They almost did it with the Romulan assigned to operate the cloaking device on the Defiant . She was there for 2 episodes in season 3 but then disappeared with no explanation
One of the best lines of the episode was cut here. The Romulan Praetor(?) interjects during Bashir's story about not being able to trust anyone around him and asks; " *But you felt you could trust a Romulan senator?* " .... in a story as crazy as what was just told, the part that was most incredible to him was that a Federation officer could trust a Romulan senator. I love that little detail.
@@redomer91 That's kind of the point though, isn't it? he's super smart, super fast & super durable but he's so naive that he actually falls behind the rest of the cast in a bunch of ways. I think it's meant to show that genetics aren't everything.....
Plot Twist It was revealed that Koval was the Starfleet -Section 31 mole all along as they have successfully swept Sen. Creetak aside. Koval didn't kill Sloan with a phaser,. he just beam him away to a seclude location. This is why Section 31 is the most efficient black ops intelligence agency of the entire Alpha Quadrant . More efficient than the Obsidian Order and Tal Shiar and the only one which is not infiltrated and known by the Founders
The funny part is, in the end, Starfleet got what it wanted via Section 31 - Creetak was swept aside, and Koval - the real Starfleet mole - was put on the Senate Continuing Committee. One of my favorite DS9 episodes.
YES! Poor starfleet, they still can't escape humanities embarrassing darkness. When romulans become the good guys and save the day from your own secret service! XD
Here is interesting idea. We know that vulcans and romulans are stronger than humans. But Bashir was genetically altered, Can that assumption be correct for him as well. He said he physical attributes were enhanced. So the question is? Could Bashir have overpowered the Romulans if he chose too?
Romulans are the same species as Vulcans. Vulcans went down the path of logic and Romulans did not. When they splintered is unknown, but as we can see, Romulans did not embrace logic.
Section 31 are heroes. The federation has the luxury of its morals because they fight the shadow war, and do it well.... something that the romulans and dominion do just as much.
Section 31 are ghouls, they make the tal'shiar and the obsidian order look like choir boys. Do the klingons have a shadow war? They're an embarrassment to humanity. Sloan died to quickly, he deserved to suffer, without principles, life becomes hell. Even the alien secret police force has limits, secton 31 does not. Really they're a parody for the C.I.A.
@@thedarkmaster4747 Sloan didn't die at all. Ross feeds Bashir a line of bullshit about transporters and whatnot, but whatever the case, later in the episode Sloan is sitting in Bashir's room, as he always does when subtly reminding the doctor that nowhere is beyond his reach.
The actor who plays Koval is excellent in making me hate him. Unfortunately (and I know what I say next will be construed as being r*cist), his posh English mannerisms only make his character that much worthy of dislike: they way he inflected his sentences. The condescending tone with which he speaks-full of holier than thou. Maybe that was purposeful, I don’t know. Romulans are written to be treacherous, confrontational hypocritical tropes, I get it. But the Romulan senator that was assassinated by Gara at least had some charisma about him. This guy seems to drop a faux charisma that is barely there.
They needed a Romulan regular in the show so we could see how they live and culture. During the Dominion war would have been perfect.
They almost did it with the Romulan assigned to operate the cloaking device on the Defiant . She was there for 2 episodes in season 3 but then disappeared with no explanation
@@NitpickingNerd Also Cretak, who was in the first two episodes of Season 7 and never appeared again until this episode where... yeah...
maybe they could do it on discovery 😃
Sloan certainly didn’t look “beamed away”
Who's to say section 31 didn't have cloning technology
@Anne Isopod no, I mean, who's to say this Sloan isn't a genetically modified clone of himself
Maybe the beam he fired was a transport beam
Well he did "burned away" this time.
@The Geek Is Strong i was thinking more like a hologram.
One of the best lines of the episode was cut here. The Romulan Praetor(?) interjects during Bashir's story about not being able to trust anyone around him and asks;
" *But you felt you could trust a Romulan senator?* "
.... in a story as crazy as what was just told, the part that was most incredible to him was that a Federation officer could trust a Romulan senator. I love that little detail.
Sometimes I doubt Bashir's "enhancements" when he acts like this.
@@redomer91 That's kind of the point though, isn't it? he's super smart, super fast & super durable but he's so naive that he actually falls behind the rest of the cast in a bunch of ways. I think it's meant to show that genetics aren't everything.....
Plot Twist
It was revealed that Koval was the Starfleet -Section 31 mole all along as they have successfully swept Sen. Creetak aside.
Koval didn't kill Sloan with a phaser,. he just beam him away to a seclude location.
This is why Section 31 is the most efficient black ops intelligence agency of the entire Alpha Quadrant .
More efficient than the Obsidian Order and Tal Shiar
and the only one which is not infiltrated and known by the Founders
What if they both were to hedge bets?
They also nearly killed all the founders later
The other two make their existence publicly known. They are wise enough to… not do that
How you did this with the characters recounting past events or other events happening elsewhere was just beautiful. Very well done
Bashir for all his enhanced senses and intelligence, was basically an easy patsy for Sloan.
