Don't care what anyone else says, seeing this series return under the editorial of a veteran souls player vs your initial videos is a fun perspective to see as well as some nice nostalgia.
Easy by Elden Ring standards but, even if it’s unpopular, I think this game is the series at its best when it comes to balancing difficulty, spectacle and intuitive gameplay. It will always be up there with Bloodborne for my favorite but in that specific department related to boss design, it takes the cake for me
Fr. Ds3 bosses overall r just way better quality but ER has some amazing bosses as well. Compared to ds3, ER's has more mid to bad bosses. But what pisses me off the most is that FS literally perfected gank fights in ds3, and then threw all of that away in ER for some bullshit difficulty. Even with summons, the ER gank fights aren't fun.
I can't figure out why but DS3 is still much harder for me to master than Elden Ring. I went from DS1 -> DS3 -> Elden Ring and ER is by far the easiest. I'm not saying this to try and sound cool. I haven't even played Shadow of the Erdtree yet, but it took me far longer to beat Lothric than it did Melania. Jumping is kinda OP in a souls game
@@colem631I'm the opposite. Very few DS3 enemies and bosses put out a challenge for me. ER has gotten easier over time, but I've also spent over 400 hours in that game so it makes sense. 🤷
Oceiros above nameless is kind of wild. Agree nameless isn't as hard as people initial thought but I've never really been troubled by oceiros. He's inconsistent in speedruns sure but in a standard playthrough you really shouldn't die if you take your time
I do agree that NK definitely takes much more time to properly learn... But after a while Oceiros is far worse and takes more time, cause he's far "dirtier" with hit boxes and moves. So from a "veteran" standpoint it makes sense to put NK as easier, cause once you learn his moves you won't really lose anymore, whereas with Oceiros you can easily get fooled
@@igornaimoli7321 This is why Dancer is also above NK imo. NK's biggest challenge was the weird timings on his attacks, but once you learn them he does the same exact stuff all the time. Oceiros and Dancer both have the potential to do completely random attacks in different situations. Two fights with either boss will never look the same.
People who pretend that hard games and bosses are easy, remind me of the World of Warcraft nerd on South Park. Covered in zits and obese beyond measure, going in with a totally overpowered character and hundreds or thousands of hours of play and saying it's too easy
Lothric above Crystal Sage is definitely something. I feel like just from an objective standpoint Crystal Sage is way way way easier than Twin Princes.
You should be aware that you don’t actually have to kill Argo in the Halflight fight. If you just wait for him to do his spiel, he’ll just stand there, do nothing, and eventually die as soon as Halflight gets summoned.
its very weird because in his very first Ringed City review video he literally says it himself that fighting Argo or not doesn't matter. Like, istg the dude got so depressed over the blacklash over his SOTE critique that he got himself a mental reset that ended up resetting his memory too. He even sounds extremely different in his recent videos. Makes me sad ngl.
@@grfrjiglstan he literally speedran this game hundreds of times. Including many boss rushes. There is no way in hell that he can forget an actual boss mechanic, let alone one about whether you should or shouldn't fight an enemy. That's like forgetting that you dont have to kill the other deacons, only the red marked ones. I was thinking of the possibility that maybe he wanted to kill Argo so the fight would start faster, but that doesn't happen either. Even if you kill him, he still finishes his entire monologue before the fight can even start.
@@grfrjiglstan maybe he didn't feel the need to clarify you dont need to fight him since everyone alreadys knows, and wanted to just comment on how fromsoft didn't care about adjusting the camera to Argo if you DO decide to fight him. That's the only possible explanation and i admit that i didn't think of that before.
@@nicecoat5004 His sote critique wasn't even that bad. Yh he made some bad points but overall, it really wasn't that bad. But souls fans being souls fans, also just used the bad points to misinterpret and disregard everything else that were actually good critiques.
Even in light of Bayle the Dread, I still believe Midir is Fromsoftware's best dragon. The idea of going face-to-face with a dragon in a series where you typically nip at their ankles was an amazing decision, and while you can do that to an extent with Bayle, I find Bayle does overshoot with a lot of attacks where he ends up on top of you, and his bulky frame makes it easier to take hits on his backside before he can get you out from under him. All hail Midir. His difficulty may be diminished when you know how to fight him, but he's still a master class of how to do a large sized boss.
Always dodge backwards or towards the right for Bayle. He won't overshoot then. Should be pretty obvious that if he's moving towards you and you dodge forwards, obviously you'll end up under him. The same is true for Midir.
Midir is simply more consistent than Bayle which means he's better imo. Bayle has a better moveset but your options are limited by jank which is unfortunate.
Why would you nip at Bayle ankles under any circumstance. There is no position where it's more advantageous to hit his head instead if you're ever under him you can just reposition yourself.
1:43 Deacons of the deep 2:26 High lord wolnir 3:20 Ancient Wyvern 4:03 Yhorm the giant 4:41 Old demon king 5:08 Curse rotten great wood 5:30 Vordt of the boreal valley 6:06 ludex gundyr 6:45 champion gravetender/wolf 7:20 abyss watchers 8:14 lothric twin princes 9:20 half light spear of the church 10:55 crystal sage 12:05 pontiff sulyvahn 12:45 champion gundyr 13:16 Aldrich devoured of gods 14:20 dragon slayer armour 15:17 nameless king 16:30 ocerios the consumed king 16:58 dancer of the boreal valley 17:53 soul of cinder 18:40 demon princes 19:30 slave knight gael 20:55 sister friede 22:38 darkeater midir
With all due respect. How the actual shitting dicks is Crystal Sage harder than Lothric and Lorian XD. And don’t get me started on Oceiros being harder than Nameless, this list is crazy…
This guy is so full of shit almost all his videos have bullshit like that 😂 gonna stop watching this just had to be sure he was full of shit before I stopped
Hey Dmod here’s a tip, on the Nameless King when he does the charged lightning attack that “homes in on you” like you described at 15:46, you can “dodge” it by simply unlocking on from him, and turning your camera around so your character and camera are facing AWAY from him and just stand still, the lightning will never hit you. Trust me, try it.
I believe that shit also works in PVP to the point you had to free aim the weapon art to land it on players who were aware of the trick... or not, it's been 5 years since I put down my sword.
Dark souls 1 is better. It's slow and simple, the way I like it. A game where I can use my basic Elite Knight Build with a sword and board, and not suffer the whole time.
Really feel a ranking is skewed if you are playing NG+ with ranked up weapons. NG runs are so different due to experience and gear. I do understand it’s impossible to go back to that first ever experience however
The community ranking only included the base game bosses so I'm using the 7 year old initial DLC ranking for this one. Yes, it was seven years since Ringed City. Yes, I feel old. 25- Deacons of the Deep. Down by 2. Original 25: Wolnir 24- Wolnir. Up by 1. Original 24: Iudex Gundyr 23- Ancient Wyvern. Down by 4. Original 23: Deacons of the Deep 22- Yhorm. No Change 21- Old Demon King. Down by 6. Original 21: Curse Rotted Greatwood 20- Curse Rotted Greatwood. Up by 1. Original 20: Vordt 19- Vordt. Up by 1. Original 19: Ancient Wyvern 18- Iudex Gungnir. Up by 6. Original 18: Crystal Sage 17- Grave Watchers. Down by 1. Original 17: Abyss Watchers 16- Abyss Watchers. Up by 1. Original 16: Grave Watchers 15- Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10. Original 15: Old Demon King 14- Halflight. No Change. 13- Crystal Sage. Up by 5. Original 13: Dragonslayer Armour 12- Pontiff Sulyvahn. No Change. 11- Champion Gundyr. Down by 2. Original 11: Aldrich 10- Aldrich. Up by 1. Original 10: Oceiros 9- Dragonslayer Armour. Up by 4. Original 9: Champion Gundyr 8- Nameless King. Down by 2. Original 8: Soul of Cinder 7- Oceiros. Up by 3. Original 7: Demon Princes 6- Dancer. Down by 3. Original 6: Nameless King 5- Soul of Cinder. Up by 3. Original 5: Lothric and Lorian 4- Demon Princes. Up by 2. Original 4: Sister Friede 3- Gael. Down by 1. Original 3: Dancer 2- Freide. Up by 2. Original 2: Gael 1- Midir. No Change. Biggest Gain: Iudex Gundyr. Up by 6. Biggest Loss: Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10.
