@@DawidDoesTechStuff your scoring is more entertaining then the reviewers that i am seeing. keep up a sarcastic, bow, do smt weird to the prebuilt that is dumb and stupid
That really bothers me how they do that.. especially with Ryzen systems. It can't be adding very much cost to use 2x4GB instead of 1x8GB . Then when you do want to upgrade you have to buy 2 sticks anyway. Hopefully at the very least they mention 1 stick in the specs.
@@fffrrraannkk The real reason that 8g sticks are cheaper amd more avaliable than 2*4 kits. And 8g is pretty much the minimum config for a functinal gaming prebuilt. You either order 16-32, in tzhe case where you are planning to use it for games with the stock config, pr you buy the least expesive RAM option and replace the RAM with a decent kit.
Seeing this video resulted in 2 things: 1). Reminded me of how much I miss Top Gear 2). Informing me of a genre I didn't know I needed but now can't live without = Top Gear style nonsense head-to-head tech competitions.
I have spent the last 3 weeks watching everything you have posted. You , my good sir, are fantastic. 10/10 would recommend. I love your energy, your humor, and your technical information. Your channel is great. Thank you. :)
At the start of the video I thought "Oh no, Dawid's sarcasm is going to be held back by complainers in the youtube comments!" and then BAM! "MINUS 200 POINTS" and I had a sudden and wonderful sigh of relief as well as a good chuckle lol
It's frankly impressive how a dell prebuilt achieves the same high performance score as a custom built PC would! I'm talking about the portability score.
Sorry but no. I recently built a much superior system with a i7 10700k (with an AIO)/6600XT/16GB DDR4 3200Mhz(2x8GB)/256+1TB m.2 NVME's with custom heatsinks and a ASUS Z590 TUF GAMING PLUS motherboard for just a little over 1.1k which is not only hugely superior hardware wise - it's also smaller, runs much cooler, looks better and is all around more futureproof as nothing is proprietary. No - this Dell comes nowhere close to a decent quality custom built in the same price range. It's just overpriced garbage as Dell Alienware always is.
Not that you would, but please don’t change your sarcasm & jokes. One of my favorite things that keeps me coming back to your videos! It’s pretty easy to tell when you’re being sarcastic :)
David you need to try the laptop hoocked up to an external display because laptop without a mux switch have a really strange limit on the GPU. I have a rog with a 2060 and plugging it in a monitor gets the spu usage from 50 to 100
@@kypdurron I think that is because in laptops without mux switches the processing power needs to pass through the igpu before the display. This adds even a lot of latency
I could be wrong, but I feel like the laptop won the noise test. The tone of the alienware seems like it would still be heard through headphones, while the laptop’s tone might not.
I was thinking the same thing. The AW sound almost sounded like a ground loop feedback. This is where you can tell the difference between a cheap MB and fans and good ones.
1:03 New Grading System 1:51 Build Quality 2:34 Upgradeability 4:09 Possessed by Alma 7:35 Bloatware 8:10 Portability 9:09 Thermals and Noise 9:56 Gaming Performance 13:29 Price 14:16 Final Score
Ive eaten enough dirt and the dent in my head keeps growing that the simple numbers are nice, also Alienware is pretty bad for software glitches, both my alienwares have rgb glitching witch makes it not work half the time, the fan controller also likes to reset and set the fans to full speed all the time, drivers a nightmare and Alienware fx is shit tier at best.
So, when alienware xase makes weird noise when closing, but rog laptop makes terrible noce when oppening, laptop gets +1 point but alienware -1 point, good decision my guy
6:08 this is due to the poor bios installed on the system by default, dell has realized this and has made a downloadable bios update that fixes everything.
so i had a version of this laptop that had the Ryzen 7 4800 and the RTX 2060 in it for a while. I noticed the bottleneck too with the built in display. Figured out that the built in display uses the on board graphics built into the Ryzen processor as a kind of scaler. It pushes video through the RTX 2060 then through the Ryzen VEGA video to be displayed on the built in screen. If you use an external monitor through the Type C port, you should get better FPS and a more consistent performance through the GPU as it will no longer go through the VEGA graphics chip.
I've noticed the same thing with an Intel laptop - the graphics go through the main GPU, then through the Intel iGPU to the laptop's screen. The laptop seems much more powerful when displaying on my TV.
it's OPTIMUS in effect..... pretty much standard for years now, hence why MUX switches have become popular in recent times if the display ports are directly hooked to the dGPU then it will bipass the iGPU
If your PC refuses to boot after messing with ram always reset the CMOS. You'll save yourself hours of messing with things that work. It's usually bios that messes up when something with RAM is changed.
