We Need To Talk About Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- A full review of one of the most anticipated JRPGs of all time, the spiritual successor of Suikoden: Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. A review code was provided by 505 Games.
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Hey everybody, I just wanted to let you know that a patch has been released this morning and fixed the bug issues that I mentioned. It seems now that all characters are recruitable without any bugs or issues whatsoever. I just wanted to let you know. Hope you enjoy the game!
What about a non woke retranslation patch? did they release one of those?
@@user-ho5ry8kt4d I don't remember if it's for PC or not because I was interested in the Switch version, but if it is then that's an inevitability via mods (although the usual hosts won't allow such mods, so there will be a bit of searching involved).
@@user-ho5ry8kt4d Same here, not playing it with the current ridiculous localization. But it seems like fans are working on a full AI translation for the game which I'm looking forward to.
I just realized after beating the game, during all the war battles the soldiers that fall are all named after people that donated off kickstarter. I noticed some of the names from watching the ending. They truly went all in on this wonderful game.
Suikoden II is one of the all-time greats and this definitely looks promising. Thanks for the review!
You know, for as much love as 2 gets, it is criminal that few ever mention 1 in the same sentence which is honestly equally as good.
@@mattbrown9631Yo, 1 is dope af. That duel with Pan and your Dad is classic.
No its not stop projecting nostalgia syndrome
@@Gdg195 Oh because YOU don't like it then it's just nostalgia? Someone doesn't know how opinions and taste work. Sorry but your taste isn't "better" than anyone else's, no one is the supreme judge on what is "good" and what isn't, but fact is Suikoden II is widely considered to be one of the best RPG's ever made. If you didn't like it, fine, but to suggest anyone who likes it are blind to nostalgia is laughable.
There are some old games that I don't like that others do but I don't just say they must just like them for nostalgic reasons, they have their own reasons for enjoying what they enjoy, I'm not narcissistic enough to think I know exactly how their mind works and the reasons they enjoy it. Get over yourself.
@@Vaquix000 dont care nostalgla syndrome ls really crlnge
I hope the Devs fix all the problems.Not playing until everything is ok.Great review!
Suikoden II is one of the greatest JRPGs of all time, in my opinion, and you couldn't keep me away from this game by saying "it's so old school it doesn't have modern quality of life improvements" because neither does Suikoden II and I've found it kinda silly seeing some reviews where people complain about that. That's not a bug, to me, that's a feature.
Honestly, I would gladly take the old school feel wothout the "modern QoL improvements" if it meant seeing an actually diverse and likable roster of characters. I feel like that is a dead art form these days.
@@baalfgames5318 Absolutely agree.
I like that it went more traditional. I miss world maps and random battles.
Suikiden 2 IS the greatest jrpg of all time in my opinion and I still treasure my copy of the game. Gonna get this physically if reviews are good.
This is so well said, exactly how I feel!
Some modern gamers don't have the experience of truly old school RPGs while living in real time in the era of old school RPGs, and I accept that it changes their perception.
But dayam, it sucks to be them!! Well, except for those more vigorous younger folks who immediately feel at home getting their arse whooped. ❤
never clicked on a video so fast. great work Erick.
The game look good. And I enjoyed the old school games. I see alot of people here talking about the localization and how bad it is. I've seen some of the comparisons from the true translation to the localized version and it honestly doesn't seem that bad. However I would push back on a couple of things. The guy that worked on this game's localization said something to the effect of they need to change certain things specifically because certain Japanese sensibilities would be considered offensive in the West. First, I'm in the West and have been playing Japanese games pretty much my entire life and would prefer that if they have something offensive to say, that I get to know what it is for myself. Second these people do not actually care at all about being offensive, they do it all the time. Many of them actually seem to revel in the idea of making people feel as offended as possible. They just like being able to decide who it is ok to offend and who it is not ok to offend. They smear people and call them names all the time. They are very selective see. But for them to say that they want to shield people from offensive content is a bad joke. They don't care about that at all. If they meant what they say, then it would be universally applied. And that is definitely not what is happening. Sometimes though, these things do get a little blown out of proportion. And I still want to pick this game up. I am a sucker for old school Japanese style games.
Nah Americans are definitely more easily offended than most other cultures.