So, correct me if I’m wrong, he’s basing this list off of a run where he used a weapon that’s overleveled for half of the bosses he fought instead of their actual movesets and difficulty
It's almost like he used his knowledge of the game to get as powerful as possible. Gasp, how dare he. Everyone knows the only valid way to rank souls bosses is through playing the game with a +1 dingleberry
@ that’s not what I’m saying tho I’m saying he’s not basing the list off of what the boss actually is and just an overpowered run he did. Don’t get me wrong I’m fine with people playing the game who they want get as overpowered as you like but it just doesn’t seem that that’s the way you should base your boss ranking off of which is off of the boss
For my money Friede takes my spot as the hardest boss in the three Souls games. If you don't have a weapon that staggers her on hit, you are in a world of pain. And taking into account that she can recover in an instant and jump out of your range.
I fought the 3 big dlc bosses for the first time a couple of months ago, and I was able to beat gael and midir on my 1st and 3rd try. Friede took me maybe 10 to 15 tries. She was a bitch
@@andrewsrjohnson96 He's easier than Friede since his moves are quite predictable and Midir has literally god levels of HP. A fight that long just means more opportunities to make a mistake that gets you killed.
@@kevingriffith677big HP means nothing. Every single one of his attacks are heavily telegraphed and he just leaves his head right open. He’s way easier than Gael and Friede
Ds3 is the best game in the dark souls trilogy It has the highest quality of bosses,spectacular level design and immaculately balanced difficulty,the bosses might not have been the hardest in the series,but I had more fun fighting the princes and nameless than even the best bosses in ds2 because ds2 is simply too slow,but ds3 has bloodborne's faster combat blended seamlessly into its action economy,making it just fast enough to keep my attention and just enough of a challenge to give me a sense of achievement when I overcome a boss...
I’m gonna disagree with you on the part about level design buddy. Admittedly the drab color palette may play some part in it but these levels are a total drag to get through. They’re just…not fun. I think, with the exception of Farron Keep and MAYBE the Painted World of Ariandel, they’re too linear. This may be a bit of a hot take but I honestly prefer Blighttown from DS1 to most of these levels. My biggest issue with that area is just how much distance there is between the Depths Bonfire and the first Blighttown Bonfire. Once you get past that, the area’s not so bad. The toxic dart guys are annoying but the rest of the area is interestingly designed and both the lighting and color palette make it look very unique. DS3’s areas are just boring.
@@KingCasual1986 Saying you prefer blight town over any levels in ds3 is a wild statement,regardless I kinda see why people wouldn't like it since alot of the areas just kinda feel like really long run-ups to the bosses,which are immaculate but it's like having a dinner consisting of only main courses,no soup,no appetizer,just full main dishes...
Did a DS3 run after putting in literal thousands of hours into Elden Ring the past two years, and jeez is this game a breeze now. Even the old nightmares like Nameless King were a snooze because of how limited his moveset actually is. The only boss I died to was Midir because I got cocky and didn't have enough heals. Compared to Bayle though he was very manageable. And Midir used to be that unbeatable boss for me too. Not anymore.
Elden ring is by far the hardest fromsoft game imo. After I played Elden Ring I breezed through all the other games without a lot of resistance. Ds3 was my first souls game back in 2017 and that felt really hard, but compared to what Elden Ring has to offer it cant compete
DS3 is probably the weirdest of the Souls games to revisit. Knowing about skips like the tree jump and the two Cathedral shortcuts, almost all the friction the game has to offer is pared down to a minimum. Everyone just blitzes Vordt, jumps off the cliff for Yoel’s free levels, etc. On the bright side, No Storm Yhorm is a great time, and essentially reclaims a gimmick boss into a genuine fight.
You realize there are strategies like this in every DS game? Every single game has shortcuts and tricks to get things faster/easier. That's the purpose of a speedrun. Also, nobody is forcing you to use the Tree Jump or any other shortcut, that's up to how you play the game.
It's crazy that you re-make this list now, as I've just completed my first play through of DS3! Super interesting to hear a veteran's take on all the bosses. I've seen your original boss ranking, so I wasn't going into any of the boss fights completely blind. And as you say, after the unrelenting ferocity and speed of Elden Ring bosses, this game's roster felt quite easy, but still very enjoyable. Here's how many times I died to each boss! First try:Deacons(lol), Yorm, Greatwood, Vort, Gunder1, Crystal Sage, Pontif, Aldritch, Dragon Slayer Armor, Consumed King, and to my surprise, Soul of Cinder. 1 death: Ancient Wyvern (he moved his head just as I jumped down to kill him!), Old Demon King, Gunder2, Twin princes, and Dancer 5 deaths: Abyss Watchers. Not quite sure why they had my number for a bit. I was playing spear and shield until I met these guys, the shredded my stamina. Then I switched to that big exile curve sword found on the Faron NPC, and that was way better. 10ish/lost count: Not sure how many times I died, I was just having so much fun with the boss, I didn't really care! It wasn't too many, took me less than a half hour. It was the first boss that challenged me, and you're right felt very elden ring-esc. The camera sucked ass though during the first phase. I'm now taking on the DLC, looking forward to gael and Freide!
Its crazy how bosses in this game were great for its time, bur now compared to ER, every boss feels like 0.5 version of its ER counterpart. Just shows how much FromSoft improved in combat balance and boss design.
@@Nrzpokrter I strongly disagree. Friede, Gael, Nameless and Twin princess are better than pretty much every base game ER boss. They are fun fights but often over complicated and rely on delayed attacks so much
@villek3722 unlike Nameless king or twin pronces who dont rely on nameless attacks... right? But ok, if you prefer simplistic bosses and want to only spam roll and light attack for the win, I get that you prefer ds3. I like that Fromsoftware evolved from that tho.
@@Nrzpokrter it exactly same in elden ring tho😂 you just have to spam roll longer since those combos are so long. Or then they have ridiculous attacks like water fowl and moghs undodgeable aoe🤷♂️
Placing Midir on #1 just tells me you've still not understood the fight imo. He's way more straight forward than any of the other top picks. Both on my first playthrough and now years later as a veteran, Midir is an incredible and great fun fight, but in no way does he top Friede or even Gael in difficulty.
different people find different bosses hard, I definitely struggled more and needed more attempts at midir than I did Gael, and about the same as Frieda
You know what’s crazy? Deacons of the Deep and Curse Rotted Greatwood are still awesome boss fights, so it really puts in perspective how amazing the bosses in this game are. DS3 is forever the Boss GOAT.
Cruse Rotted Greatwood is a definitely a horrible boss. Deacons is not bad from a lore prospective. Bur gameplay wise it doesn’t even really feel like a boss fight since it’s basically just a bunch of fodder enemies with red eyes
To this day my top three are Midir, Gael, and Friede in said order. After beating elden ring and its DLC I should revisit the trio. Great video, cheers 🍻
If we're talking ng7, I'd say gael takes the cake. Even on a fully leveled character, that damn cape makes me glad to have popped tears of denial on. The damage is unforgiving but fair, the move set is relentless, making it feel like you're in the matrix once you've learned how to dodge correctly. Absolute cinema
How did Soul of Cinder climb so high? Maybe I'll have a different perspective if I were to go back to it now after playing Elden Ring, but for me, his fight was never hard.
Fight him at level 1...🙄 Soul of Cinder is easily the hardest boss in the base game. It's not even close tbh. Actually even with the DLC only Friede beats him.
