**Important Notes** Just going to get the answer to these questions out of the way here since it will probably be asked otherwise: Q. What about Leene? A. Leene was not one of my most used characters because quite frankly, she's pretty mid. Her dexterity, speed, and luck are all incredibly high, and her unique skill Full Force Clacker can deal a lot of damage if she's built for it, but there are caveats. Starting with her Full Force Clacker, while this can do significant damage to all enemies allowing you to clear random encounters before enemies can attack you, by the time you actually recruit Leene you can easily do this already, making this skill more of a 'win more' option that costs you a party slot. Next, outside of her dexterity, speed and luck, her stats are either average or cripplingly bad -- in the case of power and magic, these have even scaling so you can tailor her to be the type of damage dealer you want, but this comes at the cost of their base values being average, meaning you need to invest a lot of her rune slots into increasing their values in order to see the results you want. Even if she does crit almost all of the time, she still needs decent offensive stats to make those crits worthwhile. But the biggest issue with Leene is her abysmal defensive stats -- even at level 99 her base defense and magic defense are lower than characters 50+ levels lower than her, making her a major liability in any fight that isn't a random encounter. Essentially she is a glass cannon that doesn't contribute anything new to the party. So yeah, Leene is mid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Q. What about Rune of the Mage's Path on Momo? A. You're welcome to use it but I think it's a massive troll of a rune in which the 50% damage increase isn't worth the drop in defensive stats, especially with no damage check in the game. Giving him a Rune of HP+ or an accessory that increases HP doesn't make up the effective HP loss from Mage's Path, and in the event that the enemy gets a turn, Momo will get wrecked it attack. Personally, I consider it unplayable from an optimization standpoint which is what I focus on -- it's fine if all you care about is screenshot damage though.
Nice list! Don't sleep on the Rune of Stone and Radiance! They have buffs that don't rely on magic stat! They have buffs like DEF up all, immune to 1 hit to all, full heal/revive and ATK up + regen to all! Even the 2nd tier wind rune is cool with the action speed up to all buff!
Francesca really scales up her HP very late.. She’ll have 400+ HP by level 99, which with the build you have for her, she’ll be on the tanky side.. too bad she scales so late, but I guess it’s fine since her hero combo with Falward would make the game very easy at the start..
The problem with factoring in scaling past the mid 60s is that after that point it doesn't matter anymore (except Leene who still gets bodied by anything that moves) since you out scale the game's enemies by so much -- at level 99 you'd take little-to-no damage even without gear on. This is why I don't factor in 60+ scaling myself when determining a characters stat scaling.
That’s fair.. Which is why I use Gieran so much, since his signature rune makes him have a lot of MP for heals.. and very late levels is where his magic stat falls off compared to others..
Chandra is a worthwhile mention. I dont like using up 2 character slots on 1 character but she feels worth it. Particularly in the 40-90 portion of the game. She is fast and can hit hard. Her skill slot is a 3 which lets her use reckless slash to reduce enemy phys defense for 3 turns. Her unique rune is a solid attack on all enemies. Lastly she tanks in an interesting way. By taking up 2 slots she seems to be the target of attacks twice as often. Combine that with solid phys and magic defense and a firefly rune for a solid offensive and defensive powerhouse.
I don't like any of the two slot characters. They don't seem to be balanced very well, like they were in Suikoden 3 and up (those actually felt worth the tradeoff). After all, they should make up for both the stats and output of two characters AND the extra "option" to use items/heal/ect you are losing. And they just don't. If Chandra works out for you, and you found a way to utilize her effectively that's cool. After all, its not ALWAYS about mechanics so much as using who you like (hence "rpg). I DID use Yume (the bear riding girl) for a while for that very reason, after all. And mention it for full disclosure on my opinion. Fun and style should always come first, with mechanics working around that. I think ONLY using the "best" characters takes away something important about JRPGs like this one.
