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  • @SaintZanzibar
    @SaintZanzibar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4846

    Hand it over. That thing, your Dark Souls lore video.

    • @s.e.n3264
      @s.e.n3264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      For my bros new lore video....
      Arrggggghhhhhhh!!!

    • @hondorincon9906
      @hondorincon9906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      Is this the lore? The lore of the dark soul.

    • @onearmedwolf6512
      @onearmedwolf6512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Drunken Muppet love this

    • @joewz9961
      @joewz9961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Dear Vaati, unyielding tongue of DS lore.
      Post, if you would. For that is our curse.

    • @CJKnightmare
      @CJKnightmare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmfao

  • @Casteverus
    @Casteverus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2040

    That’s the hollow knight ost in the background, I’d highly recommend checking that game out if you like the atmosphere of dark souls

    • @blackbroly
      @blackbroly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Is hollow knight really Tht good

    • @tooyaigarashi5054
      @tooyaigarashi5054 5 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      @@blackbroly yes it is

    • @ibrahemettish251
      @ibrahemettish251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      i really want to see vati do a lore video about hollow knight 🙄

    • @hamletmhb5914
      @hamletmhb5914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@ibrahemettish251 , me too! That game is the best "souls like" platformer

    • @splatinum837
      @splatinum837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Masterpiece game! Loved Hollow Knight

  • @Kinoksis
    @Kinoksis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +692

    8:00 After all these years I've never noticed those ghosts were carrying babies.

    • @TB-zj1yy
      @TB-zj1yy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I just noticed that too XD Is it only the ghosts that let out a scream when you approach them?

    • @Kinoksis
      @Kinoksis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@TB-zj1yy Yeah, they're called banshees

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      They must be friends with Oscerios, for they are both among those who carry infants into battle.

    • @Ropewatch
      @Ropewatch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakespacepiratee3740
      Haha XD

    • @PraisetheFluffyTail
      @PraisetheFluffyTail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yeah the female ones....I think they are more closer to the Latino myth of La Llorona since that spirit looks for the childs she drowned, and the DS ones carries their drowned childs...

  • @ScyleOrnitier
    @ScyleOrnitier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    I know the lore is that the Nameless King is Gwyn's son, but have we ever talked about how much they LOOK alike? That close up was crazy.

    • @geovannigonzalezz
      @geovannigonzalezz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Typically someones son looks like them...

    • @ScyleOrnitier
      @ScyleOrnitier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@geovannigonzalezz hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • @geovannigonzalezz
      @geovannigonzalezz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScyleOrnitier that was pretty funny

  • @sem3ndem0n_73
    @sem3ndem0n_73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1096

    Dark Souls: *exists*
    Vaati: *slaps hollowknight music*

  • @tudorcostea1
    @tudorcostea1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3133

    Darkstalker Kaathe DESTROYS Lord Gwyn with FACTS and LOGIC

    • @42Mrgreenman
      @42Mrgreenman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Perfect title, now we just need to shop Matt Dillahunty onto Kaathe and Jordan Peterson onto Gwyn....

    • @Ropewatch
      @Ropewatch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      And thats why I always join the Dark side.

    • @BackwardsPancake
      @BackwardsPancake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      The year is 2019:
      The US government is brought to a standstill by an argument about a really big fence.
      The superbowl halftime show is an edgy rapper led in by spongebob.
      Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight, is revealed to have been the ultimate libtard.
      What a time to be alive.

    • @ashenone3883
      @ashenone3883 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      BackwardsPancake Tis a great time my friend.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ropewatch Keethe isn't really a dark side..

  • @Zayindjejfj
    @Zayindjejfj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +653

    It all ends in ash. I guess you could say that it reverts back to that gray formless world that it all started out as.

    • @Edward-fh1xt
      @Edward-fh1xt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      Here's a fuckin game theory for ya: there has already been at least one worldly cycle (age of ancients to age of fire to age of dark) before dark souls takes place. The age of ancients we know is the result of the world becoming ash, and the dragons we fight are the strongest of the previous cycle that survived to the end (since we already know especially strong people can become dragons)

    • @heliopyre
      @heliopyre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      the world of ash is also the deep sea that Aldrich envisioned

    • @darkraioxxx
      @darkraioxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@heliopyre our world...maybe

    • @aromardu
      @aromardu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Edward-fh1xt Well King's Field had to have happened first thanks to the implication in the Old Moonlight spell and it included a beginning of the world itself in its backstory, which we don't have in Dark Souls (the Age of Ancients isn't the beginning of the world, since it's already formed).

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@aromardu Yeh! I'm surprised that someone else know that! I though for a time that literally everyone ignore that truth for convenience!
      Gewn (with help of that backstabbing asshole Seath) only usurp power from old gods and basically framed them for all evil to justify his rule (most clear Demon Souls where god Sybal is revealed to be in fact The Old One
      , though we fight with his third "dragon god of deep sea" servant, not him personally). Because of that Nameless King to atone his banishment attempt to solve the war and kill dragon god of earth and darkness Valad. It is when he learn that old eldritch abomination was in fact one who hold the Abyss in check and all leaks were result of imbeciles disturbing him, not his vile intend. It is why he decide to join dragons against his father to atone yet again.
      Anyway, after world was swallowed by darkness some powerful lords usurp power of Valad brother, god of sky and fire and create fake sun to push away abyss (with dark souls being power of Valad). Problem is that dragon powers literally eat souls to power they magic so whole cycle is basically a bullshit. The thing is that true way is to end age of fire and elect new Dark Lord so it would pull back abyss yet again (what basically happen in DS3). Is only way to stop age of darkness. Future events of Demon Souls and Bloodborne are always related to someone trying usurp power of dragons again.

  • @xantho8935
    @xantho8935 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1669

    >Game from 2011
    >Still has new lore revealed in 2019
    >Fukin love dis game

    • @GBlockbreaker
      @GBlockbreaker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      i mean, there are other franchises that have similar things happen to them like Neon Genesis Evangelion and uhhhh
      yeah that's all i could think of

    • @griffins.4001
      @griffins.4001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      M just waiting for sekkiro

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      It's not really a merit since it's due to bad translation

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well.. technically it still reveal lore from King's Field from 94.. so?