That's what I did. The chip shortage doesn't seem to be messing with laptop prices as much. Got razer with i7 and 2080 super for 1500. Even got a chair and a bag thrown in
@@KatoJac Fax. If you're used to game with a monitor, a gtx 1660ti and i7 laptop is a plausible buy then buy a 240hz monitor. You may spend around 900 too 1100 dollars.
I got the rog with a 5900hx and 3050ti for $1450 CAD. it's such a boss system, thermals are phenomenal. Play a lot of older games and it crushes them with excellent thermals.
Dawid, resetting the CMOS should ALWAYS be the very FIRST thing you do when any pc fails to boot after altering the ram in any way. For this reason I am over ruling your 200 point deduction on the Alienware, and thus awarding it the win here. JS NK
You shouldn't disregard the OEM provided veneril disease in laptops. Its kinda crucial to most functions including RGB controls and even performance controls. I don't know if you used Turbo mode in the video, but if not, you could get better performance on the laptop, because Turbo mode usually OCs the GPU a little and increases the CPU TDP budget as well.
I may be wrong, but from my experience with gaming laptops, hearing those fans they sounded like they were maxed out the way they are on the highest laptop setting.
Ew... Light Wings... company that makes quality fans decided to go the way of kiddie lights. Hope Noctua won't go the same path. I'll be holding onto my Silent Wings 3.
Just a note on McAfee removal: McAfee themselves now offer their own removal tool that, at least in my experience, completely nukes it from existence (though this was in a nonOEM bloatware scenario with Adobe). Link below: download.mcafee.com/molbin/iss-loc/SupportTools/MCPR/MCPR.exe
Thanks for this! I find it hilarious that their software is so difficult to purge from a system that they needed to make their own piece of software to get rid of it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff "McAfee is like the mob; you pay for "protection", don't act surprised when you have an "accident" after you don't pay, and there's no easy way of getting rid of them short of a fresh start."
Every Dawid video seems so satirical and calm at the same time. Always a joy watching your videos. Especially even though you get some really amazing sponsors and tech you love to post unique and "cheap" tech to review and use in videos which I've found many other popular tech channels don't do at all nowadays.
5:20 When you overclock RAM or even just clock it to it's rating, your system can sometimes have a panic attack. When this happens the system either doesn't boot, post, or even turn on. This happened to me when I thought I had 3600MHz RAM when I really only had 3200MHz. I clocked it to 3600 and my pc bluescreened after I booted it and didn't turn on. So when this happens, CLEAR THE CMOS! There are usually two pins on your motherboard (depending on your manufacturer) that you have to jump with a metal object like a screwdriver in order to reset the CMOS. Usually it says something like BAT, JBAT, or CMOS RESET next to it. Just jump those pins with a screwdriver for about 10 seconds and all your BIOS settings will reset. Then go in and set all your customs again.
Sure, but it's a bit ODD that the CMOS was cleared and it defaulted to 3200MHz one time and 2666MHz the other. That's concerning. Having said that, I read something about UEFI being in nvRAM (non-volatile memory) but apparently some things get cleared by CMOS and some things don't. It's very confusing.
Well shitty 3600 ram is usually 3200 OC ram, check the voltage and timings on the sticker, try to run it manually at 1.3 volts or up, 1.45 is usually the max safe but you should check just in case.
@@JeskidoYT You can only overclock your hardware if it supports overclocking and if you have good cooling. Resetting the CMOS resets those overclocked settings in your BIOS back to the rated defaults for your hardware. Therefore, if you overclocked your hardware and your pc crashed and you have no way back into your operating system or your BIOS, resetting the CMOS can fix that. Then just go back into your BIOS and keep experimenting with overclocking your CPU and RAM.
@@goa141no6 No it's decent RAM. I run 32gb of Corsair vengeance RGB pro. The only thing being is that I bought a 3600MHz 16Gb 2x8Gb kit and then as a christmas gift my brother got me the same kit so I could have 32Gb of RAM but it was only rated at 3200MHz so when I installed it and tried to run the 3600MHz even with the higher voltage, it would crash so I resorted to just keeping it at 3200MHz
Hey Dawid, did you adjust the timings for the 3200mhz? The timings for 2666mhz will not work with 3200mhz at the same voltage. To know the correct timings look at the specification on the memory stick. For such a stick this would for example be: PC4 3200/19/19/19/40. The memory will run at lower timings when on 2666mhz, for example C17/17/17/35.
@@JeskidoYT Yes, but that doesn't mean the settings will work with your cpu/motherboard. You need to inform yourserlf beforehand. I recommend reading the motherboards memory compatibility list, if you want a guarantee.
Coming from an Alienware user for 4 1/2 years... Anything can beat an Alienware. They have some of the most garbage tier gaming systems I have ever seen. Poor build quality, poor gaming performance, poor thermals, and poor upgradability due to their limiting chassis. Thankfully I'm finally upgrading to something more capable in the next few months, but I can safely say I'll never purchase an Alienware product ever again.