@@MidnightBlackandVictoria I also dont like the 2 slot characters. Chandra is the only one that feels worth it in this game and only in the manners I described. She tanks well enough that you dont generally need to heal. She is fast enough to use items and play the pocket healer if you need one. All the while being a solid physical attack that can remove enemy defenses. If you are playing with the no items option on she still performs well absorbing attacks and keeping everyone else from being hit while putting up damage numbers on par with hitters like CJ and Nowa.
@@loganharvey8086 Agreed. Shes decent as a tank. But I think Reyna (the dark knight) does just as well for only one slot. They really should have beefed up the two slot characters, but I know we lost the late great Yoshitaka Murayama I think before this game was fine tuned. As a fan of the series, his loss really adds a sad touch to this game, knowing it will be the last he will ever make. What a genius! We don't get developers of his caliber (despite all the flashy graphics these days) very often as it is. He will be missed.
@@RozalinGaming I just hope it doesnt end up being some half cocked action RPG hybrid thats more of a vanity project for his replacements that feels more like a glorified fan-fiction spin off than an actual tribute to the original creators and developers. We already HAVE a couple of those disasters with Final Fantasy, Valkyrie Profile (and if rumors are true, Dragon Quest 12).
Nowa and Garr can do some decent damage when on the front line with the warriors pinnacle rune equipped. Usually 6-800 on basic attacks and 1k+ with skill runes.
Any frontline character that can equip Warrior's Pinnacle can do good damage. Before I brought in Viesskin I had it on Nowa with him in the front, but Viesskin's buff provided more overall damage than replacing him and putting Nowa back on the front line with pinnacle.
@@jeffreylane2431 What I would have liked is a way to upgrade character's rune slots -- like, if someone had a rank 2 slot it would have been nice to use some resources to make it a rank 3 so you could use higher rank runes on them.
Can you please make a video about Perry? I’d love to use her more but her stats seem so bad. I’ve only basically found use for her when it comes to breaking armor. Her attack demolishes it in like one turn.
Iugo can be strong, definitely not OP, but strong. He wasn't among my most used units though, because while strong, I always found myself wanting to replace him whenever I used him.
I ended out using Chandra and Wayve up front. Isha, Hakugin, and Dijkstra in the back. Chandra is naturally tanky, so you can focus on boosting power and crit. Doesn't take much to make Wayve tanky and he has a bunch of rune slots and row hitting unique rune for 2 SP. My Isha didn't differ much, except she was more offensive focus, because Wayve was doing my healing. Hakugin never felt my party once I got her. I'm a big fan of row hitting unique runes with 2 SP cost. Dijkstra literally just yelled every turn to boost party for ridiculous dmg numbers.
@@Parfenoff79 Chandra: Rune of Tremendous Pwr, Rune of Sp Conversion: Mighty Pwr, Sleep Slash, Rune of Warrior's Pinnacle, and a Lethal Necklace. Wayve: Quick Slash, Rune of Mighty Pwr, Rune of Impregnable Defense, Rune of Land, and a Topaz Bangle. Thats endgame builds, no need for an actual healer at that point.
Isha is great, once I got her, she took over my healer spot for the rest of the game. Gave her the second level light rune for the aoe buff when healing wasnt needed.
I usually use Wayve, Djikstra, Iugo, Isha, Nowa, and Momo. Wayve (Rune SP+) & Iugo are using Warrior's Pinnacle, and Isha & Momo are using Mage's Pinnacle. While Djikstra were only increased atk for a turn, since Wayve can use rune-lense for every turn. For Nowa usually used him for Items, and Isha for rune-lense heal. Still considering using another as backup (CJ or someone else) for Nowa since I want to put Nowa as attendant. Not interested using Hero Combos since total dmg isn't that much compared to single atk.
Do you know how much armor by rank decreases damage? Was going to put mysical bangle on Nowa since all my other guys have S shields but I haven't really seen anything in reduced damage. Debating the bangle vs mark of hero.
