Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes Is WORTH The Wait... | Review/Impressions
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- After years of waiting, the Suikoden spiritual successor has arrived! As someone who lightly dabbled in Suikoden, Eiyuden Chronicle is unlike anything I've played and I've adored all of my time spent with the game.
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"The gift that just keeps giving" is a huge part of Suikuden
Suikoden was the first RPG I ever fully committed to. When I was younger, what I loved most about RPGs was the art. Those cool splash pages in GamePro, PSM, and Electronic Gaming Monthly. At the time, I didn't really play RPGs but loved the stories and the art. Suikoden was the first game I purchased and actually played start to finish. It opened the floodgates and my love of RPGs grew. It's thanks to Suikoden that I was able to enjoy games like Wild Arms, Lunar, FF6, Xenogears, and so many more. Suikoden will always hold a very special place in my heart.
I played Suikuden a long time ago, but haven't played it since. I finished Eiyuden Chronicles Rising so I am very interested in Hundred Heroes. Can't wait especially now that I know that it's definitely worth it.
tell us later what bonus would be carried over in hundred heroes because you have already finished rising
The game is beautiful and takes me back to the golden era of the PS2 days.
I pre downloaded this game on my Xbox knowing literally nothing about it months ago and always jokes with my brother that I can’t wait to play it I’ve been a day one and then I finally saw it was available to play yesterday and I have literally put nonstop hours into it since. I did NOT expect to like this game so much this is probably my favorite game I’ve played this year
As a Suikoden 1+2 fan, I love hearing about this amazing game for the first time from my one of my favorite TH-camrs!! Thank you!!!
Thank god! Love Suikoden, one of favorite JRPGs of all time so this is something I have been waiting for. Thanks for the review Matty!
They put the man, the myth, the legendary voice actor Todd Haberkorn in this game. Omg I'm loving every hour of this game.
Id avoid putting the Switch box on a non Switch review... especially THIS Switch version😅
Yeah I clicked in the video just to see a Switch review....
yea this is a slight blunder, but I also get it since the switch box has a different size ratio it might be better to fit in a thumbnail
When Suikoden 1 & 2 came out no one said it could be this or should be better, we were just happy a new RPG was released that was different and we played our hearts out !
Eiyuden Chronicles is a GEM and some of its mechanics are old school like saving and random battles and that's just fine.
This.
well said
Thats definitely very true. This reviewer kept it pretty balanced, but Ive seen many others picking out critiques of games that, when playing the game for what it is (and not rushing for a review), you genuinely dont notice because the game does other things so strongly. Do I think something like the Trails series is objectively perfect? Of course not. But can I overlook a lot things (not even intentionally) when theres so many other things about it that are so fun, immersive, and resonating? Absolutely.
Something that would annoy me is something like the experience not counting when the party member is down. Reviewer is right to call that out, but tbh its not something thats gonna bother my experience enough in the moment to make me wanna stop playing, and its certainly not going to be something I remember in hindsight after looking back at my enjoyment of the game. If there was an update or mod to fix it Id use it, but either way this just seems like a great game :) will definitely make time for sometime this year (already purchased my copy to support this dev team)
@@PantsaBear I would like to see a retro style video game reviewed in 2024 without it being compared to...another. It's all in the eye of the beholder, I love random battles and you don't, I love micromanaging my inventory some don't, I'll grind as long as it takes to level up my gear just like Suikoden 2 made us do, I will spend hours doing mini games really doing nothing plot wise and that's pure joy and some Run straight to the ending.
70% of suikoden 2 charm is its music so the fact that the composer is not available made it seems impossible to match suikoden 2.
Man, I hope this is just the start. This and BG3 were my most hype games was waiting for like several years.
Literally I knew nothing about this game or bg3 but they have both became my 2 favorite games I’ve played probably ever
Great first impressions TY i'll pick it up game looks really cool.
Absolutely love the graphics on this!
9:45 , I had this issue at first, until I paid more attention on my screen. The game does provide that info. If you look at the screen it says press X for details at the top side. So the game does tell you what the rune does.
thats an odd thing for him to miss
daammmnn! need to finish Unicorn Overlord fast 😅 excited to play Eiyuden Chronicles
The graphics are absolutely gorgeous, I can't wait to dive in!
i feel that Inventory management problem so well. this is also why i always emtied my inventory when doing dungeon exploring in Suikoden. its kinda hasle to discard your Item everytime you get new chest or item. also i wanna ask, is the enemies still drop equipment or Rune?