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@GBlockbreaker And when it did happen? True secret of NGE is that there is no secret, as it was huge troll of Anno, what smart people did notice from the get go. Yes, they did retcon some things here and there, but notching radical did really change. Seriously, you are pretentious hipster now 0_0

  • @andrewbowen2837
    @andrewbowen2837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I appreciate you for making reference to DS2. Its lore is background info and details the struggle of trying to break the cycle with Giants and powerful souls, and the idea of the cycle as a whole. There are some people out there, such as Jake the Ashen Hollow, who absolutely refuse to acknowledge DS2 and its lore out of spite and not for some logical reason. That's why you're the best at what you do, you tell it how it is or how it can be interpreted with little to no personal bias going into it

    • @pipelinethug
      @pipelinethug 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’re 100% right and I think DS2 haters simply refuse to acknowledge how the lore of the game assists us in understanding the canon of the curse. It’s a shame and at this point is such a joke. Their loss, Aldrich is one the best characters in the series and Vendrick was a predecessor to the Lothric princes.

  • @joedredd1168
    @joedredd1168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I love that there's Tolkien's Elvish in these games.

  • @trolltoll2825
    @trolltoll2825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    Oh neat, Hollow Knight music! Two of my favorite games together in one video. Thanks Vaati!

    • @PrettyGirlSnuffFilm
      @PrettyGirlSnuffFilm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Troll Toll about to comment the same thing! Brilliant games!

    • @aussieaveragegamer
      @aussieaveragegamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Was going to add this too! Flashbacks to dirtmouth

    • @theecstaticgamer157
      @theecstaticgamer157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I wish Vaati did HK videos too. Would love to hear him talk about it. Or at least a prepare to cry, since most of the story of that game makes me wanna cry ._.

    • @ricardorocha5420
      @ricardorocha5420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Maybe a foreshadowing of new videos?

    • @simonevogel7990
      @simonevogel7990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd love to see Vaati dive deep into Hollow Knight for a special Prepare to Cry!

  • @theyggdrasiltree4567
    @theyggdrasiltree4567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    Just as a heads up, another parallel with Norse mythology is present. Ragnarok, the end of the world, is about the CURRENT world ending for a new one to be born. The gods selfishly guarded against the inevitable end and rebirth, or the path of the world, and tried to prevent it.

    • @GreatKingIso
      @GreatKingIso 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      dark souls had significant lost potential by not including the giant wolf trying to eat the sun tbh

    • @Terminalsanity
      @Terminalsanity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Come to think of it doesn't Odin collect the greatest of Warriors to perpetually, battle, die and rise in Valhalla so that they can be used s fodder to try and hold off Ragnarok?

    • @123mickymouse123
      @123mickymouse123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baldur and his brother are bae though.

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Aesir all know their place in Ragnarok. Some of the tales, such as Balder's story seem to have pushed it back, but it is up to interpretation if it was intended to. No matter anyway cause he did die and only await the aftermath of Ragnarok.

    • @egemenozcelik7494
      @egemenozcelik7494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GreatKingIso wouldnt that be copying too much tho

  • @neverkanever
    @neverkanever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    VaatiVidya is always a relaxing way to end the night. Love ya man!

  • @sway_9803
    @sway_9803 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1051

    The lore in this game is borderline biblical like a holy scripture

    • @theblancmange1265
      @theblancmange1265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      It is heavily inspired by western indo-european mythology.

    • @nervastudios2616
      @nervastudios2616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@theblancmange1265 In other words, nothing.

    • @Tryagaindogg
      @Tryagaindogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Dark Souls Bible: The Book of Oscar

    • @manosassassin
      @manosassassin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is.

    • @victorbitencourt9481
      @victorbitencourt9481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@theblancmange1265 i still think the heart of it is fundamentally eastern mythology. the cycles, immortality of the soul, concept of self... it only looks medieval european from a distance.

  • @illydilly8140
    @illydilly8140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I always thought the Kath and King seeker were the head and the tail of the same body, a never ending serpent. It didn't matter which side you chose, they can only pull so far in one direction or another. It doesn't matter which choice you choose.

    • @Namenlos34
      @Namenlos34 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      daaamn that's actually so cool

  • @ChicagoMadePunk09
    @ChicagoMadePunk09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    >about to go to bed
    >Vaati uploads
    Bliss

    • @SamySamos
      @SamySamos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ChicagoMadePunk09 > just woke up from bed
      > supposed to study for a test
      > watches vaati’s video instead

    • @wazirtahfiz3087
      @wazirtahfiz3087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sleeps is for weak

    • @WingZX1103
      @WingZX1103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wazir Tahfiz do the hollow/ashen ones need sleep.

    • @SamySamos
      @SamySamos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wing ZX1103 our duty is primordial

    • @LCST237
      @LCST237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sleep thight my dude

  • @KingMemeMachine
    @KingMemeMachine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Dark Souls is so fucking beautiful it hurts. So happy I'm a long time fan.

    • @Chris-oh9mz
      @Chris-oh9mz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Your Best Friend! I’m a new fan and I’m so happy I decided to get this amazing game and it honestly has my tearing up when I killed gael knowing that would be the last new boss I’d fight for a long time

    • @KingMemeMachine
      @KingMemeMachine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Chris-oh9mz Welcome to the fandom! Nice to have you. I highly reccomend if you haven't doing all the dlc for 1 and 2.

    • @osculas_0141
      @osculas_0141 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me last year: Be awesome if they remastered by favorite game
      Literally a week later: We have a trailer for you

    • @Ape8658
      @Ape8658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will still come back to ds1 after 10 years

    • @PaladinfffLeeroy
      @PaladinfffLeeroy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chris-oh9mz Gael was all the more impactful because he holds the entirety of the Dark Souls (or as much of it as was humanly possible to obtain) except for the final fragment which the player holds. Defeating him and claiming the Dark Soul for the Painter to paint a picture with is the way the world will start anew.

