The current state of Fisker cars are bad, but of all the "unknown" brands of EVs, Fisker isn't the one I wanted to disappear. They have many interesting ideas and a version 2 or 3 of the car could be really good.
Added weight compared to what? Glass is heavier, aluminum is the same weight. Unless you're using carbon fiber (which no one is unless your EV is a rimac)
Massive money off in the UK (Ocean Ultra@£43k instead of £57k), but have to accept a worrying condition of purchase: "Due to the current economic situation of the manufacturer Fisker Group Inc. and the Fisker sales companies in Europe, there is a risk of limited support and limited services for the vehicles. Buyers must expect a permanent loss of the enforceability of claims for material defects and warranty claims. By concluding a vehicle purchase contract after April 3, 2024, the buyer of a Fisker Ocean declares that he has been informed accordingly and nevertheless wishes to purchase a Fisker Ocean in view of the risk described."
So if you park the Ocean on the correct slope, The Sun enters the video. This car is really spectacular! By the way: if you measure 1m74, it's not an Asian thing, Bjorn. I also measure 1m73, and I'm pretty sure Belgium is not in Asia.
Its always a massive shame when a manufacturer shuts down, especially if they're doing anything innovative. Competition and variety are always good and benefits the cinsumer.
He's in Norway in April. Low sun through clouds, not southern Europe! Bjorn and others maybe don't understand that shade is a huge killer for solar. Also max is going to be about 350w as that's what a panel that side would do. It's good if you are parked outside and get a few miles a day on a good day. Don't expect miracles in cloudy northern Europe!
I get the feeling that you will lose significantly more energy in heat parking the car outside in the colder months than you’ll gain from that solar panel.
I have experience from electric boats with only charging from solar cells. And it works perfectly in Norway from April to October. You get about 5 times the power. 500w labeled solar panel gives an average of 2500wt per day. on days with lots of sun you can see 7x
As a parent, I like that you aren't sugarcoating stuff! It's real life, and you're an open book on reviews and life. I find it hard to strike a balance between work and home, particularly when it comes to working from home. Any tips?
I love my Extreme, best car i ever had (have had new BMWs since 2002 to 2019). I have had very few kinks and the dings is all explained in the manual :P
Oslo is 60° latitude so the maximum direct sunlight at this time of year (equinox) will be sin(90°-60°) = 0.5 i.e. 50%, and that would be at midday on a cloudless day with a clean roof. For most Fiskar Ocean owners the amount of energy gained with this solar roof is minimal for such a high cost item. Fiskar would have seen more energy gains by improving aerodynamic efficiency or better rolling resistance or HVAC control or improved motor/regen efficiency.
@@SimonCoates I was joking, but I get your point. I have already considered in my mind that for 9 months it would be a hit and miss proposition. Autumn and Spring are so variable that only Summer could be relied upon. Renewables are so unreliable IMO that you would have to live in say California for this to make sense. I think that when the sun shines the most it would be a great idea to cover off the use of the air conditioning in the car through a fitted solar panel.
@@colla555 Never. You do that you increase its drag coeficient. Another word car will be subjected to have to consume more energy while driving in the same speed.
Slashed it's price in half to the price it should have been with all the corners henrik cut with manufacturing (cheap parts) cheap software. Don't own a fisker if you're in the Midwest and see the cold. Cracked uv roof from rain that freezes overnight bc of their lack of a 10 dollar rubber gasket and or bc of the design of a "sun roof" lack of laminated glass/polycarbonate glass. That can withstand all types of weather including hail. But naw just a frozen raindrop in the right place will crack this beauty
Nice as of right now you've bought a price reduced limited edition ocean. 1 of 10,142. Hopefully they don't go into bankruptcy on may 1st brother. With no cash(even with 1b loan) inventory, or manufactory to lean with ch.11 it's looking very grim for fisker.
with this you would need to find the right position near your house or work and make sure to park there during they day to take maximum advantage of the panels but even then im not sure it would amount to much... on the go its definitely useless
Dude they designed to implement the other way around. What's the point sunbath the car beside your house (and absolutely not advisable in hot climate) where you have strongest -cheapest source of energy, your home charger! Solar roof in this car is designed to pickup energy while its driven , to add more range or another word to lower the net consumption of the car. However I wouldn't be too optimistic of how practical this is. Say area on roof top equal a 500w solar panel, two hour drive will get you a 1kwh (1unit of electricity). So basically 1% of battery lost could be regained. Probably lower than that in practice.