Phase 1 has easily the most complex moveset out of DS3 bosses. On a normal run, he just doesn't have enough HP or do enough damage to be a threat. He's a lot worse on challenge runs like sl1 where you're forced to be consistent and can't hit trade
Nameless will always have a special place in my heart as he was the first souls boss I spent hours and days learning, truly learning every of his moves and actions. (DS3 was my first Souls). I'm more likely to die to Vordt than to him ^^
What I find interesting is how my tier list is vastly different from yours purely because my runs are always like a glass cannon So some bosses like Soul of Cinder are higher than ones liek Friede. Especially for a no hit run. I've been attempting that for a while and my goodness, certain bosses are ridiculous
i like to think i have a good bit if experience in the high level of difficulty in ds3 bc ive done an sl1 run and im on ng+26 which means ive done 19 runs at max difficulty and my list would be way different than this but dmod definitely has even more experience than i do so what do i know i just feel like the logic is kinda weird like old demon king got a low ranking because you can outlevel him and beat his ass and crystal sage got a high ranking because it can be hard if youre underprepared which is inconsistent ranking logic and yea old demon king is not hard but id definitely say he is more challenging than crystal sage with a good, balanced build, especially for new players my buddies died way more to odk when i made them play. just an example like one was low because its easy if you outlevel it and the other was high because its hard if you underlevel it like yea man
Hot take: I think Demon Princes are actually harder than the Friede and Father gank in the 2nd phase. For one thing, Father is not as big as the Demon Princes to the point where it gets hard to read his moves. Just don't get too greedy and watch for the occasional ice floor attack from Friede and use the healing window to wallop on the Father more. For Demon Princes, you will likely spend half the time being under one of them, which makes you susceptible to counterattack from the other one. Or heck, they will just both go so aggro on you that you won't have room to breathe, let alone attack! And just like 3rd phase of Friede, you aren't out of the woods in that 2nd phase of Demon Prince! You still gotta dodge everything from big sweeps, slams, charges, and projectiles. And with a pretty girthy health pool, Demon Prince is an endurance fight akin to Midir and Nameless King. Good luck finding a consistent way back through that 1st phase when you make costly mistakes that end your run. 😟
He’s definitely the hardest boss in DS3 for me as well. I do think there are quite a few bosses in other Soulsborne games who are harder than him tho (such as Laurence, Demon of Hatred, Consort Radahn, and Malenia)
Didn't expect all the trading(or face tanking) against Midir despite the knowledge. When I returned to DS3 recently after not touching it for a very long time, I still remembered to walk backwards to neuter the threat of his melee attacks, and then walk in for a whiff punish, which works for weapons of any speed, even charged R2s of a UGS.
The Watchers were difficult for my first few playthroughs, because I wasn't used to the quick moveset and didn't know how to min-max weapons early. But later, they were the easiest Lord of Cinder for me.
DS3 was my first souls game when I played it in 2017 and the watchers were my first and only ever real roadblock in a game. Feels weird how it took me multiple days of giving up and coming back to beat them and now they feel like a walk in the park. Never experienced anything like that again in a souls game or any game for that matter
Midir felt so much easier for me imo than sister friede... that dragons attacks felt so natural for me, i didnt struggle much everytime i fought it. Friede on the other hand drove me fucking nuts.
Midir is one of if not my favorite dragon design, but I don't know if I agree that its the hardest DS3 boss. All of its attacks have a pretty easy window to attack his head, I dont see how that makes him hard
I mean, he's basically been forced to make these in order to claw back some viewership. I don't blame him for not being as enthusiastic making the same video a dozen times over
Bro I gotta know where you get your thumbnail art from Also 24:39 is definitely a spicy take in the larger community, tho I understand it. I personally enjoy both DS2 and DS3 more than DS1, but I definitely see how middling the non-boss portions of the game are with DS3.
Midir being #1 is interesting in that it kinda shows how some players will never feel truly comfortable around certain bosses no matter how much of a veteran they are. Because I think nowadays Midir is considered a pretty tough boss but not the monster he was at DLC launch. But iirc Demod has always struggled with Midir from the beginning. So it’s nice to have that sort of perspective. For me, Sister Friede would be the only DS3 boss that consistently skillchecks me.
I agree with you on Midir. Seeing this list really brings back memories. As much as I would like to revisit Bloodborne, it becomes more and more difficult every year as it feels more and more outdated. If only Sony would give us a remaster.
While Abyss Watchers are my favorite boss, seeing them so low doesnt really surprise me. Thats part of why i like them. Theyre the first lord of cinder you fight and for a new player, they set a tone without feeling overwhelming. Plus with the environmental story telling all through farron keep leading up to them hinting at the assist you get, the whole fight feels like a test of what youve learned in the first 1/4 as ipposed to an obstacle. It's a well designed, fair, early game test.
In the base game, I've died much more to Nameless than I have Soul. Soul just felt like a Hunter fight from Bloodborne to me and I had gotten so used to those that Nameless was the first major challenge when I started DS3, followed by Aldrich when I tried to play a mage
I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but Iudex Gundyr's jump slam attack can be parried in the first phase. I was a little bewildered when I saw it, but adding another attack that can be parried really speeds up the fight, I think.
So I’m currently halfway through the video (crystal sage) and I have 2 things to note. 1. The spear of the church fight NEVER goes as easy against a real player regardless of how many resources the host has as long as the boss isn’t stupid. I have videos of me absolutely decimating ganks as the boss and having so many heals stacked. 2. To make the second phase of crystal sage easier just carry throwing knives. The clones die from literally 1 damage so you’re not wasting time. Git gud newb
I just started playing this game again after like 3 years. I just finished ringed city for the first time. I beat the twin princes my first time after only 1 day of playing on my old character. After several days I noticed I hadn't beaten the NK on that character yet. I've tried 5 times now.... Oh I also beat Gael my 2nd time, but still can't beat NK. I got Midir down to 25% health my 2nd try then he beat me the next 4 times. Boss difficulty and how it affects everyone differently is crazy. Several years ago I gave up on Freide. I probably tried it over 15 times. Then day one of getting back into it I beat her.
Question, when is a jedi survivor video coming out? When I beat fallen order your videos about it's bosses popped up and I just beat jedi survivor and was anxious to hear your takes.
No boss has ever taken me longer than nameless king did in 2016. Melania/consort Rhadan on paper are so much harder but when I played ds3 for the first time I was stuck on nameless for so much longer than the bosses in elden ring
Comically, I found Nameless King to be significantly less difficult than Champion Gundyr during my first playthrough. Even WITH having to cleave through King of Storms every runback, I spent longer on Gundyr than I did on Gwyn's disowned progeny. It was the hockey checks and rear-kicks. They did not play nicely with my UGS speed deficit. Personally, I think Fume was harder. But that might be more to do with DS2's slightly more jank controls.
Always cool to get a different perspective as someone who has played these games a lot and over a long period of time (so your skill and play style evolved). I think for me Nameless King will remain king of hard for DS3. He always takes me the longest to kill. I played Elden Ring as my 1st Souls game but I guess I never learn delays properly lol. But DS3 stood out to me playing these games, I just love the bosses and think that as a whole DS3 has the best boss line up. From the dancer on is just banger after banger. (tho I have not played Sekiro or Bloodbourne).
I dont know if you can compare the difficulty of killing the bosses with a +9 weapon... The earlier and mid bosses are not intended to be faced with a meta character and weapon. You should have compared them at their intended level
Disagree on Midir being #1. All his swipe combos and bites can be avoided by sprinting or spam rolling backwards. You can even find lots of Midir no roll videos where you see people just walk backwards and outspace almost all his moves. He'd still be in my top 5 for the massive HP pool though
One of my proudest soulsborne moments is still beating Midir on my first try on my first playthrough with a dark exile curved greatsword not even considering that it would do less damage. It must've been a 15 minute fight, I ran out of sunny d around the halfway mark and had about 200 health left for the last third. Only taking the safest possible openings until I beat him
I’ve been replaying dark souls 3 (and going past where I left off in the ringed city). I’m fighting the bosses on my own and I’ve generally been enjoying it a lot more than my first time playing the game with my claymore. For some reason, my claymore never seemed like it did good damage while my weapons and spells do pretty good damage in this run. I beat Friede a few days ago and it was definitely the hardest fight so far, but by the time I beat her, I ended up enjoying the fight.
