Yep, already watched it! They definitely went the extra miles to take care of you!! They offered me a job after I questioned them showing grinding a shaft before straighting it. They do appreciate people who pay attention to details!
Area Diesel must be commended for their integrity in handling of this job! (watched their video, too).They did a great job after owning up to the bearing problem. Glad you got things running, but wish the black smoke was a bit less.
I watched Area Diesel's rebuild of this Turbo and to find a company that goes over and above to accommodate older equipment when others would just shine it on are golden
Ran a TD25 years ago as my daily driver in the Early 90s. Probably a thousand hours on this dozers Twin. They roll coal constantly. I would go home in the evenings and scrub my face from the soot. On extremely windy days I wore goggles, and would look like a raccoon at the end of the day. Great video, thanks for the memories.
you had so much fun the first time , lets do it again ... without failure. AreaDieselService is grand to stand behind this work . Hell of a lesson on upgrade of build , but a learn
such a shame that There USED to be a HUGE IH plant not far from where I was raised as a child in Melrose Park Illinois, where the construction side of IH's plant was, and employed a HUGE amount of people, and by the 1980's is was all but gone,! What I do know about them is what they built, they built to last and they were touch machines. Always happy when I see a video on one that is being saved and used. Great work Sam!
Back in the day, "Turning It Up" meant taking a pair of Vice Grips to the Fuel Return line, but fuel was well under a dollar a gallon, and oil was supposed to be black, on Diesels anyway, LOL. You might want to look for a "modified" fuel return line, and just cut the modified part out, and throw a compression coupling over where it used to be. Good luck, She's a keeper!
Love watching you. People work on these 5060-year-old equipment. Trying to get him running. I think they made better equipment back in those days. However, I can go back a little farther. When I was a teenager, my grandfather taught me how to operate the steam tractors that the farmers use to use. So that tells you how old I am
Watching all these channels who use area diesel for their repairs, I recently called them concerning my sons truck 6.6 Duramax the man that I spoke to was very knowledgeable very patient with my questions and seems like a business that I would love to support when the time comes for injectors or any other other services
😂 Both smart guys together, NICE! I like watching Scrappy (came to him via Diesel Creek) and Matt appearing in the background, knowing something to the work, has some smile and some comment...🤘😎 Nice to see you both having a good time together. Greeting from southern Germany Joe
the heavy smoke is the nature of the beast , in 1964 Sask Dept of hi-ways purchased several TD 25's and they all smoked heavy, IHC advised the 817 CU engines nature was heavy dark exhaust, in 1968 Clark Construction purchased a brand new IHC TD-30 with 817 Cu inch engine Power shift , it was a brute could push a mountain and it rolled the coal!
I watched the Area Diesel vid and blown out of my mind on their explanations and their ultimate solution. How many places would have even admitted they goofed?????/
Hi Sam watched the rebuild on area diesels channel guys done an awesome job on that turbo big thumbs up to them for admitting they made a mistake, they sure do look after their customers seems to be running great now take care and all the best to yourself and Matt 🔧🔧🔧👍👌❤️
@AreaDieselService did you right , for Curtis and crew finding the mistake is the right thing to do. The businesses of today need to "Have" customer service as their number one goal then that is word of mouth advertising that bring loyalty the them!
They did tend to smoke... I'm not sure I would say they smoked that much though. Hard to tell as it seemed like it cleaned up more after the engine got some heat in it. I'd feel better if it had an EGT gauge if a person is going to keep it under sustained loads. Or back the fuel off and call it a day.
That place looks like the boys with their old toys nirvana old shovels and drags everywhere you look. I have always been fascinated with tracked vehicles and got to operate an old D4 once thanks to a friend of my son. It was a blast. Happy Thanksgiving fellas.
You came out on the good side of that deal,you have an almost brand new turbo that is the last one on the planet for a cheap rebuild price. You two aren't used to working with equipment that starts that easy ,unless its your SuperLiner. Happy Thanksgiving to you and Matt.
Nice running IH, definitely a bit of a smoker, but its definitely a pusher, fun watching it run. See you went to the bull pen, so to speak, in having Mat from Diesel Creek to help out, nice to see him also. Good luck in the up and coming season of fun in the dirt. Thanks for the update young man.