@@prisonerofwar8375 Only half of us. Look who's crying about Stellar Blade to know which half.
I've played 4½ hours of Eyuden Chronicle and I think the controversy is a nothing burger. Reads like just about most other traditional JRPGs I've played. Just like the Stellar Blade controversy is a nothing burger and simply not worth talking about.
@@micshazam842 Totally different cases. The localization is using modern western left political insults like chud, that's an objective issue. Stellar Blade is just DEI advocates melting down.
@@Vulpas It's kinda hilarious to think that Eiyuden is "woke propaganda" (as I'm sure some would put it) when there's like literally two lines in the game or something. Lines that are just stupid jokes, even. People are really looking for things to whine about.
EDIT: I'm not saying people are wrong to want more accurate translations, even though I understand and accept the purpose of localization vs plain translation. It's just all of the people make a big issue out of a couple throwaway lines that make me feel very, very tired.
I'm 6hrs into it and what a game so far it's so beautiful and well done it's definitely just like playing a Suikoden game straight up. Im so proud and happy how well this game has turned out and can't wait to spend over 100+ hrs on it 😁.
Over 100 hours... it's not that long is it? That's concerning because games that are that long always suck because they're quantity over quality.
Suikoden II is 33 and a half hours for just the main story, 52 hours for 100% completion and that game had A LOT to do and a perfectly good length for a story which doesn't drag. 100 hours would either mean the story drags on with poor pacing or there's a bunch of tedious copy paste quests to fill up time... NO THANKS. There's no reason for this game to be twice the length of suikoden II.
Edit: Thank goodness, I found it is 40/45 hours story length and 55 to 60 hours for 100%. That's MUCH better than another one of those 100 hour chores (like Persona 5)
long live jrpg fans and thanks for the review dude
Will definitely buy this! thanks for the review!
Come on, Erick. You should be used to random encounters interrupting the puzzles🙂Thank you for this great review. It is more informative than many others. As a Suikoden fan I can easily look past this game's problems, but I wish more people could do that. This game is so precious. Stay strong Rabbit and Bear. Murayama Yoshitaka and his games will live forever in our hearts
I'm afraid Eiyuden 2 won't have a writing this good because of Murayama's absence but it might reveal new talents...
Its not a great review. He did not mention a lot of issues this game have
@@claudiegarnier4560 Like what?
@@armorvil They butchered the translation anyway, there is not much left of the original Japanese writing.
@@rupeeslang5121have you played the game? Bcs if you did, you will not said something like "there is not much left of the original Japanese writing"
It has little bit of issue and cringe joke, but it is really not that bad.
I backed this thing up, real early on, $100 in. The most I've ever spent on a video game. I'm so glad I did. I didn't know it was going to be Yoshitaka Murayama's last (though he did leave a story outline for a sequel to this, apparently). It makes me happy to see this game is doing so well and getting so much attention. That bug is a HUGE letdown. Though, I will play it before they patch it simply because I know I won't get everyone on my first playthrough. I always played suikoden games blind, and didn't do character recruitment guides until a second playthrough. But if they still haven't fixed that bug by then, that would truly sour the experience.
glad this game came out finally, i'm playing the ao no kiseki sub series, so i will give it a try much later, but by your review... i can't wait to play it, thanks for the video, have a good one.
I have been looking forward to this game for a long time. Eric.. thanks for the review
I love the energy you put into voicing this review
Random encounters puts hair on your chest.
I wish it would put hair on my head.
I think ima pick this up for sure
Erick thank you so much for your review! I had seen a headline about "bugginess," and I'm glad I checked out your review to get the context! I will likely buy it soon if only to be able to track the bugfix as the green light to start playing!
We urgent need a new translation for this game.
Not really...
@@AngryCosmonaut rub a dub dub, dont be a flub.
YES, THEY DO.
@@AngryCosmonaut Chud detected
@@Shirolicious Dude, its a game for kids. Don't go in expecting all characters to be super edgy, mature, or ones you like.
@@AngryCosmonaut What? This is a game for everyone, it isn't Kirby 😂😂
I've reserve this game for a while on PS5... but man, those loading screens on every random battle it´s just wild and make me very anxious.
