Ranking the Mortal Shell Bosses from Worst to Best

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  • @thejohnhopkinscompany9599
    @thejohnhopkinscompany9599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +890

    *Sees a boss ranking on a game I have never played
    "Ah yes. Yes this is what I will watch today."

    • @murdoch1023
      @murdoch1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      same lol

    • @theDeModcracy
      @theDeModcracy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Love it - hope you enjoyed the ranking! I highly recommend Mortal Shell if you have an opportunity to play it

    • @DecimatedSoul
      @DecimatedSoul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@theDeModcracy haven't played yet but I'm a souls Vet and I'm just gonna wait to preorder the Physical tomorrow

    • @youngfire221
      @youngfire221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theDeModcracy yea i don't eredrim cheese enemies because it ruins the game

    • @jellykurshchev242
      @jellykurshchev242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like me for ds games

  • @ravenatort
    @ravenatort 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1051

    I know Mortal Shell’s team is small, but I really hope they get bigger and make a top tier game on their next go around. Great vid, Demod!

    • @angryskeleton5676
      @angryskeleton5676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Mortal Shell is already flawed masterpiece tier imo, similar to the first Dark Souls. All the pieces are there, they only need better level and boss design and a longer play time to elevate this IP to Soulsborne levels of quality.

    • @ravenatort
      @ravenatort 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Angry Skeleton
      Exactly!

    • @sophisticatedfrog5737
      @sophisticatedfrog5737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@angryskeleton5676 I'm sorry but what the hell is even good about the game if level and boss design is bad? That's literally the main reason why dark souls is considered so good. Dark souls with bad level and boss design is barely a mediocre game which mortal shell really is

    • @benma1116
      @benma1116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Ден4ик he didn’t say it’s bad. He said it needs to be better. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad

    • @angryskeleton5676
      @angryskeleton5676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@sophisticatedfrog5737 Core mechanics, the shell system, hardening, empowered ripostes, the way you can mix and match the light and heavy attacks in any pattern and it will still look natural and fluid. Aesthetics, lore and atmosphere. The way you can become absurdly strong to the point where you are the boss. The focus on tanking hits and being slower and methodical vs the blistering speed that other games in the genre have tried to emulate.
      Way more than boss and level design goes into these games, and Mortal Shell does all those things very well.

  • @crab-time1
    @crab-time1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    This game, especially for their first attempt and for being such a small studio, is extremely good and although it's short compared to the Souls games, it scratches the itch (for now) for a Souls-like that feels fair and fun. The bosses are mostly underwhelming, but the combat is so fun that it makes up for it (for me anyways). I hope that Mortal Shell 2 extends the length of the game and uses the parameters for quality bosses such as Enslaved Grisha and Tarsus to create an even more amazing experience.

    • @mrjrb561
      @mrjrb561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No reason they can't do DLC's that add new areas, shells, and weapons. Heck, we have Gorf and a couple NPCs that could ship us off to wherever for extra story.

  • @vincenzo4314
    @vincenzo4314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    A lot of people probably noticed this but I noticed Hadern is just the word Harden with the R switched around

    • @wreath626
      @wreath626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The game screams new mechanics at you in secret lol

    • @slowhite1706
      @slowhite1706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I actually didn’t even notice that his name wasn’t Harden. I’m an idiot.

    • @reviewreviews5908
      @reviewreviews5908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Hadern is also a germam word. And the meaning shows haha

    • @slowhite1706
      @slowhite1706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      zero well, I’m not smart enough to know German but thanks for the trivia friend!

    • @AllsinRatrotted2
      @AllsinRatrotted2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And Gorf is just Frog backwards

  • @Angry945
    @Angry945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Imagine the real final boss was an NPC as Eredrim...

    • @bretth342
      @bretth342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Or to truly ascend you must beat doppelganger of whatever you used to kill the Unchained One immediately after. So the easier the first fight is with your setup the harder the second will be.

    • @lizardlad279
      @lizardlad279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bretth342 actually sounds awesome

    • @pastesir3025
      @pastesir3025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that's the final boss of the virtuous cycle

    • @PrimalDragon1740
      @PrimalDragon1740 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pastesir3025 Or at least part of it.

    • @richardjared960
      @richardjared960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Laughs) I’m in danger

  • @gruggerduggerhoose
    @gruggerduggerhoose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    “Nudist plague doctor chicken wing.”
    Ahh yes, the commentary we all subscribed for lol

  • @LilMrPizza
    @LilMrPizza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I'm so glad you mentioned the Crucix second phase cutscene. That shit is DMC1 dark soul with light level of laughable.

    • @TheAphexTim
      @TheAphexTim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I thought I was having a stroke when that happened

    • @matheuscruz8574
      @matheuscruz8574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It was weird but accurately conveyed what was going through the boss' head

    • @Gary_a_normal_human_being
      @Gary_a_normal_human_being 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matheuscruz8574 I felt kinda bad for him

  • @phrozac
    @phrozac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I actually really enjoyed The Unchained boss fight. Those shadow minions in the whirlpool were a pain on my first Obsidian Dark run.

