Yup, being a more modular single unit, I fully expect a third party to remanufacture them in a few years, making for an easy swap in case they fail. Unlike Ford where they dont even have a heat pump but still have pieces of the system and hoses everywhere.
He’s ridiculous. I mean what person would twist an interior door handle like that to elicit a sound he doesn’t like just for show. If honestly you take what he says seriously, I got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. 🤦🏼♂️
@@mathieubarquerre7420 The example is just way out there. I’ve worked around cars for 35 years including at Car and Driver, in racing, at a car dealership, consulting to Motor Trend and consulting to major manufacturers. I’ve definitely seen it all. That crap is way over the top. Anyone can do that on ANY car and claim it’s a “fault” of the car/manufacturer. When really it’s the fault of the one guy twisting the car’s interior door handle in a way 99.99% of car owners never do. Happens when people WANT to complain about something they have a “bone to pick” with. It’s not a real experience to the vast, vast majority of people.
@@mannyfernandez6860 You ever look at other makes? They all have gap and fit and finish problems unless it’s hand built like Rolls Royce. A noob won’t notice anything.
As one who services his own cars, I'm more impressed with, no brake jobs; oil, coolant and filter changes; no starter, alternator, spark plug, O2 sensor or catalyst breakdowns.
Same with me. I own a 2015 BMW with about 115K miles on it and do practically all my own maintenance. I would love to ditch oil/filter changes, buying gas, gaskets and seals breaking deteriorating, spark plug changes and all other maintenance involved with ICE cars. 🙏🏾 I only average about 250 miles of driving over 2 weeks too so charging at my house which is solar would be great. It’s a no brainer to go EV for me. I know it’s not for everyone. Can’t deny the future.
most people missed the point on EV, convenience under the """conditions""" - home charging, less than the range per day, not much road trips per year, price < $60k, minimum maintenance. If you meet this condition, it's so good. 5 years of ownership, zero problem. yes, you can argue some maintenance on ICE car is nothing. OK, how about skipping the gas station trips everyweek? If this time saving doesn't matter, your choice. EV is not for everyone.
I own a Model Y. It doesn't rattle, squeak, no parts fall off of it, the seats are very comfortable, the AC/heat works really well, and it's a pleasure to drive. I've driven BMWs and Mercedes in the same price class, and I'd trade the Tesla drive performance and system for a luxury facade any day.
When I first bought my Toyota hybrid I said that it would take a lot for me to go back to plain ICE cars. I drove a Tesla 3 RWD Long Range and a BYD Dolphin last weekend and it feels like my Toyota is a dinosaur now 🤣🤣🤣
I bought the based MY HW4 just 4 months ago and already done over 7000 km. It's the best vehicle I've driven, period. The handling is better than the go-kart like Mini Cooper S Turbo that I upgraded from. The best way to describe driving a MY is like discovering a sharp knife after using all dull knives your entire life. Edit: my MY is made in China, that's probably why it has a better built than the one in this review. 😂
@theodorev666 it's short hand for Model Y Hardware 4. I think you need at least HW4 for your Tesla to be autonomous. So the promise Musk made years ago that all Tesla can be autonomous from the factory, even with HW3, could be a bit of a lie. Unless in the future, they can optimize HW3 for fully autonomous somehow.
I am looking into buying a Tesla soon . What’s the highest level Tesla off of the ground . I can’t get into a low profile car . Bad knees . What does Tesla make that’s not too low to the ground ?
I've watched dozens of Tesla reviews, and this is the first review that touched on what's under the hood and the practicalities. Thank you, i'm a big fan especially on the Lexus and Toyota reviews.
Yes! That was an excellent introduction to the complex energy management system. I guess it is definitely state of the art… or better [if that’s possible]. This video definitely drove that point home. Previously, I was unaware of the complexity and genius associated with the thermodynamic ‘side’ of Tesla vehicles. 32:56
Toyota and Lexus need to get their crap together on EVs. They prepared customers for EVs and then decided not to make them. 16% of Tesla’s customers are former Toyota owners.
What is extremely impressive is that the two electric heaters that heat the coolant are actually the electric motors. They tune the timing of the magnetic field in the motor so that it is less efficient and uses more energy thus creating more heat.
That is one way. The new Model 3 uses the heat from a compressor to make the heat pump work when it is very cold... Chief engineer has been doing a lot of interviews lately...
best car reviewer on youtube. no frills, like a lecture done by an academic level ( not boring type) explanation, seeing channels like this take over bring joy to my heart.
@@bkparque No, they clearly are not. He expounds clearly and thoroughly on the thermal management capability, which he states early and often that he is very impressed by. But Musk also made a big deal out of redesigning manufacturing and how his cars were going to have better builds for less money - and as he also pointed out, the fit and finish of these cars in their price class is equally clearly not up to standards. I thought his comment that Musk would be better off licensing the innovations to car companies that know how to build them well was excellent. Maybe Musk could then dedicate his spare time to figuring out how to build a colony on Mars once his rockets can get people there.
I have 2022 Model 3, both my daughters have 2022 Model Y 's. The build quality on all 3 cars is excellent. No squeaks or rattles, very good panel gaps. The difference is that we live in the UK and the cars were built in Shanghai.
I'm not an engineer but I have had a Tesla Model 3 for 5 years. I am 60 and I have never driven a car that drives and handles so well (including premium brands). Rattles and squeaks? Not in my car, perhaps mine is the exception. Zero maintenance, no more gas stations, quiet, comfortable premium driving experience. But what do I know, I only have 5 years every day experience of Tesla.
I agree I have a model 3 21 yes to fit and finish is not like a Mercedes or Bentley and honestly I don't need 150 buttons in my car.. I like that it's so simple.. but yet so advance. I don't have any creaky noises 😂
I agree as well It’s very quiet however with a big asterisk people don’t understand that because these cars are heavy that they require a stiffer suspension therefore the ride can be a bit harsh but not to the point people tend to exaggerate
I have a 21 model y and it’s the best car I ever had. Went from a Mercedes ml 350 which gave me nothing but problems. Windshield leak- $400 just to diagnose. Transfer case went out- $4500.
After warranty I wouldn't go back to the Benz dealer. The good mechanics get some training there, then go out on their own. So you're paying to train novices.
@@thibui765 Have a toyota carola 2010 has just under 220 thousand miles standerd trans have changed tires, oil changes, one battery and just did front brakes at 200 thousand miles new the car cost 17 thousand. Would not spend the money they want on a battery opp. car.
Bro, where were you all this time? Why didn't you come in my life earlier? I'm so happy to have found a single channel I can come to for a full 360 degree review. Totally unbiased and value adding. Thanks man. Keep up the good work!
An honest review done by someone who actually knows how cars work. 99% of other car "reviewers" wouldn't know where to begin if they wanted to remove the frunk lining to see what's inside the car. Points raised about build quality and the materials are a very valid. I would also add the weird design of the wheels - you are guaranteed to damage them. The car isn't cheap so people should expect something else. I don't know what the profit margin on the MY is but M3 was something around 25% which is a lot. Some of this money could be redirected into improving the interior. I hope "Juniper" will be a big step forward since, like you said, other car manufacturers will eventually catch up. With that being said, I would rather have a car with awesome tech and cheap interior rather than the other way round.
This dude is a shill who bashes cars he sees as a threat to a mechanic business. A Tesla will be in the shop aft less than most cars on the road and he hates them for that. He's not an engineer either and has no understanding of the term "usability" Tesla are the easiest daily drivers. Period. He said he speaks for the rest of the world but the average person desires a Tesla and the best selling car last year was a Model Y.
Yes, the I was surprised at how easily the wheels can be damaged on my Model 3. However, having rented SEVERAL 2023-2024 cars including a Hyundai Sante Fe, a Toyota RAV 4, a Nissan Rogue and a Nissan Murano. While the Sante Fe and Murano had slightly more plush interiors, they weren't really better. The touch screens in all of those ICE cars were cheap, buggy and frustrating to use compared to the Model 3. There was a LOT of plastic in all of these cars. The Santa Fe had softer, but not better seats and the door and dashboard trims were similar. So, clearly you don't know what you are talking about when you say that the Model 3 interior is "cheap." The one fault of the Model 3 is that it does have road noise, but it is about the same as the ICE cars I have rented. The Toyota RAV 4 had atrocious road noise, and the Nissan Rogue and Murano had similar road noise. The Santa Fe was a little better. The other criticism of the Model 3 is its firm ride. But considering it is as fast a several Porsche models, it makes sense that it should have sports car tuned suspension. Regardless, the 2024 Model 3 addressed all of these issues and it is one of the most luxurious cars on the road right now. You have to go into six-figure cars to get better interiors. The new Model Y, Juniper, will probably have the same improvements as the 2024 Model 3. Also, it is probable that the Model Y will have next generation batteries that will give it 500 - 600 mile range. If so, it will be the best car made bar none, and Tesla is going to sell them like hot cakes.
I have owned a '22 Model 3P for about a year and a half now and I love it. It's not perfect - the interior rattles (intermittenly) more than probably anything else in its price range, and the paint quality could be better...but other than that, it's so enjoyable to own and drive and so easy to live with. I don't think I'd want to go back to ICE.
There are other EV options in Tesla price ranges that have much, much better build quality and other car things (and arguably the looks), it's not Tesla or ICE anymore. If I was buying an automotive heat exchange system / battery management, sure, I'd get one from Tesla Motors, but when buying a car other things matter as well.
@@zwerko Tesla has been at it the longest and has the biggest, most reliable charging network. That's a huge selling point for many, but less of an issue now that they are allowing other mfr's to use the SC's. To each his/her own.
Found out what that rattling is - it isn't actually inside the interior - it is coming from the frunk. There is a video about it on YT someone created. It is clips on this large plastic piece. Might be missing clips or loose ones... Funny thing is - found similar issue with my partners Mazda and fixed it as well. Please hope you see this...
Good and fair review. I purchased Long range model with smaller wheels in March 2023 and so far so good. Cons: - very minimal maintenance - cheap to operate so far (saved a lot of $$$ on gas) - very smart (route planning, always ready for set departure schedule, garage opener, Apple music, video integration, etc.) - quick when need it (the ride on 19” wheels is similar to other vehicles, 21” is rough) - smooth power delivery (I like it better than gas vehicles) - pretty good sound system - sentry/dash cam - plenty of storage space - easy to charge at home and plenty of charging locations - kids love it the most Cons: - have to be mindful of efficiency because driving over 75 mph on highway or constant crazy acceleration decreases range - some parts are manufactured using cheap material - no spare tire
This is the best overall review I’ve seen so far for a Tesla . I learned more about Tesla in 20 minutes than I’ve known for the last 3 years of driving one. A very comprehensive review of a most complex vehicle. Thank you.
Actually simpler than an internal combustion engine. Don’t confuse new engineering with complex engineering. It’s not German over engineered madness. Nothing to maintain. I don’t want one because electric cars run on coal which is just silly. An internal combustion engine is a marvel of complexity especially with all the emissions nonsense added.
@@BeefNEggs057 (a) Not all grids are powered by coal; increasingly few are. (b) EVs are much more efficient than ICE, so even running off coal-generated electricity, the amount of CO2 generated is less.
Well, it is now Aug 2023 and I have really changed my mind about Tesla vehicles. Matter of fact, I now own the 2023 model Y long range vehicle. Great Vehicle, simple to operate, and has all the features I would ever need. It only took 3 weeks to get the vehicle once I ordered it. The more I watched videos on the Model Y, the more I liked it. I wanted the Long Range Model Y because of the dual motors AWD, the sentry/dashcams built into the vehicle, the hatchback style, and the simplicity of operating the vehicle. Really don't need all the buttons and dials - and I use the voice commands to operate many of the features. The navigation system is outstanding and setting up routes are quick and easy. I changed my mind about the GM vehicles because going to dealerships and dealing with the sales people - Tesla buying system is very easy and no haggles. The long wait times to even get a vehicle from GM, and the Chevy vehicles do not even come close to having all the features I like and want that are on my Tesla model Y. So that is about it for now. Take care.
Yes. I respect AMD. He's clearly a really nice and honorable man. But it's clear he and people like Scotty... I mean, fixing cars is their livelihood. So what do you expect? lol. Of course they're going to have issues with them. The ICE is what they love/do.
just wait to see the issues when you are closed to o full reach the warranty mile expiration, everything falls apart, and no one services Teslas other than Tesla, so you might spend the big bucks. hopefully you aren't putting high miles on the tesla, so will last for a few years of happiness.
How has it held up? I’m considering a Tesla but have been pretty resistant until recently. Are you on the original battery? Any other issues? How has Tesla been to deal with as a company?
@@runnikee6986 Original battery was replaced at 65k, not fatal but Tesla just decided to replace it. Initially told me it will be fixed. I have original motors. Door handles were disaster, total 8 replaced, nowadays seems to be Ok. Overall, i am very positive and would consider buying model s again. Used one… Model 3 and y could be different story. This car is for someone who does a lot of driving due to cheap operating cost. ( electricity is not taxed yet), maintanace is cheaper due to less moving parts, I did brakes only once, after 120k. If you are looking for perfect interior- this is not for you. In my case, i like simplicity. Big screen with gps makes life much easier on daily basis along with effortless acceleration. Not from 0-60 but 60-90. During long trips it is less tiring.
@@runnikee6986Honestly, if I were you I wouldn’t, look at something else. The build quality is just woeful, everything there is nasty. I agree with this reviewer, the teslas are brilliant in so many ways but where they are bad just outstrips the good. I even went and looked at a new 6th month 2024 Tesla, it was horrendous at best. Yes, goes like the showers of shit but a really truely horrible drive. I’m not anti ev or anti Tesla, I just wish they’d get with it but they haven’t, they have no plan to. Junk.
I live in Phoenix with lows in the high 20's and highs around 110-115 and not had any problems with my 2021 Tesla Model Y long range. Yes a bit of range degradation of a few percent, but nothing that made me change my driving habits. The assembly of the vehicle is more like an aircraft to save weight, but you forgot to mention that the car is rated as the safest car on the road by NTSB.
@@itsbtunes There are many ICE cars heavier than a Model Y. The Model Y weighs 4,500 pounds. Something like a Toyota 4Runner weighs 4,400 pounds (up to 4,800 on some trims). The safety comes from a huge crumple zone in the front of the vehicle due to no engine sitting in the front and the batteries sitting underneath the car.
@@markwilliams6378 please link these explosions, love the misinformation hate cause it is different. Then while you are at it, look up the car fire rates/Million miles per car statistics that are nicely complied by several agencies.
Hey TCCN Auto! I'm not too far from you guys :) Thanks for the review and your thoughts. Just want to point out a few things to help out some of your viewers. I have ridden in many Teslas over the years, and own a few currently. What I can say about the build quality is this: Yes, Tesla is a new company and they do not have their manufacturing all ironed out quite yet...BUT...that does not mean that ALL Teslas are bad. There is certainly a handful that leaves the factory with panel gaps and rattles. Many do not. The reason that the Model Y looks like a tall Model 3 is because of its economies of scale. The Model Y shares 70% of the exact same parts as the Model 3, so they can build more of them faster and cheaper. Also, you've got a good eye...the stalks and window switches come directly from the Mercedes parts bin. Speaking of the interior, there is a reason for the minimalist interior, and it's a genius move. They purposely put all of the "buttons and switches" on the center touchscreen so they can be upgraded via free over-the-air software updates. In 10 years from now, a 2023 Honda Civic will still have its physical buttons where they were placed in the factory, so whatever design fad was going on in 2023 will still be there. It will look dated in 10 years. On this Tesla, they can upgrade the user interface of the screen...move buttons to better locations...change the size or color of them...the sky's the limit. It will still look modern in 10 years thanks to the software updates. Lastly, the "cheapness" that you're feeling isn't just a Tesla thing. I go to the Chicago Auto Show every year and look at all the latest cars, especially EVs. I sat in every EV there last year, and none of them were as nice as my Tesla. The cheap, hard plastics in the Hyundai, Kia, Subaru, Nissan...you name it...just weren't good. The BMW EVs were nicer to the touch, but the electronics and UI of their screen were simply inferior. Don't even get me started on 3rd party charging networks for other brands to use. Tesla is the total package. By the way, I consider myself a car guy first. I still own gas cars too, but I really love driving my EVs. Great video, thanks for sharing!
@@mikev4634they are solid efforts but their range and efficiency compared to the size of their batteries is inferior compared to Tesla. They also cannot be updated over the air as easily and they need 3rd party charging which is much less reliable. So why would you pay as much or more for a car with inferior tech, range, ability to upgrade and substandard charging infrastructure?
@@mikev4634 brother I wasn’t a Tesla fanboy until AFTER I bought the car. The car is so good it turned me into one. Before I bought mine, the car I wanted so bad was the Kia Stinger. I was obsessing over that car…until I sat in one. I just couldn’t get over paying that much for such a cheap interior. All the touch points were hard plastic, and it felt just like their budget cars. So I decided to buy American! Tesla is the most American built car in the world.
I find that car reviewers are using traditional car standards while reviewing EVs. Not to long ago, a car with 300 hp, leather seats, and a good sound system had the total package. EVs have changed everything.
Your attention to detail is WHAT I LIVE FOR - my attention to detail is insane so I appreciate your perspective SO MUCH. Cannot wait to watch all of your videos!!!