@@pu7768 the problem is the panel is really inefficient if its not pointing the right way... thats why i said to find the perfect parking spot to maximize the correct position... i havent seen anyone doing a proper test with such a car... sono and lightyear died... aptera is coming sometime never... what you would need to do is find long stretches of highway going east-west and try to drive the whole day forth and then back... i bet once the sun dips below a certain angle the panel production dips significantly... also it might not work if you go very fast
They would have got better solar results sticking a few cheap flexible solar panels to the roof, even they put out more than 34Whr each on a cloudy day. That solar is so poor they may as well not bothered with that option.
In general, when an EV is reviewed, a lot of time is spent on "the tablet". With ICE cars maybe some comments on the overall layout of the dashboard. And that's it. Shouldn't EVs have that as well? Just wondering...
The brand name FISKER is burned for the foreseeable future 😂 The guys from CARS AND BITS … have just sold one for just 30 k … with only 700 miles and the owner payed over 60k for it 😂😂😂 The solar roof is a gimmick 😅
If you have money to waste yes get this car with zero resale value and nowhere to get repairs and parts in future.instead put solar panels on your house and wall batterie = good investment and forget this car😮
@@Steve-fe8gu Probably some added weight, also complexity. Then to get any real gain you'd have to leave it out in the sun all day. That can lead to some battery degradation and also battery drain from the cabin overheat system kicking in. Sitting in the sun is not great for anything and in either heat or cold EVs benefit from being in a garage (gas cars do too). Just a bad idea IMO.
The cells are not the problem it is the integration into the car design. That makes it expensiv and you get nearly no energy for it. Don't forget in the car you have fibrations in many ways that you don't have on a roof.
I am really curious what you are going to say about this car. According to other youtubers, it is soo bugged, that the whole experience is just shiiiiit
They made a fairly good car for the masses especially for the price. I bet Tesla had a much worse start, but they of course only had the Leaf and i-meiv as competition. In their early days. I wonder if the ocean is still a better quality build than Modal 3.
Unfortunately no software updates to happen Bjorn as company on its way out. Still trying to sell inventory at highly reduced prices, but I’m not too sure who will be brave (or crazy) enough to buy one to end up with no support, no after sales, software support/improvements, servicing, etc… Feels like a bit of a waste of your time Bjorn 😢
That company is not sure if it exsist after some months if not Fisker get some Money. Fisker have overwelped them self their goal for the company need Resla money and thats to much. So Fisker will not survive if not a mirakel happend lol
For 20K I take it, if service requires diag software you can convert it to a nice stationary power storage at home. This is a Resuscitation video with a fatal result prediction
Marquez Clownlee is a hack that needs to stick to cell phone reviews. He is way out of his league in the auto arena! Horrible preparation and lots of lies….
I don't understand why people are bashing Fisker for this car, you can't compare it with companies that produce gas cars and EVs since many years it should be compared to the first Tesla Roadster because it's a totally new company. If you look at the specs and quality of the roadster you know it's mostly a shitty car but look at where is Tesla now
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The current state of Fisker cars are bad, but of all the "unknown" brands of EVs, Fisker isn't the one I wanted to disappear. They have many interesting ideas and a version 2 or 3 of the car could be really good.
Looks like most of the complaints can be fixed by software updates.
I like that colour, too. Unfortunately, it's still a Fisker badge on a car doing Fisker things from a company that's on its way to going Fisker.
I have seen a video where someone modified the Fisker badges on the car to transparent dark black (color delete). Looked better.
Saving .3% with solar is great 👍 Especially when the added weight is probably increasing consumption by .4% 💀
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Added weight compared to what? Glass is heavier, aluminum is the same weight. Unless you're using carbon fiber (which no one is unless your EV is a rimac)
Massive money off in the UK (Ocean Ultra@£43k instead of £57k), but have to accept a worrying condition of purchase:
"Due to the current economic situation of the manufacturer Fisker Group Inc. and the Fisker sales companies in Europe, there is a risk of limited support and limited services for the vehicles. Buyers must expect a permanent loss of the enforceability of claims for material defects and warranty claims. By concluding a vehicle purchase contract after April 3, 2024, the buyer of a Fisker Ocean declares that he has been informed accordingly and nevertheless wishes to purchase a Fisker Ocean in view of the risk described."