    • @zed6740
      @zed6740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I honestly feel like I'm in the minority here because this boss is also my favorite.
      His presentation (intro), his very well telegraphed attacks, his large health pool, unique phases, unique design, unique attacks, and unique setting all make for a very well done yet challenging final boss.

    • @ungobungo9844
      @ungobungo9844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zed6740 i agree 100%, i was expecting him, crucix, and martyr to be top 3. However this might also be because i played as tiel with the hollow sword. I found that in every fight i never used the “wait and bait” strategy which is mentioned here. Instead i relied on rolls and well timed hardens throughout lengthy engagements (due to the HUGE stamina pool). And with the experience from that playthrough of the game, it’s 100% one of my favourite souls-like games.

    • @zed6740
      @zed6740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ungobungo9844 Exactly, for OP it might be his least favorite because he relied on the "wait and bait" ractic instead of being nore aggressive which imo is usually the better route if your expecting a challenege.

    • @craig71686
      @craig71686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel like The Unchained was the best boss. He had the largest health bar and variety of attacks. However, I think the Eredrim buff makes him overpowered. Even using him with the buff capped at 100, he still tears through enemies. I just played through the game using Tiel because I prefer his mobility.

    • @phrozac
      @phrozac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@craig71686 I agree! I actually did an Obsidian form run and killed him no hit. Here's a video of a Tiel run where I ALMOST got a no hit. I think I got touched 2 or 3 times. Super fun fight. I like the rhythm.
      th-cam.com/video/bC9dQGIH1vA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=phrozac

  • @yadamspiezer
    @yadamspiezer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Eredrim wasn't any more OP than Solomon with the constant resolve build up, or tiel with endless stamina and poison healing. It's not that Eredrim specifically made the game too easy, it's that any upgraded shell made the game laughably easy.

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I found Tiel to absolutely busted. I got poisoned on purpose to heal up, spammed sprint into an R2 attack into sprinting away again throughout most of the game and died more times to Grisha than I did to any other boss after I got Tiel.

    • @ryanlafferty5815
      @ryanlafferty5815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the harden mechanic itself makes the game really easy once you get used to it

    • @ryanlafferty5815
      @ryanlafferty5815 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noamias4897 tiel is most fun to play but getting one shot by late game enemies can be infuriating, Solomon can spam special attacks late game with high resolve

  • @TimsGamesDoneHard
    @TimsGamesDoneHard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    If only Eredrim wasn't so broken :P
    By the way, the damage you take when you drop into the Crucix fight can be negated with that ability that all shells get, the plunging attack when you harden. And if you go with no shell, the devs allowed no fall damage if you harden in mid air. So it's not guaranteed damage, they just expected you to get that ability by the time you're at the fight.
    Other than that, I mostly agree with this ranking. I think Unchained wasn't worse than Ven because I liked the spectacle of the big boss and many copies of yourself. But definitely a slog of a fight.
    Tarsus is definitely my favorite boss with Enslaved Grisha and Imrod not far behind.
    By the way, a Shell-less run is pretty fun with its infinite stamina, would recommend if you ever return to the game.

    • @alanmartinez2122
      @alanmartinez2122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The no shell run made me frustrated with at least one move for each boss, imrod's fire breath that kept hitting the burn effect even if i dodged, the crucix turtle and shoot attack, tarkus's tracking and erratic quick attacks in the second phase and the unchained's head being able to hurt you for knocking him down

    • @TimsGamesDoneHard
      @TimsGamesDoneHard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alanmartinez2122 I would have been frustrated by all these things if I hadn't already watched several speedruns of the game and learned the proper way to deal with each of these issues. It's easier said than done, but it's very helpful and makes the fights far more enjoyable as Shell-less.
      For Imrod's fire you just need to harden in place and wait for the fire breath to stop, dodging away will lead to you needing to roll in circles for a while but it won't kill you so long as keep rolling.
      Tarsus is just about learning parry timings in first phase and using the explosive parry. For second phase you can keep sprinting to the right to bait the instant attack (which will miss if you're sprinting to the right) and parry the follow up.
      Crucix is about parry timings up close and abusing s using the weapon ability. Unchained is about positioning yourself to avoid the beak.

    • @alanmartinez2122
      @alanmartinez2122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TimsGamesDoneHard agreed, i learned the hard way but i managed to beat them and get the platinum trophy, thanks for the tips thou, also idk if it's a glitch or intentional but has the unchained ever attacked you from below the water during the whirpool heal phase?

    • @TimsGamesDoneHard
      @TimsGamesDoneHard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alanmartinez2122 no, haven't had that happen, sounds like a bug, that's weird lol

    • @alanmartinez2122
      @alanmartinez2122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TimsGamesDoneHard yeah it always caught me off guard when it happened so i couldn't see properly but it looked a bit like the attack where he slides along the ground towards you

  • @amirnazir4200
    @amirnazir4200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The notification for this made me almost as excited as when I heard you mention your planned 40 minute Ghost of Tsushima video... (also quality rankings > difficulty rankings any day of the week imo)

    • @doolenny9458
      @doolenny9458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on game tho I usually prefer quality ranking because I love to hear his opinions more then what kicked his ass

    • @theDeModcracy
      @theDeModcracy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad you're loving the quality rankings! I enjoy doing difficulty, but I think it's only particularly great when the game is really difficult and creates a big discussion around it. I'm working hard on the Ghosts video, but I do have two other videos crossing my list at the same time (Avengers and a surprise ranking!)