Did David tried to manually change the ram voltage? Shitty 3200 MHz ram usually runs at 1.35 volts but maybe the system doesn't detect it, so it try to boot at 1.2 volts. Some ram will boot and promptly crash, better ram will run at 1.2 no problem, but the bottom of the barrel (OEM Crap) will usually refuse to boot.
the computers trying to troll him cause it was bored I loved that one which is why I building my own cunstom computers and thus avoid that prebuilt trolling crap
The problem with the low GPU utilisation is that those laptops do not have a mux swich (wich means the gpu routs it signal to the iGPU (wich bottlenecks the performans) to the laptop display) to prevent this with ASUS laptops u have to use a usb c dongle at the usb c port and hook up to a external display
The Xbox series X is probably twice as powerful than that AW (if not more) and at less than half the price. If you’re into gaming, have a budget less than £1200 and don’t want to build your own PC then buying a series x or ps5 is all that makes sense to me.
Alma alone earned that Like. Had a smile for the whole video, until the saga of troubleshooting that Alienware, I felt your pain. (And never stop being sarcastic :) ! )
Great video, Dawid. I burst out laughing at the "Portability" category. Clearly an impartial decision not designed to hurt the already-doomed Alienware. 🤣 Regarding the gaming performance, however, I wish you had noted the laptop frequently won in the 1% lows, especially once you made your magic upgrade. I found that quite interesting.
I bought a pc off some mom on facebook marketplace, i7 12700k and a rtx 4080, 32gb ddr5 6400mhz, with like an 360mm AIO with like a display and everything also has a 1000W psu, all for only 1100, may not be under 1000, but i mean, with those specs, doesn't really matter. According to her, her son built it, but she took it away and sold it, she had it listed for $1,500, but i bargained her down to $1,100. Also btw thats canadian dollars.
My brother has a laptop with a Ryzen 5600h and a rtx 3050, i have a desktop with a ryzen 3600 and a GTX 1650 ddr6, both with 16gb ddr4 3200. The only games he can run at more fps or at a higher quality setting are the games that actually require more than 4 gb of vram, so far every game we tested that did not need more than 4gb of vram ran better on my pc lol.
Part of the reason the 5600H is so much worse than the 5600X is because of the lower TDP, coimbined with the fact that it has 1/2 the cache. If you could get 4400 RAM it would claw back quite a bit of performance, but 4400 would also improve the 5600X
The CACHE is NOT directly comparable. You need more cache on the DESKTOP version to compensate for the fact that the I/O chiplet is seperate from the CCD chiplet (the iGPU shouldn't be using any cache during these tests either). AMD has actually discussed this very issue. The main reason is likely just a lower CPU frequency. Either temperature or power limited as a result of GPU usage?
@@photonboy999 Clock for clock, the 5800(nonX) is faster than the 5700G. If the cache didnt matter, then ther 5700G should be faster, because i can run the RAM At 4933MT/s, where as the 5800 struggles at 3933 and really prefers 3800
I think there is a optimus bottleneck in the laptop. Basically, the higher you go, the higher the optimus feature causes a bottleneck. Its caused because the dgpu's frames have to go through the igou in the 5600h which causes bottlenecks. Jarrod's tech shows this. To resolve this, you gotta bypass the optimus. There's 2 ways of doing this. Which are either using a mux switch or hooking up the laptop to a external display. So, if you hooked up the laptop to a external monitor, it should resolve the issue. Also, do test more gpu demanding games Also, the laptop ryzen 5600h is not a desktop 5600x. Its more of a mobile ryzen 5600g. And would be closer to it in performance. What is also strange is that other laptops with a 5600h and rtx 3050 seem to max out the rtx 3050. Not sure whats asus doing here. Also, that asus laptop you picked, is one of the worst laptop values out there. Infact if you picked a $1300 aorus 15p which packs a 130w rtx 3060, i7 11800h AND a 240hz 1080p panel, it would clap the alienware so hard it wouldn't even be funny. That rtx 3060 is basically the same as a desktop 3060. And of course the msi gf65 thin which costs $850 and packs a 3060 75w and i5 10500h. That would also beat the desktop alienware.
I suspect some wonky Asus software setting for CPU power. It's probably power limited and you have to unlock it in software. Could even be as simple as the Windows power plan.
@@b0ne91 Yes because the 5800h + 3060 legion has no issues matching a desktop 3060 with a 5800x. But its definitely not because the 5600h is ''weak''. I mean its zen 3. Should be around a 5600g
I picked up this laptop not too long ago, I paid for the 3050 variant but was shipped the 3060 instead. No complaints from me! Also made to sure to get the one with two sticks of 8gb ram already installed. Been a great laptop so far!
