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- In rural Kyrgyzstan men still marry their women the old-fashioned way: by abducting them off the street and forcing them to be their wife. Bride kidnapping is a supposedly ancient custom that's made a major comeback since the fall of Communism and now accounts for nearly half of all marriages in some parts. We traveled to the Kyrgyz countryside to follow a young groom named Kubanti as he surprised his teenage girlfriend Nazgul with the gift of marriage/kidnapping.
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Sounds interesting! I'd also enjoy seeing a followup to this particular documentary, finding the couple married in this show, and seeing what their thoughts are now on bride kidnapping -- it's been over a decade since this documentary first aired.
Wtf!!!!! This’s straight up lies!!! I’m from Saudi Arabia there’s 0% of SA in our schools bcuz IT’S NOT MIXED we only have all girls or all boys school
This’s shocking how u ppl would shamelessly accuse islam of the things that happens routinely in ur non muslim countries in my muslim country it’s a CRIM to even cat call women even asking for a woman’s number is considered illegal us muslim women feel the safest in our countries unlike the women in western and non muslim countries the statistics of sexual assault are over the roof yet u have the audacity to make these videos against islam i mean we know it’s a propaganda but unfortunately many ignorants believe it
In Islam does not has such kind of kidnapping bro please do not belong your wrong opinion without adequate evidence!
Imagine youre a tourist and suddenly you become a strangers wife
Beast Sw 😆
🤣
This happens to dudes? I get this a lot but I'm pretty.
This actually happened to two female tourists a few years back, they got their national embassy involved and were able to return home after about a week.
No. They kiddnapp only women they know. Not strangers. Cmon a little bit of common sens. A tradition is something that belong to them and they societies. So they know each other and the plan everything.... well there is a foreigner in the town who look extact like the bride to be... Ouch! Bad for her
I hate it whenever people use the words "culture" and "tradition" to try and justify cruel practices.
Malacki655 2.0 literally!!! A certain belief or an action having a lot of followers or believers doesn’t make it moral or ethical. The what are you gonna do it’s their tradition comments are cancerous
But when society normalizes the act, be it cruel or not, then it does become a "tradition" and culture. Same way crazy cults are formed that torture humans.
Same
Omag im literally shaking
Malacki655 2.0 as if they were getting away with it freely
i cried with the mom whose daughter committed suicide. i want to give her a hug, what a horrible loss
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
The mother allowed it to happen though. She allowed the man to kidnap her
@@paulinadrygulska1947 sad
@@paulinadrygulska1947 yeah, I can only feel so bad, when she's culpable in her own daughter's death. what kind of a parent would let their kid go through something like that.
@@paulinadrygulska1947 No she didn't allowed the kidnapping. It is stated in the video that they event took their daughter on the next day, however their cousins pressured them saying that it is not right to take the bride and because of the pressure they give in and blessed the marriage. It is just sad that tradition is above their religion and law.
The girl being kidnapped and then 3 men holding her, her yelling mom. My heart broke, I felt so helpless like how she was feeling at that moment. Almost cried.
what about cultural diversity?
Thats not a cultural diversity its a cruelty you can see easily
don't try to be educated@@Shadowfeather-sb4vc
@Shadowfeather-sb4vc ikr all these fake democrats say they feel bad for other cultures, but when it comes to eating dog and stuff like this, they instantly change their views to fit conservative american morales
you know what? my life aint that bad after all.
@Cj Amen
@Cj a men has kidnapped my daughter
lol
@NatalieListensToMusic K no
@NatalieListensToMusic K amen has fallen into river in lego city
it's even scarier when you realize that someone could actually be kidnapping a girl in plain sight with no intention of marrying her and people would just think that it's the tradition.
thats what I WAS THINKING like omg how do you differentiate between a wedding tradition and a possible gangrape???
I mean I would also consider this actually kidnapping a girl but true
Probably kidnapping with no intention of marrying is against the law
Yeah no, that's the thing! It might be difficult to tell whether someone is actually being kidnapped or not
Does without the marrying part make much of a difference? You mean without her consent right?
no one's gonna talk about her "friend"? she knew her friend's dream to finish school and become a lawyer yet she lured her into that marriage. And please, the way the grooms men was touching the bride to keep her from moving.
fr.so traumatizing and jaw dropping
Just horrible
This was just horrible
They said they would allow the bride to continue their education…
@@KaiserTwo Yes they allow it 🙏🙏thank god!! A woman must be allowed...
Every single woman in this video is a victim. Generational trauma is very real, this is a culture that has endured tradition with such commitment that every bright young light inside these girls is snubbed out by it. My heart bleeds for them
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
I am Kyrgyz, but this tradition does not exist now. now someone touches a girl and they'll go to jail
@@black-xu8dethat is great to hear, what changed in the last few years to make this happen?
@@black-xu8de have any kidnapped bride unalived the groom and his whole family by poisoning them for destroying her life? and don't tell me this bullshit tradition does not exist now when this video is just from few years ago
@@black-xu8deWhat laws were implemented in order for this to change?
Imagine being kidnapped and seeing this awkward scrawny hipster staring at you with crossed arms
I know right! I think it would make it harder because it’s like,,, you can’t even help me?😔😣😢
@@rachelolivarez5892 awkward scrawny hipster: "Nah...im just watching and doing a research"
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 I am actually curious, did they just stand there
I also feel sad but
Damn you guys,they trying to not get involved because its just dangerous
I imagine the “kidnapping” where the presenter was witness to was consensual (in the video, the men are seen to instruct the woman how the kidnapping will unfold and that she can beat them if she likes) but she is putting up some resistance to keep the appearances I guess (so that it does not seem to be preplanned to the rest of the community). I cannot imagine the camera crew being willful participants in an actual kidnapping of a stranger as it happens in other cases, just for filming purposes.
