Don't care what anyone else says, seeing this series return under the editorial of a veteran souls player vs your initial videos is a fun perspective to see as well as some nice nostalgia.
Oceiros above nameless is kind of wild. Agree nameless isn't as hard as people initial thought but I've never really been troubled by oceiros. He's inconsistent in speedruns sure but in a standard playthrough you really shouldn't die if you take your time
I do agree that NK definitely takes much more time to properly learn... But after a while Oceiros is far worse and takes more time, cause he's far "dirtier" with hit boxes and moves. So from a "veteran" standpoint it makes sense to put NK as easier, cause once you learn his moves you won't really lose anymore, whereas with Oceiros you can easily get fooled
@@igornaimoli7321 This is why Dancer is also above NK imo. NK's biggest challenge was the weird timings on his attacks, but once you learn them he does the same exact stuff all the time. Oceiros and Dancer both have the potential to do completely random attacks in different situations. Two fights with either boss will never look the same.
Easy by Elden Ring standards but, even if it’s unpopular, I think this game is the series at its best when it comes to balancing difficulty, spectacle and intuitive gameplay. It will always be up there with Bloodborne for my favorite but in that specific department related to boss design, it takes the cake for me
Fr. Ds3 bosses overall r just way better quality but ER has some amazing bosses as well. Compared to ds3, ER's has more mid to bad bosses. But what pisses me off the most is that FS literally perfected gank fights in ds3, and then threw all of that away in ER for some bullshit difficulty. Even with summons, the ER gank fights aren't fun.
I can't figure out why but DS3 is still much harder for me to master than Elden Ring. I went from DS1 -> DS3 -> Elden Ring and ER is by far the easiest. I'm not saying this to try and sound cool. I haven't even played Shadow of the Erdtree yet, but it took me far longer to beat Lothric than it did Melania. Jumping is kinda OP in a souls game
@@colem631I'm the opposite. Very few DS3 enemies and bosses put out a challenge for me. ER has gotten easier over time, but I've also spent over 400 hours in that game so it makes sense. 🤷
With all due respect. How the actual shitting dicks is Crystal Sage harder than Lothric and Lorian XD. And don’t get me started on Oceiros being harder than Nameless, this list is crazy…
This guy is so full of shit almost all his videos have bullshit like that 😂 gonna stop watching this just had to be sure he was full of shit before I stopped
Dude fr bro over leveled for the hard bosses and then thought the early game bosses were harder bc he wasn’t as overpowered… I don’t care if people use overpowered builds but it’s annoying when they think their opinion matters when they killed Pontiff in 5 hits
People who pretend that hard games and bosses are easy, remind me of the World of Warcraft nerd on South Park. Covered in zits and obese beyond measure, going in with a totally overpowered character and hundreds or thousands of hours of play and saying it's too easy
Lothric above Crystal Sage is definitely something. I feel like just from an objective standpoint Crystal Sage is way way way easier than Twin Princes.
You should be aware that you don’t actually have to kill Argo in the Halflight fight. If you just wait for him to do his spiel, he’ll just stand there, do nothing, and eventually die as soon as Halflight gets summoned.
its very weird because in his very first Ringed City review video he literally says it himself that fighting Argo or not doesn't matter. Like, istg the dude got so depressed over the blacklash over his SOTE critique that he got himself a mental reset that ended up resetting his memory too. He even sounds extremely different in his recent videos. Makes me sad ngl.
@@grfrjiglstan he literally speedran this game hundreds of times. Including many boss rushes. There is no way in hell that he can forget an actual boss mechanic, let alone one about whether you should or shouldn't fight an enemy. That's like forgetting that you dont have to kill the other deacons, only the red marked ones. I was thinking of the possibility that maybe he wanted to kill Argo so the fight would start faster, but that doesn't happen either. Even if you kill him, he still finishes his entire monologue before the fight can even start.
@@grfrjiglstan maybe he didn't feel the need to clarify you dont need to fight him since everyone alreadys knows, and wanted to just comment on how fromsoft didn't care about adjusting the camera to Argo if you DO decide to fight him. That's the only possible explanation and i admit that i didn't think of that before.
@@nicecoat5004 His sote critique wasn't even that bad. Yh he made some bad points but overall, it really wasn't that bad. But souls fans being souls fans, also just used the bad points to misinterpret and disregard everything else that were actually good critiques.
Even in light of Bayle the Dread, I still believe Midir is Fromsoftware's best dragon. The idea of going face-to-face with a dragon in a series where you typically nip at their ankles was an amazing decision, and while you can do that to an extent with Bayle, I find Bayle does overshoot with a lot of attacks where he ends up on top of you, and his bulky frame makes it easier to take hits on his backside before he can get you out from under him. All hail Midir. His difficulty may be diminished when you know how to fight him, but he's still a master class of how to do a large sized boss.
Always dodge backwards or towards the right for Bayle. He won't overshoot then. Should be pretty obvious that if he's moving towards you and you dodge forwards, obviously you'll end up under him. The same is true for Midir.
Midir is simply more consistent than Bayle which means he's better imo. Bayle has a better moveset but your options are limited by jank which is unfortunate.
Why would you nip at Bayle ankles under any circumstance. There is no position where it's more advantageous to hit his head instead if you're ever under him you can just reposition yourself.
1:43 Deacons of the deep 2:26 High lord wolnir 3:20 Ancient Wyvern 4:03 Yhorm the giant 4:41 Old demon king 5:08 Curse rotten great wood 5:30 Vordt of the boreal valley 6:06 ludex gundyr 6:45 champion gravetender/wolf 7:20 abyss watchers 8:14 lothric twin princes 9:20 half light spear of the church 10:55 crystal sage 12:05 pontiff sulyvahn 12:45 champion gundyr 13:16 Aldrich devoured of gods 14:20 dragon slayer armour 15:17 nameless king 16:30 ocerios the consumed king 16:58 dancer of the boreal valley 17:53 soul of cinder 18:40 demon princes 19:30 slave knight gael 20:55 sister friede 22:38 darkeater midir
Hey Dmod here’s a tip, on the Nameless King when he does the charged lightning attack that “homes in on you” like you described at 15:46, you can “dodge” it by simply unlocking on from him, and turning your camera around so your character and camera are facing AWAY from him and just stand still, the lightning will never hit you. Trust me, try it.
I believe that shit also works in PVP to the point you had to free aim the weapon art to land it on players who were aware of the trick... or not, it's been 5 years since I put down my sword.
@@andrewsrjohnson96 He's easier than Friede since his moves are quite predictable and Midir has literally god levels of HP. A fight that long just means more opportunities to make a mistake that gets you killed.
@@kevingriffith677big HP means nothing. Every single one of his attacks are heavily telegraphed and he just leaves his head right open. He’s way easier than Gael and Friede
Comically, I found Nameless King to be significantly less difficult than Champion Gundyr during my first playthrough. Even WITH having to cleave through King of Storms every runback, I spent longer on Gundyr than I did on Gwyn's disowned progeny. It was the hockey checks and rear-kicks. They did not play nicely with my UGS speed deficit. Personally, I think Fume was harder. But that might be more to do with DS2's slightly more jank controls.
For my money Friede takes my spot as the hardest boss in the three Souls games. If you don't have a weapon that staggers her on hit, you are in a world of pain. And taking into account that she can recover in an instant and jump out of your range.
I fought the 3 big dlc bosses for the first time a couple of months ago, and I was able to beat gael and midir on my 1st and 3rd try. Friede took me maybe 10 to 15 tries. She was a bitch
DLC Radahn is probably the hardest I've faced followed by Sister Friede. Although, those two might soon be over taken by Isshin from Sekiro here soon from the from software games.