I love this guy on the way he explain things on any video, very clear and very professional, but with knowing all these “bad” things about Tesla, I still went and bought the latest 2023 MYLR, and I will make sure no gaps and rattles are with me period, before I head home from Service Center
I accidentally stumbled upon your channel and love your reviews. I’m at the end of the lease of my 2020 Model Y. I agree with many points you’d mentioned. I’m growing tired of it’s interiors and researching for my next car. However, Tesla is still in my candidate list. To the point of poor interiors, I just want to point out that for a car start-up like Tesla, it is very important to make some critical decisions on pricing and profit margins. If Tesla goes full luxury, they either have to increase the vehicle price or shrink the margin. For all of Tesla’s intents and purposes, they want to push as many cars out as possible. So I don’t blame them for cheap interiors. But at the end of the day, consumers do really care about business. They just want something they think is valuable to them, whatever that is. But for me, I do find myself driving like a hooligan in my Tesla ( not blaming Tesla, just a confession.) 😂
Elon doesn't care. He already said that plain bland look is what he was going for. There are so many people that already like it with the non-luxury feel so why would Tesla change it? Most people don't have a clue how the interior should look for the price they're paying. I think the seats are too narrow in the model Y and I'm not fat.
It's the capital investment too. Tesla puts these vehicles together in 8-10 hours on the line. VW's 30 hours was an amazing feat that the industry loved to see and hear...It does mean it will be missing things other cars have but it is mostly in the name of saving weight, money, time on the line, parts, etc...
I agree on the margin. 4 months after your comment we've recently had news that VW is struggling to sell EVs and considering layoffs. Why? I think it's because in Europe we're suffering from notably higher electricity prices, and higher interest rates which has affected the financial benefits of switching. Tesla's high efficiency means that they are better value at the same price, and the low cost of production means they can lower prices and still make a profit selling everything they can make.
Can't believe I only just discovered your channel now. Your reviews are the best on youtube, professional, honest, no fluff and to the point. Respect!!
He’s ridiculous. I mean what person would twist an interior door handle like that to elicit a sound he doesn’t like just for show. If honestly you take what he says seriously, I got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. 🤦🏼♂️
Very fair and honest review! We watched this review prior to purchase, and was very skeptical of Tesla's quality. However, we were in the market for an electric car because we already have at-home charging setup done by the previous owners of the house. We test drove the Mach-E, Kia EV6, VW ID4, and the Model Y. Surprisingly, the Model Y had the best build quality, and according to the salesguy (Alex), the models built during the pandemic were terrible quality (late 2020 to early 2023). FWIW, the Ford and the Kia had horrific build quality; there were so many issues with panel gaps and plastics falling apart that we were honestly shocked. However, the new ones built at the Austin factory were significantly better. Our other vehicle is a 2022 Lexus RX350, and to be honest, I haven't had the best luck with it. We took it back to the dealer multiple times due to rattling and squeaks all over the place. So far, we put over 1K miles on the Tesla, and it's been way better than the Lexus in the first month of ownership. Time will tell for sure though.
In my opinion, electric cars are not for me, they are all ugly, and I drive 600 miles daily, an electric car is useless, from an electric to a hyd, the hyd is better 1000 times.
@@carlosaragon5103 What do you do for work that would require 600 miles a day? I have 2 friends that drive full time for Uber/Lyft, and on an insanely busy day of driving people to the airport (like Thanksgiving week), they're clocking in at 350 miles. Even long-haul trucking at a max of 11 hours/day typically averages to be 400 miles daily.
I've had my Tesla for over two years. Your opinions are all valid! Panel gaps, build quality, and non-sensical things are alongside some absolutely brilliant things and some of the best car software ever written. If the entire car was dumbed down, I'd accept manual things (making the car cheaper). It does seem they didn't put ANY money into some things that matter. Efficiency matters most, so they put their money there. I agree with most of your assessment, the door handles (interior and exterior) consistently confuse my passengers. How easy would it have been to put in some generic, reliable handles? Sure, it adds complexity and more potentially breakable components versus a single button, but I'm willing to accept that. Thank you for your review! Subbed! I look forward to many more!
Tesla was designed to feel different as Apple wanted their products to look and feel different than what they were....personal computers. A Tesla car is still a car...with four rubber tires, steering wheel, pedals and some cushy seats....like Starbucks is still, after all the froth and wierd hip counterstaff, a cup of coffee. In doing so Tesla had become the 90s BMW/Mercedes with some quirky differences just to be different. That comes with price and pricey monopoly service. That's fine for the first line of buyers who were people that babied their cars, polished and fed them daily, looked at them adoringly and would pay the price for their metal baby. A lot of what they do, probably 70% is just good engineering. 30% is just trying to be different for difference sake. The original simplicity and ease of maintenance argued by the original EV providers like Nissan, just flew out the window when Tesla got going. These are extremely complex and mechanical appliances now. The same thing happened over time with ICE cars, once simple like a lawn mower, now extremely complex. A pleasure and pride for their owners...except when something goes wrong...then they're just a damned car.
People seem to miss what the exterior door handles are about. Its about air turbulence. The handles are flush with the door for efficiency. Not sticking out, not recessed, flush just like things on a airplane. This is why there is no "generic reliable handles" I do agree the handles are confusing for new users. I understand the design though. They have combined the button push with the presentation of the handle without using any electronics (like on the other models). I wished they would had done something similar to Ford though. A button that unlatches a door, then a spring to push the door far enough out to get your hand behind. More intuitive but not as pretty.
I wonder if your opinion has changed after the price drops. For me its just practical, and for 30k its pretty worth it. Charging at home, its the perfect everyday car.
Running ac in the summers puts my electric bill at worst was 800$ a month roughly I couldn't imagine how it would be also charging a car. I think it works for people in the right area or have solar. The way California keeps raising electric price and now there's consideration of tax charging electric vehicles by the miles since they don't get taxed in gas I feel like the saving cost you get with a electric vehicle is slowly fading away. The world doesn't want you to save money lol they just wanted everyone to get sucked into the electric vehicles and now they're looking for ways to make money off you since they're proven to be efficient which is bad for businesses.
@@devins1495 ive been charging mine at local pasadena city sponsored fast chargers near my house for 0.15 cents a kw. And the super chargers near me have a night rate of 0.27 kw. So right now my public charging is cheaper than my home electricity. Cost me about 6 bucks to fill the tank once a week. Occasionally i get to charge at work for free which is nice. I dont have solar but i dont think my charging would be too crazy. Looks like im only using about 170-200kw a month on driving. So even if i charged at home i would still stay in the cheaper electric bracket. Except for the two months a year we need AC like you mentioned. My electric bill right now tops at $300 in the peak months. In a 2 bedroom condo. I just went and filled my wifes prius up with gas and it was $35, the same driving in my tesla would cost about $10. The savings are definitely there right now
I purchased my M3P purely for the performance. It meets my needs exactly. I view all the fine points and luxury features of other cars as unnecessary fluff. I certainly can understand how it may fall short for many buyers, but for me it's close to automotive perfection. I love the technology, it's simplicity of operation, and economy. Everyone is different.
@@leerjet18 why should he be worried? These will definitely need repairs. And gas cars aren’t going anywhere anytime soon, as much as you would like them to.
@@musk-eteer9898 you people know absolutely nothing about cars. There’s a lot more to a gas car than just the engine just like there’s a lot more to an EV than just the battery and motors. You have suspension, brakes, body hardware etc…he’s gonna be fixing all these things in the future when they fail so he’s not going anywhere.
@@leerjet18 I don't know. I've seen a lot of his reviews and to me he just tells it like he sees it. Me, why pay that much money for a car and it's not going up in value. I just can't wrap my head around it 😂🤣😂. Save your money and invest in real estate my friend 👍 and you're be set for life. Remember you can't take it 6' under with you. So why not enjoy it while you above ground?🤔? Just a thought. Have a great weekend my friend 👍
I use my model Y for ride share and usually the first thing people say upon entering the car and seeing the interior is wow this is a really nice car! Personally I don’t miss having a hundred confusing buttons everywhere and prefer the clean clutterless feel. I like the majority of owners have no panel gap issues or poor build quality issues. So in sort his feelings about the build and design is just his opinion.
I've had a Model 3 for 2.5 years. The most enjoyable car I've ever owned. My last three were 750iX, LS460, and CLS550. I agree that it's a cardboard box but it's fast, smooth, and does most of the driving for me when I am tired. I've never enjoyed driving this much or not driving at times. I've had the service guy out to my driveway half a dozen times to fix rattles and things, and it's a great process for me and those issues have been resolved to my satisfaction. Based on my preferences, there is no better car at the Model 3 price point. I might feel differently about the S or X at the price point of my previous cars. This is less than half the price, much less than half the cost to operate, and orders of magnitude more enjoyable, for me.
That is unless you keep it long enough to need to buy a new battery....just about all of your previous energy "savings" are then vaporized in an instant.
@@halc.2899 We shall see once these model 3's and Y's have been around for 10+ years. They say they should last 200-300k miles which seems pretty good to me. Even then, they still work, but the overall mileage on full charge will be less than when brand new. If you had to replace the battery at 100k miles then I would agree with you, but there's no proof that it will be the case. These batteries are a bit more advanced than what's in your smart phone. By the way, 8 yr 150k mile warranty on battery with 70% battery retention on all Teslas.
I really like the handling. I guess the appeal is mostly the experience itself; everything just works seamlessly. It does what you want, when you want it, all the time. you never have to work around the machine. You get in, put it in gear and go. no fumbling with keys, no vibration, no noise. you get heat right away, you don't have to wait for an engine to warm up. you can even ask it to pre heat or pre cool before you get to the car. you can floor it right away, you don't have to worry about a cold engine. When you DO floor it you always get the full go, you don't have to write a letter to the transmission asking for permission to do a pass and hoping it gets back to you in time. you can do short trips, you don't have to worry about it not coming up to temp just to move it around the yard. When you're done you just get out and go, it shuts down & locks on its own. you never go out of your way to get a top up, you just plug it in overnight and start every day off with however much range you need.
Driving as first owner a 2009 Prius now at 316.000 km still able to achieve an 750+km on a 45l tank that amounts to some 400 to 500 kWh (depending on the source you use for that conversion) However a Tesla Y LR achieve some 480km on about 70kWh. That is a shocking difference in overall efficiency.
I obviously live in a different world. I think the design outside and inside is brilliant. I have a Fremont 2022 Model Y that came PERFECT from the plant.
I disagree - one went by me yesterday. It’s basically a Corolla sized vehicle that’s worse built. If it was priced a bit less than a Corolla I’d be ok with that. No way the luxury pricing makes sense.
@@mkyhou1160 id rather crash inside a Tesla Y than a Corolla as I actually want to live. The build quality of the decorative panels is way below safety in terms of priority for almost everyone except for some folks like you
People who are into MINIMALISM will love this car. It's almost the anti-car since its the antithesis of all cars that came before it. Except the wheels of course.
I've looked at literally dozens of reviews of the Tesla Model Y and this has one of the most unique points made by far. Thanks so much for your insightful review!
This is a paid negative hit piece on Tesla, He says hes a mechanic but doesn't show any of the mechanical components of the car. He claims the body has bad gaps but shows none. He is not a body man either. He said the interior is put together with cheap glue but doesn't show any delamination. He claims the car creaks. Why didn't he take it for a test ride and prove it creaks. This is nothing but vast array of lies. I have reported this video to the Tesla legal team for deformation.
@@ronnythompson9115..So Ronnie, if any of this video is inaccurate poss Tesla has a legal case. But when this guy's opinion is true ( though your mind is closed to this possibility) then will his freedom of speech cover him,; or will that cover him legally to begin with? Just one guy's opinion? So ignore it. How can freedom of speech work if not on TH-cam? Oh, I forgot TH-cam stops randomly disagreeable sites too.. If Elon leaves it up doesn't that indicate Elon is ok with freedom of speech too?
@@bikemannc - Why doesn't he actually prove his points instead just spewing non sense out of his mouth? It would be pretty easy to prove his negative issues. Thought this was a mechanics review not a fit and finish review? In a court of law you have to prove your points. My guess is he is getting paid to spread Tesla FUD. Their is a difference between defamation and freedom of speech.
I’m a mechanical engineer specializing in HVAC. I appreciate your excellent video on the heat pump technology on the Tesla. Well presented sir. Love all your videos. Entertaining and knowledgeable and honest. Thank you.
I own a Tesla mdY 24 and I think this review is totally honest, only real car enthusiasts agree with him, others keep praising about how fast and low maintenance a Tesla is and forgot about the workmanship of a car maker. Turn off your music and drive through rough road such as East LA, you will feel how bad the suspension and cheap parts rattle in your Tesla...Keep in mind since it first release model, Tesla has been listened to customer s and constantly improve their car
I had a 2018 Model 3 for the last four years. It is a well built and well thought out machine! Luckily, they don't break down very often! Those are the good things! The bad: Range is never anything near what they claimed, unless your trip is totally driving downhill (is that possible🤣)! If, in the rare case, that you have to take it in, service absolutely sucks! I traded back for a gasoline powered car! I needed to take out of town trips, which isn't the Tesla's strong point, unless you have a lot of time and patience! But for city driving, and commuting to work - it's the best! Note: I do have a home charger!
Before I bought my Model Y, I had a Model 3. I live in southern Nevada and had taken it to Wisconsin, California, Utah, Arizona and other places. Leaving the house with a full battery, going to WI was simple. Drive until it was time for lunch, start charging the car, and before I was done eating, the car was ready to go. Then drive until it was time for dinner, start charging... When I got to where I would spend the night, charge the car, go to bed, get up and repeat as the first day. Third day, repeat except that at the end of the day, I would be at my destination. Very conveniently, the trip was split into almost identical 600 mile sections. The autopilot system worked very well and I never had to guess where the next supercharger was or what exit I needed to use when changing Interstate highways.
The miles shown in your battery icon shows combined range. Not highway. Which is why when you enter your destination it gives you the range while traveling highway speeds and it takes into account weather. That system has been incredibly accurate, I would suggest changing your battery miles to %. That helps unconfuse people.
@@nvrick7729 It sounds like you eat lunch and dinner every two hours. Lunch at 10 am and dinner at 12pm? So unless you drive at 45mph there is no way you can drive from real lunch time to dinner time between the charging. Most people drive at 75mph because the speed limit is 70mph there. Even if you had M3 LR with 358 miles of range you would have driven about 200 miles after you charged at home. 20% loss of the range because of the speed and 20% battery reserve. That is 3 hours. But then you would have to charge until 80% and now to get back to 20% you can only drive 150 miles. 2 more hours. Certainly not the time to eat dinner unless you are a Amish who eat dinner very early because of the lack of electricity. So I know you are FULL-OF-SHIT.
Hats off for a very honest and frank review straight from your heart. I really liked how you started with a simple Thermo dynamics concept and explained the whole system. Only someone with a good grasp of concepts and deep practical knowledge can explain it in a simple manner.
Wow. What an eye opener of a review. What an austere interior. It'd be awesome if the technology were licensed to Toyota or Lexus. Imagine how nice the rest of the car could be.
i agree with the the gaps being an objective problem but saying that there are missing buttons on interior is a strong subject of opinion... i actually find the cleanliness and lack of controls a big improvement against all other manufacturers... additionally the newer models have double laminated windows which improve the silence in the car.. not even speaking about safety and AI focused driving asistance and 360-degree camera system to record everything 24/7 is extremely huge plus especially when accidents happen so you have a strong defend case against insurance companies..
There’re many real life accidents involving Tesla on TH-cam you can watch proving your point - saving a Tesla driver a lot of pain and money. No bull, the cameras around the Tesla are constantly recording and the police love the evidence available. Sure it can also incriminate you if you’re the troublemaker.
The screen is decent but could be much better designed. It's large but ut seems about 40% is fixed in showing the image of the car in various situations. So the really usable area is only about 60% of the screen. Also, those two sections of rhe screen should ve reversed. The area of rhe screen that you'll interact mire with should be closer to the driver. Lastly, all Teslas scream for a HUD feature.. It would go a long way to make rhe driving experience nuch more user-friendly.
You should see the early cars that came out of Fremont lol. I heard stories from there. One guy I know said they struggled stretching those panels to get the gaps closer without causing damage to the paint. He thinks the assembly of some internal parts somehow went out of whack. At one point he said an engineer asked them to cut a hole in one of the panels so he can stick a camera in there to see what's preventing the panel not to sit properly. Early production pains obviously. But if the recent cars are still like that then they have a more serious problem.
Really enjoyed your review even though I do not agree with all of your opinions. For reference I have a 2022 Model Y Performance in the garage parked next to a 2021 Toyota 4Runner. We also own a 2013 Lexus RX450h and a 2017 Porsche 911 C2s, so the whole gamut of quality. I agree that the quality of the Model Y is not fantastic but ours must be way better than the one you tested. No squeaks or rattles and the door handles do not squeak. Some of the body panel gaps are not perfect. In comparison, the other three cars we own are fantastic. The ride quality is firm but not terrible. Firmer than the 4Runner or Lexus and similar to the 911. The overall look of the Model Y is not great I agree. You kind of wrote off the acceleration of the car, but that sure makes merging onto freeways and passing so so easy. We use our Model Y for around town driving for the most part and love it for that. It is fast and reasonably nimble and we pop it on the charger at night and the next day have a full tank of "gas". Most importantly, my wife loves driving the car. She usually drives her Lexus RX450h, is not super comfortable driving the 4Runner, and has never tried to drive the 911, so her feeling super comfortable driving the Model Y was a factor in deciding to buy the car. We have had the Model Y since last September and still love it. That said, if I could only have one of our four cars and could not sell one or trade one for something else, I would keep the 4Runner. It is the most versatile and most capable. Right now it mostly sits in the garage and we use the Model Y for 95% of our driving.
