month and so range hasn’t been an issue. I agree with Franklin on many of the things he said but not everything. The interior is fine for me, although, I do miss an adjustable headrest. Out of all that I have said, I am very happy with my purchase. I’m even thinking of maybe getting a Model X. I should also say that I used to drive premium Mazda CX5. My wife drives that now 😂. I do miss my HUD though. Tesla needs to get one immediately. Everyone’s mileage varies(no pun intended) but the truth is I enjoy my Model Y. Some won’t.
Actually, nope, high acceleration but not flooring it, but yes, I like to drive fast, it's never been a problem for me before in my ICE should not be a problem in my EV
Franklin - the suspension is SPORT tuned, so it's FIRMER, if you want a SOFT ride, there are Garages to get a LIFT kit, or SOFT suspension. go check out what Unplugged Performance can do, they can even make a STOCK Tesla a TRACK monster.
This is the best Tesla videos I’ve seen 10/10. Question.. if you could do it again would you still replace the bummer with the model y? Im in a similar situation
Thank you! Honest question with the knowledge I have now, yes only because the resell value on that tesla after two years of use is 70k, considering it was a 53k car thats a big come up XD
The sweet spot (bearing in mind ride stiffness ) is the model Y LR … BUT WITH the $2000 performance boost. This gives 0-60 in 4.2S … which sounds perfect for all round fun. There is no alternative purchase … Nothing matches the MY
It def is the sweet spot pricewise, In an ideal world we would have gotten the model X which would remedy some of the dislikes I have for this car but that's just far outside the budget 😅Im hoping the next gen Y has a bunch of improvements most desired? an instrument cluster
the recc to charge to only 80-90% is not to get the full range (wonder what he was thinking when he said that lol) it's to preserve long term battery health. If going on a road trip, sometimes charging to 100% is needed. Also short range doesn't mean extra electricity, it's just proportional to your miles driven. And even if using supercharging all the time, it's still cheaper per mile than gas. Cost per mile is the key metric. The shocks seem to be a common point of concern. Hope Tesla hears that and fixes it.
Thanks for a great review. It’s a nice break from the evangelistic reviews that predominate. Also, thanks for comparing this to a comparably priced vehicle. I’ve ridden in a few friends’ Teslas. It definitely doesn’t seem like a luxury experience. That’s especially true in the winter, when you can’t use the heater for anything besides short trips around town.
Yes! thats my thought exactly, they need like 4-5 more years to make it right, I think we'll get their, but I dont know if Tesla will be leading that charge in a few years
the next 1-2 years are going to be interesting in the EV market. the upcoming EVs like GV60, GV70, Lexus RZ, Lyriq, Fisker Ocean, Rivian R1S are going to set the new standards in the EV market. if at least 1 or 2 of them can stand, Tesla's monopolistic days are over.
Oh another thing that I see you didn't mention is when you got passengers it also drain the juice/range a lot also. If your cabin is full of people you will loose around 50 range.
When I got my 2018 Model 3, the voice commands were one of those promises that hadn't bear any fruit at the time. It was worse than useless... at the time. Also, the autopilot actually felt dangerous. The regular updates had transformed the car over a period of time. And, while it's the same car from 2018, it is night and day different with what I have now. The voice commands work like my Android and I've never felt safer. That being said, people need to take a hard look at what they want because, if nothing else, Tesla has changed the paradigm as to how people should be looking at cars now. Much like Apple had changed how people utilize their phones. And you can see other manufacturers picking up the ball. It's a good time to switch to an EV. Tesla or not. Tesla hate, though, is something I don't think I'd ever really understand unless I wanted to dig into the mind of an idiot.
I think you make some solid points about the frustrations of range not being as advertised. Honestly, I haven't seen an electric car that has ever been close to what is advertised, but I will say the model Y's range is suitable for probably 99% of the population. I live in Arizona and am on an EV electric plan that allows me to pay .06 cents per KW to charge this thing over night. Which has resulted in my electric bill only increasing by a few dollars every month. I do think in a perfect world. 450 miles of range would be ideal to combat all the variables that lead to not getting those EPA estimates. I don't like the small window out the back too, but the technology and safety features of the car are incredible and make up for the lack of visibility. Also, I purchased a sunroof to cover the pano roof during the summer months, and that is a feature I still love about the car. I will add that I think everyone should tint their vehicle the moment they get it to help cut down on the greenhouse effect. Lately, I love your critique about the nuances of doing simple task like opening the glove box or adjusting the A/C. These thing are way more complicated than they need to be, and I really hope in the future they can go back to using manual processes. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
Wow! Nicely done…..after totaling my prius…..i wanted an ev…..i wasnt sure i would like one, so i chose a cheap one to whet my appetite. I bought a little fiat 500e. The car has been fun to drive, however…..my range is much, much less!! I live in south miami…….i have run out of juice just driving to the edge of city! I wish i had a lot more range.. but this was an experiment. I can hardly believe that i have now driven this car for over 4 years with few incidents…. I have to plan my trips carefully. I work for an airline….so there were no road trips…..i just used it basically for little short trips & to work. I have saved a ton of money. I have bought no gas for 4 years! I have had little maintenances except for tires….and for this little car, they were quite cheap! .. i have been learning a lot about teslas over this time……i understand that driving habits and using a/c, heat, etc can affect your range…..however, using the heated seats has no bearing…..when it does get a bit cold….i simply turn on the heated seat & keep my range. I’m sure this car has little suspension….but i tend to buy smaller cars…..( just a preference). I have my order for my LR MY and it is slated for a june delivery. I plan to have all windows tinted as the so fla sun can really heat ! If that doesnt work, i think they have some type of covers…… I’m also getting as much PPF as i can afford…my only thing i would hate would probably be that i love listening to satellite radio.. so i will just have to use my phone. This will probably be the biggest car i have ever owned….& my first SUV>. But i think i will live…,i hope the quality is better…….i guess I’ll have to wait & see on that one….. you threw a lot of hate at your car…..& yet you wear a TESLA hoodie! Lol! I do understand…….i hope that i can deal with these problems !! Right now there are a lot of EV’s coming and many are less expensive…..that Fisker looks awfully good! I’m in it for the long run……i like that Tesla has a network of chargers where i simply won’t have to worry…..and the future just looks better…..since they have been in the game for much longer than most…… i hope your car experiences get better! Good luck!!
Hey thanks for sharing your experience, I didn't even know the 500e was an EV shows how little I know about them 😅I do think the Tesla network is the best EV charging network out there. but with them opening up the standard to other manufactures I think it will greatly open the possibilitiess in the future. Good luck with your next EV purchase, my wife and I are already shopping for the next one and its gonna be difficultt
so, my TM3 perf 2023 is kickass! given i live in the desert - 180 degrees in the summer - my battery does GREAT! Used to own a 2017 ioniq - 55 MPG - This tesla is STILL 60% cheaper, cuz I only charge at home - .15 per kwh - Beats my old GAS car and I always wave when i pass EVERY gas station and/or when i stop to clean my HUGE windows! Post Script: Way too petty, Fran - remember, less is always MORE - in my op. ;-]]
I am a huge fan of Tesla the company, but you explained why I won't be buying a Tesla anytime soon. It is just horribly inconvenient. Also, I am not interested in harsh driving suspension. Still, I think Tesla in 10 years will change all of this when they have actual competition. Still thank you to Tesla for creating this industry and saving the planet,
The suspension is geared towards giving superior handling. I like that driving on interstate highways with the a sport utility under control and flat on curves and superior steering.
@@AvinashSingh-jv7uq Grid storage will save the planet and Tesla is one of the largest players in that space. Apparently you are the one that doesn't do any research.
Good points on the negative side - small rear window, hot glass roof, real-world range and a few more. I like the minimalistic interior design, however, as it is less distracting and less cluttered compared to a knobs-and-buttons design. I don't check my speed much at all with maybe a glance infrequently. In my ICE car I look at the instrument cluster and think: 'what do I care what RPM I'm hitting?' and do I really need to see the water temperature all the time? The Cruise Control settings like following distance? Meh! In the Tesla there are no gear selections so that's just like an automatic transmission. I do like the voice commands but one problem is if you want to turn the radio volume down while talking to your partner, you have to interrupt that to have a little conversation with Siri or whomever! As for the UI change with V11, I never drove the earlier version UI so it's no disruption at all for me but I do understand it's a bit jarring for many. Probably boils down to personal preferences from what you are used to driving and what you like to do with a car such as down-shifting for power, etc. Thanks for the rundown - well done.
thank you, great video, you are the first one to address the issue of a touch screen as a distraction during driving, I also was thinking about it. Agree with you that a big glass on top is a good thing in a warm climate and I am in Florida. I do not own Tesla now and started to have second thoughts about ordering model Y, thank you again, great video
You took the words out of my mouth. You nailed it. It's a love/hate relationship for me. On second day of ownership, the rear motor went out. Four weeks later I got it back. After having it back for 3 weeks the heater went out . Temperatures here in SW Ohio 10s - 40s. Most relevant though is the amount of power used - I too felt lied to about the "range". I too, used much more energy for a short trip than I thought I would. I'm considering selling it.
oh wow, sounds like you've bead a bit of a nightmare car, and i'm sorry to hear that. Its def a great car but Tesla has a long way to go when it comes to QC. Opening the supercharger network is def going to breed some competition that will hopefully make them fix what's wrong in the supply chain and design. THanks for the comment!