I had a hard time with the game when I first played it, and I was using a some kind of straight sword or claymore. I later played the game through after playing ER through with a friend wielding dual Giant Crushers, I decided to just stick with heavy hammers, and steamrolled the game with Vordt's Great Hammer, most deaths against the bosses I had were against Midir, and that was 2, so I won on third time. Nameless King was 2nd try, almost everything else was 1st try and none of it was even close.
I don't know if this is a hot take, but I've never found the dragonslayer Armour to be remotely difficult. Sure, he got me a few times on my first playthrough, but I don't think I've died to him since. It's a very fair fight with plenty of opportunity to counter. Heck, I consistently have more trouble with the Abyss watchers
One thing people don't really pay attention to is fire can wipe your frostbite status effect hence letting friede frostbite you again Never seen such thing in any other boss ever
Damn, the end tho... I feel pretty much the same way after replaying the trilogy, now replaying Elden Ring (no PS so no Demon's or Bloodborne, and Sekiro is another beast entirely as much as I love it) Dark Souls 1 still has top tier atmosphere and makes you feel so small and powerless in a hostile world. It's wonderfully depressing, and while the bosses are now slow and sluggish after playing Elden Ring so much, they still hold up. Dark Souls 2 has many flaws, MANY, but it's kind of "the whole is more than the sum of its parts", somehow, despite the flaws, it has its charm and the overall experience is enjoyable and memorable, even if only a handful of bosses (Sir Alonne, Fume Knight, Ivory King, Blue Smelty, Sinh, Velstadt, Lost Sinner and Mirror Knight) are actually great and most of the areas are no better than mediocre, but yeah, it's remarkable how despite having not so great ingredients it manages to be a pretty good experience. Meanwhile Dark Souls 3 has great ingredients (the best gameplay and bosses of the trilogy) but in this case the whole is less than the sum of the parts. It's indeed painfully linear, and you might as well just ignore the areas because the bosses are why you're playing anyways. A shame, I think only Irithyll, Ringed City, Lothric Castle + Grand Archives, Cathedral of the Deep and to a lesser extent Ariandel could compete with the best areas of Dark Souls 1. Elden Ring is my favorite still, alongside Dark Souls 1.
You really ought to do this kind of analysis on the bosses in MGR: Revengeance. Some of those bosses are works of art. Was bummed you didn't click with that game.
@@soulsmasterxw7373 If you only give them one run on Normal, you miss so much genius about their design. So many moves and combo variations. You have a counter to everything, but it is a lot. So fun to master.
Currently sitting in the ads before the video. My guess for easiest is Crystal Sage, Iudex Gundyr, Wolnir, Old Demon King or Ancient Wyvern. (The list is a personal thing, don't bash me.) Wolnir bc.... Wolnir. Wyvern, bc it's literally a one-shot if you do the plunging attack, and ODK because well, most people fight him when they're mad over leveled for his fight. 😭 25: I was wrong. Deacons as #25 makes sense. 24: Wolnir at #24. I like it. 23: Ancient Wyvern! Guessed it. I heavy fw this tier list so far. 22: I should've guessed Yhorm. But, even with Storm Ruler, he's killed me once or twice when I got careless. 🙌 21: Even he said it. 😭 20: Tbh, Idk. I struggled with CRG. 19: I haven't died to Vordt since my first playthrough, so... But yeah, he's difficult for newer players. 18: Iudex...? Fair. 17: Haven't fought the Gravetender, so. 16: Abyss Watchers ran my shit on my first playthrough. 100% agree, they're difficult. 15: This one.. I don't agree with. Twin Princes was easily one of the hardest fights for me. But it's fair. 14: Get this goofy ahh NPC boss outta here. Fuck Halflight. 💀 13: How is Crystal Sage *here* ? I've never seen anyone struggle with her. 12: Pontiff is proper difficult. This placement makes sense. 11: Champ gave me a run for my money on my initial playthrough. I like this placement. 10: Aldrich is super easy if he doesn't spam the arrows. 9: I rarely have trouble with DSA anymore. But his combos did mess me up a few times. 8: I never really struggled with NK.. But his combos are quite shit to deal with when he delays them. 7: Oceiros is only here because he's bullshit. The Schizophrenic Dragon is cool though. 6: Of all the bosses I've faced, Dancer ranks among the hardest for me. She's so difficult to anticipate. 5: SoC.... A perfect end to a perfect trilogy of games. I respect this placement. O7 4: Haven't fought the Demon Princes, so. Can't argue really. 3: Haven't fought Gael. 2: Haven't fought Friede... 1: I haven't fougth Midir. I don't have the DLCs yet. Getting them real soon.
Do you think it be too much to do a video of the top 10 hardest bosses from Dark souls 1-3 and Elden ring? To see which game has the true hardest bosses?
Lothric and Lorian isn't hard to pull off until you reach NG+3 and have to deal with both princes at the same time, while they do enough damage to kill pretty much any build in 1 to 2 hits. This is one of those fights that is much more balanced for upwards of NG+
Don't care what anyone else says, seeing this series return under the editorial of a veteran souls player vs your initial videos is a fun perspective to see as well as some nice nostalgia.
Right? Don't get the hate over this series, like people somehow want him to re hash his old vids instead of doing something new
@@dangredux2003He could just add (revisited) or something to the title and that‘s it.
"editorial of a veteran souls player vs your initial videos" Wdym by this? I'm confused.
Easy by Elden Ring standards but, even if it’s unpopular, I think this game is the series at its best when it comes to balancing difficulty, spectacle and intuitive gameplay. It will always be up there with Bloodborne for my favorite but in that specific department related to boss design, it takes the cake for me
Fr. Ds3 bosses overall r just way better quality but ER has some amazing bosses as well. Compared to ds3, ER's has more mid to bad bosses. But what pisses me off the most is that FS literally perfected gank fights in ds3, and then threw all of that away in ER for some bullshit difficulty. Even with summons, the ER gank fights aren't fun.
Absolutely… I don’t think DS3 has a single bad boss… it’s amazing quality.
The decons are too easy but they are still cool as hell
@@bingobongo1615 The decons r manageable if u use something like the claymore, which takes out a lot of them together.
I can't figure out why but DS3 is still much harder for me to master than Elden Ring. I went from DS1 -> DS3 -> Elden Ring and ER is by far the easiest. I'm not saying this to try and sound cool. I haven't even played Shadow of the Erdtree yet, but it took me far longer to beat Lothric than it did Melania. Jumping is kinda OP in a souls game
@@colem631I'm the opposite. Very few DS3 enemies and bosses put out a challenge for me. ER has gotten easier over time, but I've also spent over 400 hours in that game so it makes sense. 🤷
Oceiros above nameless is kind of wild. Agree nameless isn't as hard as people initial thought but I've never really been troubled by oceiros. He's inconsistent in speedruns sure but in a standard playthrough you really shouldn't die if you take your time
He's in my top 3 favourite bosses. Iv never struggled with him that much, but iv never done a level 1 playthrough.
I do agree that NK definitely takes much more time to properly learn... But after a while Oceiros is far worse and takes more time, cause he's far "dirtier" with hit boxes and moves.
So from a "veteran" standpoint it makes sense to put NK as easier, cause once you learn his moves you won't really lose anymore, whereas with Oceiros you can easily get fooled
@@igornaimoli7321 This is why Dancer is also above NK imo. NK's biggest challenge was the weird timings on his attacks, but once you learn them he does the same exact stuff all the time. Oceiros and Dancer both have the potential to do completely random attacks in different situations. Two fights with either boss will never look the same.
"...take your time"
There's the problem, Demod has zero patience.
the hardest part of oceriros is getting his tail without accidentally killing him
Ah yes if you listen carefully you can hear the sound of Orphan beating Demod into the beach with his shrimp even now
You just have to hold a grotesquely deformed seashell to your ears to hear it.
Lothric's placement is WILD 😅
Fr one of the hardest for me
People who pretend that hard games and bosses are easy, remind me of the World of Warcraft nerd on South Park. Covered in zits and obese beyond measure, going in with a totally overpowered character and hundreds or thousands of hours of play and saying it's too easy
Lothric above Crystal Sage is definitely something. I feel like just from an objective standpoint Crystal Sage is way way way easier than Twin Princes.