  • @stabcityblues5264
    @stabcityblues5264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    On my first play through I accidentally skipped the tower and went to fight enslaved grisha and Tarsus without any upgrade/parry. Man did I learn how to do Tarsus no hit.
    Then the gland run is just pure cancer without the seal.

    • @draw2death421
      @draw2death421 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here thats why Hes my 2nd faivorite boss number 1 being The unchained

    • @HexenStar
      @HexenStar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even without the seal, you are not defenseless: you can still harden.
      Using harden mechanics well is way more important than parry.
      Defeating Tarsus does not require parrying, nor does any other boss fight.
      You can slash though the entire game hassle-free, while not parrying
      almost anything.

  • @sagetheweeb2154
    @sagetheweeb2154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shedding your shell to t-pose into the big black square in the sky.....sounds awesome

  • @Vernafveik
    @Vernafveik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Frozone finally found his Super Suit, and a Greatsword to match

  • @madelynn7585
    @madelynn7585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I personally totally agree with your list! I would only put the unchained up as my second favorite boss and I would put crucix above enslaved grisha.
    The reason for this is because I have done a no-shell, obsidian dark run, and have had to master the all the bosses perfectly as to not take ANY damage. And the unchained took me like 20 tries and crucix took me around 20 as well. But I love the way the unchained moves and how aggressive you have to be. I had to learn all of his tells and attacks and it was an exhilarating and challenging battle. The only thing I don’t like is how he summons his minions. On my winning attempt, I was so aggressive that he never summoned them, which allowed me to win.
    Anyway I love your videos and have been waiting to see a mortal shell list from you for a long time! Great video!

  • @largemonkey
    @largemonkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I definitely respect your opinion about the unchained. But for me, I just can’t get over the visual design and atmosphere, for those regards, he’s actually my favorite boss in the game. I do see how the ganks and massive healthpool could bring the fight down, though.

    • @darkkonoha5865
      @darkkonoha5865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But for actual mechanics design, he's an easy 0/10. He has nothing but adds and cheese attacks, and he's still piss easy. The dev team really failed super hard with the final boss

    • @iforgot383
      @iforgot383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      as a final boss the fight is sooo boring, 90% of this games bosses are boring but the combat system is amazing.

    • @draw2death421
      @draw2death421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like the fight because of the ganks and the waves it makes my adrelanine go up but the martyr is my 2nd faiforite.
      Dark fathers fight is Very atmospheric wich I like definetly my faivorite among them all

    • @theDeModcracy
      @theDeModcracy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is a great point I should've mentioned. It reminded me a ton of Rom from Bloodborne though, so a part of me felt like "I've been here before." That lessened the impact a bit, even if the comparison isn't entirely 1 for 1

    • @darkkonoha5865
      @darkkonoha5865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theDeModcracy The comparison isn't even accurate because Rom is hard. Other than the fact that this game has 0 even remotely difficult bosses, all of the boss attacks are dreadfully easy to punish. It's a giant fight against a health bar. It's super boring on Obsidian Dark, since it's easy but you know if you make a mistake, you just wasted a minimum of 5 minutes.

  • @665Sunshine
    @665Sunshine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is really late. But I just finally played through the game.
    If you harden in the air when falling into Crucix’s arena, you don’t take fall damage.

  • @FlyingBystander
    @FlyingBystander 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I dunno - I thought the combination of Solomon with Hammer and Chisel was pretty broken - but a ton of resolve spamming fun :)

    • @enderkahn1018
      @enderkahn1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The light resolve attack is so broken that I literally destroy enemies and bosses with it. Not to mention it counts as an AOE as well so just adding to its affect

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 ปีที่แล้ว

      From this comment section it seems everything is broken/abusable

  • @nightguardian7198
    @nightguardian7198 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is years late but just a side note for the crucix fight, you can avoid fall damage at the start of you have the hardening in the air ability :)

  • @oggabooga2946
    @oggabooga2946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you can avoid the fall damage at the start of the crucix twice born fight by hardening

  • @Kevin-zz9du
    @Kevin-zz9du 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    DEFINITELY want more of this world. Love the lore, the atmosphere, and the great gameplay. Could be expanded on greatly. Mortal Shell 2 could easily be on par with the best of Dark Souls. Just needs a bit more polishing.

    • @HexenStar
      @HexenStar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vice versa. Dark Souls needs more polishing to be on par with Mortal Shell.

  • @Roland3ld
    @Roland3ld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I loved the Twice-Born fight because of the phase transition. To me the camera shake reflected his deteriorating mental state after having lost his brother.

    • @hydroshock1853
      @hydroshock1853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or Cold Symmetry is still learning. But I thought that at first too, we felt him going mad. I honestly felt like a jerk killing his conjoined brother/self.