I miss my 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium. Couldn’t afford the gas in November 2021 as I drive for Uber/Lyft. I used a 2015 BMW 328d (diesel) until I traded for a 2023 Model Y. Can’t wait until I get a home charger. Just got my Tesla CCS adapter tonight when I came home. Hopefully that’ll cut my charging bill a bit as the chargers at the mall are $0.43/kWh and the Tesla Supercharger is $0.46/kWh (12:00am-4am8
@@J.Young808 Love my 4Runner but it mostly sits in the garage now. No plans to sell it as I still use it for hauling stuff and off road trips. Nice not to be spending so many dollars on gas though.
Love the review. I agree with most comments, quality of some materials, general fit and finish. My personal experience with my 2018 Model 3 is, some panel gaps (I can live with those) 115k kilometers, 93% battery health (Tesla gave us a way to check in a recent OTU (Over The air Update), zero rattles, a joy to drive. Did I mention the OTUs. Seems like a big oversight. Except that my 4 year old 3 doesn’t have the Octovalve or double window panes that my wife’s 2022 Model Y has, my 3 has everything that a brand new 3 or Y has. The updates are huge son my list. No mention of safety in the review either. I’ve found that people make a big deal about safety but most times it’s only lip service. My daughter is pregnant and I was really happy she got a Model 3. I have a 5 year Honda Cr-V and I guaranty that my grandchildren will never be in it as long as I own a Tesla. I kept the Honda for when I need to carry stuff that I don’t want in the Y. Sure wasn’t for the towing ‘cause the Y can tow more.
No fatalities in a Lexus RX. None. And I can get one I love for $40K less than the subsidized slave labor crazy repair cost Tesla. And it will go 300K miles with a battery replacement that is under $200.
I own a Tesla Model Y and agree with you in all aspects of your review. It rattles, it has got a cheap interior & everything is fragile. 5 Months after the purchase, the windshield got a stress crack. You need to wait for months to get your car fixed due to the lack of enough service centers... Really appreciate your honest review. Im just addicted to your videos. Currently thinking of buying a ICE car and the moment I like a model, I just come and search for your review video. Great job and keep doing more and more.
Damn Sir, this is the type of content and presentation You Tube was invented for. I have nothing with Teslas; I live on a tiny island where the concept is not feasible nor environmentally friendly so I have no interest in EVs ...yet glued to the screen here like watching Breaking Bad in condensed form LOL. My compliments . Subscribed and I hit the bell. Well earned!
The natural locations for controls are on or around the steering wheel where the wheel can steady the hand or finger when driving - especially on bumpy roads. Well designed visual touch control displays are great visually but take your eyes off the road and the bumps move the finger off target.
@@tedmoss Voice controls already exist. You can say things like "Temperature 68", "Tire Pressure", "Navigate to Walmart". You don't need to touch the screen while driving. And if you need to do something complicated on screen, that's when you activate AUTOPILOT, hands free steering adas system.
Finally a review that describes exactly how the model y feels to me. I tried to like the car because it is electric, and so popular. But when it came time to purchase it looked too bare bones.
I appreciate your knowledge and reviews. Being in my 6th decade of life, I have owned several Toyotas, Fords, Lexus, BMW, and have test driven practically everything else in over a decade of car rentals while traveling. I can relate to the comments relating to fit, finish, and cheap plastic. I also respect your objective and subjective opinions. Here are mine. Having had all ICE vehicles up until my recent 2014 Model S (still have), as a car enthusiast, I didn't mind maintaining my vehicles with frequent engine oil changes, changing air filters, oil filters, spark plugs, points/condenser back in the day of distributors, occasionally transmissions, clutches, axle fluid, radiator fluid, having engine work done with the replacement of ignition coils, fuel injectors, fuel pumps, oil pumps, timing chains, timing belts, torque converters, and practically everything that gets hot, moves, or spins at super high rpms. I also did some SCCA Solo II racing, and having a low center of gravity helps. It was fun trying to pretend my MR2, 260Z, Supra Turbo, BMW were actual race cars, but I know they weren't. The point I am making here is that I'm fed up with dealing with heavy engine blocks that sit in the front of the vehicle at a height that is suboptimal for a heavy piece of machinery on a vehicle that is supposed to handle. Yeah, yeah, the MR2 was mid-engine, and the BMW handled well, but face it. Those freaking heavy Tesla batteries sit below me low to the ground. I have no heavy fossil fuel engine parts to worry about. All I need to worry about is my cheap plastic and not so great fitment. Let's talk ergonomics. When I get home, my Tesla suspension lifts the vehicle so I don't scrape the front, the garage door opens automatically, and I never have to worry about the door being unlocked when I leave. My Lexus and Toyotas all are not so smart. When I exit the car before the wife does, and try to lock the vehicle, the Toyotas always emit a continuous piezoelectric sound to tell me and everyone else in the vicinity that I am stupid for not waiting for the wife to leave before pressing the key fob lock button. What about the Toyota and Lexus center dashboard clocks not syncing with the computer clock? Why are they separate and not integrated?
Great point about maintenance. I have owned several gas car brands before such as Benz, Volvo, Ford, Hyundai, Honda, Nissan, and maintenance was so costly compared to my 2018 Tesla model 3. The only things costed me so far for maintaining model 3 for 5 years are windshield wipers and fluid, cabin air filter, and a set of tires, just normal wear and tear. I only use superchargers when travel hundreds of miles as I normally charge level 2 at home, which is practically free because I have solar panels. I love the look of Tesla except model Y, and admit the interior is not nice and polished as my Benz, but its EV performance is wow!!! so smooth and fun to drive even in the city streets. I am so excited to finally be able to afford model X, just put order in last week. My next and probably the last car would be the Cybertruck 😮
Great in-depth review. I own a model 3 and it has been one of best cars I owned. With their technology and design. Tesla is ahead of the competition by a decade. If it weren’t for them, manufacturers would’ve produces similar cars like the boring Nissan leaf starting with BMW i3, they are the game changer. The interior is minimalist and most things are consolidated into the control screen. If you are looking for bells and whistles permanently sticking out of the dashboard, in a matter of months it will become standard to you and maybe boring. Most of the controls are also controlled by voice command including the AC. The auto pilot is amazing and with major software updates, it like getting a new car. Speaking for my model 3, I have over 27k on it and it drives like day one, no rattles nor squeaks. As for the design, it’s a personal preference and I love the style of the M3. I charge it every couple of nights and is more than enough for my daily commute. I don’t miss pumping gas nor stopping at a gas station for that matter
Apparently, the Model Y manufactured in Berlin should be a lot better built than the previously ones. I surely hope that, 'cause I just recently ordered a Model Y Performance :)
Great review sir! I'm a marine technician and Just found your channel. Find myself listening to your channel while I'm working on boats. I love your attention to detail and I'm very similar in my work. Takes a little longer to do a quality job and have good morals but it's well worth it! Keep up the good work!
He’s ridiculous. I mean what person would twist an interior door handle like that to elicit a sound he doesn’t like just for show. If honestly you take what he says seriously, I got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. 🤦🏼♂️
Great review - can't wait to see your review of the new Model 3 Highland - they've really improved build quality and finishes - still not the best, but getting very competitive at the price range. Will have to see what they do to the Y.
Unfortunately they have also made their driver assist and "self driving" features significantly worse in the revised model by getting rid of radar detectors and only using normal cameras because of cost cutting.
The Tesla thermodynamic system is amazing. Have you done a similar analysis of other EVs that have a heat pump? I wonder if they can also smartly move heat from so many sources to so many sinks (even if it takes many separate valves)?
Jus got the same model you reviewed (and also have a Camry Hybrid '18, with Comma 3). Our Y was built in Austin, TX the first week of January, 23 and it doesn't squeak... YET. Fit and finish is actually very good and we got into it the day the price was cut by 20%. So far, so good. We know we are the exception. Thanks for the honest review and we watch your channel every week. Check out the COMMA 3 for your Camry. I'd love to see a review by you.
Thank you for explaining it nicely. The transfer of temperature is known as Thermal Equilibrium. Never knew until now that they can actually utilize that in an automobile.
Very nice review and good points to consider before buying one. However just like everything else in life some things are subjective. We are all different and may see things differently, for me I care less about the looks and the environmental concerns are not on the top of my list, and I don't abuse any cars I ever owned anyway. I do prefer the practicality of things on my preference list. For me Tesla vehicle adds the advantage of me spending less time in a service garage for maintenance, it also score high if I get into an accident, and for re-charge I could do it at home and not necessarily at a gas/charging station. Everything else this review points out as the downside of it I don't consider a deal breaker. Its true it would be nice for Tesla to up the game in the quality to be on-par with other vendors but again for me the issues are not a deal breaker. The pluses "for me" out weight the points outline on this video. At the end this video ask "why constantly re-charge it" I thought the question was odd "to me" I thought you re-charge for the same reason you need to charge our phones, for the same reason we constantly has put gas on gasoline vehicles when they are low, and apparently a Tesla car conveniently it will self protect itself it if the detect something outside the norm by limiting the user to go outside of the parameters instead of allowing you cause expensive damage. Maybe in the future we will come up with something that takes care of re-charging all by it self.
I have watched so many of your videos to gain knowledge about the 2013 Lexus I owned, and all of a sudden I am here again to learn about the new car I just bought 😂 Same amount of detail- no idea why you call yourself a Toyota only mechanic, you are the best mechanic i have ever run across (without getting any work done by you). Really appreciate the time you put into all the reviews and repair videos you do.
Great review-thank you! I drove a loaded Model 3 (performance package and all) and it was a nice car to drive, specially fast. It was a rental, I should clarify, so I did not pay attention to the build quality details as I would if purchasing one for myself. However, do not forget to mention the charging network for Teslas; that is important. Biggest charging network and it works reliably. I, like you, would want buttons and physical controls to operate things, and build quality is important to me as well.
Great review of the mechanical components of the car. Other reviewers just highlight the features and a few lowlights without looking at what might happen after 5 years of ownership. The vast majority of people don't trade their cars in after 2-3 years so we care about the long term reliability. This pretty much depends on how well it is build in the first place. Please look at the underpart of cars more often. The look at the Hyundai Palisade was very revealing as to long term reliability. I also like that you don't review every car which means the Auto Manufacturers are not looking for you and thus you can say what you really think.
No mention of the adaptive cruise control and auto steer, aka the Autopilot? Those work very well. Quality has improved in 23, my MY has fairly symmetric panel gaps, no rattles or creaks. The simplicity of the interior is refreshing.
Agree with your your saying around 29:20. We'd really have some better cars then. Use that same tech but improve upon the things tesla SUCKS at. Great final verdict and agree.
Fascinating review! All of your reviews are wonderful largely because most other reviewers don't have your extensive automotive mechanical training background and expertise. Keep up the fine work!
@@stevenstrain283 Your right EV's are extremely simple mechanically - a MASSIVE pro for reliability over a mechanically complicated ICE car. And your explanation would be a great one for a child.... However IT/ battery chemistry and thermal management etc is being developed and improved at a rapid rate - there is a lot more to EV then most people have any idea about......... Some EV company's are far ahead of others.
You actually missed one of the most interesting technologies Tesla uses to quickly generate heat. You mentioned that there are a couple of electric heaters for when the temperature is too cold for heat pump to work efficiently. What you didn't mention is that those electric heaters are actually the drive motors themselves. When stationary, they can send power to the motors by oscillating a forward and reverse command simultaneously. This results in the motor instantly heating up (very hot) and the coolant running through it is used where needed. No other car make does this.
Musk usually talks about his batteries and his motors. I don't know how their performance compares with others, but he's proud of some things about them. But this is the first review focused on the heat management. I can imagine a linear system being solved for optimal heat ducting given all the parameters, constantly running in a computer onboard. It's good to see some new top-level design in the car industry rather than just refinement of old concepts. As for the fit and finish, everyone agrees, but I don't mind the "empty" interior. It looks sleek as long as you don't touch the materials or look at little details.
It will be nice to see what comes in the next few years. Elon says China is his main competition but if the others can mix tesla engineering with their strengths it might be amazing.
Why don’t mention maintenance requirements, it does have a “transmission “ with lot of gear, the motor has gears and are lubricated , when you need to do an oil change? Can you do it at home like the gas cars?
You don't need to change the gear oil, may not have to do brake, no coolant, just have to add windshield washers fluids blades, cabin filter, tires. Now there's no maintenance schedule
Wow! What a fantastic explanation of how this works, I applaud you. I have never heard anyone explain this in such great detail as you have and I have been following Tesla for quite a few years already. Again, many thanks!!! 👏
The first part of the review about how Tesla's engine works was brilliant, But this poor guy was out of his league when he ventured into aesthetics. He understands the beauty of simplicity when it comes to engine design but does not get it when it comes to the exterior and the interior of Teslas, which is breathgivigly beautiful.
Well-rounded review. Very honest review. I'd like to add a few thoughts about the designs around that piece of screen. The screen is well engineered as mentioned in the review. However, there are two things I do not like the design around it. First, the data about the driving status such as speed, light mode, temp etc are not in front of you; they are on that screen on your right. I feel it quite annoying having to look sideways to check the car speed for example. Second, some controls such as AC temp, sound volume better be large knobs that I can reach and turn them without looking. It's kind of dangerous to shift your focus to the screen, even for just a few seconds, to just lower the temperature or the volume of the radio. Just my 2 cents.
Yep! Those small knobs could be added right below the screen, attached to the screen. There are aftermarket buttons that do it already like the S3XY buttons by Enhance.
I appreciate your review of the model Y. nI however have had no problem with the interior or exterior. no rattles or squeaks. Also, I like the simplicity of the interior I think it looks nice neat and clean. I’ll admit I also like the $13,000 reduction in price Driving the vehicle on long trips has been phenomenal. The super charging system is great and it has a decent range.
@@sethtenrec my Kia niro EV was not much less expensive(AfterDealer markup :-( ), but not nearly as capable as the Model Y. I guess I will just be satisfied with my overpriced vehicle. 14,000 miles in 6 months with only minor issues. :-)
A couple notes on the comments about what he doesn't like...i'm currently riding in that exact same car: same color inside and outside, same wheels and tires. Built in California. 2023 September build. 0 rattles. The road noise when doing small bumps and bigger bumps is a low thud/rumble which is new to me coming from a toyota avalon which seemed quieter. But that said, these are low profile performance tires, bigger wheels, and a glass roof that won't exactly absorb sound...so with that awesome glass roof will come sound reflection which can create more road noise...it's physics. Car to me looks beautiful and functional, it gets way more interior space than any car its size, seats fold flat for sleeping, impressive handling and arodymamics. Additionally the car is more "in tune" with my actions. You get in and go, the one peddle driving after a day is way more control and extension of your driving than any other car, the turning is super responsive and smooth. He said he doesn't like the build...but go side by side with the exception of road noise on bumps...what matches up better? I test drove alot of cars...nothing was close in this price range.
Tesla seems to be polarizing with build quality. I personally have never noticed a problem with build quality. My only major complaint is door handles. Otherwise I am very much in favor of Tesla. I do not own a Tesla, I test drove one… clearly ownership would tell the true story.
@@JaiSilasAya I personally own and have now 5 friends with Tesla's, model 3, 2013 model S, model y...0 build quality issues. All the tesla baloney Is just a bunch of PR bots spreading this info because its the only play left by the legacy car maker industry. Everybody that ACTUALLY owns one as a % will rebuy a tesla vs any other brand. Consumer reports is now saying the tesla is the lowest cost of ownership vs any other brand. The "polarizing" build quality seems to be a bit of nonsense in present day build quality.
What I can’t understand is why there are issues with things like panel gaps. Tesla manages everything related to the production of the parts to final assembly. It’s mostly automated so repeatability should be a non-issue. If they do any QA at all then they have very low standards. Panel gaps are something that can be checked very easily with scanners after each assembly phase. If a gap is off then detour that chassis off the line for manual inspection and adjustment if possible. If the detour line gets full then it’s time to halt production at that stage and figure out why. It sounds like the goal is to hit production and shipping goals then leave it to the service centers to make things right for the customers.
The panel gap issue is an valid one for older cars, but the mega castings have now solved it. My 2022 MY is as good or better than any car I've seen. In the words of one of the leading experts on manufacturing, Sandy Munroe, the fit and finish is now "Bentley, Rolls Royce quality". After having an interior w/o having all those crappy, engineered to break, gauges and buttons everywhere, I will never want to purchase another vehicle with that crap. Driving at night without an instrument panel in front of you is bliss.
To each their own. In my experience I grew up on GM. my entire family owned either an Impala, Nova, Cutlass 442, Monte Carlo, or Caprice. When I came of age, I followed suit with GM and Ford. When Tesla first launched, I was a doubter as to whether the company would produce practical, affordable vehicles. I have owned 3 Tesla vehicles since 2018 (MY and M3 sitting in the garage as of this writing). These cars are engineered and refined over time (structurally and technically). The MY coming out of Texas with the single piece casted front & rear frame (which I currently own) is an engineering first. The 2022 M3 coming out of Fremont with LFP batteries is also a first. If ANY other auto manufacturer can do better they have not done so to date, and the numbers show. Time will tell as to the longevity of both the company and the vehicles, nevertheless the gauntlet has a been set for the industry to follow. Innovate or perish.
All legacy automakers are innovating. Just look at the EVs they are producing and the once that they have announced. Teslas are caca built cars with components that don't last past 5 years lol.
I Couldn't Agree More!!! There is No Other Car I would BUY! No more Smog! Over the Air Updates! Home Gas, or charging! The Most complete charging system on the Planet!!!
Other cars are engineered and refined over time and Tesla still has a ways to go in terms of NVH and ride/handling refinement as well as the sounds they make in the cabin. The drum like resonance is still a part of the 3 and Y at least, even in the more tighter feeling ones. Tesla would be better to slow things down and stop chasing volume over just making the best Teslas they can. But they seem obsessed with volume.
