International TD25C Turbo Blues - will it cure the smoke?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- Thanks to help from some great friends- @DieselCreek , Big John, Gino, and I remove and install the turbo from my 1968 International TD25C. I sent this turbo off to @AreaDieselService to be rebuilt. Will this cure the excessive black smoke problem? Stay tuned to find out!!
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0:00 Intro
1:12 Turbo Removal
13:32 Intercooler Inspection
21:38 Turbo Installation
35:37 Startup and Run
40:35 Summary/Next Steps - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Nice to see Matt talking a break and supervising for a change! 😂
I was just being the Gopher, Sam knows more about this stuff Than I do lol
@@DieselCreekvvv
Love both ur guys channels 👌🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Love your channel and Diesel Creek and the fact that you guys do so many collaborations makes it even better. Thanks for the videos.
Ditto:
Sorry that it failed so quickly. But, thanks for showing all of this. Too often we watch videos where everything goes smoothly with no problems. You and Matt at Diesel Creek show the real world. Things break, some things go wrong. It makes the rest of us feel a bit better about our own disasters.
Looking forward to seeing what comes next.
Matt "You're in the wrong country to be this thin". Was a great line..........
Another great video from two of my favorite channels Matt from Diesel creek and Sam from Scrappy industries!!! What an Entertaining Pair!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍
Never forget to fill the oil circuit of a new turbo with fresh oil und then turn the rotor by hand, befor starting the motor for the first time after such a repair!
I did prelube the turbo with an oil can. I don’t think that made it into the video. It made oil pressure pretty quickly
WONDERFUL VIDEO! I got greasy with you😂 Just love watching this stuff. It was a sad ending, but the sun will rise again. Be interesting to see the repair video on what happened, that’s how we learn, and get smarter. Just ❤ that machine, you’ll get her in the next video!
Thank You for showing your work on the International Harvester Tractors, I worked in a IHC Dealership parts department while in high school and college!
Area Diesel Services sent me...bummer that a goofup on repair killed the new bearings...but they owned up to it and are getting you a new new fixed one!
Love seeing you and Matt hanging out with each other fixing old steel!
Keep em coming!!!!
Sam let’s hope that Area Diesel can fixit again they are magicians!! Amazing team of helpers!! Thanks for sharing
Come on Sammy, they are just a few bolts, you can't be scared of a few bolts. Matt isn't afraid of no bolts. Heck he doesn't even worry about ripping things apart before he sends them off to Area Diesel. Keep up the great work guys!!!!
It’s a shame to wreck the part that was just rebuilt. When I saw that soft coal smoke, I knew that something in the turbo loop had crapped the bed and I was hoping it wasn’t the turbo but …. I hope you get her resolved. She looks like a work horse once you get her back in tune. You have my best wishes. I just subbed so I wouldn’t miss the next part. You and Matt are two of a kind so you’ll make her fly. 🥸👍👀✅❗️
You boys and your toys! Glad to see the old Cat running smooth😊
The smoke out of the TD25 reminds me how some truckers would change the fuel settings of the 220/250 Cummins to have smoke out the stack thinking that they had more power. We have come a long way since then.
Good job on the turbo replacement. I always liked the TD 25 because of the high and low range on the steering clutch big Ed coming to you from Central city Kentucky. Have a great day.
Hey Sam this is turning into an expensive hobby LOL,really enjoy your collaborations with Diesel Creek I love the old machines and the effort you guys go to keeping them going .
Kym
Adelaide
How cool is to see Matt in an auxiliary role.
Sam it’s truly a fun time watching your videos keep them coming please.
Your IH is a very cool toy to go along with the rest of them.
Oops! Things happen, sorry you had to experience that, but I guess it goes with the territory. I am sure you guys will get it figured out. Good luck and will be looking forward to the reinstall of the turbo, thanks for the tag along video young man.
i love those TD25's, 18's and 28's Nice turbo from area diesel, I love there work. Grandpa had 2 TD18's for logging and a TD28 for building logging roads. We got lucky and he made a video of a logging op in S. Oregon with a 8mm camera and my Uncle converted it to digits. Some of the logs are so big they rolled them onto the trucks. I would love to send it to you so you can share it there with all the other great Iron lovers. I grew up around logging Shovels that used cable grapels to load logs, way cool when your growing up and getting to "play" with that stuff. Cheers brothers
Add a Switch blade turbo like mr jeffs 👌👌
Brilliant Video, Sam watching from Edinburgh Scotland UK 🇬🇧 👏 👌
My old forewoman once said, If it's got tracks or t*ts don't f**k with it. Looks like sound advice here. lol
Can't wait to see this thing in action at the show next year
Having a turbo repair twice that sounds like that's going to be more expensive than Matt's d8 turbo repair
Sorry it didn’t hold together. Looking forward to seeing it running with a healthy Turbo. Thanks for taking us along.
