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- In rural Kyrgyzstan men still marry their women the old-fashioned way: by abducting them off the street and forcing them to be their wife. Bride kidnapping is a supposedly ancient custom that's made a major comeback since the fall of Communism and now accounts for nearly half of all marriages in some parts. We traveled to the Kyrgyz countryside to follow a young groom named Kubanti as he surprised his teenage girlfriend Nazgul with the gift of marriage/kidnapping.
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Sounds interesting! I'd also enjoy seeing a followup to this particular documentary, finding the couple married in this show, and seeing what their thoughts are now on bride kidnapping -- it's been over a decade since this documentary first aired.
Wtf!!!!! This’s straight up lies!!! I’m from Saudi Arabia there’s 0% of SA in our schools bcuz IT’S NOT MIXED we only have all girls or all boys school
This’s shocking how u ppl would shamelessly accuse islam of the things that happens routinely in ur non muslim countries in my muslim country it’s a CRIM to even cat call women even asking for a woman’s number is considered illegal us muslim women feel the safest in our countries unlike the women in western and non muslim countries the statistics of sexual assault are over the roof yet u have the audacity to make these videos against islam i mean we know it’s a propaganda but unfortunately many ignorants believe it
In Islam does not has such kind of kidnapping bro please do not belong your wrong opinion without adequate evidence!
Imagine youre a tourist and suddenly you become a strangers wife
Beast Sw 😆
🤣
This happens to dudes? I get this a lot but I'm pretty.
This actually happened to two female tourists a few years back, they got their national embassy involved and were able to return home after about a week.
No. They kiddnapp only women they know. Not strangers. Cmon a little bit of common sens. A tradition is something that belong to them and they societies. So they know each other and the plan everything.... well there is a foreigner in the town who look extact like the bride to be... Ouch! Bad for her
How sweet, giving your wife PTSD and a lifelong fear of men right before the wedding
Frr
ayee 666th like
*cums*
That kind of relationship is Very Haram ... what is he going to say to GoD in the day of judgment ??? This Haram tradition must be stopped .
@@oussamabekk1108 Quran 4:19 "O believers! It is not permissible for you to inherit women against their will"
There is no suck thing as PTSD in south 😂, it is what it is. It tranformation of tradition
The girl being kidnapped and then 3 men holding her, her yelling mom. My heart broke, I felt so helpless like how she was feeling at that moment. Almost cried.
no one's gonna talk about her "friend"? she knew her friend's dream to finish school and become a lawyer yet she lured her into that marriage. And please, the way the grooms men was touching the bride to keep her from moving.
fr.so traumatizing and jaw dropping
Just horrible
This was just horrible
They said they would allow the bride to continue their education…
@@KaiserTwo Yes they allow it 🙏🙏thank god!! A woman must be allowed...
"Girls will be happy if they get married crying"
What utter disgust
Seems they can't tell the difference between tears of sorrow & joy.
Right, wrong kinda cryin bruh 🤦🏼♀️
i know rigtht that jiust disgust me
Naziur Honestly, like wtf.
Exactly
it's even scarier when you realize that someone could actually be kidnapping a girl in plain sight with no intention of marrying her and people would just think that it's the tradition.
thats what I WAS THINKING like omg how do you differentiate between a wedding tradition and a possible gangrape???
I mean I would also consider this actually kidnapping a girl but true
Probably kidnapping with no intention of marrying is against the law
Yeah no, that's the thing! It might be difficult to tell whether someone is actually being kidnapped or not
Does without the marrying part make much of a difference? You mean without her consent right?
i cried with the mom whose daughter committed suicide. i want to give her a hug, what a horrible loss
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
The mother allowed it to happen though. She allowed the man to kidnap her
@@paulinadrygulska1947 sad
@@paulinadrygulska1947 yeah, I can only feel so bad, when she's culpable in her own daughter's death. what kind of a parent would let their kid go through something like that.
@@paulinadrygulska1947 No she didn't allowed the kidnapping. It is stated in the video that they event took their daughter on the next day, however their cousins pressured them saying that it is not right to take the bride and because of the pressure they give in and blessed the marriage. It is just sad that tradition is above their religion and law.
I live in Kyrgyzstan and I am glad that now this is punishable by law. And let me clarify this was not a tradition among the Kyrgyz, this was done by those men who did not have property for the ransom of the bride. And usually they married according to tradition: first they saw the bride out of her house by future relatives and did not steal
Whoa, a ransom or a dowry?
@@icantpursuewhatimtrulypass7335I myself live in Kyrgyzstan, and this is called a dowry, there was a ransom before
“But if the men don’t kidnap, they might never get married”. If the only way for a man to get married is for him to kidnap someone, then that’s a sign that he shouldn’t get married.
Underrated comment
You are stupid.
They are doing what Nature do.
Like eating meat is natural sex is.
@@Sahilbc-wj8qk what wait i dont understand. Can u elaborate
I wanna go there and try this on a girl
@@lloritoshaneerinmitchells.8657 they’re using the logical fallacy that “the natural way is the right way”
Poor girl just wanted to enjoy her youth while she could. You can't tell me that "momma" wasn't heartbreaking seriously
EA7 it wasn’t you think she had no more fight in her?? Lmao everyone gets married like this there I call it crocodile 🐊 😭
@@vegasfinest702 Righttttt....because "everyone gets married like this there" means that every single woman there should accept and be happy with the fact that they're being kidnapped..