Love that old IH iron! Had a dealer close by and I used to look and drool. I know Caterpillar is a great machine but back in the day International was pretty darn good too!
Great video sam . I watched the rebuild on the turbo. That was cool to see. Mistakes happen we only human . They stood behind that what counts. I run a TD 25 when I was young. I believe it smoked a lot. Thanks for sharing.
Great video! Love seeing the two speed steering levers in action. Jpaydirt solved the smoke problem on his 9er with a switch blade turbo. Might make a nice upgrade for the ih.
Very interesting video that Area Diesel did explaining the process and rebuild of this old turbo. They really know their stuff and kudos for being open about the initial mistake with original bearing choice. Nice work all round.
Happy Thanksgiving to You and Your Family. Great to see the IH pushing again and lasted more than 15 mins this time. Area Diesel also did a great job. Nice to see a company stand behind their products. Thank you for the video. Cheers.
I told Matt from diesel Creek I built for my equipment some tracks and slide plexiglass to close my dozer loader and shovel from the elements and critters including engine I put some poison to keep them out from eating my wires
I was thinking to much fuel as well. I know there is a thin line between power and to much fuel. Nice looking old machine and keep up the nice video's. Lee
So does TH-cam pay double when two Rock Stars are in the same video? I wondered about the coal coming out of the stack but I think it’s like Matt’s deuce an a half it’s just the way it’s made. Very nice dozer it’s just a cool looking machine I like the ROP it just looks cool.
Hey scrappy that muffler could use a good coat of bbq black paint after a wirebrrushing and then next year when your run it it hard put a second coat to save it
Sam,back in the 70's,I ran the TD-25s while in the the SeaBees,those crawlers smoked as well,but not as much as yours does when the turbo spools up. Definitely seems like the fuel was turned up,perhaps in an effort to counteract a the bad turbo that was on the engine,that's been twice rebuilt now. I can't recall any of those machines having any problems with the steering reservoir though, like yours is having,,perhaps it's cracked or that fitting is loose that you were talking about,that oils going somewheres,,may have to lift the floor plates and seat to find the problem, no fun tracking down leaks. On a brighter note,Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!!😎😎😎
It will have an internal leak in the steering control valve and will be loosing the oil into the tranny oil. Didn't think the 25C still had the oil resvior, the one I operated didn't, but we had 4 X 25 B s that all had the resivior and all lost oil, was a daily top up job in the morning. The 25B that I was on had been modified to run from the tranny oil system so had no separate steering oil system, it was a last of the 25B series.
Turbopalooza! Wooo!! Tell AreaDieselService to modify the bearings...put a 3rd hole in the bearing...make it a "universal" this way, one of the holes will push oil to the bearing from the feed channels :) Matt in da house!!! Keep em coming!!!!
Glad you to the old girl up and running again. Sounds great. Thanks for another great video Sam. Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Take care and stay safe.
Nice old dozer. I think it’s against some law to turn an injection pump down??? Thanks for the Videos. I really appreciated Area Diesels Video on the Turbo Failure and Repair. Don’t know much about the 817 IH Diesels, I don’t recall them being used in the agriculture side.
Check Out Area Diesel's Video Here!: th-cam.com/video/s5RYUz0EORQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UIyLa3LzagbcQZu0
The flayrod's gone askew off treadle!
Yep, already watched it! They definitely went the extra miles to take care of you!!
They offered me a job after I questioned them showing grinding a shaft before straighting it. They do appreciate people who pay attention to details!
WHY IS IT PUTING OUT SO MUCH BLACK SMOKE .
Hi again Sam
Do you think that the injectors may need an inspection or rebuild..normally so much rolling coal indicates too much fuel
Area Diesel must be commended for their integrity in handling of this job! (watched their video, too).They did a great job after owning up to the bearing problem. Glad you got things running, but wish the black smoke was a bit less.
I watched Area Diesel's rebuild of this Turbo and to find a company that goes over and above to accommodate older equipment when others would just shine it on are golden
*YEP 👍!*
Absolutely agree.