If his list were at higher NG levels, it would be way different. Or SL1.
You should be aware that you don’t actually have to kill Argo in the Halflight fight. If you just wait for him to do his spiel, he’ll just stand there, do nothing, and eventually die as soon as Halflight gets summoned.
its very weird because in his very first Ringed City review video he literally says it himself that fighting Argo or not doesn't matter. Like, istg the dude got so depressed over the blacklash over his SOTE critique that he got himself a mental reset that ended up resetting his memory too. He even sounds extremely different in his recent videos. Makes me sad ngl.
@ …or he just forgot. It happens.
@@grfrjiglstan he literally speedran this game hundreds of times. Including many boss rushes. There is no way in hell that he can forget an actual boss mechanic, let alone one about whether you should or shouldn't fight an enemy. That's like forgetting that you dont have to kill the other deacons, only the red marked ones.
I was thinking of the possibility that maybe he wanted to kill Argo so the fight would start faster, but that doesn't happen either. Even if you kill him, he still finishes his entire monologue before the fight can even start.
@@grfrjiglstan maybe he didn't feel the need to clarify you dont need to fight him since everyone alreadys knows, and wanted to just comment on how fromsoft didn't care about adjusting the camera to Argo if you DO decide to fight him. That's the only possible explanation and i admit that i didn't think of that before.
@@nicecoat5004 His sote critique wasn't even that bad. Yh he made some bad points but overall, it really wasn't that bad. But souls fans being souls fans, also just used the bad points to misinterpret and disregard everything else that were actually good critiques.
Even in light of Bayle the Dread, I still believe Midir is Fromsoftware's best dragon. The idea of going face-to-face with a dragon in a series where you typically nip at their ankles was an amazing decision, and while you can do that to an extent with Bayle, I find Bayle does overshoot with a lot of attacks where he ends up on top of you, and his bulky frame makes it easier to take hits on his backside before he can get you out from under him.
All hail Midir. His difficulty may be diminished when you know how to fight him, but he's still a master class of how to do a large sized boss.
My favourite boss in the series. Peak.
Always dodge backwards or towards the right for Bayle. He won't overshoot then. Should be pretty obvious that if he's moving towards you and you dodge forwards, obviously you'll end up under him. The same is true for Midir.
Midir is simply more consistent than Bayle which means he's better imo. Bayle has a better moveset but your options are limited by jank which is unfortunate.
Why would you nip at Bayle ankles under any circumstance. There is no position where it's more advantageous to hit his head instead if you're ever under him you can just reposition yourself.
About to finish my 1st playthrough and he IS difficult even knowing the gimmick. Best dragon fight in the series I agree
1:43 Deacons of the deep
2:26 High lord wolnir
3:20 Ancient Wyvern
4:03 Yhorm the giant
4:41 Old demon king
5:08 Curse rotten great wood
5:30 Vordt of the boreal valley
6:06 ludex gundyr
6:45 champion gravetender/wolf
7:20 abyss watchers
8:14 lothric twin princes
9:20 half light spear of the church
10:55 crystal sage
12:05 pontiff sulyvahn
12:45 champion gundyr
13:16 Aldrich devoured of gods
14:20 dragon slayer armour
15:17 nameless king
16:30 ocerios the consumed king
16:58 dancer of the boreal valley
17:53 soul of cinder
18:40 demon princes
19:30 slave knight gael
20:55 sister friede
22:38 darkeater midir
With all due respect. How the actual shitting dicks is Crystal Sage harder than Lothric and Lorian XD. And don’t get me started on Oceiros being harder than Nameless, this list is crazy…
This guy is so full of shit almost all his videos have bullshit like that 😂 gonna stop watching this just had to be sure he was full of shit before I stopped
I love how this game is so great it still gets talked about. On my 1st playthrough about to fight Gael
Man is about to experience peak ds3
twin princes have been my favourite souls boss since i first faced them
Same here. The ost is amazing. Best in the series except maybe Gael.
Great boss. I used to enjoy helping people fight them in coop. So many good bosses in this game. My favourite Souls
Same! Dragonslayer armor is the only other boss from this game to crack the top 5 list all time across the series.
Hey Dmod here’s a tip, on the Nameless King when he does the charged lightning attack that “homes in on you” like you described at 15:46, you can “dodge” it by simply unlocking on from him, and turning your camera around so your character and camera are facing AWAY from him and just stand still, the lightning will never hit you. Trust me, try it.
I've been doing this for years now and in the context of the fight it's hillarious.
'Look at my big lightning attack!!!'
'No'
'ok'
I believe that shit also works in PVP to the point you had to free aim the weapon art to land it on players who were aware of the trick... or not, it's been 5 years since I put down my sword.
But everything is already too easy for Dmod. He just breezes through everything all the time!
Calling the pinnacle of the core series an “awkward middle child” is ridiculous
Dark souls 1 is better. It's slow and simple, the way I like it. A game where I can use my basic Elite Knight Build with a sword and board, and not suffer the whole time.
@ Dark Souls 3 is actually Infamous for letting people just spam R1 through the whole game with starting weapons. Wtf are you on about
@@James-kv3ll snapped shields in half. That's what im on about. it ain't sword and board without a board.
Really feel a ranking is skewed if you are playing NG+ with ranked up weapons. NG runs are so different due to experience and gear.
I do understand it’s impossible to go back to that first ever experience however
The community ranking only included the base game bosses so I'm using the 7 year old initial DLC ranking for this one. Yes, it was seven years since Ringed City. Yes, I feel old.
25- Deacons of the Deep. Down by 2. Original 25: Wolnir
24- Wolnir. Up by 1. Original 24: Iudex Gundyr
23- Ancient Wyvern. Down by 4. Original 23: Deacons of the Deep
22- Yhorm. No Change
21- Old Demon King. Down by 6. Original 21: Curse Rotted Greatwood
20- Curse Rotted Greatwood. Up by 1. Original 20: Vordt
19- Vordt. Up by 1. Original 19: Ancient Wyvern
18- Iudex Gungnir. Up by 6. Original 18: Crystal Sage
17- Grave Watchers. Down by 1. Original 17: Abyss Watchers
16- Abyss Watchers. Up by 1. Original 16: Grave Watchers
15- Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10. Original 15: Old Demon King
14- Halflight. No Change.
13- Crystal Sage. Up by 5. Original 13: Dragonslayer Armour
12- Pontiff Sulyvahn. No Change.
11- Champion Gundyr. Down by 2. Original 11: Aldrich
10- Aldrich. Up by 1. Original 10: Oceiros
9- Dragonslayer Armour. Up by 4. Original 9: Champion Gundyr
8- Nameless King. Down by 2. Original 8: Soul of Cinder
7- Oceiros. Up by 3. Original 7: Demon Princes
6- Dancer. Down by 3. Original 6: Nameless King
5- Soul of Cinder. Up by 3. Original 5: Lothric and Lorian
4- Demon Princes. Up by 2. Original 4: Sister Friede
3- Gael. Down by 1. Original 3: Dancer
2- Freide. Up by 2. Original 2: Gael
1- Midir. No Change.
Biggest Gain: Iudex Gundyr. Up by 6.
Biggest Loss: Lothric and Lorian. Down by 10.
So, correct me if I’m wrong, he’s basing this list off of a run where he used a weapon that’s overleveled for half of the bosses he fought instead of their actual movesets and difficulty
It's almost like he used his knowledge of the game to get as powerful as possible. Gasp, how dare he. Everyone knows the only valid way to rank souls bosses is through playing the game with a +1 dingleberry
@ that’s not what I’m saying tho I’m saying he’s not basing the list off of what the boss actually is and just an overpowered run he did. Don’t get me wrong I’m fine with people playing the game who they want get as overpowered as you like but it just doesn’t seem that that’s the way you should base your boss ranking off of which is off of the boss
@@youdontknowme9184you sound dumb. Edit or delete your comment kid.