I bet you would want to live there and be kidnapped too, don't you?
Momma was on it too. 😢 Evil
12:43 ?
3lizA B33F 30,000 each year from video I saw
Every single woman in this video is a victim. Generational trauma is very real, this is a culture that has endured tradition with such commitment that every bright young light inside these girls is snubbed out by it. My heart bleeds for them
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
I am Kyrgyz, but this tradition does not exist now. now someone touches a girl and they'll go to jail
@@black-xu8dethat is great to hear, what changed in the last few years to make this happen?
@@black-xu8de have any kidnapped bride unalived the groom and his whole family by poisoning them for destroying her life? and don't tell me this bullshit tradition does not exist now when this video is just from few years ago
@@black-xu8deWhat laws were implemented in order for this to change?
Her friend pretending to fight back as if she wasn’t agreeing and literally helped her get kidnapped
No one gonna talk about the bride's friend setting her up like that....
No
BBS Gaming I got you,
FUCK THAT BITCH
Completely agree - fuck that bitch
The betrayal
Unless somebody here is from that culture, nobody can really talk about it. You can't speak about things unless you are versed in them. Otherwise you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I can only speak about it from an American perspective, and an American perspective on a Kyrgyzstan tradition is irrelevant
These are the moments you feel grateful for growing in the place you did
I’m eating your profile picture right now
I don’t know, dead goat polo seems fun.
Yeah but people still have the blatant idiocy to cry about all the "oppression" in the west. It's ridiculous.
P e r s e p h o n e . A n n I-
Why do you have to be grateful? It's obviously supposed to be equal. You don't be grateful when someone do just what they have to do.
CRIME IN THE DISGUISE OF TRADITION IS STILL A CRIME. I REPEAT, CRIME IN DISGUISE OF TRADITION IS STILL A CRIME. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣
🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯🥰🔥💯💯🙏🙏
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
Absolutely
it's "traditional crime" then....
It was heartbreaking to see the girl be forced in a veil and begging to be let go off. The fact that she had a girlfriend and they still wouldn’t let her go and even said “you don’t” is horrible.
W rizz?
💀@@Wake-up90
Kidnapper rizz
😳
What?
"soooo how did you two meet"
"at knifepoint"
Playa Unknown "at gunpoint"
"At McDonald's"
Lol
LOL WTF my comment got 1.9k likes hahaha thats a first.
😝
Welcome to Kyrgyzstan where the countries motto is "No means Yes"
Quagmire must be their greatest deity.
lol.
lol
😳
"No means Yes. Yes means Anal!" - Yale Students
I swear, just google it
I feel so sad for these girls, they cant even walk the streets without having constant anxiety about being snatched.
This video was taken 11years ago so possible this traditions has been rare to happen nowadays.
@@roronoa_kenshin I meant then not now
@@roronoa_kenshin You have no proof
She was absolutely terrified. She didn't consent. I am honestly terrified just watching this as a woman.
"You saw me once and wanted to kidnap me." Imagine saying that nonchalantly to your significant other.
I think he meant he wanted to rape her, but he decided to be polite for the cameras.
@@condeuiosandilixtos7858 No its about Kidnapping, raping he would get huge Problems wit other family, but kidnapping they tolerate becouse of virgin stupednes. Not that they dont rape every girl they can get without to much trouble afterwords. they have absolutly no feelings and empathy, completly cruel.
Just horrible.
That poor mother sharing her daughters suicide story. How awful.
i actually ended up showing middle finger at phone screen when she cried...
she totally listened to society when she should've stood by her side specially when the child said that the man was not a good person.
but she chose to go with the society. i so much would've wanted to punch her face if she was doing that drama near me.
She got kidnapped, then they found her, AND THEN SHE GAVE HER BACK WILLINGLY. to be raped and held hostage. Then you know he just kidnapped another bride.. Disgusting. Maybe she should have thought twice as a mother doing that to her baby girl.... That poor fucking girl. I feel bad for HER, not the mother that fucking GAVE HER TO HIM.
@@phaokemshanglonghu3965 What do you expect to happen when, as was stated in the video, a society works so hard to make girls obedient from the moment they can probably communicate. Peer pressure, cultural pressure, are things that have effected all people at some point to some degree, unfortunatelythe ramifications can be severe and devastating.
How hypocritical and ignorant of you to imbue yourself with so much superiority when you'd stoop so low as to kick someone while they're down. She's going to feel guilty for the rest of her life, no keyboard-coward has the right to pretend to be more upset about something she actually *has* to survive.
The Little Blerdmaid I bet you she wasn’t crying when they took her, a mother should always be protecting her kids at all costs no matter what culture or religion bs you deal with. She let them take her away knowing she didn’t want to, she failed as a parent in my opinion.
