Brake Caliper Restoration / Rebuild GONE WRONG!?!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2021
- Disclaimer: Don't do this. Just buy new ones. I am well aware of the cost savings (or lack thereof) when comparing rebuilding to buying rebuilds. It's almost never worth rebuilding your own. What kind of video would that be, though?
Just another video in the Project Resto XJ series. Much more work and many more videos to come covering this Jeep. I'll probably sprinkle in some other random restoration videos here and there while I'm slowly editing and releasing the Jeep restoration videos, but I'd like to get the thing fully restored and done as soon as possible.
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As for the stupid all caps title: sorry. Seriously, though, everybody makes mistakes. What matters is realizing them and addressing them to the best of your ability. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Guys... It's not RTV. It's CRC Disc Brake Quiet.
Im not sure what world we live in where people dont know what CRC brake quiet looks like.
It bonds the brake pad to the caliper and that changes the total resonate frequency of the assembly. The brake pad is bonded to the caliper with a easy to disassemble glue that requires the brake pad to now vibrate the entire caliber before it squeals, so it wont squeal with braking vibration.
Yes you can use grease. Synthetic, of course, purple, black, orange, rots seals, go on and on, wives tales up the ass, they are applied to do the same job, just stop squeals, and your preference is yours and don't freaking matter to the next guy.
Personally I like brake quiet on the pads as once its set, water, rain, etc cant wash it away. Ever look at the back of old pads? They rust because water got in there, and no amount of grease will keep it out unless you are changing pads every year, and that means you drive like a dick anyway and no one cares what you think.
@@sc5015 It's not a world I want to live in Steve. The woke Libs have banned teaching about CRC products in public schools and all the kids learn about now is anti-seize. Pathetic.
The great thing about jeep brakes is you don't need that shit. But upsell it anyway. Just more of a hassle then it needs to be down the road. Not needed at all.
Install the piston dust boot first then place piston against boot and use your air. Dust boot will surround piston for easy install.
Привет! Из какого материала сделаны новые поршни тормоза?
Growing up on a farm in the snowy, muddy, road-salted north east, I learned to love red grease. I had a rule: there can never be enough red grease. We kept a big can of it around with an actual paint brush. If I unthreaded it, I cleaned and greased it. If I disassembled it, it got cleaned and greased. Eventually, you forget what its like to fight with a stuck bolt. 30 minute disassemblies take 3 minutes. Well worth it.
Thank you for that idea, I'm doing a build on a 1949 dodge pickup that's been daily driven since the day it was bought until about 5 years ago when it began to sit so EVERYTHING is rusty and stuck. When putting it back together I'll have to remember the bucket and brush
@@garrett591 what a great project!! Do NOT give up until its your daily runner! Good luck!
Bro.. Make a youtube channel on restoration.. It would be great..
i even brush my teeth with red grease lol...
I actually like the 'mistake', I watch these videos to prepare mentally to do a project, and a reminder that each action needs patience or it will cost me, is a good thing!
Should have used grease on the caliper slide bolts. That spray on oil will cook off when the calipers start getting hot.
I wondered why but it’s still great craftsmanship
Actually silicone grease.
@@zachariasvan3965word.
silicone grease, oil based grease will degrade the rubber boots.
@@saeedhossain6099 nope it wont.
Nice rebuild, I recommend a bit of anti-sieze compound on the threads of the bleeder screws though. Plus, rebuilding your calipers does ensure it's done right, so don't apologize for rebuilding something especially when the stuff made/rebuilt today is lower quality.
I usually buy new coated ones for two vehicles. Road salt does a number on the calipers, eh? And thanks for reminding me. I gotta add anti-seize on my caliper bleeder screws.
I believe teflon tape may be a better option than anti-seize. If you're going to use grease, use brake grease, because it's safe if it enters the brake system.
As someone who owns three jeep 4.0s (XJ, XJ, TJ) I am so glad the algorithm gods landed your video in my feed the other day. Loving watching all these parts I recognize and have worked on for years getting the love they deserve.
Loved watching this one. When you missed the dust cap seal and re-blasted and re-coated the powder proved you actually care about the quality of your content. Great work!! I feel like I am ready to do the same to my brake calipers!!
Nice job taking the time to re-blast nicely done.
This is a good skill refresher for other calipers that aren't as simple to replace though. Helpful and informative.
Awesome video, no music, no bull.... straight to the point.
Excellent video, thank you so much for keeping your mistakes and the solution!! Far too many youtubers need the "perfect" video and then everyone that watches the video has no idea what mistakes can be made.
