Why Everything You Know About Hell Is Wrong: Theologian's Eye-Opening Perspective-Is this biblical?
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Interesting, question: So you believe God will burn sinners in an eternity of progressive, unceasing, unending fire for a few years of rebellion? Do you think the justice is fair? *Please like and subscribe for more content. Thank you friend!
Matthew 25:41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
The Bible teaches that hell is a place not just death....for punishment to be what it is the person has to be alive to experience it
You forget God says that he is the God of vengeance. We can see his judgement all throughout the old testament.
Please don't lead people astray let the Bible speak.
@@emilyjones1083 I made a video about the topic that answers three questions, what is hell fire, where is it, and when is it and it demonstrates that the whole Scripture teaches the complete and permanent destruction of the wicked. Please check it out.
@@anilkanda611 I made a video on my channel that side steps this line of reasoning entirely because I think at the end of the day, someone can just say, "God's ways are higher than our ways" or "sin against an infinite God requires infinite punishment." It's essentially two philosophical positions battling it out without Scriptural grounding. But when you answer the "what, where, and when" of hell, eternal conscious torment goes out the window. It simply doesn't match with the arc of the entire narrative. Hope you check it out.
Jesus said (multiple times), “…where the worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched.” A fire that is not quenched means it burns eternally, and the worm not dying means that it is an eternal tormentor.
Biblical references to eternal torment:
-Matthew 25:24 (depart into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels)
-Matthew 3:12 (shame and everlasting contempt)
-Daniel 12:2 (the fire is not quenched)
-Mark 9:44-49 (a place of torment and fire)
-Luke 16:23-24 (Everlasting Destruction)
-Revelation 14:10-11 (the smoke of torment rises forever and ever)
-Revelation 20:10 (a Lake burning with sulfur where the wicked are tormented day and night forever and ever)
He is clearly wrong.
Metaphorical Language: The phrase "where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched" is often understood metaphorically. It is a quotation from Isaiah 66:24, where the imagery of undying worms and unquenchable fire symbolizes complete and utter destruction, not perpetual torment.
Finality of Judgment: In the context of Isaiah, this imagery points to the finality and completeness of God's judgment. The undying worm and unquenchable fire signify a judgment that is irreversible and total. In annihilationism, this can be interpreted as the complete consumption and destruction of the wicked, leaving no possibility for restoration.
Annihilationism Perspective
Permanent Destruction: Annihilationists argue that "their worm does not die" and "the fire is not quenched" means that the process of destruction is unending until it is fully accomplished. Once the wicked are consumed by this fire, they cease to exist, but the fire itself is eternal in its consuming power.
Symbol of Irrevocable Judgment: The worm and fire indicate an irrevocable judgment. The worm that "does not die" emphasizes the permanence of decay and destruction, while the unquenchable fire highlights the intensity and completeness of God's judgment, ensuring that nothing survives.
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@@anilkanda611: If you say these scripture references are metaphorical, was JESUS'S death also metaphorical?
Would GOD have taken on flesh to save man, and get a slap in the face after the kind of death HE experienced?
If we deny CHRIST, HE will deny us, saying, " depart from me, you worker of iniquity... you know the rest.
So then, what happens to those HE rejects?
And I don't believe that we will be in heaven thinking about those who rejected GOD. Because we will be in our heavenly bodies, and this means heavenly minds - focusing on all the glory of GOD before us. We will be more like HIM. We will have no worries, no tears.
This pastor made JESUS'S death of no essence.
GOD being a GOD of love, didn't spare HIS son.
Why would he spare man whom HE did everything for to reconcile to HIMSELF?
If these scriptures are metaphorical, then maybe " Lazarus and the rich man's" ordeal is also metaphorical. Then Satan being bond in hell is also metaphorical. Sin, eternal condemnation and heaven are all metaphorical.
@@anilkanda611 I appreciate that you are open to discussion on these points.
The undying fire and the quenchable worm seem to indicate to that God's intention here is continuously judge whatever is placed here. If God's intended purpose was to annihilate people in the fire, then why would he make a fire that was eternal? Additionally, I think the mention of the undying worm is not a reference to the fire killing the worm. Why is the worm referenced? Because worms are present where there is death and decay; worms live by feasting on rotting flesh. The fact that the "worm dies not" seems to be a reference to the fact that those sent to the undying lake of fire will never stop burning, just as they will never cease feeding the worms as death and decay does.
Furthermore, the Scriptures contrast eternal life and eternal damnation. If the damnation is not eternal, then we must assume that the life it is contrasted against is not eternal, either. Certainly, we know that the life that the Lord offers is unending, so in similar manner, we can be sure that this damnation is eternal, as well.