Imagine playing it on the switch, with 30 secs loading time on EVERY. RANDOM. BATTLE.
you get used to them, especially since there aren't many random battles
@@mnopinionit's 6 seconds on the switch
3 second loading screens are a problem now?
Are you new to gaming?
Glad I got it on Steam because I saw the graphics are slightly worse on PS5 and I didn't want longer load times
A review from an actual fan of the suikoden series. Gracias hermano 🙏
I also like the idea of different "defend" commands for different characters.
I find the shield one for squishy mages very interesting!
I like it too, except the "Provoke" and "Dodge" ones, because these rely on RNG, which also translate into nearly non-existent dodges/provokes
Will be playing very soon!
What did you think about Eiyuden Chronicle: Rising? I never saw you talk about it and am considering picking it up, seeing as it's only $4.49 for the next 3 days.
I refused to watch any other reviews of this game until you did yours. I knew your love for the suikoden series would give credibility to your opinion. Great video, worth the wait.
Completely unrelated, I use to watch this channel back in the day called misty criteria and I was wondering if that was one of your old channels because I remember the voice and it sounds kind of similar
I’ve been meaning to play Suikoden 1 and 2 for a while now. Should I play this first or does it matter?
you can play as you want. It is just a spiritual sucesor
Suikoden 1 is relatively short, I'd start there just to see if you like the style of the franchise, it's a lower time investment and still worth playing even if later entries may be better.
Suikoden 1 is shortest, but Suikoden 2 has a self contained story and it's a more memorable story. I'd go with Suikoden 2 first if I wasn't sure if I liked these games.
There is game breaking bug that wont let me continue the story. Late in game after i talk to seign on top of the castle . Then u have to talk to euma. It says on current goal you cant get to sleep. Try taking a walk. But in game its day light and nothing progresses the story. At all. I have no backup saves.
I have some doubts!
Could you talk a little about the mini card game in this game? I'm super curious and I haven't seen anyone talk about it!
When can I play the mini card game?
Last question, this is the first turn-based game I've played that doesn't show the enemies' life bar at the time of the fight, I'm completely lost without knowing if that enemy is dying or not!
How do you plan your fight without knowing the enemy's life?
The enemy's name becomes gradually more red, the closer they are to dying. But otherwise, you just sort of have to get an intution for how much health enemies have. Not that big of a problem in most cases, though I'd have prefered a precise health value or at least a meter.
Haven't found the card game yet after about 4 hours of play.
The biggest disappointment so far is that the game is extremely easy, even on hard mode.
There are a lot of RPGs that don't show the enemies' health bars. While it's annoying, I can tolerate it.
When the enemy's name is red, that means it's gonna die this turn. Usually it will take 1 or 2 attacks from this point.
Locatedlezin i really don't care to fix it sorry but it has been a very bad issues i think around last year it gotten to a point where they're are starting to use ai over actual people
I don't know if this is happening only on my ps4, but it takes 10 secs to get in and out of battle, menus also take a second. I'll have to play it on pc cause of the SSD.
I couldn’t find Rising’s review on Erick’s channel, is it worth playing it first ?
Not really. You get a couple bonuses for having a save file for the game when you start a new game in Hundred Heroes. You get a Clock Tower in your eventual base, a rune, and can carry over names of weapons for a few characters. It's safe to say you probably won't notice these bonuses if you didn't have them.
Although it's a fun game and fairly short. You'll probably go mad trying to 100% it though.... Seriously almost all the extra side quests are collection and grinding in old areas, and there's like 5+ that pop up damn near anytime you do something. It's a fun romp in the world with some extra lore thrown in.
@@zedgathegreat9122 eh that doesn’t sound like my Jam. Thanks for the reply, I’ll just focus on the main game
i have played the first hour of the game and of that first hour 50 minutes are dialogue and cutscenes i dont know if want to continue playing it.
any idea when is SUikoden remastered coming ?
waiting for the bugged to be fixed before buying it.
This year, I think summer.
Honestly, the thumbnail had me worried that this would be yet another thing I look forward to that ends up being garbage. I'm glad to see people like it, though. I plan on getting this one day.
That looks pretty cool.