These are the moments you feel grateful for growing in the place you did
I’m eating your profile picture right now
I don’t know, dead goat polo seems fun.
Yeah but people still have the blatant idiocy to cry about all the "oppression" in the west. It's ridiculous.
P e r s e p h o n e . A n n I-
Why do you have to be grateful? It's obviously supposed to be equal. You don't be grateful when someone do just what they have to do.
She was absolutely terrified. She didn't consent. I am honestly terrified just watching this as a woman.
@@Unknown00432 nice joke. look at what they just did to the pakestani female students...and a couple years ago a TOURIST was kidnapped..
And the way she called out for her mom is heartbreaking
So there is some true to sound of freedom than
I’m a man and watching this right now, it’s incredibly painful and sad. My home country may not be perfect but I am so blessed that the women in my life live here and not there. God have mercy.
what about cultural diversity?
Kyrgyzstan has changed a lot in 2015 after a big scandal. The police stopped ignoring these crimes and imprisoning people. Both on TV and at school they began to tell people that this was a bad custom and to make films about it.
Что за скандал?
which scandal?
If true then I'm incredibly happy to hear that. But what scandal led them to intolerate this tradition, if i may ask?
"soooo how did you two meet"
"at knifepoint"
Playa Unknown "at gunpoint"
"At McDonald's"
Lol
LOL WTF my comment got 1.9k likes hahaha thats a first.
😝
"Girls will be happy if they get married crying"
What utter disgust
Seems they can't tell the difference between tears of sorrow & joy.
Right, wrong kinda cryin bruh 🤦🏼♀️
i know rigtht that jiust disgust me
Naziur Honestly, like wtf.
Exactly
CRIME IN THE DISGUISE OF TRADITION IS STILL A CRIME. I REPEAT, CRIME IN DISGUISE OF TRADITION IS STILL A CRIME. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣
🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯🥰🔥💯💯🙏🙏
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
Absolutely
it's "traditional crime" then....
That is WILDDDD. Can you imagine you're just going to get some milk and bread and someone just kidnaps you and takes you to their family and tries to marry you in your errand running clothes? I cannot believe this is a real tradition.
This is how ancient horsemen married in turkic-Mongol culture. It's awful yes. No wonder why they followed Islam.
do you know it took them so long to convert to islam? like the 17th century. and krygz people barely practice islam cus of the soviet suppression of religion. @@phoenixj1299
@@phoenixj1299 Tell me you only know Islam from the news without telling me you only know Islam from the news:
@@THEdeflatedballoon The fact that you are a Muslim is a proof that you don't know Islam.
@@THEdeflatedballoon how old was aisha?
I love how awkward the interviewer is. Mans is just vibing while he’s witnessing a crime I mean tradition I mean crime.
epic
Nah i think you mean tradition
@@ahmeddyasalkhwarizmi8783 crime sis
Where u are maybe it’s a crime but to them it’s tradition.
@Number wa an A tradition that no woman wants to follow, as seen in some of these cases, if they don't believe in these traditions than why would she follow it? Is thet hard to understand? or are you stupid
Welcome to Kyrgyzstan where the countries motto is "No means Yes"
Quagmire must be their greatest deity.
lol.
lol
😳
"No means Yes. Yes means Anal!" - Yale Students
I swear, just google it
Her friend pretending to fight back as if she wasn’t agreeing and literally helped her get kidnapped
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY.
It's downright scary and sickening just how little empathy these guys have
And what about the woman?
“But if the men don’t kidnap, they might never get married”. If the only way for a man to get married is for him to kidnap someone, then that’s a sign that he shouldn’t get married.
Underrated comment
You are stupid.
They are doing what Nature do.
Like eating meat is natural sex is.
@@Sahilbc-wj8qk what wait i dont understand. Can u elaborate
I wanna go there and try this on a girl
@@lloritoshaneerinmitchells.8657 they’re using the logical fallacy that “the natural way is the right way”
the whole tradition is the definition of "I'm too scared to get rejected" .
@Ben Shapiro Oh my god you her good. She's so triggered right now oma gawddd. Mr. Shabibo
@Ben Shapiro women are being kidnapped there you dumbass this isn’t just about feminism this is about basic human rights
@Ben Shapiro then why did that one girl commit suicide because of it? Honestly I didn’t know someone could be this dumb
@Ben Shapiro tradition or not it’s wrong
@@ShammaAlshamsi-wo3kf Tradition is number one, law can’t bypass it.
“If she says yes everybody will think she is desperate to get married!” 💀
That crazy 😂😂
based
my jaw dropped my saw that
This so-called kidnapping is just a game. The bride and the groom already know each other and they make the plan. Different countries have different traditions. Indian brides are suppose to be shy and cry before leaving their houses for the groom's. If they don't, aunties talk behind them. I think it is similar in Kirgizstan. Brides are suppose to throw tantrum during kidnapping or aunties will gossip. That girl was also putting a show. But when the food is served, it means the show is over. Girls are just dramatic no matter where they are from.
@@abhijeetkundu2271i just hope that you be in the position of this brides someday. then you can talk about how fun this “game” is, and the girls are just dramatic creatures.