Daniel 12:1-2
"At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."
Matthew 25:31-46
'When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, “Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” . . . Then he will say to those on his left, “Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. . . . And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”'
Revelation 14:9-11
If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.
In Revelation, it is stated that the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night. This indicates that they will never have rest, and will be tormented eternally. This is consistent with all of the passages that mention "eternal fire."
Revelation 20:10, 14-15
And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. . . . Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Again, this is another reference to "torment forever and ever." That is not language that would be used if those being tormented were consumed.
@@anilkanda611 Matthew 25:46 ("And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.").
Lots of philosophizing- very little scripture.
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@@anilkanda611 I didn't watch the whole video yet. In the first segment he answered the question "Where does the idea of hell come from?" He gave every reason besides the fact that the idea of hell comes from the Bible. Yes, he did continue to transition into the Bible after. We ultimately don't know 100% who goes to heaven and hell. We don't know if babies who die go to hell, or those who have never heard the gospel. We have to rely on the character of God in how he judges categories of people that seem to bend our finite rational minds. I think there is evidence to believe that God can save people in miraculous ways tho, maybe even post "death" as we define it. The exact point that someone "dies" is actually not completely understood medically. Lots of NDE reports they find Jesus shortly after being considered dead.
Scripture's description of hell:
“eternal fire” (Matthew 25:41), “unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12), “shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2), a place where “the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44-49), a place of “torment” and “fire” (Luke 16:23-24), “everlasting destruction” (2 Thessalonians 1:9), a place where “the smoke of torment rises forever and ever” (Revelation 14:10-11), and a “lake of burning sulfur” where the wicked are “tormented day and night forever and ever” (Revelation 20:10).
@@thensaidJacob hmm I wonder how contempt works for one that DOESN'T EXIST? These ppl are trying to argue against the Bible, pray for them.
@@arcguardian great point! I agree.
@@arcguardian
I find Hitler contemptible. He's still dead.
We are living in a very dangerous time. We all need to study the Scriptures for ourselves, let's pray for God's grace and for the Holy Spirit to correct heresy.
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the annihilation doctrine is not a biblical doctrine, it is not a Christian doctrine, the Lord Jesus never taught this, nor did the apostles or the fathers of the church. This teaching is heresy.
Both “those” who practiced good and evil will hear “His voice,” i.e., those in “the tombs.” Further, those who practiced good and those who practiced evil shall be resurrected to either life or judgment which are eternal.
This is an example of a passage that is problematic for annihilationism that the speaker avoided. In addition, his argument was unconvincing as he only referred back to passages that only apply to those resurrected to life in the context of not being separated from the presence of God as both are raised from the dead.
John 5:28-29 NASB
[28] Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, [29] and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
I made a video about this on my channel. Please check it out. But to answer your question, you're right that the wicked will be resurrected to face the final judgment. And the punishment that they face will be eternal fire. But that's because our God is a consuming fire(Heb 12:29). And a river of fire issues from His throne. (Daniel 7:10) This eternal fire will come down from His throne and burn up the wicked(Rev 20:9). This destruction is the lake of fire. It will consume all the wicked, some not so instantaneously. Satan and his angels have a lot of souls to answer for. The punishment will be perfectly just. The fire won't go out since it is just God's unrestrained glory and harmless to the saints and any sinless thing(Daniel 3, Ex. 3, Rev 15:2). But the wicked will be ashes(Mal 4:1,3) even Satan will be consumed in the flames eventually. (Ez 28:18)
This passage in Isaiah spells out the Biblical notion of hell clearly. Is 33:14,15
Sinners in Zion are terrified;
Trembling has seized the godless.
“Who among us can live with the consuming fire?
Who among us can live with continual burning?”
He who walks righteously and speaks with sincerity,
He who rejects unjust gain
And shakes his hands so that they hold no bribe;
He who stops his ears from hearing about bloodshed
And shuts his eyes from looking upon evil
Matthew 25:46 ("And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.").
David pawsons book"the road to hell",its a tuff read but you will be in no doubt about reality of an eternal hell where there is no mercy no hope no rest night or day,tormented forever and ever forever and ever
Question: how is that biblically compatible with everything we know about God?
A protracted sentence with eternal consequences (complete end) makes more sense on every level than a medieval torturing that is unceasing and progressive.