Here in denmark its 50% off
yeah they are selling off inventory and that is it, game over for Fisker.
What isn't written there is the complete lack of software support as well. It's as much a deal breaker as I've ever seen.
This car looks so good in real life.
We have four of those Ocean's sitting abandoned in the forest in Berlin suburbs.
They say, its just Karma if something go's wrong 🤣🤣🤣
The wordplay 😅. First the Karma now the Ocean.
You really sunk that joke...😅
In October you will have to angle it wheels against the wall to get the maximum solar harvest in Norway 😂
So if you park the Ocean on the correct slope, The Sun enters the video. This car is really spectacular! By the way: if you measure 1m74, it's not an Asian thing, Bjorn. I also measure 1m73, and I'm pretty sure Belgium is not in Asia.
4:35 Adaptive Cruise Control coming in later software.... that is if the company is still around to deliver that 😂 (they are likely going bankrupt)
Nice car, hopefully they keep going.
Can you confirm that the SolarSky adds Wh to the HV battery or just as everyone else charging the 12V battery.
Its always a massive shame when a manufacturer shuts down, especially if they're doing anything innovative. Competition and variety are always good and benefits the cinsumer.
We’ve theorised for years that a solar roof on a car could only be a gimmick… it’s nice to have Fisker prove it
Aptera is giving out true hopes upto 40 miles.. even if they can do 20, could be enough for a large number of people.
He's in Norway in April. Low sun through clouds, not southern Europe! Bjorn and others maybe don't understand that shade is a huge killer for solar. Also max is going to be about 350w as that's what a panel that side would do. It's good if you are parked outside and get a few miles a day on a good day. Don't expect miracles in cloudy northern Europe!
Enjoy that time with your toddler. It goes by so fast.
I like this car!
"at least we have navigation" 😂
I get the feeling that you will lose significantly more energy in heat parking the car outside in the colder months than you’ll gain from that solar panel.
Still no pi pilot, I test drove this 6 months ago and was told it would be working in a month... not good.
Wow, I have one and it’s an awesome car. Its a beast
So glad you’ve got your hands on one. Now for a proper review with someone who actually knows what they’re talking about. 👍😁 Ed
I have experience from electric boats with only charging from solar cells. And it works perfectly in Norway from April to October. You get about 5 times the power. 500w labeled solar panel gives an average of 2500wt per day. on days with lots of sun you can see 7x
Boats are normally not parked close to trees, buildings in garage or under roof, unlike cars.
So helpful rule of thumb under optimal circumstances…
As a parent, I like that you aren't sugarcoating stuff! It's real life, and you're an open book on reviews and life. I find it hard to strike a balance between work and home, particularly when it comes to working from home. Any tips?
thank you for your honest review, as always is was informative. The car never stood a chance against Bjørn the Curser of door handles
I'll never understand what makes it so difficult to have a smooth UI transition between portrait and landscape?
I love my Extreme, best car i ever had (have had new BMWs since 2002 to 2019). I have had very few kinks and the dings is all explained in the manual :P
I think I would have preferred a sunroof rather than the solar panels. Just my preference.
@@TafsernI think a small wind turbine on top would be more useful 😮
Oslo is 60° latitude so the maximum direct sunlight at this time of year (equinox) will be sin(90°-60°) = 0.5 i.e. 50%, and that would be at midday on a cloudless day with a clean roof. For most Fiskar Ocean owners the amount of energy gained with this solar roof is minimal for such a high cost item. Fiskar would have seen more energy gains by improving aerodynamic efficiency or better rolling resistance or HVAC control or improved motor/regen efficiency.
@@SimonCoates I was joking, but I get your point. I have already considered in my mind that for 9 months it would be a hit and miss proposition. Autumn and Spring are so variable that only Summer could be relied upon. Renewables are so unreliable IMO that you would have to live in say California for this to make sense. I think that when the sun shines the most it would be a great idea to cover off the use of the air conditioning in the car through a fitted solar panel.
@@colla555 Never. You do that you increase its drag coeficient. Another word car will be subjected to have to consume more energy while driving in the same speed.
Björn, when you like to have the Car not playing music when entering the car stop the Radio or Player from Bluetooth.