Because you see, In Suikoden some enemies can drop a high lvl equipment that you can only get few times via chest. and its on end game too, and rune that drop from enemies you cant really buy from shop usually.
There's an item that lets your party run faster they are called dash boots and the big war battles are like total war but simplified. I'm really enjoying the game,and I am a suikoden fan.
Amazing review :) did you get a nintendo switch code? I’ve heard the performance is bad and wanted to know if that’s true
I mean it's the switch. It's a turned based jrpg though so It wouldn't really effect gameplay that much.
I played on PC. Switch was there for presentation/set design, but I’ve read that the Switch version is bad. PC is totally fine tho.
@@TheeCambion it seems like it has really long load screens between random encounters. Frame rate I wouldn’t mind
@@retrorebound8887 thanks!
@@NintenGeeksMariaThe janky fix for low rate encounter seems to be capping your frame rate to 60 fps in nvidia settings or something similar
When you are selecting/equipping runes or equipment if you press x on the controller itll pop up a window that explains what spells the rune has or what the equipment does
Thank you, this is great to know before I start playing!
it feels to me like he rushed the game to get the review out.
not to mention you can dictate what your party members do on AUTO combat mode and you can restrain them from using mp, sp and items.
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Great Review! Can you please tell us what system the footage shown here is from? Thanks!
PC!
@retrorebound8887 I figured... Looked too good to be Switch lol.
I was hoping to see more Switch footage as I've heard some bad things about how it runs... Unfortunately it's too late for me to "Switch" my choice as a Kickstarter backer.
Might try to sell my Switch version and Digital game code to put towards the PS5 version. Might have no choice, since I can't change my backer choice.
@@skins4thewin Switch version will be just fine
@gothard5 Hope so... Maybe after 6 months worth of optimization. It isn't going to be fine any time soon tho, that's for certain. It needs a LOT of work. It never should have been released in this state honestly. They should have delayed the Digital version too, just as they did the Physical version.
@@gothard5 it's a little premature to be saying that.
press X to see details of a rune
under party you can make the general auto-battle strategy "spend no mana" with 2 clicks.
this game is meant to be played with auto-battle. its smooth and it works. hording SP is bad since they reset every battle. only hoard mana.
i've only played about 2 hours so far, but this sounds exactly like what i've been looking for as a prior suikoden fan! Looking forward to playing more myself :D
Hey matty great review man I hope you’re getting enough rest your eyes are looking a little dark and baggy I could be wrong but I’m hoping you’re taking great care of yourself
I’m happy to have been one of the backers! Can’t wait to play it soon
I definitely will be picking this one up. Never played Suikuden but I absolutely love the art style. This should be good.
How’s the random encounter rate heard it’s not that high at all going through the world map without barely getting into battles has me worried a bit?
there is a bug in the game where the encounter rate is tied to your refresh rate. the higher you refresh rate the rarer the encounters. this is a problem when playing on higher frequencies than 60hz... so make sure to cap your FPS to 60 using your GPU software or set the monitor refresh rate to 60 if playing on console
@@luccan ok thank you very much
I talk about that in the video, but I like with how big the environments are that the random encounters don’t stop you every two steps. Seriously, some of these dungeons are huge!
The encounter rate being tied to your refresh rate isn't a bug. It was done that way purposely.
Can’t wait to get my Backer copy!
48 hours in and loving the game a lot.
the auto attack is wild! just casually used my 500 all heal medicine on a random encounter. fkcn hell hahahaha!
Going on a tangent about a side comment you made, but I disagree that protagonist death = game over is necessarily bad. It just means that keeping the protagonist alive is something you have to take into account in your management of the battle.
It can be done well when the combat is balanced with that in mind. Once I'm in the flow of the game it just doesn't bother me. Keeping the MC alive is a priority and that's just another element of combat I have to plan around during battle.
I do agree about characters who took part in battle but die not getting exp being a shitty mechanic. I think halved exp or something if it's meant to punish death would be more fair, but no exp is too annoying, especially since death is likely to happen on boss battles and such which have the biggest exp yelds.
Main character death is a terrible design for a turn based random targeting combat. For starters, your opponent basically has to intentionally ignore their objective of winning to make it even playable. Making death almost a completely random occurrence. In persona, almost every time I died, it was completely out of my control.