Read "the road to hell" by David pawson".we have gods word,you just have interpretation ,when christ spoke simply all understood exactly what he ment
@@anilkanda611 I believe what is more compelling is the point that eternal punishment without actual death means that sin will be preserved for eternity. This means God's idea of justice involves perpetuating sin because He is unwilling to or unable to end it. However, this violates the basic meaning of the word. Crimes occur in prison because our justice system is imperfect and prison guards can't stop the crimes and sinning all the time. So injustice continues to occur even when someone is being punished. If God were TRULY just, then He'd have to, at some point, stop people from sinning else He is incapable or unwilling to deliver true and final justice to the universe.
@@anilkanda611 Matthew 25:46 ("And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.").
What about Luke 16:19-31The rich man and Lazarus
It's a parable because of the symbolism, but its real lesson is there is no communication between the living and the dead. Second, the actual Lazarus was raised in front of the Pharisees and they sought to kill Jesus-thus fulfilling the last part of the parable. Check out John 11 and see what Jesus teaches about death and sleep. *Please like and subscribe for more content. Thank you friend!
@@anilkanda611it's not a parable, it's an account.
@@anilkanda611:
That is speculation.
The Lazarus in the parable WASN'T sent back but the Lazarus, who wasn't a beggar full of sores, that was raised was sent back.
So, your theory woefully fails the test.
Now, can you give us another parable in the entire bible where Jesus uses the name of REAL CHARACTERS to support your claim that it is a parable and nothing more??
I don’t know whether it is the same Lazarus that Christ is talking about.
@@vijentichandra4177 :
It is clearly not.
True! People don't read the bible in context and they don't make sure of the meanings of words in the bible. Study the Word of God properly!
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Yet, very, very few at a time are able to Spiritually Discern it, and no religion has ever done it.
The Bible is the story of the Return to Illumination, the Return to Spirit as the True Self, written by Mystics through the Disregard of Mortality and the Receptivity to Spiritual Immortality. It can NOT be understood through the human intellect. It can only be Spiritually Discerned, and this must be Developed Only through the dropping of mortal beliefs, and meditating/dwelling in the Secret Place of the Most High, which is Divine Consciousness(also known as the Christ Infinite and the Son of Man).
God IS the Only Presence!
The bible is not the story of a Being outside of us sitting in judgement, giving and withholding, or sending a super-being called Jesus to die for our sins while we live in a world of illness, hatred, bigotries, diseases, death, etc.
It is about the Christ in All being allowed to Flow Freely without interference from mortal beliefs and thoughts.
It's about I and the Father being One through the dropping away of a belief in mortality.
If you are not a Mystic(the Awareneness that Only God is, which is Christ Realization)you are not following the Teaching of Christ, you are worshipping graven images, starting with what you believe to be your mind and body....
Both the religious and atheistic world interpret the Mystical(Only God is Awareness)teaching of the Bible through the same illusory faculty known as human intellect, and this is what the Mystical Manuscript points out to those that are able to Discern it. Religion is born of ignorance, and atheism is born of religion, so what we have here are two sides of the same coin of nothingness. Both turn away from Oneness, from Omnipresence, from Spirit, from God.
Therefore, it doesn't matter if your life is filled with religious beliefs, atheistic beliefs, scientific beliefs, murderous beliefs, racist beliefs, gender beliefs, good beliefs, self-will, or any other belief that removes you from God, it is all the same ILLUSION.
Evil lies with the False Sense of Self that believes it is separate from God/Spirit. God/Spirit knows nothing of Iniquity/Evil, and if able to truly understand the Bible you would know that TO SEE SIN AND A SINNER IS TO BE THE SIN AND THE SINNER.(Sin is Self Indulged Nuisance in which you turn away from God in the belief that you know more than God, because God Only Knows Infinite Perfection, while you believe in finite imperfection).
The Mystic knows that "Satan" is the many thoughts constantly racing through the mind that we believe are ours, but in fact come from a World Mind belief in Duality(birth/death....god/satan....good/evil.....male/female). The world mind is the Father of All Lies to the Mystic, while the thoughts that are constantly tempting us to believe they are real is the Devil. Nothing of this world is actually taking place, yet to entertain the temptation to believe it is happening is what the bible calls: The Temptation(yet religion will have you accept a fallen angel named Lucifer is at work, and this is as Erroneous as any mortal belief, and is in fact: ATHEISM).
To sum up every Illumined Being that appeared as mortal man:
Surrender to the Force of Incorporeal, Omnipresent Immortality known as the Kingdom of Heaven Within Right Here, Right Now!
Let God doeth the work!
MARK 9:48, In hell, the worms do not die, and the fire never goes out.” FALSE TEACHER -STOP MISLEADING PEOPLE.