The community ranking only included the base game bosses so I'm using the 7 year old initial DLC ranking for this one. Yes, it was seven years since Ringed City. Yes, I feel old. 25- Deacons of the Deep. Down by 2. Original 25: Wolnir 24- Wolnir. Up by 1. Original 24: Iudex Gundyr 23- Ancient Wyvern. Down by 4. Original 23: Deacons of the Deep 22- Yhorm. No Change 21- Old Demon King. Down by 6. Original 21: Curse Rotted Greatwood 20- Curse Rotted Greatwood. Up by 1. Original 20: Vordt 19- Vordt. Up by 1. Original 19: Ancient Wyvern 18- Iudex Gungnir. Up by 6. Original 18: Crystal Sage 17- Grave Watchers. Down by 1. Original 17: Abyss Watchers 16- Abyss Watchers. Up by 1. Original 16: Grave Watchers 15- Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10. Original 15: Old Demon King 14- Halflight. No Change. 13- Crystal Sage. Up by 5. Original 13: Dragonslayer Armour 12- Pontiff Sulyvahn. No Change. 11- Champion Gundyr. Down by 2. Original 11: Aldrich 10- Aldrich. Up by 1. Original 10: Oceiros 9- Dragonslayer Armour. Up by 4. Original 9: Champion Gundyr 8- Nameless King. Down by 2. Original 8: Soul of Cinder 7- Oceiros. Up by 3. Original 7: Demon Princes 6- Dancer. Down by 3. Original 6: Nameless King 5- Soul of Cinder. Up by 3. Original 5: Lothric and Lorian 4- Demon Princes. Up by 2. Original 4: Sister Friede 3- Gael. Down by 1. Original 3: Dancer 2- Freide. Up by 2. Original 2: Gael 1- Midir. No Change. Biggest Gain: Iudex Gundyr. Up by 6. Biggest Loss: Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10.
Ds3 is the best game in the dark souls trilogy It has the highest quality of bosses,spectacular level design and immaculately balanced difficulty,the bosses might not have been the hardest in the series,but I had more fun fighting the princes and nameless than even the best bosses in ds2 because ds2 is simply too slow,but ds3 has bloodborne's faster combat blended seamlessly into its action economy,making it just fast enough to keep my attention and just enough of a challenge to give me a sense of achievement when I overcome a boss...
I’m gonna disagree with you on the part about level design buddy. Admittedly the drab color palette may play some part in it but these levels are a total drag to get through. They’re just…not fun. I think, with the exception of Farron Keep and MAYBE the Painted World of Ariandel, they’re too linear. This may be a bit of a hot take but I honestly prefer Blighttown from DS1 to most of these levels. My biggest issue with that area is just how much distance there is between the Depths Bonfire and the first Blighttown Bonfire. Once you get past that, the area’s not so bad. The toxic dart guys are annoying but the rest of the area is interestingly designed and both the lighting and color palette make it look very unique. DS3’s areas are just boring.
@@KingCasual1986 Saying you prefer blight town over any levels in ds3 is a wild statement,regardless I kinda see why people wouldn't like it since alot of the areas just kinda feel like really long run-ups to the bosses,which are immaculate but it's like having a dinner consisting of only main courses,no soup,no appetizer,just full main dishes...
I recently replayed every DS game and tbh the only thing that made DS3 better than DS2 for me is the DLC. Irithyl Dungeon and Farron Keep really bring my rating of DS3 down I'd rather deal with the Black Gulch in DS2 any day... DS2 has much more charm for me. DS1 has best world design, DS2 has the best looking environments and DS3 has the best combat
Placing Midir on #1 just tells me you've still not understood the fight imo. He's way more straight forward than any of the other top picks. Both on my first playthrough and now years later as a veteran, Midir is an incredible and great fun fight, but in no way does he top Friede or even Gael in difficulty.
different people find different bosses hard, I definitely struggled more and needed more attempts at midir than I did Gael, and about the same as Frieda
This guy ranked these bosses off of his broken build so that’s why his rankings make no sense. It’s fine to use powerful builds but if you are making a boss ranking video, I feel like you should actually experience the full moveset of each boss instead of powering through it as quickly as possible. It is very telling that he ranked Midir as hardest because it’s one of the fights that takes longer so he had to actually use his brain lmao
Really feel a ranking is skewed if you are playing NG+ with ranked up weapons. NG runs are so different due to experience and gear. I do understand it’s impossible to go back to that first ever experience however
This ranking was kinda dumb tbh. Bro literally killed Pontiff in like 5 hits… how would he know how difficult a boss is if the boss never even gets to attack him?? Lol
@@Celatra so you argument is that he is an easy boss because 1 specific style of play works really well on him? Then every boss in Dark Souls is easy. Not saying Pontiff is like extremely hard but he is definitely difficult when not parrying.
So, correct me if I’m wrong, he’s basing this list off of a run where he used a weapon that’s overleveled for half of the bosses he fought instead of their actual movesets and difficulty
It's almost like he used his knowledge of the game to get as powerful as possible. Gasp, how dare he. Everyone knows the only valid way to rank souls bosses is through playing the game with a +1 dingleberry
@ that’s not what I’m saying tho I’m saying he’s not basing the list off of what the boss actually is and just an overpowered run he did. Don’t get me wrong I’m fine with people playing the game who they want get as overpowered as you like but it just doesn’t seem that that’s the way you should base your boss ranking off of which is off of the boss
It's crazy that you re-make this list now, as I've just completed my first play through of DS3! Super interesting to hear a veteran's take on all the bosses. I've seen your original boss ranking, so I wasn't going into any of the boss fights completely blind. And as you say, after the unrelenting ferocity and speed of Elden Ring bosses, this game's roster felt quite easy, but still very enjoyable. Here's how many times I died to each boss! First try:Deacons(lol), Yorm, Greatwood, Vort, Gunder1, Crystal Sage, Pontif, Aldritch, Dragon Slayer Armor, Consumed King, and to my surprise, Soul of Cinder. 1 death: Ancient Wyvern (he moved his head just as I jumped down to kill him!), Old Demon King, Gunder2, Twin princes, and Dancer 5 deaths: Abyss Watchers. Not quite sure why they had my number for a bit. I was playing spear and shield until I met these guys, the shredded my stamina. Then I switched to that big exile curve sword found on the Faron NPC, and that was way better. 10ish/lost count: Not sure how many times I died, I was just having so much fun with the boss, I didn't really care! It wasn't too many, took me less than a half hour. It was the first boss that challenged me, and you're right felt very elden ring-esc. The camera sucked ass though during the first phase. I'm now taking on the DLC, looking forward to gael and Freide!
Did a DS3 run after putting in literal thousands of hours into Elden Ring the past two years, and jeez is this game a breeze now. Even the old nightmares like Nameless King were a snooze because of how limited his moveset actually is. The only boss I died to was Midir because I got cocky and didn't have enough heals. Compared to Bayle though he was very manageable. And Midir used to be that unbeatable boss for me too. Not anymore.
Elden ring is by far the hardest fromsoft game imo. After I played Elden Ring I breezed through all the other games without a lot of resistance. Ds3 was my first souls game back in 2017 and that felt really hard, but compared to what Elden Ring has to offer it cant compete
Dark souls 1 is better. It's slow and simple, the way I like it. A game where I can use my basic Elite Knight Build with a sword and board, and not suffer the whole time.
@@James-kv3ll i dunno. 3 is fun and all, but after I get accustomed to it, it always feels easy. 1 and 2 give me a challenge no matter how much I prepare and grow. 3 also just has the most bland setting so....