As much as the 3050 mobile card has the rt and tensor cores, the default general gaming performance is relatively poor and is almost always beaten (sometimes heavily at higher quality settings) by the 1660 ti which should not have happened. To give some idea, the 1660 ti will run BF V at 1080p close to 100fps average with Ultra settings (although this was in DX11 so I would have to find DX12 numbers to be sure). And this is with a worse CPU, so I think it is just the handicapped GPU specs causing the strange results with some games not needing the same memory bandwidth to run well (or the CPU was throttling with the rog maybe)
Dawid: "Numbers can't be sarcastic"
Also Dawid: "and for that, alienware gets -200 points"
😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff your scoring is more entertaining then the reviewers that i am seeing. keep up a sarcastic, bow, do smt weird to the prebuilt that is dumb and stupid
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yeah, please do a vid where you attempt to fix the horrible thermals and noise of the AW, I’d love to watch that struggle. 😏
it deserves that, i would have given it more like -100000 points at least... i would never buy a system that is this unstable...
numbers cant be sarcastic, but you can use them in a sarcastic way!
Dawid being sarcastic about someone saying he is too sarcastic is hilarious lol 😆
-200 points cause the computers trolling him I loved that one🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dawid's arbitrary scoring system. Clearly a 653/10 result if I ever I saw one.
5/7 comment
@@Cer049 I came here to give the EXACT SAME score! I think that's math!
I feel like Dawid should petition the UN to make it a war crime to ship gaming computers with a single 8GB stick of RAM.
It is the users who want upgrade the RAM by themselves.
You mean human rights violation?
@@ChrisDied both
That really bothers me how they do that.. especially with Ryzen systems. It can't be adding very much cost to use 2x4GB instead of 1x8GB . Then when you do want to upgrade you have to buy 2 sticks anyway.
Hopefully at the very least they mention 1 stick in the specs.
@@fffrrraannkk
The real reason that 8g sticks are cheaper amd more avaliable than 2*4 kits.
And 8g is pretty much the minimum config for a functinal gaming prebuilt.
You either order 16-32, in tzhe case where you are planning to use it for games with the stock config, pr you buy the least expesive RAM option and replace the RAM with a decent kit.
First Dawid uses Jeremy Clarkson levels of metaphors, and now he uses a TopGear scoring system. I'm sensing a pattern.
yeah, i assume he's watched some old top gear
Damn, you caught me.
I knew you where Jeremy Clarkson in disguise and with a voice changer
Seeing this video resulted in 2 things:
1). Reminded me of how much I miss Top Gear
2). Informing me of a genre I didn't know I needed but now can't live without = Top Gear style nonsense head-to-head tech competitions.
@@corsairsofnarshaddaa i still watch some of the episodes when i'm really bored
Love the Top Gear style scoring system
I was thinking the exact same thing
Nobody is better at implementing scoring systems out of spite than Top Gear was.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff a man of culture, nice
@@DawidDoesTechStuff RIP TOP GEAR!!
Lmao Top gear style 😂
LOVING the new implemented scoring system - objective and on point!
Haha! That was exactly my goal.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You're a treasure, Dawid! I'll choose you over LTT and JTC all day, erry day
I have spent the last 3 weeks watching everything you have posted. You , my good sir, are fantastic. 10/10 would recommend. I love your energy, your humor, and your technical information. Your channel is great. Thank you. :)
Damn, I’ve done the same I’ve really enjoyed all of his content
Only 10/10? Not 254/10?
Thank you very much for watching and the nice comment. Have a great day. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff lol
420/69
At the start of the video I thought "Oh no, Dawid's sarcasm is going to be held back by complainers in the youtube comments!" and then BAM! "MINUS 200 POINTS" and I had a sudden and wonderful sigh of relief as well as a good chuckle lol
lol yeah an the rest of the scores arent even disclosed lol
It's frankly impressive how a dell prebuilt achieves the same high performance score as a custom built PC would!
I'm talking about the portability score.
You cab build a PC much smaller . One that might even fit in that bag and out perform the dell . Much worse than a laptop , powerbrick and mouse tho.
Sorry but no. I recently built a much superior system with a i7 10700k (with an AIO)/6600XT/16GB DDR4 3200Mhz(2x8GB)/256+1TB m.2 NVME's with custom heatsinks and a ASUS Z590 TUF GAMING PLUS motherboard for just a little over 1.1k which is not only hugely superior hardware wise - it's also smaller, runs much cooler, looks better and is all around more futureproof as nothing is proprietary. No - this Dell comes nowhere close to a decent quality custom built in the same price range. It's just overpriced garbage as Dell Alienware always is.
You got me in the first half
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@@egonieser dell isnt overpriced garbage..