I just bought this today and haven't played it yet because I had to work 😢. I'm really glad I saw your review- I was starting to get discouraged after watching a few other reviews- all of which were primarily negative. Looking forward to playing once again!
Aside from some technical issues on Switch, I think it's just a question of expectations.
It's got a pretty damn straight forward story that unfolds pretty slowly. But that's par for the course for old school JRPGs. The art direction is basic, the music sounds as expected and the combat is simple and easy. Some people would read those as good things. Just don't expect a super original game that's going to challenge you. It's more like a cosy, familiar feeling game with a bunch of characters to find and recruit. If that sounds good to you, you'll probably like it.
Curious what you think of it if you played it yet? Personally, I think it's good enough that I'm going to keep playing, but it's no masterpiece.
I'm loving this game ❤
what I love is there isn't any bloat, pacing issues or "devs not respecting the player's time" feeling that you find a lot in JRPGs nowadays : FF7R games, Octopath, the Trails, etc etc. Eiyuden grabs you and doesn't let go, like good JRPGs of old!
W0k3 translation 😢
Is it required to play and beat Eiyuden Chronicle: Rising prior to this in order to understand the whole plot or unlock something important? I heard you unlock something in Rising and it carries over to Hundred Heroes.
It's not required. Rising is more an introduction to the world, lore, and some of the characters (and will probably get you to like its main 3 chars; it certainly did for me).
What you get from transferring save is a rune that is from early mid game (honestly I didn't even use it, it wasn't that preferrable). Also the names that you give the weapons of the main 3 characters get transferred over, as well as the name you give the town specialty. You also get the tower in the town transferred over, but I have not yet made it to the town from Rising in this game, so I dont know what it does.
@@jmporkbob Thank you
i feel bad to set my expectation to has same as Suikoden 2, its not that high bar, BUT, its something like Suikoden 1 but better. maybe as same as Suikoden 5 too. the inventory system should be bigger too, but im glad they didnt share slot with accessory. also maybe some in deepth for the Rune lore? i mean what hook me with Suikoden is How powerfull true rune is. and MC usually held that 1 true rune from 27 True rune. and if you play Suikoden IV or V you know how scary True rune power is.
tho, i still waiting for the clue to recruit people, i hope they made secret / true ending if we get all the recruitable character like how Suikoden game always
Suikoden 2 is my favorite RPG of all time. I will definitely be getting this game the day it comes out for Switch.
For all those that worry about spoilers so kind of skip around in reviews he actually recommends NOT BUYING THIS GAME UNTIL IT GETS PATCHED. Right now there are bugs that prevent you from being able to recruit all characters, which can have adverse effects on other characters and the endings.
Suikoden 2 is my Favorite JRPG of All Time so seeing this JRPG from the old Suikoden Team really makes me want to Play the Game
Aight bro ive never played suikoden but when you said motoi sakuraba composed this i was already sold
I will never be OCD enough to play a game like this. It is pretty tho.
Looks good! Working through some backlog so I can wait for a bit. That will allow bug fixes and walkthroughs to come out haha.
Lots of different reviews out there that i avoided, bit i knew i was gonna watch Ericks take
So that "Do I now...?" line looked like a bug to me. Maybe the wrong string.
But hey, it's a Suikoden 2 spiritual successor! Gotta have some baffling localization issues right?
Is there a voice over or English dubbing? Or is it just text?
There's plenty of voice acting in Japanese and English, when just out and about chatting up random villagers, it's just text.
1:33 : Some people have posted side by side videos and PS5 and Steam both look roughly the same, amazing, PS4 looks like a step down from PS5/Steam but still good, Switch looks like a big step down. No major surprises with any of that, but its worth noting that if your looking for the optimal visual experience, PS5 and Steam are a noticeable step ahead of the other choices.
Switch has very bad load times and the game chugs a bit when walking through towns and dungeons.
Good to know the loading isn't just on xbox which I'm currently playing on but will replay on ps5 down the line. I'll continue to play this on gamepass until the little issues are fixed. But having a lot of fun so far!
It's a fantastic game.
I will say that the two weakest aspects of it are war scenarios and localization.
War combat is very bare bones. They could have taken inspiration from existing tactical RPGs. Maybe that's just me?