Love the ranking and recently i've been playing ds3 again and this brings back memories of when i first started playing ds from struggling on dancer only to realize vort was the boss need to be killed all the way to slave knight gale bullying till io learnt his attack patterns
To this day my top three are Midir, Gael, and Friede in said order. After beating elden ring and its DLC I should revisit the trio. Great video, cheers 🍻
Heyyy Dmod long time viewer here, I don't comment much however I felt the need for this one as i have a very interesting perspective on the crystal sage. I have some very slight color blindness, to the point that the "purple" magic as you call it looks like a very VERY VERY!!! slightly darker blue, so for me at least the crystal sage in phase 2 is an absolute nightmare and as such I have to go and plow through watchers and Wolnir before attempting sage otherwise I'm just going to get angry at something completely out of my own control, and while I'm sure there's color blindness settings I can use it's such a small amount of color blindness that I don't want to change the entire game just for 1 boss. So for that reason alone I actually agree with the ranking of him in this list. I too abuse the homing soul mass attack as if you walk around him to his right his final bullet can never fire making him never able to teleport making phase 1 easily able to rush down the entire health bar. The few times I have messed up and gotten to phase 2 either for a improperly timed parry or maybe just getting too greedy and letting his final bullet shoot phase 2 absolute demolishes me due to the color blindness. Thankfully I've learned that the purple sage actually spawns in a fraction of a second sooner and can only be against a wall with those things in mind I'm able to handle phase 2 but its a slog and an absolute nightmare especially with the lack of plentiful Estus at this point in the game. Imagine a new player with my color blindness stumbling into this fight with a +1 straight sword and then imagine their reaction to hitting 3 sages in a row without doing damage to the health bar, instantly that person will never want to play another game again because the "gimmick" makes the fight too difficult not even understanding why it is that its so much more difficult for them than any guide they see on TH-cam or the wiki pages. Now while I don't believe there's many issues with ds3 as a whole I can definitely understand why people would say sage is harder than people think he is
Didn't expect all the trading(or face tanking) against Midir despite the knowledge. When I returned to DS3 recently after not touching it for a very long time, I still remembered to walk backwards to neuter the threat of his melee attacks, and then walk in for a whiff punish, which works for weapons of any speed, even charged R2s of a UGS.
Nameless will always have a special place in my heart as he was the first souls boss I spent hours and days learning, truly learning every of his moves and actions. (DS3 was my first Souls). I'm more likely to die to Vordt than to him ^^
If we're talking ng7, I'd say gael takes the cake. Even on a fully leveled character, that damn cape makes me glad to have popped tears of denial on. The damage is unforgiving but fair, the move set is relentless, making it feel like you're in the matrix once you've learned how to dodge correctly. Absolute cinema
I mean, he's basically been forced to make these in order to claw back some viewership. I don't blame him for not being as enthusiastic making the same video a dozen times over
i like to think i have a good bit if experience in the high level of difficulty in ds3 bc ive done an sl1 run and im on ng+26 which means ive done 19 runs at max difficulty and my list would be way different than this but dmod definitely has even more experience than i do so what do i know i just feel like the logic is kinda weird like old demon king got a low ranking because you can outlevel him and beat his ass and crystal sage got a high ranking because it can be hard if youre underprepared which is inconsistent ranking logic and yea old demon king is not hard but id definitely say he is more challenging than crystal sage with a good, balanced build, especially for new players my buddies died way more to odk when i made them play. just an example like one was low because its easy if you outlevel it and the other was high because its hard if you underlevel it like yea man
This ranking was kinda stupid tbh. He didn’t even experience a lot of the bosses full movesets in the fights. Shouldn’t you actually fight a boss if you are gonna rank the difficulty instead of trying to use over leveled equipment? Idk it’s just dumb. He killed Pontiff in only 5 hits and I’m supposed to care about his opinion on the difficulty? Not to hate but it’s just weird.
@ i agree that the ranking is dumb but this guy has been making videos about ds3 since it came out, he has definitely fought the bosses at least a couple dozen times. so have i tho and i heavily disagree with his rankings. but yea even tho the footage doesnt really show in the video i am sure this guy is very familiar with their movesets
Ok I normally wouldn't ever leave an even vaguely negative comment but this video just confuses me so much. it feels like half the time it is going off of how powerful you can be before the fight, with a early game maxed out weapon (which doesn't really make sense to me to judge these bosses that way), but it also is inconsistent about this which makes the rating seem a little unfair? this also doesn't make any sense to do for ds3 due to how linear it is, 99% of players won't fight dancer right away or even before fighting both Yhorm and Aldrich so why is this kind of playthrough used as the main example? like i understand playing through the game this way but why use it if you are ranking the bosses on how hard they are and better yet why be inconsistent about it. (this isn't even talking in general around some of the uhh questionable choices)
He’s definitely the hardest boss in DS3 for me as well. I do think there are quite a few bosses in other Soulsborne games who are harder than him tho (such as Laurence, Demon of Hatred, Consort Radahn, and Malenia)
DS3 is probably the weirdest of the Souls games to revisit. Knowing about skips like the tree jump and the two Cathedral shortcuts, almost all the friction the game has to offer is pared down to a minimum. Everyone just blitzes Vordt, jumps off the cliff for Yoel’s free levels, etc. On the bright side, No Storm Yhorm is a great time, and essentially reclaims a gimmick boss into a genuine fight.
You realize there are strategies like this in every DS game? Every single game has shortcuts and tricks to get things faster/easier. That's the purpose of a speedrun. Also, nobody is forcing you to use the Tree Jump or any other shortcut, that's up to how you play the game.
One of my proudest soulsborne moments is still beating Midir on my first try on my first playthrough with a dark exile curved greatsword not even considering that it would do less damage. It must've been a 15 minute fight, I ran out of sunny d around the halfway mark and had about 200 health left for the last third. Only taking the safest possible openings until I beat him
You know what’s crazy? Deacons of the Deep and Curse Rotted Greatwood are still awesome boss fights, so it really puts in perspective how amazing the bosses in this game are. DS3 is forever the Boss GOAT.
Cruse Rotted Greatwood is a definitely a horrible boss. Deacons is not bad from a lore prospective. Bur gameplay wise it doesn’t even really feel like a boss fight since it’s basically just a bunch of fodder enemies with red eyes
I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but Iudex Gundyr's jump slam attack can be parried in the first phase. I was a little bewildered when I saw it, but adding another attack that can be parried really speeds up the fight, I think.
While Abyss Watchers are my favorite boss, seeing them so low doesnt really surprise me. Thats part of why i like them. Theyre the first lord of cinder you fight and for a new player, they set a tone without feeling overwhelming. Plus with the environmental story telling all through farron keep leading up to them hinting at the assist you get, the whole fight feels like a test of what youve learned in the first 1/4 as ipposed to an obstacle. It's a well designed, fair, early game test.
What I find interesting is how my tier list is vastly different from yours purely because my runs are always like a glass cannon So some bosses like Soul of Cinder are higher than ones liek Friede. Especially for a no hit run. I've been attempting that for a while and my goodness, certain bosses are ridiculous
Ds3 was my first souls game all those years ago and I’ve since fallen in love with the genre and I remember dragon slayer armor was easily the hardest boss for me back then I was stuck on him for so long I don’t know why easily one of my favorite bosses looking back at it now
The Watchers were difficult for my first few playthroughs, because I wasn't used to the quick moveset and didn't know how to min-max weapons early. But later, they were the easiest Lord of Cinder for me.
DS3 was my first souls game when I played it in 2017 and the watchers were my first and only ever real roadblock in a game. Feels weird how it took me multiple days of giving up and coming back to beat them and now they feel like a walk in the park. Never experienced anything like that again in a souls game or any game for that matter
Hot take: I think Demon Princes are actually harder than the Friede and Father gank in the 2nd phase. For one thing, Father is not as big as the Demon Princes to the point where it gets hard to read his moves. Just don't get too greedy and watch for the occasional ice floor attack from Friede and use the healing window to wallop on the Father more. For Demon Princes, you will likely spend half the time being under one of them, which makes you susceptible to counterattack from the other one. Or heck, they will just both go so aggro on you that you won't have room to breathe, let alone attack! And just like 3rd phase of Friede, you aren't out of the woods in that 2nd phase of Demon Prince! You still gotta dodge everything from big sweeps, slams, charges, and projectiles. And with a pretty girthy health pool, Demon Prince is an endurance fight akin to Midir and Nameless King. Good luck finding a consistent way back through that 1st phase when you make costly mistakes that end your run. 😟
In my first play trough, the hardest for me was lothric and lorian. I died so many times there, that this spot there marks my grave, but they may rest there too
I just started playing this game again after like 3 years. I just finished ringed city for the first time. I beat the twin princes my first time after only 1 day of playing on my old character. After several days I noticed I hadn't beaten the NK on that character yet. I've tried 5 times now.... Oh I also beat Gael my 2nd time, but still can't beat NK. I got Midir down to 25% health my 2nd try then he beat me the next 4 times. Boss difficulty and how it affects everyone differently is crazy. Several years ago I gave up on Freide. I probably tried it over 15 times. Then day one of getting back into it I beat her.