@@eljo8963 More like welcome to Japanese gaming since the 90s lmao. The localizations of old just censored a ton of stuff like that. Yes, even Paper Mario did it.
So far, most magic and hero combos feel worthless. How did they screw them up this much? 2 chars who each hit near 200 on a regular atk should not need 2 sp each to combo and hit 280. Honestly, this game is riding a lot on Suikoden 1&2 nostalgia. There are a lot of irritating game design choices. In the sand dunes areas and I still don't like the mage style characters. They all get 2 shot in a round and I am constantly reviving them. I only have 1 malachite broach, so I can only make 1 mage not die. I just started using the necromancer Mia, and she feels better as she has a 2 sp skill that hits everyone.
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**Important Notes**
Just going to get the answer to these questions out of the way here since it will probably be asked otherwise:
Q. What about Leene?
A. Leene was not one of my most used characters because quite frankly, she's pretty mid. Her dexterity, speed, and luck are all incredibly high, and her unique skill Full Force Clacker can deal a lot of damage if she's built for it, but there are caveats. Starting with her Full Force Clacker, while this can do significant damage to all enemies allowing you to clear random encounters before enemies can attack you, by the time you actually recruit Leene you can easily do this already, making this skill more of a 'win more' option that costs you a party slot. Next, outside of her dexterity, speed and luck, her stats are either average or cripplingly bad -- in the case of power and magic, these have even scaling so you can tailor her to be the type of damage dealer you want, but this comes at the cost of their base values being average, meaning you need to invest a lot of her rune slots into increasing their values in order to see the results you want. Even if she does crit almost all of the time, she still needs decent offensive stats to make those crits worthwhile. But the biggest issue with Leene is her abysmal defensive stats -- even at level 99 her base defense and magic defense are lower than characters 50+ levels lower than her, making her a major liability in any fight that isn't a random encounter. Essentially she is a glass cannon that doesn't contribute anything new to the party.
So yeah, Leene is mid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Q. What about Rune of the Mage's Path on Momo?
A. You're welcome to use it but I think it's a massive troll of a rune in which the 50% damage increase isn't worth the drop in defensive stats, especially with no damage check in the game. Giving him a Rune of HP+ or an accessory that increases HP doesn't make up the effective HP loss from Mage's Path, and in the event that the enemy gets a turn, Momo will get wrecked it attack. Personally, I consider it unplayable from an optimization standpoint which is what I focus on -- it's fine if all you care about is screenshot damage though.
Nice list!
Don't sleep on the Rune of Stone and Radiance! They have buffs that don't rely on magic stat!
They have buffs like DEF up all, immune to 1 hit to all, full heal/revive and ATK up + regen to all!
Even the 2nd tier wind rune is cool with the action speed up to all buff!
Francesca really scales up her HP very late.. She’ll have 400+ HP by level 99, which with the build you have for her, she’ll be on the tanky side.. too bad she scales so late, but I guess it’s fine since her hero combo with Falward would make the game very easy at the start..
The problem with factoring in scaling past the mid 60s is that after that point it doesn't matter anymore (except Leene who still gets bodied by anything that moves) since you out scale the game's enemies by so much -- at level 99 you'd take little-to-no damage even without gear on. This is why I don't factor in 60+ scaling myself when determining a characters stat scaling.
That’s fair.. Which is why I use Gieran so much, since his signature rune makes him have a lot of MP for heals.. and very late levels is where his magic stat falls off compared to others..
Dij, Wayve, Yuferious, Isha Leene and Momo
Team is bonkers.
After watching this.
I'm gonna start building Reyna and Isha.
Since I haven't get Momo yet.
Just got Reyna and she DEFINITELY has a spot on my roster. Not only does she cover and take no damage, she usually counters and does dmahw as well.
Good info, garr is great !
Where can you see the negative affinity for elemental runes for each character?
Unfortunately there isn't anywhere in game to see this info -- you have to look it up online.