The photographer who captured the iconic image of the emaciated child next to a vulture killed himself. I don't know how you can casually watch rape and systemic abuse from a distance without feeling similar levels of guilt and pain.
Women walks on the street
Krgystani men: so you've chosen marriage
That's fucked up
@Yosh065 which is
@@darlingmis Nah it ain't like that anymore, maybe hundred years ago it was happening, but not now. "Kidnapping" is mostly away for a couple to marry each other if parents of girl doesn't give request to the boy to marry their daughter. It is prohibited by law to kidnap and marry someone.
@@user-nh5qd3nc5c Thats still fucked up.
Seems like more of something for show. Like staged or recreated.
Poor girl just wanted to enjoy her youth while she could. You can't tell me that "momma" wasn't heartbreaking seriously
EA7 it wasn’t you think she had no more fight in her?? Lmao everyone gets married like this there I call it crocodile 🐊 😭
@@vegasfinest702 Righttttt....because "everyone gets married like this there" means that every single woman there should accept and be happy with the fact that they're being kidnapped..
I bet you would want to live there and be kidnapped too, don't you?
Momma was on it too. 😢 Evil
12:43 ?
3lizA B33F 30,000 each year from video I saw
It’s heartbreaking when people try and defend “tradition” even when it’s dangerous, disgusting, and harmful. Unfortunately it’s always women and children who are victims of such “traditions”.
Actually it's usually women and children who gets special treatment, while the men die. The one tradition where women gets the downside, some girl is instantly on the comment like "Unfortunately it’s always women and children who are victims" 🤣🤣🤣 That's hilarious
You're the reason, the west is failing, eventhough we should be in a gold age right now. Your generation will truly be know as the ones who got everything handed to them, nothing else.
I am Kyrgyz, but this tradition does not exist now. now someone touches a girl and they'll go to jail
@@black-xu8de AlhamduliLah , that's a GooD thing , That kind of tradition is very Haram Brother.
@@black-xu8deNice
The fact that nobody in this video really cared about her and just laughed at her for being kidnapped and taken away everyone laughed at her in the whole entire video which is very sad.
And they just smile at her like as if she was a joke and she became a laughingstock to the yurt and village and to the people there also.
The next episode : husband poisoning in Kyrgystan
Yeah!!!! I like it the should do it🤣😂
@Melanin Queen shouldn't had kidnapped the lady. Guy got it coming to him.
i’d love to see that LMAOO
😂😂😂😂😂
This should be legal lol
No one gonna talk about the bride's friend setting her up like that....
No
BBS Gaming I got you,
FUCK THAT BITCH
Completely agree - fuck that bitch
The betrayal
Unless somebody here is from that culture, nobody can really talk about it. You can't speak about things unless you are versed in them. Otherwise you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I can only speak about it from an American perspective, and an American perspective on a Kyrgyzstan tradition is irrelevant
I don't know what is worse, the men seeing nothing wrong with removing someone's bodily autonomy and integrity and not caring about consent, or how other older and supposedly wiser women are playing into this. It's heartbreaking. The sooner this "tradition" goes, the more people's lives will be saved.
The reporter saying „good luck guys“ to the kidnappers is disgusting 🤮
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
game is game
Kinda awkward, I'd say
to be fair, he is a reporter. any sign that he's in disagreement, i'm sure the groomsmen will be quick to remove him from watching or recording. you have to build rapport with these people in order to capture the reality of the situation. it is obvious that the reporter felt truly uncomfortable with this tradition.
he was doing it to get footage, at the end he called the practice shitty. You have to understand he’s in a foreign country filming a cultural practice so if he disagreed there, they wouldn’t let him report on this issue. He couldn’t expose this practice for the rest of the world.
“Cultural Acceptance doesn’t mean accepting the unacceptable”- Jasvinder Sanghera
Found the Islamophobe.
if someone would come to kidnap my sis ,daughter i would have stabbed him even if i was a part of the culture
But who decides what is unacceptable?
prashant kalli from the UN International Human Rights Laws
“Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, regardless of race, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, or any other status. Human rights include the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom of opinion and expression, the right to work and education, and many more. Everyone is entitled to these rights, without discrimination.”
@@mjverostek1278 What aspect of Islam includes kidnapping women?
Whoever came up with this tradition was a lunatic.
Several hundred year ago it was fine but today is the modern day......I was hoping this tradition will end soon......
@@sueb2898 no honey islam doesn't force people to get mary or kidnapping.
it's illegal and forbidden in Islam.
STOP being racist
Some of arab follows stuff like this and say it's traditional but it's not,
Like every place in the world.
Remember racist person : some of people doesn't represent all.
@@sueb2898 ahahahaha if Islam is like that I would have many wife by now ahaahahahaha.
@@Mr-Ad-196 well are you saying you'd have followed this practices if it were to be said in the Qur'an.
@@salifusadat3002 hrmmmmm depends.
Sadly my mom was kidnapped too. My dad only saw her twice in his life and decided to kidnap her in a car with his friends. The saddest part is that if the woman rejects in our culture by calling her dad/brother to pick her up ,for example, the man´s family side spread it around so that the woman will never be able to marry someone because of the ´´shame´´. It happend in West Europe and my mother was illegally married at the age of 16/17
i started crying when she screamed for her mom
nobody’s talkin bout the old lady she lost her daughter to a terrible tradition and she deserves to be talked about more
fr i balled my eyes out that was so sad
Marina Pauli yeah ikr
She didn't even put up an ounce of fight it's hard for me to feel too bad for the old lady.