I was about to drop a vid solely on the whole range thing and am considering selling my 21 MY lr. The range is absurd to say the least. I felt lied to and just pretty mush pay for it but drive my 2001 Lexus rx300 instead bc of the range thing (I drive too much)
Well all EV vehicles have this range problem. Myself being retired, I use my EV for around town driving and short single charge trips. I charge my EV at home all the time. It is an ideal vehicle for me.
There is no difference between looking at a conventional cluster and the tablet. Either way your eyes leave the road. I don't understand this point at all. But your point on rear visibility is right on. As far as the minimalistic interior, nobody should complain because everybody that buys one knows about it.
False.... When the cluster is directly in front of you, you look at it less. Mainly because it's always within your field of view. The Tesla's setup forces you to turn your head as you drive, meaning you are more likely to get distracted. Doesn't help when everything is buried in menus.
Love the review! However, you mentioned that you reside in the northeast. I too am a northeast resident and considering a model y. How is the vehicle in the snow? With the 20” wheels?
You’re are 1000 percent right, especially regarding the range not being accurate at all, I just got mine, and find myself charging it several times a week and I’m driving no more then 3-4 miles 3 times a week. They need to update the battery life. It’s not much range at all. I’m from the North East as well, surrounded by high rises, our supercharges are in parking garages so you have to pay just to enter the garage on top of the charging fee. A bit misleading. I live in a high rise that doesn’t have EV charges capability, so I need to charge it in a random parking garage. Appreciate the technology aspect but the range is misleading which discourages me from adding the engine booster since it will drain the battery faster.
I think you might want to get that checked out because your Tesla should not need to be charged several times a week if you only drive 4 miles ! That doesn’t sound good!
Everything you said is true, especially the range, the car is too heavy for it’s battery. It’s basically a cheap SUV on the platform of the model 3 they made in a rush.
Glad to hear something other than fanboy opinions and those justifying an expensive purchase. I’ve been eyeballing these for a while and although I plan to take zero road-trips in it some of those negatives hit too close to home. Good video.
Glad I could help! and yes I felt the same, before I got mine I saw videos only highlighting positives no one would cover the negatives so I was super shocked when I experienced them for myself.
It truly is. It's a car and it has pros and cons. Yhis is an objective review. I feel a lot of the Tesla owners aren't fanboys. Competition will make all EVs better. Overall, I think they're the best solution for cars although if hydrogen fuel cells ever mature they may make for a good solution (though it doesn't seem cars are their best application). Each one has its pros and cons, including Tesla. Hopefully, Tesla will improve not only the software but aspects of the the design and hardware when their popular 3 and Ys are updated. But that may not happen for some time.
Your comments on range didn't seem to match the specs for a new Tesla Y nor my own experience. A new Tesla Model Y LR gets 330 miles of range EPA. Tesla increased the battery size in the Y a few months ago and drivers actually get close to the rated range in good weather. Of course cold weather reduces this but with the new heat pump and octovalve this is now also minimized. Also, if you need to keep warm for a prolonged period sitting n cold weather a Tesla has camp mode that you can engage to keep everyone warm with minimal energy usage and no fumes to inhale. I have a new Model Y and absolutely love it. Another thing people need to consider when comparing a gas car with say 400 miles of range to a Tesla Y with 330 miles of range is that if you charge your Tesla every night to 90% (295-300 miles) thats more than enough for daily driving even for a long commute. One way to think of it is that not only on average will your Tesla have 300 miles in the battery in the morning, in fact it will never deviate from this range every single morning. That's an amazing feeling. By contrast your 400 mile BMW ICE car one morning may have 375 miles but other mornings will inevitably have 120 miles or 60 miles. In other words so there's no avoiding having to drive to the gas station and sometimes, as we all know, when we least want to on the way to an appointment. So I would take the Tesla scenario every day of the week all year long. So in my view having a Tesla Model Y is just a better experience. Your concerns here are more valid if you can't plug in at night but for people who can, it really is a great experience. I'm never going back to ICE for this reason and for many others.
I am in the market for a new SUV and Tesla was one of my options. I test drove the Model Y and have to say that like everyone, I love the speed and acceleration. But that is where it ends. When you are on the road, there is very little you can adjust due to the lack of buttons. The exterior looks nice from afar, but once you come in close, everything looks cheap. The interior was even worse. Everything on the inside looked like they used extremely cheap quality materials and were cheaply put together. One TH-camr said it best, you paid for a Mercedes but it feel and looks like a Kia.
I'm in the process just now looking at videos all about EV's because I want one. Your video was great. As far as the glass roof goes IF I got the model Y the first thing I'd do would be to take it to a tint shop. Another thing I've heard talked about are noises (squeaks and rattles), fit and finish and generally lower quality materials that what you might get from other manufactures. Last but not least has to do with the lack of instrument cluster and the smallish text one the video screen (I wear "reading glasses" so I can read text) and it would be very uncomfortable having to put 0n and take off while trying to access functions.I think ALL manufactures over state the range though. As far as 0-60 times when do you actually NEED to go 0-60 in under 4 seconds the Plaid 0-60 under 2 seconds I'd rather have more range and sacrifice lightning fast acceleration. My Alltrack 170hp is plenty fast enough 0-60 around 7 seconds more than enough for "normal driving.
This is a good review, but it should be noted that the range data for these cars is determined by the EPA - not by Tesla or other manufacturers. As with the MPG ratings for ICE vehicles, these estimates should be understood as the best possible results under ideal conditions - not generally what we can expect in our own experience.
The reality of Teslas is that they're realistically $30K cars with a lot of expensive battery technology that drives them up to $60K+. They throw in a bunch of cheap tech frills to try to excite people about Teslas, but that's all they are, cheap tricks that lose their wow factor a few months after ownership. If you're okay with that, then Teslas are for you. I personally demand a higher quality out of what I pay for. I'll never fully appreciate the expensive batteries in my car, so I want to appreciate a high build quality instead. Teslas are not for me. Thanks for sharing this video!
LOL distraction are in every car. To change the speed of the fan on my Everest, I have look way down on the center instrument cluster and push on of the many buttons that look the same at a glance. My gas cars don’t get the advertised range of either the gas car or the diesel SUV. You compare apples to oranges most of the time
I have a model 3. There is no gear to look down to. And as far as looking at your speed. Even in a "normal " car I never moved my head to look down. My eyes can glance.
Tesla plays the minimalist game, but in actuality . hardwired controls are removed to make these vehicles cheaper to make , not easier to use, the complexity of going through screens makes this vehicles unsafe in my eyes, so windows fog up and I have to go through an Ipad screen to clear my windows, this is a safety issue.
Thank you for a very honest video. I agree with you that some of the features that are "gimmicky" just so that Tesla can tout their difference from other cars, unfortunately, those are not usability or ergonomic improvement and in fact annoyance if not safety concerns. The other are poorly designed and glitchy features/functions like phantom braking, rolling stops, poor rear visibility, over reliance on software superiority over human control, and over reliance on the main screen to control the simplest things. But the thing that bother me the most is the shoddy quality like fit and finish, cheap plastic and materials for $60K-$125K cars and the fact that it's been 7+ years and Tesla still send shoddy final products to their customers. I mean, what other cars do customers have to do finger testing on the gaps of car panels when they take delivery of their car, what other cars do fellow customer recommend immediate paint coat proofing or coating to protect leather seats from staining, etc. For all of the geniuses and tech wizards and brilliant engineers Tesla have, why don't they have those people work on the quality stuff, it's been 7+ years now and we still see the same problem. I don't see customers do that to $18K subcompact cars and we have Tesla customers thinking these things are the norm? Don't get me wrong, I would be the first person to giving a standing ovation for Tesla's innovation and pushing other car mfrs to offer more EVs but the quality and questionable designs do not belong to cars of this price range. I know the reality is that wealthy people can buy whatever they want and they can live with the final product but since when do luxury products have such deficiencies, be it cars, clothes & shoes, watches, etc?