  • @SINE382
    @SINE382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What I’ve realized about this game. With no reason to grind up or level up most enemies are just a step around in the levels and you can avoid them and go straight to the bosses

    • @badgasaurus4211
      @badgasaurus4211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Basically. They offer no unique items so there isn’t really any point in killing them. Also items you find are generally trash consumables and other than the glimpses aren’t worth the time because the game isn’t hard enough to justify their use

  • @andressagredo1509
    @andressagredo1509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I again will recommend you replay the game. They capped the killstreak to 100. This means you can get a max of +10 damage added. With this patch, I felt that Solomon was the strongest since he kept getting resolve for free.

  • @SomeAustrianGuy_
    @SomeAustrianGuy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did my shell less run a couple of days back.
    Thought Crucix would by far be the biggest road block of the entire run, dear god was I wrong.
    The Unchained was by far the biggest and buggiest pile of scrapped together metal I have encountered in a long time.
    Seriously, the healing face that goes on way too long, the amount of untelegraphed attacks at his disposel, the constant keep away gamrle and by far the worst, the fact that he does damage while getting staggered
    Seriously, I was this close to throwing my overpriced piece of plastic controller through the goddamn window.
    It really hurt all the fun I had with the game up to this point. But my god was it satisfying to finally rip his glance out
    All in all, solid 3/10 boss, I never want to see him ever again

  • @SpartanPrimeDSTY117
    @SpartanPrimeDSTY117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice touch with Sister Friede's theme for the #1 spot.

  • @HexenStar
    @HexenStar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best thing about Mortal Shell's bosses - is that you can beat most of them in under 5 tries.
    And if you're playing as Solomon - and especially Eredrim, - then the dark-souls-ish cheap
    kills by the game are out of the question. Which is, of course, very gracious of Cold Symmetry
    to include this dynamic duo. Other than that, the bosses here seem to have been clearly
    inspired by ESPN: you have the NFL guy, the NHL guy (is that boss a canadian?), the track & field guy...and the kaiju version of a mutated Michael Phelps (give or take). I am rooting for a sequel!

  • @Mo_Mudabber
    @Mo_Mudabber ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best part of mortal shell is playing the LUTE

  • @sammorgan-plant8022
    @sammorgan-plant8022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love this game it’s something to keep me going until the next true souls title. Also with Crucix if you harden as you hit the ground it negates all damage.

  • @moonlight2870
    @moonlight2870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I REALLY disagree with the mindset that "easy means boring".

    • @raminahmed4476
      @raminahmed4476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A fight can be very engaging but not that hard, however I think what he meant was that it would be so easy that there's no real challenge, which makes it boring. When you can kill the boss quickly and easily, it kind of does feel like it was not an engaging boss fight. There's also the super tanky but easy to hit boss fights that are easy and boring, because they take so long to kill. Although, I do want to play mortal shell and see for myself, but the general idea that easy can be boring, but is not always boring, is the more modified version.

    • @HexenStar
      @HexenStar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I REALLY second that :-)

  • @arthur0491
    @arthur0491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finished it last night and I feel the same way about the rankings, maybe moving the unchained 1 spot up.
    Broken as Eredrim was I could never get past his low stamina so I played the whole game with Solomon and hollowed sword which I felt was the most balanced of the weapons. Alright game, hope they make more, better stuff.

  • @greywolf9341
    @greywolf9341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find the Solomon +martyr's blade combo a bit odd.
    I only used the heavy weapons with Tiel or Harros.
    The solomon + hammer chisel combo was my preferred choice because of the amount of resolve he generates.

  • @orc001
    @orc001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You should really do a Harros and Hammer/Chisel playthrough. It is by far the most aggressive and fun style I have found. OP if you upgrade the Hammer all the way, but the low HP keeps it balanced.
    It is much much more fun.
    I gotta say, it is really tough to listen to you trash these bosses and watch you use two boring OP builds. Eredrim being basically a story-mode difficulty build with full stacks, and The Scholar just being a weapon art spamfest.
    I will agree that the Tarsus Ice Boss is my favorite, I just wish it hadn't been my first main boss with an un-upgraded shell and weapon, which made it a long slog.

  • @alexgomezsilva2673
    @alexgomezsilva2673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can recomend you to play as harros or tiel
    Harros is the master of hardening, his stamina recovers faster while hardened, so the battles are more dynamic as you attack, harden, dodge, without having to wait anything. You have full stamina or hardening power almost all the time and if you have none of those bars full you can use your weapon power to not only deal great damage but also to some attacks and recover
    Tiel is more of a combo master, he is less harden and more dodge, you attack and deal more damage and poison damage at the risk of not having a great HP bar, but you can use wisely your stamina to deal a lot of damage or dodge an attack, here your weapon powers ain't something you aim for, it's more about combos

  • @Ballandkoolaid
    @Ballandkoolaid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely knew going into this tarsus would be number 1

  • @Booya456
    @Booya456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why does it seem that everyone that has played this game didn't figure out from the "forced fall" ,before the twin boss, that you use the drop down harden ability to survive ANY fall. I never had an issue with that even on my first play through xD

  • @Darkheart1413
    @Darkheart1413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the only issue with mortal shells bosses is they just aren’t aggressive enough, and there patterns are easily learnable. To me they had great designs, great arenas. Good varied amount of moves could of done with a few more. But yeh they seem real intimidating at first but if you played souls like many mortal shell fans players have. The moves become very predictable.
    Think they could of just benefitted from a bit more speed and aggression. I still enjoyed all the fights

    • @boredomkiller99
      @boredomkiller99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely needed more aggression. I mean they are still better then 70% of DS2 bosses and quite a few of DS1. Most of them would actually make good bosses in early souls games but with Hardening and weapon arts the bosses not being aggressive just benefits the player so much in Mortal Shell.