Kayla Wingett what time stamp are you talking about bc all of the women that got kidnapped in the video definitely put up a fight
@@mfhoss9570 no I'm talking about the old lady that lost her daughter. The same lady you were talking about. She didn't fight one bit and just relented right away like "k i guess you have my daughter now." So it's hard for me to feel bad for her.
How sweet, giving your wife PTSD and a lifelong fear of men right before the wedding
Frr
ayee 666th like
*cums*
That kind of relationship is Very Haram ... what is he going to say to GoD in the day of judgment ??? This Haram tradition must be stopped .
@@oussamabekk1108 Quran 4:19 "O believers! It is not permissible for you to inherit women against their will"
There is no suck thing as PTSD in south 😂, it is what it is. It tranformation of tradition
I've read that the tradition of bride kidnapping which is widespread not only in Kyrgyzstan but Central Asia in general comes from times when the grooms family had to pay a dowry to the bride which was negotiated with her family who of course wants a high price for the woman. So when the negotiations failed because the price was to considered to expensive the groom's family started kidnapping the woman, marrying her immediately after that to the groom, I think oftentimes rape included. Because afterwards she was considered unclean which meant the price would drop. Afterwards the grooms family knocks on the door of the brides family as thieves with lots of gifts, a sheep etc. as a dowry to appease them and make it easier for them to accept the merging of the families since the groom is now probably the only man willing to marry the unclean woman.
Since this method proved to be very effective in finding a bride and have her cheaper (bc maybe she is more beautiful, better chef, cleaner etc. than the groom could afford), it became a widespread tradition to first kidnap and marry the woman, then bring the gifts and over time the practice of paying dowry upfront vanished.
Of course the woman or girl is treated like an object to sell and buy but also as human as she is welcomed to the new family where traditionally she is in a weird position having to prove herself to the family as a good wife to the groom, which is basically being a good servant in terms of cooking and cleaning. And since she fought and cried on the wedding day she now has to accept her life as the wive in the new family with whom a good relationship is now desirable. So she proves herself, the groom and his family has managed to achieve better leverage first over the the brides family to accept the wedding and secondly over the bride to serve as a good wive in their household. She pushes away her trauma and powerlessness from the wedding and tries to achieve a good standing in her new family. Her needs and emotions are not addressed and consequently everybody can make a little fun about the kidnapping, wedding and call it a happy marriage and happy tradition since the now wive fit in and made the best out of it since traditionally she most likely has to live in that marriage for the rest of her life. Even for the wives laughing about the wedding kidnappings even their own helps them accept their own fates and see it as something positive if they don't want to cry about their trauma and life situation for the rest of their life. Also they have learned through their own wedding and marriage that the brides emotions, needs, trauma don't need to be addressed.
It's a tradition that creates and maintains a clear power imbalance and serves primarily men, but also families, it's patriarchy at it's best.
Please don't use the term "power imbalance" it's cringe, otherwise good post.
@@terrancewood9322maybe you don’t understand what power imbalance means. Guess what? That’s not her problem. Go read and don’t be stubborn 😢
@@terrancewood9322 what else are you supposed to call it when one person has power and another doesn't?
@@terrancewood9322how is it cringe
As a girl I'm crying with her so much that my fingers are shaking with a blurry vision. Some traditions should be buried with the ancient times please everyone have some human rights and it's against it
"You saw me once and wanted to kidnap me." Imagine saying that nonchalantly to your significant other.
I think he meant he wanted to rape her, but he decided to be polite for the cameras.
@@condeuiosandilixtos7858 No its about Kidnapping, raping he would get huge Problems wit other family, but kidnapping they tolerate becouse of virgin stupednes. Not that they dont rape every girl they can get without to much trouble afterwords. they have absolutly no feelings and empathy, completly cruel.
Just horrible.
'Your a girl, all girls get married.' imagine being kidnapped by a bunch of men, all your family watching and laughing, being held down in a car, and being told that. Jesus.
Random User I hated that to, like wtf
Good thing i am man...jesus i cant believe this tradition exist
Honestly I’d rather die at that point
@@aher1560 They're drinking and pushing people to drink. They don't know about Islam as it seems, or they don't care
@@aher1560 your religion was created by wife beating, pedophile, coward. Anyone who supports Islam and doesn't support this is a hypocrite
Imagine saying to your daughter who’s a child “you’ll get kidnapped like me*
I find it a bit strange how she was only against it at the beginning and was totally scared. Shortly afterwards, she was suddenly so happy and agreed with the marriage.
It was one because she eventually gave up and found no point in fighting back, or two the nice treats and gestures by the new family around her manipulated her in a way to try and feel happy, almost like a tactic they use when the girl is brought into the place after the kidnapping, Truly disgusting
She gave up cuz she knew she had no choice but to agree to it.
It's sort of like how people get recruited into cults. They tire you so much to the point where your brain gets all jumbled up so you can't think clearly resulting in you agreeing to join them.
She had no choice as she knows what will happen when the cameras are off ….
if she comes back to her family she will be shunned by her family and by society. after the kidnapped spend a night at the captor's house, most bride's families refuse to take her back because she's been "tainted" (even if she's still a virgin) and that theres "no point" in taking her back because shes been "taken". she knows that escape is futile and she doesnt want to dissapoint her family. she's given up. women in kyrgyzstan are raised to be complient, obedient, always helping around the house, selfless, etc. women aren't raised to stand up for themselves or to feel they have the power to leave.