@@sincerelyfit4057 What a coincidence you bring this up today because I just had an experience with protagonist death earlier today. I had a game over by protagonist death on a boss fight earlier today in SMT V, which I'm replaying. I was pissed, but there was a pretty clear cut and obvious reason I lost: I neglected my buffs and debuffs because the boss was dying and I was trying to finish them off quicker. I took a risk and it didn't pan out. Ultimately, RNG played a part (the boss targeted the MC twice) but I would have survived had I not decided to neglect my defenses for more firepower.
One instance I agree it's unfair and out of the player control, and the Persona and older SMT games do have this flaw (and may very well be the source of your deaths): instakill attacks. MC death with hit-based instakill attacks is just bullshit design.
Thankfully the last 2 SMT games fixed that by putting more conditions on when instakill effects can activate, hopefully that will carry over to the next Persona too.
I really hope they can fix the small text bigger. i could not play through the first game because i could not see the text.
You will advance and get a bigger bag, easily around 70 spaces, via the castle and support characters.
You also get dash boots in the first big dungeon, the mine. While this is oldschool, I did not mind too much. You also get a support character very late on that makes you run faster.
I appreciate your on-point, honest impression video after watching a sloppy "review" from another outlet. You elaborated why it's worth the wait without exaggeration AND clickbait-ey title. 👍
Do you plan on reviewing Unicorn Overlord?
review starts at 3:55
Worth every single bit of what it costs.
and the fact we are getting DLC with additional stories. Not to mention a 2nd entry down the Line is even better.
Never played a Suikoden game either, but as a huge Trails fan myself this game ticks a lot of boxes and I'm very excited to eventually get my hands on it 😎
Trails definitely took a lot of inspirations from Suikoden.
@@jmporkbob with the sheer amount of characters and the political intrigue I wouldn't be surprised, they also took inspiration from their own games xD
@@Cyrus_Bright The protagonists of Suikoden 1 and 2 use a bo staff and tonfas, respectively... I'll just leave it at that 😄
Please let us know when you get a fury or berserk rune.....or double attack. Some runes might have a low drop rate ;(😢
Double attack yes, rune havent found them, but my guess is they are there under a different name
@@tahamata56 😊 thanks
Hello everyone, I have a problem here.
I play with the Nintendo Switch console.
I have finished the Eiyuden Rising game, but when I started the Eiyuden Hundred Heroes game, the notification about the Bonus Content didn't appear.
Can anyone help me?
Personally, I like the inventory limits. It adds a sense of forward thinking or tact. It's not for everyone but RPGs become super easy if you can just amass endless items. There's a balance in there somewhere.
I miss the fluidity of Suikoden battles though. Where multiple actions go off simoltaniously (ie: attacking two different enemies at the same time) but definately is fast enough...mostly for 6 unit parties.
I have high hopes for this, I was dissapointed that with Octopath Traveller 2 no-one was talking about it a week after release 💀 hopefully people can pay attention to this one.
Its ironic that we get two games from two legendary creators that past away Yoshitaka Murayama for Eiyude Chronicle and Akira Toriyama for Sand land.
It really is like a jrpg with other genres mixed in to a lesser degree with base building, strategy games, etc. Not to mention all the mini games! And I really do like the gimmick boss fights, they're fun to do!
I played it for 4 hrs today and had a blast well worth the wait I'm a big fan of old school pixel art jrpg also had a blast with sea of stars I had to throw that in there lol
Finally another game like Suikoden, now if only the industry would make another Vandal Hearts style RPG
Will there be physical releases or just downloaded?
Both, but I believe the Switch version is delayed until late May
At least now you're incentivised to use healing items. I'm such a hoarder, showing a lot of constraint when using consumables even when my life depends on it. So this feature might be a good thing in my case. ^^
how is eiyuden chronicles rising? i never tried it
fuck yea was hoping this would be good, been waiting for a game like this on game pass
It took me over 80 hours to beat the game with all heroes collected.
It's a wonderful game.
The abandoned mines look amazing, as does Hishann Palace.
The battle ststem is fun, but people seem to use auto which is odd to me, takes the fun away.
The hero combos are fun. The Magical Girl combo os the best, but I doubt many reviewers have really got that far in. Seems most reviewers play 5 hours and then judge the whole game.