Metaphorical Language: The phrase "where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched" is often understood metaphorically. It is a quotation from Isaiah 66:24, where the imagery of undying worms and unquenchable fire symbolizes complete and utter destruction, not perpetual torment.
Finality of Judgment: In the context of Isaiah, this imagery points to the finality and completeness of God's judgment. The undying worm and unquenchable fire signify a judgment that is irreversible and total. In annihilationism, this can be interpreted as the complete consumption and destruction of the wicked, leaving no possibility for restoration.
Annihilationism Perspective
Permanent Destruction: Annihilationists argue that "their worm does not die" and "the fire is not quenched" means that the process of destruction is unending until it is fully accomplished. Once the wicked are consumed by this fire, they cease to exist, but the fire itself is eternal in its consuming power.
Symbol of Irrevocable Judgment: The worm and fire indicate an irrevocable judgment. The worm that "does not die" emphasizes the permanence of decay and destruction, while the unquenchable fire highlights the intensity and completeness of God's judgment, ensuring that nothing survives.
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Exactly they are misleading people and they will pay for that 😒
Don't be too quick to judge. The concept of hell is really confusing and somewhat ambiguous but I personally lean towards annihilationism.
@berane8909 We are not judging. But just think you're self, GOD send His Son to come and die for us . Jesus dies a shameful death, brutal death if you don't understand what I mean go and read Isaiah 53 you will understand what am talking about. By this people saying that, this will make people to make bad decisions and when they are gone out of this world, they will regret what they are going to face. Thus why I always saying that I would rather leave holly life according to the scriptures and meet Jesus when am out of this world. Fire is really don't try to comfort your self. Thus why only you need is to ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST TO BE YOUR SAVIOUR THUS THE ONLY WAY TO ESCAPE GOD"S WRATH.
@@anilkanda611Annihilationism is false doctrine and it's likely a doctrine that is comforting to those who are living in rebellion to God.
REVELATION 20:10
KJ21
And the devil who had deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
For ever and ever doesn't sound like ceasing to exist to me and those who follow Satan will be tormented with their master Satan forever.
It’s simple if God going to put an end to evil how can he create a new heaven and earth and still have souls being tormented in hell that’s oxymoron behavior
Exactly!
If there is no eternal hel ot eternal fire why would you need to preach the Good news or the Gospel , pepole can live and do anything they want defile thier bodies, kill, murder and rape and they are just going to be annihilated like that. Then whats the prupose of the dwath of Jeaus Christ and we dont need any church or any teaching we can live our lives the way we want and anyhow there is no eternal punishment because God loves every body, when you study too much and only have knowledge you can manipulate Gods word
Because the option is life or nothingness. Eternal life is life with the eternal life giver, Jesus. He gives access to tree of life.
Outside of that, lostness leads to complete destruction.
Praise God for He is righteous in His judgement of the world! In the Bible, fire is quite literally described as consuming, destroying and purifying force. Whether it’s the sacrifices at the tabernacle, the entire altar on Mt. Carmel (1 Kings 18:38) and even rebellious humans. No where in Scripture is fire presented as a force that does not consume while perpetually causing harm to its victim. Perfect example: Jesus Himself descended to save Daniel’s three friends from the same FIRE that burned up the king’s guards because it would have consumed them. The same shall be when God enacts His final judgement on the wicked. His protection will keep the Redeemed safe within the walls of the New Jerusalem while the wicked are consumed by the Fire that came down from Heaven.
This is the analysis people need. Get deeper in the Word. I made a video about that that covers some of those passages.
This is my favorite show
Yesss! Glad to hear that
Even if annihilation is the final judgement and there's no eternal torment in hell, i still would prefer to be with God.
False teaching
Hell is a burning fire that was made for The Devil and his Angels
Run away from this man’s teaching
There is not God and evil/mortality/decay/death...
This is Atheism....
God is Infinite Spirit, and God is the Only Presence, the Only Life....
You abandoned God a long time ago and are now experiencing the result of it in the form of Mortal experiences you call human life.
You cast yourself into the fire by turning away from the Omnipresent Spirit of God you are!
God is not the source of any "evil" that afflicts you, past, present, or future; GOD IS NOT THE SOURCE OF IT!
You must absolve God from any responsibility!
God has never been responsible for any evil that has ever touched this world. God is too pure to behold iniquity. The fault does not lie with God.
It is your theological/mortal/scientific beliefs that hold you in bondage, and only the Recognition and Receptivity to Infinite, Omnipresent Spirit of God can set you free.