Do you think it be too much to do a video of the top 10 hardest bosses from Dark souls 1-3 and Elden ring? To see which game has the true hardest bosses?
For anyone who is somehow having a hard time with the Crystal Sage, just bring some throwing knives, the clones have 1 hp, so a single throwing knife per clone is all you need to make it a 1v1.
So I’m currently halfway through the video (crystal sage) and I have 2 things to note. 1. The spear of the church fight NEVER goes as easy against a real player regardless of how many resources the host has as long as the boss isn’t stupid. I have videos of me absolutely decimating ganks as the boss and having so many heals stacked. 2. To make the second phase of crystal sage easier just carry throwing knives. The clones die from literally 1 damage so you’re not wasting time. Git gud newb
In the base game, I've died much more to Nameless than I have Soul. Soul just felt like a Hunter fight from Bloodborne to me and I had gotten so used to those that Nameless was the first major challenge when I started DS3, followed by Aldrich when I tried to play a mage
I agree with you on Midir. Seeing this list really brings back memories. As much as I would like to revisit Bloodborne, it becomes more and more difficult every year as it feels more and more outdated. If only Sony would give us a remaster.
Question, when is a jedi survivor video coming out? When I beat fallen order your videos about it's bosses popped up and I just beat jedi survivor and was anxious to hear your takes.
Always cool to get a different perspective as someone who has played these games a lot and over a long period of time (so your skill and play style evolved). I think for me Nameless King will remain king of hard for DS3. He always takes me the longest to kill. I played Elden Ring as my 1st Souls game but I guess I never learn delays properly lol. But DS3 stood out to me playing these games, I just love the bosses and think that as a whole DS3 has the best boss line up. From the dancer on is just banger after banger. (tho I have not played Sekiro or Bloodbourne).
How did Soul of Cinder climb so high? Maybe I'll have a different perspective if I were to go back to it now after playing Elden Ring, but for me, his fight was never hard.
Fight him at level 1...🙄 Soul of Cinder is easily the hardest boss in the base game. It's not even close tbh. Actually even with the DLC only Friede beats him.
Phase 1 has easily the most complex moveset out of DS3 bosses. On a normal run, he just doesn't have enough HP or do enough damage to be a threat. He's a lot worse on challenge runs like sl1 where you're forced to be consistent and can't hit trade
Its crazy how bosses in this game were great for its time, bur now compared to ER, every boss feels like 0.5 version of its ER counterpart. Just shows how much FromSoft improved in combat balance and boss design.
@@Nrzpokrter I strongly disagree. Friede, Gael, Nameless and Twin princess are better than pretty much every base game ER boss. They are fun fights but often over complicated and rely on delayed attacks so much
@villek3722 unlike Nameless king or twin pronces who dont rely on nameless attacks... right? But ok, if you prefer simplistic bosses and want to only spam roll and light attack for the win, I get that you prefer ds3. I like that Fromsoftware evolved from that tho.
@@Nrzpokrter it exactly same in elden ring tho😂 you just have to spam roll longer since those combos are so long. Or then they have ridiculous attacks like water fowl and moghs undodgeable aoe🤷♂️
Midir is one of if not my favorite dragon design, but I don't know if I agree that its the hardest DS3 boss. All of its attacks have a pretty easy window to attack his head, I dont see how that makes him hard
One thing people don't really pay attention to is fire can wipe your frostbite status effect hence letting friede frostbite you again Never seen such thing in any other boss ever
No boss has ever taken me longer than nameless king did in 2016. Melania/consort Rhadan on paper are so much harder but when I played ds3 for the first time I was stuck on nameless for so much longer than the bosses in elden ring
I’ve been replaying dark souls 3 (and going past where I left off in the ringed city). I’m fighting the bosses on my own and I’ve generally been enjoying it a lot more than my first time playing the game with my claymore. For some reason, my claymore never seemed like it did good damage while my weapons and spells do pretty good damage in this run. I beat Friede a few days ago and it was definitely the hardest fight so far, but by the time I beat her, I ended up enjoying the fight.
Midir felt so much easier for me imo than sister friede... that dragons attacks felt so natural for me, i didnt struggle much everytime i fought it. Friede on the other hand drove me fucking nuts.
You really ought to do this kind of analysis on the bosses in MGR: Revengeance. Some of those bosses are works of art. Was bummed you didn't click with that game.
@@soulsmasterxw7373 If you only give them one run on Normal, you miss so much genius about their design. So many moves and combo variations. You have a counter to everything, but it is a lot. So fun to master.
Don't care what anyone else says, seeing this series return under the editorial of a veteran souls player vs your initial videos is a fun perspective to see as well as some nice nostalgia.
Right? Don't get the hate over this series, like people somehow want him to re hash his old vids instead of doing something new
@@dangredux2003He could just add (revisited) or something to the title and that‘s it.
"editorial of a veteran souls player vs your initial videos" Wdym by this? I'm confused.
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@@deadmanplays2684 revisited could scare away new people who have not seen the original
Oceiros above nameless is kind of wild. Agree nameless isn't as hard as people initial thought but I've never really been troubled by oceiros. He's inconsistent in speedruns sure but in a standard playthrough you really shouldn't die if you take your time
He's in my top 3 favourite bosses. Iv never struggled with him that much, but iv never done a level 1 playthrough.
I do agree that NK definitely takes much more time to properly learn... But after a while Oceiros is far worse and takes more time, cause he's far "dirtier" with hit boxes and moves.
So from a "veteran" standpoint it makes sense to put NK as easier, cause once you learn his moves you won't really lose anymore, whereas with Oceiros you can easily get fooled
@@igornaimoli7321 This is why Dancer is also above NK imo. NK's biggest challenge was the weird timings on his attacks, but once you learn them he does the same exact stuff all the time. Oceiros and Dancer both have the potential to do completely random attacks in different situations. Two fights with either boss will never look the same.
"...take your time"
There's the problem, Demod has zero patience.
the hardest part of oceriros is getting his tail without accidentally killing him
Easy by Elden Ring standards but, even if it’s unpopular, I think this game is the series at its best when it comes to balancing difficulty, spectacle and intuitive gameplay. It will always be up there with Bloodborne for my favorite but in that specific department related to boss design, it takes the cake for me
Fr. Ds3 bosses overall r just way better quality but ER has some amazing bosses as well. Compared to ds3, ER's has more mid to bad bosses. But what pisses me off the most is that FS literally perfected gank fights in ds3, and then threw all of that away in ER for some bullshit difficulty. Even with summons, the ER gank fights aren't fun.
Absolutely… I don’t think DS3 has a single bad boss… it’s amazing quality.
The decons are too easy but they are still cool as hell
@@bingobongo1615 The decons r manageable if u use something like the claymore, which takes out a lot of them together.
I can't figure out why but DS3 is still much harder for me to master than Elden Ring. I went from DS1 -> DS3 -> Elden Ring and ER is by far the easiest. I'm not saying this to try and sound cool. I haven't even played Shadow of the Erdtree yet, but it took me far longer to beat Lothric than it did Melania. Jumping is kinda OP in a souls game
@@colem631I'm the opposite. Very few DS3 enemies and bosses put out a challenge for me. ER has gotten easier over time, but I've also spent over 400 hours in that game so it makes sense. 🤷
With all due respect. How the actual shitting dicks is Crystal Sage harder than Lothric and Lorian XD. And don’t get me started on Oceiros being harder than Nameless, this list is crazy…
This guy is so full of shit almost all his videos have bullshit like that 😂 gonna stop watching this just had to be sure he was full of shit before I stopped
Dude fr bro over leveled for the hard bosses and then thought the early game bosses were harder bc he wasn’t as overpowered… I don’t care if people use overpowered builds but it’s annoying when they think their opinion matters when they killed Pontiff in 5 hits
Lothric's placement is WILD 😅
Fr one of the hardest for me
People who pretend that hard games and bosses are easy, remind me of the World of Warcraft nerd on South Park. Covered in zits and obese beyond measure, going in with a totally overpowered character and hundreds or thousands of hours of play and saying it's too easy
Lothric above Crystal Sage is definitely something. I feel like just from an objective standpoint Crystal Sage is way way way easier than Twin Princes.