Do the 1000km challenge first. Very interested in seeing where it stacks up with the competition
I fear that few people will now buy a new car from a company that is close to bankruptcy.
Slashed it's price in half to the price it should have been with all the corners henrik cut with manufacturing (cheap parts) cheap software. Don't own a fisker if you're in the Midwest and see the cold. Cracked uv roof from rain that freezes overnight bc of their lack of a 10 dollar rubber gasket and or bc of the design of a "sun roof" lack of laminated glass/polycarbonate glass. That can withstand all types of weather including hail. But naw just a frozen raindrop in the right place will crack this beauty
Nice as of right now you've bought a price reduced limited edition ocean. 1 of 10,142. Hopefully they don't go into bankruptcy on may 1st brother. With no cash(even with 1b loan) inventory, or manufactory to lean with ch.11 it's looking very grim for fisker.
I saw a pre reg run through the auction £40000 reserve ,no bids😳
4:18 someone needs to build a roof reflector that reflects low level sun light directly down.
No mention of the state of the company??
Can you also do 13:00 100% to zero test to see how much buffer is left when EV range hits zero.
Let's GO!!! and hello Isabel!
Greenhouse. You must put some plants there.
So a beta car, with software problems, from a Company that is bankrupt, I would not touch that car as a buyer.
with this you would need to find the right position near your house or work and make sure to park there during they day to take maximum advantage of the panels but even then im not sure it would amount to much... on the go its definitely useless
Dude they designed to implement the other way around. What's the point sunbath the car beside your house (and absolutely not advisable in hot climate) where you have strongest -cheapest source of energy, your home charger! Solar roof in this car is designed to pickup energy while its driven , to add more range or another word to lower the net consumption of the car. However I wouldn't be too optimistic of how practical this is. Say area on roof top equal a 500w solar panel, two hour drive will get you a 1kwh (1unit of electricity). So basically 1% of battery lost could be regained. Probably lower than that in practice.
The vampire drain probably outweighs the benefits you get with this.
@@pu7768 the problem is the panel is really inefficient if its not pointing the right way... thats why i said to find the perfect parking spot to maximize the correct position... i havent seen anyone doing a proper test with such a car... sono and lightyear died... aptera is coming sometime never... what you would need to do is find long stretches of highway going east-west and try to drive the whole day forth and then back... i bet once the sun dips below a certain angle the panel production dips significantly... also it might not work if you go very fast
@@LoneWolf-wp9dn ik i installed 3x sets roof top solar. Panel should face the equator. Thanks for output.
Maybe you should adress the little problem, about fisker being on the verge of bankerot?
They are selling it now for 39k new in Germany, it’s pretty cheap haha
for 9k i'd maybe take one
That's actually insane
For that price, I would prefer the Enyak or ID.4
*Enyaq
Great car!!
Beautiful ride 🍺
They would have got better solar results sticking a few cheap flexible solar panels to the roof, even they put out more than 34Whr each on a cloudy day. That solar is so poor they may as well not bothered with that option.
66Wh during 1hr drive, thats enough to charge 4 phones, nice 😝
Enjoyed your video.
Ripsker
I doubt any OTA updates are coming to these cars right...isn't the company total 'kaput'?
I sell my Model 3 Performance and buy this one, just to many tesla in Oslo ;)
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You forgot to say HEY what’s up 😅
Part 2
DUDE...Ur hilarious. Can't wait to see your review.
I would not get a Fisker if the company financials and company future are in doubt.
Can you check out Model Y LR RWD?
that solar roof is totally unnecessary and it just increases the price.
I like it
Why?
Because.
You are my new favorite TH-camr
I like the car
Didn’t know you have kiss radio in Norway
I'm really annoyed that Fisker failed again. It was such a nice car, a few stupid reviews not withstanding.
Hilarious thumbnail
Design before function
In general, when an EV is reviewed, a lot of time is spent on "the tablet". With ICE cars maybe some comments on the overall layout of the dashboard. And that's it. Shouldn't EVs have that as well? Just wondering...
Thanks dude, you’re funny as fuck!
Fisker will buy by stellantis... Thanks for battle with Tesla
Better off leaving the Soul at about 70% SOC to be honest
The brand name FISKER is burned for the foreseeable future 😂
The guys from CARS AND BITS … have just sold one for just 30 k … with only 700 miles and the owner payed over 60k for it 😂😂😂
The solar roof is a gimmick 😅
I like this shit!