Yep I ordered mine recently due to its price drop. I feel that it’s at a level that is reasonable and makes sense for the wallet. Would NOT have spent 70k on this, that would be dumb. But Tesla can and will evolve faster than any other automaker to meet customer expectations. Tesla is here to stay.
Then why are other car manufacturers catching up to Tesla? Especially in range capability. Tesla is still king but competition is creeping up. Basically your claim of Tesla evolving faster would mean by now they'd have a 700 mile range EV.
What good is evolving is the car isn't built right from the start, Everyone brags about how great the Tesla is, but why are so many people getting rid of them so quickly . I also want to know how long will the car software be supported for - the real period not the happy talk to trick people into being beta testers. Buying one of these used is a huge risk because no one knows how long the battery will really last, Tesla cannot be trusted - if they have faith, guarantee the battery for 500,00 miles let them put their money where their mouth is.
Every car manufacturer releases a few bad batches of the car, every one. Look at the Jeep GC 4xe, I’ve never seen so many buybacks which pretty much means, it was a lemon! Also, no car company makes a car that meets everyone’s needs. We need Tesla, competition is good and it makes other car manufacturers up their game. Sometimes simplicity is good, and sometimes not, to each their own. I enjoy my model Y for 3 years now, and it’s not boring, and yes, I don’t care for Elon and I don’t think Tesla is great and can’t do any wrong, but I don’t have that expectation from any car manufacturer. For looks and ride height, I love the Rivian, however I can’t justify 70k and up. However, Lexus 450h+, 70k practically….ICE cars are 50k and up, so for some Model Y will actually be a good deal, with a much more lower maintenance. All and all, Tesla isn’t as great as Elon think and Tesla isn’t as bad as ICE old schoolers may think.
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. I concur with your assessment regarding the build quality of the earlier Model Y's. Upon inspection of the dash, it was evident that it was one of the earlier versions. However, the 2023 Model Y I recently rented was a significant improvement in terms of construction and the quality of materials used on the doors and center console. It would be interesting to see a comparison between this and a newer Model Y with improved build quality.
New model Y quality is still bad.. all new Teslas seem decent when new because everything is so fresh - but after some use things shift, move, fall apart and begin to make noise. After just a couple months of resting your arm on the door panel or opening and closing the center console you’ll see. Renting a new one is not a good way to judge how well it’s made
Not only Model Y. I know an owner of a Model X complaining about the leaking Falcon wing doors as they are out of alignment. WTF is the only way to describe them
@@yslee1401 yeah I’ve been working with cars since 2017 I work with ALOT of teslas they’re very overpriced, anyone who spends more than $65k for any model is nuts. 3 is a $33k-43k car. Y $35k-45k. S $50k-63k. X $52k-$65k. It’s the power of being 1st to bring something new and game changing to the industry..the actual value is lower than what you can charge due to everyone fanning out over the product and praising it cuz it seems so futuristic
There is something which is missing in this review, though. The most of the budget goes also to the safety of the car (which is second to none) and the audio system. I would buy this car BECAUSE OF its safety!
I recently bought a Tesla Model Y because of the price, $53000-$7500 (tax credit)= $47500. Toyota RAV4 Prime XSE $ 47000 with dealer mark up. Or a year plus wait list with no guarantee. Mazda CX-9 signature $47000 and available. Lexus NX PHEV $59000 and available Most sensible would have been to wait for the new Toyota Prius but after watching Tesla drive off the cliff and all the passengers surviving… it was an easy choice. It’s a combination of speed, fun, safety, and savings on gas. I wouldn’t pay $65k plus for it, but under $50K it makes some sense.
The same exact reason why I bought my 2023 model Y. If it survived 250 foot cliff, I am gamed. Name a $50,000 suv that can do 0-60 under 5 seconds and get 40 mpg with top safety rating. I knew exactly that the fit and finish is shitty.
Cheap and glitchy is not how I would describe my model 3 that came out of china. It’s as solid as anything else on the road and after 80,000km still does not have one single rattle or squeak. I can’t say the same for my previous 17 cars which included Toyotas. I think they look great and just show how cheesy other cars really are. The model y is the best selling car in the world atm and Toyota themselves have referred to it as a masterpiece.
The Shanghai and Berlin build cars are very well made. I've looked over a few in detail and can't fault anything. I have a new BMW and would say they are easily on par with BMW build quality now.
@@timorum I've got a 2021 BMW M135i and the build quality isn't great. Next week I'm taking it in as the door rubber is hanging off. It has lots of squeaks and rattles also.
Great simple explanation of the heat pump, very much like a VRF (variable refrigerant flow) system used to heat and cool buildings by moving heat from areas that have too much to areas that need more, and vice versa, and may I say in a very elegant package. There is a lot of technology in the batteries and motors as well, oh and no CO2 or NOx out of a tailpipe.
Great review and love your channels (I'm a Toyota/Lexus nut - LX470, Supra). That said, I absolutely love my Tesla Model 3... the build quality can be variable but my '22 is solid, I kinda like the looks, the infotainment system is top notch, the autopilot system is a real quality-of-life improver for my long commute and that it just tears up the miles (over 20k in less than a year so far)...
The way you started gushing about the heat exchange system I thought "Here we go, another review that focuses on the one thing Tesla does really well and forgets that the rest of the car is more like a poorly assembled computer on wheels than a car..." Glad I stuck around for the rest, I have the exact sentiment, and I really, really tried to like Teslas... Drove Model S for a few months, tried Model X as well and both felt largely the same-as I was driving a supped-up Dacia Sandero for the price of a specced-up BMW 5 Series... Just couldn't get behind that.
Great review and I appreciate your knowledge and opinions about the vehicle. I have a 2023 Model Y on order and have test driven a few of them to date. It's been a long 2 years researching and deciding to make a purchase and we can't wait for ours to arrive. I personally love the look of the car inside and out. The software package of the vehicle IMO is superior to the big three motor companies and they are playing catch up for sure. You explained how the heating and cooling systems works and that makes me love the car even more, I am ok with small imperfections of the body and trim. I've owned many cars in my lifetime and every one has things that didn't work or just make you scratch your head and wonder why. Nice review overall thank you.
@@Michael-md9jg I drove electric for 10 years, never "ran out of gas" because the car charges every night at home. Never had to drive out of my way or lose hours of my life filling up gas, also haven't visited the garage for a "tune up" and "oil change". Imagine how people are okay with losing so much time in their lives.
Good review. Everyone is entitled to express thoughts on interior, but he is terribly mistaken on the build quality. Toyota did a tear-down of the model 3 when it came out. They died laughing at the build quality. Earlier this year they did a tear down of the 2023 Model Y (which I own) and declared it a work of art. Tesla is pioneering the Gigi casting technology which leads to fewer parts and a stronger vehicle. Apparently Toyota has some Gigi presses on order. The new Model Y came out with the highest values recorded in the Federal crash tests. The early model 3’s may have had poor build quality, but Tesla learns and implements fast, and are now pioneering automaker. They get things done while the Legacy are seeking approval. As far as fit and finish, before I took delivery on my car I checked out all of the areas pointed out as problematic and found no problems.
I have a feeling the quality issue is mainly for the ones from the Fremont plant. From reports overseas who get theirs from the Shanghai and Berlin plants, the fit and finish is on par with the major German brands. The Fremont plant is old and not optimized like the other plants so hoping the ones coming out of the Texas plant is better. Anyone got one from Texas please chime in on their experience.
Correct. I picked up my model 3 long range only a few weeks ago. Not a rattle to be heard, no panel gaps, no issues at all. I am in Australia and mine came from Shnaghai, I know of 3 others in my circle of friends who have Tesla's from Shanghai and all have no issues and put together exceptionally well. It does seem to be an issue from Freemont only.
I took delivery of a Fremont built Model Y and there were absolutely no issues with the car, the internet seems to love passing around opinions on which Tesla factory builds the best car. Kind of like Toyota owners comparing their North American built RAV4s with the Japan built RAV4 Prime!
He was talking about the material feel and the feel of the fake leather compared to other cars in the same price range with leather. The Model S is no where near BMW, Mercedes, or Lexus. So far Mercedes has the most luxurious EV as reviewed from an actual engineer in manufacturing. th-cam.com/video/mkR4DwWL6uc/w-d-xo.html
@@chrischapin2936 My Fremont MYLR (Feb, 2022 build) had zero quality issues as well so it is a thing of the past. Now the Model Y in this video looks to be a Performance model with 21" wheels and lowered suspension with will dramatically affect ride and stiffness, perhaps making a few rattles.
OLD Stuff! No rattles or squeaks on mine…you must be lucky Have you reviewed the new Model 3…that is the future! Model Y is not far behind. SUCH A ROOKIE!
Thank you for your expert assessment and opinions. I do agree the material and fit and finish of my 2023 MY and M3 is less than desire for the amount of money I’ve spent on them. That being said, I bought the Teslas for their technology and extensive supercharger networks. If Tesla spent more time and resources to improve the materials and fit and finish they wouldn’t be able to churn out cars fast enough to meet the demands and the cost would be even greater. Some compromises have to be made to get these cars out to the masses at the earliest time available. The traditional ICE auto industry spent 100 years refining the fit and finish of their automobiles but at the end of the day they are antiquated the moment they rolled off the assembly lines. The Tesla gets better features and performances through time via over the air software updates. That is a game changer.
OTA updates wasn’t mentioned here. This concept is not widely nor effectively practiced by car manufacturers generally, but Tesla is doing it very well. Most traditional cars don’t get free OTA software updates, you got to take it in for service and maybe you get an update. So a Tesla potentially improve in functionality and performance after you bought it. That cannot be said about other cars, not even other EVs eg BYD, MGs etc.
We’re hearing a lot from Tesla owners on here, of course you love the piece of crap. And yes, the engineering is amazing. I rode in one of these on an Uber trip, I’ll never get in one again. What garbage.
well... the model Y was 53K (now 55K). the average new car sold in the US is 48 or 49K. so while it is not cheap, it is just about average (should i mention rav4 prime average sold price is about the same thanks the dealer markups nation wide). with tax credit, the Y is about 45k and you know it is that price without needing to going to different dealership and negotiate the price. so if you follow the new car pricing, the Y isn't expensive by any means, unless you have anything else to compare to at least. in term of quality, yeap, still quite bad even in 2023. but with tesla you also get the auto pilot (the free one). i have many toyota cars and i must say... tesla's curise control puts all toyota to shame. what was toyota working on for the past 20 years in term of ease of use? and let's not forget the insane fast drive train. By no means do I imply your review is incorrect, but it is very much incomplete and frankly... That makes you very biased (which you are as Toyota mechanic). You made no mention of this vehicle in motion, either the ease of use ( herece people sleep at their driving wheels, try to do that with Toyota), or the instant power that put all Toyota in shame. Seriously, find a production Toyota that has 0 to 60 in less time than the slowest SUV Tesla offers. And ask yourself this: how much would Toyota charge if gr supra or gr corolla goes from 0 to 60 under 4 seconds?
I owned my Model 3 for a year now, only had 3 issues which were fixed by warranty. One was the frunk locking mechanism which reopens when I closes it, the other was a squeak when the steering is at a certain position due to the rubbing between the steering and the dashboard and the last is the squeak of both rear windows when opening which they claimed was due to a build up of dust, which I personally do not believe. Mine is the Shanghai build which has a far superior quality compared to the US build which is agreed by most people who has taken delivery here as we receive the Shanghai ones. I did inspect inch by inch on delivery day and did not find any panel gap or quality issues so it depends on what factory it will be coming out of which is not good but at least there's some hope for some people that not all Tesla build quality are horrible. If we did not get the Shanghai build models, I would be reluctant to get one as well given how many horror stories of issues with panel gaps and such. In terms of the interior design, I am the kind of person who likes minimalism which I find the design of the Tesla to be the best, so I would say this is personal preference rather than poor design, buttons to me are clutters and ugly, but if people do prefer them there will be other brands who are sticking to it so there's no reason why Tesla should change their interior for some people who may not like the minimalist look or find it difficult to use the touchscreen, which I do understand and find it sometimes difficult myself to adjust things while driving but that's where the software magic is at, with the superior voice control and now the newly added software update of multi function wheel control on the steering to adjust a dozen of things without needing to touch the screen at all. The handling and power is really good, I haven't own or driven a lot of cars but this is one of the best if not the best, I feel comfortable enough to take corners at high speed because of the weight distribution and handling is superior, the powertrain of course delivers more than one would require and I don't even feel comfortable driving at the normal (standard) setting because of the amount of power that throws you around when you step on the pedal is just wild, and I am only at the base model which is more than double the 0-100km/h time compared to a performance model. For people who like to have that kind of power, this is a fun thing to drive and while it would be inefficient, for the majority of us who are driving sensibly it would be very efficient as many reviewers have done comparison to other brands and Tesla is always coming up on top for how efficiently they can squeeze every bit of battery into the powertrain.
I drove a Tesla Model 3 in Greece a couple of days ago. I don't know where it was made but it was absolutely brilliant. No squeaks, no rattles, very fast and very comfortable. And it was just the RWD long range. I loved the simple interior, as many others have mentioned, it's much easier to clean (and to keep it clean) and you have far less things that can break (I guess mechanics that love taking advantage of clueless people, really hate that part). Also, the whole indicator stalk baffled me. Many car guys, especially the older ones, you are really dogmatic and stuck in the past, aren't you? If you ask any motorcycle rider like myself, we would tell you that we've been using Tesla-like indicators our whole lives on all the bikes that we've ever owned or ridden. They take very little space, they only require your thumb to operate, and they do not auto-cancel by accident mid-turn all-the-bloody-time like the stupid car indicators do when you make any minor adjustment while turning.
On the thermal management system, it even scavenges heat from the infotainment and autopilot computers which are also liquid cooled by the battery loop. If the heat pump is unable to scavenge enough heat, it will activate the front and rear drive inverters out-of-sync which creates a lot of additional waste heat for the heat pump. The car does not have any dedicated heaters.
What an awesome review. I am a tech guy and I appreciate your deeper dive into the cooling system and the follow up on build quality. A car is not like a phone; you live in it. You touch the surfaces, you feel the bumps, you breathe the air, you put things into the cup holders, the side handles, etc. And you do this for years, not months. After extensive research and considerations, I bought and owned a Toyota Mirai (a hydrogen-electric vehicle). THAT was a beautifully executed electric car that also has a luxurious interior with great fit & finish and real car amenities (including real buttons). It's a Lexus under the Toyota badge. Anyway, it has its own struggles with Infrastructure, but that's a whole different story. After 3 yrs of ownership, I moved on (only because it was totaled in an accident). I recently shopped for a new car and looked long and hard at Tesla Y and X. I ultimately went to a gasoline GV70 as I felt EV infrastructure is not where it needs to be, especially when I don't have a dedicated garage to nicely charge it every night. Once I do, I'll seriously consider EVs again. I love that smooth, quiet driving-on-air experience of the Mirai. You are right, Tesla tech is beyond everyone else's. They should just license it to real car makers and continue to innovate on the EV drive train and software front. Let real car builders build the rest. Wait until Toyota comes out with solid state batteries. That will be the revolution the EV industry needs. For now, Tesla's 4680 Li-Ion battery is it (years ahead of competition). Please do a deep dive review of the gasoline GV70. 🙏
You hit the nail on the head. If you have a covered garage where you can charge your car every day, an EV makes sense. Otherwise, you are better off with a gas car. I say this as a happy model Y owner.
@@AlanMyronPrivate i have a covered garage...but i don't have a charger. That said...I live in area where there are 2 super charger places, and every whole foods has free charging and some of the public garages that are free for 90 min have chargers.
Thanks for a great and detailed review. However, one thing that I did not hear about was that the Tesla cars are all the safest cars. In my opinion, this is a very important detail to include in your reviews. Thanks again.
I respect your opinions so much. And I never laughed so much while watching a car review. You nailed it 100% about this car. Refreshing to see someone who tells it like it is about Teslas and indeed every other car you’ve reviewed Thanks a million / go raibh maith agat. And yes I have learned something new, thanks to you.🙏
I have been doing mobile AC for over 30 years and that heat pump system is by far the best engineering I have ever seen period
Yup, being a more modular single unit, I fully expect a third party to remanufacture them in a few years, making for an easy swap in case they fail. Unlike Ford where they dont even have a heat pump but still have pieces of the system and hoses everywhere.
Yes, Absolute best explanation on the net 🏆
@@GROGU123 exactly also parts work with the semi and plaid model s/x so it keeps the part stock to a min
And then we have Audi removing heatpumps from their setup. This is where Tesla engineering really shines. I like the Munro Live videos on this topic
Munro live has a much better video about the ocoto Value a few years ago. This is a good summer for people who no idea have a heat pump works thou.
“My humble education” dude you explained the physics of this car so well and for anyone to understand. Thank you and you sir are a genius.
He’s ridiculous. I mean what person would twist an interior door handle like that to elicit a sound he doesn’t like just for show. If honestly you take what he says seriously, I got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. 🤦🏼♂️
@@mathieubarquerre7420 The example is just way out there.
I’ve worked around cars for 35 years including at Car and Driver, in racing, at a car dealership, consulting to Motor Trend and consulting to major manufacturers. I’ve definitely seen it all.
That crap is way over the top. Anyone can do that on ANY car and claim it’s a “fault” of the car/manufacturer. When really it’s the fault of the one guy twisting the car’s interior door handle in a way 99.99% of car owners never do.