  • @LautrecOfCarim
    @LautrecOfCarim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +879

    This humble servant of Fina would never abuse the gifts he was granted to simply robb others of their humanity...
    But if that is what Fina wants me to do, who am I to complain?
    Heh.

    • @blakeritchie9088
      @blakeritchie9088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      **kicks you off of firelink cliff**

    • @s.e.n3264
      @s.e.n3264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Prepare to be kicked

    • @mythshark409
      @mythshark409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@s.e.n3264 dark souls prepare to kicked edition

    • @starpyro101
      @starpyro101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Heh

    • @balasuar
      @balasuar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gibbor me your ring

  • @TSGAris
    @TSGAris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Love the introduction to Hollownest music. It is perfect for the Abyss episode, since the void is basically a more stable abyss.

  • @subhanmahmood6580
    @subhanmahmood6580 5 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    I wouldn't mind if you made Hollow Knight lore videos, Vaati

    • @ArmenManukyan
      @ArmenManukyan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      With DS soundtrack in the background 👌

    • @sergeysmyshlyaev9716
      @sergeysmyshlyaev9716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Check out Mossbag channel

    • @felipecosta-kv2fx
      @felipecosta-kv2fx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      "In the begining, There was nothing, Only light and bugs without mind to think, Voice to cry or soul to manipulate"

    • @dillansantiago707
      @dillansantiago707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Vaati vs mossbag, lets go. 😂

    • @ultimatepronoob7320
      @ultimatepronoob7320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ADINO

  • @CowboyQQ
    @CowboyQQ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    1:03
    False
    Oroboros is a symbol of infinite R1's, DMB Falchion, tryhardness, Tears of Denial and gank-spanking

  • @junnnkie7563
    @junnnkie7563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Hollow Knight's soundtrack goes so good with his speaking on the background, it's just so peaceful and relaxing

    • @maximianocoelho4496
      @maximianocoelho4496 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not the Nosk sound. That thing is a Heart Killer...

  • @thedragonknight3600
    @thedragonknight3600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love that you’re using the Hollow Knight music in the background. It’s so beautiful and fits your style really well.

  • @darinae34
    @darinae34 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1378

    "kicks down door"
    *IS THAT HOLLOW KNIGHT MUSIC*
    ONE THOUSAND LIKES LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @jarecki2129
      @jarecki2129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yaaaasssss

    • @ZRob23523
      @ZRob23523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
      (Quietly realizes how alike but different dark souls and hollow knight are)

    • @mythicdawnist
      @mythicdawnist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      THE SECOND I HEARD IT I WAS LIKE "YOOOOOO"

    • @ultimatepronoob7320
      @ultimatepronoob7320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      SHAW

    • @prachetasnayse9709
      @prachetasnayse9709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep. It's all coming full circle now xD

  • @Nazo-kage
    @Nazo-kage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    There’s one particular thing I noticed that seem to be a recurring motif in dark souls 3
    A kind of branches and tree like attributes that seem to show up in a lot of bosses and creatures in the game. I’m just curious is if there is some sort of explanation that I am missing.
    You have the weird trees growing out of people in the first areas of the game after acquiring fast travel. You have the pontiff who after half his health goes down sprouts tree limb like wings, and there’s also those angel like creatures in both lothric castle and Dreg Heap (I am not referring to the angel knights) and I’m wondering if it has anything to do with some sort of residual of the chaos bed. It after all was a giant tree, I am also curious if there is some sort of connection between that fire and the one found at the profaned capital, which might make sense if there is since the pontiff have some sort of connection with it as well.

    • @XERX_740
      @XERX_740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Some dude banged a tree woman and thats how Sulyvahn was made

    • @PoetsAges
      @PoetsAges 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@XERX_740 Sulyvahn came from the Painted World. His mom was one of those tree chicks and he hides his wings from his buddy Aldrich because he was made fun of as a kid by the wolf puppies. They picked on him because his dad wasn't cool enough to join the millwood dudes. That's why he has self-esteem issues now and why he left the painted world. He wanted a fresh start, but he wasn't allowed to be in charge in Irithyll because he wasn't from there and they thought he was hiding something.
      Sulyvahn realized they were going to find out about his tree wings so he called up his old friend Aldrich, whom he met at some point after leaving the painting, and said something like "Bruh, there's this weird god dude/chick hybrid that is like, super nutritional. You should totally eat him. I'll spike his drink, you do your slime thing, and I'll be in charge here." Aldrich was like, "Aight" because he's a bro, and that's how Gwyndolin got ate.

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      In the beginning, there were only stone giants and great archtrees. As the world ends, mankind seeks to deify what remains of dragons, and the roots of ancient trees spread like a cancer in the undying. The last demon prince hides in the ruins of the great hollow tree.

    • @alansmith6310
      @alansmith6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PoetsAges written like Shakespeare

    • @mook8799
      @mook8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I highly doubt that the profaned flame is like chaos because the profaned flame is arguably way worse than the flame of chaos because whereas the chaos flame brought about the creation of izalith and an entire race of living beings and even made the existing beings more powerful the profaned flame did the opposite it corrupted anyone who contacted it, it destroyed the profaned capital and it indirectly destroyed yhorm and his legacy not to mention both flames looks quite different

  • @argus8328
    @argus8328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Hollow Knight music in a Dark Souls vid. A true masterpiece.

  • @saintriot
    @saintriot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    1:07 ...Falchion R1s

    • @blakeritchie9088
      @blakeritchie9088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But it's ok, It's vaati

    • @Shourockow
      @Shourockow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      saint_riot I was thinking exactly that!

    • @sauro8299
      @sauro8299 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      not enough verticality here

    • @kotorandcorvid4968
      @kotorandcorvid4968 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where?