And the localization is causing controversy because of recent issues with translators (inserting their own views rather than attempt to translate it faithfully) and companies like "Sweet Baby, Inc." Those who can read and speak Japanese will have no issues.
RIP, Murayama-san.
I speak decent and read ok, so I should be fine...what was injected?
@@zaciroth There are lines where it's pretty obvious the localizers did what they wanted.
For example, there is one line where a character just says "Heeh..." but the localizers inputted dialogue. Mind you, that is one of several examples I found, and I'm 5 hours into the game. I'm the type of gamer who is okay with translations IF they stay true to the original's vision, by the way. If they take too many liberties, that's where it becomes a problem. Lian, in Japanese, is your typical upbeat female character. She's very similar to Nanami from Suikoden II. However, the localizers cranked her annoyance up to 20/10.
I recommend keeping it on Japanese dub. If you can read Japanese, I recommend keeping it on both. That way, it's as true to Murayama's vision as it gets. Perhaps that's just me, though.
thats a good comment unlike the paladins saying the game localization dont matter and anyone complaining about it is not a suikoden fan , people are so adamant on defending clearly bad localization on some aspects of the game just because they dont care about the real vision of the author as long as they can play the game in english, and those are the ones that call themselves "true fans" lmao.
@@ejpaladin to avoid bad localisation,can we put the game on japanese dub with english subtitles?
Will it be different?
@@Durinson1 If you understand Japanese, it will make a huge difference. It will be even better if you can read Japanese, so you can get the full context.
South african here 9/10 for me as fan of suikoden 2, too wholesome,happy,power of friendhip ish, a pinch of dark and edginess would be great for the next installment cant wait
the game is to sadly be avoided til they fix this terrible localization
the answer "just learn a different language" shouldn't be the answer yet here it really is, its depressing but there's no point forcing yourself through a terrible localization by egotistical localizers thinking they're writers when they aren't
Can't wait to recruit all characters from this game, and collect them like pokemon!
For some reason I see Garr as Viktor turned into a werewolf lol.
Isn't Suikoden4's Nanami also named Lyon? (Also in my playthrough she berserked her way to kill the final boss on turn 2).
You mean suikoden V ? Suikoden 4 is the one with water world
Where I goto for my rpg reviews! downloading it now although I hope that bugs fixed
I forgot to ask: I saw in your video battle footage several kind of silly enemies. Are there a lot of teddy bears and silly looking enemies in this game? That's one thing that could be a negative imo...
Nice to see that it made people happy.
Great video and i agree with your frustrations over the localizations. Its sadly been happening frequently in both japanese games and anime.
It might continue as well since companies like Namco have made statements approving of 'updating language to appeal to the west' for their games. Its annoying since i don't like english dubs and now i can't even enjoy the subtitles without it giving me western nonsense.
Heck even Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth sadly has the subtitles tied to the english dub, instead of translating the japanese if you pick japanese audio option. And you can tell the differences.
I’ve never played a game like this and the suikoden series. Everyone is mentioning that. But I wanted to try it because of the artwork. Now I can’t wait to get home just to play it. 😅
Localization always hate "grunts". Or a lot of "non worded" voice lines. At least if they are gonna put dialogue over these grunts, they should make appear as "inner monologues" if they insist of localizing a grunt into sentences if they think the english speaking people won't understand the nuance of a "grunt" or a Hrmmm...
The people in control can't process subtlety or nuance. Need character to say " I'm sad now" , indead of "sigh".
tbh if only grunts that show disappointment they just can write, "ah cmon" or "Really", or "Oh" "ahh" an empty reaction that didnt have any meaning what so ever. why game this day always like this. did i need push my self to get N3 exam just for reading JP text.
I been playing Octopath 2 since it cane out and still havent beat that grind fest. I will wait till I beat it and this goes on sale for now
On PS5 it constantly overheats my system, it's a bug in the game, sent a bug report to 505
Sorry..? Did anyone mention how the camera action looks almost inspired by that Suikoden 3 fiddly yet fascinating world? I just started the game (minutes in) and I'm over excited 😇
Im not loving it, which sucks because this has been one of my most anticipated games for years. There are way too many load screens, way too many purposeful slow downs like the forced wait when switching tabs in the menu or that 1-2 second wait between the Fight option appearing at the beginning of the turn and being able to press it. The dialogue is cringe. Random battles are practically unacceptable at this point. The camera purposefully obscures things on the map, forcing you to walk to every single corner to see if theres treasure, getting irritated to death by random battles. The combat options are extremely limited and theres a surprising sparseness to voicelines in combat.