Normal guys: omg I'm so nervous what if she says no?😣
Kyrgyzstan: omg I'm so nervous what if she *escapes* ?😞
Lol
Lol 😂
lol
Lol
@@Suicide_is_cute what's with the name?
I don't understand that girl helping those boys to kidnap the other girl... She was supposed to be her friend ?!
Yes, she is . But in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan girls think that's better than be forced to have sex with random man
Саяжан Узакбаева Oh, ok, but I still feel sad for those girls, because as they say in this video there is some girls that ends their lives :/
Mlle Chromosome That friend there is what we'd call a "backstabber" here in the western world. That's not a friend.
Mellow Noor that was what I was thinking, but I didn't found a word to describe her without being disrespectful
Mlle Chromosome I feel like the friend was pressured into it. If she refused she would be against tradition which result in people against her. You can tell on her face she did not want to do this
i don't know if I am over dramatic but I feel like crying seeing the girls scream
congrats you have emotions
@@YorKneeLMAO
“You’re crying so you’ll be happy” what kind of logic is that
I KNOW RIGHT!! its dumb😭🙏
That poor mother sharing her daughters suicide story. How awful.
i actually ended up showing middle finger at phone screen when she cried...
she totally listened to society when she should've stood by her side specially when the child said that the man was not a good person.
but she chose to go with the society. i so much would've wanted to punch her face if she was doing that drama near me.
She got kidnapped, then they found her, AND THEN SHE GAVE HER BACK WILLINGLY. to be raped and held hostage. Then you know he just kidnapped another bride.. Disgusting. Maybe she should have thought twice as a mother doing that to her baby girl.... That poor fucking girl. I feel bad for HER, not the mother that fucking GAVE HER TO HIM.
@@phaokemshanglonghu3965 What do you expect to happen when, as was stated in the video, a society works so hard to make girls obedient from the moment they can probably communicate. Peer pressure, cultural pressure, are things that have effected all people at some point to some degree, unfortunatelythe ramifications can be severe and devastating.
How hypocritical and ignorant of you to imbue yourself with so much superiority when you'd stoop so low as to kick someone while they're down. She's going to feel guilty for the rest of her life, no keyboard-coward has the right to pretend to be more upset about something she actually *has* to survive.
The Little Blerdmaid I bet you she wasn’t crying when they took her, a mother should always be protecting her kids at all costs no matter what culture or religion bs you deal with. She let them take her away knowing she didn’t want to, she failed as a parent in my opinion.
You’re wrong. In my country they also used to kidnap brides but nowadays they do it less because they pay a fine for that now, which most of them can not afford, although some pay it willingly. Anyways, you’re wrong about what you said about her mother, she probably didn’t think it was necessary or good for her daughter when they gave her back to the kidnapper. She says in the video, the cousins etc put pressure on them, telling the « it’s tradition ! You’re wrong you shouldn’t take her back ! ». She didn’t develop it but as it was also in my country’s tradition to kidnap brides I can tell you for sure that she didn’t want to give her daughter back but couldn’t do otherwise because she’s a woman and she has to OBEY. So when the male cousins / older men in the family got angry about them bringing their daughter back, when they scolded the girl’s dad for doing so, when they brought up « it’s tradition! » the girl’s dad probably felt ashamed in front of the elder men (cousins, uncles..) and in those societies you HAVE TO respect older men and DO what they tell you to do, the dad probably decided to give the girl back to the kidnaper and the mom couldn’t do anything about it but accept it because SHE IS A WOMAN and she CAN NOT argue with her husband and other men in the family. If she talks back or disobeys she can be beaten or anyways, the men can just bring the girl back to the kidnaper’s house forcefully even if the mother is against. Anyways, I can guarantee you that this mom wasn’t happy about giving her daughter back autherwise they wouldn’t have even brought her home in first place. She just had to accept it because she’s a woman and she can not do anything because men decide and she has to obey. No one can understand her sorrow except those who went through the same thing. That thing happened to my aunt, she was kidnapped and run away but her uncle forced her to get married to her kidnapper whom she didn’t even knew.
She keep screaming mom, and every time she got more desperate. I thought I was watching a horror movie because this is sick.
oh no Dude what the fuck is wrong with you?
Same
@oh no please say sike
@oh no *please say sike.*
oh no just stop please
How did you guys get married?
Them: "Stockholm Syndrome"
Exactly ..😢
As someone who watches videos with cc enabled, I'd really appreciate if you didn't cover english subtitles of people speaking kyrgyz with the "[speaking foreign language]" cc. Very annoying
**Girl gets kidnapped**
People around: 😂🤣😅
yea, that was the sickening part to watch
In America the response would be 👱🏻♀️🏃🏼♂️🚔💀
@@Christarfire 🔫
Well they think it’s “traditional” so I bet that other people would even give a damn.
**Girl gets kidnapped**
People around : Oh, what a cute couple.
This entire country is one big case of the Stockholm Syndrome
Except the girls are left traumatized, and usually unhappy
Heeeeey, wtf I live in this country and how u see it happens in villages and loweducated ppl
@@jikasay3820 Just because you see a happening doesn't mean it's good. And what you said wasn't even a proper sentence.
@@kiml1226 He was saying that it only happens among uneducated people and people in the countryside.
@@kiml1226 Yes Im also from Kirghizistan, but saying that all ppl from the country are bad because of an old tradition done by very few idiots is wrong. Its like 1 to 3% population doing this today. Its sad because its also happened to my aunty when she was young, but my grandparents were able to stop them.