    • @Grambee
      @Grambee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the snek is backstapping itself

  • @DelayAndMentlegen
    @DelayAndMentlegen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Im like "wat tf Hollow knight OST doing here"
    Then I remember that we're actually hollows

  • @Vajrapani108
    @Vajrapani108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    To the western audience maybe jorgmander is THE world serpent, but in the east, it's not the case. The Eastern world serpent is adi shesha, or ananta shesha(infinite snake), an important figure in both Hinduism an Buddhism. In Hinduism He represents time, and encircles the world and is responsible for the the start of the next cycle. Way more fitting then jorg. And this wouldn't be the first Hinduism inspired lore, manus is derived from mānu(the proganitor of mankind in Hinduism). The Ralf Griffith translation of veda added the s to manu, hence making his name 'manus'. Also adi shesha has multiple heads, that makes you think weather framt and kaath are different beings or not, maybe they are one entity with a very different goal from what we understand

    • @dbgoat4436
      @dbgoat4436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Honestly I dont THINK I've ever smiled while reading that that's fucking awesome I love how all myths HAVE diffrent gods bit same animals as gods

    • @jiqian
      @jiqian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would this make "the world's logic" equivalent to Vishnu in relation to Kaathe then? I wonder if perhaps the name was changed in the west in order to make it more clear it could actually be referring to Ananta, to those who might be acquainted.

  • @lostfan10000
    @lostfan10000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always find it strange that Kaathe's priority in the first game is to let the fire die on its own while a Dark Lord rules humanity, while in the third game his goal is to usurp the fire for the Dark Lord. He never seems to want someone to actually put the fire out. Or maybe he believes a Dark Lord using the flame would accelerate its death? Idk.

  • @shademonki13
    @shademonki13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Huh. I never realized Anor Londo was named in Sindarin.

    • @jatisoem7472
      @jatisoem7472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @WGIYV anor/anar (sindarin/quenya) means sun, and I think londo comes from lond, like Harlond port in western shire

    • @shademonki13
      @shademonki13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @WGIYV Yeah. It makes sense now, knowing what I do about the language, I just never thought to make the connection.

    • @MadAtreides1
      @MadAtreides1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Assuming the intended meaning is "land of the sun", I believe a more correct name would have been Anordor/Anodor, Anardor/Anador or even Andor or Anor

    • @michaelhenry3234
      @michaelhenry3234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My question is why Dark Souls used Sindarin lol. I'm not against it at all, but it seems so random, especially for a Japanese studio.

    • @michaelhenry3234
      @michaelhenry3234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joshuacreeger9171 Really? That made me grin from ear to ear. Just makes me happy.

  • @FappleJackity
    @FappleJackity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    THESE TRANSLATIONS REVEAL SO MUCH, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THIS AMAZING VIDEO SERIES ABOUT THIS AMAZING GAME

  • @Seraltonyus
    @Seraltonyus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I always found a lot of interesting connections between Dark Souls and mythologies.
    Let's take the "Der Ring des Nibelungen" from Wagner. In that opera cycle Wotan (Odin) disrupts the order of the world by taking to himself the reingold, forged into a ring, a force of nature that should belong in the Reno river. With that force he reinvigorate the fleeting age of the gods and even use it to give light to his holy city, Valhalla. The ancient diety Erda, a diety that doesn't meddle with the other gods, tell him to shun the ring, but he didn't listen. Some time later this bring to the end of the age of gods forever (Götterdämmerung) by the actions of Siegfried (half human) and Brünnhilde (daughter of Erda).
    Also in the Shinto folklore, Susanoo-no-Mikoto is the god of storms (Nameless king), brother to the goddess of the Sun Amateratsu (Gwyneviere?) and Tsukuyomi god of the moon (Gwyndolin).

  • @miloetripnoend3053
    @miloetripnoend3053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These cooperations are really nice to see. After discovering the others and coming then to this new video-collab is so rewarding as I can spot different elements of style coming from each you. It's amazing, keep it up!

  • @ContextDependent
    @ContextDependent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "In the end, the world's logic doesn't go from light to dark, it simply burns out and ash inherites the world [...]"

  • @ArmouredProductions
    @ArmouredProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Yus, some Aldia. I was just playing some Scholar of the First Sin today, and Aldia has got to be my favorite character from Dark Souls 2.

    • @cocacampbell4396
      @cocacampbell4396 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! Creighton personally

    • @ArmouredProductions
      @ArmouredProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cocacampbell4396
      Creighton would be my second favorite.

    • @the3diamonds472
      @the3diamonds472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DS2 > DS1 don't @ me.

    • @ArmouredProductions
      @ArmouredProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@the3diamonds472
      I actually agree. 2 is my favorite of the trilogy.

    • @blobbything2986
      @blobbything2986 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favourite character in the series. Yuria (ds3) and Creighton follow

  • @SkitariusNoKD
    @SkitariusNoKD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A video about the abyss with hollow knight songs, I see what you did there, great video man.

  • @forger343
    @forger343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I'm always ready for a new Vaati Vidya!

  • @dhillonmanick4241
    @dhillonmanick4241 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This could be a shot in the dark, when you said ‘ash would inherit the world’ got me thinking. What if this ash world is what the beginning of the world of the everlasting dragons look like

  • @HMMA0308
    @HMMA0308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I can smell Hollow Knight all over this video

    • @felipecosta-kv2fx
      @felipecosta-kv2fx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vaati would make animations and put them in the vídeo

    • @francobocanegraarismendi2253
      @francobocanegraarismendi2253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The soundtrack i was like 😑

    • @kscanfly
      @kscanfly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2 masterpieces combined together.Hollow knight and dark souls....

    • @desty4030
      @desty4030 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kscanfly damn is it really that good? I couldn't get into it, it just felt so... I'm not sure how to put it. It felt like a game for kids or depressed people if that makes sense?

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@desty4030 Everything about Hollow Knight is just great to me. Maybe watching someone playing it for a while would make a difference. Like Millbee.

  • @BigBossDP
    @BigBossDP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Dark souls 2 tells us that Light and Dark are actually the same. Different perspectives of the same flame. In that sense the serpents are actually the same as well. Whether it is Gwyn on the helm or some human, nothing really changes. I think that is reflected in how the serpents represent the two edges of "whole" World Serpent.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, basically..

