If you’re harros, go through the seat of inifnity and talk to the robbed man contemplating suicide right before the shifting archives. He’ll recognizes harros and even have special dialogue for him, relieved to see that he “survived”. It makes me believe that taking out the seat of infinity was the special mission harros was sent on in the first place, but that might be wrong
I like Erdrim and Solomon's lore the most, but dig the designs of their shells a lot as well, especially Erdrim's helm. It looks like a crown was fitted to his helmet, and for some reason I'm reminded of Pontiff Sulivahn's face and crown.
Not just that: Eredrim projects strength and might, has a cool LOTR-style name. But more importantly - playing as him, completely nullifies the game's attempts at manufacturing artificial difficulty, stacked cheap kills, cheap cheat deaths and other "gifts". Even balances out the Narthex level in NG+. The gameplay in this video, unfortunately, is rather cringy and does not reflect that.
@@HexenStar Yea because you dont give him this slow ass big sword against agile ghouls. Give him low stamina hammer (or starting sword), and he will be a destroyer.
He just seems like the most main character shell 🤷♀️ imo he’s the canonical main character/shell whatever especially when you consider the relationship with his brother and the way the game ends and begins shits just perfect
Harros killed Solomon in my mind, because Solomon said that he knew the future and his future was death and Harros killed a man for knowing his future and you also find Solomon in a cave hidden away and Harros said he found the man in a cave after running away then was scared and killed him
I think Harros was near a temple when he died. The evidence is in the environment around him. If you look up in the area where the foundling wakes up after finishing the tutorial, you'll see a shattered cocoon above -- similar to the ones you the player end up leaving behind in the other temples. Once you crawl out of that area, you'll activate the Sester's checkpoint marker. The only other places where you find those are outside the three temples. In the same immediate area, you'll also find the petrified remains of people kneeling in supplication --- much like you see when you go to fight the Martyr. I think all of this suggests there were at least four revered and the crime Harros committed was killing one of them.
Harros: an angry atheist knight Erdrim: an excomunicated executioner/crusader Tiel: a devoted priest with a terminal illness Solomon: a scholar that died for the future
Harros may have died outside a temple that is no longer standing probably where the foundling first enters falgrim. Erdrim may have tried to attack the sestrs but died just outside their area probably overwhelmed by the bandits.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 he was overdosing on tar.. your comparison to a cancer patient is a horrible one. Tiel is an addict not a sick person imbibing the tar for medicinal purposes
Wait a second. Vassal killed Solomon. Solomon invited Vassal to heal him and he knew about what he will do. Vassal murdered him in fear, but Solomon didn't blame him because he knew what he will do
I always took it as the foundling being the "assailant". Solomon says he cannot resist his assailant and says he will be to slow to stop them, and then directly talks to the foundling afterwards. this makes me think he was only talking to the foundling, as an assailant isn't necessarily a murderer. ultimately, Solomon's cause of death is irrelevant to the story and the character. the point was that Solomon seen the future, and new he would be incapable of stopping the foundling. he didn't know the circumstances that would lead to his possession. he only knew it was all significant, as his encounter with the foundling in death, would aid in the foundling's ascension. we can still speculate on who killed Solomon, but i feel that Solomon himself wouldn't even care about who killed him, as he had seen the future and knew that death was only one step on the road to fulfill his fate Sorry for the long post, there is just so many ways to take what Solomon says
Theory: Harros was originally a knight of the seat of infinity. If you talk to brother Corvid, they’re apparently old friends and brether Corvid trusts him to find thestus. At the beginning of the game we see a giant opened shell of a mass of sinew and Harros nearby, near one of the sester’s markings. We can assume Harros was sent by the seat of infinity to kill a revered, was successful, and we crawl out of that revered’s body as it’s child
i really like tiel the most. his story shows a man with much promise dwindle down to absolute nothingness for the hope of feeling closer with his god as he consumes more tar, becoming so unrecognizable that hes even his brethren wont take him in anymore. his gameplay shows this too in a way, where he can run forever and dodge like a madman, but is far too squishy to take more than a couple of light attacks. he has reason to keep going, but his body is too weak to allow him to without constant careful care, needing the healing properties of the tar, or what he thinks is healing. just a nightmarish story to think about, but a fun shell to use along side the hammer and chisel
Yeah, i was very surprised myself with that. Especially Genessa "Jenessa" and the Old Prisoner. Too bad the game has no music. Seems to be some kind of a stupid fashion of the last 2 decades.