If his list were at higher NG levels, it would be way different. Or SL1.
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You should be aware that you don’t actually have to kill Argo in the Halflight fight. If you just wait for him to do his spiel, he’ll just stand there, do nothing, and eventually die as soon as Halflight gets summoned.
its very weird because in his very first Ringed City review video he literally says it himself that fighting Argo or not doesn't matter. Like, istg the dude got so depressed over the blacklash over his SOTE critique that he got himself a mental reset that ended up resetting his memory too. He even sounds extremely different in his recent videos. Makes me sad ngl.
@ …or he just forgot. It happens.
@@grfrjiglstan he literally speedran this game hundreds of times. Including many boss rushes. There is no way in hell that he can forget an actual boss mechanic, let alone one about whether you should or shouldn't fight an enemy. That's like forgetting that you dont have to kill the other deacons, only the red marked ones.
I was thinking of the possibility that maybe he wanted to kill Argo so the fight would start faster, but that doesn't happen either. Even if you kill him, he still finishes his entire monologue before the fight can even start.
@@grfrjiglstan maybe he didn't feel the need to clarify you dont need to fight him since everyone alreadys knows, and wanted to just comment on how fromsoft didn't care about adjusting the camera to Argo if you DO decide to fight him. That's the only possible explanation and i admit that i didn't think of that before.
@@nicecoat5004 His sote critique wasn't even that bad. Yh he made some bad points but overall, it really wasn't that bad. But souls fans being souls fans, also just used the bad points to misinterpret and disregard everything else that were actually good critiques.
Ah yes if you listen carefully you can hear the sound of Orphan beating Demod into the beach with his shrimp even now
You just have to hold a grotesquely deformed seashell to your ears to hear it.
I feel like ranking bosses whilst using a max level axe doesnt really work 😭🙏
Dude fr. Tbh I feel like if you can killed the boss in 5 hits and under 30 seconds, your opinion is immediately invalidated.
Even in light of Bayle the Dread, I still believe Midir is Fromsoftware's best dragon. The idea of going face-to-face with a dragon in a series where you typically nip at their ankles was an amazing decision, and while you can do that to an extent with Bayle, I find Bayle does overshoot with a lot of attacks where he ends up on top of you, and his bulky frame makes it easier to take hits on his backside before he can get you out from under him.
All hail Midir. His difficulty may be diminished when you know how to fight him, but he's still a master class of how to do a large sized boss.
My favourite boss in the series. Peak.
Always dodge backwards or towards the right for Bayle. He won't overshoot then. Should be pretty obvious that if he's moving towards you and you dodge forwards, obviously you'll end up under him. The same is true for Midir.
Midir is simply more consistent than Bayle which means he's better imo. Bayle has a better moveset but your options are limited by jank which is unfortunate.
Why would you nip at Bayle ankles under any circumstance. There is no position where it's more advantageous to hit his head instead if you're ever under him you can just reposition yourself.
About to finish my 1st playthrough and he IS difficult even knowing the gimmick. Best dragon fight in the series I agree
I love how this game is so great it still gets talked about. On my 1st playthrough about to fight Gael
Man is about to experience peak ds3
1:43 Deacons of the deep
2:26 High lord wolnir
3:20 Ancient Wyvern
4:03 Yhorm the giant
4:41 Old demon king
5:08 Curse rotten great wood
5:30 Vordt of the boreal valley
6:06 ludex gundyr
6:45 champion gravetender/wolf
7:20 abyss watchers
8:14 lothric twin princes
9:20 half light spear of the church
10:55 crystal sage
12:05 pontiff sulyvahn
12:45 champion gundyr
13:16 Aldrich devoured of gods
14:20 dragon slayer armour
15:17 nameless king
16:30 ocerios the consumed king
16:58 dancer of the boreal valley
17:53 soul of cinder
18:40 demon princes
19:30 slave knight gael
20:55 sister friede
22:38 darkeater midir
Hey Dmod here’s a tip, on the Nameless King when he does the charged lightning attack that “homes in on you” like you described at 15:46, you can “dodge” it by simply unlocking on from him, and turning your camera around so your character and camera are facing AWAY from him and just stand still, the lightning will never hit you. Trust me, try it.
I've been doing this for years now and in the context of the fight it's hillarious.
'Look at my big lightning attack!!!'
'No'
'ok'
I believe that shit also works in PVP to the point you had to free aim the weapon art to land it on players who were aware of the trick... or not, it's been 5 years since I put down my sword.
But everything is already too easy for Dmod. He just breezes through everything all the time!
Fun video. also Crystal sage next to pontiff is crazy to me. ahahaha
Slave knight gale at 3 blows my mind
@@andrewsrjohnson96 He's easier than Friede since his moves are quite predictable and Midir has literally god levels of HP. A fight that long just means more opportunities to make a mistake that gets you killed.
@@kevingriffith677big HP means nothing. Every single one of his attacks are heavily telegraphed and he just leaves his head right open. He’s way easier than Gael and Friede
Comically, I found Nameless King to be significantly less difficult than Champion Gundyr during my first playthrough. Even WITH having to cleave through King of Storms every runback, I spent longer on Gundyr than I did on Gwyn's disowned progeny.
It was the hockey checks and rear-kicks. They did not play nicely with my UGS speed deficit.
Personally, I think Fume was harder. But that might be more to do with DS2's slightly more jank controls.
Ur taking me back to the good old days. Luv ya
twin princes have been my favourite souls boss since i first faced them
Same here. The ost is amazing. Best in the series except maybe Gael.
Great boss. I used to enjoy helping people fight them in coop. So many good bosses in this game. My favourite Souls
Same! Dragonslayer armor is the only other boss from this game to crack the top 5 list all time across the series.
For my money Friede takes my spot as the hardest boss in the three Souls games. If you don't have a weapon that staggers her on hit, you are in a world of pain. And taking into account that she can recover in an instant and jump out of your range.
I fought the 3 big dlc bosses for the first time a couple of months ago, and I was able to beat gael and midir on my 1st and 3rd try. Friede took me maybe 10 to 15 tries. She was a bitch
I would personally consider her the hardest boss as well given three phases, her invisibility and the second phase gank.
I agree she whooped my ass the hardest
DLC Radahn is probably the hardest I've faced followed by Sister Friede. Although, those two might soon be over taken by Isshin from Sekiro here soon from the from software games.
The community ranking only included the base game bosses so I'm using the 7 year old initial DLC ranking for this one. Yes, it was seven years since Ringed City. Yes, I feel old.
25- Deacons of the Deep. Down by 2. Original 25: Wolnir
24- Wolnir. Up by 1. Original 24: Iudex Gundyr
23- Ancient Wyvern. Down by 4. Original 23: Deacons of the Deep
22- Yhorm. No Change
21- Old Demon King. Down by 6. Original 21: Curse Rotted Greatwood
20- Curse Rotted Greatwood. Up by 1. Original 20: Vordt
19- Vordt. Up by 1. Original 19: Ancient Wyvern
18- Iudex Gungnir. Up by 6. Original 18: Crystal Sage
17- Grave Watchers. Down by 1. Original 17: Abyss Watchers
16- Abyss Watchers. Up by 1. Original 16: Grave Watchers
15- Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10. Original 15: Old Demon King
14- Halflight. No Change.
13- Crystal Sage. Up by 5. Original 13: Dragonslayer Armour
12- Pontiff Sulyvahn. No Change.
11- Champion Gundyr. Down by 2. Original 11: Aldrich
10- Aldrich. Up by 1. Original 10: Oceiros
9- Dragonslayer Armour. Up by 4. Original 9: Champion Gundyr
8- Nameless King. Down by 2. Original 8: Soul of Cinder
7- Oceiros. Up by 3. Original 7: Demon Princes
6- Dancer. Down by 3. Original 6: Nameless King
5- Soul of Cinder. Up by 3. Original 5: Lothric and Lorian
4- Demon Princes. Up by 2. Original 4: Sister Friede
3- Gael. Down by 1. Original 3: Dancer
2- Freide. Up by 2. Original 2: Gael
1- Midir. No Change.