    • @mantisr818
      @mantisr818 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Choices in 1 are the same, but Light and Dark aren't. First Sin disrupted nature and Undead Curse forces Flame to be rekindled over and over agein. Age of Fire doesn't just go away on it's own, you need to defeat the Curse to let the Dark come. Bearer of the Curse escaped the cycle thanks to the crowns, but the world at larg was still stuck in it.

    • @zipzap872
      @zipzap872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Kathe is just the other end of frampt. They don't have butts it's just a different serpent on the end

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zipzap872 I heard that theory and in fact consider it as quite cool.. or it was confirmed?

    • @the3diamonds472
      @the3diamonds472 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      DS2 > DS1 don't @ me.

  • @FirstLast-cg2nk
    @FirstLast-cg2nk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    In a lot of ways, this interpretation of the lore reminds me of how Odin is portrayed in God Of War: Odin knows Ragnarok is coming, and by all rights, it should be unstoppable. He should accept it, not fight it. Yet Odin will perform any action, no matter how vicious, cruel, or heartless, to either prevent it or to have some measure of control over its outcome.
    Spoiler below...
    Even place a curse on the Valkyries so that all the Nine Realms, including Jotunheim, home of the giants, are flooded with the undead. He overturns the world's logic, and makes life a hell on Earth for all beings, in the hope of preventing or at least delaying the end of Asgard.

    • @skyzgone2953
      @skyzgone2953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Isn’t jotunheim the home of the giants?
      Doesn’t make your point less true tho

    • @omega1231
      @omega1231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@skyzgone2953 That's a problem with the English terminology calling most things "giants" both Muspelheim and Jotunheim are home to Jætter, which can be anything from below human size to mountain size.

    • @omega1231
      @omega1231 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say there are more similarities to Norse mythology than God of War, f.ex. Odin doesn't fight ragnarok, Odin fighting is part of ragnarok, like how Gwyn fighting the vaining light became part of the cycle instead of stopping it and that it was Gwyn reigniting the flame that destroyed the world, just like how the world shattering nature of ragnarok comes from the war of the gods and not because ragnarok is the end of our world. Ragnarok is the fate of the rulers/kings/gods (quite literally in fact) which is also something that can be compared to the lore of Dark souls, in which the entire cycle is much more a matter of changing the upper echelon and average mortals suffering because of it, than it just being a naturally occuring planetary cycle or something, where everyone loses.

    • @MonkAndra
      @MonkAndra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@omega1231 Odin did try to stop Ragnarok in Norse mythology, it's just that the things he did, like binding Fenrir, seem to lead to it rather than stop it. It was inevitable and he would have to fight in it eventually but it is true that he tried to defy it.

    • @omega1231
      @omega1231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MonkAndra Odin didn't defy ragnarok, ragnarok was the result of him defying the natural order (or atleast the natural order as Hel sees it) as it comes about because Odin retrieves Balder from Helheim, making Hel go on the war path. That's also why Odin has been gathering an army specifically for the purpose of fighting Hel ever since Balder ended up in Helheim after Høder shot him, and the rest is prophecy.
      My point is that Ragnarok is just something that happens as a consequence of the gods duking it out, not something anyone is fighting against because they all know it's inevitable, it's their fate, quite literally.

  • @TheHughgee
    @TheHughgee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    That excellent Jormangundr pronunciation tho

    • @rml4474
      @rml4474 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, there's always different ways to pronounce and see things, however, the most important thing when communicating, whether verbally, with signs, telepathically or in any other way, is that We understand each other and that, often times is the main reason we communicate, self-expression. Just My current view but yeah.

    • @HenhousetheRed
      @HenhousetheRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My loins twitched when I heard.

    • @TheHughgee
      @TheHughgee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not going to lie, I have no idea if the pronunciation is accurate or not, its just really pleasant to listen to + vaati's already great voice.
      Its excellent listening

    • @Slvrwlf
      @Slvrwlf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But... the name is Jörmungandr. Not Jormangundr o.o
      But yes, the pronunciation was very good.

    • @TheGuitarifier
      @TheGuitarifier 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jan Jappie not really lmfao. Things can be passed down into the realm of accessible knowledge buddy.

  • @Shadowdragon_TV
    @Shadowdragon_TV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After playing the Remastered for the first time, I started seeing it as the primordial serpents were pretty much the wisest of all who guided those within power. However, Gywn being the first known to defy the natural logic of the world, Frampt remained loyal to the one who ruled all while Kaathe retained his realistic reasoning that even a god shouldn't defy the natural order.
    Damn.. This story is amazing..

  • @KoiosDusklight
    @KoiosDusklight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The concept of the "Logic of the World" that you reference reminds me a lot of the Stoic usage of the terms Logos, the animating reason and logic that makes up the laws of the universe.

  • @spaghettilastname3095
    @spaghettilastname3095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    doo hollow knight you cant just put in the music and not tell the lore

    • @zegreatpumpkinani9161
      @zegreatpumpkinani9161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Mossbag already has that covered, leave him his market!

    • @spaghettilastname3095
      @spaghettilastname3095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@zegreatpumpkinani9161 i know i also watch him but i would love it if more people could be exposed to it and vaatividya does a relly good job at explaining lore and showing how amazing it is

    • @anhtruongminh2968
      @anhtruongminh2968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@zegreatpumpkinani9161 i want every game lore ever to be read by Vaati voice

    • @BronzeDragon0009
      @BronzeDragon0009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@anhtruongminh2968 agreed.

    • @MegaKirbySuperstar
      @MegaKirbySuperstar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zegreatpumpkinani9161 mossbag has a terrible sense of humor and lacks the great voice. I'd still love to see new Hollow Knight lore done proper and worthy of the game.

  • @Grylken1569
    @Grylken1569 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This was so nice to listen to with the Hollow Knight soundtrack in the background 😁

  • @thaddeusmccaustland8023
    @thaddeusmccaustland8023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    1:29 *When you feel like you're in Dirtmouth again*

  • @momparty
    @momparty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "I won't have time ... in the upcoming months, I'm sure some of you know why"
    Someone wanna explain this cryptic spot o' lore?