Best set of teeth on TH-cam.
I’m so glad you have Mat with you,,,,you too are brothers 🎉
Great seeing you and Matt on the project.
Thing dont always go according to plan.
Great video.
That old dozer is a money maker Matt and Scrappy----post new turbo.
I actually have 2 of those turbos for a TD25. I have a core engine and an engine in my TD25 that had 500 hours on a rebuild before it threw a rod out the left side of the engine. I tried finding another engine but haven't been able to locate a good one so I'm probably going to end up putting a Big Cam Cummins in it.
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Consider sandblasting the inside of the exhaust manifold, this could have happened cause the now unrestricted exhaust flow through the freely spinning turbo made some rusflake take a pilgrimage to your exhaust side turbofan, high speed impact deformed it and made it catch on the stator exhaust ring, shopvac or throttling without turbo and pressure and return connected
Also compressed air down turbo oil lines, sludge can build up restricting flow
Nice video Sam. Area Diesel Service strikes again, looks like a factory fresh turbo, in what seems to be a super quick turn around. ADS best in the game👍👍
The turbo has no oil.
With that size of oil feed line and return,you should have a bunch of oil everywhere at the removal ,and dripping from the cartridges.
You will fry the third one unless you check flow and pressure.
Thank God for mig Tig and plasma cutter a man can fix anyting but don't forget about that hot wrench torque they do come in handy
Great content guys y'all rock
Are you getting enough oil flow/pressure to the turbo? It could be a rag clogged in the line (I've seen that before). Cool video guys.
Rag in the coolant passage.....I saw that one too
Area diesel services reported they put in the wrong bearings...was supposed to be a 2 port bearing, they put in a 1 port bearing in a 2 port housing cutting off oil flow to the bearing (due to it being an obsolete and VERY rarely worked on turbo [loss of education/training due to obscurity])...just goes to show you the toughnessof those old machines...it ran 15-20 min with NO oil and didn't grenade into pieces!
Fun to see these two together!
What a pushing Bit😮
Thanks for sharing, really enjoy your videos.
Great video thanks Sam and Matt
Great video!
Thank you very much for the video. 🤗
Great channel & equipment 👍👍
You 2 fellas rock
You boys are a good team!
Great video. The video didn't seem to go back together quite right. It was rockin too much when the two parts were put together. Expensive hobby. It seems to run better, then the black smoke came back. I look forward to part 2.
Great video. I.
Watching this video was very good for me . cant wait for the other video .
Mr. Scrappy and his 57way superduper pocket knife.a new wonder tool 😊😊😊.
You seem like a very happy person. Always with a smile 😊
Area Diesel messed up but they made good for their mistake. They were trying to save some money for Sam and themselves and it just bit them on their arse! They are a good, honest firm!
Love to see it back running , hopefully it will soon run like new again.
That is one massive machine! I wish I had one of those
OK good I see his name , Hi Sam ....Ben Alberta ,Canada
Thanks for including the broken re-manned turbo.
Did you check if you have oil delivery to the turbo ? That carnage sure looks like it ran dry to me. The lines looked suspiciously empty and dry when the old turbo came off.
Pinched or
Nice video. Good friends, good ti es.
Great filming, interesting, helps us understand what can go wrong , catch ya later Sam .
Very good 😊
Nice too se you guys together. Matt is a super cool guy, like his channel. 👌💪
If it doesn't work I would blame Matt he was coaching God Bless Y'all have a great day
Good video. Sorry about the outcome. It happens. Glad you kept smiling.
Nice machine. Hope you get the turbo fixed.
Tough break Sam!!!
Excellent camera work gentlemen! I love your natural conversations, but you both need to be mic-d up!
Sorry to see that after all the work you and Matt and others did to get the turbo off and then a repaired one back on and OMG, then to have THAT one lock up, and bend the shaft, and ......have two options now, either get the rebuilt one back to working where it will stay free and not lock up again or go with second idea, and just replace it with another, like you stated in the video. Great video Sam.! appreicated.
So it runs like an ALCO, I'm o.k. with it. Great turbo tute, thanks guy!
Good video brother,peace…
I love heavy equipment repair
Boy I hate that plexiglass, that would be the first thing I would remove, can’t see a thing. I always preferred open cabs because closed cabs have all that glass that gets dusty and you have to constantly keep it clean, plus it bothers me when I can’t hear what my machine is doing. but I’ll bet it’s nice when it’s cold out.
I am ready for round 2 .
Is a shame the turbo didn't want to work for shore they not cheap to fix hope it go's well on the round 2.