You’re wrong. In my country they also used to kidnap brides but nowadays they do it less because they pay a fine for that now, which most of them can not afford, although some pay it willingly. Anyways, you’re wrong about what you said about her mother, she probably didn’t think it was necessary or good for her daughter when they gave her back to the kidnapper. She says in the video, the cousins etc put pressure on them, telling the « it’s tradition ! You’re wrong you shouldn’t take her back ! ». She didn’t develop it but as it was also in my country’s tradition to kidnap brides I can tell you for sure that she didn’t want to give her daughter back but couldn’t do otherwise because she’s a woman and she has to OBEY. So when the male cousins / older men in the family got angry about them bringing their daughter back, when they scolded the girl’s dad for doing so, when they brought up « it’s tradition! » the girl’s dad probably felt ashamed in front of the elder men (cousins, uncles..) and in those societies you HAVE TO respect older men and DO what they tell you to do, the dad probably decided to give the girl back to the kidnaper and the mom couldn’t do anything about it but accept it because SHE IS A WOMAN and she CAN NOT argue with her husband and other men in the family. If she talks back or disobeys she can be beaten or anyways, the men can just bring the girl back to the kidnaper’s house forcefully even if the mother is against. Anyways, I can guarantee you that this mom wasn’t happy about giving her daughter back autherwise they wouldn’t have even brought her home in first place. She just had to accept it because she’s a woman and she can not do anything because men decide and she has to obey. No one can understand her sorrow except those who went through the same thing. That thing happened to my aunt, she was kidnapped and run away but her uncle forced her to get married to her kidnapper whom she didn’t even knew.
That is WILDDDD. Can you imagine you're just going to get some milk and bread and someone just kidnaps you and takes you to their family and tries to marry you in your errand running clothes? I cannot believe this is a real tradition.
This is how ancient horsemen married in turkic-Mongol culture. It's awful yes. No wonder why they followed Islam.
do you know it took them so long to convert to islam? like the 17th century. and krygz people barely practice islam cus of the soviet suppression of religion. @@phoenixj1299
@@phoenixj1299 Tell me you only know Islam from the news without telling me you only know Islam from the news:
@@THEdeflatedballoon The fact that you are a Muslim is a proof that you don't know Islam.
Kyrgyzstan has changed a lot in 2015 after a big scandal. The police stopped ignoring these crimes and imprisoning people. Both on TV and at school they began to tell people that this was a bad custom and to make films about it.
I love how awkward the interviewer is. Mans is just vibing while he’s witnessing a crime I mean tradition I mean crime.
epic
Nah i think you mean tradition
@@ahmeddyasalkhwarizmi8783 crime sis
Where u are maybe it’s a crime but to them it’s tradition.
@Number wa an A tradition that no woman wants to follow, as seen in some of these cases, if they don't believe in these traditions than why would she follow it? Is thet hard to understand? or are you stupid
“Cultural Acceptance doesn’t mean accepting the unacceptable”- Jasvinder Sanghera
Found the Islamophobe.
if someone would come to kidnap my sis ,daughter i would have stabbed him even if i was a part of the culture
But who decides what is unacceptable?
prashant kalli from the UN International Human Rights Laws
“Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, regardless of race, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, or any other status. Human rights include the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom of opinion and expression, the right to work and education, and many more. Everyone is entitled to these rights, without discrimination.”
@@mjverostek1278 What aspect of Islam includes kidnapping women?
“If she says yes everybody will think she is desperate to get married!” 💀
That crazy 😂😂
based
my jaw dropped my saw that
It's downright scary and sickening just how little empathy these guys have
you know what? my life aint that bad after all.
@Cj Amen
@Cj a men has kidnapped my daughter
lol
@NatalieListensToMusic K no
@NatalieListensToMusic K amen has fallen into river in lego city
I'm from Kyrgyzstan. I am Kyrgyz. This is a very wild tradition that is disappearing because girls and women no longer want to tolerate it in our country! And I'm glad of that. They also tried to steal me, but I fought with everyone and still left. I am confident that this cruel tradition will soon disappear.
I'm so happy you fought and resisted pls don't forget that it's not part of Islam itself only a toxic tradition
Much love from a Muslim South African💞
Thank god you made it. Hope you can live a happy life after this.
Greetings from Malaysia
U must reserve the tradition.. It is very sweet and unique
@@firelord1202 No, this tradition is disgusting.
👏👏😇😇
It’s heartbreaking when people try and defend “tradition” even when it’s dangerous, disgusting, and harmful. Unfortunately it’s always women and children who are victims of such “traditions”.
Actually it's usually women and children who gets special treatment, while the men die. The one tradition where women gets the downside, some girl is instantly on the comment like "Unfortunately it’s always women and children who are victims" 🤣🤣🤣 That's hilarious
You're the reason, the west is failing, eventhough we should be in a gold age right now. Your generation will truly be know as the ones who got everything handed to them, nothing else.
I am Kyrgyz, but this tradition does not exist now. now someone touches a girl and they'll go to jail
@@black-xu8de AlhamduliLah , that's a GooD thing , That kind of tradition is very Haram Brother.
@@black-xu8deNice
The photographer who captured the iconic image of the emaciated child next to a vulture killed himself. I don't know how you can casually watch rape and systemic abuse from a distance without feeling similar levels of guilt and pain.
'Your a girl, all girls get married.' imagine being kidnapped by a bunch of men, all your family watching and laughing, being held down in a car, and being told that. Jesus.
Random User I hated that to, like wtf
Good thing i am man...jesus i cant believe this tradition exist
Honestly I’d rather die at that point
@@aher1560 They're drinking and pushing people to drink. They don't know about Islam as it seems, or they don't care
@@aher1560 your religion was created by wife beating, pedophile, coward. Anyone who supports Islam and doesn't support this is a hypocrite
nobody’s talkin bout the old lady she lost her daughter to a terrible tradition and she deserves to be talked about more
fr i balled my eyes out that was so sad
Marina Pauli yeah ikr
She didn't even put up an ounce of fight it's hard for me to feel too bad for the old lady.