    • @oipicx
      @oipicx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He fulfilled his biological imperative ;)

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@oipicx HUH?! O_O Vaati is gonna have a baby?! O:

  • @relinquish4572
    @relinquish4572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could honestly watch your videos 24/7. Your doing an amazing job

  • @woutervangils6673
    @woutervangils6673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Ain't that song from hollowknight? Btw Vaaty, you could jump into their lore, why not, bet you would love it and Maybe even put some people towards a great game!

  • @aliasv6964
    @aliasv6964 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was thinking the ash end would lead to another coming of dragons perhaps. Reset to the start from the ashes the world born anew to be completed correctly once again.

  • @TheFinalNumberIs4
    @TheFinalNumberIs4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    When are you gonna do some Hollow Knight lore vids

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh.. game is great but it doesn't have deep lore.. Owlboy on the other hand.. shit! That thing is amazing!

    • @jahrfuhlnehm
      @jahrfuhlnehm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Check out mossbag if you want to go in deep on HK lore. His tone is much jokier than Vaati's if you don't mind that, I think he does a good job at balancing lore analysis and somewhat classic Otzdarva-type humor.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jahrfuhlnehm I know HK lore, just I'm not a hipster like you 0_0

    • @DarkLord3709
      @DarkLord3709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would love to see him tackle it someday. There's alot to talk about from what i've found so far and with the inclusion of Hornets dlc alot more will be added.

    • @TB-zj1yy
      @TB-zj1yy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheRezro uh, what? Hollow Knight does indeed have deep lore. Are you just basing this off of playing through it and thinking there wasn't much lore because that is very similar to how Dark Souls is. You play through it and get the simple idea of some things that are going on and that's it. However, if you take the time to find out more, you realize how much shit you didn't know and how deep the lore goes. This is the same for Hollow Knight.

  • @bruinwinters7085
    @bruinwinters7085 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hollow Knight theme playing solemnly in the background was a lovely touch.

  • @aironkazz2590
    @aironkazz2590 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The amount of lore these games have... I am so happy to have become a part of this community and explore the soulsborne series to the fullest... It's an amazing series and you have done an amazing job on explaining how more of the convoluted lore is connected with everything... Thank you for always making these videos.

  • @GingerBreadJap
    @GingerBreadJap 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like the hollowknight music in the background. Tasteful

  • @serd7147
    @serd7147 5 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Is that Hollow Knight music I hear!?

    • @JtMpS
      @JtMpS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, it is even mentioned in the video description...

    • @zaid_alhelu
      @zaid_alhelu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yeah, yeah

    • @avy6153
      @avy6153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah

    • @JtMpS
      @JtMpS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah?

    • @grinckerthesoul1510
      @grinckerthesoul1510 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      is the last song from hollow knight?

  • @sparrow8935
    @sparrow8935 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really wish from software would explore areas that are underwater in future games
    Imagine a dark souls enviorment with wrecked ships or giant underwater caves or and endless abyss desending in to the true bottom of the sea which would actually be a backwards world in a way
    Imagine playing trough the game and all of a sudden you realize all this time you've been upside down
    And then you ascend to the merky dead soil of a world wrecked by missfortune,betrayel, and misery
    A failed world of pirates corrupted by their own lust and greed
    That'd be kinda neat :0

    • @AlmightyXI
      @AlmightyXI 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ocarina of Time's water temple Dark Souls edition is where my mind went to with this. Sounds more brutal than the Ornstein Smough fight.

    • @chimblemasterofchimney4771
      @chimblemasterofchimney4771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Underwater Souls would be terrifying...

    • @Zorenomaru
      @Zorenomaru 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aldrich most likely visioned the same scene we witness in cutscene after Filianore sends us forward in time. Those ash dunes look like a sea at first glance.

    • @the3diamonds472
      @the3diamonds472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So No mans wharf but no insta death? Im up.

  • @joshwombacker7207
    @joshwombacker7207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been subbed for about 2 years now and have to say, you are the main reason why im in love with the souls series. Every video is so captivating and the stories are so well told. Keep up the good work! Cant wait to see what Sekiro has in store!

  • @rand0m508
    @rand0m508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, imagining the world serpents as these big powerful entities that really try to understand the world instead of just manipulating it makes them fit way better into the grand sceme of things in my mind. I guess that's the weakness of souls lore, some things feel a bit incoherent until you find out enough about them. Thanks for your efforts!

  • @typhus7437
    @typhus7437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I can think of some things to make some videos;
    - ghru
    - lothric
    - sens fortress
    - Aldrich and his deacons
    - seath

    • @the3diamonds472
      @the3diamonds472 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lothric is pretty vague for an entire video

  • @Valsorayu
    @Valsorayu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So from what I have gathered: (Just a thing I thought I'd do)
    It is the nature of the world to end in darkness as light needs energy and no source will last forever. Those born to light will fear the darkness as they do not understand it. They do not understand the darkness for the darkness is humanity; an undefinable thing.
    Therefore the children of light (Gwyn and the gods) extended the light which was only good for them by burning themselves and only leaving humanity, the darkness, behind to itself work as kindling. In the end they burn the world's future away to ash.
    As such Change will always happen for, that is progression in time, those who resist time will burn away their future through futile determination.
    Dark Souls requires determination to finish the game and light the fire to perpetuate destruction or to let it fade and through sacrificing your future and stability making the world progress and grow.
    (further simplification) We fear change but we are at heart it's engine.

  • @vejymonsta3006
    @vejymonsta3006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's 2019 and there's still more lore in this game to share...

  • @Ape8658
    @Ape8658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who knew a fictional video game series had more complicated lore than real life. Great video anyways. I’ve been playing the soulsborne series for years now, but still come back to it.

  • @datacruncher5000
    @datacruncher5000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else notice that this video is full of Hollow Knight music? This pleases me nearly as much as the translations themselves, thanks Vati!

  • @TrueDarkSparda
    @TrueDarkSparda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Kaathe instigating the age of fire: "You know what you guys need? To wage a war against the Everlasting Dragons."