Ran a TD25 years ago as my daily driver in the Early 90s.
Probably a thousand hours on this dozers Twin.
They roll coal constantly.
I would go home in the evenings and scrub my face from the soot.
On extremely windy days I wore goggles, and would look like a raccoon at the end of the day.
Great video, thanks for the memories.
Great job and no wrench rolls were harmed in this video! She's a big beautiful machine!
you had so much fun the first time , lets do it again ... without failure. AreaDieselService is grand to stand behind this work . Hell of a lesson on upgrade of build , but a learn
After watching Area Diesels video I was impressed with their honesty and integrity. Glad to see the 25 up and running.
Kudos to Area Diesel Service for tracking down the cause and standing behind the service.
such a shame that There USED to be a HUGE IH plant not far from where I was raised as a child in Melrose Park Illinois, where the construction side of IH's plant was, and employed a HUGE amount of people, and by the 1980's is was all but gone,! What I do know about them is what they built, they built to last and they were touch machines. Always happy when I see a video on one that is being saved and used. Great work Sam!
Always good to see a collaboration with your good friend Matt
That IH is a beast. Pretty cool that people can leave their heavy equipment at the show grounds.
Back in the day, "Turning It Up" meant taking a pair of Vice Grips to the Fuel Return line, but fuel was well under a dollar a gallon, and oil was supposed to be black, on Diesels anyway, LOL. You might want to look for a "modified" fuel return line, and just cut the modified part out, and throw a compression coupling over where it used to be. Good luck, She's a keeper!
Rebuild/replace the injectors. I believe the black smoke is caused by improper atomization of the fuel resulting in incomplete burn.
Love watching you. People work on these 5060-year-old equipment. Trying to get him running. I think they made better equipment back in those days. However, I can go back a little farther. When I was a teenager, my grandfather taught me how to operate the steam tractors that the farmers use to use. So that tells you how old I am
Watching all these channels who use area diesel for their repairs, I recently called them concerning my sons truck 6.6 Duramax the man that I spoke to was very knowledgeable very patient with my questions and seems like a business that I would love to support when the time comes for injectors or any other other services
😂 Both smart guys together, NICE!
I like watching Scrappy (came to him via Diesel Creek) and Matt appearing in the background, knowing something to the work, has some smile and some comment...🤘😎
Nice to see you both having a good time together.
Greeting from southern Germany
Joe
I'd try to cut back on fuel a little. Don't listen to those who say they run like that.
Those 817's sound sooo good 👍
I say kudos to the Lucas Oil used as assembly lube that the turbo lasted that 15 min without oil!!! I have also had great success with it!
You and Matt are lucky to be able to work together! I'd have a blast working with you two! I'm with you at every turn!
the heavy smoke is the nature of the beast , in 1964 Sask Dept of hi-ways purchased several TD 25's and they all smoked heavy, IHC advised the 817 CU engines nature was heavy dark exhaust, in 1968 Clark Construction purchased a brand new IHC TD-30 with 817 Cu inch engine Power shift , it was a brute could push a mountain and it rolled
the coal!
TD25 was/is a strong, strong machine. They are beautiful as well. Love it!!!🚜
I see you got your faithful sidekick Matt with you
I'll wager Area Diesel would put that injector pump back to factory spec and eliminate it completely from the smoking issue.
I watched the Area Diesel vid and blown out of my mind on their explanations and their ultimate solution. How many places would have even admitted they goofed?????/
Hi Sam watched the rebuild on area diesels channel guys done an awesome job on that turbo big thumbs up to them for admitting they made a mistake, they sure do look after their customers seems to be running great now take care and all the best to yourself and Matt 🔧🔧🔧👍👌❤️
Area Diesel is awesome , they did an indepth rebuild for diesel creek TH-camr.
@AreaDieselService did you right , for Curtis and crew finding the mistake is the right thing to do. The businesses of today need to "Have" customer service as their number one goal then that is word of mouth advertising that bring loyalty the them!
G'day
It's great to watch and listen to two mates working together on another project.👍
Another collaboration of my 2 favourite TH-cam channels. Happy days.