God doesn't place us into darkness. God compels us out of it. Man must shatter this dream of the mortal sense of birth, decay and death he believes is his life, yet through the belief he is a finite, imperfect, mortal being, man has been trying to improve the mortal dream through war, hatred, dishonesty, religion, politics, voting, praying, science, philosophy, etc.
God wishes to disarrange us, to destroy mortal self; and you wish to preserve what he would destroy through a belief in mortality.
Mortal belief is the spirit of Satan to exalt self above God, and this spirit is fostered by the continual returns you make upon your own doings and misdoings, which leaves no place in your mind for the occupation of GOD/Enternal Life also known as the Secret Place of the Most High!
Satan is not a being opposite of God. Satan is Mortal thought tempting us to believe in a mortal existence separate and apart from the Infinite, Omnipresent Spirit of God!
Orthodox Religion(religious beliefs) teaches a counterfeit salvation through ignorance of the Truth of Being, and is what the Christ refers to as the Hatred Practice of the Nicolaitans.
Christ is birthed(as it was in Jesus, John, Paul, etc) in us when we come to the virginal conscious realization that Spirit(Divine Consciousness)is the Only Presence. It is an unadulterated, unsullied moment of Illumination. It is an immaculate conception of the rare, but highly receptive, intuitive readiness for the Absolute Truth. It is an unblemished, impeccable Mystical insight into our True Spiritual Nature. The Birth of Our Spiritual State of Being as the Activity of Truth in Our Consciousness.
Peace Be Unto You
What you said is not in dispute. Hellfire will be used to destroy the devil. The presenter said that.
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Actually hell is not some created fires and flames but the experience of God eternal Glory as consuming fire
Having watched only a couple of episodes on this channel, it is very clear to me Anil has issues with eternal damnation. It isn’t pleasant, but we are eternal beings, we will not cease to exist. Probably why the Catholic Church came up with the teaching on purgatory. Your guest kind of worried me when he sometimes said “I guess.” Not any bible scholar I’d listen to.
What about people, under this philosophy or a literal forever Hell, who never had an opportunity to hear about Jesus, or even imagine someone like Him? Just annihilation? Or another chance in the Millinium?
Good question. I had that same question. Watch this:
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It is hell for those who die in their sins.
Don't listen to this Man. He is lying There is HELL and all the souls which rejected GOD will end up on HELL. Remember we are living on the last day and JESUS Said there will come a big derception. Twisting the WORD OF GOD.
Yes,Hell is in center of Earth,, burning with brimstone and lake of fire,, SINNERS will end up there...
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Wrong. You think heaven could be a happy place for all eternity knowing sinners are being tortured there. Get real
@@anilkanda611A belief in evil is the absence of the belief in God, as God is the Only Life. The Only Presence. A belief in Evil is the Turning Away from God.
The False Appearances of the Abandonment of the Omnipresent Spirit of God is what the carnal mind calls "evil". Man must drop his belief and reliance upon his mortal senses, turning away from Material Unreality, which opens up a way for the Splendor of Spiritual, Omnipresent Immortality to be the Demonstration of God Realization as all Great Mystics have done. And don't get it wrong, ONLY the Mystic has ever dropped the senses, allowing God to Unfold as his experience. Religion only gets in the way because it keeps God on a leash while it begs for crumbs.
God wishes to disarrange us, to destroy mortal self; and you wish to preserve what he would destroy through a belief in mortality!
We must become a State of Awareness, not a Thinker, but one meek unto Divine Thought!
@@anilkanda611 definitely heaven is a place to live happily forever eternal,,, And hell is place for forever eternal punishment for sinners,,,,
Was always going to be controversial 😅
But I like how their not “filtering” but putting layers of concept over the top of each other… one layer can’t block out the other so all you see one main idea … we need to see everything through all the layers … like Gods character as a father, Gods desire to cultivate what’s good but at the expense of our willingness / will . Consequences that set boundaries …
It’s almost more of a discussion on “ who is God “ than “ is there a hell “
That’s right. Because who God plays into how we perceive justice. Good word though.
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I am leaning toward annihilationism, but what's the point of resurrecting people and possibly even punishing people who are already damned to be destroyed? if they end up not existing, anything prior, from their perspective, might just as well also have never existed.
True. But I think there is some justice and transparency a person receives. The lost are meant to see why their rebellion has made them unfit for heaven. The hitlers don’t get away. Check this out:
www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4988/t/is-the-devil-in-charge-of-hell-
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@@anilkanda611 it cannot be about the one who gets destroyed, what they experience is total vanity, cause at the end of the day they don't exist, it is moreso for the onlookers i guess.