Kayla Wingett what time stamp are you talking about bc all of the women that got kidnapped in the video definitely put up a fight
@@mfhoss9570 no I'm talking about the old lady that lost her daughter. The same lady you were talking about. She didn't fight one bit and just relented right away like "k i guess you have my daughter now." So it's hard for me to feel bad for her.
I don't know what is worse, the men seeing nothing wrong with removing someone's bodily autonomy and integrity and not caring about consent, or how other older and supposedly wiser women are playing into this. It's heartbreaking. The sooner this "tradition" goes, the more people's lives will be saved.
The reporter saying „good luck guys“ to the kidnappers is disgusting 🤮
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
the whole tradition is the definition of "I'm too scared to get rejected" .
@Ben Shapiro Oh my god you her good. She's so triggered right now oma gawddd. Mr. Shabibo
@Ben Shapiro women are being kidnapped there you dumbass this isn’t just about feminism this is about basic human rights
@Ben Shapiro then why did that one girl commit suicide because of it? Honestly I didn’t know someone could be this dumb
@Ben Shapiro tradition or not it’s wrong
@@ShammaAlshamsi-wo3kf Tradition is number one, law can’t bypass it.
“All girls must get married”
“Calm down, you’ll be happy”
Words cannot describe how thankful I am to not have to go through this.
I feel so so bad for her.😭
Come down you happy 😱
TheIntrovertedGiraffe me too😞🥺😭😭
Right? I have no idea what I'd do if I was in that situation. But at least that girl did want to marry that man, even if it wasn't right there and then. I feel worse for the others who are kidnapped by men they don't want and forcefully married and raped.
Kixi They have no choice but to agree. They are shunned by their entire community if the disgusting ritual is completed and they refuse to play happy families.
It's either play along or be homeless/honour killed.
This is beyond vile. Where are NATO when human rights abuses like this take place? The first women is a perfect example of what Stockholm syndrome looks like.
Kixi I kill the groom idc self defense
As a girl I'm crying with her so much that my fingers are shaking with a blurry vision. Some traditions should be buried with the ancient times please everyone have some human rights and it's against it
Sadly my mom was kidnapped too. My dad only saw her twice in his life and decided to kidnap her in a car with his friends. The saddest part is that if the woman rejects in our culture by calling her dad/brother to pick her up ,for example, the man´s family side spread it around so that the woman will never be able to marry someone because of the ´´shame´´. It happend in West Europe and my mother was illegally married at the age of 16/17
I hate it whenever people use the words "culture" and "tradition" to try and justify cruel practices.
Malacki655 2.0 literally!!! A certain belief or an action having a lot of followers or believers doesn’t make it moral or ethical. The what are you gonna do it’s their tradition comments are cancerous
But when society normalizes the act, be it cruel or not, then it does become a "tradition" and culture. Same way crazy cults are formed that torture humans.
Same
Omag im literally shaking
Malacki655 2.0 as if they were getting away with it freely
*"MAMA"* that one repeated word was truly heartbreaking
You might not know but in case of arranged marriage girls cried a lot too. Just like that....sometimes for months
Red October woah chill dude
@@sozibrahman8504 but its not ok to kidnap though
@@rouvin9213 bug off weird guy
xepseL thanks for getting that bug off me
you have done a great job documenting this but it made me so deeply disturbed because of how raw and real this is. I am sorry I have a sensitive heart, so I could not finish the video. Thank you for bringing this in the light.
I did some research , this practice Does not existe anymore , iT only existed in some small villages in the first place . But now it doesn't , so pls just be happy , and calme you sensitive Heart ❤❤❤.
Thank you for this, I have a sensitive heart too and my whole week was about to be ruined because of this video 😭
I can’t even begin to imagine the fear inside the poor girls head when they get kidnapped. This is so horrible even if it is a so called “tradition”,
Imagine being kidnapped and seeing this awkward scrawny hipster staring at you with crossed arms
I know right! I think it would make it harder because it’s like,,, you can’t even help me?😔😣😢
@@rachelolivarez5892 awkward scrawny hipster: "Nah...im just watching and doing a research"
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 I am actually curious, did they just stand there
I also feel sad but
Damn you guys,they trying to not get involved because its just dangerous
I imagine the “kidnapping” where the presenter was witness to was consensual (in the video, the men are seen to instruct the woman how the kidnapping will unfold and that she can beat them if she likes) but she is putting up some resistance to keep the appearances I guess (so that it does not seem to be preplanned to the rest of the community). I cannot imagine the camera crew being willful participants in an actual kidnapping of a stranger as it happens in other cases, just for filming purposes.
Women walks on the street
Krgystani men: so you've chosen marriage
That's fucked up
@Yosh065 which is
@@darlingmis Nah it ain't like that anymore, maybe hundred years ago it was happening, but not now. "Kidnapping" is mostly away for a couple to marry each other if parents of girl doesn't give request to the boy to marry their daughter. It is prohibited by law to kidnap and marry someone.
@@user-nh5qd3nc5c Thats still fucked up.
Seems like more of something for show. Like staged or recreated.
I find it a bit strange how she was only against it at the beginning and was totally scared. Shortly afterwards, she was suddenly so happy and agreed with the marriage.