Happens when people WANT to complain about something they have a “bone to pick” with. It’s not a real experience to the vast, vast majority of people.
@@GBSamsonut you cant deny those gaps exists...only a noob wont notice .
@@GBSamsonand youre all over the place with your handle twisting comment 😂...try a new tack..it might get some air in your sails
@@mannyfernandez6860 You ever look at other makes? They all have gap and fit and finish problems unless it’s hand built like Rolls Royce. A noob won’t notice anything.
As one who services his own cars, I'm more impressed with, no brake jobs; oil, coolant and filter changes; no starter, alternator, spark plug, O2 sensor or catalyst breakdowns.
How often do you rally have to change starters, alternators O2 sensors? Only once in 150k miles for me
Same with me. I own a 2015 BMW with about 115K miles on it and do practically all my own maintenance.
I would love to ditch oil/filter changes, buying gas, gaskets and seals breaking deteriorating, spark plug changes and all other maintenance involved with ICE cars. 🙏🏾
I only average about 250 miles of driving over 2 weeks too so charging at my house which is solar would be great. It’s a no brainer to go EV for me. I know it’s not for everyone. Can’t deny the future.
most people missed the point on EV, convenience under the """conditions""" - home charging, less than the range per day, not much road trips per year, price < $60k, minimum maintenance. If you meet this condition, it's so good. 5 years of ownership, zero problem. yes, you can argue some maintenance on ICE car is nothing. OK, how about skipping the gas station trips everyweek? If this time saving doesn't matter, your choice. EV is not for everyone.
@@ballathug8404 twice on a 96 Toyota way before150,000 miles.
I suppose newer cars don't have this problem.
Last but not least, smug check in most state, not bad.
I own a Model Y. It doesn't rattle, squeak, no parts fall off of it, the seats are very comfortable, the AC/heat works really well, and it's a pleasure to drive. I've driven BMWs and Mercedes in the same price class, and I'd trade the Tesla drive performance and system for a luxury facade any day.
When I first bought my Toyota hybrid I said that it would take a lot for me to go back to plain ICE cars.
I drove a Tesla 3 RWD Long Range and a BYD Dolphin last weekend and it feels like my Toyota is a dinosaur now 🤣🤣🤣
I bought the based MY HW4 just 4 months ago and already done over 7000 km. It's the best vehicle I've driven, period. The handling is better than the go-kart like Mini Cooper S Turbo that I upgraded from. The best way to describe driving a MY is like discovering a sharp knife after using all dull knives your entire life.
Edit: my MY is made in China, that's probably why it has a better built than the one in this review. 😂
@@charliequach6399 what's a MY HW4?
@theodorev666 it's short hand for Model Y Hardware 4. I think you need at least HW4 for your Tesla to be autonomous. So the promise Musk made years ago that all Tesla can be autonomous from the factory, even with HW3, could be a bit of a lie. Unless in the future, they can optimize HW3 for fully autonomous somehow.
I am looking into buying a Tesla soon . What’s the highest level Tesla off of the ground . I can’t get into a low profile car . Bad knees . What does Tesla make that’s not too low to the ground ?
I've watched dozens of Tesla reviews, and this is the first review that touched on what's under the hood and the practicalities. Thank you, i'm a big fan especially on the Lexus and Toyota reviews.
Yes! That was an excellent introduction to the complex energy management system. I guess it is definitely state of the art… or better [if that’s possible]. This video definitely drove that point home. Previously, I was unaware of the complexity and genius associated with the thermodynamic ‘side’ of Tesla vehicles. 32:56
Toyota and Lexus need to get their crap together on EVs. They prepared customers for EVs and then decided not to make them. 16% of Tesla’s customers are former Toyota owners.
Munro Live has done an even more in depth review of several Tesla’s especially the model Y.
@@Conservator.Munro and associates does a much better job than this. This was terrible.😂
It’s called, SPACEX. This is what you get when the best space engineers in the world meet with the best software engineers in the world.
What is extremely impressive is that the two electric heaters that heat the coolant are actually the electric motors. They tune the timing of the magnetic field in the motor so that it is less efficient and uses more energy thus creating more heat.
And it makes a very cool sound while driving when it's running in the heater mode.
You should do the same evaluation of BYD
@@johnq6361Pretty much impossible to get a BYD in the U.S.
They are rubbish that's your evaluation @@johnq6361
That is one way. The new Model 3 uses the heat from a compressor to make the heat pump work when it is very cold... Chief engineer has been doing a lot of interviews lately...
best car reviewer on youtube. no frills, like a lecture done by an academic level ( not boring type) explanation, seeing channels like this take over bring joy to my heart.
Yeah if you like biased ICE cars are the best kind of reviews, then this guy is it. Basically another scotty kilmer
His complaints are typical voom vroomer nonsense
Teslas look like Saturn cars from the 90s. The result of one man dictating the design.
@@bkparque No, they clearly are not. He expounds clearly and thoroughly on the thermal management capability, which he states early and often that he is very impressed by. But Musk also made a big deal out of redesigning manufacturing and how his cars were going to have better builds for less money - and as he also pointed out, the fit and finish of these cars in their price class is equally clearly not up to standards. I thought his comment that Musk would be better off licensing the innovations to car companies that know how to build them well was excellent. Maybe Musk could then dedicate his spare time to figuring out how to build a colony on Mars once his rockets can get people there.
@@xlr8also Yup. Had two Saturns. Loved 'em both.
I have 2022 Model 3, both my daughters have 2022 Model Y 's. The build quality on all 3 cars is excellent. No squeaks or rattles, very good panel gaps. The difference is that we live in the UK and the cars were built in Shanghai.
Me too love this car
Chinese work harder than Americans
Didn’t realise UK cars are built in China….
@@Himoutdoors some model Ys here in Canada are also shipped directly from Shanghai, why act surprised?
I guess I assumed they all came from the states
I'm not an engineer but I have had a Tesla Model 3 for 5 years. I am 60 and I have never driven a car that drives and handles so well (including premium brands). Rattles and squeaks? Not in my car, perhaps mine is the exception. Zero maintenance, no more gas stations, quiet, comfortable premium driving experience. But what do I know, I only have 5 years every day experience of Tesla.
I agree I have a model 3 21 yes to fit and finish is not like a Mercedes or Bentley and honestly I don't need 150 buttons in my car.. I like that it's so simple.. but yet so advance. I don't have any creaky noises 😂
Exaclly
You might have problem with your ears 😂
I agree. Model Y owner for 2 years now and haven’t had any of those issues either
I agree as well It’s very quiet however with a big asterisk people don’t understand that because these cars are heavy that they require a stiffer suspension therefore the ride can be a bit harsh but not to the point people tend to exaggerate
I have a 21 model y and it’s the best car I ever had. Went from a Mercedes ml 350 which gave me nothing but problems. Windshield leak- $400 just to diagnose. Transfer case went out- $4500.
Poor comparison…everyone knows Mercedes is junk.
After warranty I wouldn't go back to the Benz dealer. The good mechanics get some training there, then go out on their own. So you're paying to train novices.
Good lord! Wow.
European Junkies after 100 k .. it has an issues with too many sensors… cost arm & leg when bring it to dealer
We had no issues with Lexus & Honda…
@@thibui765 Have a toyota carola 2010 has just under 220 thousand miles standerd trans have changed tires, oil changes, one battery and just did front brakes at 200 thousand miles new the car cost 17 thousand. Would not spend the money they want on a battery opp. car.
Bro, where were you all this time? Why didn't you come in my life earlier? I'm so happy to have found a single channel I can come to for a full 360 degree review. Totally unbiased and value adding. Thanks man. Keep up the good work!
Great software with poor fit & finish.
Horrendous? Are you serious? As the best selling car in the world period and having the highest brand loyalty of any car it sounds like you are wrong.
Car mechanic looking into the future and not seeing a lively hood … equals negative review
it is his opinion and on this one I disagree with it.
@@rosspatterson44gas cars are gonna be around for a very long time and they’ll probably outlive him
An honest review done by someone who actually knows how cars work. 99% of other car "reviewers" wouldn't know where to begin if they wanted to remove the frunk lining to see what's inside the car.
Points raised about build quality and the materials are a very valid. I would also add the weird design of the wheels - you are guaranteed to damage them. The car isn't cheap so people should expect something else. I don't know what the profit margin on the MY is but M3 was something around 25% which is a lot. Some of this money could be redirected into improving the interior. I hope "Juniper" will be a big step forward since, like you said, other car manufacturers will eventually catch up.
With that being said, I would rather have a car with awesome tech and cheap interior rather than the other way round.
This dude is a shill who bashes cars he sees as a threat to a mechanic business. A Tesla will be in the shop aft less than most cars on the road and he hates them for that. He's not an engineer either and has no understanding of the term "usability" Tesla are the easiest daily drivers. Period. He said he speaks for the rest of the world but the average person desires a Tesla and the best selling car last year was a Model Y.
Yes, the I was surprised at how easily the wheels can be damaged on my Model 3. However, having rented SEVERAL 2023-2024 cars including a Hyundai Sante Fe, a Toyota RAV 4, a Nissan Rogue and a Nissan Murano. While the Sante Fe and Murano had slightly more plush interiors, they weren't really better. The touch screens in all of those ICE cars were cheap, buggy and frustrating to use compared to the Model 3. There was a LOT of plastic in all of these cars. The Santa Fe had softer, but not better seats and the door and dashboard trims were similar. So, clearly you don't know what you are talking about when you say that the Model 3 interior is "cheap."
The one fault of the Model 3 is that it does have road noise, but it is about the same as the ICE cars I have rented. The Toyota RAV 4 had atrocious road noise, and the Nissan Rogue and Murano had similar road noise. The Santa Fe was a little better.
The other criticism of the Model 3 is its firm ride. But considering it is as fast a several Porsche models, it makes sense that it should have sports car tuned suspension.
Regardless, the 2024 Model 3 addressed all of these issues and it is one of the most luxurious cars on the road right now. You have to go into six-figure cars to get better interiors.
The new Model Y, Juniper, will probably have the same improvements as the 2024 Model 3. Also, it is probable that the Model Y will have next generation batteries that will give it 500 - 600 mile range. If so, it will be the best car made bar none, and Tesla is going to sell them like hot cakes.
Yeah I was tired of having Scotty yell at me
99% = Tesla fanboys
The thing is, it's not a cheap interior, the whole thing is cheap. Plus, repairability is a nightmare, Tesla truly is the Apple of cars
I have owned a '22 Model 3P for about a year and a half now and I love it. It's not perfect - the interior rattles (intermittenly) more than probably anything else in its price range, and the paint quality could be better...but other than that, it's so enjoyable to own and drive and so easy to live with. I don't think I'd want to go back to ICE.
I’ll never go back to ICE
There are other EV options in Tesla price ranges that have much, much better build quality and other car things (and arguably the looks), it's not Tesla or ICE anymore. If I was buying an automotive heat exchange system / battery management, sure, I'd get one from Tesla Motors, but when buying a car other things matter as well.
@@zwerko Tesla has been at it the longest and has the biggest, most reliable charging network. That's a huge selling point for many, but less of an issue now that they are allowing other mfr's to use the SC's. To each his/her own.
@@zwerko charging network is the most important aspect to me when buying a EV and no other auto maker has a charging network like Tesla.
Found out what that rattling is - it isn't actually inside the interior - it is coming from the frunk. There is a video about it on YT someone created. It is clips on this large plastic piece. Might be missing clips or loose ones... Funny thing is - found similar issue with my partners Mazda and fixed it as well. Please hope you see this...
Good and fair review. I purchased Long range model with smaller wheels in March 2023 and so far so good.
Cons:
- very minimal maintenance
- cheap to operate so far (saved a lot of $$$ on gas)
- very smart (route planning, always ready for set departure schedule, garage opener, Apple music, video integration, etc.)
- quick when need it (the ride on 19” wheels is similar to other vehicles, 21” is rough)
- smooth power delivery (I like it better than gas vehicles)
- pretty good sound system
- sentry/dash cam
- plenty of storage space
- easy to charge at home and plenty of charging locations
- kids love it the most
Cons:
- have to be mindful of efficiency because driving over 75 mph on highway or constant crazy acceleration decreases range
- some parts are manufactured using cheap material
- no spare tire
Cons x 2 😅
My model 3 has the heat pump and when its cold and its siting outside it takes literally no time at all to heat the inside of the car its crazy fast.
This is the best overall review I’ve seen so far for a Tesla . I learned more about Tesla in 20 minutes than I’ve known for the last 3 years of driving one. A very comprehensive review of a most complex vehicle. Thank you.
Except for not keeping up with the improvements in manufacturing. Which others have mentioned.
@@tedmoss Yes, the latest ones are even worse. Ask me how I know.
Actually simpler than an internal combustion engine. Don’t confuse new engineering with complex engineering. It’s not German over engineered madness. Nothing to maintain. I don’t want one because electric cars run on coal which is just silly.
An internal combustion engine is a marvel of complexity especially with all the emissions nonsense added.
@@BeefNEggs057 (a) Not all grids are powered by coal; increasingly few are. (b) EVs are much more efficient than ICE, so even running off coal-generated electricity, the amount of CO2 generated is less.
Well, it is now Aug 2023 and I have really changed my mind about Tesla vehicles.
Matter of fact, I now own the 2023 model Y long range vehicle. Great Vehicle, simple to operate, and has all the features I would ever need. It only took 3 weeks to get the vehicle once I ordered it. The more I watched videos on the Model Y, the more I liked it.
I wanted the Long Range Model Y because of the dual motors AWD, the sentry/dashcams built into the vehicle, the hatchback style, and the simplicity of operating the vehicle. Really don't need all the buttons and dials - and I use the voice commands to operate many of the features. The navigation system is outstanding and setting up routes are quick and easy.
I changed my mind about the GM vehicles because going to dealerships and dealing with the sales people - Tesla buying system is very easy and no haggles. The long wait times to even get a vehicle from GM, and the Chevy vehicles do not even come close to having all the features I like and want that are on my Tesla model Y.
So that is about it for now. Take care.
Yes. I respect AMD. He's clearly a really nice and honorable man. But it's clear he and people like Scotty... I mean, fixing cars is their livelihood. So what do you expect? lol. Of course they're going to have issues with them. The ICE is what they love/do.
Of course a Chevy wouldn't have the features of a Tesla, they are much cheaper cars. And yet you wouldn't know it by looking at the interiors
I’m glad you came around to liking Tesla. A lot of people simply hate them to be cool or mainstream. They’re great cars! Love my Model 3 2022 RWD!
just wait to see the issues when you are closed to o full reach the warranty mile expiration, everything falls apart, and no one services Teslas other than Tesla, so you might spend the big bucks. hopefully you aren't putting high miles on the tesla, so will last for a few years of happiness.
@@jakeko That is all misinformation. lol
Didn't realise their heat pump design was so unique. Thanks for the deep dive !
I’m happy with my 2018 Tesla Model 3. Best car I’ve ever owned (had a Chevy Bolt for a while). I even like the way it looks.
Same here M3 LR 2018…love the minimalism. Love 100 plus voice commands. My fit and finish is just fine. Ez to retro so much as a DIY.
Good for u but I think they look so God awful. Not aggressive or cool at all. Looks like a mall cop car.
Same for me. My 2018 M3LR is the best car I've ever owned.
Translation- you like/buy crap cars
Driving model S for 9 years. 240k miles. This is excellent reviewer.
with good sense of humor...
How has it held up? I’m considering a Tesla but have been pretty resistant until recently. Are you on the original battery? Any other issues? How has Tesla been to deal with as a company?
@@runnikee6986
Original battery was replaced at 65k, not fatal but Tesla just decided to replace it. Initially told me it will be fixed.
I have original motors.
Door handles were disaster, total 8 replaced, nowadays seems to be Ok.
Overall, i am very positive and would consider buying model s again. Used one…
Model 3 and y could be different story.
This car is for someone who does a lot of driving due to cheap operating cost. ( electricity is not taxed yet), maintanace is cheaper due to less moving parts, I did brakes only once, after 120k. If you are looking for perfect interior- this is not for you. In my case, i like simplicity.
Big screen with gps makes life much easier on daily basis along with effortless acceleration. Not from 0-60 but 60-90. During long trips it is less tiring.
I just bought a 24 model 3 performance. All I can say is wow!
@@runnikee6986Honestly, if I were you I wouldn’t, look at something else. The build quality is just woeful, everything there is nasty. I agree with this reviewer, the teslas are brilliant in so many ways but where they are bad just outstrips the good. I even went and looked at a new 6th month 2024 Tesla, it was horrendous at best. Yes, goes like the showers of shit but a really truely horrible drive. I’m not anti ev or anti Tesla, I just wish they’d get with it but they haven’t, they have no plan to. Junk.
The front is to reduce drag. They look the same to reduce drag. For range improvement.
Wow I never knew that.
Correct. Some of the best (lowest) drag coefficients in the industry
And I thought it was to kill bugs.
I live in Phoenix with lows in the high 20's and highs around 110-115 and not had any problems with my 2021 Tesla Model Y long range. Yes a bit of range degradation of a few percent, but nothing that made me change my driving habits. The assembly of the vehicle is more like an aircraft to save weight, but you forgot to mention that the car is rated as the safest car on the road by NTSB.
Yeah because it's so heavy it basically crushes everything that it hits. Safe for the user but very unsafe for everyone else around it.
@@itsbtunes True thanks to that big ol' heavy battery that sometimes explode for no reason
@@itsbtunes There are many ICE cars heavier than a Model Y. The Model Y weighs 4,500 pounds. Something like a Toyota 4Runner weighs 4,400 pounds (up to 4,800 on some trims). The safety comes from a huge crumple zone in the front of the vehicle due to no engine sitting in the front and the batteries sitting underneath the car.