How the hell is someone a bride-kidnapping expert
I heard this was a common tradition back in the cowboy days at Northern Mexico. My grandma was kidnapped once and had a baby from a runaway guy, she never saw him again, that baby is my aunt and she looks slightly different than my mom and the other siblings
That’s just rape not forced marriage
@@graceg3250excuse me 'JUST' rape? Are you serious?
Normal men: *gets down on one knee*
These men: hippity hoppity you are now my property
so when these guys do it its "Culture" but when I do it for fun its rape and homicide
Oh my god is that a Boys reference? Mully/Juicy/Smashing
@@lolerzlost6475 ummmm sir💀💀😭
Based
*BRITIAN wants to know your location!!
The worst part for me is their laughing at the crying and struggling of the “bride”
The worst part is how the mother whose daughter commited suicide, gave her daughter BACK to the kidnappers. What a fckin idiot.
Grubby bum yeah I was thinking the same thing she acting like it was there fault she committed suicide but if they would have just ignored there “cousins” and took there daughter back she wouldn’t of hanged herself
@@grubbybum3614 Honestly, when you live within a culture, you think in the terms that culture gives you. She probably really hoped it'd turn out well, only getting a reality check when it was forced upon her.
Cause if they say yes their desperate and if they say no they’re innocent
I thought it was stupid too, but perhaps the pressure is some such it could affect their living?
Bride’s grandma: You’re gonna let her finish school, right?
Groom’s family: ehe
😭
you have done a great job documenting this but it made me so deeply disturbed because of how raw and real this is. I am sorry I have a sensitive heart, so I could not finish the video. Thank you for bringing this in the light.
I did some research , this practice Does not existe anymore , iT only existed in some small villages in the first place . But now it doesn't , so pls just be happy , and calme you sensitive Heart ❤❤❤.
Thank you for this, I have a sensitive heart too and my whole week was about to be ruined because of this video 😭
*"MAMA"* that one repeated word was truly heartbreaking
You might not know but in case of arranged marriage girls cried a lot too. Just like that....sometimes for months
Red October woah chill dude
@@sozibrahman8504 but its not ok to kidnap though
@@rouvin9213 bug off weird guy
xepseL thanks for getting that bug off me
How to visit Kyrgyzstan as a female tourist:
-Dont visit Kyrgyzstan as a female tourist
Government: Ah! this tradition is bringing tourism down. Lets put a stop to it.
Me: Ya'll clowns but thats a win.
Just say : "i have hiv"
See one way to get this tradition stop is to twist into something similar.
Where instead of kidnapping, the wife gets picked up in a nice vehicle and she voluntarily gets in. Making the Guy look like the biggest badass in the village and making it go viral.
Essentially, the man courts the woman so much so to the point she that does want to get married to him. So they both plan it out.
Then the guy simply arrives to, "steal the bride", but everybody will be in awe as the guy sings a song or something and she voluntarily gets in happily with no assistance.
The whole town will be like no F*cking way and all the guys will want to do the same as a sort of subliminal dick measuring contest.
The problem is that she needs to go into hiding until the time they planned out to stop the chance of having some guy actually kidnap her.
Just don't be attractive and be Christian
Or u can go with a man
“No means yes , and yes means yes
That’s our mentality “
😎🤓
I watched a Japanese reality show called Ainori. It’s about Japanese singles who travel across certain countries and fall in love. One of their trips was in Kyrgyzstan. The cast members learned about bride kidnapping and they used this video as an example. They downplayed it and made it seem as if she knew what was happening and was a willing participant. When they showed how she was doing at that point in time (2018) she said that she was very happy and was in love with her husband. Despite her saying that, seeing that happen and hearing her call out to her mom and cry while everyone around her is laughing just really makes me sick to my stomach
Imagine getting recorded for the whole world to see during the most humiliating and demeaning moment of your whole life
Ana.C.R And imagine being proud of the kidnapping you just committed just because you think it’s a spiritual event. This is why civilization has rejected religion based government.
But at the same time this is to spread awareness, they wouldn't agree to record this if the dude and the camera guy had stopped them, so what could they do? They'll just kidnap her again while refusing to record this.
you are an idiot! that was the happiest day of her life
The atrocity of this is not the recording of it.
I don't need to imagine. Just wait til I finally post that shit.
To hell with such traditions. This is torture!
@@vegasfinest702 Well, there are MANY other women who would NOT like to be kidnapped as a bride against their will.
Badr eddin lmao well go change the world lmao there’s a lot of lonely woman everywhere lol who ever makes it to the big time coming from small ass places like this?! Lol who or how many become doctors or lawyers?! Lmao keep it real that’s why she expected and she was dating the guy!!! What the fuck ever go save the world kid go save all the girls over there idiot they can’t help themselves
It is not everywhere. This is not a tradition !
IvyMe no way you’re a woman
DeCiPhErIng GAmiNg every country has its own problems, believe me when I say that you're embarrassing yourself by downgrading others.
Imagine you get kidnapped in broad daylight with lots of people watching and laughing.
Why would any parent give their child to someone who took her so violently in the middle of the night and did such awful things to her ?
I think the worst part is all her family and neighbours just laughing as she's dragged away screaming. Yikes.
They need to stop this stupid tradition
@@erdenebolor.e yes fuck those tradition
She was happy too
Yep
@@erdenebolor.e make them...