Still on chapter 9 doing side content in ff7 rebirth and picking up stellar blade tomorrow. The backlog is real. I love suikoden 2 and still have the physical copy for the ps1, so this has me very excited just will have to get it later
The loading for switch makes it a must wait until they patch the load times
do you need to play the chronicle rising before this?
No, but Rising is a fun little game in its own right!
No, but there's a few things that carry over on your save if you did play Rising. Nothing major, just a little bit of continuity.
Really anxious. Just one day and 16h left so I can download on Steam and play for months.
don't wait for the remake play the og suikoden 2. also, great video!
The dash ring lets you sprint. You get it in the Abandoned Mine.
Fallout 4 update and Eiyuden Chronicles in the same week? A man only has so much free time 😭
So growing up I replayed suikoden 2 multiple times. Trying other party members, switching strats etc.. the problem was though that you couldn’t skip the cutscenes. And after the 2nd play through you just wanna get to the gameplay man. Can you skip cutscenes here?
Yes you can
I'll definitely check it out on Game Pass. I am not very familiar with JRPGs and I hear this and Suikoden aren't messing around!
If you end up becoming a fan of JRPGs, you should also check out Persona 3 Reload, Tales of Arise, or Ni No Kuni on Game Pass. All pretty different from each other, especially compared to Eiyuden Chronicles/Suikoden, but all great games.
I just platinum’d CS3 last night and Idk whether to jump straight into CS4 or pick this up…liking the review, but I’ve also seen people being disappointed. Seems to have very mixed reviews.
I am leaning towards getting it on release date based on this review and a few others, so thanks for that haha
just doesnt have alot quailty of life modern gaming stuff. like the ps1 era you get no help. lol just gotta figure stuff out, and heard game feels unbalanced goin from easy to super hard.
@@jeffwolfplays0513 Sounds like a true old school RPG to me which is a good thing haha. I ended up buying it, but I’ll play it once I’m done with FFXVI DLC. Thanks for the reply. 🤝
@@oscarmontano5236 yeah ima get the wait till may till the physical copy comes out. That should be enough time to implement some patches. lol
Dude I played the first Suikoden when it came out on PS1. You could only use the d-pad, it was infuriating. N,S,E,W. That's it. I did collect every star (felt like a platinum trophy back then).
This is a 100% buy for me. Even if I don't get the memberberry good-feels, I want to support this kind of art and these kind of developers.
I can't for the tier lists to drop
Matt...please tell me you didnt play the switch version....
Good to hear it’s worth it! My copy came in a few days ago but I wanted to do a quick playthrough of Rising first.
Rising is fantastic, might even like it more than this a little bit. Prefer the full action gameplay.
Rising is infinitely better than HH.
@@gothard5 just started the new one so I can’t say for sure but I am definitely leaning that way so far.
@@gothard5gotta be trolling there’s barely any story to rising. Just a prelude
@@gothard5 Rising is fine for what it is, but it was incredibly repetitive. The whole game was fetch quests. I minded this less in the opening hours because it was really satisfying seeing the town get built up, but that became frequent. As for the action combat, it was so basic. Once I got the third character it was basically just using their ranged attacks to hit confirm and spam link attacks.
Yeah there are some QOL missing like not seeing what the runes give you before slotting them.. but as an old JRPG it's a minor thing to me. Game to me so far is an 8.5/10
Sucks about the switch version but im excited for the game. Preordered on ps5 physically
heard its a fucking mess on switch sigh anyone know for sure?
This game will be released on May 21st
looks like im waiting for a sale, or for remasters
Caint wait for this to release im more of a old school rpg player sea of stars was great now its time to put some hours into hundred heroes
This is probably the best review/ impressions I watched of this game. Thank you. I'm so happy that this game exists. It is as close to the legendary Suikoden as possible
its also on Xbox games pass for PC...
not getting xp by dying can set you up with niche leveling system. in suikoden 2 you abuse these to reach lvl 99 by only killing lvl 40-50 enemy and killing 5 of your party
having no previous experience or nostalgia with Suikoden as a series ( I did play the first game a bit, but not enough to really fall in love with it), I was mildly excited for this. I'm happy people who were into Suikoden are getting a game like this but man... hearing about that inventory limit.... makes me less interested to play this. It is a pet peeve of mine. I can take it in older games, but not so much in newer ones. I loathe inventory space limits more than any other mechanic in any game (exceptions being when that limit makes sense or is justified). I'll wait for this to go on sale for really cheap. I'm in no rush to play this anyway.