    • @Darkheart1413
      @Darkheart1413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      boredomkiller99 After my third playthrough of dark souls 1 I realised how easy a lot of the bosses in that game can be. As with dark souls 2 many bosses also quite easy, but some (mainly dlc) are amazing. Thats right I’m talking about you Ser Allone

  • @ryanlafferty5815
    @ryanlafferty5815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd agree Tarsus was the most impressive fight, but unfortunately in my experience, the most glitch ridden, ruined it

  • @elcotonex9016
    @elcotonex9016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought Crucix was the most interesting of the Revered. Imrod was absolutely pathetic, he just stood around and let me wail on him with the hammer and chisel, killed him first try.

  • @citizenerased174
    @citizenerased174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really want to like this game but it's really hard when it feels janky and slow plus the level design is waayy more overwhelming than any souls game. I guess I'll keep trying until I like it. I gave DS2 so many chances at first but quit everytime until one day I forced myself to get passed the first few areas. I finally ended up liking it so maybe it will be the same for Mortal Shell.

    • @thedanantenna
      @thedanantenna 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the problem with that is that Mortal Shell ends before you get a chance to like it.

    • @crysosisback7115
      @crysosisback7115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, liked the beginning, hate the mid game and the exploration of the main map as it's pretty annoying to travel killing the same enemies over and over
      But i did like the end of the game, with the world changing (even tho there's only 1 type of enemies in the fog world), as well as the ice boss and last boss.
      Also, the healing system is dogshit. You can abuse it but it's a choir, or you can run out and just curse at your screen how annoying that is ... No wonder the Estus flask is such a good system in Dark Souls, takes a few souls game to truly grasp that ...
      Tracking on projectile also is shit, as they're basically homing missile, which doesn't feel good to deal with.
      Overall, the game is beautiful, but i would've loved it to look worse and play better, with a bit more animation canceling to remove the clunkiness of it all.
      Still decent overall, i've seen much worse.

    • @phrozac
      @phrozac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love Mortal Shell. The Fallgrim forest is very confusing at first since it all appears rather samey, but you eventually start to recognize landmarks. And the game only feels slow when you're just learning how to play, much like Souls did. It's only weakness is its length. I want a 2 or 3x bigger sequel to this game. If that were announced, it'd shoot right to the top of my most wanted list right next to Demon's Souls Remake and Elden Ring.

    • @citizenerased174
      @citizenerased174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crysosisback7115 I think I have just been spoiled by the quality of Fromsoft games that everything else is just mediocre in comparison. Jedi Fallen Order is a pretty good souls like though. I do commend the dev team of Mortal Shell because it does seem like a passion project but with their limitations it just falls short. I hope I can find enjoyment in it down the road.

    • @crab-time1
      @crab-time1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fallgrim can be a bit confusing at first, especially with the lack of variety in the scenery or landmarks to mark important areas, but the temple areas beyond that are pretty straight forward. It might be just me, but I personally kinda like how straight forward and short the areas can be. It's kind of a breath of fresh air imo. The entire game is much more straight forward than dark souls, and I love and appreciate the strengths between the two game ideas. I'm only about 6hr in and I'm in the final area of the game, so it's unfortunately pretty short and I truly started to understand and enjoy it after finishing the first of the three temples.

  • @sr_cln
    @sr_cln 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting to crucix is harder than the actual boss fight

  • @trollguy3339
    @trollguy3339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine if they added pvp. Harden is a good example of that

  • @cinder392
    @cinder392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perspective is truly a weird thing...
    I actually enjoyed A LOT the unchained boss fight. In my first run i fought him with a maxed out solomon and a maxed out hammer and chisel... However it was a very long fight... But it was not tedious, it actually felt like an epic fight. Learning how to counter the waves and the several attacks in the most optimal way has been very enjoyable.
    When the whirlpool was formed i was SO confused and only at the end of it i realized it served to heal his hp... I felt like an idiot but it was so much fun.
    His boss fight is the only one in the game which left me with a fast heartbeat in the end, and that's a great thing for a final boss fight! Overall i'd say that the unchained is my favourite boss fight in the game (and after him, of course, the first martyr). The only changes i'd make to his fight are to his damage (h-he really does low damage for a final boss fight) and to his clones (which are too fast, to the point i had to use the weapon art every single time).
    Other than those points i'd say it's a pretty enjoyable fight. I especially appreciated the fact that the unchained is very active in his moves. He rarely stops or stand still. You really have to manage your stamina and wait for the right moments to attack