If you have money to waste yes get this car with zero resale value and nowhere to get repairs and parts in future.instead put solar panels on your house and wall batterie = good investment and forget this car😮
Solar panels are so cheap these days , EV manufacturers should add solar panel roof as an option for maximum 500$
You'd never get that $500 back in energy.
@@StormyDog I'm wondering if the minimal gains could also potentially be offset by the extra weight added
@@Steve-fe8gu Probably some added weight, also complexity. Then to get any real gain you'd have to leave it out in the sun all day. That can lead to some battery degradation and also battery drain from the cabin overheat system kicking in. Sitting in the sun is not great for anything and in either heat or cold EVs benefit from being in a garage (gas cars do too). Just a bad idea IMO.
The cells are not the problem it is the integration into the car design. That makes it expensiv and you get nearly no energy for it. Don't forget in the car you have fibrations in many ways that you don't have on a roof.
@@StormyDog In sunny countries like Spain or Croatia Yes it will pay back within 3 years
10:00 it took you 4 and a half hours to change a diaper?? 🤪
cool car ngl but the company is nearly BANKRUPT sp no service etc be avaible soon!!!!
I am really curious what you are going to say about this car. According to other youtubers, it is soo bugged, that the whole experience is just shiiiiit
I’ll take “EVs made by bankrupt companies for $200, Alex”.
Fisker about to go bankrupt😂😂
too bad that Fisker is bankrupt.
not yet. but about to.
They made a fairly good car for the masses especially for the price. I bet Tesla had a much worse start, but they of course only had the Leaf and i-meiv as competition. In their early days.
I wonder if the ocean is still a better quality build than Modal 3.
@@Dr-EV Probably yes.
Again? Werent they just bought by someone recently?
@@citedcanvas85 this week their stock rise 100% and rumours of Stelantis getting in talks with Fusker
What is EXTREME is the title 🤣
What are the chances the original creator of Popcorn Time (the pirate app) watches and is subscribed to your channel? ;)
9:15 No dog mode? I'm outta here.
Car announced 10 years ago, didn't last for 10 days :))
Same thing with the Ionic 5 PV panel .. no real benefit and now dropped. But then this will be a rare glimpse of a car that has no future
I don't understand anyone who buys a car from a start up, let alone one that is in the process of going bankrupt.
Lol if no one buys anything from startups then nothing will be made.
It'll Be interesting to see how less shit if any this one is to the last one you drove 😅
Unfortunately no software updates to happen Bjorn as company on its way out. Still trying to sell inventory at highly reduced prices, but I’m not too sure who will be brave (or crazy) enough to buy one to end up with no support, no after sales, software support/improvements, servicing, etc…
Feels like a bit of a waste of your time Bjorn 😢
Not waste of time at all since I'm getting lots of views.
@@bjornnyland 😜
That company is not sure if it exsist after some months if not Fisker get some Money. Fisker have overwelped them self their goal for the company need Resla money and thats to much. So Fisker will not survive if not a mirakel happend lol
For 20K I take it, if service requires diag software you can convert it to a nice stationary power storage at home. This is a Resuscitation video with a fatal result prediction
You just buying cheap with no warranty. Problem is not just warranty but no replacement parts.
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Did Fisker try to get some sales by going to Bjorn? comments are in line with marques review. Would probably buy one after bankrupcy
I don't think so.
@@bjornnyland thank you for your review
Oh boy 🤷😂
chirp is too loud and annoying
marcus brownlee already murdered this car. no point in reviewing a dead horse
His name is Marques...
Marques, and no, he didn't killed the car. The Ocean was already on the soapy slope long before his review. MKBHD just has a bigger audience 😉
You gave that twig too much credit...
Marquez Clownlee is a hack that needs to stick to cell phone reviews. He is way out of his league in the auto arena! Horrible preparation and lots of lies….
@@rightbackagain Ok. Feel better having said that?
I don't understand why people are bashing Fisker for this car, you can't compare it with companies that produce gas cars and EVs since many years it should be compared to the first Tesla Roadster because it's a totally new company. If you look at the specs and quality of the roadster you know it's mostly a shitty car but look at where is Tesla now
Tesla Roadster = Fisker Karma
Even the Roadster was way better than Karma.
Tesla Model S from 2013 = Fisker Ocean
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