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kaathe instigating the Chaos of Izalith: You know what you need? To remake the first flame with your own soul.

    • @jacksonbuchberg9664
      @jacksonbuchberg9664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kaathe instigating the age of Dark: "You know what you guys need? To usurp Gwyn's age of fire"

  • @Epicmonk117
    @Epicmonk117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    0:50 Goddamn Orochis breaking into our Souls games, top-lighting our fridges, zoning our vases, and guardbreaking our mothers...

  • @Zizwizwee
    @Zizwizwee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *ends the video talking about Thor and Jörmungandr* I would like to thank Loki

  • @100Peterll
    @100Peterll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always amazing video, can't wait for the Siegmeyer, Nito and Gwyn Prepare to Cry videos

  • @kayjay2094
    @kayjay2094 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vaati, you're by far the best. Can't believe I'm still learning new things about this game after playing since DS initial release.

  • @ladyofrillwater
    @ladyofrillwater 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Something weirdly satisfying hearing you say "Jormungandr", gotta admit.

    • @heilmodrhinnheimski
      @heilmodrhinnheimski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably because his pronunciation was absolutely perfect.

  • @sandomalkavian9320
    @sandomalkavian9320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I feel like Gwyn is often misunderstood about his Age of Fire. People say he was selfish. Yet ¿what would be of the world, should it sucumb to the Dark? Sure, it would mean the end of all life as it is known. So as it was with the Age of Ancients. But can you truly judge a king for doing all in his power to protect and sustain his kingdom? The people and all those who live in it? In the end, it is just delaying the inevitable, but would you just step aside as you see the whole world go dark? If you are the king, god, founder of the Age of Light and Fire ¿would you just let it all be consumed? It was his personal responsability, and his last act of altruism was consuming himself in order to kindle the fire. Gwyn was the Age of Fire, and he did all in his position to protect it and ensure the world would not be engolfed in shade.
    In such a world as of DS, we should ask ¿who were its inhabitants, its founders, and who were the intruders or underdogs? Man is born from the dark soul, inherently contrary to the souls of lords of the age of fire. They and their people built the world. They were gods in their own right. The dark nature of man himself was its demise. So ya, as I see it, Gwyn did nothing wrong. Of course, we as humans would probably benefit from an age of dark (¿probably?).

    • @Ali_Al_Saachez
      @Ali_Al_Saachez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True but as humans to look at it through the eyes of the cursed humans in the dark souls series it would be like throwing all of our will away to beings who proclaim themselves a higher power than us. Mankind in dark souls were condemned and enslaved due to their natural born affinity to the abyss. Something the self proclaimed "Gods" of lordran more than anything feared. Gwyn was right to fear the dark soul but the world itself became shackled and scarred due to his failure of understanding the dark for what it truly was. This even now mirrors into our own world were it seems as though one side of the world wants to move forward and forge a new fate for its self and the other side wants to cling to the ways of the old and do what has been deemed as natural order through the past and history.

    • @felipecosta-kv2fx
      @felipecosta-kv2fx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like to think that, When gwyn joined the soul of cinder, It was the only time that he battled to not see the world go dark, Not for power, Not for that "humans are going to be powerful" bullshit, Only a man that don't wanna see the world go dark

    • @henrytims4745
      @henrytims4745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Your point only holds if we ignore ds2 and ds3, which both showed him using and betraying his comrades in order to prolong his rule. Removing man from history after the fight with dragons, banishing an entire race of creatures to the end of the world and placing a dragon to guard over them. Intentionally creating the undead curse and convincing mankind to offer up their humanities to prolong his fire and weaken themselves to the point that no man could be strong enough to become the dark lord to oppose him.

    • @Mestrinox
      @Mestrinox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The thing is that you are taking dark as the meaning of everything going in a terrible or malignous way. Dark in this game i think that just refers to the dark soul, thus meaning that the age of dark is simply meaning the age of the creatures which come from this dark soul. I am not saying that your theory is wrong, since on dark souls all is convoluted as Solaire states. Also you can se to further sustain my point prosperous human/dark kingdoms, Carim Catarina and Astora.

    • @gabrielvinicius2409
      @gabrielvinicius2409 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mestrinox Thing is, the race relationship is hard to explain. I mean, what the fuck was Gwyn before finding the lord soul? Just a tall and strong man?

  • @markdieter8669
    @markdieter8669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bet Frampt and Kaathe are connected like Catdog

    • @therealhershalwalker
      @therealhershalwalker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe In the dark ending in ds3 there’s serpents on either side so they may be all snake snake

  • @Sennin265
    @Sennin265 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having chills again, wonderful job Vaati

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio4650 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vaatividya's voice soothes my nerves as I recover from surgery. A fan of the work.

  • @gavinmillard2924
    @gavinmillard2924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is so beautiful. Thank you Vaati and Loki
    👁👄👁👍

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your emoji combination...is horrific D:

    • @Argonak1
      @Argonak1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cover thy face child, Doth thou seek thine rod?!

  • @Cobalt360Degrees
    @Cobalt360Degrees 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Hollow Knight music?!?! D8
    I swear to god Vaati, if you've played Hollow Knight and think you can just slip by without making videos on it...!

    • @felipecosta-kv2fx
      @felipecosta-kv2fx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can imagine the dark souls in a summary parodies in this game!
      "Hey ogrim, How is isma doing?"
      "Still hot..."

  • @moistslippers9726
    @moistslippers9726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So glad you’re still doing lore Vaati. Despite Dark Souls’ age, it still manages to draw so many people back into this world that you’ve expanded on, If only for 20 minutes.
    :)

  • @erugi2357
    @erugi2357 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I so much missed your videos. And the voice and everything. Getting ready to enter DS1 for the second time. And also I have an agreement with my friend, that I'm gonna help him get started and familiarize him with the start into the DS world...Yes, I know that it should be a journey of solitude. Yet I just want to get him past the point "I die in five minutes" and "Broken controls". Wish me luck :)

  • @kransinthompson4169
    @kransinthompson4169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    VattiVida we absolutely need a lore video for hollow knight :)
    You do lore videos so well and the hollow knight lore is pretty hard to piece together.