It was one because she eventually gave up and found no point in fighting back, or two the nice treats and gestures by the new family around her manipulated her in a way to try and feel happy, almost like a tactic they use when the girl is brought into the place after the kidnapping, Truly disgusting
She gave up cuz she knew she had no choice but to agree to it.
It's sort of like how people get recruited into cults. They tire you so much to the point where your brain gets all jumbled up so you can't think clearly resulting in you agreeing to join them.
She had no choice as she knows what will happen when the cameras are off ….
I've read that the tradition of bride kidnapping which is widespread not only in Kyrgyzstan but Central Asia in general comes from times when the grooms family had to pay a dowry to the bride which was negotiated with her family who of course wants a high price for the woman. So when the negotiations failed because the price was to considered to expensive the groom's family started kidnapping the woman, marrying her immediately after that to the groom, I think oftentimes rape included. Because afterwards she was considered unclean which meant the price would drop. Afterwards the grooms family knocks on the door of the brides family as thieves with lots of gifts, a sheep etc. as a dowry to appease them and make it easier for them to accept the merging of the families since the groom is now probably the only man willing to marry the unclean woman.
Since this method proved to be very effective in finding a bride and have her cheaper (bc maybe she is more beautiful, better chef, cleaner etc. than the groom could afford), it became a widespread tradition to first kidnap and marry the woman, then bring the gifts and over time the practice of paying dowry upfront vanished.
Of course the woman or girl is treated like an object to sell and buy but also as human as she is welcomed to the new family where traditionally she is in a weird position having to prove herself to the family as a good wife to the groom, which is basically being a good servant in terms of cooking and cleaning. And since she fought and cried on the wedding day she now has to accept her life as the wive in the new family with whom a good relationship is now desirable. So she proves herself, the groom and his family has managed to achieve better leverage first over the the brides family to accept the wedding and secondly over the bride to serve as a good wive in their household. She pushes away her trauma and powerlessness from the wedding and tries to achieve a good standing in her new family. Her needs and emotions are not addressed and consequently everybody can make a little fun about the kidnapping, wedding and call it a happy marriage and happy tradition since the now wive fit in and made the best out of it since traditionally she most likely has to live in that marriage for the rest of her life. Even for the wives laughing about the wedding kidnappings even their own helps them accept their own fates and see it as something positive if they don't want to cry about their trauma and life situation for the rest of their life. Also they have learned through their own wedding and marriage that the brides emotions, needs, trauma don't need to be addressed.
It's a tradition that creates and maintains a clear power imbalance and serves primarily men, but also families, it's patriarchy at it's best.
Please don't use the term "power imbalance" it's cringe, otherwise good post.
@@terrancewood9322maybe you don’t understand what power imbalance means. Guess what? That’s not her problem. Go read and don’t be stubborn 😢
Her wanting to be lawyer and just passively accepting whats happening to her is just incredibly heartbreaking
Why can't she be a lawyer as well? She has plenty of time left and he seems like a nice guy.
@@michaelmoores2654 Plenty of time my ass. I bet you never experienced taking care of a child.
@@michaelmoores2654 I know right?
She can still be a lawyer in her dreams bro its not all bad
@@michaelmoores2654 i dont know about the nice guy part ...
Normal guys: omg I'm so nervous what if she says no?😣
Kyrgyzstan: omg I'm so nervous what if she *escapes* ?😞
Lol
LOL
Lol 😂
lol
Lol
Just got through the first few seconds and it's already so horrible with the animal abuse. I can't imagine the rest of the documentary.
Yeah :(
Animal abuse? their eating the sheep not wasting it, plus yu eat meat aswell in the west dont you?
Exactly! Nobody talks about this :(
@@eonthinker100yrago8 the game they were playing at the start of the video, idiot
I heard this was a common tradition back in the cowboy days at Northern Mexico. My grandma was kidnapped once and had a baby from a runaway guy, she never saw him again, that baby is my aunt and she looks slightly different than my mom and the other siblings
That’s just rape not forced marriage
I think the worst part is all her family and neighbours just laughing as she's dragged away screaming. Yikes.
They need to stop this stupid tradition
@@erdenebolor.e yes fuck those tradition
She was happy too
Yep
@@erdenebolor.e make them...
The worst part for me is their laughing at the crying and struggling of the “bride”
The worst part is how the mother whose daughter commited suicide, gave her daughter BACK to the kidnappers. What a fckin idiot.
Grubby bum yeah I was thinking the same thing she acting like it was there fault she committed suicide but if they would have just ignored there “cousins” and took there daughter back she wouldn’t of hanged herself
@@grubbybum3614 Honestly, when you live within a culture, you think in the terms that culture gives you. She probably really hoped it'd turn out well, only getting a reality check when it was forced upon her.
Cause if they say yes their desperate and if they say no they’re innocent
I thought it was stupid too, but perhaps the pressure is some such it could affect their living?
The guy was saying: if she cries, she'll be happy after she married. Imagine if one of these kidnaped brides doesn't cry and is deathly calm. Looks at each of them and promises that none will live to see their wedding day, and does it.
as sick as this made me, seeing the little girls, like elementary school age, running around and witnessing this made me sicker. im half convinced that they held these kidnappings in such public manners so it became more customary for children to see as they grow up, and then there would be less resistance from the next generation. these rural areas tried to normalize this and its sickening.