Isaiah 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
@@supersilverhazeroker If you think about the record for all of eternity showing what happened to ensure that sin never rises again a second time, God has got to be shown as completely fair. If you read the description of what happens after the second resurrection, it says that the wicked actually gather their forces to attempt to take the heavenly city. They get to the point of surrounding it. THEN fire comes down from heaven to destroy them. So, not only are they lost and deserving of punishment, but even while they realize this, they still attempt to take the city and show their unwillingness to repent. So, in context, the destructive fire is closer to an act of self-defense than retributive punishment, although that element is present as well. The heavenly record will forever show that the wicked are lost because the wicked chose permanent rebellion and defiance against all reason and love - even after they've bowed and confessed that Jesus is Lord.
For the ones who don’t like this channel how about you make your own channel since you believe everything is misleading here. SMH
How about if you come up with a better idea of what to do over disagreement. I can agree to disagree, and not have to start my own channel. Very juvenile!
The same word used for EVERLASTING life, is used for EVERLASTING torment. Is our pleasure in heaven temporary?, then why does he teach torment as temporary?
friend, I think there difference is: It does not say "everlasting torment" but everlasting punishment. The consequences are permanent. People who are lost shall never be anymore.
www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4988/t/is-the-devil-in-charge-of-hell-
@@anilkanda611 thanks for the correction, but my point remains due to most of scriptures about the topic pointing to eternal torment. Even the punishment in that context would be temporary, unlike our pleasure in the presence of God which would be everlasting. It doesn't make sense for scripture to depict a place where the worm doesn't die, but the human soul somehow dies... what part of "wailing and gnashing of teeth" indicates not being conscious or existing? Why does the last book of Revelation, after new heaven and new earth, say their are evil doers outside if annihilation is true?
Revelation 22:14-16
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14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters and everyone who loves and practices a lie.
16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
When I hear "theologian", I begin to think of someone going to hell. Their theology deceives them and they think they know God
While we’re on the topic of religion
Can anyone give me a good explanation why the catholic Popes audience hall is in the shape and image of a snake eyes fangs and tongue
I think it’s pretty telling of what the Vatican actually is
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@@anilkanda611 i get that it was being facetious.. but so many are fooled by the cathoic religion yet it is evil and corrupt to the core
The "hot topic of hell".....😂❤
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God says, I set before you life and death. Choose life. Free will is therfor linked to your free choice but the result of your choice determines if you have free will. Only when we choose good, do we have free will because God created our free will before the fall and He called it good. God said to Cain after he killed his brother and became a slave to evil. Do you not know you aught to do good, for sin is lurking at the door and its desire is for you. It wants to destroy you. People are under a false impression that they continue to have free will after they allow sin to rule over them. Sin is the evil that cause sickness and death. Sin had to be conquered and through death it gets rectified.
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Revelation 21:8 Revelation 2014 2 Thessalonians 1:9 revelation 20:10 Revelation 1411
Just go read these chapters in Matthew 13 22 25❤
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Revelation 20:10
Joshua 1:1-8. 1Samuel 16:7. Jeremiah 15:1-3. Ezekiel 3:17-20!!! Hebrew 10:28. Like Jesus or Emmanuel. Joshua 1:18. Exodus 20:7-8-12. Deuteronomy 5:1-11. Matthew 27:46. John 10:30. John 14:6. Psalms 22:1?!. 20-21!!! Proverb 27:1. Isaias 13:12. Job 40:18-19. Hebreo 4:12.
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So he is literally saying there is no hell? And it seems many believe him....
He is not saying that. He said that hell isn't forever, but it will destroy and finish the job completely until sin and evil are destroyed forever. People who separate themselves from the life giver rob themselves of life.
@@anilkanda611 actually in the NT it show hell as uncreated. So it is that eternal sin as a though and act would not exist ,but the fallen angels and wicked ego characters would experience the Glory of God that is uncreated as consuming fire
@@user-pj7sq7ce1f wow,so beautifly said,bless you
His mere interpretation and presumption agaisnt taking thr text plainly. Say yes Mark 9: 48. Presumption is mother of all evil. If I die and thats my real end, where is jufgement day, my friend?
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Isaiah 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
This doctor doesn’t know what he is saying. He was asked about someone dying in the fight in the night club and he escaped the question by responding about a 6 months baby dying with cancer… duh! Hell is real. Have you read about Lazarus and the rich in hell? All his responses are nonsense
Ok, but is there a Bible verse that supports that claim?