I think your take on Tiel backstory is a little bit off the point to be honest. The order of the events mixed up and his relationship to the Shrine of Ash is missing. Re-read his memories. The ritual of flame is a practice of the Shrine of Ash not the seat of infinity. He stat it cleary that he traveled to the seat of infinity which means it was never his origin.
From this video, I can't help but think of my own theory. Each of these shells has their own story to tell and upon learning them, you could probably add the main story to them. For Harros, you can, more or less, find out he was heading to the Seat of Infinity. It seems he was trying to defeat the revered and stop ascension, but ascend with him anyways. For Eredrim, he was trying to prove himself to become immortal anyways and so by completing the story that is sort him proving himself. For Tiel, he was consumed by tar and by the Sester which put him on the path of ascension. And then with Solomon, he believed in fate and so, blindly followed whatever path he was heading towards to which he would end up facing his brother who believed HE would ascend. I don't know, I'm not very good with figuring out vague stories and lore in an attempt to find some meaning. It's a good video and very interesting nonetheless.
@@TheSoCalledZoner1 For me, Hadern is meant to be the outlier. He represents the nihilist belief that the game upholds and reaches true ascension because of his denial towards the revered.
@@jmorel42 not weak, he has the most amount of stamina making him the strongest. He can stun attack to avoid getting hit on top of hardening, yeah I guess he’s weak if you plan on being hit. But this game gives you way too many chances. So if we’re getting real. 4 hits until his death. Sorry to be blunt, but he’s not weak, you just suck
Tiel was the shell I chose for my first play through and everything about him is very well crafted. I can't comprehend why people are ignoring him because of his low health. I mean yeah he goes down after a couple of hits but then just don't get hit. The devs gave him a lot of stamina to just dodge everything thrown at him and then counter with a devastating combo. Tiel is so much more fun than c.e. eredim! Git gud
@@elzarik8087 I'm a DS dex no shield player and I only died 5 times playing this game mostly to gravity. I'm better at these games than you. Trust me Tiel has an insanely low health pool too low to be viable might as well go no shell for even more stamina and movement speed
from what I learned from this Video: Harros is not the most fun guy in a Party, He's self-serving, self-righteous and arrogant in a way. He constantly looks down upon anyone he deem are beneath him, yet he threw away all his pride just to save his own neck on the verge of execution. Tiel is a helpless Drug Addict in the verge of death, poor guy even got an incurable disease he so desperately try to heal and he even tried a lot of methods, gruesome as it may be; ya boi Tiel's been suffering since the day he was born! Eredrim is actually scary, he doesn't hesitate to kill anyone if he sees them unfit, though his constant rejection by the Deathless Doctrine kinda reminds me of Anakin Skywalker being denied the seat of the Jedi in Prequels Trilogy. Solomon seems to be a great person to chat with, he seems to be a cool down-to-earth guy all around, and he's even cool with the future when he's about to die; and he's not even harboring any ill will or anger towards his soon-to-be-murderer as well, what a guy.
You find Solomon’s She’ll in a cave. The same place Harro’s meet a “priest”. He killed Solomon out of fear because Solomon already knew what Harro’s would do and told this to him, hence fulfilling the prophecy.
Mortal shell is surprisingly deep in terms of lore, no matter how you approach the interpretation. When you play it, nervous and excited you always wonder what the fuck you are into...Awesome.
I think eredrim was a servant of the immaculate the Executioner to be more exact if you look at his armor it's almost identical to the armor in the stone area lol I forget the name of it but yeah it's very possible he was her executioner who served so devoutly to her that when he didnt ascend like the others he seen as lessers he betrayed her and decided to kill them all for it
Teil is my favorite cause I relate to him the most but Solomon is the most interesting. I thought teil lost his face because of the ritual in the beginning. He saw someone sacrifice themselves and he was like “that looks cool, lemme try” and was permanently scarred (metaphor for drug use). He never recovered from the scars and died a drunk, longing for sester grenesha. Since the sester asked where the player found teil, I don’t think her returned. The sesters welcomes him with open arms when he first arrived.