Biggest Gain: Iudex Gundyr. Up by 6.
Biggest Loss: Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10.
No way bros still posting these 😂I’ve always loved them!! Just beat the dancer as my 3rd boss in my first new game plus
Dragonslayer Greataxe is a great str/fth weapon. 40/40 can output nuclear damage
Dropping this right near the end of the workday on a Friday is a champ maneuver, well played Ashen One
Ds3 is the best game in the dark souls trilogy
It has the highest quality of bosses,spectacular level design and immaculately balanced difficulty,the bosses might not have been the hardest in the series,but I had more fun fighting the princes and nameless than even the best bosses in ds2 because ds2 is simply too slow,but ds3 has bloodborne's faster combat blended seamlessly into its action economy,making it just fast enough to keep my attention and just enough of a challenge to give me a sense of achievement when I overcome a boss...
I’m gonna disagree with you on the part about level design buddy. Admittedly the drab color palette may play some part in it but these levels are a total drag to get through. They’re just…not fun. I think, with the exception of Farron Keep and MAYBE the Painted World of Ariandel, they’re too linear. This may be a bit of a hot take but I honestly prefer Blighttown from DS1 to most of these levels. My biggest issue with that area is just how much distance there is between the Depths Bonfire and the first Blighttown Bonfire. Once you get past that, the area’s not so bad. The toxic dart guys are annoying but the rest of the area is interestingly designed and both the lighting and color palette make it look very unique. DS3’s areas are just boring.
@@KingCasual1986
Saying you prefer blight town over any levels in ds3 is a wild statement,regardless I kinda see why people wouldn't like it since alot of the areas just kinda feel like really long run-ups to the bosses,which are immaculate but it's like having a dinner consisting of only main courses,no soup,no appetizer,just full main dishes...
I recently replayed every DS game and tbh the only thing that made DS3 better than DS2 for me is the DLC. Irithyl Dungeon and Farron Keep really bring my rating of DS3 down I'd rather deal with the Black Gulch in DS2 any day... DS2 has much more charm for me.
DS1 has best world design, DS2 has the best looking environments and DS3 has the best combat
Nostalgic to revisit these boss rankings
Placing Midir on #1 just tells me you've still not understood the fight imo.
He's way more straight forward than any of the other top picks. Both on my first playthrough and now years later as a veteran, Midir is an incredible and great fun fight, but in no way does he top Friede or even Gael in difficulty.
different people find different bosses hard, I definitely struggled more and needed more attempts at midir than I did Gael, and about the same as Frieda
Agree just needs to dodge backwards and it fixes wverything. One of the easiest in ds3.
@@lordcraigdragneel136 You don't even need to dodge you can legit just walk backwards and he cannot hit you with most moves
This guy ranked these bosses off of his broken build so that’s why his rankings make no sense. It’s fine to use powerful builds but if you are making a boss ranking video, I feel like you should actually experience the full moveset of each boss instead of powering through it as quickly as possible. It is very telling that he ranked Midir as hardest because it’s one of the fights that takes longer so he had to actually use his brain lmao
Really feel a ranking is skewed if you are playing NG+ with ranked up weapons. NG runs are so different due to experience and gear.
I do understand it’s impossible to go back to that first ever experience however
This ranking was kinda dumb tbh. Bro literally killed Pontiff in like 5 hits… how would he know how difficult a boss is if the boss never even gets to attack him?? Lol
@@harry6270 as someone who has spent 5+ minutes parrying pontiff to death with their fists
he isnt hard
@@Celatra so you argument is that he is an easy boss because 1 specific style of play works really well on him? Then every boss in Dark Souls is easy. Not saying Pontiff is like extremely hard but he is definitely difficult when not parrying.
@@harry6270 every boss in dark souls except maybe friede is essy
@@Celatra lmao okay buddy sure. Keep that ego nice and large
So, correct me if I’m wrong, he’s basing this list off of a run where he used a weapon that’s overleveled for half of the bosses he fought instead of their actual movesets and difficulty
It's almost like he used his knowledge of the game to get as powerful as possible. Gasp, how dare he. Everyone knows the only valid way to rank souls bosses is through playing the game with a +1 dingleberry
@ that’s not what I’m saying tho I’m saying he’s not basing the list off of what the boss actually is and just an overpowered run he did. Don’t get me wrong I’m fine with people playing the game who they want get as overpowered as you like but it just doesn’t seem that that’s the way you should base your boss ranking off of which is off of the boss
@@GrotesqueCavemanyou sound dumb. Edit or delete your comment kid.
"this boss was too easy with my totally overpowered character and 2 thousand hours of gameplay time!"
@@jarlwhiterun7478 lol
I love having these videos back, you’re a legend ❤️❤️
It's crazy that you re-make this list now, as I've just completed my first play through of DS3! Super interesting to hear a veteran's take on all the bosses. I've seen your original boss ranking, so I wasn't going into any of the boss fights completely blind. And as you say, after the unrelenting ferocity and speed of Elden Ring bosses, this game's roster felt quite easy, but still very enjoyable. Here's how many times I died to each boss!
First try:Deacons(lol), Yorm, Greatwood, Vort, Gunder1, Crystal Sage, Pontif, Aldritch, Dragon Slayer Armor, Consumed King, and to my surprise, Soul of Cinder.
1 death: Ancient Wyvern (he moved his head just as I jumped down to kill him!), Old Demon King, Gunder2, Twin princes, and Dancer
5 deaths: Abyss Watchers. Not quite sure why they had my number for a bit. I was playing spear and shield until I met these guys, the shredded my stamina. Then I switched to that big exile curve sword found on the Faron NPC, and that was way better.
10ish/lost count: Not sure how many times I died, I was just having so much fun with the boss, I didn't really care! It wasn't too many, took me less than a half hour. It was the first boss that challenged me, and you're right felt very elden ring-esc. The camera sucked ass though during the first phase.
I'm now taking on the DLC, looking forward to gael and Freide!
Its wonderful seeing this series after years. It feels refreshing and fun as you journey thru the series.
Did a DS3 run after putting in literal thousands of hours into Elden Ring the past two years, and jeez is this game a breeze now. Even the old nightmares like Nameless King were a snooze because of how limited his moveset actually is. The only boss I died to was Midir because I got cocky and didn't have enough heals. Compared to Bayle though he was very manageable. And Midir used to be that unbeatable boss for me too. Not anymore.
Elden ring is by far the hardest fromsoft game imo.
After I played Elden Ring I breezed through all the other games without a lot of resistance.
Ds3 was my first souls game back in 2017 and that felt really hard, but compared to what Elden Ring has to offer it cant compete
Reminds me of your DS3 speedrun videos. Great vid DeMod!
Calling the pinnacle of the core series an “awkward middle child” is ridiculous
Dark souls 1 is better. It's slow and simple, the way I like it. A game where I can use my basic Elite Knight Build with a sword and board, and not suffer the whole time.
@ Dark Souls 3 is actually Infamous for letting people just spam R1 through the whole game with starting weapons. Wtf are you on about
@@James-kv3ll snapped shields in half. That's what im on about. it ain't sword and board without a board.
@@James-kv3ll i dunno. 3 is fun and all, but after I get accustomed to it, it always feels easy. 1 and 2 give me a challenge no matter how much I prepare and grow. 3 also just has the most bland setting so....
@@josephbulkin9222Man idk wtf you're on about. My first 3 playthroughs of dark souls 3 was sword and board. Shields make ds3 extremely easy
This is my favorite souls game ever and I stand by that because it's my first souls game and it's so precious to have an impact on my life.
Love the ranking and recently i've been playing ds3 again and this brings back memories of when i first started playing ds from struggling on dancer only to realize vort was the boss need to be killed all the way to slave knight gale bullying till io learnt his attack patterns
This popping up in my recommendations just made it feel like i went back in time
Hot damn, that hit at 20:36 was crazy pro. I would of never even thought to try that. Well played!
To this day my top three are Midir, Gael, and Friede in said order. After beating elden ring and its DLC I should revisit the trio. Great video, cheers 🍻
Great to see this series come back!
DS3 Haters when they age naturally as time inexorably passes by (it's too linear)
I love how you complain about Argo, without considering you can just wait and he just leaves.