I agree with you for everything you mentioned in ur video, I live in the north east , my 2022 y doesn’t match my Previous RX 450h. But I always thought , that it’ll take some time getting used to it. The best advice I got from someone to avoid the panic of running out of range is to keep my old car , I don’t drive much in the snow ,but when I do my mom comes along and I have to keep the car on for warmth. Sadly I have to wait for good weather to be able to explore it more. It has been 2 months and I only have 200 miles on it. Do you think I should charge it every day or if it’s at 80% not hook it up? That’s my biggest question and I got different messages from u tube videos?
Glad you got a chance to check out the video, if your not driving it not need to hook it up, you'll notice the battery drain a bit but that's ok. THe range anxiety wears off after a while, I had both cars before the lease on my BMW ran out and it helped with that but once I gave it back as long as I wasnt traveling too far I felt ok, also the super charging network is super strong and you can always find a charging station at least here in the tristate area [NY/NJ/CT] hope this helps, and congratulations in the acquisition
I have a RX 350 and thinking of trading it in for the Y as well. Do you regret the decision or was it the best decision you have made? I am also in the NY area and have tons of superchargers actually 3 within 1/2 mile from where I live.. would you buy this again over the Lexus?
@@happyhippo1710 Hi , no I don’t regret my decision after I got comfortable with my y( especially with gas prices now) But also , I only have 600 miles on it since end of December . Keeping the Lexus gave me a piece of mind. Good luck 😊
I test drove a 2022 Model Y and the Hyundai Ioniq 5 this week. I totally agree and am having a very tough time deciding which to go with. The driver experience, features, ride quality, etc is much better on the Hyunadi. It also has 800v fast charging which will charge faster than the MY. The downside is less storage space, much lower towing capacity, I don't like the outside looks as much on the Hyundai, and I don't know what resale value would be like in the future. Tesla with the new Korean EV's def has some serious competition, for anyone who doesn't care about the super techie features of the Tesla, they would be hard pressed to get it over the Hyunadi Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, or soon to be launched Genesis GV60.
We have both vechicle and TRUST me you be happier w the Tesla. My wife and I always take the Tesla when we are together. Only thing is the warranty and ride is better in Hyundai but that is it all other things are better w Tesla. Service of Hyundai is awful absolutely horrible. It takes several months min. to get anything fixed.
@@yunque30gmail Thanks for the feedback, how long have you had the Ioniq 5? What do you like about the Tesla more overall? Greatly appreciate your response and input, it's hard to find people who own both.
I'm gonna agree with Ken, at least for now, the main thing you get with tesla is that supercharger network, its unparalleled at this time, and charging america stations are often broken and much slower to charge. as sad as it is, unless you have two vehicles id stick with Tesla as the EV choice until chargers get faster and networks get stronger or they bring 3rd parties to the tesla network here in america
Good info about UI, moonlight roof etc. Thank you! But the range complaints barely have anything to do with this car since Model Y has one of the best range in this price range. So you're comparing apples to oranges here.
I cross-shopped a Tesla Model 3 and BMW 340i for a couple years. It was a tough decision for me, but I ended up going with the BMW recently. Cost was very similar, but that cost seemed to be more justified in the BMW. Do you prefer your BMW or the Y?
I 100% prefer my BMW over the Tesla Model Y at least, if we had an X or an S which is higher quality im not sure if that would change my opinion at all. As of right now if we did get a 2nd ICE car it would absolutely be an X3 or X5 though I can tell you that much. Im also interested to check out BMW and Audi's EV's they seem to be the best of both worlds im just afraid of the charging america network. id really rather wait for other manufactures to start using teslas super charger network.
Franklin - the Tesla minimalist interior serves a Purpose. reducing Distractions. most Everything can be voice commands, Tesla command actually works and is Better than many OEM's. the main screen can now be customized with Quick buttons of frequent used controls. and the Tesla can also recognize Multiple users, and set your preference. so you don't have to change settings when you change cars or Drivers. in you Prefer a center Drivers display, there are MANY aftermarket solutions, like HUD and LCD display. ELON is readying us for a day when your car has no Mirrors, Pedals, control stalks, or a Steering wheel. and that day is FAST approaching.
Leased, financed or owned I don't do aftermarket mods to my cars in any situation. Level 5 autonomous driving is very far away, and tesla will never reach that stage with their cars in their current form, not enough sensors.
@ Mark Plott - "reducing Distractions" so that's why drivers need to glance away from the front to do things, and of course watch Netflix and play games, not to mention promise of the car will drive automatically while you do other things. Sounds like fanboy making excuses.
@@markplott4820 I can't use my Basic Cruise control in my MYP on my 7 mile commute. Too many phantom and hard brakes. I keep trying to use it, but it gets scared with curves and oncoming traffic. Generally slows me down 20-30 mph before it figures out nothing was wrong in the first place. Autopilot is worse. I basically have a 60k vehicle with no cruise control. I don't see lvl 5 happening anytime soon.
Thank you for the review. The negatives you share have been verified by other reviewers during their reviews. Having a comfortable nicely appointed vehicle is important to me. Also, I strongly dislike the feeling of being at the mercy of the user interface and the whims of software developers. Being a little older and more of a traditionalist, I is like the idea of not having traditional dashboard controls for standard features as well as being distracted by the constant use of the “Tesla Tablet”. So many accidents are caused by distractive driving and to me, this just exacerbates the situation. I pass!! Thanks again.🙂
I'm used to quickly using my Tesla interface, so it's not distracting. Most settings are adjusted by me to my preferences so I rarely need to use them. Plenty of AUTO settings work well. I was somewhat intimidated with the interface initially but prefer it now. Various cameras are good. I like Tesla free automatic updates, sentry and dash cam, The Nav is very good and is conveniently synced with trip planer for easy charging on road trips.
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Really nice production quality for a small channel, well done!!
Much appreciated!
Or how about just really nice production quality…
I had a test drive today, and can’t believe we discussed the exact same points you mentioned in the points you don’t like about this car. I just came here to see if there is any difference 3 years later in the design.
Thanks for your review... you ask some good questions!
Here's how I looked at it, prior to purchasing my 2022 Model Y Performance....
I purchased it for around $65k, plus tax.
Searching the web right now for used 2021 Model Y's, just as a sample, CarGuru has a 2020 Model Y long range, with over 12,000 miles, and they're asking $65,700... a 2021 Model YLR with 3,772 miles, they're asking $68,000... a 2020 Model Y Performance, with 13,125, they're asking $61,950.
My point is, if you purchase a Tesla Model Y, keep it for a few years, you're probably going to get back a large portion of your money. Wait times for a new Model Y, LR is October 2022, or, if you upgrade, maybe June 2022.
Most people do NOT want to wait that long, so they'll get a clean, used Model Y, pay nearly the same price as a new vehicle, but they'll have it today!
Safety is also a major factor for me, and Tesla's have had the highest safety rating from the NHTSA of any car.... Overall Rating 5 Star, Frontal Crash 5 Star, Side Crash 5 Star, Rollover 5 Star!
Not only did the Model 3 have all 5 Stars, but Tesla IMPROVED the Model Y which is based on the Model 3, and made it even safer than the Model 3.
Alot of factors go into choosing a vehicle, not the least is where you live and the climate!
I'm in sunny California, so I don't have to deal with lost range due to freezing weather. I typically don't drive over 50 miles a day, so if I get 300 miles on a full charge, or only 250 miles, or even 220 miles... 90% of the time, I simply don't care! It'll easily give me my 50 miles a day! I charge every night, and have a full (well, 90%) battery in the morning.
Thanks again for an informative review! The good news is... if you really HATE your Model Y, you won't have much trouble selling it!
Thanks for your comment, this is a great perspective. Its almost unheard of to have a "car" appreciate in value over time, Dave ramsey would eat his own words right now .
I think if I lived in a warmer climate the range issues for sure would not matter to me, but for now I suffer up north lol. I agree with you for quick trips around town and non long distance travel the range is perfectly fine.
I wish tesla offered lease buyouts XD
Thanks for your comment!
Appreciate your thoughts! thank you!
That’s assuming there’s still going to be a shortage in a few years, you never know if that’s going to disappear. Teslas might be made faster etc.. considering they have Texas just opened. Prices might stabilize
@@neptunemike is giga texas open already ?