I think you can supplement tbese stories with their endings. And by ending I mean the places where we find the shells. Putting the story and location together would probably fill in some blanks. I have no clue with what, tho.
You don’t need a 100+ hour bloated game when a 20 hour game like this is loaded with replayability. 5 playthroughs possible alone with just base content.
I have a question: if we drink the nektar, why all the people like The First Martyr, Imrod and Twiceborn attack us? Like when there was this one person who drank the nektar and he saw the immaculate why did Eredrim did not see the immaculate and instead saw an aggressive First Martyr. Please explain And at 11:08 how did eridrim feel her energy? Was it through the words of the ovate? And how does Eredrim end up in front of the seat of infinity if he was killed in front of the Immaculate by the ovate? And why does Eredrim wanna kill the brether if the brether was not even a part of the Immaculate’s religion and but was a part of the seat of infinity instead.
EREDRIM: suggested pronunciation is a cross between Erebor and Horadrim (latter is from the original Diablo). That sounds most suitable, and a lot less ridiculous. GENESSA: most likely is pronounced as "Jenessa", not unlike "Genesis".
it would b nice if you tuned the volume up a bit i much much rather have to turn my volume down a notch or two then have it all the way up and not b able to hear half of the sentence you just said i love to listen to your stuff in the background while im doing mindless task it makes life so much more bareable but when i have to stop and go back every 3 min bc i couldent hear what u said it makes me just go to someone else video..... just food for thought good luck !!
So, basically, literally the only shell that isn't a shell of a COMPLETE MORON is Solomon. Damn, man. I literally can't even play the other shells now, thankfully, Solomon kicks ass.
Great Game I'm doing a walkthrough of it right now, and I have to say this game is incredible! Come check it out if anyone cares to. Would be greatly appreciated.
WOAH there bro, he was poking... not beating lmao I personally think all the weapons are a little too weak when you’re under 2 quenching acid upgrades.
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If you’re harros, go through the seat of inifnity and talk to the robbed man contemplating suicide right before the shifting archives. He’ll recognizes harros and even have special dialogue for him, relieved to see that he “survived”. It makes me believe that taking out the seat of infinity was the special mission harros was sent on in the first place, but that might be wrong
then change eredrim and talk to him again, you will kill him and receive a glimpse.
I like Erdrim and Solomon's lore the most, but dig the designs of their shells a lot as well, especially Erdrim's helm. It looks like a crown was fitted to his helmet, and for some reason I'm reminded of Pontiff Sulivahn's face and crown.
Not just that: Eredrim projects strength and might, has a cool LOTR-style name.
But more importantly - playing as him, completely nullifies the game's attempts
at manufacturing artificial difficulty, stacked cheap kills, cheap cheat deaths and
other "gifts". Even balances out the Narthex level in NG+.
The gameplay in this video, unfortunately, is rather cringy and does not reflect that.
I do love Erdrim design and the pontiff connection you made makes me like him even more
@@HexenStar Yea because you dont give him this slow ass big sword against agile ghouls. Give him low stamina hammer (or starting sword), and he will be a destroyer.
@@HexenStar gamer
I think my favorite shell lore is Solomon’s. They’re all pretty elusive but I especially love the language Solomon uses.
He just seems like the most main character shell 🤷♀️ imo he’s the canonical main character/shell whatever especially when you consider the relationship with his brother and the way the game ends and begins shits just perfect
That Boi That sounds about right actually
@Chase Bond eredrim ptsd veteran
@@TheSoCalledZoner1 eredrim is my fav.
I bet Solomon would like Nietzsches works XD
Harros killed Solomon in my mind, because Solomon said that he knew the future and his future was death and Harros killed a man for knowing his future and you also find Solomon in a cave hidden away and Harros said he found the man in a cave after running away then was scared and killed him
Definitely agree
I think Harros was near a temple when he died. The evidence is in the environment around him.