Not that you would, but please don’t change your sarcasm & jokes. One of my favorite things that keeps me coming back to your videos! It’s pretty easy to tell when you’re being sarcastic :)
yeah hes perfect just the way he is
Dell? More like Bell with the ring the Alienware makes when the side panel closes XD
Lmao
Dare we ask what you scored on Dawid's Scoring System?
"Is this car green?"
"no... no, it's red".
I got some severe "Clarkson, Hammond & May style Top Gear 'trying to do a serious roadtest'-vibe" here.
The Alienware only lost because it still has something to peel off on the side panel, that would've solved your memory issues.
That’s true. I left the bit of plastic on the right side just to give the results I was looking for.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff you rigged the deathmatch?! where is the trust Dawid?! Where. is. the. trust?!
You, sarcastic? Please
I'm a big fan of the new scoring system please keep it
yeah I love it cause the numbers can go outside the number range if something is terrible enough to justify it
David you need to try the laptop hoocked up to an external display because laptop without a mux switch have a really strange limit on the GPU. I have a rog with a 2060 and plugging it in a monitor gets the spu usage from 50 to 100
I was going to say the same, the weird GPU usage is probably a bottleneck from the Copy Engine of the integrated graphic card...
@@kypdurron I think that is because in laptops without mux switches the processing power needs to pass through the igpu before the display. This adds even a lot of latency
I could be wrong, but I feel like the laptop won the noise test. The tone of the alienware seems like it would still be heard through headphones, while the laptop’s tone might not.
I was thinking the same thing. The AW sound almost sounded like a ground loop feedback. This is where you can tell the difference between a cheap MB and fans and good ones.
1:03 New Grading System
1:51 Build Quality
2:34 Upgradeability
4:09 Possessed by Alma
7:35 Bloatware
8:10 Portability
9:09 Thermals and Noise
9:56 Gaming Performance
13:29 Price
14:16 Final Score
Neat
This is the type of consumer oriented content I have been looking for
The scoring system is still way more accurate than UserBenchmark's system
Ive eaten enough dirt and the dent in my head keeps growing that the simple numbers are nice, also Alienware is pretty bad for software glitches, both my alienwares have rgb glitching witch makes it not work half the time, the fan controller also likes to reset and set the fans to full speed all the time, drivers a nightmare and Alienware fx is shit tier at best.
ALMAAAAAA STOOOOP
So, when alienware xase makes weird noise when closing, but rog laptop makes terrible noce when oppening, laptop gets +1 point but alienware -1 point, good decision my guy
6:08 this is due to the poor bios installed on the system by default, dell has realized this and has made a downloadable bios update that fixes everything.
Even Dell's best BIOS is mediocre compared to the rest of the industry
wow never been this early
so i had a version of this laptop that had the Ryzen 7 4800 and the RTX 2060 in it for a while. I noticed the bottleneck too with the built in display. Figured out that the built in display uses the on board graphics built into the Ryzen processor as a kind of scaler. It pushes video through the RTX 2060 then through the Ryzen VEGA video to be displayed on the built in screen. If you use an external monitor through the Type C port, you should get better FPS and a more consistent performance through the GPU as it will no longer go through the VEGA graphics chip.
I've noticed the same thing with an Intel laptop - the graphics go through the main GPU, then through the Intel iGPU to the laptop's screen. The laptop seems much more powerful when displaying on my TV.
it's OPTIMUS in effect..... pretty much standard for years now, hence why MUX switches have become popular in recent times
if the display ports are directly hooked to the dGPU then it will bipass the iGPU
If your PC refuses to boot after messing with ram always reset the CMOS. You'll save yourself hours of messing with things that work.
It's usually bios that messes up when something with RAM is changed.
TLDW: With this crazy GPU crisis, buying a laptop is much better!!
That's what I did. The chip shortage doesn't seem to be messing with laptop prices as much. Got razer with i7 and 2080 super for 1500. Even got a chair and a bag thrown in
@@sillysailor5932 And the biggest plus is that you can bring it anywhere. Way better value.
@@KatoJac Fax. If you're used to game with a monitor, a gtx 1660ti and i7 laptop is a plausible buy then buy a 240hz monitor. You may spend around 900 too 1100 dollars.
This is what i did
I got the rog with a 5900hx and 3050ti for $1450 CAD. it's such a boss system, thermals are phenomenal. Play a lot of older games and it crushes them with excellent thermals.
Although I appreciate a sexy numerical system as much as the next guy. It is the witty remarks and sarcasm that keep me coming back!
Really enjoying this new scoring system, it just makes so much sense! Keep it going Dawid, I think everyone will agree with me on this.