Im only a few hours in but I am HATING it and I want to cry haha
Thanks for the great review. I’ll be waiting until it’s all patched up before playing, I think.
It's amazing,also don't listen to reviews from people who have never played a suikoden game I'd seen one saying there was no fast travel 🤦
I like sharks so I'm getting it, but I'm definitely playing it in a foreign language and just translating. Screw that localizer.
This bad localization is encouraging me to improve my Japanese knowledge.
Did anyone buy the season pass?
And if You Did is it worth it ?
This game gets a lot better mid-late game, but I really wish the re-balanced magic & hero combos to be more useful.
Only a hamdful of hero combos are more useful than just having the 2+ characters separately basic attack, and most magic spells are powerful than basic attacking too.
Magic finally started getting a bit stronger when I was about 30 hours in, and even then it was limited to a small number of spells on an even smaller number of heroes.
Francesca is truly best girl! Right from her first cutscene I knew that I would probably be keeping her in my part as often as I was able!
really love what ive seen so far.. EXCEPT the localization (ofc) they really disrespected the work of murayama yoshitaka and that disgusts me >:( since im german i hoped they wouldve orientated on the jp script but it seems like they used the abysmal eng one too D: just started ec: rising, will still play the games since everything else seems to be done right here
i need to know if there is MORE than jsut someone sneaking "Chud" in the game, I can look over that, for the gameplay and story, but if western localization is peppered in ALL through the game, i'll wait til its 10$
@WarrenRhodes-ug3kq meh, right wing males are just like left wing males, just another form of crybaby. Im saying that if it is only that one line that blew up, then it isnt a big deal, but if they woke it through the game and make all men seem stupid and weak because they are men, I'll pass.
@@TheGhostofMrArthurs I hate English localizations.
The Suikoden series is my favorite video game series ever, period. I owned and beat I-V numerous times, going back and recruiting all 108 stars of Destiny, and even tried my best to get through the DS game 😂
I downloaded this last night but I’m so excited to play a game like Suikoden again!
Still own suikoden 1&2 physical copies for the ps1. Love the second one. Looking forward to this when it goes on sale. The backlog is real!!!!
Level 5 and loving it so far. It has the vibe of Suikoden 1 & 2
Turning on or off random encounters should be an option in any modern jrpg. As you said it annoys you during puzzles and also you can do challenge runs without leveling up...
I agree, it's a necessity.
Buying it to support the devs but will have to back log it. Just finished rebirth recently and finishing up DD2. Then stellar blade next and then unicorn overlord after that.
Hoping to get to this beauty by fall lol.
I’ll wait for updated patches.
same, glad Erick mentioned some bad bugs to us, I would have been livid if a character recruitment didnt work
Load times before and after battles, bad translations, and the auto scroll skips dialogue which also makes that damn chirp noise after every press of the confirm button. A bunch of awkward small issues that can be patched for sure. Other than that this game is pure suikoden goodness, 9/10 baby
Oh no... damn Deluxe Version and me not wanting to use a guide on the first time... I already spoke with that bugged character. Well, let's cross fingers I manage to get her anyway...
Just make sure you get riufan, yalk to him in your HQ, and have him in your party when you get to Daphan.
@@Kwisatz-Chaderach Maybe no more worries are needed. Today was a patch and they announced they wanted to fix that issue (and some other things) with it. I am crossing my fingers
@SheenaTigerspielt nice. Hopefully they fixed the encounter rate bug too 😆
The only problem is the ps5 is 1080p for some reason. Maybe it’s a bug because that shouldn’t be the case.
Honestly, your opinion/review of this game is the only one that matters. Sold.
*to you.
I'm glad it lived up to the hype (bugs aside). Can't wait to one day play it myself!
3hrs in on Steam Deck and runs like a charm, seems like SD can handle it pretty well
There should be no consequences to choices made just like in real life.