If you look up in the area where the foundling wakes up after finishing the tutorial, you'll see a shattered cocoon above -- similar to the ones you the player end up leaving behind in the other temples. Once you crawl out of that area, you'll activate the Sester's checkpoint marker. The only other places where you find those are outside the three temples. In the same immediate area, you'll also find the petrified remains of people kneeling in supplication --- much like you see when you go to fight the Martyr. I think all of this suggests there were at least four revered and the crime Harros committed was killing one of them.
what if the fourth revered was... the player?
@@matinbahrami4721 and Hadern was the guardian?
The fourth revered was the creature you crawl out of at the start, your mother, so to speak. It was from her that you inherited your hardening powers.
@@spookytown7963 yeah it’s like some devil looking thing
Harros: an angry atheist knight
Erdrim: an excomunicated executioner/crusader
Tiel: a devoted priest with a terminal illness
Solomon: a scholar that died for the future
Harros may have died outside a temple that is no longer standing probably where the foundling first enters falgrim.
Erdrim may have tried to attack the sestrs but died just outside their area probably overwhelmed by the bandits.
Teil is more like devoted priest turned addict that caused a terminal illness
@@jmorel42 Imagine an man dying from an in curable disease like cancer and constantly on pain meds.
I honestly want to draw Tiel without his mask
@@forickgrimaldus8301 he was overdosing on tar.. your comparison to a cancer patient is a horrible one. Tiel is an addict not a sick person imbibing the tar for medicinal purposes
Wait a second.
Vassal killed Solomon. Solomon invited Vassal to heal him and he knew about what he will do. Vassal murdered him in fear, but Solomon didn't blame him because he knew what he will do
I always took it as the foundling being the "assailant". Solomon says he cannot resist his assailant and says he will be to slow to stop them, and then directly talks to the foundling afterwards. this makes me think he was only talking to the foundling, as an assailant isn't necessarily a murderer.
ultimately, Solomon's cause of death is irrelevant to the story and the character. the point was that Solomon seen the future, and new he would be incapable of stopping the foundling. he didn't know the circumstances that would lead to his possession. he only knew it was all significant, as his encounter with the foundling in death, would aid in the foundling's ascension.
we can still speculate on who killed Solomon, but i feel that Solomon himself wouldn't even care about who killed him, as he had seen the future and knew that death was only one step on the road to fulfill his fate
Sorry for the long post, there is just so many ways to take what Solomon says
@@carlub3369 K. Good stuff.
I just kinda conmected the dots in a way.
@@masterzoroark6664 all good, its nice to speculate
Theory: Harros was originally a knight of the seat of infinity. If you talk to brother Corvid, they’re apparently old friends and brether Corvid trusts him to find thestus. At the beginning of the game we see a giant opened shell of a mass of sinew and Harros nearby, near one of the sester’s markings. We can assume Harros was sent by the seat of infinity to kill a revered, was successful, and we crawl out of that revered’s body as it’s child
The writing/dialogue in this game was fucking impressive. There are so many indie souls-like games we get that just fall flat in that department
i really like tiel the most. his story shows a man with much promise dwindle down to absolute nothingness for the hope of feeling closer with his god as he consumes more tar, becoming so unrecognizable that hes even his brethren wont take him in anymore. his gameplay shows this too in a way, where he can run forever and dodge like a madman, but is far too squishy to take more than a couple of light attacks. he has reason to keep going, but his body is too weak to allow him to without constant careful care, needing the healing properties of the tar, or what he thinks is healing. just a nightmarish story to think about, but a fun shell to use along side the hammer and chisel
and solomon doesnt give a damn about the future about what happens anytime
i love this game so much and the incredible voice acting was such a surprise. really hope there's more coming.
Yeah, i was very surprised myself with that. Especially Genessa "Jenessa"
and the Old Prisoner. Too bad the game has no music.
Seems to be some kind of a stupid fashion of the last 2 decades.
Me too
@@HexenStar DLC music for bossfights was added by the band Rotting Christ!
I think your take on Tiel backstory is a little bit off the point to be honest. The order of the events mixed up and his relationship to the Shrine of Ash is missing.
Re-read his memories. The ritual of flame is a practice of the Shrine of Ash not the seat of infinity. He stat it cleary that he traveled to the seat of infinity which means it was never his origin.