  • @mathieudelisle5988
    @mathieudelisle5988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sister ariandel theme from dark souls 3 in the background when talking about tarsus is a nice crossover

  • @NovemberHotel
    @NovemberHotel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the beginning of crucix you can harden on your fall to negate damage so you won't lose half your HP for the fight

  • @TheOpethOfMastodon
    @TheOpethOfMastodon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regardless,these bosses make the bosses in Surge look like masterpieces

  • @Malenia128
    @Malenia128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved this game! I just beat it yesterday and It only took me 4 days! When I first got it for my Ps4, I was horrible at the game, getting killed and hit over and over again. But, by the second day of playtime I became a god playing this game! It's so fun and easy for me and My favorite shell is Eldrium, and my most used weapon is Heavy Long Sword.

  • @mshat18
    @mshat18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great first game for such a small company. It had its flaws but everybody has to start somewhere. FromSoftware didn’t just come out of nowhere and make dark souls or sekiro it took them awhile to build themselves.

  • @itsyaboiguzma
    @itsyaboiguzma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And here I am just laughing like a psychopath while maining Tiel shell and hollow blade because poison on parry is an addiction and being able to sprint forever is a godsend.

  • @hectorbeck4350
    @hectorbeck4350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe it’s just me, but I love curbstomping the game with Eredrim, it’s great for when I don’t care about difficulty, and I can use Solomon if I want a fair challenge

    • @usingbridge1770
      @usingbridge1770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solomon can be nearly just as easy (except for the final boss) if you use the mase with the 2second weapon ability.

    • @hectorbeck4350
      @hectorbeck4350 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Using Bridge
      Hm, I hadn’t tried that, I suppose I’ll use Harros if a want to make it harder

  • @masterchain3335
    @masterchain3335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's funny, after my first play through I felt like the bosses were pretty good, but after watching this I'm realizing that I was mostly just thinking of a few of them and forgetting the rest... lol. I agree with all your rankings except I would rank Unchained at least a couple notches higher. As janky as the camera is, the fact that it wasn't a regular enemy with a boss health bar and actually had some interesting mechanics (waves, whirlpool) easily makes it at least noteworthy.

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As soon as I saw you talk about Mortal Shell, I suddenly got incredibly excited about this video coming out. It didn’t let me down whatsoever

  • @propheticrain-maker1486
    @propheticrain-maker1486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps the first list in which I agree 100%. Great video as always Dmod

  • @burningbelow4424
    @burningbelow4424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I beat tarsus, the first martyr quite easily on my first try, though I was already more experienced at the game and prepared for him by the time I battles him.

  • @ObligatoryBook
    @ObligatoryBook 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first boss was actually the First Martyr (not including Grisha, he was more of a mini boss speed bump I thought). He was so fantastically fun because I had to fight him purely with dodges, parries and hardens.
    All the other bosses were so damn sad though. I doubt DeMod knows this, but the Hammer and Chisel may be way more powerful in the hands of Solomon than Eredrìm. Why? Because the twirly whirly hammer art guarantees a boss knockdown and fill a whole resolve meter for Solomon.
    Basically, if you use this you automatically gain the ability to use it again instantly. The fire boss, the one I don’t even remember the name of, lasted 20 seconds for me, both phases. I just spammed the one weapon art and down he went. I was totally floored. All the other bosses just got destroyed by my twirly whirly mastery. Quite frankly, what I’m saying is I don’t think any of the shells are OP, it’s the H&C that makes the game a cakewalk.
    Great vid DeMod!

  • @pxgh0st
    @pxgh0st 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Friede Theme in Tarsus Fight gave me Flashbacks

  • @mathieupr6391
    @mathieupr6391 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna wait to play the game to watch that, but at least your videos convinced me to either wait for an Eredrim patch, or just try to not use the shell until the final area where you're apparently kinda supposed to get it to avoid a massive power-up early on.

  • @derekcampbell4209
    @derekcampbell4209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me the games strengths were just going through the levels. None of the bosses were that challenging. Martyr was the only one I didn’t get first try, got him my second attempt. And I died like a moron during the Unchained fight cause after a minute was confused where he was and jumped into the whirlpool Lmao. But got him my second attempt. Overall decent game and only 30 bucks. Well worth it.

  • @peteranderson3110
    @peteranderson3110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I first played mortal shell I thought “I wish I could adjust the difficulty” and then I found Eridrim and I was like cool found easy mode.

  • @wangchangbackup
    @wangchangbackup 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In case you didn't know, since you brought it up, you can just harden during the drop into Crucix's arena and it negates the damage.

  • @danielfrost6327
    @danielfrost6327 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I immediately coom when I see the new demod vids thx for the grind these are always sooo high quality

  • @Krakenjackz
    @Krakenjackz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for this. Nice vid man

  • @masterxl97
    @masterxl97 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, you sure d sound like you love this game. What a new gold standard for Soulslikes.

  • @nightrain1121
    @nightrain1121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    But the Martyrs blade looks cooler, so I’ll stick with that.