I stumbled across your channel the other day, subscribed, and been watching through your restoration of this vehicle. I am really envious of your welding and fabrication skills, those are some top notch TIG welds you have going.
Please be sure to include your mistakes!! Your videos are so clean and without any BS, showing the mistakes will give everyone watching a heads up and hopefully they don't make the same.
Keep them coming! My current favorite videos on TH-cam
OMG the lighting, camera work, editing ... Thank you !
Have you ever caught any mistakes in the repairs while editing the videos? Love what you're doing!
I feel like there should be grease on the sliding pin in the rubbers? Am i wrong with this?
Great vid, super satisfying :D
Correct, silicone grease
Plastic grease
You do awesome work, I love the attention to detail
Very nice job! Thanks to you, i knew there was an extra ring in there... got it out and continuing restore... caliper nr.2 is up
Nice job. I worked for a braking system company for 30 odd years. And was lucky enough to get anything like that done while I was on shift.
THANK YOU! NICELY DONE and you answered my question..I have never seen "that" product before..will investigate
Currently restoring my XJ too and these vids are amazing! Keep em coming!
A little much on the anti-noise grease I'd say. A mere light smear does the job. But nice rebuild project anyway... Thumbs Up!
I've never used that stuff, nor needed it, just put some grease in the pins and under the clips to prevent rust jacking. Never found the anti noise grease as needed.
It looks like silicone but not grease ...
@@sirhenrypatschislewsky5248 You would be wrong on both.
Welp, now I learnt how brakes work, good job! :-)
Pappy use to say; "Boy don't be scared. You'll never learn a damn thing if you're afraid to make a mistake." Thanks Pappy. RIP.
Good job with this btw. You learned a lot here.
So jealous of how well your blast cabinet works. What size compressor do you have? Gravity feed? Glad to see the rest of truck magically restored itself while you were doing the calipers. Such a nice feeling to make something so crusty clean enough to eat off of.
Wow, a lot of arm chair mechanics here! First, great job! I had a caliper I had to replace on a daily driver ASAP. Got one at a typical parts place that was painted grey. Bought a rebuild kit for other side for future use, cause that's they way I am. The "new" grey one locked up 6 months later. Took it apart, and found grey paint over spray in the bore about half way. Must be epoxy paint because the brake fluid did not remove it. But it swelled enough to jam the piston. It did take 120psi on my compressor to remove it, and wow, did it pop when it let go! Removed paint width brass wire brush, used the rebuild kit intended for other side, and fixed. Now, no where near what you did, just a driveway rebuild. But "new" parts suck sometimes.
Rebuilt in my town lifetime warranty 18.00 ea. MICHIGAN
Muy buen video, saludos desde Chile... Se ve tan fácil de hacer,.... Muchas gracias por hacer el video
One of the best videography on TH-cam. Content was fantastic as well. Thank you.
No kidding on the RTV comment, I just about flipped, until you explained it in the comments. Well done and I liked how you corrected your mistake with the ring.
looks great but do recommend torquing the brake line to spec because those copper crush washers can only crush a certain way once. and they like their specific torque, definitely recommend a type of brake grease on the slide pins. but overall looks good!
Another excellent video, well edited and no talking or music to ruin the proper sounds. Thank you again, I watch all your videos. Does anybody know what that fog painting technique is? I've never seen this before, It seems very effective, Jim.
It's powder coating.
@@geraldschrader8511 Thanks Gerald, is this abetter method than hi temp paint? I cant stand rusty looking calipers, Jim
@@aerialrescuesolutions3277 I know that powder coating seems to be popular for calipers but I don't know if it handles high temps better than regular high temp paint. Powder coating is supposed to be tougher than regular paint though.
@@geraldschrader8511 Hi-temp paint requirement is a myth. They don't get that hot.
That was great to watch, I'm glad you decided to leave the mistake in there, we're all humans and we all make mistakes from time to time. Hope you don't mind me adding this but I got a tip that might save yourself out someone else a head ache, when using the compressor to blow out the pistons put a thin piece of wood in between the piston and the caliper, as they can come out at some velocity and someone's the piston shatters/chips. If you're reusing them it's costly and for god's sake keep your fingers out the way of the piston.
What a transformation. Great job.
Всё чисто и опрятно отличная работа 👌🏻👏
направляющие не смазал . штуцера прокачки закрутил тоже на сухую..
я эти косяки заметил.
Я что-то отстал от жизни: зачем колодки на герметик клеить?
@@Oleg13916 наверно чтоб не вибрировали. По легенде вибрация вызывает скрип. Как сделано в иномарках-в суппорт вставляется деталь из нержавейки. Она подпружинивает колодки . они ходят туго и не скрипят.