Dawid, resetting the CMOS should ALWAYS be the very FIRST thing you do when any pc fails to boot after altering the ram in any way. For this reason I am over ruling your 200 point deduction on the Alienware, and thus awarding it the win here. JS NK
You shouldn't disregard the OEM provided veneril disease in laptops. Its kinda crucial to most functions including RGB controls and even performance controls.
I don't know if you used Turbo mode in the video, but if not, you could get better performance on the laptop, because Turbo mode usually OCs the GPU a little and increases the CPU TDP budget as well.
I may be wrong, but from my experience with gaming laptops, hearing those fans they sounded like they were maxed out the way they are on the highest laptop setting.
Ew... Light Wings... company that makes quality fans decided to go the way of kiddie lights. Hope Noctua won't go the same path. I'll be holding onto my Silent Wings 3.
Just a note on McAfee removal: McAfee themselves now offer their own removal tool that, at least in my experience, completely nukes it from existence (though this was in a nonOEM bloatware scenario with Adobe). Link below:
download.mcafee.com/molbin/iss-loc/SupportTools/MCPR/MCPR.exe
Just nuke the entire OS with a clean Windows ISO.
Thanks for this! I find it hilarious that their software is so difficult to purge from a system that they needed to make their own piece of software to get rid of it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff "McAfee is like the mob; you pay for "protection", don't act surprised when you have an "accident" after you don't pay, and there's no easy way of getting rid of them short of a fresh start."
This subject always brings to mind John McAfee's 2013 TH-cam video about removing this software for me. (You can look it up if you haven't seen it.)
I just always reinstall the OS when I get a new PC. Download my drivers in advance to new USB stick from another PC.
Every Dawid video seems so satirical and calm at the same time. Always a joy watching your videos. Especially even though you get some really amazing sponsors and tech you love to post unique and "cheap" tech to review and use in videos which I've found many other popular tech channels don't do at all nowadays.
Kinda bummed Dawid didn't get to say 'Linoooooode' today
Nice video, for next time I would go for a CMOS reset strait away, if swapping ram doesn't work ;)
Wow the alienware is horribly priced.
5:20
When you overclock RAM or even just clock it to it's rating, your system can sometimes have a panic attack. When this happens the system either doesn't boot, post, or even turn on. This happened to me when I thought I had 3600MHz RAM when I really only had 3200MHz. I clocked it to 3600 and my pc bluescreened after I booted it and didn't turn on. So when this happens, CLEAR THE CMOS! There are usually two pins on your motherboard (depending on your manufacturer) that you have to jump with a metal object like a screwdriver in order to reset the CMOS. Usually it says something like BAT, JBAT, or CMOS RESET next to it. Just jump those pins with a screwdriver for about 10 seconds and all your BIOS settings will reset. Then go in and set all your customs again.
Sure, but it's a bit ODD that the CMOS was cleared and it defaulted to 3200MHz one time and 2666MHz the other. That's concerning. Having said that, I read something about UEFI being in nvRAM (non-volatile memory) but apparently some things get cleared by CMOS and some things don't. It's very confusing.
Well shitty 3600 ram is usually 3200 OC ram, check the voltage and timings on the sticker, try to run it manually at 1.3 volts or up, 1.45 is usually the max safe but you should check just in case.
But why would the CMOS keep resetting back the settings and prevent you from overclocking?
@@JeskidoYT You can only overclock your hardware if it supports overclocking and if you have good cooling. Resetting the CMOS resets those overclocked settings in your BIOS back to the rated defaults for your hardware. Therefore, if you overclocked your hardware and your pc crashed and you have no way back into your operating system or your BIOS, resetting the CMOS can fix that. Then just go back into your BIOS and keep experimenting with overclocking your CPU and RAM.
@@goa141no6 No it's decent RAM. I run 32gb of Corsair vengeance RGB pro. The only thing being is that I bought a 3600MHz 16Gb 2x8Gb kit and then as a christmas gift my brother got me the same kit so I could have 32Gb of RAM but it was only rated at 3200MHz so when I installed it and tried to run the 3600MHz even with the higher voltage, it would crash so I resorted to just keeping it at 3200MHz
Dawid wins husband of the year award because after I cleaned this bad boy he took me to see Dua Lipa 🤣 winning brownie points for days.
I love his content if is so fun to watch
*LMAO*
Made my day! The video was both informative and entertaining. I give Dawid a 2.5 out of 10! (Hey that's really good...)
Hey Dawid, did you adjust the timings for the 3200mhz? The timings for 2666mhz will not work with 3200mhz at the same voltage. To know the correct timings look at the specification on the memory stick. For such a stick this would for example be: PC4 3200/19/19/19/40. The memory will run at lower timings when on 2666mhz, for example C17/17/17/35.
But with RAM with XMP, are those timings certified to work?