**Girl gets kidnapped**
People around: 😂🤣😅
yea, that was the sickening part to watch
In America the response would be 👱🏻♀️🏃🏼♂️🚔💀
@@Christarfire 🔫
Well they think it’s “traditional” so I bet that other people would even give a damn.
**Girl gets kidnapped**
People around : Oh, what a cute couple.
"I'm dating someone" "no you're not! No one dates"
This is messed up
That one got me too. She was a beautiful girl I felt so sorry for her.
The fact that I cannot help them makes me sad
Glad the tradition is dead.
@@daev13k oh yes ? that such a suck tradition
@@callmerespect9177 Tradition is dead. Kyrgyzstan is a wonderful country without dumb tradition. This Video is propaganda. The tradition was never like shown in the Video.
I'm literally 3 seconds in and horrified at the horses being forced to slam into each other while some other poor creature is hanging by its throat. Haven't even gotten to the kidnappings, Jesus.
i started crying when she screamed for her mom
The worst thing is the fact that those old grandmas besides her are taking it as a some sort of joke even though they've felt the same feeling of being kidnapped without you knowing anything about it before.
Brainwashing.
I don't think they were married the same way since, as it was mentioned in the video, due to communism such traditional/religious practises were forbidden. Although, I think they actually knew that girl wanted to marry him in the end (since they were already a couple) and she was just pretending to not want to get kidnapped in order to not let others believe that she was desperate to get married by complying from the start (again I'm not entirely sure that is 100% sure about this but, in the end, I think the girl was smiling and accepting the whole thing...)
@@anti-logic4537 your username makes a lot of sense. This is disgraceful.
@@anti-logic4537 that's called grooming and Stockholm syndrome
Stockholm syndrome?
My mother was also a victim of this kidnapping, she still tells us how she was mistreated and how my biological father beat her when he was in a bad mood, but thank goodness now we live separately
:( I'm so sorry to hear that. ... Your mother might be a strong woman. Most of the victims can't do this. They just give up. Like the girl from the video.
Was it in the same country or this tradition exists somewhere else?
@@artemkh8944 This tradition existed for example in Georgia too. It still does, but mostly in villages and not often anymore, fortunately. Very rarely. Georgians have developed.
Where you from
@@Melko_277 Kyrgyzstan
I hope she is doing ok now, I hope that bride can give us all a life update
Wow I'm genuinely shocked of the striking resemblance. I'm from a North-eastern state of India called Manipur, and we also have such tradtition of kidnapping brides but not directly from homes, rather when going on dates or casual meeting and will take the bride home and in most cases the couple then stay the night in a friend's home but can also directly take her in his home. In the next morning, the groom's father and 2 or 3 uncles visit the bride's home and formally ask for the girl's hand in marriage to their son. We can conclude that we all have the same ancestors I believe😁
my heart just broke into pieces, when the girl was screaming for her mom.
looked like her family was laughing and didn't really put up any resistance at all. It's disturbing.
@@starcrafter13terran they were like "thats how mafia works"
Zafar Muzawar same i literally cried
@@leniarmstrongxxx6222 yea
mine also. .
2013: I'm going to go kidnap my wife!
2033: Why did all the women leave our country?
They’re gonna get their karma. Like China men who can’t find the brides because they’re killing the girl babies.
@Red October its not even about being western its just knowing what morally good and whats not. This? Not it. Pedophilia is looked down upon and bullshit if you think they dont do that shit just as much in other countries but western countries speak about issues. I wasnt even born in the west but I'm aware of issues.
@Red October calm down western culture is different than this brutall culture. Even Saudi Arabia treat girls better than that
Fun memes. Well we got law against kidnapping brides in 2013. Educate yourself 🤷🏾♀️
@@dionysusswine60 word? Thats good
The gaslighting from the family just makes this 5x worse that it already is
The reporter has me rolling on the floor the dynamic is so ironically drastic
The bride looks sick and exhausted, like she's about to cry in every scene
scareface936 Ew stop being immature please
broadcast star Smh.....Imagine being married to someone for 12 years and then all the sudden they want a divorce. Alimony and half of everything you worked so hard for goes to them....and they didn’t contribute to any of your weath.....that’s scary.
scareface936 12 years in a marriage sounds like a good couple to me also it’s better then being forced against your will and shoved into a car by 5 grown men saying it’ll be okay.
@@THELASTREALKING93 ...i dont know. I've heard this arguement made a lot of times and it always confused me. And i always ask them this quiestion-"Do you believe men and women should be given equal opportunities in life,career wise, job wise,etc"
Because if you dont think that women should be paid the same as men for the same job, then you dont get to make that arguement. A lot of women choose to quit their jobs and stay at home to raise their kids,in which case they are trusting their husbands to take care of them financially.
Now if the man decided he wanted to divorce his wife, but the wife had not been to work in years cause she was busy taking care of him and his wife, she would not have the financial stability to live a normal life.
I agree that there are a lot of gold diging women who are terribe people. But the same goes for men. There are men who are terrible people who would do unspeakable things to women(dont deny it, )
and also, there is also the problem of maternity leave. Do you have any idea what kind of toll pregnancy takes on womens bodies?? And now imagine having to go back to work before youre fully recovered.
P.S, if she wants a divorce after putting up with him for 12 years, then theres prolly something else to it
This entire country is one big case of the Stockholm Syndrome
Except the girls are left traumatized, and usually unhappy
Heeeeey, wtf I live in this country and how u see it happens in villages and loweducated ppl
@@jikasay3820 Just because you see a happening doesn't mean it's good. And what you said wasn't even a proper sentence.