Your critiques were very helpful. You definitely made me feel good about my decision on passing on this car
My Model Y is the best car I ever bought. No problems. I feel very good about buying it.
Same for me.
I agree with your likes and dislikes except I've found that unlike previous vehicles, I actually have learned to use voice commands for so much more in this car so that makes some of the awkward features still easily manipulated
Can you do this for things that, like he mentioned, are more difficult to adjust like the AC controls?
@@jacobclement7707 yes you can change anything on climate with voice even the direction of the vents.
I have a model 3 and just ordered a Model Y. Things I dislike are: the seatbelt cannot be adjusted well enough for short people and goes up against my neck. The steering wheel is too thick for me. Doesn't have a heads up which you would expect with this technology. Should have blind spot indicators in the side mirrors. Things I really like are: feels great to drive, so much power. Non cluttered interior (I hate all the buttons in other cars and have never figured out what they all do). Great voice commands which is really my go-to for making changes. Easy charging at Tesla and non-Tesla chargers. Holds the road well. So easy to use basic functions like cruise control. The most fun car I have ever owned, hence why we have bought another!
Thanks for the fair review! This is much more helpful than generally evangelical reviews all around the web.
I recently was on vacation, driving my Tesla model Y a total of 1200 mi. I spent $110 total at Tesla Superchargers. I have solar panels for charging at home. I would have used about 50 gal of gasoline at $5 per gallon for $250 with my previous ICE compact sport utility. The Tesla superchargers were ubiquitous and convenient. Also at least 8 chargers at the locations and open 24/7. Stops were about 20-30 min which was no big deal since pit stops at restrooms, snacks, coffee, etc. are usual in any vehicle. I'll see in the longer term about lower needs and costs for maintenance?
Im glad to hear your road trip worked out, my family and I are doing our first road trip of the summer in a few weeks and i'm terrified hopefully we don't get stuck needing a charge.
It always nice to hear what others opinions are, it seems many things you don't like about the model Y were done to bring down costs, overall maintenances, and increase the efficiency at factory level due to a lot less parts. If the vehicle were to have a more fancy interior, better interior lighting, bigger rear mirror (which isn't even not necessary), adjustable moon roof, moon roof cover, an extra screen for your speedometer, you'd be paying a MUCH higher price. The vehicle is price more on the performance and safety components.
Great video. I like how you spoke about the good and bad about owning a Tesla. Most videos don't even mention this kind of stuff. I'm curious, does Tesla's come with a spare tire or use run flats?
You probably have the answer already but you have to call Tesla service to come give you the tiers when they are potentially flat, so that is kinda crap but not that big of a problem
Excellent review on your model y. Was curious about this car and wanted to get one. But I'll wait and see what else improves or changes in future.
Turn it to % the mileage depends solely on how you’re driving-speed and regen dependent. I drove my model 3 350miles on chill mode and backroads, had 30% battery left from a full charge when we left.
driving pleasure is the only factor that somehow justifies the purchase of the Tesla at 65K. if you mute it - a 25K CRV or CX-5 offers a better value-proposition in comparison. you upfront save almost 40+ grand and also get a car with more bells and whistles. the MY has quality issues, no luxury, no premium feel, horrible cabin noise, poor ride quality - but why is someone still ready to pay a hefty price? because of it's driving dynamics, not to buy and drive in chill mode. its like buying a 100K Porsche Macan and driving it in eco mode all the time to save money on gas.
This guys burning 40-50kwh/100km then no surprise he have big electricity bills ;)
You should probably contact Tesla and let them know, because they specfically list on their website that "Chill does not directly improve driving range, but using the increased torque and power available in Insane or Ludicrous mode can reduce range and efficiency"...but you were able to get over 400 miles of range just by using Chill mode even though Chill mode is simply a limiting acceleration function for those who have lower self control and do launches and crazy acceleration. Hmmm...very interesting.
@@reb1225 chill mode DEFINATELY makes a difference I’ve heard many owners say the same thing. idk what they are smoking limiting the acceleration limits the energy the battery has to put out..
@@Seacai150 I would agree that chill mode allows you to use more of the available range by limiting your acceleration function, but it doesn't provide "more" range. The range is the range. But some how you got over 400 miles on a M3 just by using chill mode. How many owners on here were able to do that on a M3?
I know this is a Model Y review, but your point about the vehicle being too hot in the summer applies to the Model 3 as well. I test drove a Model 3 today in 110 degree weather. The AC is inadequate. The airflow wasn’t cold and the cabin stayed relatively warm. My car’s AC blows ice cold so Tesla needs to fix this for us folks that live in the desert.
You don't have to look away from the road to see your speed limit any more than with a front console. .. Upper left hand corner... a nano second glance... easy peezy.... And all the entertainment and climate functions can be controlled by voice command, including windshield wipers, and fan speed. I love the minimalistic design. I'm glad Tesla didn't waste any money on a front console. .... And my wife loves it because she said that the front display lighting, even when on dim, has always bothered her a night. ..... And the moon roof has ultra-violet filtering, meaning you can't get a sunburn. ......
And dang, man. I'm getting 275 miles at highway speed, which is not EPA. ..310 miles driving around town. I even drove 233 miles one day with temp getting as low as 12F. I got an implied range of 245 miles with snow tires, and seat heating and heated steering wheel on, and cabin temp at a toasty 77F. .....
I know how much kWh my Model Y is consuming and it works out to $39 for 1000 miles of range. My wife's similar sized gas SUV costs about $190 to go 1000 miles.
I love the clean design. I've only driven Tesla's since 2013-you get used to controls quickly unless you have problems with that.
Nav on autopilot signals for you. FSD does everything for you!
no start button no key (phone key)
what's your daily driving needs. every morning charge to 70-80%. Should work for most.
Hands down the BEST and MOST INFORMATIVE video I have ever seen on the Model Y. Right up there with Ryan Shaw, and I sincerely appreciate how honest you are. Thanks Franklin!
😂 You’ve GOT to be joking!
Fran is a very good speaker and points out the shortcomings that other people don't mention.
All of those screen interactions are fine while you’re parked, but they are very unsafe while driving. I want physical buttons and knobs.
Great stuff man. Very strong information as I prepare to take delivery.
Great review as a tall driver myself, I was curious in terms of the cabin room etc. Thanks for the detailed recap.
You were probably the most honest Tesla owner I have heard so far on reviewing your Tesla. No question Musk dazzled everyone with this futuristic technology of a vehicle. He really wasn't going the luxury, style or comfort with these since as you mentioned are better options with those features. You mentioned the same complaints I seen in other Tesla videos, the sun roof, minimized interior, horrible riding, collision sensors, actual driving range (where we have a new phrase - "range anxiety"), etc. What about those tires, have you replaced them yet as they wear out pretty fast. Also temperature effects the battery negatively whether it's cold or hot weather. How about waiting time for getting your Tesla charged, you didn't mention that. I've seen some videos where there multiple Tesla's lined up at a Super Charging station. I guess you are leasing so you won't have to worry about after warranty repairs which I have seen many of those and they are not cheap. The really reason folks buy these cars is purely for saving on gas and maintenance, but really if you keep this car for 10 years how much money will you really save including maintenance.
probably you'll buy a new battery.
I have been driving a LEAF for the last 7 years. You have to plan out your trips, don't use the heater (yes I see my breath in my car), keep it under 62 mph, never accelerate hard and coast on all downhills.
@throw away - The thing for me is that the LEAF shortcomings can be lived with given its cost. The Tesla 3 & Y, on the other hand, at $48K - $65K, the fit & finish, glitchy software, ergonomic & function design shortcomings, are hard to accept.
Thankyou very much for this video, I'm very grateful, I just want a comfortable drama-free experience, very happy I retained my loyal, reliable, l6 yr old car.
My Model Y is on order and I'm anxious about whether I've made a good decision. The competition is practically non existent. I had a Nissan Leaf before, so I'm sold on EVs in general. Thanks for your perspective.
Glad it was helpful, I agree with you, in the EV space no one really competes with Tesla mainly due to the Super Charging network, however they have a ton of work to do to make the Model Y worth its $50,000USD price tag or Make the S / X cheaper
@Franklin Reid yep, I was hoping the social infrastructure bill would make the Y more affordable. My configuration is coming in at $58k thanks to multiple price hikes. The only options I selected were black exterior and white seats.
@@FranklinReid_ Does your model y have the older style resistance heater as opposed to the octoval e heat pump? My understanding it's made a noticeable difference.
@gruivis - I would think the VW and Hyundai new EVs would be good options to look at. But I guess you had put in your order well before the release of the VW and Hyundai.