And his relationship with Genessa as well.
From this video, I can't help but think of my own theory.
Each of these shells has their own story to tell and upon learning them, you could probably add the main story to them.
For Harros, you can, more or less, find out he was heading to the Seat of Infinity. It seems he was trying to defeat the revered and stop ascension, but ascend with him anyways.
For Eredrim, he was trying to prove himself to become immortal anyways and so by completing the story that is sort him proving himself.
For Tiel, he was consumed by tar and by the Sester which put him on the path of ascension.
And then with Solomon, he believed in fate and so, blindly followed whatever path he was heading towards to which he would end up facing his brother who believed HE would ascend.
I don't know, I'm not very good with figuring out vague stories and lore in an attempt to find some meaning. It's a good video and very interesting nonetheless.
and hadern?
@@TheSoCalledZoner1 For me, Hadern is meant to be the outlier. He represents the nihilist belief that the game upholds and reaches true ascension because of his denial towards the revered.
Definitely seems like Harros is actually the one who killed Solomon. That's dope.
It's interesting to me that Solomon concluded that there were no gods, when he so obviously treated fate as one.
Tiel is my favorite. The play style, character design. The dodge movement. All around tiel main.
He's insanely weak. One standard attack from a base enemy puts him at half health
@@jmorel42 not weak, he has the most amount of stamina making him the strongest. He can stun attack to avoid getting hit on top of hardening, yeah I guess he’s weak if you plan on being hit. But this game gives you way too many chances. So if we’re getting real. 4 hits until his death. Sorry to be blunt, but he’s not weak, you just suck
Tiel was the shell I chose for my first play through and everything about him is very well crafted. I can't comprehend why people are ignoring him because of his low health. I mean yeah he goes down after a couple of hits but then just don't get hit. The devs gave him a lot of stamina to just dodge everything thrown at him and then counter with a devastating combo.
Tiel is so much more fun than c.e. eredim!
Git gud
@@elzarik8087 I'm a DS dex no shield player and I only died 5 times playing this game mostly to gravity. I'm better at these games than you. Trust me Tiel has an insanely low health pool too low to be viable might as well go no shell for even more stamina and movement speed
@@jmorel42 “I’m better at these games than you” lol sure bud. Get your Mountain Dew and Doritos but never forget that fedora.
Love this game
from what I learned from this Video:
Harros is not the most fun guy in a Party, He's self-serving, self-righteous and arrogant in a way. He constantly looks down upon anyone he deem are beneath him, yet he threw away all his pride just to save his own neck on the verge of execution.
Tiel is a helpless Drug Addict in the verge of death, poor guy even got an incurable disease he so desperately try to heal and he even tried a lot of methods, gruesome as it may be; ya boi Tiel's been suffering since the day he was born!
Eredrim is actually scary, he doesn't hesitate to kill anyone if he sees them unfit, though his constant rejection by the Deathless Doctrine kinda reminds me of Anakin Skywalker being denied the seat of the Jedi in Prequels Trilogy.
Solomon seems to be a great person to chat with, he seems to be a cool down-to-earth guy all around, and he's even cool with the future when he's about to die; and he's not even harboring any ill will or anger towards his soon-to-be-murderer as well, what a guy.
You find Solomon’s She’ll in a cave. The same place Harro’s meet a “priest”. He killed Solomon out of fear because Solomon already knew what Harro’s would do and told this to him, hence fulfilling the prophecy.
Mortal shell is surprisingly deep in terms of lore, no matter how you approach the interpretation. When you play it, nervous and excited you always wonder what the fuck you are into...Awesome.
You forgot Hadern the deliverer
Eredrim is my fav cause he seems to be some highly respected royal executioner In the lore to some degree.. his my favorite thiccboy lol
I think eredrim was a servant of the immaculate the Executioner to be more exact if you look at his armor it's almost identical to the armor in the stone area lol I forget the name of it but yeah it's very possible he was her executioner who served so devoutly to her that when he didnt ascend like the others he seen as lessers he betrayed her and decided to kill them all for it
I feel that Tiel ended his life in the Monument of Ash, due to his dialogues about fire, and that Solomon is part of the Seat of Infinity.