It sounds like a high quality gotcha game without the micro transactions. I really enjoyed Octopath Traveler Champions of the Continent at first, so I might have to try this.
I hear Battle Network, I give you my like and subscribe.
Seeing a first timer play a suikoden title. You guys, it has base building and a war rts like strategy mode.
Me... yes, you really need to play suikoen 2
Great game but i feel like i'm playing it just to finish the story its like a game with an endless goal you sink time in but it feels like you havent achieved anything maybe if they added more of a relationship aspect to it almost like persona than it might feel less just empty story dialogue that just there as a placeholder.
Suikoden 2 was on the PlayStation Store years ago for ps3. I got it for $10.00 then. Not sure now because I never use the ps3 anymore.
They took the PS3 store down. I got all rhe suikoden games it had before it went down though.
DO A VIDEO ABOUT VAGRANT STORY OR XENOGEARS!!
You almost made turn based sound like a bad thing, unless i miss heard, but i personally prefer it over button mashing combat.
I prefer it too!
I've heard that Konami may release the Suikoden 1 and 2 remasters in the Summer of 2024. Obviously, I would take that with a grain of salt but I sincerely hope it's true.
"Ei" as in George Takei, neighbor, and weigh. I keep hearing people pronounce it with an "ee" like "Eden" or something, and it's wild to me.
really, some reviewers i watch pronouce it corectly because Eiyuden take the Eiyu part is japanese words for Hero. and commonly you heard if you play old trope JRPG. except you a young generation just newly know JRPG maybe there will be such a case.
@@Kindi001 @Kindi001 I grew up playing JRPGs in the '90s, but very few of those had any kind of voice acting. Moved away from the genre a bit as I got older, which might be why I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about.
I thought it was phonetically "eye-you-den"
@@Twinsfan1992 It might be. I don't speak Japanese. I just know in English "ei" is generally pronounced A, and that's how George Takei pronounces his name. I just think it's weird that I watched two reviews and both sounded like they were saying "Eden" while someone poked 'em in the stomach.
@@WikrinThe late Murayama put out a video shortly after the KS campaign launched explaining the pronunciation. It's "A-yoo-den"
Cool
since he didn't mention it keyboard/mouse controls are kinda janky (tpyical 90s jrpg style) and cannot be rebound. also. if ur fps is over 60 it lowers the amount of random encounters. so be sure to cap fps to 60.
Suikoden 2 best game I ever played
Just bought the game, hoping that it has a "recap" or something for Rising because I wasn't interested in the gameplay of that one.
It does not, but you dont miss much, besides some character info and worldbuilding. Rising made me really like some characters more.
I played Rising, honestly you didn't miss much. Treasure Hunter goes to village, teams up with the mayor's daughter and a Kangaroo man to find girl's missing dad you do some dungeon crawling and fight big bad.
The look of combat kinda reminds me of Beyond the Beyond.
Also
That kickstarter story kinda reminds me of The Legend of Vox Machina.
CR: We would really love it if we could raise $750 thousand.
Fans: Here is $11 million.
The main characters can be a little annoying too. I press the right button to open a door and they make feel like I pressed the wrong button. This is in the first dungeon. I am 2 hours in.
I hope they either adjust the random battle difficulty or give us a Hard Mode, cus yeah having to do nothing but mash Attack for ALL random fights is kind of stupid & not cool. I would much rather have battles where I have to actually try a bit to win.
There is a hard mode it's just not clearly shown for some odd reason. The game in the beginning asks you if you like to start the game on normal, if you decline it you can switch it to hard mode and a few other settings (kinda similar to Draconian mode in DQXI)
@@ChampionSushima That is good to know! Thanks for the info!
I recieved the game early and been playing for two weeks now :)
About a week for me. Loving it.
No duals?
There is an element weakness, check hints
I'm enjoying the game so far. The character I do not like in this game it was only in the first hour was Lian For some reason, I just cannot stand her 😂
YOU NEED TO GO PLAY THE SUIKODEN GAMES, they are goated!!!!!
Where can they be played? The HD remaster of 1+2 are coming but are currently TBD.
@@Blasted2Oblivion I have them all on PS1-PS2
All this game and we haven't even gotten DLC yet. Just wait.
18h in done with treefolk village on hard
Pre ordered and waiting on the early release!
Great game.