They did tend to smoke... I'm not sure I would say they smoked that much though. Hard to tell as it seemed like it cleaned up more after the engine got some heat in it. I'd feel better if it had an EGT gauge if a person is going to keep it under sustained loads. Or back the fuel off and call it a day.
I was thinking the same.
She is turned up. Good
What for. Is it running hot
That place looks like the boys with their old toys nirvana old shovels and drags everywhere you look. I have always been fascinated with tracked vehicles and got to operate an old D4 once thanks to a friend of my son. It was a blast. Happy Thanksgiving fellas.
You came out on the good side of that deal,you have an almost brand new turbo that is the last one on the planet for a cheap rebuild price. You two
aren't used to working with equipment that starts that easy ,unless its your SuperLiner. Happy Thanksgiving to you and Matt.
Area diesel is the best great video thanks Sam and Matt
I've watched your struggle with that turbo and YOU'RE STILL SMILING 😮😮😮
Top effort Sam you are a legend
Super great, they work on the older stuff like that.
wow! One simple bearing! It goes to prove that experts know thier stuff and figured out how to trouble shoot and fix it.
Ilike when you and matt work together it's asume
Gonna go straight from this to diesel creek have a great thanksgiving all !.
Great vido Sam, love the way you and Matt can make that old iron operate again thanks for sharing-happy thanksgiiving and stay safe.
Nice running IH, definitely a bit of a smoker, but its definitely a pusher, fun watching it run. See you went to the bull pen, so to speak, in having Mat from Diesel Creek to help out, nice to see him also. Good luck in the up and coming season of fun in the dirt. Thanks for the update young man.
Scrappy, I Knew you were smart, but knowing what a turbo encabulator is. Im impressed. Rockwell International
Love that old IH iron! Had a dealer close by and I used to look and drool. I know Caterpillar is a great machine but back in the day International was pretty darn good too!
Thanks for taking the time to bring us along, I know it can be a pain in the butt for you. It looks like that dozers can make a pretty deep cut.
It looks like maybe the air cleaner is plugged up from the amount of smoke from the exhaust awesome video Thank you
Great video sam . I watched the rebuild on the turbo. That was cool to see. Mistakes happen we only human . They stood behind that what counts. I run a TD 25 when I was young. I believe it smoked a lot. Thanks for sharing.
Great video as always mate thanks again and hope you’re family and friends are safe and doing well all the best for your future adventures.
Great job on getting ur new Turbo attached to ur TD25C Dozer..
My two favourite TH-camrs together 💪🏻🇺🇸🦅
I love the Terex crane video series ❤
Way to go Area Diesel! Happy Thanksgiving!
Great video! Love seeing the two speed steering levers in action. Jpaydirt solved the smoke problem on his 9er with a switch blade turbo. Might make a nice upgrade for the ih.
Loved the CW McCall references from Matt in there.
Happy Thanksgiving, I think you have it going now, Area Diesel deserves a thumbs up for finding the problem and correcting it.
That tractor loved pushing a full blade of material! Looks fairly easy to run too. New enough not to have brakes and levers to operate.
Love the video Sam and Matt On the TD25C .
I watched the rebuild, Area Diesel is a standup company!
Very interesting video that Area Diesel did explaining the process and rebuild of this old turbo. They really know their stuff and kudos for being open about the initial mistake with original bearing choice. Nice work all round.
They know their stuff even better now. By "they", I mean the younger people there, they have relics that probably made the same mistake decades ago.
Happy Thanksgiving to You and Your Family. Great to see the IH pushing again and lasted more than 15 mins this time. Area Diesel also did a great job. Nice to see a company stand behind their products. Thank you for the video. Cheers.
Nice is much better so many rounds hope it stays raining with no more issues.
Cant wait to be double heading this summer!!!
Neither can we 👍
When soldering, clean the wire. Don't try to solder with all that corrosion. The joint will be high resistance if you don't clean it.
Area did an amazing job and a very uplifting company!