@@JeskidoYT Yes, but that doesn't mean the settings will work with your cpu/motherboard. You need to inform yourserlf beforehand. I recommend reading the motherboards memory compatibility list, if you want a guarantee.
Coming from an Alienware user for 4 1/2 years... Anything can beat an Alienware. They have some of the most garbage tier gaming systems I have ever seen. Poor build quality, poor gaming performance, poor thermals, and poor upgradability due to their limiting chassis. Thankfully I'm finally upgrading to something more capable in the next few months, but I can safely say I'll never purchase an Alienware product ever again.
Dawid youre content's always amazing, keep doing your thing!
Did David tried to manually change the ram voltage? Shitty 3200 MHz ram usually runs at 1.35 volts but maybe the system doesn't detect it, so it try to boot at 1.2 volts. Some ram will boot and promptly crash, better ram will run at 1.2 no problem, but the bottom of the barrel (OEM Crap) will usually refuse to boot.
The ram speed story is 100% relatable and I loved it
the computers trying to troll him cause it was bored I loved that one which is why I building my own cunstom computers and thus avoid that prebuilt trolling crap
6:36 - because you are trying to run it on 3200mhz with 1.25V... You need 1.35V for any modern DDR4 ram to work on it's XMP-rated speed. Dude.
The problem with the low GPU utilisation is that those laptops do not have a mux swich (wich means the gpu routs it signal to the iGPU (wich bottlenecks the performans) to the laptop display)
to prevent this with ASUS laptops u have to use a usb c dongle at the usb c port and hook up to a external display
Hmm my legion has a mux switch...
The Xbox series X is probably twice as powerful than that AW (if not more) and at less than half the price. If you’re into gaming, have a budget less than £1200 and don’t want to build your own PC then buying a series x or ps5 is all that makes sense to me.
I feel like Asus should get extra points for making you not recreate "the crying game" in the shower from the shame of buying an alienware.
People 2022 oh just build a pc which is better tbh
People 1997 to 2017 buys pre-built
The same problem happened with an a320 motherboard even if you use a 2400g. Every single time you change hardware, needs to reset CMOS
Nomal behaviour, the previous CMOS saved config may not allow for a POST.
@@killersberg1 never happened with a b350.
@@camirock17 That is not good. That might cause a no POST szenario. If you can't access the CMOS battery that will be a problem.
@@killersberg1 Never had a problem since 2017 (b350).
@@camirock17 You got lucky, I not so much.
Alma alone earned that Like. Had a smile for the whole video, until the saga of troubleshooting that Alienware, I felt your pain.
(And never stop being sarcastic :) ! )
Great video, Dawid. I burst out laughing at the "Portability" category. Clearly an impartial decision not designed to hurt the already-doomed Alienware. 🤣
Regarding the gaming performance, however, I wish you had noted the laptop frequently won in the 1% lows, especially once you made your magic upgrade. I found that quite interesting.
remember to Be Quiet
wait, this is the 2021 version of the ROG laptop?
you should make that more clear, cause they just launched their 2022 version LOL
LOL, Alma. Yea us PC builders and programmers are familiar with her. Usually solved by building a voodoo doll of your PC and saying nice things to it.
AAANA SUPPORTING FOR ROG I GUESS...........
I dunno man, I just get this weird feeling you were still being sarcastic. But then again, I don't think I'd ever want you not to be sarcastic.
There are a million tech channels on TH-cam. None make me laugh as hard as Dawid!
If you cover the bottom half of this guy's face (starting from the nose) he looks like vegan gains wife (Jasmin gains)
Can u please review the Alienware M15 R5 or 6 it doesn’t matter. Thank you
He really did not make this fair by putting an alienware prebuilt against a asus laptop☠️
Does any laptop come with an upgrade gloryhole anymore? Feels like I haven't seen one in years
Can you review a 7 year old gaming pc named “Lenovo Y40-80” pls
Only Dawid can came up with a score system to eliminate sarcasm.. and creating more sarcasm at the end!
Hey, you know hp ice blocked pc is here, what do you think about it😜??
8:50 you did it the wrong way.
you need to put the backpack into the alienware
The laptop is much better then pc cuz it is much capable and portable i will choose laptop
You are quite mad my friend, but hilariously funny 🤣🤣
Dawid: and considering number can never be sarcastic.
Me: are you serios
12:02 reason why I would think it did better in control is because control has dlss
david hi i am 5 and my dad hit me can i have a gaming laptop
I think I scored the most OP under 1k pc. I got a 12600KF 24 gigs ram, 3070 ti, 1tb storage. It was a powerspec prebuilt as an out of box deal
I bought a pc off some mom on facebook marketplace, i7 12700k and a rtx 4080, 32gb ddr5 6400mhz, with like an 360mm AIO with like a display and everything also has a 1000W psu, all for only 1100, may not be under 1000, but i mean, with those specs, doesn't really matter. According to her, her son built it, but she took it away and sold it, she had it listed for $1,500, but i bargained her down to $1,100. Also btw thats canadian dollars.