Damm tiel is so sad he’s my favorite shell but dang is his story sad just a man consumed by tar poor guy amazing shell tho
Thank you vaati gingy
nice vid dood, cool to hear your interpretation
Hey my dude nice seeing you here
You're a true chad for this vid
Teil is my favorite cause I relate to him the most but Solomon is the most interesting. I thought teil lost his face because of the ritual in the beginning. He saw someone sacrifice themselves and he was like “that looks cool, lemme try” and was permanently scarred (metaphor for drug use). He never recovered from the scars and died a drunk, longing for sester grenesha. Since the sester asked where the player found teil, I don’t think her returned. The sesters welcomes him with open arms when he first arrived.
Thank you. You alone have full coverage on Mortal Shell lore.
Dang..soliman and teils lore are just..wow
While I thought Shell could have been longer, the few we got were pretty good quality and they had what I felt to be a VERY unique art style.
I think you can supplement tbese stories with their endings. And by ending I mean the places where we find the shells. Putting the story and location together would probably fill in some blanks. I have no clue with what, tho.
So wait, tiel was just a drug addict?
Imagine Drug Addict with crocodile drug that rot his flesh, which explain his hollow eyes socket lol
Meth, not even once :(
Holy crap I want to get this game but i feel like it's not long enough
It’s $30. Give it a shot and you’ll enjoy what time you do spend with it.
You don’t need a 100+ hour bloated game when a 20 hour game like this is loaded with replayability. 5 playthroughs possible alone with just base content.
Lovely video bro keep up the good work. Subbed 👍
I didn't find the one with alot of stamina but I think Solomon may be my favorite but I finished the game with eredium,if that's spelled right.
solomon a real g for this one
I have a question: if we drink the nektar, why all the people like The First Martyr, Imrod and Twiceborn attack us? Like when there was this one person who drank the nektar and he saw the immaculate why did Eredrim did not see the immaculate and instead saw an aggressive First Martyr. Please explain
And at 11:08 how did eridrim feel her energy? Was it through the words of the ovate?
And how does Eredrim end up in front of the seat of infinity if he was killed in front of the Immaculate by the ovate?
And why does Eredrim wanna kill the brether if the brether was not even a part of the Immaculate’s religion and but was a part of the seat of infinity instead.
Perhaps it was haros who killed solomon?
What's that lofi at the end? 🥰
Teil man she loved you man
I think my favorite stories are of Tiel and Solomon
EREDRIM: suggested pronunciation is a cross between Erebor and Horadrim
(latter is from the original Diablo). That sounds most suitable, and a lot less ridiculous.
GENESSA: most likely is pronounced as "Jenessa", not unlike "Genesis".
Tiel is the best
Excellent video!
Make more Night City lore videos!
I love this game
it would b nice if you tuned the volume up a bit i much much rather have to turn my volume down a notch or two then have it all the way up and not b able to hear half of the sentence you just said i love to listen to your stuff in the background while im doing mindless task it makes life so much more bareable but when i have to stop and go back every 3 min bc i couldent hear what u said it makes me just go to someone else video..... just food for thought good luck !!
Nice.
I honestly think that all four shells were a part of the same order after all something brought them there
nice
You got Harros's story completely out of order and misunderstood it.
So, basically, literally the only shell that isn't a shell of a COMPLETE MORON is Solomon. Damn, man. I literally can't even play the other shells now, thankfully, Solomon kicks ass.
He, in my opinion, has the most balance, in HP, Stamina, and WILL, in game play.
Tiel's is completely wrong
Great Game I'm doing a walkthrough of it right now, and I have to say this game is incredible! Come check it out if anyone cares to. Would be greatly appreciated.
Jesus christ how weak is the marty's blade. He's literally beating the shit out of two standard enemies for a minute straight 06:57
WOAH there bro, he was poking... not beating lmao I personally think all the weapons are a little too weak when you’re under 2 quenching acid upgrades.
Laughs in quenching acid+5 hollow sword
Laughs in quenching acid+10 hammer and chissle
Tf are you on? I tried Martyr's +5 the other day and if your going against multiple opponents you absolutely clap them