Check out the news on the tesla with family that went off a 100' drop of a cliff and everyone survived
@@markwilliams6378 please link these explosions, love the misinformation hate cause it is different. Then while you are at it, look up the car fire rates/Million miles per car statistics that are nicely complied by several agencies.
Hey TCCN Auto! I'm not too far from you guys :) Thanks for the review and your thoughts. Just want to point out a few things to help out some of your viewers. I have ridden in many Teslas over the years, and own a few currently. What I can say about the build quality is this: Yes, Tesla is a new company and they do not have their manufacturing all ironed out quite yet...BUT...that does not mean that ALL Teslas are bad. There is certainly a handful that leaves the factory with panel gaps and rattles. Many do not. The reason that the Model Y looks like a tall Model 3 is because of its economies of scale. The Model Y shares 70% of the exact same parts as the Model 3, so they can build more of them faster and cheaper. Also, you've got a good eye...the stalks and window switches come directly from the Mercedes parts bin. Speaking of the interior, there is a reason for the minimalist interior, and it's a genius move. They purposely put all of the "buttons and switches" on the center touchscreen so they can be upgraded via free over-the-air software updates. In 10 years from now, a 2023 Honda Civic will still have its physical buttons where they were placed in the factory, so whatever design fad was going on in 2023 will still be there. It will look dated in 10 years. On this Tesla, they can upgrade the user interface of the screen...move buttons to better locations...change the size or color of them...the sky's the limit. It will still look modern in 10 years thanks to the software updates. Lastly, the "cheapness" that you're feeling isn't just a Tesla thing. I go to the Chicago Auto Show every year and look at all the latest cars, especially EVs. I sat in every EV there last year, and none of them were as nice as my Tesla. The cheap, hard plastics in the Hyundai, Kia, Subaru, Nissan...you name it...just weren't good. The BMW EVs were nicer to the touch, but the electronics and UI of their screen were simply inferior. Don't even get me started on 3rd party charging networks for other brands to use. Tesla is the total package. By the way, I consider myself a car guy first. I still own gas cars too, but I really love driving my EVs. Great video, thanks for sharing!
Hyundai and Kai is easily nicer than tesla. Lmao tesla fanboy
@@mikev4634they are solid efforts but their range and efficiency compared to the size of their batteries is inferior compared to Tesla. They also cannot be updated over the air as easily and they need 3rd party charging which is much less reliable. So why would you pay as much or more for a car with inferior tech, range, ability to upgrade and substandard charging infrastructure?
@@mikev4634 brother I wasn’t a Tesla fanboy until AFTER I bought the car. The car is so good it turned me into one. Before I bought mine, the car I wanted so bad was the Kia Stinger. I was obsessing over that car…until I sat in one. I just couldn’t get over paying that much for such a cheap interior. All the touch points were hard plastic, and it felt just like their budget cars. So I decided to buy American! Tesla is the most American built car in the world.
You are absolutely right, that’s why Tesla is making money on each car it sells while others break even or loose money.
I find that car reviewers are using traditional car standards while reviewing EVs. Not to long ago, a car with 300 hp, leather seats, and a good sound system had the total package. EVs have changed everything.
Your attention to detail is WHAT I LIVE FOR - my attention to detail is insane so I appreciate your perspective SO MUCH. Cannot wait to watch all of your videos!!!
But he doesn’t criticize the cheapest interiors on the planet, Toyota’s.
@@tomdurkinsdacias are even worse
I love this guy on the way he explain things on any video, very clear and very professional, but with knowing all these “bad” things about Tesla, I still went and bought the latest 2023 MYLR, and I will make sure no gaps and rattles are with me period, before I head home from Service Center
I accidentally stumbled upon your channel and love your reviews. I’m at the end of the lease of my 2020 Model Y. I agree with many points you’d mentioned. I’m growing tired of it’s interiors and researching for my next car. However, Tesla is still in my candidate list. To the point of poor interiors, I just want to point out that for a car start-up like Tesla, it is very important to make some critical decisions on pricing and profit margins. If Tesla goes full luxury, they either have to increase the vehicle price or shrink the margin. For all of Tesla’s intents and purposes, they want to push as many cars out as possible. So I don’t blame them for cheap interiors. But at the end of the day, consumers do really care about business. They just want something they think is valuable to them, whatever that is.
But for me, I do find myself driving like a hooligan in my Tesla ( not blaming Tesla, just a confession.) 😂
Elon doesn't care. He already said that plain bland look is what he was going for. There are so many people that already like it with the non-luxury feel so why would Tesla change it? Most people don't have a clue how the interior should look for the price they're paying. I think the seats are too narrow in the model Y and I'm not fat.
It's the capital investment too. Tesla puts these vehicles together in 8-10 hours on the line. VW's 30 hours was an amazing feat that the industry loved to see and hear...It does mean it will be missing things other cars have but it is mostly in the name of saving weight, money, time on the line, parts, etc...
I agree on the margin. 4 months after your comment we've recently had news that VW is struggling to sell EVs and considering layoffs. Why? I think it's because in Europe we're suffering from notably higher electricity prices, and higher interest rates which has affected the financial benefits of switching. Tesla's high efficiency means that they are better value at the same price, and the low cost of production means they can lower prices and still make a profit selling everything they can make.
@@whattheschmidtid4 range sucks like the Lexus EV
Tesla had plenty of margin, how could they drop the prices of the high end by 30-35K ?
I work in HVAC and this is pretty damn cool. We have a system very similar to this, but on a much larger scale.
The handle is designed to use your thumb to push it while at the same time you grab the handle with that hand. One hand action dude.
Can't believe I only just discovered your channel now. Your reviews are the best on youtube, professional, honest, no fluff and to the point. Respect!!
He’s ridiculous. I mean what person would twist an interior door handle like that to elicit a sound he doesn’t like just for show. If honestly you take what he says seriously, I got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. 🤦🏼♂️
Very fair and honest review! We watched this review prior to purchase, and was very skeptical of Tesla's quality. However, we were in the market for an electric car because we already have at-home charging setup done by the previous owners of the house. We test drove the Mach-E, Kia EV6, VW ID4, and the Model Y. Surprisingly, the Model Y had the best build quality, and according to the salesguy (Alex), the models built during the pandemic were terrible quality (late 2020 to early 2023). FWIW, the Ford and the Kia had horrific build quality; there were so many issues with panel gaps and plastics falling apart that we were honestly shocked. However, the new ones built at the Austin factory were significantly better. Our other vehicle is a 2022 Lexus RX350, and to be honest, I haven't had the best luck with it. We took it back to the dealer multiple times due to rattling and squeaks all over the place. So far, we put over 1K miles on the Tesla, and it's been way better than the Lexus in the first month of ownership. Time will tell for sure though.
In my opinion, electric cars are not for me, they are all ugly, and I drive 600 miles daily, an electric car is useless, from an electric to a hyd, the hyd is better 1000 times.
@@carlosaragon5103EVs are good for city commute, running errands and short trips.
Long trips? Gas cars for sure unless EVs have longer ranges.
@@carlosaragon5103do you do Uber or Lyft for work? How do you manage 600 miles daily? Crazy.
I think your comment is fair. Tesla's quality is not as bad as the host said. I compared it to my the other car, MB GLC, MB also has panel gap issue
@@carlosaragon5103 What do you do for work that would require 600 miles a day? I have 2 friends that drive full time for Uber/Lyft, and on an insanely busy day of driving people to the airport (like Thanksgiving week), they're clocking in at 350 miles. Even long-haul trucking at a max of 11 hours/day typically averages to be 400 miles daily.
I've had my Tesla for over two years. Your opinions are all valid! Panel gaps, build quality, and non-sensical things are alongside some absolutely brilliant things and some of the best car software ever written. If the entire car was dumbed down, I'd accept manual things (making the car cheaper). It does seem they didn't put ANY money into some things that matter. Efficiency matters most, so they put their money there.
I agree with most of your assessment, the door handles (interior and exterior) consistently confuse my passengers. How easy would it have been to put in some generic, reliable handles? Sure, it adds complexity and more potentially breakable components versus a single button, but I'm willing to accept that.
Thank you for your review! Subbed! I look forward to many more!
Tesla has fixed those issues. Funny how you didn't mention that
Tesla trying to cash in asap before real car manufacturers get into the game. Quality not a priority!
Tesla was designed to feel different as Apple wanted their products to look and feel different than what they were....personal computers. A Tesla car is still a car...with four rubber tires, steering wheel, pedals and some cushy seats....like Starbucks is still, after all the froth and wierd hip counterstaff, a cup of coffee.
In doing so Tesla had become the 90s BMW/Mercedes with some quirky differences just to be different. That comes with price and pricey monopoly service. That's fine for the first line of buyers who were people that babied their cars, polished and fed them daily, looked at them adoringly and would pay the price for their metal baby.
A lot of what they do, probably 70% is just good engineering. 30% is just trying to be different for difference sake.
The original simplicity and ease of maintenance argued by the original EV providers like Nissan, just flew out the window when Tesla got going. These are extremely complex and mechanical appliances now. The same thing happened over time with ICE cars, once simple like a lawn mower, now extremely complex.
A pleasure and pride for their owners...except when something goes wrong...then they're just a damned car.
People seem to miss what the exterior door handles are about. Its about air turbulence. The handles are flush with the door for efficiency. Not sticking out, not recessed, flush just like things on a airplane. This is why there is no "generic reliable handles"
I do agree the handles are confusing for new users. I understand the design though. They have combined the button push with the presentation of the handle without using any electronics (like on the other models). I wished they would had done something similar to Ford though. A button that unlatches a door, then a spring to push the door far enough out to get your hand behind. More intuitive but not as pretty.
@@daviddabo2682 "Reel" car makers don't make real cars and are not a real threat to real Tesla cars.
I wonder if your opinion has changed after the price drops. For me its just practical, and for 30k its pretty worth it. Charging at home, its the perfect everyday car.
Running ac in the summers puts my electric bill at worst was 800$ a month roughly I couldn't imagine how it would be also charging a car. I think it works for people in the right area or have solar. The way California keeps raising electric price and now there's consideration of tax charging electric vehicles by the miles since they don't get taxed in gas I feel like the saving cost you get with a electric vehicle is slowly fading away. The world doesn't want you to save money lol they just wanted everyone to get sucked into the electric vehicles and now they're looking for ways to make money off you since they're proven to be efficient which is bad for businesses.
@@devins1495 ive been charging mine at local pasadena city sponsored fast chargers near my house for 0.15 cents a kw. And the super chargers near me have a night rate of 0.27 kw. So right now my public charging is cheaper than my home electricity. Cost me about 6 bucks to fill the tank once a week. Occasionally i get to charge at work for free which is nice. I dont have solar but i dont think my charging would be too crazy. Looks like im only using about 170-200kw a month on driving. So even if i charged at home i would still stay in the cheaper electric bracket. Except for the two months a year we need AC like you mentioned. My electric bill right now tops at $300 in the peak months. In a 2 bedroom condo. I just went and filled my wifes prius up with gas and it was $35, the same driving in my tesla would cost about $10. The savings are definitely there right now
I purchased my M3P purely for the performance. It meets my needs exactly. I view all the fine points and luxury features of other cars as unnecessary fluff. I certainly can understand how it may fall short for many buyers, but for me it's close to automotive perfection. I love the technology, it's simplicity of operation, and economy. Everyone is different.
when people threaten by something they will neat pick at it like this guy did. BEV don't need him in the future
@@musk-eteer9898 Yup, he is a gas mechanic and his bias clearly showed.
@@leerjet18 why should he be worried? These will definitely need repairs. And gas cars aren’t going anywhere anytime soon, as much as you would like them to.
@@musk-eteer9898 you people know absolutely nothing about cars. There’s a lot more to a gas car than just the engine just like there’s a lot more to an EV than just the battery and motors. You have suspension, brakes, body hardware etc…he’s gonna be fixing all these things in the future when they fail so he’s not going anywhere.
@@leerjet18 I don't know. I've seen a lot of his reviews and to me he just tells it like he sees it. Me, why pay that much money for a car and it's not going up in value. I just can't wrap my head around it 😂🤣😂. Save your money and invest in real estate my friend 👍 and you're be set for life. Remember you can't take it 6' under with you. So why not enjoy it while you above ground?🤔? Just a thought. Have a great weekend my friend 👍
I use my model Y for ride share and usually the first thing people say upon entering the car and seeing the interior is wow this is a really nice car! Personally I don’t miss having a hundred confusing buttons everywhere and prefer the clean clutterless feel. I like the majority of owners have no panel gap issues or poor build quality issues. So in sort his feelings about the build and design is just his opinion.
BS
@@bobbybishop5662 i have a 2023 September California build..same wheels, and colors. 0 panel gap issues...100% 0 rattles.
@@videosuperhero100 good for you
Besides the fact of continual improvement.
I've had a Model 3 for 2.5 years. The most enjoyable car I've ever owned. My last three were 750iX, LS460, and CLS550. I agree that it's a cardboard box but it's fast, smooth, and does most of the driving for me when I am tired. I've never enjoyed driving this much or not driving at times. I've had the service guy out to my driveway half a dozen times to fix rattles and things, and it's a great process for me and those issues have been resolved to my satisfaction. Based on my preferences, there is no better car at the Model 3 price point. I might feel differently about the S or X at the price point of my previous cars. This is less than half the price, much less than half the cost to operate, and orders of magnitude more enjoyable, for me.
I actually enjoy driving in traffic 🤣
My last car was the Lexus ls460 and ls430 now I have a model 3 and Y. Plus a gx460
Happy!
That is unless you keep it long enough to need to buy a new battery....just about all of your previous energy "savings" are then vaporized in an instant.
@@halc.2899 We shall see once these model 3's and Y's have been around for 10+ years. They say they should last 200-300k miles which seems pretty good to me. Even then, they still work, but the overall mileage on full charge will be less than when brand new. If you had to replace the battery at 100k miles then I would agree with you, but there's no proof that it will be the case. These batteries are a bit more advanced than what's in your smart phone. By the way, 8 yr 150k mile warranty on battery with 70% battery retention on all Teslas.
@@halc.2899 Batteries are rebuildable. Engines crap out too...even more frequently. You just fix or rebuild them. What's the diff?
I really like the handling. I guess the appeal is mostly the experience itself; everything just works seamlessly. It does what you want, when you want it, all the time. you never have to work around the machine. You get in, put it in gear and go. no fumbling with keys, no vibration, no noise. you get heat right away, you don't have to wait for an engine to warm up. you can even ask it to pre heat or pre cool before you get to the car. you can floor it right away, you don't have to worry about a cold engine. When you DO floor it you always get the full go, you don't have to write a letter to the transmission asking for permission to do a pass and hoping it gets back to you in time. you can do short trips, you don't have to worry about it not coming up to temp just to move it around the yard. When you're done you just get out and go, it shuts down & locks on its own. you never go out of your way to get a top up, you just plug it in overnight and start every day off with however much range you need.
Driving as first owner a 2009 Prius now at 316.000 km still able to achieve an 750+km on a 45l tank that amounts to some 400 to 500 kWh (depending on the source you use for that conversion) However a Tesla Y LR achieve some 480km on about 70kWh. That is a shocking difference in overall efficiency.
That difference in efficiency is non-existent when you consider the thermodynamics of electricity generation. Renewables as well...
yeah imagine the range when EV's start getting 120+ kwh batteries someday.
I obviously live in a different world. I think the design outside and inside is brilliant. I have a Fremont 2022 Model Y that came PERFECT from the plant.
I disagree - one went by me yesterday. It’s basically a Corolla sized vehicle that’s worse built. If it was priced a bit less than a Corolla I’d be ok with that. No way the luxury pricing makes sense.
@@mkyhou1160 id rather crash inside a Tesla Y than a Corolla as I actually want to live. The build quality of the decorative panels is way below safety in terms of priority for almost everyone except for some folks like you
People who are into MINIMALISM will love this car. It's almost the anti-car since its the antithesis of all cars that came before it. Except the wheels of course.
@@Supreme_Lobster it recently took 8 hours or put out a Tesla fire. But yeah, all small autos suck in accidents with larger ones, just physics.
Also have a 2022 Fremont Model Y and it’s assembly and details are perfect. Couldn’t imagine owning anything else
I've looked at literally dozens of reviews of the Tesla Model Y and this has one of the most unique points made by far. Thanks so much for your insightful review!
If you want an insanely in depth analysis Munro live is the best, there’s 40 videos each over 20 mins on each tiny detail of the year down
@@elysiumchaser7799 Hey, thanks for the advice!
This is a paid negative hit piece on Tesla, He says hes a mechanic but doesn't show any of the mechanical components of the car. He claims the body has bad gaps but shows none. He is not a body man either. He said the interior is put together with cheap glue but doesn't show any delamination. He claims the car creaks. Why didn't he take it for a test ride and prove it creaks. This is nothing but vast array of lies. I have reported this video to the Tesla legal team for deformation.
@@ronnythompson9115..So Ronnie, if any of this video is inaccurate poss Tesla has a legal case. But when this guy's opinion is true ( though your mind is closed to this possibility) then will his freedom of speech cover him,; or will that cover him legally to begin with? Just one guy's opinion? So ignore it. How can freedom of speech work if not on TH-cam? Oh, I forgot TH-cam stops randomly disagreeable sites too.. If Elon leaves it up doesn't that indicate Elon is ok with freedom of speech too?
@@bikemannc - Why doesn't he actually prove his points instead just spewing non sense out of his mouth? It would be pretty easy to prove his negative issues. Thought this was a mechanics review not a fit and finish review? In a court of law you have to prove your points. My guess is he is getting paid to spread Tesla FUD. Their is a difference between defamation and freedom of speech.