@20 Luzer I made my reservation in November... for a June delivery! As far as competition goes, there are some high end models that might compare to the Y but these are 1st generation cars, and I'd most likely be looking at 2023 to actually take delivery. The BMW iX is maybe between the Model Y & X but it starts at $83k. And I don't think it will have as sophisticated autopilot or charging network. Probably won't be as field upgradeable with OTA updates either. So I guess I just talked myself back into the Y :)
Thanks for your honest review. A lot of the others I see is always like this " my interior is falling apart, the battery doesn't last as long, etc. but I still love my tesla" this is so weird to me
Superb presentation! Even though you're speaking rather quickly, you enunciate each word clearly. This is one of the best presentations I've heard.
And you covered many of the issues that would be crucial to me as a potential EV buyer. Many thanks!
Great video and very useful for me. I have a deposit down on a Model Y and may still get a Y, but am also looking at others such as the Ionic 5. Your video pointed out a lot of things I had not seen in other Model Y videos. Thanks!
Thank you. Very honest. It’s hard to get real info considering the number of fanboys of Tesla / Musk on the internet. I just test drove a ‘24 MY and I was mostly disappointed. I also hated one pedal driving. You got to maintain a very precise foot position and as soon as you move your foot back the car aggressively brakes and it’s super uncomfortable.
That was really well put together, thanks
Glad you liked it! thank you!
I decided to go for the Hyundai Kona electric rather than the Tesla after test driving both. Really glad I did. Solid and we'll thought out car.
A year after you posted this, it is still a helpful insight for those wading through the minefield of promises, half-truths, and damned lies surrounding the EV market!
Thank you.
I've owned my Model Y Performance for a year now. Good review, but you are a bit too nit-picky regarding your complaints of the vehicle. I agree that the interior is cheap and simple, but that's because the most you are spending on the car is going towards the technology of the car. The range of your car is terrible because you live in a colder climate and you're driving the car too hard. You forgot to mention that there's is little to no maintenance for the car.
Moon roof = solid / slidable slab
Sun roof = glass / slidable
Franklin, thanks for the excellent, thought provoking video. I have a white 22 MY LR with white interior, tow hitch and FSD on order. Forecast delivery date is 6/10/22 to 7/8/22. Hope it will be produced in Texas and come with 4680’s. I’m 71 with an incurable blood cancer (multiple myeloma) and have a likely misplaced belief FSD will actually work in the next 12 to 24 months. Have major concerns with vehicle’s fit and finish, ride quality, lack of HUD and range which are at least partially offset by Tesla’s Supercharger network and technology. There’s a chance I’ll give up the $250 deposit and go for something like the Iconix 5. (I’ve had a Cybertruck (3 motor variant with FSD) reservation since the day after it was announced, but who knows when it will actually be delivered or what the final price will be.)
A lot to think about. Thanks again for the video.
Hey Bill. So sorry to hear about your condition. I took delivery of MY LR 10 days ago with a similar configuration to yours. If you'd like another opinion, I'd say skip the FSD. The cruise control on this car is terrible and FSD only exasperates it. Some things they don't tell you when you order it, in Auto Steer and FSD, you are forced to have the auto high beams on which means when your driving on the highway at night, the car will flash drives in front of you and oncoming traffic very very often. I felt like such a jerk the first time I tried to use it at night and I'm sure every other car on the road hated me as well. This can't be turned off if you use FSD...
FSD on the highway is not very reliable. Mine changes lanes randomly even if there isn't another car around. It will also try to cut cars off while they are approaching on the left and doesn't give enough time to get into an exit lane when exiting the highway.
Even using just the traffic-aware cruise control, you will get A LOT of phantom breaking. Yesterday on a country two-lane state route, my Y would rapidly decelerate, accompanied by an annoying beeping, more than 10 mph every time an oncoming large truck passed. Thank goodness no one was behind me, but it makes the cruise control close to useless unless you keep your foot on the accelerator. (So much for a relaxing car ride through the country)
Save the money on FSD and take a really nice vacation instead.
@@mattr.6212 Thanks so much Matt for your reply! It will definitely help me in making my final decisions. Blessings … Bill
I'm a Tesla fan. Yet I have never been insider one. My next car will be a new Tesla Y. But the price is sobering. I was just at the site and it looks like I will be spending $80k for all the features. And that doesn't even include after market things I would want. I'm in dreamland.
So videos like yours really help with my expectations. I need to go to a Tesla meetup to hopefully at least sit in one. Even though I probably see 50 Tesla's per day here in the SF Bay Area.
$80k is real. At that price I want to love it and not lament. Aftermarket may help me get there. So, I guess the car I want will cost me $100k I need to make more money...
I'm new to Tesla, 2 months into our MYP. It's a 50/50 love/hate relationship. Love the acceleration and brake regen. Love having the cabin preheated and ready to go. Love the way the steering feels. Charging at home and waking up to a full....well 80% battery. I love the button for the door.
I hate? The cruise control and autopilot are useless. The car uses AT&T, so if you live or work in a bad reception area, you lose a ton of features, even voice commands stop working. The cameras don't work when it's too dark or they fog up. The safety alerts are obnoxious and not even close to being right(It warned me a car was stopping, after the car had already turned and left).The basic electronics don't seem any better than basic ice cars. My phone as key doesn't work a few times a week. App can't connect multiple times a week to preheat cabin. Spotify doesn't always auto play. Car has issues with phone calls and volume. Heck, last week at lunch it left the car running in my drive way after I parked it(Now I worry about it not shutting off after parking). Auto wipers and Auto Hi Beams are probably worst in class. Frunk is a pain to use. No spare tire. Poor suspension. The Glass! I feel like I'm getting sunburned and it's not even summer yet. Nav is meh. Voice commands is okay but leaves a lot of room for improvement. I don't like the new UI, I feel like it was a step backwards. Auto climate is great for me but my better half hates it and always uses manual. Adjusting heated seats up and down for rear passengers is lame. Cloud of smoke/steam from the front of the car due to the heat pump. Delay engaging drive after pressing the brake pedal when first entering. Lagging cameras.
Seems more like a 20/80 lol thanks for sharing
@@JoseVazquez-fu2izlol. It’s a weighted 50/50. I really do love the way it drives. I just wish the rest was better. I did tint the windows yesterday which made a huge difference!
@@beefuzzy310 where do you live? I would be curious to know how they behave cold start in winter time
@@JoseVazquez-fu2iz Cant help you there. I’m in California, coldest my area gets is 20F very light snow if any. Range took a huge dip. Cameras fog up. New auto climate function is still tripping over itself, one update will keep the windshield is fog free, the next update I have to manually turn on defrost. Feet are cold on auto mode. Seat heaters are a bit confused. Heated steering wheel is the best I have ever used. I preheat the car every morning, it’s defrosted by the time I leave. We are in the 60F range now, and will move into 100F weather, already bought the roof shade, which actually helps keep the cold out as well, go figure.
Nice review. I am close to ordering my model Y. Your review brings out a lot of issues to think about. Do I delay ordering for a year???
Glad you enjoyed it, it's still the best EV on the market, don't let my video discourage you just mentally prep yourself for all of these and a host of other issues I didn't mention in the video
Im thinking of just waiting for a cybertruck and just saving money for now
Franklin - apparently YOU did not watch Tesla BATTERY day video.
You are correct, I did not watch Tesla battery day, in fact I didnt even know that was a thing. Regardless of what future tech they are showing off its not in their cars now therefore making it all theoretical until it hits production units.
@@FranklinReid_ - made in TX right now, Delivery is this year. you will probably be able to order sooner than CA.
How about no manual door opener for the rear doors? If the power is off, you can’t open the doors from inside or out.
I’ve had my Model Y for two weeks. I have very few issues with my MY. Mine is a 2023 and I was surprised how good the ride quality is after hearing so many complain. I agree with the comments regarding the panoramic glass roof. I hate it! I have a shade on order to take care of that. I drive 90 miles one way, to and from work 7-8 times a month and so range hasn’t been an issue. I agree with Franklin on many of the things he said but not everything. The interior is fine for me, although, I do miss an adjustable headrest.
Out of all that I have said, I am very happy with my purchase. I’m even thinking of maybe getting a Model X. I should also say that I used to drive premium Mazda CX5. My wife drives that now 😂. I do miss my HUD though. Tesla needs to get one immediately.
Everyone’s mileage varies(no pun intended) but the truth is I enjoy my Model Y. Some won’t.