  • @Crimson_Sun2486
    @Crimson_Sun2486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Before seeing this, I always felt that the Dark ending of Dark Souls 1 was the most logical ending, since the fading of the fire was meant to be part of the course of nature.
    Now that I've watched this video, having learned that Kaathe might not have even meant to corrupt Oolacile and New Londo, but just wanted to learn about the world, I'm starting to think that the Dark ending could actually be the "good" ending, in a sense.
    Of course, I use the term "good" pretty loosely. This is _Dark Souls_ we're talking about. But at least the Dark ending seems to have more going for it now.

  • @thelaughingrouge
    @thelaughingrouge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "They are saught after for their knowledge and understanding of the universe."
    Too bad they're HUGE liars.

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "He found the Dark Soul." Roll credits.

    • @flappynautintheocean8824
      @flappynautintheocean8824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was always in me 🧐

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flappynautintheocean8824 The real Dark Souls were the friends we made along the way.

  • @ront7132
    @ront7132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hollow Knight music really goes well. Yet again another great video

  • @brunosyllos5678
    @brunosyllos5678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, these new lore videos are so good vaaty, seriously

  • @zegreatpumpkinani9161
    @zegreatpumpkinani9161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Funny, I just posted a comment referencing you, ON A HOLLOW KNIGHT VIDEO, and then look at this. One of if not my favorite OST of all time btw.

    • @spaghettilastname3095
      @spaghettilastname3095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nice to see a fellow player
      the lore is amazing and is so deep i love it

    • @PerpetualNoob
      @PerpetualNoob 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird to have HK music over Dark Souls footage. It fit so beautifully. :D

  • @jagadadzikrap.1513
    @jagadadzikrap.1513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Next:Ludwig Lore 👍

    • @blakeritchie9088
      @blakeritchie9088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Even in this darkest night... i see... potential for a good lore video

    • @at2at
      @at2at 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about a prepare to cry for ludwig??

  • @andrewnorris7642
    @andrewnorris7642 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I appreciate these videos vaati. Dont let anyone tell you that you're just milking the series

  • @heilmodrhinnheimski
    @heilmodrhinnheimski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wanted to say your pronunciation of Jörmungandr was absolutely perfect. Instantly got a like from me.

  • @Furiousa96
    @Furiousa96 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos because they help me relate to my brother who loves Dark Souls because I don't understand anything about this game.
    and this is really unrelated but i got super excited that I recognized the music you use as background.

  • @supernova00500
    @supernova00500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Man, I wish Vaati would start doing lore videos on other "Souls-Like" titles, I would love for him to do a series on the new 2D platformer: Blasphemous

  • @Jounzey
    @Jounzey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Give me that smooth, calming voice!

  • @aoimidori1237
    @aoimidori1237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:40 I want this in my desktop so badly :(

  • @guitartruong3981
    @guitartruong3981 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using Hollow Knight's music in a Dark Souls video... Two of my favorite IPs in recent memory. Thank you.

  • @Skavoc
    @Skavoc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Digging the Hollow Knight music :) I’m so glad you’ve found more and more content to squeeze out of this series, Vaati. I love your work and hope to see more in the future!

  • @blackfyre7900
    @blackfyre7900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Primordial means the beginning of time. Time begun when the first flame began - which corrupted dragons, which made serpents. So, no, "Primordial Serpent" is still correct.

    • @pard2397
      @pard2397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nope. tell me where it is stated that there was no time before the first flame. the 4 lord souls are Life, Death, Light, Dark. nothing about time. with primordial they mean that the serpents are there since the beginning.

    • @blackfyre7900
      @blackfyre7900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pard2397 Because the passing of time is a form of disparity and disparity didn't exist before the First Flame.

    • @pard2397
      @pard2397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackfyre7900 There is not even a cycle of day and night. The day and night cycle is Age of Light and Age of Dark. Also the serpents are there to represent Ouroboros the neverending cycle of life, death, dark and light. They are there to make sure that ages can begin and end

    • @blackfyre7900
      @blackfyre7900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pard2397 There is a day and night cycle. There is quite literally places in the game where it is night, such as the Darkroot Wood and Basin.
      Also, show me some evidence that the Lord Souls besides the Dark Souls are specifically to do with light, life, and death. Pull up some evidence. I have a feeling you're the type of person to watch a Vaati video and take it as irrevocable fact.

    • @pard2397
      @pard2397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackfyre7900 if you want evidence watch the intro of dark souls. it´s stated a houndred times that the souls are light (Gwyn the lord of SUNLIGHT), dark (Dark Soul), death (Nito) and Life (witch of izalith).
      Next. Nope no day and night cycle. always sunny in anor londo and always dark in new londo and dark root forest.
      hmm.. wait a minute the sun in anor londo is fake and if you stop the illusion it´s suddenly dark. wow how could that be?
      it´s gettin dark cause the flame is fading and it´s extra dark in places where the abyss is strong. Please look up Ouroborus and take a look again at dark souls. there is a neverending cycle hosted by serpents.

  • @jaredbowman7764
    @jaredbowman7764 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How elucidating. Just as the logic of the world dictated that the light would transition to Dark, my own growing understanding of the Dark Souls lore through your videos has transitioned my trust and loyalty from the Lord of Sunlight to the true order of the world and the Dark Souls of man who were damned by Gwyns usurpation of the world's order. Thank you once again for painting a clearer and clearer picture of the true meaning of the fragments of lore we have access to.

  • @arvidblomkvist1972
    @arvidblomkvist1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Why is there Hollow Knight music? And also can u make lore vids of Hollow Knight?

  • @DragonGunzDorian
    @DragonGunzDorian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been replaying ds3 lately. I had an urge to relearn the lore of this series again. Anything regarding the abyss always facinates me. Especially kaathe, and his motivations.
    Very good video vaati, even this long after it was uploaded.

  • @themetablanket3400
    @themetablanket3400 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hollow knight music in the background just made me want a mossbag and vaati crossover