I’m a mechanical engineer specializing in HVAC. I appreciate your excellent video on the heat pump technology on the Tesla. Well presented sir. Love all your videos. Entertaining and knowledgeable and honest. Thank you.
a real honest professional critical review of the Y. not like the paid reviews that don't give the real facts. I will stick with ICE.
I own a Tesla mdY 24 and I think this review is totally honest, only real car enthusiasts agree with him, others keep praising about how fast and low maintenance a Tesla is and forgot about the workmanship of a car maker. Turn off your music and drive through rough road such as East LA, you will feel how bad the suspension and cheap parts rattle in your Tesla...Keep in mind since it first release model, Tesla has been listened to customer s and constantly improve their car
I had a 2018 Model 3 for the last four years. It is a well built and well thought out machine! Luckily, they don't break down very often! Those are the good things! The bad: Range is never anything near what they claimed, unless your trip is totally driving downhill (is that possible🤣)! If, in the rare case, that you have to take it in, service absolutely sucks! I traded back for a gasoline powered car! I needed to take out of town trips, which isn't the Tesla's strong point, unless you have a lot of time and patience!
But for city driving, and commuting to work - it's the best! Note: I do have a home charger!
Before I bought my Model Y, I had a Model 3. I live in southern Nevada and had taken it to Wisconsin, California, Utah, Arizona and other places. Leaving the house with a full battery, going to WI was simple. Drive until it was time for lunch, start charging the car, and before I was done eating, the car was ready to go. Then drive until it was time for dinner, start charging...
When I got to where I would spend the night, charge the car, go to bed, get up and repeat as the first day. Third day, repeat except that at the end of the day, I would be at my destination. Very conveniently, the trip was split into almost identical 600 mile sections. The autopilot system worked very well and I never had to guess where the next supercharger was or what exit I needed to use when changing Interstate highways.
The miles shown in your battery icon shows combined range. Not highway. Which is why when you enter your destination it gives you the range while traveling highway speeds and it takes into account weather. That system has been incredibly accurate, I would suggest changing your battery miles to %. That helps unconfuse people.
@@nvrick7729 It sounds like you eat lunch and dinner every two hours. Lunch at 10 am and dinner at 12pm? So unless you drive at 45mph there is no way you can drive from real lunch time to dinner time between the charging. Most people drive at 75mph because the speed limit is 70mph there. Even if you had M3 LR with 358 miles of range you would have driven about 200 miles after you charged at home. 20% loss of the range because of the speed and 20% battery reserve. That is 3 hours. But then you would have to charge until 80% and now to get back to 20% you can only drive 150 miles. 2 more hours. Certainly not the time to eat dinner unless you are a Amish who eat dinner very early because of the lack of electricity. So I know you are FULL-OF-SHIT.
BS I think you made this up you didn’t have a tesla .
@@dt2526 Way longer than you've had yours!
Hats off for a very honest and frank review straight from your heart. I really liked how you started with a simple Thermo dynamics concept and explained the whole system. Only someone with a good grasp of concepts and deep practical knowledge can explain it in a simple manner.
Wow. What an eye opener of a review. What an austere interior. It'd be awesome if the technology were licensed to Toyota or Lexus. Imagine how nice the rest of the car could be.
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i agree with the the gaps being an objective problem but saying that there are missing buttons on interior is a strong subject of opinion... i actually find the cleanliness and lack of controls a big improvement against all other manufacturers... additionally the newer models have double laminated windows which improve the silence in the car.. not even speaking about safety and AI focused driving asistance and 360-degree camera system to record everything 24/7 is extremely huge plus especially when accidents happen so you have a strong defend case against insurance companies..
There’re many real life accidents involving Tesla on TH-cam you can watch proving your point - saving a Tesla driver a lot of pain and money. No bull, the cameras around the Tesla are constantly recording and the police love the evidence available. Sure it can also incriminate you if you’re the troublemaker.
The screen is decent but could be much better designed. It's large but ut seems about 40% is fixed in showing the image of the car in various situations. So the really usable area is only about 60% of the screen. Also, those two sections of rhe screen should ve reversed. The area of rhe screen that you'll interact mire with should be closer to the driver.
Lastly, all Teslas scream for a HUD feature.. It would go a long way to make rhe driving experience nuch more user-friendly.
You should see the early cars that came out of Fremont lol. I heard stories from there. One guy I know said they struggled stretching those panels to get the gaps closer without causing damage to the paint. He thinks the assembly of some internal parts somehow went out of whack. At one point he said an engineer asked them to cut a hole in one of the panels so he can stick a camera in there to see what's preventing the panel not to sit properly. Early production pains obviously. But if the recent cars are still like that then they have a more serious problem.
Really enjoyed your review even though I do not agree with all of your opinions. For reference I have a 2022 Model Y Performance in the garage parked next to a 2021 Toyota 4Runner. We also own a 2013 Lexus RX450h and a 2017 Porsche 911 C2s, so the whole gamut of quality. I agree that the quality of the Model Y is not fantastic but ours must be way better than the one you tested. No squeaks or rattles and the door handles do not squeak. Some of the body panel gaps are not perfect. In comparison, the other three cars we own are fantastic. The ride quality is firm but not terrible. Firmer than the 4Runner or Lexus and similar to the 911. The overall look of the Model Y is not great I agree. You kind of wrote off the acceleration of the car, but that sure makes merging onto freeways and passing so so easy. We use our Model Y for around town driving for the most part and love it for that. It is fast and reasonably nimble and we pop it on the charger at night and the next day have a full tank of "gas". Most importantly, my wife loves driving the car. She usually drives her Lexus RX450h, is not super comfortable driving the 4Runner, and has never tried to drive the 911, so her feeling super comfortable driving the Model Y was a factor in deciding to buy the car. We have had the Model Y since last September and still love it. That said, if I could only have one of our four cars and could not sell one or trade one for something else, I would keep the 4Runner. It is the most versatile and most capable. Right now it mostly sits in the garage and we use the Model Y for 95% of our driving.
Have you tried the Model X? I think it is much more comfortable and pleasure to drive than the Y.
You have all my favorite cars. We have a Tesla 3LR, Y Performance. If had more parking space and money maybe the 911 and 4Runner would be here too.
I miss my 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium. Couldn’t afford the gas in November 2021 as I drive for Uber/Lyft. I used a 2015 BMW 328d (diesel) until I traded for a 2023 Model Y. Can’t wait until I get a home charger. Just got my Tesla CCS adapter tonight when I came home. Hopefully that’ll cut my charging bill a bit as the chargers at the mall are $0.43/kWh and the Tesla Supercharger is $0.46/kWh (12:00am-4am8
@@hawtan4536 No I have not tried the Model X. Too expensive for me!
@@J.Young808 Love my 4Runner but it mostly sits in the garage now. No plans to sell it as I still use it for hauling stuff and off road trips. Nice not to be spending so many dollars on gas though.
Love the review. I agree with most comments, quality of some materials, general fit and finish. My personal experience with my 2018 Model 3 is, some panel gaps (I can live with those) 115k kilometers, 93% battery health (Tesla gave us a way to check in a recent OTU (Over The air Update), zero rattles, a joy to drive. Did I mention the OTUs. Seems like a big oversight. Except that my 4 year old 3 doesn’t have the Octovalve or double window panes that my wife’s 2022 Model Y has, my 3 has everything that a brand new 3 or Y has. The updates are huge son my list.
No mention of safety in the review either. I’ve found that people make a big deal about safety but most times it’s only lip service. My daughter is pregnant and I was really happy she got a Model 3. I have a 5 year Honda Cr-V and I guaranty that my grandchildren will never be in it as long as I own a Tesla. I kept the Honda for when I need to carry stuff that I don’t want in the Y. Sure wasn’t for the towing ‘cause the Y can tow more.
No fatalities in a Lexus RX. None. And I can get one I love for $40K less than the subsidized slave labor crazy repair cost Tesla. And it will go 300K miles with a battery replacement that is under $200.
@@uncareid5557 always good to get what we love. Good for you.
@@Tzoid1 well, I love my wife! coming up on 50 years!
I own a Tesla Model Y and agree with you in all aspects of your review. It rattles, it has got a cheap interior & everything is fragile. 5 Months after the purchase, the windshield got a stress crack. You need to wait for months to get your car fixed due to the lack of enough service centers... Really appreciate your honest review. Im just addicted to your videos. Currently thinking of buying a ICE car and the moment I like a model, I just come and search for your review video. Great job and keep doing more and more.
what model year is yours ?
At least you have a service center. Imagine to live in a state where the nearest service center is 150 miles away
Damn Sir, this is the type of content and presentation You Tube was invented for. I have nothing with Teslas; I live on a tiny island where the concept is not feasible nor environmentally friendly so I have no interest in EVs ...yet glued to the screen here like watching Breaking Bad in condensed form LOL. My compliments . Subscribed and I hit the bell. Well earned!
Great tutorial and information. As a retired HVAC guy I love the engineering on the manifold. Thanks again.
The natural locations for controls are on or around the steering wheel where the wheel can steady the hand or finger when driving - especially on bumpy roads. Well designed visual touch control displays are great visually but take your eyes off the road and the bumps move the finger off target.
There is some room for improvement here, voice controls coming.
@@tedmoss Voice controls already exist. You can say things like "Temperature 68", "Tire Pressure", "Navigate to Walmart". You don't need to touch the screen while driving. And if you need to do something complicated on screen, that's when you activate AUTOPILOT, hands free steering adas system.
Finally a review that describes exactly how the model y feels to me. I tried to like the car because it is electric, and so popular. But when it came time to purchase it looked too bare bones.
Thank you for calling the components as you see them. Too many places seem to be entirely badmouthing or total fanboys of the car.
I appreciate your knowledge and reviews. Being in my 6th decade of life, I have owned several Toyotas, Fords, Lexus, BMW, and have test driven practically everything else in over a decade of car rentals while traveling. I can relate to the comments relating to fit, finish, and cheap plastic. I also respect your objective and subjective opinions. Here are mine. Having had all ICE vehicles up until my recent 2014 Model S (still have), as a car enthusiast, I didn't mind maintaining my vehicles with frequent engine oil changes, changing air filters, oil filters, spark plugs, points/condenser back in the day of distributors, occasionally transmissions, clutches, axle fluid, radiator fluid, having engine work done with the replacement of ignition coils, fuel injectors, fuel pumps, oil pumps, timing chains, timing belts, torque converters, and practically everything that gets hot, moves, or spins at super high rpms. I also did some SCCA Solo II racing, and having a low center of gravity helps. It was fun trying to pretend my MR2, 260Z, Supra Turbo, BMW were actual race cars, but I know they weren't. The point I am making here is that I'm fed up with dealing with heavy engine blocks that sit in the front of the vehicle at a height that is suboptimal for a heavy piece of machinery on a vehicle that is supposed to handle. Yeah, yeah, the MR2 was mid-engine, and the BMW handled well, but face it. Those freaking heavy Tesla batteries sit below me low to the ground. I have no heavy fossil fuel engine parts to worry about. All I need to worry about is my cheap plastic and not so great fitment. Let's talk ergonomics. When I get home, my Tesla suspension lifts the vehicle so I don't scrape the front, the garage door opens automatically, and I never have to worry about the door being unlocked when I leave. My Lexus and Toyotas all are not so smart. When I exit the car before the wife does, and try to lock the vehicle, the Toyotas always emit a continuous piezoelectric sound to tell me and everyone else in the vicinity that I am stupid for not waiting for the wife to leave before pressing the key fob lock button. What about the Toyota and Lexus center dashboard clocks not syncing with the computer clock? Why are they separate and not integrated?
VERY WELL SAID!!!
Great point about maintenance. I have owned several gas car brands before such as Benz, Volvo, Ford, Hyundai, Honda, Nissan, and maintenance was so costly compared to my 2018 Tesla model 3. The only things costed me so far for maintaining model 3 for 5 years are windshield wipers and fluid, cabin air filter, and a set of tires, just normal wear and tear.
I only use superchargers when travel hundreds of miles as I normally charge level 2 at home, which is practically free because I have solar panels.
I love the look of Tesla except model Y, and admit the interior is not nice and polished as my Benz, but its EV performance is wow!!! so smooth and fun to drive even in the city streets. I am so excited to finally be able to afford model X, just put order in last week. My next and probably the last car would be the Cybertruck 😮
I have a dream... also in my later years. Not changing oil! The issues raised, while valid, are mice nuts.
nobody wants or needs to read youur Harry Potter length novel... this isn't all about you
@@slowery43 Well, you did.
Great in-depth review. I own a model 3 and it has been one of best cars I owned. With their technology and design. Tesla is ahead of the competition by a decade. If it weren’t for them, manufacturers would’ve produces similar cars like the boring Nissan leaf starting with BMW i3, they are the game changer. The interior is minimalist and most things are consolidated into the control screen. If you are looking for bells and whistles permanently sticking out of the dashboard, in a matter of months it will become standard to you and maybe boring. Most of the controls are also controlled by voice command including the AC. The auto pilot is amazing and with major software updates, it like getting a new car. Speaking for my model 3, I have over 27k on it and it drives like day one, no rattles nor squeaks. As for the design, it’s a personal preference and I love the style of the M3. I charge it every couple of nights and is more than enough for my daily commute. I don’t miss pumping gas nor stopping at a gas station for that matter
So brilliantly explained.. pluses and minuses all explained in a layman fashion.. even the negatives. Bless you!!!
Apparently, the Model Y manufactured in Berlin should be a lot better built than the previously ones. I surely hope that, 'cause I just recently ordered a Model Y Performance :)
You will not be dissapointed, it will change your expectation of all cars period.
Great review sir! I'm a marine technician and Just found your channel. Find myself listening to your channel while I'm working on boats. I love your attention to detail and I'm very similar in my work. Takes a little longer to do a quality job and have good morals but it's well worth it! Keep up the good work!
He’s ridiculous. I mean what person would twist an interior door handle like that to elicit a sound he doesn’t like just for show. If honestly you take what he says seriously, I got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. 🤦🏼♂️
@@GBSamsonno he’s not he’s realistic lol
@@random13627 He is? About what, exactly?
@@GBSamson You did get the reason for him doing this, just to get interest in his videos. Not my way, I would not make any money on U-Tube.
@@GBSamson I have some property in Arizona, it is nice. I am waiting for Calif. to fall into the ocean.
Great review - can't wait to see your review of the new Model 3 Highland - they've really improved build quality and finishes - still not the best, but getting very competitive at the price range. Will have to see what they do to the Y.
Is that with the juniper battery?
At the price point fit and finish should equal a rolls!
Unfortunately they have also made their driver assist and "self driving" features significantly worse in the revised model by getting rid of radar detectors and only using normal cameras because of cost cutting.
The Tesla thermodynamic system is amazing. Have you done a similar analysis of other EVs that have a heat pump? I wonder if they can also smartly move heat from so many sources to so many sinks (even if it takes many separate valves)?
Jus got the same model you reviewed (and also have a Camry Hybrid '18, with Comma 3). Our Y was built in Austin, TX the first week of January, 23 and it doesn't squeak... YET. Fit and finish is actually very good and we got into it the day the price was cut by 20%. So far, so good. We know we are the exception. Thanks for the honest review and we watch your channel every week.
Check out the COMMA 3 for your Camry. I'd love to see a review by you.
What’s comma 3?
@@Mabeylater293 It gives your car class 2 self driving capabilities. Google and TH-cam are your friends. COMMA 3 OPENPILOT
Thank you for explaining it nicely. The transfer of temperature is known as Thermal Equilibrium. Never knew until now that they can actually utilize that in an automobile.
most EV have heat pumps by now due to the missing gas engine as he explained :)
@@cpt.calamarigaming634 No, most have heat pumps because they copied Tesla, which is a good idea.
Temperature does not get transferred, heat does. This is not what thermal equilibrium is.
Very nice review and good points to consider before buying one. However just like everything else in life some things are subjective. We are all different and may see things differently, for me I care less about the looks and the environmental concerns are not on the top of my list, and I don't abuse any cars I ever owned anyway. I do prefer the practicality of things on my preference list. For me Tesla vehicle adds the advantage of me spending less time in a service garage for maintenance, it also score high if I get into an accident, and for re-charge I could do it at home and not necessarily at a gas/charging station. Everything else this review points out as the downside of it I don't consider a deal breaker. Its true it would be nice for Tesla to up the game in the quality to be on-par with other vendors but again for me the issues are not a deal breaker. The pluses "for me" out weight the points outline on this video. At the end this video ask "why constantly re-charge it" I thought the question was odd "to me" I thought you re-charge for the same reason you need to charge our phones, for the same reason we constantly has put gas on gasoline vehicles when they are low, and apparently a Tesla car conveniently it will self protect itself it if the detect something outside the norm by limiting the user to go outside of the parameters instead of allowing you cause expensive damage. Maybe in the future we will come up with something that takes care of re-charging all by it self.
I have watched so many of your videos to gain knowledge about the 2013 Lexus I owned, and all of a sudden I am here again to learn about the new car I just bought 😂 Same amount of detail- no idea why you call yourself a Toyota only mechanic, you are the best mechanic i have ever run across (without getting any work done by you). Really appreciate the time you put into all the reviews and repair videos you do.
Great review-thank you! I drove a loaded Model 3 (performance package and all) and it was a nice car to drive, specially fast. It was a rental, I should clarify, so I did not pay attention to the build quality details as I would if purchasing one for myself. However, do not forget to mention the charging network for Teslas; that is important. Biggest charging network and it works reliably. I, like you, would want buttons and physical controls to operate things, and build quality is important to me as well.