Chandra is a worthwhile mention. I dont like using up 2 character slots on 1 character but she feels worth it. Particularly in the 40-90 portion of the game. She is fast and can hit hard. Her skill slot is a 3 which lets her use reckless slash to reduce enemy phys defense for 3 turns. Her unique rune is a solid attack on all enemies. Lastly she tanks in an interesting way. By taking up 2 slots she seems to be the target of attacks twice as often. Combine that with solid phys and magic defense and a firefly rune for a solid offensive and defensive powerhouse.
I don't like any of the two slot characters. They don't seem to be balanced very well, like they were in Suikoden 3 and up (those actually felt worth the tradeoff). After all, they should make up for both the stats and output of two characters AND the extra "option" to use items/heal/ect you are losing. And they just don't. If Chandra works out for you, and you found a way to utilize her effectively that's cool. After all, its not ALWAYS about mechanics so much as using who you like (hence "rpg). I DID use Yume (the bear riding girl) for a while for that very reason, after all. And mention it for full disclosure on my opinion. Fun and style should always come first, with mechanics working around that. I think ONLY using the "best" characters takes away something important about JRPGs like this one.
@@MidnightBlackandVictoria I also dont like the 2 slot characters. Chandra is the only one that feels worth it in this game and only in the manners I described. She tanks well enough that you dont generally need to heal. She is fast enough to use items and play the pocket healer if you need one. All the while being a solid physical attack that can remove enemy defenses. If you are playing with the no items option on she still performs well absorbing attacks and keeping everyone else from being hit while putting up damage numbers on par with hitters like CJ and Nowa.
@@loganharvey8086 Agreed. Shes decent as a tank. But I think Reyna (the dark knight) does just as well for only one slot. They really should have beefed up the two slot characters, but I know we lost the late great Yoshitaka Murayama I think before this game was fine tuned.
As a fan of the series, his loss really adds a sad touch to this game, knowing it will be the last he will ever make. What a genius! We don't get developers of his caliber (despite all the flashy graphics these days) very often as it is. He will be missed.
They have already mentioned there will be a sequel that Murayama was already in the planning stages of.
@@RozalinGaming I just hope it doesnt end up being some half cocked action RPG hybrid thats more of a vanity project for his replacements that feels more like a glorified fan-fiction spin off than an actual tribute to the original creators and developers. We already HAVE a couple of those disasters with Final Fantasy, Valkyrie Profile (and if rumors are true, Dragon Quest 12).
Nowa and Garr can do some decent damage when on the front line with the warriors pinnacle rune equipped. Usually 6-800 on basic attacks and 1k+ with skill runes.
Any frontline character that can equip Warrior's Pinnacle can do good damage. Before I brought in Viesskin I had it on Nowa with him in the front, but Viesskin's buff provided more overall damage than replacing him and putting Nowa back on the front line with pinnacle.
@@RozalinGaming that is true. would be nice if they could all use it, it might make characters like Bernard and Valentin do some damage at least.
@@jeffreylane2431 What I would have liked is a way to upgrade character's rune slots -- like, if someone had a rank 2 slot it would have been nice to use some resources to make it a rank 3 so you could use higher rank runes on them.
@@RozalinGaming that would have been an awesome feature. would expand on so many character build options for the runes.
out of curiosity did you play the magical horl at all?
Can you please make a video about Perry? I’d love to use her more but her stats seem so bad. I’ve only basically found use for her when it comes to breaking armor. Her attack demolishes it in like one turn.
what about Iugo ? i think his slash rune is OP
Iugo can be strong, definitely not OP, but strong. He wasn't among my most used units though, because while strong, I always found myself wanting to replace him whenever I used him.
You mention that Reyna have pretty bad dark rune affinity, where do you check that stat?
The wiki has everyone's affinities listed; sadly there isn't anywhere in-game to check.