@@kiml1226 He was saying that it only happens among uneducated people and people in the countryside.
@@kiml1226 Yes Im also from Kirghizistan, but saying that all ppl from the country are bad because of an old tradition done by very few idiots is wrong. Its like 1 to 3% population doing this today. Its sad because its also happened to my aunty when she was young, but my grandparents were able to stop them.
As someone who watches videos with cc enabled, I'd really appreciate if you didn't cover english subtitles of people speaking kyrgyz with the "[speaking foreign language]" cc. Very annoying
I watched a Japanese reality show called Ainori. It’s about Japanese singles who travel across certain countries and fall in love. One of their trips was in Kyrgyzstan. The cast members learned about bride kidnapping and they used this video as an example. They downplayed it and made it seem as if she knew what was happening and was a willing participant. When they showed how she was doing at that point in time (2018) she said that she was very happy and was in love with her husband. Despite her saying that, seeing that happen and hearing her call out to her mom and cry while everyone around her is laughing just really makes me sick to my stomach
I don't understand that girl helping those boys to kidnap the other girl... She was supposed to be her friend ?!
Yes, she is . But in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan girls think that's better than be forced to have sex with random man
Саяжан Узакбаева Oh, ok, but I still feel sad for those girls, because as they say in this video there is some girls that ends their lives :/
Mlle Chromosome That friend there is what we'd call a "backstabber" here in the western world. That's not a friend.
Mellow Noor that was what I was thinking, but I didn't found a word to describe her without being disrespectful
Mlle Chromosome I feel like the friend was pressured into it. If she refused she would be against tradition which result in people against her. You can tell on her face she did not want to do this
Imagine getting recorded for the whole world to see during the most humiliating and demeaning moment of your whole life
Ana.C.R And imagine being proud of the kidnapping you just committed just because you think it’s a spiritual event. This is why civilization has rejected religion based government.
But at the same time this is to spread awareness, they wouldn't agree to record this if the dude and the camera guy had stopped them, so what could they do? They'll just kidnap her again while refusing to record this.
you are an idiot! that was the happiest day of her life
The atrocity of this is not the recording of it.
I don't need to imagine. Just wait til I finally post that shit.
How did you guys get married?
Them: "Stockholm Syndrome"
Exactly ..😢
I genuinely cannot feel happy for her... I just can't... Her calling for her mom and just accepted her faith bcuz she can't do anything or even if she tried struggling... I'm sure some people there are very nice people but I legitimately feel sick to my stomach that I can't hold back my tears...
Whoever came up with this tradition was a lunatic.
Several hundred year ago it was fine but today is the modern day......I was hoping this tradition will end soon......
@@sueb2898 no honey islam doesn't force people to get mary or kidnapping.
it's illegal and forbidden in Islam.
STOP being racist
Some of arab follows stuff like this and say it's traditional but it's not,
Like every place in the world.
Remember racist person : some of people doesn't represent all.
@@sueb2898 ahahahaha if Islam is like that I would have many wife by now ahaahahahaha.
@@Mr-Ad-196 well are you saying you'd have followed this practices if it were to be said in the Qur'an.
@@salifusadat3002 hrmmmmm depends.
Possibly the dumbest tradition I've ever seen.
RoBoVader especially since this “tradition” was made up to escape arranged marriages and basically became what it was trying to escape
@Lzb Lmvm but you're not haha
its not that dumb once you see women dying and suffering with it ...ITS EVIL ....this was also an ancient Indian practice stated in mahabharata but it was done from an arena where a bride was choose from a several contenders ...but a jerk could practise power and fantasy weapons..to kidnap the bride by force ...only if he proves to be stronger !
Thats a part of nomadic cultures.
Or the dunbest people ever seen
I know I shouldn’t be laughing but the face that he made at 15:32 when receiving the candy sent me
Imagine saying to your daughter who’s a child “you’ll get kidnapped like me*
"Be careful not ro let her run anyway" and then they *laugh* ,
At this point, im so *disgust*
JenLisa is da thing me too i’ve heard about this but I didnt actually think they still do this
Dr Agam You’re saying that as if people WANT to get kidnapped.
@Dr Agam Your mom didn't wait 9 months for you to come out and say this shit
Dr Agam I’m pretty sure she doesn’t want to be kidnapped
@Dr Agam You're disgusting
Dont call this crime a "tradition" this is absolutely horrifying
Just because it’s a crime doesn’t mean it isn’t tradition
@@thebasado4524 LMFAO.
@@captainjackpugh6050
"Tradition" doesn't always mean "far-sighted".
The Basado 😂😂👌🏾
What a coincidence, krygystans and I share the same “hobby"
love does not stem from kidnapping. A consensual, dignified, mature relationship cannot bloom from a couple that was created as a result of violence, not as one where the victim calls for something that was forcibly taken away from her and not one where the girls' screaming, kicking and protests are invalid.
i don't know if I am over dramatic but I feel like crying seeing the girls scream
congrats you have emotions
@@YorKneeLMAO
The fact that her friend helped is terrifying, they can't trust anybody
But they’ve already been dating. The kidnapping thing is just tradition (staged) You can tell she was faking it
@@camacho_roman_costume Ah okay, so anyone who you are currently dating could just kidnap you and force you into marriage, yeah sure that seems totally reasonable to me.....oh wait, actually thats horrible and yeah sure she was so faking it, what about the girl that hung herself, is she also faking it, man thats some good act she has going on.....i dont like you defending that shit in any way, you should know better.