Hell is not some crated fires and flames . Hell is actually the exoerience and view of God's majestic Glory not as light but as consumming fire. Hell is actually uncreated .
Oooh I like that.
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False.
Matthew 25:41
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41 “Then He will say to those at the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
@@arcguardian what wrong you say ??? Hell exist and it is eternal, where in matthew that you post in the greek original language text says it is some created fires and flames? The word ητοιμασνενον in greek in the verse does not mean created, actually the fire πυρ in the text is called το αιώνιον the eternal , with the article in from of the word , to emphasis that is it uncreated .
@@arcguardian pagan religions and also islam believe in created fires and flames of supposed some hell . Hell is actually how the wicked would experience the majestic Glory of God eternal not as light but as consuming fire .
@@user-pj7sq7ce1f God made hell for Satan and His angels, the text is pretty clear on that. Any location that exists God made by definition.
Anyone who reads and studies their bible without a traditional filter comes to the same conclusion. For years I believed in eternal suffering because that was what I was taught, when I started to let the Holy Spirit lead me instead of man and his tradition the scriptures came alive and I began to see what they truly teach, the scriptures are beautiful.
Yes. People are characterizing God as an evil tyrant who torture people for all of eternity and then say God loves you. Thank God the truth is way better
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@anilkanda611 what?! Who said God is a torturing tyrant? I don't get that at all from the Bible.
This theologian is not familiar with the Bible as he clearly dismissed what God said about the gnashing of teeth and it is burning and is eternal and not that it is just ceasing to exist…. He is very misleading
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Hell is what's left when God leaves. Everything good he will take back. That's why in heaven there will be no suffering. Because all the suffering is what's left. Everything that helps us to overcome problems as we are alive, come from God and belongs to him. So at the end he will take it back and put it in the new earth. Heaven.
People are going to have a hard time to swallow this.
God bless
But the suffering will end.
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Wrong God is everywhere . Hell is actually the view an experience of God's majestic Glory not as light but as consuming fire
Yeah maybe my comment was too simple because there is alot of layers to this. As the story of the rich man and poor man goes, there will be nothing to tame the suffering, even just a little. Nobody from heaven and hell will not be able to reach eachother. Well pray to God for the answers my brothers and sisters. Dont mind me I'm a nobody just loving God. By the way, I never said God isnt everywhere, I just said he will take back what belongs to him.
@@tamou_whanau1441 what i said is that the belief hell being some created fires and flames is a pagan belief. Hell is actually as i read in the greek NT original language the experience of God's Glory as Fire
@@user-pj7sq7ce1f sure, but um, I didnt mention anything about fires and flames. Who really knows, all that matters is we need to stay focused on God. All glory to Jesus.
Everything I know about hell is from the Bible. The Bible says it is an eternal burning hell. The Bible teaches it. Jesus spoke of it much. The only view I have of hell is not coming from the likes of you. My view of hell is exactly what the Bible teaches is very clear. There will weeping and wailing and the nashing of teeth. Hell is quite intense. You better repent and turn to Christ, or you will go there, to hell, that is.
Hey friend check out these verses and decide for yourself. Every question is answered in this study.
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Tsk tsk, these "so -called" theologians.
2 Timothy 3
"7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
Friend. You’ll have to answer these questions then:
1. If sinners are being tormented forever, how can God put an end to sin and evil?
2. If the tree of life is needed for eternal life, (Jesus gives us access again to it in revelation 21) how do the lost live forever?
3-how in the world does a few years of rebellion ever deserve an progressive eternal agony? How is that even justice?
4-how would the righteous ever be happy in heaven if sinners are being tormented below? They could not and neither could God (Ezekiel 33:11)
Lastly, I would suggest watching the whole video before commenting. Annihilationism is the scriptural balance and uplifts God’s character without undermining His justice.
Very dangerous teaching. This is not what the Bible says at all. Don’t tell people this because this is what they want to hear.
Revelation 20:10 - “and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
Revelation 20:14, 15 - “Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”
In verse 10 it says the [Lake of Fire] is where they will be tormented day and night forever. In verse 14 and 15, that same [Lake of Fire] is where all those whose name were not written in the book will be cast in which they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Surely you can’t say that the devil, the beast, and the false prophet are being tormented forever and ever, but people who chose to reject God have simply been destroyed when they are being thrown into the exact same Lake of Fire that those three have been thrown into.
I hope and pray you see this and start telling people the truth of what the Bible says.
Those that believe in eternal torment need to stop and think that maybe their own loved ones will suffer while they enjoy eternal happiness. What a callous mindset which will not qualify THEM for heaven. We serve a loving and merciful God that will never take pleasure in the suffering of His creation.