Amazing as always!
Glad to see you didn’t just paint lip after forgetting remove steel seal ring 👍🏻😉.
I'm not sure how long those wooden pistons will last!
Wood cant rust, its better. 😀
@@thelizardus ⁴4⁴
Teflon 100%
They are made out of phenolic ,,its like a type of plastic ,,,used instead of metal for weight savings/fuel economy
😅
Great work keep it up ❤️🔥
Buying remanufactured calipers is a gamble. Just had one seize the other day, good thing it happened not far from home.
soon your gonna finish restoring this car..im excited to see the outcome.
This was how it used to be done.. Good work
@ 12:32 So does a light smear of Copper Right Grease;... with a temperature range of -40'c to + 1150'c
I like doing this when I powder coat calipers, very satisfying process
Wow editing is very similar to our.Great content bro!Greetings from Germany
Cette vidéo je les vue au moins 5 fois , j'adore ce travaille merci
First video in a long time was seen somebody was doing the job correctly and well skilled with proper equipment better than the rebuilders
Aww thanks ♥️
BEAUTIFUL JOB !!!
I was wondering when you were gonna catch that. When you first took off the dust boot I was wondering why you didn't pry out the ring to begin with.
Cuz am moron
I wouldn't say that, there were some calipers that didn't have a metal ring to hold them in place. The ones I thought were hard to get the dust boot seated were the GM dust boots from the very late 60's through the 80's or so. Had a machinist friend of mine see me having difficulty installing a GM dust boot and he asked if he could borrow a boot and a couple weeks later, he had made a driver for me to install them.
@@RestorationStation ,🤭
When connecting the brake hose line you put the copper crush washer between the hose fitting and hex bolt. It goes between the hose fitting and the caliber body to seal the connection. Of course when you fill the system with fluid and hit the brakes you'll have fluid all over the place until you fix that connection. Read the manual. Also no thread sealer on the bleeder ports, they will leak within a month of driving.
this series on the jeep has given me plenty of ideas for my own project car
good ol bronco :D
You should have used brake lubricant by permatex. Was that goop silicone?
3M silicone paste
Telling somebody what to use... while not knowing what they used. Classic internet.
Good job !
Phenolic piston, I didn't see that for a while !
13:33 why is the pad looking not centered ? I hope is only a visual effect due to camera angle.
Just did this with my quad calipers on my tundra a month ago. Successfully rebuild two out of four. One was rusted too bad and had to be replaced. The other got rebuild and was the final one to be reinstalled. When I went to bleed the brakes the bleeder screw snapped off in the caliper…then the screw extractor snapped off in the bleeder. So that got replaced with a new caliper 😂
great video----im getting ready to rebuild 1947 Lincoln Continental- disc front and rear ---thanks
What is that orange sealant between the piston and the pad? I've never seen this before. Is it for noise?
Fun fact...the Dana 30 calipers CAN be installed bass ackwards....left to right right to left....leaving a nice bubble of air trapped above the bleed screw.......took me three days to figure that one out.....
Exceptional!
Can you do a “tools and techniques” video? I want to see how you have those long shaft wire brushes set up with the hose to keep them together and prevent scratching.
Great job!!👍🏻
I'd have soaked them in citric acid prior to disassembly. Two days in strong, hot citric acid bath gets rid of all the rust, but doesn't penetrate any seals. ;)
Although If I know my cylinders are rotten, I'll disassemble them before soaking in acid bath.
The video is very satisfactory. Please upload it frequently in the future.
Can you share the camera used for shooting?
I'm Korean and I'm using Google Translator
It's a good camera, I would also like to know what camera is being used.
Where do you find the hardware and seals to replace the old equipment ? Doing something similar for my project and am having a hell of a time finding the parts to replace.
If it's a Jeep,you get everything on Amazon. I did and I trust my service more than the remanufactured ones.
I've never seen someone put that stuff (whatever it is) on the backs of the pads. What is it and why is it there? I do brake jobs all the time and can only speculate as to what it is.
Those look just like the rear calipers on my 2005 grand Cherokee
Хорошо получилось,очень технологично.
its been a while, but are there any more jeep videos coming? Ive watched these all about 6x each and Im a big fan of seeing someone put so much effort into bringing a big XJ back
Damn I really appreciate that massive praise. I have 3 or 4 XJ videos 90% recorded and done that will be released in the coming months. I also have 3 non-XJ videos 90% done that I want to release soon as well that will probably come out first. I've been banking a lot of footage and editing that hasn't been released yet
@@RestorationStation awesome! can't wait to see the new vids. I had a lifted 2 door 1988 XJ when I was a kid and I really miss that thing so its great to see someone keeping one alive and making it better than jeep did
Very nice job 👍well done.