"this boss was too easy with my totally overpowered character and 2 thousand hours of gameplay time!"
@@jarlwhiterun7478 lol
For my money Friede takes my spot as the hardest boss in the three Souls games. If you don't have a weapon that staggers her on hit, you are in a world of pain. And taking into account that she can recover in an instant and jump out of your range.
I fought the 3 big dlc bosses for the first time a couple of months ago, and I was able to beat gael and midir on my 1st and 3rd try. Friede took me maybe 10 to 15 tries. She was a bitch
I would personally consider her the hardest boss as well given three phases, her invisibility and the second phase gank.
I agree she whooped my ass the hardest
Ur taking me back to the good old days. Luv ya
Fun video. also Crystal sage next to pontiff is crazy to me. ahahaha
Slave knight gale at 3 blows my mind
@@andrewsrjohnson96 He's easier than Friede since his moves are quite predictable and Midir has literally god levels of HP. A fight that long just means more opportunities to make a mistake that gets you killed.
@@kevingriffith677big HP means nothing. Every single one of his attacks are heavily telegraphed and he just leaves his head right open. He’s way easier than Gael and Friede
Dragonslayer Greataxe is a great str/fth weapon. 40/40 can output nuclear damage
No way bros still posting these 😂I’ve always loved them!! Just beat the dancer as my 3rd boss in my first new game plus
Ds3 is the best game in the dark souls trilogy
It has the highest quality of bosses,spectacular level design and immaculately balanced difficulty,the bosses might not have been the hardest in the series,but I had more fun fighting the princes and nameless than even the best bosses in ds2 because ds2 is simply too slow,but ds3 has bloodborne's faster combat blended seamlessly into its action economy,making it just fast enough to keep my attention and just enough of a challenge to give me a sense of achievement when I overcome a boss...
I’m gonna disagree with you on the part about level design buddy. Admittedly the drab color palette may play some part in it but these levels are a total drag to get through. They’re just…not fun. I think, with the exception of Farron Keep and MAYBE the Painted World of Ariandel, they’re too linear. This may be a bit of a hot take but I honestly prefer Blighttown from DS1 to most of these levels. My biggest issue with that area is just how much distance there is between the Depths Bonfire and the first Blighttown Bonfire. Once you get past that, the area’s not so bad. The toxic dart guys are annoying but the rest of the area is interestingly designed and both the lighting and color palette make it look very unique. DS3’s areas are just boring.
@@KingCasual1986
Saying you prefer blight town over any levels in ds3 is a wild statement,regardless I kinda see why people wouldn't like it since alot of the areas just kinda feel like really long run-ups to the bosses,which are immaculate but it's like having a dinner consisting of only main courses,no soup,no appetizer,just full main dishes...
Did a DS3 run after putting in literal thousands of hours into Elden Ring the past two years, and jeez is this game a breeze now. Even the old nightmares like Nameless King were a snooze because of how limited his moveset actually is. The only boss I died to was Midir because I got cocky and didn't have enough heals. Compared to Bayle though he was very manageable. And Midir used to be that unbeatable boss for me too. Not anymore.
Elden ring is by far the hardest fromsoft game imo.
After I played Elden Ring I breezed through all the other games without a lot of resistance.
Ds3 was my first souls game back in 2017 and that felt really hard, but compared to what Elden Ring has to offer it cant compete
Dropping this right near the end of the workday on a Friday is a champ maneuver, well played Ashen One
Nostalgic to revisit these boss rankings
I love having these videos back, you’re a legend ❤️❤️
DS3 is probably the weirdest of the Souls games to revisit. Knowing about skips like the tree jump and the two Cathedral shortcuts, almost all the friction the game has to offer is pared down to a minimum. Everyone just blitzes Vordt, jumps off the cliff for Yoel’s free levels, etc. On the bright side, No Storm Yhorm is a great time, and essentially reclaims a gimmick boss into a genuine fight.
You realize there are strategies like this in every DS game? Every single game has shortcuts and tricks to get things faster/easier. That's the purpose of a speedrun. Also, nobody is forcing you to use the Tree Jump or any other shortcut, that's up to how you play the game.
Hot damn, that hit at 20:36 was crazy pro. I would of never even thought to try that. Well played!
It's crazy that you re-make this list now, as I've just completed my first play through of DS3! Super interesting to hear a veteran's take on all the bosses. I've seen your original boss ranking, so I wasn't going into any of the boss fights completely blind. And as you say, after the unrelenting ferocity and speed of Elden Ring bosses, this game's roster felt quite easy, but still very enjoyable. Here's how many times I died to each boss!
First try:Deacons(lol), Yorm, Greatwood, Vort, Gunder1, Crystal Sage, Pontif, Aldritch, Dragon Slayer Armor, Consumed King, and to my surprise, Soul of Cinder.
1 death: Ancient Wyvern (he moved his head just as I jumped down to kill him!), Old Demon King, Gunder2, Twin princes, and Dancer
5 deaths: Abyss Watchers. Not quite sure why they had my number for a bit. I was playing spear and shield until I met these guys, the shredded my stamina. Then I switched to that big exile curve sword found on the Faron NPC, and that was way better.
10ish/lost count: Not sure how many times I died, I was just having so much fun with the boss, I didn't really care! It wasn't too many, took me less than a half hour. It was the first boss that challenged me, and you're right felt very elden ring-esc. The camera sucked ass though during the first phase.
I'm now taking on the DLC, looking forward to gael and Freide!
Its crazy how bosses in this game were great for its time, bur now compared to ER, every boss feels like 0.5 version of its ER counterpart. Just shows how much FromSoft improved in combat balance and boss design.
Yeah barely... ER's bosses are for sure more complex but only Godfrey is on the same level as best ds3 bosses
@villek3722 What? There are almost a dozen of ER bosses that are better designed than any fight in ds3. Godfrey is one of them, yes.
@@Nrzpokrter I strongly disagree. Friede, Gael, Nameless and Twin princess are better than pretty much every base game ER boss. They are fun fights but often over complicated and rely on delayed attacks so much
@villek3722 unlike Nameless king or twin pronces who dont rely on nameless attacks... right? But ok, if you prefer simplistic bosses and want to only spam roll and light attack for the win, I get that you prefer ds3. I like that Fromsoftware evolved from that tho.
@@Nrzpokrter it exactly same in elden ring tho😂 you just have to spam roll longer since those combos are so long. Or then they have ridiculous attacks like water fowl and moghs undodgeable aoe🤷♂️
Its wonderful seeing this series after years. It feels refreshing and fun as you journey thru the series.
Reminds me of your DS3 speedrun videos. Great vid DeMod!
I love how you complain about Argo, without considering you can just wait and he just leaves.
Cus he speedran the games sooo much he got sick of his unskippable dialogue
Placing Midir on #1 just tells me you've still not understood the fight imo.
He's way more straight forward than any of the other top picks. Both on my first playthrough and now years later as a veteran, Midir is an incredible and great fun fight, but in no way does he top Friede or even Gael in difficulty.
different people find different bosses hard, I definitely struggled more and needed more attempts at midir than I did Gael, and about the same as Frieda
Agree just needs to dodge backwards and it fixes wverything. One of the easiest in ds3.
@@lordcraigdragneel136 You don't even need to dodge you can legit just walk backwards and he cannot hit you with most moves
This is my favorite souls game ever and I stand by that because it's my first souls game and it's so precious to have an impact on my life.
You know what’s crazy? Deacons of the Deep and Curse Rotted Greatwood are still awesome boss fights, so it really puts in perspective how amazing the bosses in this game are. DS3 is forever the Boss GOAT.
Cruse Rotted Greatwood is a definitely a horrible boss. Deacons is not bad from a lore prospective. Bur gameplay wise it doesn’t even really feel like a boss fight since it’s basically just a bunch of fodder enemies with red eyes
You know Demod's been on a journey when he finally drops the Twin Prince's in his difficulty rankings
DS3 Haters when they age naturally as time inexorably passes by (it's too linear)
To this day my top three are Midir, Gael, and Friede in said order. After beating elden ring and its DLC I should revisit the trio. Great video, cheers 🍻
14:10 not going to lie, I was fully expecting a VPN ad right there
Great to see this series come back!