Cus he speedran the games sooo much he got sick of his unskippable dialogue
You're either good at transitioning audio or DS3 simply has a consistent banger, I appreciate the theme song transitions a lot here.
The wording in the friede part is devious
Heyyy Dmod long time viewer here, I don't comment much however I felt the need for this one as i have a very interesting perspective on the crystal sage. I have some very slight color blindness, to the point that the "purple" magic as you call it looks like a very VERY VERY!!! slightly darker blue, so for me at least the crystal sage in phase 2 is an absolute nightmare and as such I have to go and plow through watchers and Wolnir before attempting sage otherwise I'm just going to get angry at something completely out of my own control, and while I'm sure there's color blindness settings I can use it's such a small amount of color blindness that I don't want to change the entire game just for 1 boss. So for that reason alone I actually agree with the ranking of him in this list. I too abuse the homing soul mass attack as if you walk around him to his right his final bullet can never fire making him never able to teleport making phase 1 easily able to rush down the entire health bar. The few times I have messed up and gotten to phase 2 either for a improperly timed parry or maybe just getting too greedy and letting his final bullet shoot phase 2 absolute demolishes me due to the color blindness. Thankfully I've learned that the purple sage actually spawns in a fraction of a second sooner and can only be against a wall with those things in mind I'm able to handle phase 2 but its a slog and an absolute nightmare especially with the lack of plentiful Estus at this point in the game.
Imagine a new player with my color blindness stumbling into this fight with a +1 straight sword and then imagine their reaction to hitting 3 sages in a row without doing damage to the health bar, instantly that person will never want to play another game again because the "gimmick" makes the fight too difficult not even understanding why it is that its so much more difficult for them than any guide they see on TH-cam or the wiki pages. Now while I don't believe there's many issues with ds3 as a whole I can definitely understand why people would say sage is harder than people think he is
Didn't expect all the trading(or face tanking) against Midir despite the knowledge. When I returned to DS3 recently after not touching it for a very long time, I still remembered to walk backwards to neuter the threat of his melee attacks, and then walk in for a whiff punish, which works for weapons of any speed, even charged R2s of a UGS.
You know Demod's been on a journey when he finally drops the Twin Prince's in his difficulty rankings
Nameless will always have a special place in my heart as he was the first
souls boss I spent hours and days learning, truly learning every of his moves and actions. (DS3 was my first Souls).
I'm more likely to die to Vordt than to him ^^
If we're talking ng7, I'd say gael takes the cake. Even on a fully leveled character, that damn cape makes me glad to have popped tears of denial on. The damage is unforgiving but fair, the move set is relentless, making it feel like you're in the matrix once you've learned how to dodge correctly. Absolute cinema
I need to go back soon, man this one was good ❤
Demodcracy my dude what happened to the enthusiasm 😂
I mean, he's basically been forced to make these in order to claw back some viewership. I don't blame him for not being as enthusiastic making the same video a dozen times over
i like to think i have a good bit if experience in the high level of difficulty in ds3 bc ive done an sl1 run and im on ng+26 which means ive done 19 runs at max difficulty and my list would be way different than this but dmod definitely has even more experience than i do so what do i know
i just feel like the logic is kinda weird like old demon king got a low ranking because you can outlevel him and beat his ass and crystal sage got a high ranking because it can be hard if youre underprepared which is inconsistent ranking logic and yea old demon king is not hard but id definitely say he is more challenging than crystal sage with a good, balanced build, especially for new players my buddies died way more to odk when i made them play. just an example like one was low because its easy if you outlevel it and the other was high because its hard if you underlevel it like yea man
This ranking was kinda stupid tbh. He didn’t even experience a lot of the bosses full movesets in the fights. Shouldn’t you actually fight a boss if you are gonna rank the difficulty instead of trying to use over leveled equipment? Idk it’s just dumb. He killed Pontiff in only 5 hits and I’m supposed to care about his opinion on the difficulty? Not to hate but it’s just weird.
@ i agree that the ranking is dumb but this guy has been making videos about ds3 since it came out, he has definitely fought the bosses at least a couple dozen times. so have i tho and i heavily disagree with his rankings. but yea even tho the footage doesnt really show in the video i am sure this guy is very familiar with their movesets
Video starts at 1:40
Ok I normally wouldn't ever leave an even vaguely negative comment but this video just confuses me so much. it feels like half the time it is going off of how powerful you can be before the fight, with a early game maxed out weapon (which doesn't really make sense to me to judge these bosses that way), but it also is inconsistent about this which makes the rating seem a little unfair? this also doesn't make any sense to do for ds3 due to how linear it is, 99% of players won't fight dancer right away or even before fighting both Yhorm and Aldrich so why is this kind of playthrough used as the main example? like i understand playing through the game this way but why use it if you are ranking the bosses on how hard they are and better yet why be inconsistent about it. (this isn't even talking in general around some of the uhh questionable choices)
Halflight above princes is a certifiably insane take
Ngl nameless King took me hundreds of attempts, easily the hardest any boss has ever been for me in any video game
That's crazy. But I fought him not too long ago for the first time.
Boy chewed me up also. Not hundreds but probably 40+
He’s definitely the hardest boss in DS3 for me as well. I do think there are quite a few bosses in other Soulsborne games who are harder than him tho (such as Laurence, Demon of Hatred, Consort Radahn, and Malenia)
DS3 is probably the weirdest of the Souls games to revisit. Knowing about skips like the tree jump and the two Cathedral shortcuts, almost all the friction the game has to offer is pared down to a minimum. Everyone just blitzes Vordt, jumps off the cliff for Yoel’s free levels, etc. On the bright side, No Storm Yhorm is a great time, and essentially reclaims a gimmick boss into a genuine fight.
You realize there are strategies like this in every DS game? Every single game has shortcuts and tricks to get things faster/easier. That's the purpose of a speedrun. Also, nobody is forcing you to use the Tree Jump or any other shortcut, that's up to how you play the game.
One of my proudest soulsborne moments is still beating Midir on my first try on my first playthrough with a dark exile curved greatsword not even considering that it would do less damage. It must've been a 15 minute fight, I ran out of sunny d around the halfway mark and had about 200 health left for the last third. Only taking the safest possible openings until I beat him
You know what’s crazy? Deacons of the Deep and Curse Rotted Greatwood are still awesome boss fights, so it really puts in perspective how amazing the bosses in this game are. DS3 is forever the Boss GOAT.
Cruse Rotted Greatwood is a definitely a horrible boss. Deacons is not bad from a lore prospective. Bur gameplay wise it doesn’t even really feel like a boss fight since it’s basically just a bunch of fodder enemies with red eyes
Hell yea! DS3 and its bosses have a special place in my heart
I didn't even realize you could reposte the old demon king lol
I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but Iudex Gundyr's jump slam attack can be parried in the first phase. I was a little bewildered when I saw it, but adding another attack that can be parried really speeds up the fight, I think.
friedes third phase alone makes midir go 2nd (my opinion)
agree midir boring just runnnn hit runnn hit boring fight
While Abyss Watchers are my favorite boss, seeing them so low doesnt really surprise me. Thats part of why i like them. Theyre the first lord of cinder you fight and for a new player, they set a tone without feeling overwhelming. Plus with the environmental story telling all through farron keep leading up to them hinting at the assist you get, the whole fight feels like a test of what youve learned in the first 1/4 as ipposed to an obstacle. It's a well designed, fair, early game test.
What I find interesting is how my tier list is vastly different from yours purely because my runs are always like a glass cannon
So some bosses like Soul of Cinder are higher than ones liek Friede. Especially for a no hit run. I've been attempting that for a while and my goodness, certain bosses are ridiculous
Gael and Midir 100% gave me the most trouble my first time, and STILL to this day, give me the most trouble outta all the DS3 bosses
Ds3 was my first souls game all those years ago and I’ve since fallen in love with the genre and I remember dragon slayer armor was easily the hardest boss for me back then I was stuck on him for so long I don’t know why easily one of my favorite bosses looking back at it now
The Watchers were difficult for my first few playthroughs, because I wasn't used to the quick moveset and didn't know how to min-max weapons early. But later, they were the easiest Lord of Cinder for me.