I'm from Kyrgyzstan. I am Kyrgyz. This is a very wild tradition that is disappearing because girls and women no longer want to tolerate it in our country! And I'm glad of that. They also tried to steal me, but I fought with everyone and still left. I am confident that this cruel tradition will soon disappear.
I'm so happy you fought and resisted pls don't forget that it's not part of Islam itself only a toxic tradition
Much love from a Muslim South African💞
Thank god you made it. Hope you can live a happy life after this.
Greetings from Malaysia
U must reserve the tradition.. It is very sweet and unique
@@firelord1202 No, this tradition is disgusting.
👏👏😇😇
The first instinct to call for mum is always devastating and heart wrenching to hear. Especially knowing the mum can’t do anything to help out, when there own family members brainwash them into this “tradition”.
Iam muslim and i didn't saw any of islamic thing in there traditions
Iam surprised that there are some people calling themselves maslims and do such a thing in addition to drinking alcohol and .......🙄🙄🙄🙄
So all these guys will let their sisters be kidnapped like this.
*GREAT*
Yeah apparently their tradition is like a double edge sword that also can hurt them. For example remember that one dude that kidnaps some person sister and that dude get revenge by kidnapping the kidnapper sister as well and they gonna be like let call it a even.
If someone walked to me and said,
"Look sir I kidnapped your daughter with the intent to marry her but I brought food to celebrate with you."
I'd just punch him in the nose and call the cops.
@@timesweeper9778 but Kyrgyzstan its kinda like legal over there........unless you move out there....
@@timesweeper9778 I'd do way more than punch someone if my daughter was taken with the intent of marriage and rape.
@@Mr-Ad-196 I was speaking metaphorically. Also technically it's not legal there either. It's a culture thing not really a legal.
Im just happy I don't live there.
Dont call this crime a "tradition" this is absolutely horrifying
Just because it’s a crime doesn’t mean it isn’t tradition
@@thebasado4524 LMFAO.
@@captainjackpugh6050
"Tradition" doesn't always mean "far-sighted".
The Basado 😂😂👌🏾
What a coincidence, krygystans and I share the same “hobby"
I hate this older woman supporting this terrible tradition!!! It’s like “it happened to me-so u go through it too”!!! They are heartless
The gaslighting from the family just makes this 5x worse that it already is
"Be careful not ro let her run anyway" and then they *laugh* ,
At this point, im so *disgust*
JenLisa is da thing me too i’ve heard about this but I didnt actually think they still do this
Dr Agam You’re saying that as if people WANT to get kidnapped.
@Dr Agam Your mom didn't wait 9 months for you to come out and say this shit
Dr Agam I’m pretty sure she doesn’t want to be kidnapped
@Dr Agam You're disgusting
And here I thought arranged marriages were bad.
Underground Tech they are both awful in different ways
I think you guys are confusing arranged with forced. Arranged marriage needs consent from both the man and the woman
Stealin' pussies for masturb lol wtf!?
Underground Tech
Ok
I feel like the term Arranged is being misunderstood. The process works by both parents of the two bringing the two lovers together. If the two lovers love each other then the marriage proceeds. Nowadays the western thinks arranged is forced when it true meaning isn’t.
Can we get an update on the bride and groom? Whether she got to pursue Law or at the least finished school?
What’s crazy is the girls friend was even scared by the group of men. When they surrounded her to ask where her friend will be she backed away as if they were gonna kidnap her
"I'm dating someone" "no you're not! No one dates"
This is messed up
That one got me too. She was a beautiful girl I felt so sorry for her.
The fact that I cannot help them makes me sad
Glad the tradition is dead.
@@daev13k oh yes ? that such a suck tradition
@@callmerespect9177 Tradition is dead. Kyrgyzstan is a wonderful country without dumb tradition. This Video is propaganda. The tradition was never like shown in the Video.
we gon ignore the fact that her best friend helped the guys kidnap her..??
Thats some Et tu, Brute shit right there
It's so fucked that women help men do this...
It's absurdly SHIT how women in the groom's family talk to the girls to marry them and that they'll be happy
It was all staged .
Both the boy and the girl were dating at that time
The friend was being towered over by several men who expressed intent to attack a person
@@edsher7679 So people who are dating can't abuse?
This has nothing to do with islam. Actually this is forbidden in islam and they do so much stuff that are haram jn islam they drink vodka like water while drinking any sort of alcohol is as it is widely known strictly forbidden also touching a non mahrim man or women is also forbidden let alone the scene we have watched where more than one man was touching the girl and here naked legs (which is also a sin since that is clearly not a hijab) multiple times. And marrying someone without their consent is also not allowed. So yes as the professor said this is a violation of islam. May Allah guide them to quite these traditions and follow the right path
love does not stem from kidnapping. A consensual, dignified, mature relationship cannot bloom from a couple that was created as a result of violence, not as one where the victim calls for something that was forcibly taken away from her and not one where the girls' screaming, kicking and protests are invalid.
2013: I'm going to go kidnap my wife!
2033: Why did all the women leave our country?
They’re gonna get their karma. Like China men who can’t find the brides because they’re killing the girl babies.
@Red October its not even about being western its just knowing what morally good and whats not. This? Not it. Pedophilia is looked down upon and bullshit if you think they dont do that shit just as much in other countries but western countries speak about issues. I wasnt even born in the west but I'm aware of issues.