Thanks, Frank! I made a list myself after weeks of researching and completely agree with you!
yes, the people must know! thanks for checking out my video
Energy meter showed that you were flooring it
Actually, nope, high acceleration but not flooring it, but yes, I like to drive fast, it's never been a problem for me before in my ICE should not be a problem in my EV
I’m buying a tesla. Not cuz it’s electric, not cuz it’s luxury. I’m buying it because it drives itself.
Franklin - the suspension is SPORT tuned, so it's FIRMER, if you want a SOFT ride, there are Garages to get a LIFT kit, or SOFT suspension.
go check out what Unplugged Performance can do, they can even make a STOCK Tesla a TRACK monster.
Leased, financed or owned I don't do aftermarket mods to my cars in any situation.
@@FranklinReid_ Well said, for a $60K, seems like the customer shouldn't have to deal with suspension modification.
Thank you for the review, finally got some addressing some points I've been trying to learn.
This is the best Tesla videos I’ve seen 10/10. Question.. if you could do it again would you still replace the bummer with the model y? Im in a similar situation
Thank you! Honest question with the knowledge I have now, yes only because the resell value on that tesla after two years of use is 70k, considering it was a 53k car thats a big come up XD
The sweet spot (bearing in mind ride stiffness ) is the model Y LR … BUT WITH the $2000 performance boost.
This gives 0-60 in 4.2S … which sounds perfect for all round fun.
There is no alternative purchase … Nothing matches the MY
It def is the sweet spot pricewise, In an ideal world we would have gotten the model X which would remedy some of the dislikes I have for this car but that's just far outside the budget 😅Im hoping the next gen Y has a bunch of improvements most desired? an instrument cluster
tho I think my next personal car is going to be a Model 3 performance while we get something bigger for the family
Yep, I plan on adding that after a few months of ownership. I read it boosts hp from 375 to 425.
Could you please tell some of the other options for EVs which are better than Tesla Model Y?
Your TESLA hoodie gives away your true conclusion 😅
;) you figured me out! im a secret fanboi
the recc to charge to only 80-90% is not to get the full range (wonder what he was thinking when he said that lol)
it's to preserve long term battery health. If going on a road trip, sometimes charging to 100% is needed.
Also short range doesn't mean extra electricity, it's just proportional to your miles driven. And even if using supercharging all the time, it's still cheaper per mile than gas. Cost per mile is the key metric.
The shocks seem to be a common point of concern. Hope Tesla hears that and fixes it.
Thanks for a great review. It’s a nice break from the evangelistic reviews that predominate. Also, thanks for comparing this to a comparably priced vehicle. I’ve ridden in a few friends’ Teslas. It definitely doesn’t seem like a luxury experience. That’s especially true in the winter, when you can’t use the heater for anything besides short trips around town.
Thanks for the hands on info. As much as I want to help the planet, I'm waiting (not driving much) for the EV tech to mature a bit more.
Yes! thats my thought exactly, they need like 4-5 more years to make it right, I think we'll get their, but I dont know if Tesla will be leading that charge in a few years
the next 1-2 years are going to be interesting in the EV market. the upcoming EVs like GV60, GV70, Lexus RZ, Lyriq, Fisker Ocean, Rivian R1S are going to set the new standards in the EV market. if at least 1 or 2 of them can stand, Tesla's monopolistic days are over.
Oh another thing that I see you didn't mention is when you got passengers it also drain the juice/range a lot also. If your cabin is full of people you will loose around 50 range.
Really good points!
When I got my 2018 Model 3, the voice commands were one of those promises that hadn't bear any fruit at the time. It was worse than useless... at the time. Also, the autopilot actually felt dangerous. The regular updates had transformed the car over a period of time. And, while it's the same car from 2018, it is night and day different with what I have now. The voice commands work like my Android and I've never felt safer.
That being said, people need to take a hard look at what they want because, if nothing else, Tesla has changed the paradigm as to how people should be looking at cars now. Much like Apple had changed how people utilize their phones. And you can see other manufacturers picking up the ball. It's a good time to switch to an EV. Tesla or not.
Tesla hate, though, is something I don't think I'd ever really understand unless I wanted to dig into the mind of an idiot.
I think you make some solid points about the frustrations of range not being as advertised. Honestly, I haven't seen an electric car that has ever been close to what is advertised, but I will say the model Y's range is suitable for probably 99% of the population. I live in Arizona and am on an EV electric plan that allows me to pay .06 cents per KW to charge this thing over night. Which has resulted in my electric bill only increasing by a few dollars every month. I do think in a perfect world. 450 miles of range would be ideal to combat all the variables that lead to not getting those EPA estimates. I don't like the small window out the back too, but the technology and safety features of the car are incredible and make up for the lack of visibility. Also, I purchased a sunroof to cover the pano roof during the summer months, and that is a feature I still love about the car. I will add that I think everyone should tint their vehicle the moment they get it to help cut down on the greenhouse effect. Lately, I love your critique about the nuances of doing simple task like opening the glove box or adjusting the A/C. These thing are way more complicated than they need to be, and I really hope in the future they can go back to using manual processes. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
Wow! Nicely done…..after totaling my prius…..i wanted an ev…..i wasnt sure i would like one, so i chose a cheap one to whet my appetite. I bought a little fiat 500e. The car has been fun to drive, however…..my range is much, much less!! I live in south miami…….i have run out of juice just driving to the edge of city! I wish i had a lot more range.. but this was an experiment. I can hardly believe that i have now driven this car for over 4 years with few incidents…. I have to plan my trips carefully. I work for an airline….so there were no road trips…..i just used it basically for little short trips & to work. I have saved a ton of money. I have bought no gas for 4 years! I have had little maintenances except for tires….and for this little car, they were quite cheap! .. i have been learning a lot about teslas over this time……i understand that driving habits and using a/c, heat, etc can affect your range…..however, using the heated seats has no bearing…..when it does get a bit cold….i simply turn on the heated seat & keep my range. I’m sure this car has little suspension….but i tend to buy smaller cars…..( just a preference). I have my order for my LR MY and it is slated for a june delivery. I plan to have all windows tinted as the so fla sun can really heat ! If that doesnt work, i think they have some type of covers…… I’m also getting as much PPF as i can afford…my only thing i would hate would probably be that i love listening to satellite radio.. so i will just have to use my phone. This will probably be the biggest car i have ever owned….& my first SUV>. But i think i will live…,i hope the quality is better…….i guess I’ll have to wait & see on that one….. you threw a lot of hate at your car…..& yet you wear a TESLA hoodie! Lol! I do understand…….i hope that i can deal with these problems !! Right now there are a lot of EV’s coming and many are less expensive…..that Fisker looks awfully good! I’m in it for the long run……i like that Tesla has a network of chargers where i simply won’t have to worry…..and the future just looks better…..since they have been in the game for much longer than most…… i hope your car experiences get better! Good luck!!
Hey thanks for sharing your experience, I didn't even know the 500e was an EV shows how little I know about them 😅I do think the Tesla network is the best EV charging network out there. but with them opening up the standard to other manufactures I think it will greatly open the possibilitiess in the future. Good luck with your next EV purchase, my wife and I are already shopping for the next one and its gonna be difficultt
so, my TM3 perf 2023 is kickass!
given i live in the desert - 180 degrees in the summer - my battery does GREAT!
Used to own a 2017 ioniq - 55 MPG - This tesla is STILL 60% cheaper, cuz I only charge at home - .15 per kwh -
Beats my old GAS car and I always wave when i pass EVERY gas station and/or when i stop to clean my HUGE windows!
Post Script: Way too petty, Fran - remember, less is always MORE - in my op.
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Great video- clear and concise. There is a lot of just plain hyping (or trashing) going on YT, and it’s great to have an objective view.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
I am a huge fan of Tesla the company, but you explained why I won't be buying a Tesla anytime soon. It is just horribly inconvenient. Also, I am not interested in harsh driving suspension. Still, I think Tesla in 10 years will change all of this when they have actual competition. Still thank you to Tesla for creating this industry and saving the planet,
The suspension is geared towards giving superior handling. I like that driving on interstate highways with the a sport utility under control and flat on curves and superior steering.
If you think EVs are saving the planet then you are wrong. Do a bit of more research
@@AvinashSingh-jv7uq Grid storage will save the planet and Tesla is one of the largest players in that space. Apparently you are the one that doesn't do any research.