When they were running good they did smoke like that, great dozers with the steering that could boil some earth, try to preserve the powershift
I told Matt from diesel Creek I built for my equipment some tracks and slide plexiglass to close my dozer loader and shovel from the elements and critters including engine I put some poison to keep them out from eating my wires
Gotta love that old equipment! I have a case 530 ck that's a good runner but parts take research to find.
Sure made for great viewing bro, you and Matt work in well together. Safe travels. Ken.
I was thinking to much fuel as well. I know there is a thin line between power and to much fuel. Nice looking old machine and keep up the nice video's. Lee
good on them for taking on your turbo needs, running great
That Drone Shot of Her Shovin’ has Got to make it into the Intro
Just curious why you guys didn't pour a little fresh oil in the turbo through the oil line hole before you put the line back on
We did both times. I think it’s a good idea
Nice to see tha dozer running right with the turbo, and Matt assisting you. Happy Thanksgiving Sam, and Family😊
So does TH-cam pay double when two Rock Stars are in the same video?
I wondered about the coal coming out of the stack but I think it’s like Matt’s deuce an a half it’s just the way it’s made.
Very nice dozer it’s just a cool looking machine I like the ROP it just looks cool.
That intro logo animation was sweet!
Outstanding as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along.Happy Thanksgiving
Brilliant video Sam watching from Edinburgh Scotland UK 🇬🇧 👏
Turn the fuel down a bit. Those old Internationals did chooch a bit but they usually cleared up pretty good once they were warmed up.
Hey scrappy that muffler could use a good coat of bbq black paint after a wirebrrushing and then next year when your run it it hard put a second coat to save it
Have a look at the injector tips, they come out easy on that 817. They are smokie but not that much. Love your videos
Sam,back in the 70's,I ran the TD-25s while in the the SeaBees,those crawlers smoked as well,but not as much as yours does when the turbo spools up. Definitely seems like the fuel was turned up,perhaps in an effort to counteract a the bad turbo that was on the engine,that's been twice rebuilt now. I can't recall any of those machines having any problems with the steering reservoir though, like yours is having,,perhaps it's cracked or that fitting is loose that you were talking about,that oils going somewheres,,may have to lift the floor plates and seat to find the problem, no fun tracking down leaks. On a brighter note,Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!!😎😎😎
It will have an internal leak in the steering control valve and will be loosing the oil into the tranny oil. Didn't think the 25C still had the oil resvior, the one I operated didn't, but we had 4 X 25 B s that all had the resivior and all lost oil, was a daily top up job in the morning. The 25B that I was on had been modified to run from the tranny oil system so had no separate steering oil system, it was a last of the 25B series.
Running great
I’m impressed you thought too get a expertise of Matt 😅😅😅
Turbopalooza! Wooo!!
Tell AreaDieselService to modify the bearings...put a 3rd hole in the bearing...make it a "universal" this way, one of the holes will push oil to the bearing from the feed channels :)
Matt in da house!!!
Keep em coming!!!!
Finally yes it works real nice dozer 😍😄😄😄😄😄😄😍😍😍😍
MM77 Approved 👍🏻👍🏻
Another great video Thanks Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Glad you to the old girl up and running again. Sounds great. Thanks for another great video Sam. Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Take care and stay safe.
Great video and the IH seems like lots of fun to run.
Awesome job
You should be crimping those battery connectors. If your cable ever gets hot they pop out.
Nice old dozer. I think it’s against some law to turn an injection pump down??? Thanks for the Videos. I really appreciated Area Diesels Video on the Turbo Failure and Repair. Don’t know much about the 817 IH Diesels, I don’t recall them being used in the agriculture side.
nice set of museum pieces you have there!
What a unit
Sounds amazing
My old international 175 rolls black smoke like that when its loaded up under load or changing directions and coming off the decel pedal
A Scrappy and Diesel Creek side dish to go with the Thanksgiving dinner. Thanks guys.
Yall nailed it😊
Great videos Sam. That's how we do it here in Chelsea! I see a lot of iron in the yard, is there a hough 560 out there somewhere tucked away?
Great job Sam , runs sooper duper , catch ya later ,
HEY! Good morning Sam! Happy Thanksgiving to everybody and thumbs UP to Scrappy Industries!
Good stuff guys