If we're talking ng7, I'd say gael takes the cake. Even on a fully leveled character, that damn cape makes me glad to have popped tears of denial on. The damage is unforgiving but fair, the move set is relentless, making it feel like you're in the matrix once you've learned how to dodge correctly. Absolute cinema
How did Soul of Cinder climb so high? Maybe I'll have a different perspective if I were to go back to it now after playing Elden Ring, but for me, his fight was never hard.
Yeah like SOC is my favorite fight in DS3, but he’s really not that tough. I have way more issue with the twin princes
Fight him at level 1...🙄
Soul of Cinder is easily the hardest boss in the base game. It's not even close tbh. Actually even with the DLC only Friede beats him.
Phase 1 has easily the most complex moveset out of DS3 bosses. On a normal run, he just doesn't have enough HP or do enough damage to be a threat. He's a lot worse on challenge runs like sl1 where you're forced to be consistent and can't hit trade
Nameless will always have a special place in my heart as he was the first
souls boss I spent hours and days learning, truly learning every of his moves and actions. (DS3 was my first Souls).
I'm more likely to die to Vordt than to him ^^
What I find interesting is how my tier list is vastly different from yours purely because my runs are always like a glass cannon
So some bosses like Soul of Cinder are higher than ones liek Friede. Especially for a no hit run. I've been attempting that for a while and my goodness, certain bosses are ridiculous
i like to think i have a good bit if experience in the high level of difficulty in ds3 bc ive done an sl1 run and im on ng+26 which means ive done 19 runs at max difficulty and my list would be way different than this but dmod definitely has even more experience than i do so what do i know
i just feel like the logic is kinda weird like old demon king got a low ranking because you can outlevel him and beat his ass and crystal sage got a high ranking because it can be hard if youre underprepared which is inconsistent ranking logic and yea old demon king is not hard but id definitely say he is more challenging than crystal sage with a good, balanced build, especially for new players my buddies died way more to odk when i made them play. just an example like one was low because its easy if you outlevel it and the other was high because its hard if you underlevel it like yea man
Hot take: I think Demon Princes are actually harder than the Friede and Father gank in the 2nd phase. For one thing, Father is not as big as the Demon Princes to the point where it gets hard to read his moves. Just don't get too greedy and watch for the occasional ice floor attack from Friede and use the healing window to wallop on the Father more. For Demon Princes, you will likely spend half the time being under one of them, which makes you susceptible to counterattack from the other one. Or heck, they will just both go so aggro on you that you won't have room to breathe, let alone attack!
And just like 3rd phase of Friede, you aren't out of the woods in that 2nd phase of Demon Prince! You still gotta dodge everything from big sweeps, slams, charges, and projectiles. And with a pretty girthy health pool, Demon Prince is an endurance fight akin to Midir and Nameless King. Good luck finding a consistent way back through that 1st phase when you make costly mistakes that end your run. 😟
This popping up in my recommendations just made it feel like i went back in time
Ngl nameless King took me hundreds of attempts, easily the hardest any boss has ever been for me in any video game
That's crazy. But I fought him not too long ago for the first time.
Boy chewed me up also. Not hundreds but probably 40+
He’s definitely the hardest boss in DS3 for me as well. I do think there are quite a few bosses in other Soulsborne games who are harder than him tho (such as Laurence, Demon of Hatred, Consort Radahn, and Malenia)
Didn't expect all the trading(or face tanking) against Midir despite the knowledge. When I returned to DS3 recently after not touching it for a very long time, I still remembered to walk backwards to neuter the threat of his melee attacks, and then walk in for a whiff punish, which works for weapons of any speed, even charged R2s of a UGS.
You're either good at transitioning audio or DS3 simply has a consistent banger, I appreciate the theme song transitions a lot here.
3:01 I’ve played this game twice and only now am I figuring out about this.
The Watchers were difficult for my first few playthroughs, because I wasn't used to the quick moveset and didn't know how to min-max weapons early. But later, they were the easiest Lord of Cinder for me.
DS3 was my first souls game when I played it in 2017 and the watchers were my first and only ever real roadblock in a game. Feels weird how it took me multiple days of giving up and coming back to beat them and now they feel like a walk in the park. Never experienced anything like that again in a souls game or any game for that matter
Gael and Midir 100% gave me the most trouble my first time, and STILL to this day, give me the most trouble outta all the DS3 bosses
Hell yea! DS3 and its bosses have a special place in my heart
Dark Souls 3 for me the best soulsborne game great to see this series is back 🎉
Midir felt so much easier for me imo than sister friede... that dragons attacks felt so natural for me, i didnt struggle much everytime i fought it. Friede on the other hand drove me fucking nuts.
Halflight above princes is a certifiably insane take
Midir is one of if not my favorite dragon design, but I don't know if I agree that its the hardest DS3 boss. All of its attacks have a pretty easy window to attack his head, I dont see how that makes him hard
Reminded me of Godzilla
Demodcracy my dude what happened to the enthusiasm 😂
I mean, he's basically been forced to make these in order to claw back some viewership. I don't blame him for not being as enthusiastic making the same video a dozen times over
Bro I gotta know where you get your thumbnail art from
Also 24:39 is definitely a spicy take in the larger community, tho I understand it. I personally enjoy both DS2 and DS3 more than DS1, but I definitely see how middling the non-boss portions of the game are with DS3.
Midir being #1 is interesting in that it kinda shows how some players will never feel truly comfortable around certain bosses no matter how much of a veteran they are. Because I think nowadays Midir is considered a pretty tough boss but not the monster he was at DLC launch. But iirc Demod has always struggled with Midir from the beginning. So it’s nice to have that sort of perspective.
For me, Sister Friede would be the only DS3 boss that consistently skillchecks me.
I agree with you on Midir. Seeing this list really brings back memories.
As much as I would like to revisit Bloodborne, it becomes more and more difficult every year as it feels more and more outdated.
If only Sony would give us a remaster.
While Abyss Watchers are my favorite boss, seeing them so low doesnt really surprise me. Thats part of why i like them. Theyre the first lord of cinder you fight and for a new player, they set a tone without feeling overwhelming. Plus with the environmental story telling all through farron keep leading up to them hinting at the assist you get, the whole fight feels like a test of what youve learned in the first 1/4 as ipposed to an obstacle. It's a well designed, fair, early game test.
I need to go back soon, man this one was good ❤
In the base game, I've died much more to Nameless than I have Soul. Soul just felt like a Hunter fight from Bloodborne to me and I had gotten so used to those that Nameless was the first major challenge when I started DS3, followed by Aldrich when I tried to play a mage
I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but Iudex Gundyr's jump slam attack can be parried in the first phase. I was a little bewildered when I saw it, but adding another attack that can be parried really speeds up the fight, I think.
The wording in the friede part is devious
So I’m currently halfway through the video (crystal sage) and I have 2 things to note.
1. The spear of the church fight NEVER goes as easy against a real player regardless of how many resources the host has as long as the boss isn’t stupid. I have videos of me absolutely decimating ganks as the boss and having so many heals stacked.
2. To make the second phase of crystal sage easier just carry throwing knives. The clones die from literally 1 damage so you’re not wasting time. Git gud newb
I didn't even realize you could reposte the old demon king lol
I just started playing this game again after like 3 years. I just finished ringed city for the first time. I beat the twin princes my first time after only 1 day of playing on my old character. After several days I noticed I hadn't beaten the NK on that character yet. I've tried 5 times now.... Oh I also beat Gael my 2nd time, but still can't beat NK. I got Midir down to 25% health my 2nd try then he beat me the next 4 times. Boss difficulty and how it affects everyone differently is crazy. Several years ago I gave up on Freide. I probably tried it over 15 times. Then day one of getting back into it I beat her.
I've loved the series since the beginning, but I think it would make for a much better video if you haven't upgraded your health above 15
Question, when is a jedi survivor video coming out? When I beat fallen order your videos about it's bosses popped up and I just beat jedi survivor and was anxious to hear your takes.