Good points on the negative side - small rear window, hot glass roof, real-world range and a few more. I like the minimalistic interior design, however, as it is less distracting and less cluttered compared to a knobs-and-buttons design. I don't check my speed much at all with maybe a glance infrequently. In my ICE car I look at the instrument cluster and think: 'what do I care what RPM I'm hitting?' and do I really need to see the water temperature all the time? The Cruise Control settings like following distance? Meh! In the Tesla there are no gear selections so that's just like an automatic transmission. I do like the voice commands but one problem is if you want to turn the radio volume down while talking to your partner, you have to interrupt that to have a little conversation with Siri or whomever! As for the UI change with V11, I never drove the earlier version UI so it's no disruption at all for me but I do understand it's a bit jarring for many. Probably boils down to personal preferences from what you are used to driving and what you like to do with a car such as down-shifting for power, etc. Thanks for the rundown - well done.
thank you, great video, you are the first one to address the issue of a touch screen as a distraction during driving, I also was thinking about it. Agree with you that a big glass on top is a good thing in a warm climate and I am in Florida. I do not own Tesla now and started to have second thoughts about ordering model Y, thank you again, great video
You took the words out of my mouth. You nailed it. It's a love/hate relationship for me. On second day of ownership, the rear motor went out. Four weeks later I got it back.
After having it back for 3 weeks the heater went out . Temperatures here in SW Ohio 10s - 40s. Most relevant though is the amount of power used - I too felt lied to about the "range". I too, used much more energy for a short trip than I thought I would. I'm considering selling it.
oh wow, sounds like you've bead a bit of a nightmare car, and i'm sorry to hear that. Its def a great car but Tesla has a long way to go when it comes to QC. Opening the supercharger network is def going to breed some competition that will hopefully make them fix what's wrong in the supply chain and design.
THanks for the comment!
I was about to drop a vid solely on the whole range thing and am considering selling my 21 MY lr. The range is absurd to say the least. I felt lied to and just pretty mush pay for it but drive my 2001 Lexus rx300 instead bc of the range thing (I drive too much)
I agree with you. Big problem with EV is range , for the long trip . Still a huge problem, and also what about battery after the warranty expires ?
Well all EV vehicles have this range problem. Myself being retired, I use my EV for around town driving and short single charge trips. I charge my EV at home all the time. It is an ideal vehicle for me.
There is no difference between looking at a conventional cluster and the tablet. Either way your eyes leave the road. I don't understand this point at all. But your point on rear visibility is right on. As far as the minimalistic interior, nobody should complain because everybody that buys one knows about it.
False.... When the cluster is directly in front of you, you look at it less. Mainly because it's always within your field of view. The Tesla's setup forces you to turn your head as you drive, meaning you are more likely to get distracted. Doesn't help when everything is buried in menus.
@@GetToThePointAlready I guess you haven't learned to move your eyes independent of your head.
Just use your voice controls. Get a sun shade for summer.
Love the review! However, you mentioned that you reside in the northeast. I too am a northeast resident and considering a model y. How is the vehicle in the snow? With the 20” wheels?
Came back swinging. Glad to see you back, homie.
Thanks brother, thanks for passing by, good to see you doing your thing still as well.
You’re are 1000 percent right, especially regarding the range not being accurate at all, I just got mine, and find myself charging it several times a week and I’m driving no more then 3-4 miles 3 times a week. They need to update the battery life. It’s not much range at all. I’m from the North East as well, surrounded by high rises, our supercharges are in parking garages so you have to pay just to enter the garage on top of the charging fee. A bit misleading. I live in a high rise that doesn’t have EV charges capability, so I need to charge it in a random parking garage. Appreciate the technology aspect but the range is misleading which discourages me from adding the engine booster since it will drain the battery faster.
I think you might want to get that checked out because your Tesla should not need to be charged several times a week if you only drive 4 miles ! That doesn’t sound good!
Great honest review, appreciate the insights.
Thanks for watching! glad it was helpful!
Everything you said is true, especially the range, the car is too heavy for it’s battery. It’s basically a cheap SUV on the platform of the model 3 they made in a rush.
Not really my experience
Glad to hear something other than fanboy opinions and those justifying an expensive purchase. I’ve been eyeballing these for a while and although I plan to take zero road-trips in it some of those negatives hit too close to home. Good video.
Glad I could help! and yes I felt the same, before I got mine I saw videos only highlighting positives no one would cover the negatives so I was super shocked when I experienced them for myself.
It truly is. It's a car and it has pros and cons. Yhis is an objective review. I feel a lot of the Tesla owners aren't fanboys.
Competition will make all EVs better. Overall, I think they're the best solution for cars although if hydrogen fuel cells ever mature they may make for a good solution (though it doesn't seem cars are their best application). Each one has its pros and cons, including Tesla. Hopefully, Tesla will improve not only the software but aspects of the the design and hardware when their popular 3 and Ys are updated. But that may not happen for some time.
Franklin - the AC system is now AUTOMATIC, after a Software update.
ok
Your comments on range didn't seem to match the specs for a new Tesla Y nor my own experience. A new Tesla Model Y LR gets 330 miles of range EPA. Tesla increased the battery size in the Y a few months ago and drivers actually get close to the rated range in good weather. Of course cold weather reduces this but with the new heat pump and octovalve this is now also minimized. Also, if you need to keep warm for a prolonged period sitting n cold weather a Tesla has camp mode that you can engage to keep everyone warm with minimal energy usage and no fumes to inhale. I have a new Model Y and absolutely love it. Another thing people need to consider when comparing a gas car with say 400 miles of range to a Tesla Y with 330 miles of range is that if you charge your Tesla every night to 90% (295-300 miles) thats more than enough for daily driving even for a long commute. One way to think of it is that not only on average will your Tesla have 300 miles in the battery in the morning, in fact it will never deviate from this range every single morning. That's an amazing feeling. By contrast your 400 mile BMW ICE car one morning may have 375 miles but other mornings will inevitably have 120 miles or 60 miles. In other words so there's no avoiding having to drive to the gas station and sometimes, as we all know, when we least want to on the way to an appointment. So I would take the Tesla scenario every day of the week all year long. So in my view having a Tesla Model Y is just a better experience. Your concerns here are more valid if you can't plug in at night but for people who can, it really is a great experience. I'm never going back to ICE for this reason and for many others.
I am in the market for a new SUV and Tesla was one of my options. I test drove the Model Y and have to say that like everyone, I love the speed and acceleration. But that is where it ends. When you are on the road, there is very little you can adjust due to the lack of buttons. The exterior looks nice from afar, but once you come in close, everything looks cheap. The interior was even worse. Everything on the inside looked like they used extremely cheap quality materials and were cheaply put together. One TH-camr said it best, you paid for a Mercedes but it feel and looks like a Kia.
I'm in the process just now looking at videos all about EV's because I want one. Your video was great. As far as the glass roof goes IF I got the model Y the first thing I'd do would be to take it to a tint shop. Another thing I've heard talked about are noises (squeaks and rattles), fit and finish and generally lower quality materials that what you might get from other manufactures. Last but not least has to do with the lack of instrument cluster and the smallish text one the video screen (I wear "reading glasses" so I can read text) and it would be very uncomfortable having to put 0n and take off while trying to access functions.I think ALL manufactures over state the range though. As far as 0-60 times when do you actually NEED to go 0-60 in under 4 seconds the Plaid 0-60 under 2 seconds I'd rather have more range and sacrifice lightning fast acceleration. My Alltrack 170hp is plenty fast enough 0-60 around 7 seconds more than enough for "normal driving.
Thanks for your honest insights
My pleasure!
Franklin - next time when filming inside a car , use a portable Video light to gently illuminate your face, makes for a better video.
This is a good review, but it should be noted that the range data for these cars is determined by the EPA - not by Tesla or other manufacturers. As with the MPG ratings for ICE vehicles, these estimates should be understood as the best possible results under ideal conditions - not generally what we can expect in our own experience.
useful review, probably the most instructive, thank you!
really appreciate this
Thank you for the advice...I've really been considering this. I still love it though lol mine should come in a few months!
Hope you enjoy it! its still a great car, but as long as you are aware of its flaws it makes ownership that much easier.
LOL, You feel your range sucks?....I've got a model Y SR unicorn which had a rated range of 244mi. and of course would be lucky to get 200!
I agree expand the battery range, etc maybe Tesla would make adjustments
The reality of Teslas is that they're realistically $30K cars with a lot of expensive battery technology that drives them up to $60K+. They throw in a bunch of cheap tech frills to try to excite people about Teslas, but that's all they are, cheap tricks that lose their wow factor a few months after ownership. If you're okay with that, then Teslas are for you. I personally demand a higher quality out of what I pay for. I'll never fully appreciate the expensive batteries in my car, so I want to appreciate a high build quality instead. Teslas are not for me. Thanks for sharing this video!