DS3 was my first souls game when I played it in 2017 and the watchers were my first and only ever real roadblock in a game. Feels weird how it took me multiple days of giving up and coming back to beat them and now they feel like a walk in the park. Never experienced anything like that again in a souls game or any game for that matter
Hot take: I think Demon Princes are actually harder than the Friede and Father gank in the 2nd phase. For one thing, Father is not as big as the Demon Princes to the point where it gets hard to read his moves. Just don't get too greedy and watch for the occasional ice floor attack from Friede and use the healing window to wallop on the Father more. For Demon Princes, you will likely spend half the time being under one of them, which makes you susceptible to counterattack from the other one. Or heck, they will just both go so aggro on you that you won't have room to breathe, let alone attack!
And just like 3rd phase of Friede, you aren't out of the woods in that 2nd phase of Demon Prince! You still gotta dodge everything from big sweeps, slams, charges, and projectiles. And with a pretty girthy health pool, Demon Prince is an endurance fight akin to Midir and Nameless King. Good luck finding a consistent way back through that 1st phase when you make costly mistakes that end your run. 😟
In my first play trough, the hardest for me was lothric and lorian. I died so many times there, that this spot there marks my grave, but they may rest there too
I just started playing this game again after like 3 years. I just finished ringed city for the first time. I beat the twin princes my first time after only 1 day of playing on my old character. After several days I noticed I hadn't beaten the NK on that character yet. I've tried 5 times now.... Oh I also beat Gael my 2nd time, but still can't beat NK. I got Midir down to 25% health my 2nd try then he beat me the next 4 times. Boss difficulty and how it affects everyone differently is crazy. Several years ago I gave up on Freide. I probably tried it over 15 times. Then day one of getting back into it I beat her.
Do you think it be too much to do a video of the top 10 hardest bosses from Dark souls 1-3 and Elden ring? To see which game has the true hardest bosses?
For anyone who is somehow having a hard time with the Crystal Sage, just bring some throwing knives, the clones have 1 hp, so a single throwing knife per clone is all you need to make it a 1v1.
We still getting a Black Myth: Wukong ranking at some point??
Dark Souls 3 for me the best soulsborne game great to see this series is back 🎉
Stickerbrush Symphony at the end? Have a like, my good and cultured fellow 👍
So I’m currently halfway through the video (crystal sage) and I have 2 things to note.
1. The spear of the church fight NEVER goes as easy against a real player regardless of how many resources the host has as long as the boss isn’t stupid. I have videos of me absolutely decimating ganks as the boss and having so many heals stacked.
2. To make the second phase of crystal sage easier just carry throwing knives. The clones die from literally 1 damage so you’re not wasting time. Git gud newb
In the base game, I've died much more to Nameless than I have Soul. Soul just felt like a Hunter fight from Bloodborne to me and I had gotten so used to those that Nameless was the first major challenge when I started DS3, followed by Aldrich when I tried to play a mage
I agree with you on Midir. Seeing this list really brings back memories.
As much as I would like to revisit Bloodborne, it becomes more and more difficult every year as it feels more and more outdated.
If only Sony would give us a remaster.
Ahh there’s something nostalgic about this
Question, when is a jedi survivor video coming out? When I beat fallen order your videos about it's bosses popped up and I just beat jedi survivor and was anxious to hear your takes.
Always cool to get a different perspective as someone who has played these games a lot and over a long period of time (so your skill and play style evolved). I think for me Nameless King will remain king of hard for DS3. He always takes me the longest to kill. I played Elden Ring as my 1st Souls game but I guess I never learn delays properly lol. But DS3 stood out to me playing these games, I just love the bosses and think that as a whole DS3 has the best boss line up. From the dancer on is just banger after banger. (tho I have not played Sekiro or Bloodbourne).
This is what we want, this is what we NEED!
How did Soul of Cinder climb so high? Maybe I'll have a different perspective if I were to go back to it now after playing Elden Ring, but for me, his fight was never hard.
Yeah like SOC is my favorite fight in DS3, but he’s really not that tough. I have way more issue with the twin princes
Fight him at level 1...🙄
Soul of Cinder is easily the hardest boss in the base game. It's not even close tbh. Actually even with the DLC only Friede beats him.
Phase 1 has easily the most complex moveset out of DS3 bosses. On a normal run, he just doesn't have enough HP or do enough damage to be a threat. He's a lot worse on challenge runs like sl1 where you're forced to be consistent and can't hit trade
I feel SoC gets a substantial buff in damage in NG+ cycles.
3:01 I’ve played this game twice and only now am I figuring out about this.
SL1 ranking of bosses would be cool.
Actually you can evade the lightning strike from the Namless King. If you don't look at him while he is charging up, the lightning doesn't hit you.
Its crazy how bosses in this game were great for its time, bur now compared to ER, every boss feels like 0.5 version of its ER counterpart. Just shows how much FromSoft improved in combat balance and boss design.
Yeah barely... ER's bosses are for sure more complex but only Godfrey is on the same level as best ds3 bosses
@villek3722 What? There are almost a dozen of ER bosses that are better designed than any fight in ds3. Godfrey is one of them, yes.
@@Nrzpokrter I strongly disagree. Friede, Gael, Nameless and Twin princess are better than pretty much every base game ER boss. They are fun fights but often over complicated and rely on delayed attacks so much
@villek3722 unlike Nameless king or twin pronces who dont rely on nameless attacks... right? But ok, if you prefer simplistic bosses and want to only spam roll and light attack for the win, I get that you prefer ds3. I like that Fromsoftware evolved from that tho.
@@Nrzpokrter it exactly same in elden ring tho😂 you just have to spam roll longer since those combos are so long. Or then they have ridiculous attacks like water fowl and moghs undodgeable aoe🤷♂️
14:10 not going to lie, I was fully expecting a VPN ad right there
Do a Nine Sols list! Really good boss roster.
Midir is one of if not my favorite dragon design, but I don't know if I agree that its the hardest DS3 boss. All of its attacks have a pretty easy window to attack his head, I dont see how that makes him hard
Reminded me of Godzilla
Goddamn, these thumbnails have been straight fire demod
I think it’s his editor
One thing people don't really pay attention to is fire can wipe your frostbite status effect hence letting friede frostbite you again
Never seen such thing in any other boss ever
No boss has ever taken me longer than nameless king did in 2016. Melania/consort Rhadan on paper are so much harder but when I played ds3 for the first time I was stuck on nameless for so much longer than the bosses in elden ring
I've loved the series since the beginning, but I think it would make for a much better video if you haven't upgraded your health above 15
As someone stuck on the two princes I am horrified that they didn’t even make the top ten lol
Are you telling me I’ve been playing Dark Souls 3 for seven years and I still never knew Wolnir actually uses his sword??? 😭
Never seen someone do remakes of their own top tens, but here we are
Never seen someone care enough to complain about a remake of a top ten video, but here we are.
@andyb6400 Aww, you really thought you cooked with that one huh?
anything for the youtube slop machine
@sh00ner calm down its just a youtube video, you're gonna be ok
I’ve been replaying dark souls 3 (and going past where I left off in the ringed city). I’m fighting the bosses on my own and I’ve generally been enjoying it a lot more than my first time playing the game with my claymore. For some reason, my claymore never seemed like it did good damage while my weapons and spells do pretty good damage in this run. I beat Friede a few days ago and it was definitely the hardest fight so far, but by the time I beat her, I ended up enjoying the fight.
Midir felt so much easier for me imo than sister friede... that dragons attacks felt so natural for me, i didnt struggle much everytime i fought it. Friede on the other hand drove me fucking nuts.
Why not do a list like this but on SL1? That's a whole different beast!
You really ought to do this kind of analysis on the bosses in MGR: Revengeance. Some of those bosses are works of art. Was bummed you didn't click with that game.
That was similar to DS3 actually. He loved the bosses ALOT, he just didn't like the rest of the game
@@soulsmasterxw7373 If you only give them one run on Normal, you miss so much genius about their design. So many moves and combo variations. You have a counter to everything, but it is a lot. So fun to master.