I ended out using Chandra and Wayve up front. Isha, Hakugin, and Dijkstra in the back. Chandra is naturally tanky, so you can focus on boosting power and crit. Doesn't take much to make Wayve tanky and he has a bunch of rune slots and row hitting unique rune for 2 SP. My Isha didn't differ much, except she was more offensive focus, because Wayve was doing my healing. Hakugin never felt my party once I got her. I'm a big fan of row hitting unique runes with 2 SP cost. Dijkstra literally just yelled every turn to boost party for ridiculous dmg numbers.
So what did you put on Chandra and Wayve?
@@Parfenoff79 Chandra: Rune of Tremendous Pwr, Rune of Sp Conversion: Mighty Pwr, Sleep Slash, Rune of Warrior's Pinnacle, and a Lethal Necklace. Wayve: Quick Slash, Rune of Mighty Pwr, Rune of Impregnable Defense, Rune of Land, and a Topaz Bangle. Thats endgame builds, no need for an actual healer at that point.
@@eurynomos84 lethal necklace?
Havent heard anyone else mention Isha before, she is dope and ive been using her and dont know why i havent seen her talked about before
Isha is great, once I got her, she took over my healer spot for the rest of the game. Gave her the second level light rune for the aoe buff when healing wasnt needed.
Wait, where can you see the affinity that they have for each type of magic?
The wiki has the datamined info since it isn't available in-game.
@@RozalinGaming what wiki?
@@bxaire eiyuden.wiki.gg/wiki/Eiyuden_Chronicle_Wiki
I usually use Wayve, Djikstra, Iugo, Isha, Nowa, and Momo. Wayve (Rune SP+) & Iugo are using Warrior's Pinnacle, and Isha & Momo are using Mage's Pinnacle. While Djikstra were only increased atk for a turn, since Wayve can use rune-lense for every turn. For Nowa usually used him for Items, and Isha for rune-lense heal. Still considering using another as backup (CJ or someone else) for Nowa since I want to put Nowa as attendant. Not interested using Hero Combos since total dmg isn't that much compared to single atk.
Do you know how much armor by rank decreases damage? Was going to put mysical bangle on Nowa since all my other guys have S shields but I haven't really seen anything in reduced damage. Debating the bangle vs mark of hero.
Great video, ty. Have you been playing on hard difficultly?
I have yuma for my tank
She takes a few points
Yuthus is my boy
Momo is a "he"?
Yes.
Momo is a he?
Yep.
@@RozalinGaming slay!
Momo is a trap?!
Yep.
I hate that combos are arguably useless in this game
how is Momo a "him" ? I thought he was a female.
Once you recruit him you'll get his story, but yes, Momo is a male character.
Welcome to 2024
@@eljo8963 Traps have been a trope in Japanese otaku culture for a long time
@@eljo8963 More like welcome to Japanese gaming since the 90s lmao. The localizations of old just censored a ton of stuff like that. Yes, even Paper Mario did it.
Momo and Vivian are both Otonokos ironically.@@FieryAnubis
So far, most magic and hero combos feel worthless. How did they screw them up this much? 2 chars who each hit near 200 on a regular atk should not need 2 sp each to combo and hit 280. Honestly, this game is riding a lot on Suikoden 1&2 nostalgia. There are a lot of irritating game design choices.
In the sand dunes areas and I still don't like the mage style characters. They all get 2 shot in a round and I am constantly reviving them. I only have 1 malachite broach, so I can only make 1 mage not die. I just started using the necromancer Mia, and she feels better as she has a 2 sp skill that hits everyone.
momo is a he?
Yes, Momo is a male.
Hello Rozilin my name is Isaiah and I have something important to say to you. God loves you and like any father he wants to help you and keep you safe especially from the devil. But I am not just speaking to you about this I am also talking to your fans about this. God loves you all. An he wants to help us. For we can not save ourselves. We all need help lets not beat around the bush. Including the person that is typing this message to you. So do not be afraid to ask for God's help. Shalom Shalom.