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope that the devs are going to be doing more with this game moving on. There's a lot of potential in this game but it badly lacks content (including but not limited to: Enemy variety, map variety, weapon selection, character customizability and playstyle variety) and the balancing needs work.
    It's like if FromSoft released the Ringed City as a standalone game rather than an expansion.
    There's a lot that can be done with Mortal Shells framework and I hope that the team behind it is gonna use the money they got from their sales to do exactly that. If Mortal Shell were to get a DLC that's bigger and more expensive than the main game I wouldn't be complaining.

  • @WayneByNumbers
    @WayneByNumbers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I interpreted the dizzying camera on the Crucix transition to be an attempt to express the disorienting emotional turmoil you just inflicted on the guy by killing his twin. But they definitely could have done it better. Which is a shame, because humanizing a boss in a souls-like as a person with feelings, rather than just a tick on a game progression checklist, is a rare move.

  • @phrozac
    @phrozac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Btw, I don't know about the Hammer & Chisel or Mace, but both swords have stunlocks on the Unchained that make the huge healthpool less intimidating, especially in Obsidian form with its ridiculous stamina reserves.

  • @darrenhalstead3684
    @darrenhalstead3684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With Hadern, it's just a perry game, use the health seal for health, and the one that causes them to explode when you get a successful perry

  • @gigidyify
    @gigidyify 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    im suprised you didn't mention the molten hammer cheese at all. The super three hit attack litterally one shot any boss before stack cap hell even at 100 it deletes any first phase, made you invincible, and with the resolve boost got you 90% of the attack back during it. really under appreciated weapon

  • @enderkahn1018
    @enderkahn1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seriously hope they make some sort of DLC that adds more to the world of Mortal Shell. Much like how the souls games have added completely new areas and bosses I'd like for the team to make that for Mortal Shell. It could be a new land you can get to by boat or as simple as a new NPC to take you, I would just like them to make this game more adventurous with what it already has. Can only imagine the possibilities of new shells and weapons too. Maybe like a kind of polearm or axe. It'd be really cool.

  • @ViroVV
    @ViroVV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mortal Shell is hands down my favorite game of 2020.
    All of the bosses are a bit underwhelming, but that can be a bit satisfying. When the world is more punishing than the boss and the boss is not exactly a pushover it serves as a nice punctuation to an area. I look at the bosses as only half the boss event as you also have to escape the dungeon with the gland and that was as frantic as the boss battles at times. Especially in the Seat of Eternity and the ever present possibility of falling while getting plunked to death by a line of archers.
    Given that this was Cold Symetrys first offering and how truly outstanding it was, I can see MS2 (if that is what it will be) should be an amazing game and would likely rival dark souls imho
    I cant wait to see it.
    I can forgive the weak bosses, but my only real complaint is that this game is undoubtedly Farm Souls. WAY WAY WAY too much farming required. Be it glimpses, Tar, Shrooms, toads, ect. I have never actually seen a souls like actually reward you for farming like this game does. I was grinding out stacks for Eredrim and ended up with well over half a million tar. I parlayed that into 1k rats, and about 800 bolts which I only used about 150 total.
    Anyway, good list.

  • @mitchyslickbro
    @mitchyslickbro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed mortal shell, but watching this makes me realize how lack luster the bosses are. Great start from a small team tho, I hope this sells well & they can work on a sequel. Better bosses, more shell variety (like a caster) & a longer game with more areas. Also the whole seat of infinity is a terrible area! But overall a great game

  • @mininabs
    @mininabs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't watch it til later, but I know it's good. Can't wait!

  • @k.i.dscrappy
    @k.i.dscrappy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My best experience with any boss was the Enslaved Grisha, he hit me and made me ragdoll and then I got hit by a spike falling from the ceiling while on the ground that made me fly into the air like something straight outta happy wheels

  • @TionsofCoffee2
    @TionsofCoffee2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm suing Crucix for his drunk helicopter cam.

  • @BeckettOC
    @BeckettOC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man love your vids, one thing confused the hell out of me though? Hadern doesn't limit item usage (at least he didn't for me? bug maybe). Not that he's hard but I used a load of mushrooms when I was fighting him for the hammer and chiz. They vanish from the screen at the start of the fight but if you use the d-pad you can select and use stuff still. As I say could have been a bug but they were usable in all his fights when I went through.

  • @TheAphexTim
    @TheAphexTim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think I will ever not fall for that fucking Fume Knight sweep that Tarsus does

  • @danielholladay4796
    @danielholladay4796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the unchained honestly. On another note you can harden in the air to not take damage from the fall before Crucix.

  • @Steelers3624
    @Steelers3624 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on moving into a new place, hope it's nice.

  • @hansolo3139
    @hansolo3139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the souls soundtrack behind mortal shell's bosses

  • @dalestoddard2742
    @dalestoddard2742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crucix gave me a very hard time. I even stuck with the hammer and nail because it seemed to have the best and quickest damage. My main problem is that you can't switch shells for each boss without trecking all the way back to the tower. I actually enjoyed the unchained fight and is one of my favorite bosses.