Love the top gear like scoring system and as a Brit I demand more sarcasm
My favorite TH-camr right now
You actually put the bag inside the Alienware case
I'm glad you tried the other part of the backpack.
I like that the video is basically "F*** this alienware" lol
how tf did i just realize i wasnt subscribed lol, 5head
Ok Alma is a throwback lol
Overclock the cpu with ryzen master
Of course it's not going to fit! you left the laptop in there!
how on earth does a rx 5300 outperform a rtx 3050 lol
I come for the tech review and stay for the sarcasm
My brother has a laptop with a Ryzen 5600h and a rtx 3050, i have a desktop with a ryzen 3600 and a GTX 1650 ddr6, both with 16gb ddr4 3200.
The only games he can run at more fps or at a higher quality setting are the games that actually require more than 4 gb of vram, so far every game we tested that did not need more than 4gb of vram ran better on my pc lol.
I still think that the laptop looks a bit like the legion 5 pro
Can we get a matrixx 40 review
Part of the reason the 5600H is so much worse than the 5600X is because of the lower TDP, coimbined with the fact that it has 1/2 the cache. If you could get 4400 RAM it would claw back quite a bit of performance, but 4400 would also improve the 5600X
The CACHE is NOT directly comparable. You need more cache on the DESKTOP version to compensate for the fact that the I/O chiplet is seperate from the CCD chiplet (the iGPU shouldn't be using any cache during these tests either). AMD has actually discussed this very issue. The main reason is likely just a lower CPU frequency. Either temperature or power limited as a result of GPU usage?
@@photonboy999 Clock for clock, the 5800(nonX) is faster than the 5700G. If the cache didnt matter, then ther 5700G should be faster, because i can run the RAM At 4933MT/s, where as the 5800 struggles at 3933 and really prefers 3800
Awesome video, something I have wanted to compare and see for a few months. Keep up the excellent work Dawid 👍
I think there is a optimus bottleneck in the laptop. Basically, the higher you go, the higher the optimus feature causes a bottleneck. Its caused because the dgpu's frames have to go through the igou in the 5600h which causes bottlenecks. Jarrod's tech shows this.
To resolve this, you gotta bypass the optimus. There's 2 ways of doing this. Which are either using a mux switch or hooking up the laptop to a external display. So, if you hooked up the laptop to a external monitor, it should resolve the issue. Also, do test more gpu demanding games
Also, the laptop ryzen 5600h is not a desktop 5600x. Its more of a mobile ryzen 5600g. And would be closer to it in performance. What is also strange is that other laptops with a 5600h and rtx 3050 seem to max out the rtx 3050. Not sure whats asus doing here.
Also, that asus laptop you picked, is one of the worst laptop values out there. Infact if you picked a $1300 aorus 15p which packs a 130w rtx 3060, i7 11800h AND a 240hz 1080p panel, it would clap the alienware so hard it wouldn't even be funny. That rtx 3060 is basically the same as a desktop 3060. And of course the msi gf65 thin which costs $850 and packs a 3060 75w and i5 10500h. That would also beat the desktop alienware.
I suspect some wonky Asus software setting for CPU power. It's probably power limited and you have to unlock it in software. Could even be as simple as the Windows power plan.
@@b0ne91 Yes because the 5800h + 3060 legion has no issues matching a desktop 3060 with a 5800x.
But its definitely not because the 5600h is ''weak''. I mean its zen 3. Should be around a 5600g
Man All I see are Pc’s better than mine😔
There is an issue with the laptop, the 5600H doesn't Bottleneck the 3050 Mobile. Can you test the laptop with an external monitor only?
Awww, I like your sarcasm.
Dawid's sarcasm is one of my favorite things about this channel. Anybody who hates that has bigger issues than a baseline Alienware Aurora system.
I picked up this laptop not too long ago, I paid for the 3050 variant but was shipped the 3060 instead. No complaints from me! Also made to sure to get the one with two sticks of 8gb ram already installed. Been a great laptop so far!
Good day when Dawid uploads
I love the scoring system
As much as the 3050 mobile card has the rt and tensor cores, the default general gaming performance is relatively poor and is almost always beaten (sometimes heavily at higher quality settings) by the 1660 ti which should not have happened.
To give some idea, the 1660 ti will run BF V at 1080p close to 100fps average with Ultra settings (although this was in DX11 so I would have to find DX12 numbers to be sure). And this is with a worse CPU, so I think it is just the handicapped GPU specs causing the strange results with some games not needing the same memory bandwidth to run well (or the CPU was throttling with the rog maybe)
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