The funny part is, in the end, Starfleet got what it wanted via Section 31 - Creetak was swept aside, and Koval - the real Starfleet mole - was put on the Senate Continuing Committee. One of my favorite DS9 episodes.
YES! Poor starfleet, they still can't escape humanities embarrassing darkness. When romulans become the good guys and save the day from your own secret service! XD
I thought that was the whole point of this episode?
This episode was excellent - if not quite in the spirit of Star Trek.
It reminded a lot of Le Carre's espionage thrillers.
I wish the Romulans would have had a bigger presence in DS9. They did them just right
I wish we'd gotten season 5 of Enterprise so we could've seen war with the Romulans
compared to any other series, they sure did get a huge presence
the best part is, the roles are completely reversed, this was all the plan, you can even see the senator denying the existance of S31
4:15 my dude is hiding behind a shrub
🤣 🤣 🤣
Elite covert operative.
Imma hide in this shrub...
The Romulans are freakin awesome!
That’s the Romulan STUN setting.
And a couple of days later, a star was put on a wall on Earth in Langley..
This was fantastic especially with the photos and past video to but into context. Thank you. You have a new subscriber. 😊
The section 31 agent looks like a bad guy in die hard 2
Same actor.
Section 31 should have it's own show.
There's one in the works right now as a spinoff of Discovery.
@@anlumo1 STD is shit and any spin-offs of STD will be even worse.
Well done - good editing.
I've often theorised that the Federation - *but not Startleet* - are actually villains.
3:01 That is not Admiral Fujisaki. In fact, this is Admiral Nakamura, who appeared in some TNG episodes
"where is Mr Nakamura? I should inform you all that I have planted C4 in this building. Karl, guard the door."
Absolutely ruthless section 31 is the total opposite of Starfleet.
0:50 She looks/sounds like Adrienne Barbeau!!!! Yes????
Here is interesting idea. We know that vulcans and romulans are stronger than humans. But Bashir was genetically altered, Can that assumption be correct for him as well. He said he physical attributes were enhanced. So the question is? Could Bashir have overpowered the Romulans if he chose too?
Romulans are the same species as Vulcans. Vulcans went down the path of logic and Romulans did not. When they splintered is unknown, but as we can see, Romulans did not embrace logic.
3:01 That was Admiral Nakimura, wasn't it????
Admiral Nakamura ? (Maybe, The guy , Admiral Fujisaki, on the picture is).
1:10 Sometimes DS9 was terrifyingly scary, and that music just made it even worse!!!! :(
Rumor has it that Admiral Fujisaki's death paved the way for a promotion for Kirsten Clancy.
Good clip
Section31 = CIA.
Good or Bad.
Anyway, The federation has the same lvl of darkness, on par with Romulans.
it adds the reality in politics in Star Trek Universe.
Anyone else recognise voyagers mess hall
LOUD MUSIC
Section 31 are heroes. The federation has the luxury of its morals because they fight the shadow war, and do it well.... something that the romulans and dominion do just as much.
It's easy to be a saint in paradise.
Section 31 are ghouls, they make the tal'shiar and the obsidian order look like choir boys. Do the klingons have a shadow war? They're an embarrassment to humanity. Sloan died to quickly, he deserved to suffer, without principles, life becomes hell. Even the alien secret police force has limits, secton 31 does not. Really they're a parody for the C.I.A.
@@thedarkmaster4747 the way Sloan died felt anti-climactic... also didn't involve enough Garak...
@@thedarkmaster4747 Sloan didn't die at all. Ross feeds Bashir a line of bullshit about transporters and whatnot, but whatever the case, later in the episode Sloan is sitting in Bashir's room, as he always does when subtly reminding the doctor that nowhere is beyond his reach.
The actor who plays Koval is excellent in making me hate him. Unfortunately (and I know what I say next will be construed as being r*cist), his posh English mannerisms only make his character that much worthy of dislike: they way he inflected his sentences. The condescending tone with which he speaks-full of holier than thou. Maybe that was purposeful, I don’t know.
Romulans are written to be treacherous, confrontational hypocritical tropes, I get it. But the Romulan senator that was assassinated by Gara at least had some charisma about him. This guy seems to drop a faux charisma that is barely there.
Quite the overbearing music
Bashir is traitor to the federation
Good clips put together well. The added music reduces the value of the video and just acts as an annoying distraction.
4:25
This is the main Suliban in Enterprise. Selek or whatever the hell his name was.
Silik
Actor name is john fleck he played multiple alien roles in startrek
5:36 What did VOYAGER have to do with anything
VOYAGER was in the D.Q. when the war was going on and didn"t come home until AFTER the war
that´s not Voyager, that´s the Bellerophone, Admiral Ross ship
Sometimes you have to use what you have available to you which is why the Belleraphon was used
hhhghhhhhh
this doctor is annoying