@Red October calm down western culture is different than this brutall culture. Even Saudi Arabia treat girls better than that
Fun memes. Well we got law against kidnapping brides in 2013. Educate yourself 🤷🏾♀️
@@dionysusswine60 word? Thats good
Possibly the dumbest tradition I've ever seen.
RoBoVader especially since this “tradition” was made up to escape arranged marriages and basically became what it was trying to escape
@Lzb Lmvm but you're not haha
its not that dumb once you see women dying and suffering with it ...ITS EVIL ....this was also an ancient Indian practice stated in mahabharata but it was done from an arena where a bride was choose from a several contenders ...but a jerk could practise power and fantasy weapons..to kidnap the bride by force ...only if he proves to be stronger !
Thats a part of nomadic cultures.
Or the dunbest people ever seen
15:24 they’re ignoring her and just laughing and smiling :-(
{13:04 13:20 } and The men where laughing too, even the bystanders.. ( 12:50 12:52 )
Everyone in the video was literally laughing at the scared girl being kidnapped and crying.
In our culture we must defend and protect our family and sisters particularly at any cost , in their culture they ignore their sister while crying, very strange thing
Just got through the first few seconds and it's already so horrible with the animal abuse. I can't imagine the rest of the documentary.
Yeah :(
Animal abuse? their eating the sheep not wasting it, plus yu eat meat aswell in the west dont you?
Exactly! Nobody talks about this :(
@@eonthinker100yrago8 the game they were playing at the start of the video, idiot
This is difficult to watch..
ikr
Just be thankful you don't live there
I never knew how Stockholm syndrome works but now I do. smh if I had a daughter, kidnapping and psycho-ING by other oppressed women is not seduction and romance.
Nigel, I wonder where the feminists are in these situations. I mean these video clearly shows that there are women who get kidnapped and are forced to get marry, which is REAL oppression btw , meanwhile in the West you will see feminists claiming that women are being "oppressed" because they can't show their nipples in public. Like WTF?
Honestly, it is very difficult to watch
lesson learned: never visit krygyztan if u are a girl.
This has become extinct, trust me. I live here.
They don't touch foreigners. Don't worry.
It is a dying tradition that sometimes happens on rural areas and countrysides. And if they ever kidnapped someone of foreign status, the abductee is protected by international laws.
Like the tourist will speak their language? They have _CLASS_ they need to have communication at some point of time and there are risks aswell.
@@erzhanjanuzakov7464 what is life like in kyrgyzstan? how much internet access do you get?
The guy was saying: if she cries, she'll be happy after she married. Imagine if one of these kidnaped brides doesn't cry and is deathly calm. Looks at each of them and promises that none will live to see their wedding day, and does it.
The elder women telling her to calm down is actually disgusting
imagine being the popular beauty and everyone trying to kidnap you #neversafe
Your life wouldn't change.
+Chraman damn that line even got my pants off
+Gayle G. Pretty sure that place looked like village with no police around. They would be prosecuted if that was done in the city
+Chraman ROASTED
Well the beauty would only be kidnapped once because then she would be married & no one else would try to kidnap her. So she would be safe :-)
“All girls must get married”
“Calm down, you’ll be happy”
Words cannot describe how thankful I am to not have to go through this.
I feel so so bad for her.😭
Come down you happy 😱
TheIntrovertedGiraffe me too😞🥺😭😭
Right? I have no idea what I'd do if I was in that situation. But at least that girl did want to marry that man, even if it wasn't right there and then. I feel worse for the others who are kidnapped by men they don't want and forcefully married and raped.
Kixi They have no choice but to agree. They are shunned by their entire community if the disgusting ritual is completed and they refuse to play happy families.
It's either play along or be homeless/honour killed.
This is beyond vile. Where are NATO when human rights abuses like this take place? The first women is a perfect example of what Stockholm syndrome looks like.
Kixi I kill the groom idc self defense
Nah Nazgûl done her friends dirty smh her own friend makes me sick
The way she was screaming mom ! Im heartbroken 😢
"girls will be happy if they marry crying" wtf
Shitty justification I guess.
The bride looks sick and exhausted, like she's about to cry in every scene
scareface936 Ew stop being immature please
broadcast star Smh.....Imagine being married to someone for 12 years and then all the sudden they want a divorce. Alimony and half of everything you worked so hard for goes to them....and they didn’t contribute to any of your weath.....that’s scary.
scareface936 12 years in a marriage sounds like a good couple to me also it’s better then being forced against your will and shoved into a car by 5 grown men saying it’ll be okay.
@@THELASTREALKING93 ...i dont know. I've heard this arguement made a lot of times and it always confused me. And i always ask them this quiestion-"Do you believe men and women should be given equal opportunities in life,career wise, job wise,etc"
Because if you dont think that women should be paid the same as men for the same job, then you dont get to make that arguement. A lot of women choose to quit their jobs and stay at home to raise their kids,in which case they are trusting their husbands to take care of them financially.
Now if the man decided he wanted to divorce his wife, but the wife had not been to work in years cause she was busy taking care of him and his wife, she would not have the financial stability to live a normal life.
I agree that there are a lot of gold diging women who are terribe people. But the same goes for men. There are men who are terrible people who would do unspeakable things to women(dont deny it, )
and also, there is also the problem of maternity leave. Do you have any idea what kind of toll pregnancy takes on womens bodies?? And now imagine having to go back to work before youre fully recovered.
P.S, if she wants a divorce after putting up with him for 12 years, then theres prolly something else to it
People looking at how the bride was captured and smiling is so terrific. People make fun of it literally. They are just so insane. This country is hell