No boss has ever taken me longer than nameless king did in 2016. Melania/consort Rhadan on paper are so much harder but when I played ds3 for the first time I was stuck on nameless for so much longer than the bosses in elden ring
Comically, I found Nameless King to be significantly less difficult than Champion Gundyr during my first playthrough. Even WITH having to cleave through King of Storms every runback, I spent longer on Gundyr than I did on Gwyn's disowned progeny.
It was the hockey checks and rear-kicks. They did not play nicely with my UGS speed deficit.
Personally, I think Fume was harder. But that might be more to do with DS2's slightly more jank controls.
This is what we want, this is what we NEED!
Always cool to get a different perspective as someone who has played these games a lot and over a long period of time (so your skill and play style evolved). I think for me Nameless King will remain king of hard for DS3. He always takes me the longest to kill. I played Elden Ring as my 1st Souls game but I guess I never learn delays properly lol. But DS3 stood out to me playing these games, I just love the bosses and think that as a whole DS3 has the best boss line up. From the dancer on is just banger after banger. (tho I have not played Sekiro or Bloodbourne).
Stickerbrush Symphony at the end? Have a like, my good and cultured fellow 👍
I dont know if you can compare the difficulty of killing the bosses with a +9 weapon...
The earlier and mid bosses are not intended to be faced with a meta character and weapon.
You should have compared them at their intended level
Disagree on Midir being #1. All his swipe combos and bites can be avoided by sprinting or spam rolling backwards. You can even find lots of Midir no roll videos where you see people just walk backwards and outspace almost all his moves. He'd still be in my top 5 for the massive HP pool though
We still getting a Black Myth: Wukong ranking at some point??
One of my proudest soulsborne moments is still beating Midir on my first try on my first playthrough with a dark exile curved greatsword not even considering that it would do less damage. It must've been a 15 minute fight, I ran out of sunny d around the halfway mark and had about 200 health left for the last third. Only taking the safest possible openings until I beat him
Goddamn, these thumbnails have been straight fire demod
I think it’s his editor
I’ve been replaying dark souls 3 (and going past where I left off in the ringed city). I’m fighting the bosses on my own and I’ve generally been enjoying it a lot more than my first time playing the game with my claymore. For some reason, my claymore never seemed like it did good damage while my weapons and spells do pretty good damage in this run. I beat Friede a few days ago and it was definitely the hardest fight so far, but by the time I beat her, I ended up enjoying the fight.
I had a hard time with the game when I first played it, and I was using a some kind of straight sword or claymore. I later played the game through after playing ER through with a friend wielding dual Giant Crushers, I decided to just stick with heavy hammers, and steamrolled the game with Vordt's Great Hammer, most deaths against the bosses I had were against Midir, and that was 2, so I won on third time. Nameless King was 2nd try, almost everything else was 1st try and none of it was even close.
I don't know if this is a hot take, but I've never found the dragonslayer Armour to be remotely difficult. Sure, he got me a few times on my first playthrough, but I don't think I've died to him since. It's a very fair fight with plenty of opportunity to counter. Heck, I consistently have more trouble with the Abyss watchers
One thing people don't really pay attention to is fire can wipe your frostbite status effect hence letting friede frostbite you again
Never seen such thing in any other boss ever
Ahh there’s something nostalgic about this
Actually you can evade the lightning strike from the Namless King. If you don't look at him while he is charging up, the lightning doesn't hit you.
Damn, the end tho... I feel pretty much the same way after replaying the trilogy, now replaying Elden Ring (no PS so no Demon's or Bloodborne, and Sekiro is another beast entirely as much as I love it)
Dark Souls 1 still has top tier atmosphere and makes you feel so small and powerless in a hostile world. It's wonderfully depressing, and while the bosses are now slow and sluggish after playing Elden Ring so much, they still hold up.
Dark Souls 2 has many flaws, MANY, but it's kind of "the whole is more than the sum of its parts", somehow, despite the flaws, it has its charm and the overall experience is enjoyable and memorable, even if only a handful of bosses (Sir Alonne, Fume Knight, Ivory King, Blue Smelty, Sinh, Velstadt, Lost Sinner and Mirror Knight) are actually great and most of the areas are no better than mediocre, but yeah, it's remarkable how despite having not so great ingredients it manages to be a pretty good experience.
Meanwhile Dark Souls 3 has great ingredients (the best gameplay and bosses of the trilogy) but in this case the whole is less than the sum of the parts. It's indeed painfully linear, and you might as well just ignore the areas because the bosses are why you're playing anyways. A shame, I think only Irithyll, Ringed City, Lothric Castle + Grand Archives, Cathedral of the Deep and to a lesser extent Ariandel could compete with the best areas of Dark Souls 1.
Elden Ring is my favorite still, alongside Dark Souls 1.
and yet remains, Dark souls 3 is my favorite game of all time
You really ought to do this kind of analysis on the bosses in MGR: Revengeance. Some of those bosses are works of art. Was bummed you didn't click with that game.
That was similar to DS3 actually. He loved the bosses ALOT, he just didn't like the rest of the game
@@soulsmasterxw7373 If you only give them one run on Normal, you miss so much genius about their design. So many moves and combo variations. You have a counter to everything, but it is a lot. So fun to master.
Currently sitting in the ads before the video. My guess for easiest is Crystal Sage, Iudex Gundyr, Wolnir, Old Demon King or Ancient Wyvern. (The list is a personal thing, don't bash me.)
Wolnir bc.... Wolnir. Wyvern, bc it's literally a one-shot if you do the plunging attack, and ODK because well, most people fight him when they're mad over leveled for his fight. 😭
25: I was wrong. Deacons as #25 makes sense.
24: Wolnir at #24. I like it.
23: Ancient Wyvern! Guessed it. I heavy fw this tier list so far.
22: I should've guessed Yhorm. But, even with Storm Ruler, he's killed me once or twice when I got careless. 🙌
21: Even he said it. 😭
20: Tbh, Idk. I struggled with CRG.
19: I haven't died to Vordt since my first playthrough, so... But yeah, he's difficult for newer players.
18: Iudex...? Fair.
17: Haven't fought the Gravetender, so.
16: Abyss Watchers ran my shit on my first playthrough. 100% agree, they're difficult.
15: This one.. I don't agree with. Twin Princes was easily one of the hardest fights for me. But it's fair.
14: Get this goofy ahh NPC boss outta here. Fuck Halflight. 💀
13: How is Crystal Sage *here* ? I've never seen anyone struggle with her.
12: Pontiff is proper difficult. This placement makes sense.
11: Champ gave me a run for my money on my initial playthrough. I like this placement.
10: Aldrich is super easy if he doesn't spam the arrows.
9: I rarely have trouble with DSA anymore. But his combos did mess me up a few times.
8: I never really struggled with NK.. But his combos are quite shit to deal with when he delays them.
7: Oceiros is only here because he's bullshit. The Schizophrenic Dragon is cool though.
6: Of all the bosses I've faced, Dancer ranks among the hardest for me. She's so difficult to anticipate.
5: SoC.... A perfect end to a perfect trilogy of games. I respect this placement. O7
4: Haven't fought the Demon Princes, so. Can't argue really.
3: Haven't fought Gael.
2: Haven't fought Friede...
1: I haven't fougth Midir. I don't have the DLCs yet. Getting them real soon.
SL1 ranking of bosses would be cool.
Why not do a list like this but on SL1? That's a whole different beast!
Do you think it be too much to do a video of the top 10 hardest bosses from Dark souls 1-3 and Elden ring? To see which game has the true hardest bosses?
Lothric and Lorian isn't hard to pull off until you reach NG+3 and have to deal with both princes at the same time, while they do enough damage to kill pretty much any build in 1 to 2 hits.
This is one of those fights that is much more balanced for upwards of NG+
Gael being in the top 3 is nuts ngl.
Beta Elden Ring boss 😂
I watched this at a good time
Are you telling me I’ve been playing Dark Souls 3 for seven years and I still never knew Wolnir actually uses his sword??? 😭