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Your worm never dies.
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Metaphorical Language: The phrase "where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched" is often understood metaphorically. It is a quotation from Isaiah 66:24, where the imagery of undying worms and unquenchable fire symbolizes complete and utter destruction, not perpetual torment.
Finality of Judgment: In the context of Isaiah, this imagery points to the finality and completeness of God's judgment. The undying worm and unquenchable fire signify a judgment that is irreversible and total. In annihilationism, this can be interpreted as the complete consumption and destruction of the wicked, leaving no possibility for restoration.
Annihilationism Perspective
Permanent Destruction: Annihilationists argue that "their worm does not die" and "the fire is not quenched" means that the process of destruction is unending until it is fully accomplished. Once the wicked are consumed by this fire, they cease to exist, but the fire itself is eternal in its consuming power.
Symbol of Irrevocable Judgment: The worm and fire indicate an irrevocable judgment. The worm that "does not die" emphasizes the permanence of decay and destruction, while the unquenchable fire highlights the intensity and completeness of God's judgment, ensuring that nothing survives.
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Ci sono due differenze luoghi Spirituali dal lato Di Dio c'è pace e armonia per sempre, ma dal lato Spirituale del luogo del male dove satana vive e i suoi adepti diavoli non c'è pace ma un tormento infernale con la nostra anima e coscienza. 😂
English please?
@@anilkanda611 one on the good side with God and the other evil side what we call hell.
If you reject Jesus Christ he will reject you.
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I thought this program only had sound doctrine! The man, is pathetic. blinded by the god of this age! father, in the name of Jesus,open-his eyes. Unstop his ears in Jesus name amen
It does. Study to show yourself approved to God.
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Yes God is compassionate and kind, as well asl He is just. If the idea if hell for him is not eternal torment, that contradicts what is written in the scripture.
Actually Here is what is said in scripture.
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Read the Bible...then you will understand God talks about hell, no poetry ...
What kind of teaching is this? This man is making light of everything that the scriptures say about hell. Does he think JESUS died for nothing? Didn't HE die to save humanity?
And that those who reject HIM will be punished in everlasting fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth?
How can he ignore scriptures and speak from his own thoughts?
If heaven is eternal, hell is eternal.
This man has made JESUS a liar.
He compromised the scriptures, and that's terrible!
The bible says, " Let GOD be true, and every man a liar."
Roman 3 :4.
Believers need to be careful and not be carried away by all winds of doctrine.
Only "believers" with itchy ears will buy what this snake's oil sells man is selling.
Examine the scripture here. Its complete.
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@anilkanda611 : I know what the scriptures say about who's in charge of hell. (I have been reading the bible from my early teens to my late 40s now. Was born again since then, too. Got healed from a heart condition when hospitals gave up on me about 20 years ago) But the devil isn't going there alone. That's why he is doing everything possible to entice humanity, throwing everything he's got at us. That's why we need men of GOD who will preach the WORD as is. Instead of diluting it and making it of no effect.
That pastor you had on your show gave a message that will make any lukewarm Christian relax in sin because there is hardly no consequence for sin. Why should anyone work out his salvation with fear and trembling when GOD is so loving and won't punish sinners according to what we deserve?
Wasn't GOD loving when HE threw Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden? Wasn't HE loving when HE drowned humanity in the flood? Wasn't he loving when HE rained down fire and brimstone on the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah?
Didn't this loving GOD place the sin of the whole world on HIS own son and watched HIM get killed at the hands of cruel men?
HE only gets "weak" when it comes to us, as wicked as we are.
I'm sorry for bothering you, but I couldn't help listening to your podcast and hearing a pastor make light of hell that way. Hell is real, and it will be as JESUS described it. This particular topic has nothing to do with METAPHORS as he termed it.
There are metaphors in scriptures, like when JESUS called HIS flesh and blood bread and wine. When HE used parables in HIS teachings and so on. GOD is not a man that he should repent. What HE said HE will do, that's what HE will do.
I won't bother you again. Be blessed and have a godly day.
Speculation wrong teaching
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Heresy
You didn’t watch all of it
We have the bible from 2000 years , and we know to read...aaaaaaand a "smart " guy comes and tell us where the sun rises from . Sorry , we had enough about these scholars.
the Bible includes the Essenes taught that God will put an end to sinners and sin forever.
This man is speaking out of he's as.
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These are all human imaginary thinking
You say that because what the west believes as hell. In the west theists and atheists are the two sides of one coins. Both are lost in there delusions!
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