People are even compiling the bad localization like with Mio gendering a Golem. internet slang like "Chud" and the lines of Francesca is way over the top compare to the JP version.
I only hope mods will save us.
@@TheRealCaptainLavender i really hope so. Like they just machine translate the Original JP lines. I don't even mind JP dub.
@@TheRealCaptainLavender Not the Discord mods, that's for sure!
Francesca's lines make me laugh 🤷♀Most people don't know Japanese and won't realize that there are differences so who cares really... This "issue" is completely overblown and doesn't impact your enjoyment.
@@armorvilmost reviewers criticism is this game is very over the top and localization is the one to blame.
Thanks Erick, I almost forgot about this. Still disappointed they never ported Suikoden 5 to any of the newer playstations.
Having been playing the crap out of Star Ocean: First Departer R and Star Ocean: Second Story R. and playing the OG Suikoden 1 and 2 games through emulation along with FF1-6, the random encounter aspect doesn't bother me at all.
Only the official Chinese translation is faithful to the Japanese dialogue, every other language uses the English mangling.
We'll have to wait for a fan patch kind of like how the PS1 Suikodens had fan patches for the localisation many years later.
Saving my Potch for now
this criticism is completely overblown.
Nah
@@armorvil depends on how adamant you are personally to what does and does not make a localization good/bad. Some take it VERY seriously (obviously). Some will likely play this and not even notice the difference or care that there is a difference. And that is totally fine. Most people are saying it is pretty shit though, not just bad.
yeah, no way these guys are getting my money, i am very serious and strict about these things since i'm not a brainless consumer, i can play something else.
they blew it, next time find non woke translators.
trying this on gamepass PC. performance seems really good. load times are short too (granted i installed it on nvme) . it's an improvement from the demo i think.
So I've encountered a couple of problems on Switch (I don't know if they're exclusive) that are annoying enough for me to not play it.
1. You cannot use Auto-Advance, it works in voiced cutscenes but if you try to talk to NPC's with it, then it closes the dialogue box before it's typed out, meaning you constantly have to toggle it between cutscenes and exploration making you have to try and guess where cutscenes are triggered.
2. It takes a good 10 seconds to load random battles which REALLY breaks the flow of the game. I know it's an indie title but they've had some good funding and it's 2024.
These are minor grievances for most, I know. But they personally annoyed me enough within the first half an hour that I had to put it down. I hope they patch it up because I've been excited for this for years.
they have to tox this bug ASAP. I cant recruit the last character because of this 🙄
Erick I prove that if you press X during evrey action in the duels it has respond and have no damage
Noriyuke Iwadare, Michiro Naruke and Motoi Sakuraba on music duty is incredible news and would make me pick up the game even if the rest of the game was awful. Fortunately, it sounds like that is not the case. Cannot wait to play this!
Are there plans for a sequel?
Calm down, the game just came out.
@@vulfreydeneed more suikoden lol
Im still unsure, simply because of the translation. I've been hearing bad things about the translation. So I'm waiting for something like a fan translation.
That's a pretty harsh statement @12:59. This is clearly a QA issue that was missed, which is bound to happen with a kind of project like this. It can even happen with AAA titles as well; it's just a shame it had to be related to character recruitment, which is super important in these games to achieve the best ending. What compounds this even more is by having over 100 characters, so... Yeah, I can see how problems can happen. But to suggest people not buy the game because of it or until it's actually patched I think is a little harsh to say the least. It will be fixed.
Idk, I didn't see any issue with the translation example you gave... he said "you have my word" and she said "do I now? Delightful." Seemed normal enough to me, unless I'm missing something
There's other, actual issues due to political activists doing the localization.
@jacobsanders4677 ooooooh, thanks for the explanation. Not a big deal, I think. But that makes more sense
@@tylerdurden7965 It also has a line added where someone implies it's not good to assume genders. There's only a few such egregious lines but it's definitely noticeable and an issue.
There are no issues, just a vocal minority making issues because they don't like 6 lines of dialogue in 50 hours gameplay
@@daniellomas5389 Tell us you have no principles without telling us you have no principles. It doesn't need to ruin most of the game to be opposed.