I reckon there’s a lot of intimidation and pressure that goes on. Her friend didn’t look that willing to participate and when they were trying to drag the girl out of the car, her friends tried to get hold of her to keep her in and one of the boys forced her hands off her. It’s easy for us to say she helped, but chances are she didn’t really have much of a choice
did you watch the whole thing? it´s staged rewatch it you dummy and focus abit more.
Chill, the point is this is a tradition and whether this was planned or not we still cant rule out that a situation like that never occurred
The lady that the daughter suicide because she was kidnapped broke my heart.
sadpeepol :v Right? How sick.
simp
Pre destinated no stop it’s disgusting
@@imok3487 because.
Internet.
+Pre destinated
Here we have another 13 year old who uses the word “simp” without knowing the meaning of it.
Interviewer - You gonna finish your school?
Girl - Yes.
Interviewer - Well, here's your cookingware. Happy Marriage.
I was explained this tradition by my Jordanian foreign exchange student-sister. This is so much more terrifying than she explained. Probably because she didn't want to
Its not that she had ‘accepted’ her fate when she gave in and ate whatever the mothers had offered. She was exhausted
Nope. Everyone can have their own beliefs but no one can force their own beliefs on others in actions that affect them like this. Nations don’t matter. Otherwise, if the man’s tradition is kidnapping the bride, then the bride can say that her tradition is killing the man who kidnapped her.
@Yunus Hailey You can continue your tradition in a way that affects only yourself and those who wants to be affected. Just because you care about your national identity doesn't mean others in your country do, and they have a right not to subscribe to the identity and abandon the culture. I know I don't care about my country and its culture, and other people in other countries can also choose to feel the same way if they want. No one should be identified by their country anyways, unless they as an individual wants to.
@Yunus Hailey Your tradition is cruel and evil. Every tradition is just an idea that began in the past. Once we used to put black cats in a wooden box, and smash the box and the cat because of superstition. That nonsense was repeated for hundreds of years, and it even lives on today, but the wooden box is now painted and the content is candy. Still utterly stupid. Just because an idea is old, it doesn't make it good. On the contrary, it's stupid not to take old ideas up to revision. That is how a society and a people improve themselves. That is the very reason every country - including yours - has extinct traditions in the first place. Otherwise, we would still perform some stupid nonsense going back to the stone-age, simply because "Well it's tradition".
@Yunus Hailey shut tf up it’s disgusting
@Yunus Hailey I don't think that's how you got your whole population from Asian looking people into European
I don’t care if it’s a tradition, this is absolutely disgusting. No girl deserves this, even if she wants to be married. the stress and trauma that these men have gave her is awful.
@@velvet_moon. Facts. Cruel men too
@@zneytram1432 no shu1 up.
@@zneytram1432 Nah, just cruel women.
@@TripleKmafia 😕
@@TripleKmafia men and woman, they are both equal 😟
dats enough internet for me today💀
Reminder that this is forbidden in Islam, non-consensual marraige isn't allowed.
lol, but it happens regardless. So?
@ohno7153 So this isn't an Islamic thing
Bro bruh u drink or ur mom drink thats not islamic thing its old and common culture before milions years
But on the other hand, in Islam, children can consent to being married off? Otherwise you have to explain how there are so many cases of fathers tricking their daughters back to egypt or pakistan or some other country and forcing them into marrying a much older guy. Lets face it, in Islam, like in many religions, women are classed below men, and mistreating them doesn't quite have the same gravity as mistreating a man.
Wow it got me in tears when she started calling for her mom. This is cruel.
Your pfp is literally my reaction when seeing this.
Don’t be racist! It’s just a different culture
@@realy7392 being racist means not liking someone for the skin color hence the word race what does her not agreeing to the culture have to do with race
@@justanotherarmy8607 It's not just skin color, it's the race or country they come from in general (or the circumstance that happened when they were born). but i do agree, not agreeing with a culture has nothing to do with race at all.
But after a while she felt ok though
This is so disturbing, I really felt for her calling out for her mum, that hurt my heart. 😢
Same
its sick how even the women contribute to the kidnapping
It’s tradition is not even a tradition it’s devilish
It makes you wonder who started these so called f'@*ed up traditions!
@@lavenderharmony944 probably some devils
Can we get an update on the bride and groom? Whether she got to pursue Law or at the least finished school?
Iam muslim and i didn't saw any of islamic thing in there traditions
Iam surprised that there are some people calling themselves maslims and do such a thing in addition to drinking alcohol and .......🙄🙄🙄🙄
the way she was calling for her mom is so heartbreaking oh my god
you sound like a feminist
@@Predestinated1 wtf, how is that
@@Predestinated1 you sound like a dumbass
Pre destinated look at your empty profile. Hahahaha!!!! What a weakling 😂
@@Predestinated1 you sound heartless
The next episode : husband poisoning in Kyrgystan
Yeah!!!! I like it the should do it🤣😂
@Melanin Queen shouldn't had kidnapped the lady. Guy got it coming to him.
i’d love to see that LMAOO
😂😂😂😂😂
This should be legal lol
“You’re crying so you’ll be happy” what kind of logic is that