What type media do you use in your blast cabinet? And outdoors?
What is the name of that spray you used for lubricating the pins? I thought everyone uses some sort of grease there.
Me: No way he can restore this
Restoration Station: Hold my 🔧
Cool video bro. It's fun messing around with cars. They turned out great
Was just wondering why you installed the slide pins and boots with no grease ?
did you replace the steel rings after removing the old ones, I didn't see them in there.
It is embedded in the new seal.
When you rebuild you own calipers, you know what you end up with. When you buy calipers, you have no idea whether they used crap parts or seals. I rebuild my calipers using OEM rebuild kits so I end up with OEM quality calipers. I've compared rebuild kits from rock-auto to OEM and the OEM kits have much better rubber in the gaskets and seals.
When you buy new, you know you have new.
cool job 👍
Super jest to odrestaurowane pozdrawiam serdecznie 👍👍👍👍👍
I remember rebuilding old dodge calipers with plastic pistons. Man they were crap.
Для полного идеала , на кулаке надо было заварить и отшлифовать выработку под колодками , плюс ещё есть накладки и не надо тогда мазать колодки герметиком , чтобы они не звенели )))
What the oven temp for the powder coat? I did calipers at 250 and it came out mush? Not clean like these.
Did they hold ? Nice work
Este video es exactamente lo que estaba buscando 😮😮😮😮
I can't remember how many Bakelitee pistons I replaced working at a Sears Auto Center while going to college.
I' ve wasted many hours rebuilding calipers with repair sets. Two weeks later they started to jam again.. New set for 100€, 1 hour work and problem was gone once for all.
You rebuilt them shit
@@bradleypease2492 We are talking about Mazda 6 1gen. There is no hope 😁😔
Why is there red silicon? On the pads and calipers. ???
What camera system are you using?
Judging by the brake pads, you don't need that red goop stuff. Plastic piston, pad clips, it will just catch all of the crap.
What kind of paint was that? Never seen it before.
Powder coating, methinks
За пыльник отдельное спасибо!! Думал что после проделанной работы уже не станешь заморачиваться, а нет.. Молодец что не поленился и переделал!!!!! 👍👍👍
I have never seen a brake piston come out that easy.
But it's a bit dangerous to take it out with compressed air (as you might see, how it pops out with force). Rather pressing brakepedal several times, when brake cylinder is out on disc. 🙂
What car is this from?
1997 Jeep Cherokee. More to come soon!
Would like to do mine on my 1999 dodge van 1500 with the 5.2 liter
I’ve never seen pads glued in lol
No grease on the slide pins?
Like my father always said....
*"Why buy new, when you can just restore it for twice as much?"*
Что-то не понял - на 11:11 это что, цилиндр чем--то смазан??? Кроме тормозной жидкости (DOT-4 or DOT-5) - никакой другой смазки быть не должно!
Существует специальная высокотемпературная смазка для цилиндров, например TRW PFG110 для элементов тормозной системы, контактирующих с тормозной жидкостью
Есть смазки. Некоторые поставляют к комплекте.
@@user-do6qr9rm3l TRW-шная смазка белая.
Very good work ❤️❤️
@ 13:16 Is that anti-seize on your gloves? Is that anti-seize on the back of your brake pads?
No
@@RestorationStation Thanks for the reply. Love your work!
The copper washer u tap the bolt that hold the break line called a mash seal it can leak if you don’t seal it properly. Just tighten the bolt don’t usually seal them. Tap bolt then tight good to go.
Muy buen video. Así es como cc tiene que dar el mantenimiento . Muy completo cambio todos los empakes. Los discos nuevos . Balatas nuevas. Mm gusto su video. No cualquier mecánico . Realiza el trabajo completo. Aka en méxico tt cobran por media labor.
The ONLY advantage, a slim one at best, when doing your own you have control over the quality of the components going back in. To do a proper job, you need a cylinder hone and a sandblaster.
LOL. Cylinder hone. No part of that cylinder touches the piston.
@@ShainAndrews No kidding?? Thanks for letting us know.
@@scottsatterthwaite4073 That's why there is a square o-ring inside. That is the only thing it touches.
@@ShainAndrews No shit Sherlock! But that cylinder needs to be clean so you don't introduce contaminants into the brake system or cause the piston to cock inside the cylinder. A brake hone (yeah, that's an actual tool) is the quickest way to get it done.