  • @doctorwhouse3881
    @doctorwhouse3881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like they've got things conceptually nailed down, but really haven't balanced things well enough. Not the best, but better than developers who do boring bosses with no creativeness.
    I am once again requesting, possibly, a ranking of the new Blasphemous bosses, or if you'd rather wait out for some future in case they add more content still, that's alright.

    • @draw2death421
      @draw2death421 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No creativity yeah.
      Chough chough Lords of the fallen

  • @thewarhamster8139
    @thewarhamster8139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That part about the hammer and chisel being OP... yeah. I didn't see any of the attacks the Enslaved Grisha had to offer. Used Solomon and shredded him in about 5 seconds with the hammer and Chisel's specials.

  • @noamias4897
    @noamias4897 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Unlimited healing reserves" meanwhile I spent the majority of the game not using a heal between rest points because I had like 3 mushrooms and 5 rats in my inventory. Swear most of my healing came from the "heal damage dealt when hardened" item

    • @arafatjahangirhridoy7577
      @arafatjahangirhridoy7577 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't get the part where he said unlimited healing reserve. What did he mean?

  • @8SweetPotatoLattes
    @8SweetPotatoLattes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Betwen the abysmally small stamina pool, my penchant for reach weapons, and his old-school souls-style dodge roll (rather than a dodge+quickstep like every other shell) I found Eredrim to be the most boring/least fun shell and therefore avoided him on my first playthrough. I may give him a whirl as I approach NG+. Solomon and Tiel ftw, but that's just me. I agree with comments saying that the bosses were overall a bit of a letdown on this game, but despite that and some other criticism I really loved a lot of what this game brought to the table.. Whether it's adding content to this game or making a sequel, Cold Symmetry is bound to really blow us away with their future projects.

    • @masterchain3335
      @masterchain3335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's penchant, not pension. Not trying to be a dick, I just personally wish people would correct me if I'm using incorrect words so I don't keep doing it.

    • @8SweetPotatoLattes
      @8SweetPotatoLattes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@masterchain3335 you know what....hey, thanks.

  • @benma1116
    @benma1116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mortal shell is the very first souls game I ever played. After beating it I got dark souls 3. I am sorry to say that I’m still stuck on high wall of lothric after 2 weeks

    • @LoverLikeNoOther
      @LoverLikeNoOther 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s fairy easy took me two days to get to the boss

    • @benma1116
      @benma1116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your Master see that’s because your actually good at video games

    • @LoverLikeNoOther
      @LoverLikeNoOther 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KillerBirdie666 no that was my first soul game I’ve played

  • @justins4814
    @justins4814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your face at the hammer damage 😂

  • @TheVDaddyo
    @TheVDaddyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your commentary. Great speaking voice. Worth a sub 😎

  • @janpavlik3170
    @janpavlik3170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the game. It feels very challenging at the beggining but you get better quickly. I played the low hp high stamina class so the final boss got me in 2 hits each time so learning how to dodge and use harden effectively was necesary. I hated his wave attacs at the beggining but goit used to them quickly. It just disrupts the flow of the combat. I agree with you on the rest. I played with martyrs blade since the moment I found it.

  • @jamesberlin3346
    @jamesberlin3346 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, didn't realize he needed to die before drawing his weapon!

  • @spectral_kiwi_arts641
    @spectral_kiwi_arts641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been waiting for this!!!🥰 I’m so happy nowwwww!!!!

  • @mondosworld5093
    @mondosworld5093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first time dropping to fight this boss was to just harden. You don’t take any hp for doing so.

  • @infinitybelt
    @infinitybelt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tarsus is easily the best boss in the game and the only boss that even holds a candle to souls in terms of mechanics. The other bosses, while aesthetically cool, lacked any kind of challenge really. Grisha I froze to death lol. Honestly I found myself using Tiel for that sweet stamina bar, but also to give myself some danger in boss fights. For example, the final boss I purposely switched to Tiel and it made it a bit more challenging. On Tarsus though I was using Eredem with Martyr Blade. Needless to say my choice of loadout made it a bit more challenging then this video let's on due to the slowness of the blade.

  • @awesomedudexx2681
    @awesomedudexx2681 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imo, i think unchained was the best

  • @lucid_lucas4509
    @lucid_lucas4509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of the bosses where to easy for the simple fact of hardening and having stocked healing items in my opinion, I best most on second third try. Amazing game tho especially for 15 people

  • @legendarystanduser8676
    @legendarystanduser8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Fight with Tarsus was of medium difficulty, I had lost the battle once and defeat him the second time.

  • @senpaizephyr8049
    @senpaizephyr8049 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, the fights you encounter before discovering and upgrading eredrim are the hardest fights you'll ever encounter in the whole playthrough. The rest are basically just a hot knife vs butter compilation

  • @josiahrios6716
    @josiahrios6716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a great first impression with the game because my first dungeon happened to be the snow cavern. After that, the game got a little bland for me. Overall, I had a good time and I’m looking forward to their next game!

  • @alejandrorivera893
    @alejandrorivera893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the friede ost in the background

  • @georgejestra7747
    @georgejestra7747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That time I fell into the whirl pool as it was about to close and I got pretty much every shadow dude🥲