If I'm getting the heating stick out to try to remove bolts or nuts. My Grandad told me to use candle wax. Just heat up the offending bolt and touch the candle to it, the wax gets sucked down into the threads and since learning that I've never had it fail. Always listen to your elders as they know wot their chatting about . .
such are the ups and downs of old iron. if round 2 is not successful, will look forward to the Borg Warner retrofit. great episode!! your audio is getting better. many thanks.
It’s always fun working on old engines where parts are scarce or nonexistent.
Dangit bobby!! A couple min after you started working the tractor, I started to think to myself "what in the hell is that noise??" then suddenly realized that was captain turbo committing sudoku. Dangit bobby!!
Also - I made it 33 minutes into this video before noticing, it doesn't look like this turbo system has a wastegate of any kind on it?? Give it ALL THE BOOST. God, full boar on a turbski of that size on a motor of that size has to be like 70psi+ @ ALL TEH CFM!
Love watching you and Matt working together. Reminds me of wrenching with my friends and coworkers lol
My buddy had a big land clearing project so he went and bought a I think it was a 1970 TD-30 or 35 along time ago can’t remember a big dozer though we ripped into it adjusted valves changed fluids adjusted tracks that machine ran like a scared cat 🐈 pushed a lot of earth great machine
Letterkenney reference: I'm subscribed now.
I second Matt's coment on you being skinny enough to clmb in between the track to get the extension
Scrappy Industries and Diesel Creek, whats to go wrong? Ummm.............
After heating those bolts up, I would have hit them with PB Blaster.
Borg Warner S400 would be the route I'd go.
Nice effort ! It seems there is erosion where the flanges meet . Makes you wonder if brazing and resurfacing in a lathe to spec would help the alignment and interface ?
Try turning down the max fuel screw on the pump until exhaust is clean and then turn back up in small increments until machine is performing ok,should only be smoking on acceleration with correct fuel and timing they used to run pretty clean under load.
I’m sure it’s on everyone’s mind: Don’t mess with Area Diesels artwork! Ie….don’t take it apart after they put it together.
I won’t disagree with you. Problem was it was a new center section and I didn’t mark where it was originally. I also thought I had to take it apart to get to those bolts
@@ScrappyIndustries it happens. I’ve done it myself! It still made for a great video. Shows what kind of problems can arise when working on these beasts. If all else fails, bring in JAYPAYDIRT to consult. But he might not touch it since it’s not a Cat.
Wow...what an exercise in frustration! I'm sure you will get the situation resolved. The only question at this point is will it be with stock (evidently hard to obtain) parts, or a retrofit to another turbo. Oh, and of course, there's the no small issue of $$$$$. But as my uncle (50+ years heavy equipment mechanic) used to say: "It's always fixable......the only question is how much time and moolah will be needed?"
lesson learned, magnet add to tool box, and if torch employed fire extinguisher is required of course, I am a freak, I carry 3 in my personal sedan.
2 things. That Mack needs aluminum wheels on the rear and that truck will be beautiful. The other is you need to bring that to the aths national show in York Pennsylvania next June!
Hey Sam I just got a chance to watch this episode and I enjoy all of yours and Matt’s videos about working on equipment. By the way I saw that MANITOWOC sweatshirt you have on and wondering if you worked for them in Shady Grove PA. I worked for MANITOWOC Crane Care in Jeffersonville IN at the warehouse and just wondering. At one time I worked for Brandeis Machinery and Supply in Kentucky and they were an International Harvester Dealership at one time and sold allot of the TD25 series dozers. How ironic huh? Thank you for the great content I really enjoy big Machinery and working on them too!
Thanks for the comment! I do not work for Manitowoc but one of my best friends from college was a test engineer at Shady Grove and he got me the sweatshirt
WOW IS MONTER. PERFET
Hey bud , now I'm watching your channel and ,holy smoke Hi Matt. \What's your friends name?
A guy had an 8 with a blown turbo and replaced it with a new switchblade turbo and popoffs and a sexy Pete stack ,it stopped blowing smoke and got better fuel usage and power overall..Turbo was definitely larger.
Those 817s were straight brutes of taken care of.
Good idea to prelube the turbo but looked like oil issue to me along with your bent shaft
i could have been number 37 assisting with this project if i showed up. 🤣
You’re always number 1 frank 😎
Normally if a turbo goes bad you'll get a lot of white smoke. All that black smoke points to crook injectors and/or injector pump I woulda thought.
Dunno who your cameraman is but they're good
Para el dti817 se le modifico y modernizo con el turbocharger 4lf-754 ó 4le-504
part of life
You did check the air filter right? 😉
Great job.
As I'm fond of saying, "compost happens".
👍🏻🍻
Excellent video, got a good helper too. Hi Matt, bad luck with the new charger though though, I can't see any video's on Area diesel's site about your charger ? any links? Bob. UK
They will be posting in the next week I believe