LOL distraction are in every car. To change the speed of the fan on my Everest, I have look way down on the center instrument cluster and push on of the many buttons that look the same at a glance. My gas cars don’t get the advertised range of either the gas car or the diesel SUV.
You compare apples to oranges most of the time
I have a model 3. There is no gear to look down to. And as far as looking at your speed. Even in a "normal " car I never moved my head to look down. My eyes can glance.
The best and most honest review I've heard to date. Thanks
Tesla plays the minimalist game, but in actuality . hardwired controls are removed to make these vehicles cheaper to make , not easier to use, the complexity of going through screens makes this vehicles unsafe in my eyes, so windows fog up and I have to go through an Ipad screen to clear my windows, this is a safety issue.
Is it easier to look at the sky with black seats as compared to the white seats because of more light reflected by white?
I wish Tesla used a HUD
a HUD would be Epic my BMW had one, best feature ever
@@FranklinReid_ same here
Thank you for a very honest video. I agree with you that some of the features that are "gimmicky" just so that Tesla can tout their difference from other cars, unfortunately, those are not usability or ergonomic improvement and in fact annoyance if not safety concerns. The other are poorly designed and glitchy features/functions like phantom braking, rolling stops, poor rear visibility, over reliance on software superiority over human control, and over reliance on the main screen to control the simplest things. But the thing that bother me the most is the shoddy quality like fit and finish, cheap plastic and materials for $60K-$125K cars and the fact that it's been 7+ years and Tesla still send shoddy final products to their customers. I mean, what other cars do customers have to do finger testing on the gaps of car panels when they take delivery of their car, what other cars do fellow customer recommend immediate paint coat proofing or coating to protect leather seats from staining, etc. For all of the geniuses and tech wizards and brilliant engineers Tesla have, why don't they have those people work on the quality stuff, it's been 7+ years now and we still see the same problem. I don't see customers do that to $18K subcompact cars and we have Tesla customers thinking these things are the norm? Don't get me wrong, I would be the first person to giving a standing ovation for Tesla's innovation and pushing other car mfrs to offer more EVs but the quality and questionable designs do not belong to cars of this price range. I know the reality is that wealthy people can buy whatever they want and they can live with the final product but since when do luxury products have such deficiencies, be it cars, clothes & shoes, watches, etc?
When you considered buying the Model Y, did you consider getting the BMW iX3, since you already owned an X3?
I agree with you for everything you mentioned in ur video, I live in the north east , my 2022 y doesn’t match my Previous RX 450h. But I always thought , that it’ll take some time getting used to it. The best advice I got from someone to avoid the panic of running out of range is to keep my old car , I don’t drive much in the snow ,but when I do my mom comes along and I have to keep the car on for warmth. Sadly I have to wait for good weather to be able to explore it more.
It has been 2 months and I only have 200 miles on it.
Do you think I should charge it every day or if it’s at 80% not hook it up? That’s my biggest question and I got different messages from u tube videos?
Glad you got a chance to check out the video, if your not driving it not need to hook it up, you'll notice the battery drain a bit but that's ok. THe range anxiety wears off after a while, I had both cars before the lease on my BMW ran out and it helped with that but once I gave it back as long as I wasnt traveling too far I felt ok, also the super charging network is super strong and you can always find a charging station at least here in the tristate area [NY/NJ/CT] hope this helps, and congratulations in the acquisition
I have a RX 350 and thinking of trading it in for the Y as well. Do you regret the decision or was it the best decision you have made? I am also in the NY area and have tons of superchargers actually 3 within 1/2 mile from where I live.. would you buy this again over the Lexus?
@@happyhippo1710
Hi , no I don’t regret my decision after I got comfortable with my y( especially with gas prices now)
But also , I only have 600 miles on it since end of December .
Keeping the Lexus gave me a piece of mind.
Good luck 😊
I test drove a 2022 Model Y and the Hyundai Ioniq 5 this week. I totally agree and am having a very tough time deciding which to go with. The driver experience, features, ride quality, etc is much better on the Hyunadi. It also has 800v fast charging which will charge faster than the MY. The downside is less storage space, much lower towing capacity, I don't like the outside looks as much on the Hyundai, and I don't know what resale value would be like in the future.
Tesla with the new Korean EV's def has some serious competition, for anyone who doesn't care about the super techie features of the Tesla, they would be hard pressed to get it over the Hyunadi Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, or soon to be launched Genesis GV60.
We have both vechicle and TRUST me you be happier w the Tesla. My wife and I always take the Tesla when we are together. Only thing is the warranty and ride is better in Hyundai but that is it all other things are better w Tesla. Service of Hyundai is awful absolutely horrible. It takes several months min. to get anything fixed.
@@yunque30gmail Thanks for the feedback, how long have you had the Ioniq 5? What do you like about the Tesla more overall? Greatly appreciate your response and input, it's hard to find people who own both.
I'm gonna agree with Ken, at least for now, the main thing you get with tesla is that supercharger network, its unparalleled at this time, and charging america stations are often broken and much slower to charge. as sad as it is, unless you have two vehicles id stick with Tesla as the EV choice until chargers get faster and networks get stronger or they bring 3rd parties to the tesla network here in america
This is why I will continue to wait. Perhaps check out the BMW IX
How many miles do you drive a day most of time?
Good info about UI, moonlight roof etc. Thank you! But the range complaints barely have anything to do with this car since Model Y has one of the best range in this price range. So you're comparing apples to oranges here.
Good point!
I cross-shopped a Tesla Model 3 and BMW 340i for a couple years. It was a tough decision for me, but I ended up going with the BMW recently. Cost was very similar, but that cost seemed to be more justified in the BMW. Do you prefer your BMW or the Y?
I 100% prefer my BMW over the Tesla Model Y at least, if we had an X or an S which is higher quality im not sure if that would change my opinion at all. As of right now if we did get a 2nd ICE car it would absolutely be an X3 or X5 though I can tell you that much. Im also interested to check out BMW and Audi's EV's they seem to be the best of both worlds im just afraid of the charging america network. id really rather wait for other manufactures to start using teslas super charger network.
Franklin - the Tesla minimalist interior serves a Purpose. reducing Distractions. most Everything can be voice commands, Tesla command actually works and is Better than many OEM's. the main screen can now be customized with Quick buttons of frequent used controls. and the Tesla can also recognize Multiple users, and set your preference. so you don't have to change settings when you change cars or Drivers.
in you Prefer a center Drivers display, there are MANY aftermarket solutions, like HUD and LCD display.
ELON is readying us for a day when your car has no Mirrors, Pedals, control stalks, or a Steering wheel.
and that day is FAST approaching.
Leased, financed or owned I don't do aftermarket mods to my cars in any situation. Level 5 autonomous driving is very far away, and tesla will never reach that stage with their cars in their current form, not enough sensors.
@@FranklinReid_ - FALSE, over 60,000+ active FSD beta users in 2022, improving all the time. even w/o dojo.
@ Mark Plott - "reducing Distractions" so that's why drivers need to glance away from the front to do things, and of course watch Netflix and play games, not to mention promise of the car will drive automatically while you do other things. Sounds like fanboy making excuses.
@@markplott4820 I can't use my Basic Cruise control in my MYP on my 7 mile commute. Too many phantom and hard brakes. I keep trying to use it, but it gets scared with curves and oncoming traffic. Generally slows me down 20-30 mph before it figures out nothing was wrong in the first place. Autopilot is worse. I basically have a 60k vehicle with no cruise control. I don't see lvl 5 happening anytime soon.
@@beefuzzy310 - then YOU haven't probably Updated your Tesla in awhile. and your Drivers score is Probably too LOW.
Thank you for the review. The negatives you share have been verified by other reviewers during their reviews. Having a comfortable nicely appointed vehicle is important to me. Also, I strongly dislike the feeling of being at the mercy of the user interface and the whims of software developers. Being a little older and more of a traditionalist, I is like the idea of not having traditional dashboard controls for standard features as well as being distracted by the constant use of the “Tesla Tablet”. So many accidents are caused by distractive driving and to me, this just exacerbates the situation. I pass!! Thanks again.🙂
I'm used to quickly using my Tesla interface, so it's not distracting. Most settings are adjusted by me to my preferences so I rarely need to use them. Plenty of AUTO settings work well. I was somewhat intimidated with the interface initially but prefer it now. Various cameras are good. I like Tesla free automatic updates, sentry and dash cam, The Nav is very good and is conveniently synced with trip planer for easy charging on road trips.