Great review of the mechanical components of the car. Other reviewers just highlight the features and a few lowlights without looking at what might happen after 5 years of ownership. The vast majority of people don't trade their cars in after 2-3 years so we care about the long term reliability. This pretty much depends on how well it is build in the first place. Please look at the underpart of cars more often. The look at the Hyundai Palisade was very revealing as to long term reliability. I also like that you don't review every car which means the Auto Manufacturers are not looking for you and thus you can say what you really think.
No mention of the adaptive cruise control and auto steer, aka the Autopilot? Those work very well. Quality has improved in 23, my MY has fairly symmetric panel gaps, no rattles or creaks. The simplicity of the interior is refreshing.
Agree with your your saying around 29:20. We'd really have some better cars then. Use that same tech but improve upon the things tesla SUCKS at. Great final verdict and agree.
Fascinating review! All of your reviews are wonderful largely because most other reviewers don't have your extensive automotive mechanical training background and expertise. Keep up the fine work!
Totally agree.. i do hope those great reviews keep coming and more and more cars get reviewed..
extensive ICE experience - absolutely zero idea about ev's
@@stevenstrain283 Your right EV's are extremely simple mechanically - a MASSIVE pro for reliability over a mechanically complicated ICE car. And your explanation would be a great one for a child.... However IT/ battery chemistry and thermal management etc is being developed and improved at a rapid rate - there is a lot more to EV then most people have any idea about......... Some EV company's are far ahead of others.
You actually missed one of the most interesting technologies Tesla uses to quickly generate heat. You mentioned that there are a couple of electric heaters for when the temperature is too cold for heat pump to work efficiently. What you didn't mention is that those electric heaters are actually the drive motors themselves. When stationary, they can send power to the motors by oscillating a forward and reverse command simultaneously. This results in the motor instantly heating up (very hot) and the coolant running through it is used where needed. No other car make does this.
He doesn't know this!
So, they saved some money not putting actual heaters? Which are very small and light btw
Yeah top rated safety but then that’s not as important as more bling in the cabin is it. Wait let me ask my family.
@@Sheldon42 It all goes back to efficiency not the component count or cost.
@@marcogutierrez8669 Tesla is not the safest car of them all, you know that, don't you?
Musk usually talks about his batteries and his motors. I don't know how their performance compares with others, but he's proud of some things about them. But this is the first review focused on the heat management. I can imagine a linear system being solved for optimal heat ducting given all the parameters, constantly running in a computer onboard. It's good to see some new top-level design in the car industry rather than just refinement of old concepts. As for the fit and finish, everyone agrees, but I don't mind the "empty" interior. It looks sleek as long as you don't touch the materials or look at little details.
It will be nice to see what comes in the next few years. Elon says China is his main competition but if the others can mix tesla engineering with their strengths it might be amazing.
Sad. Reality hates Elon. His new large 4680 batteries has lower capacity density than 3680. It needs refining.
@@cronostvg 4680 batteries are excellent and perfect for manufacturing. Ford and GM might be making the switch soon too
@@cronostvg With all your knowledge... Get to work and fix this for the world of electric cars!
@@cronostvg ignorant is opinion without facts
Why don’t mention maintenance requirements, it does have a “transmission “ with lot of gear, the motor has gears and are lubricated , when you need to do an oil change? Can you do it at home like the gas cars?
You don't need to change the gear oil, may not have to do brake, no coolant, just have to add windshield washers fluids blades, cabin filter, tires. Now there's no maintenance schedule
Simple.. its because there are non..
Wow! What a fantastic explanation of how this works, I applaud you. I have never heard anyone explain this in such great detail as you have and I have been following Tesla for quite a few years already. Again, many thanks!!! 👏
The first part of the review about how Tesla's engine works was brilliant, But this poor guy was out of his league when he ventured into aesthetics. He understands the beauty of simplicity when it comes to engine design but does not get it when it comes to the exterior and the interior of Teslas, which is breathgivigly beautiful.
Well-rounded review. Very honest review. I'd like to add a few thoughts about the designs around that piece of screen. The screen is well engineered as mentioned in the review. However, there are two things I do not like the design around it. First, the data about the driving status such as speed, light mode, temp etc are not in front of you; they are on that screen on your right. I feel it quite annoying having to look sideways to check the car speed for example. Second, some controls such as AC temp, sound volume better be large knobs that I can reach and turn them without looking. It's kind of dangerous to shift your focus to the screen, even for just a few seconds, to just lower the temperature or the volume of the radio. Just my 2 cents.
You have a point there, but I do believe that you can change those settings with voice commands.
Yep! Those small knobs could be added right below the screen, attached to the screen. There are aftermarket buttons that do it already like the S3XY buttons by Enhance.
I appreciate your review of the model Y. nI however have had no problem with the interior or exterior. no rattles or squeaks. Also, I like the simplicity of the interior I think it looks nice neat and clean. I’ll admit I also like the $13,000 reduction in price Driving the vehicle on long trips has been phenomenal. The super charging system is great and it has a decent range.
Capitalism 101, put out a massively overpriced product, hype it up, then cut the price and people will think they’re getting a deal. 😂😂😂
@@sethtenrec my Kia niro EV was not much less expensive(AfterDealer markup :-( ), but not nearly as capable as the Model Y. I guess I will just be satisfied with my overpriced vehicle. 14,000 miles in 6 months with only minor issues. :-)
A couple notes on the comments about what he doesn't like...i'm currently riding in that exact same car: same color inside and outside, same wheels and tires. Built in California. 2023 September build. 0 rattles. The road noise when doing small bumps and bigger bumps is a low thud/rumble which is new to me coming from a toyota avalon which seemed quieter. But that said, these are low profile performance tires, bigger wheels, and a glass roof that won't exactly absorb sound...so with that awesome glass roof will come sound reflection which can create more road noise...it's physics. Car to me looks beautiful and functional, it gets way more interior space than any car its size, seats fold flat for sleeping, impressive handling and arodymamics. Additionally the car is more "in tune" with my actions. You get in and go, the one peddle driving after a day is way more control and extension of your driving than any other car, the turning is super responsive and smooth. He said he doesn't like the build...but go side by side with the exception of road noise on bumps...what matches up better? I test drove alot of cars...nothing was close in this price range.
Id4?
@@SW-ni8ls whats your commentary?
Same question. I am comparing this to a BMW i4. I do like hearing your experience and you drove others before the buy. On the fence.
Tesla seems to be polarizing with build quality. I personally have never noticed a problem with build quality. My only major complaint is door handles. Otherwise I am very much in favor of Tesla. I do not own a Tesla, I test drove one… clearly ownership would tell the true story.
@@JaiSilasAya I personally own and have now 5 friends with Tesla's, model 3, 2013 model S, model y...0 build quality issues. All the tesla baloney Is just a bunch of PR bots spreading this info because its the only play left by the legacy car maker industry. Everybody that ACTUALLY owns one as a % will rebuy a tesla vs any other brand. Consumer reports is now saying the tesla is the lowest cost of ownership vs any other brand. The "polarizing" build quality seems to be a bit of nonsense in present day build quality.
What I can’t understand is why there are issues with things like panel gaps. Tesla manages everything related to the production of the parts to final assembly. It’s mostly automated so repeatability should be a non-issue. If they do any QA at all then they have very low standards. Panel gaps are something that can be checked very easily with scanners after each assembly phase. If a gap is off then detour that chassis off the line for manual inspection and adjustment if possible. If the detour line gets full then it’s time to halt production at that stage and figure out why. It sounds like the goal is to hit production and shipping goals then leave it to the service centers to make things right for the customers.
The panel gap issue is an valid one for older cars, but the mega castings have now solved it. My 2022 MY is as good or better than any car I've seen. In the words of one of the leading experts on manufacturing, Sandy Munroe, the fit and finish is now "Bentley, Rolls Royce quality". After having an interior w/o having all those crappy, engineered to break, gauges and buttons everywhere, I will never want to purchase another vehicle with that crap. Driving at night without an instrument panel in front of you is bliss.
Just bought a 2023 Model Y. Zero panel gap issues. Breathtaking assembly quality. 😮
@@usahome Same with my 2022 Model Y. The panel gaps are a fixed issue. You're going to love your new car! :)
There is no QC. Luckily mine has one tiny spot where 2 panel aren’t completely flush, but no weird gaps. My coworker just got hers, so many QC issues.
To each their own. In my experience I grew up on GM. my entire family owned either an Impala, Nova, Cutlass 442, Monte Carlo, or Caprice. When I came of age, I followed suit with GM and Ford. When Tesla first launched, I was a doubter as to whether the company would produce practical, affordable vehicles. I have owned 3 Tesla vehicles since 2018 (MY and M3 sitting in the garage as of this writing). These cars are engineered and refined over time (structurally and technically). The MY coming out of Texas with the single piece casted front & rear frame (which I currently own) is an engineering first. The 2022 M3 coming out of Fremont with LFP batteries is also a first. If ANY other auto manufacturer can do better they have not done so to date, and the numbers show. Time will tell as to the longevity of both the company and the vehicles, nevertheless the gauntlet has a been set for the industry to follow. Innovate or perish.
All legacy automakers are innovating. Just look at the EVs they are producing and the once that they have announced. Teslas are caca built cars with components that don't last past 5 years lol.
I Couldn't Agree More!!! There is No Other Car I would BUY! No more Smog! Over the Air Updates! Home Gas, or charging! The Most complete charging system on the Planet!!!
@@USNEM wanna talk about not last past 5 years? Look at Chevy/GM electric vehicle
Other cars are engineered and refined over time and Tesla still has a ways to go in terms of NVH and ride/handling refinement as well as the sounds they make in the cabin. The drum like resonance is still a part of the 3 and Y at least, even in the more tighter feeling ones. Tesla would be better to slow things down and stop chasing volume over just making the best Teslas they can. But they seem obsessed with volume.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Very well said. I agree.
Yep I ordered mine recently due to its price drop. I feel that it’s at a level that is reasonable and makes sense for the wallet. Would NOT have spent 70k on this, that would be dumb. But Tesla can and will evolve faster than any other automaker to meet customer expectations. Tesla is here to stay.
Then why are other car manufacturers catching up to Tesla? Especially in range capability. Tesla is still king but competition is creeping up. Basically your claim of Tesla evolving faster would mean by now they'd have a 700 mile range EV.
Saleen, you have to feel good about your tesla or else live with incredible buyer’s remorse. So you keep feeling good rationalizing, go ahead.
What good is evolving is the car isn't built right from the start, Everyone brags about how great the Tesla is, but why are so many people getting rid of them so quickly . I also want to know how long will the car software be supported for - the real period not the happy talk to trick people into being beta testers. Buying one of these used is a huge risk because no one knows how long the battery will really last, Tesla cannot be trusted - if they have faith, guarantee the battery for 500,00 miles let them put their money where their mouth is.
@@flybeep1661 but 700 miles in what temp . They should state the miles At 0 degrees and 90 degrees so you know the real range not the BS range
Every car manufacturer releases a few bad batches of the car, every one. Look at the Jeep GC 4xe, I’ve never seen so many buybacks which pretty much means, it was a lemon! Also, no car company makes a car that meets everyone’s needs. We need Tesla, competition is good and it makes other car manufacturers up their game. Sometimes simplicity is good, and sometimes not, to each their own. I enjoy my model Y for 3 years now, and it’s not boring, and yes, I don’t care for Elon and I don’t think Tesla is great and can’t do any wrong, but I don’t have that expectation from any car manufacturer. For looks and ride height, I love the Rivian, however I can’t justify 70k and up. However, Lexus 450h+, 70k practically….ICE cars are 50k and up, so for some Model Y will actually be a good deal, with a much more lower maintenance. All and all, Tesla isn’t as great as Elon think and Tesla isn’t as bad as ICE old schoolers may think.
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. I concur with your assessment regarding the build quality of the earlier Model Y's. Upon inspection of the dash, it was evident that it was one of the earlier versions. However, the 2023 Model Y I recently rented was a significant improvement in terms of construction and the quality of materials used on the doors and center console. It would be interesting to see a comparison between this and a newer Model Y with improved build quality.
New model Y quality is still bad.. all new Teslas seem decent when new because everything is so fresh - but after some use things shift, move, fall apart and begin to make noise. After just a couple months of resting your arm on the door panel or opening and closing the center console you’ll see. Renting a new one is not a good way to judge how well it’s made
Not only Model Y. I know an owner of a Model X complaining about the leaking Falcon wing doors as they are out of alignment. WTF is the only way to describe them
@@YungAnt7 I can say that the MYs coming out of China are as good as any other manufacturer in terms of build quality. 😉
@@yslee1401 yeah I’ve been working with cars since 2017 I work with ALOT of teslas they’re very overpriced, anyone who spends more than $65k for any model is nuts. 3 is a $33k-43k car. Y $35k-45k. S $50k-63k. X $52k-$65k. It’s the power of being 1st to bring something new and game changing to the industry..the actual value is lower than what you can charge due to everyone fanning out over the product and praising it cuz it seems so futuristic
There is something which is missing in this review, though. The most of the budget goes also to the safety of the car (which is second to none) and the audio system. I would buy this car BECAUSE OF its safety!
I recently bought a Tesla Model Y because of the price, $53000-$7500 (tax credit)= $47500.
Toyota RAV4 Prime XSE $ 47000 with dealer mark up. Or a year plus wait list with no guarantee.
Mazda CX-9 signature $47000 and available.
Lexus NX PHEV $59000 and available
Most sensible would have been to wait for the new Toyota Prius but after watching Tesla drive off the cliff and all the passengers surviving… it was an easy choice.
It’s a combination of speed, fun, safety, and savings on gas. I wouldn’t pay $65k plus for it, but under $50K it makes some sense.
The same exact reason why I bought my 2023 model Y. If it survived 250 foot cliff, I am gamed. Name a $50,000 suv that can do 0-60 under 5 seconds and get 40 mpg with top safety rating. I knew exactly that the fit and finish is shitty.
The air conditioning is vented through a car wide vent bar. It is fully directional by the touch screen using air vectoring.
Cheap and glitchy is not how I would describe my model 3 that came out of china. It’s as solid as anything else on the road and after 80,000km still does not have one single rattle or squeak. I can’t say the same for my previous 17 cars which included Toyotas. I think they look great and just show how cheesy other cars really are. The model y is the best selling car in the world atm and Toyota themselves have referred to it as a masterpiece.
The Shanghai and Berlin build cars are very well made. I've looked over a few in detail and can't fault anything. I have a new BMW and would say they are easily on par with BMW build quality now.
Totally agree, my friend has a new 150k bmw suv and isnt any better built than a model y from Shanghai
And BMW build quality is nothing to shout about compared with the Japanese manufacturers
@@timorum I've got a 2021 BMW M135i and the build quality isn't great. Next week I'm taking it in as the door rubber is hanging off. It has lots of squeaks and rattles also.
Great simple explanation of the heat pump, very much like a VRF (variable refrigerant flow) system used to heat and cool buildings by moving heat from areas that have too much to areas that need more, and vice versa, and may I say in a very elegant package. There is a lot of technology in the batteries and motors as well, oh and no CO2 or NOx out of a tailpipe.
Great review and love your channels (I'm a Toyota/Lexus nut - LX470, Supra). That said, I absolutely love my Tesla Model 3... the build quality can be variable but my '22 is solid, I kinda like the looks, the infotainment system is top notch, the autopilot system is a real quality-of-life improver for my long commute and that it just tears up the miles (over 20k in less than a year so far)...
The way you started gushing about the heat exchange system I thought "Here we go, another review that focuses on the one thing Tesla does really well and forgets that the rest of the car is more like a poorly assembled computer on wheels than a car..." Glad I stuck around for the rest, I have the exact sentiment, and I really, really tried to like Teslas... Drove Model S for a few months, tried Model X as well and both felt largely the same-as I was driving a supped-up Dacia Sandero for the price of a specced-up BMW 5 Series... Just couldn't get behind that.
Great review and I appreciate your knowledge and opinions about the vehicle. I have a 2023 Model Y on order and have test driven a few of them to date. It's been a long 2 years researching and deciding to make a purchase and we can't wait for ours to arrive. I personally love the look of the car inside and out. The software package of the vehicle IMO is superior to the big three motor companies and they are playing catch up for sure. You explained how the heating and cooling systems works and that makes me love the car even more, I am ok with small imperfections of the body and trim. I've owned many cars in my lifetime and every one has things that didn't work or just make you scratch your head and wonder why. Nice review overall thank you.
What happens if you run out of gas?
We bought our MY march 2021 love it still. Have 50,000km already. No regrets, no charging issues, ever!
I don't think you're going to be impressed.
Well did you take delivery yet? And if so how has it been?
@@Michael-md9jg I drove electric for 10 years, never "ran out of gas" because the car charges every night at home. Never had to drive out of my way or lose hours of my life filling up gas, also haven't visited the garage for a "tune up" and "oil change". Imagine how people are okay with losing so much time in their lives.
Good review. Everyone is entitled to express thoughts on interior, but he is terribly mistaken on the build quality. Toyota did a tear-down of the model 3 when it came out. They died laughing at the build quality. Earlier this year they did a tear down of the 2023 Model Y (which I own) and declared it a work of art. Tesla is pioneering the Gigi casting technology which leads to fewer parts and a stronger vehicle. Apparently Toyota has some Gigi presses on order. The new Model Y came out with the highest values recorded in the Federal crash tests. The early model 3’s may have had poor build quality, but Tesla learns and implements fast, and are now pioneering automaker. They get things done while the Legacy are seeking approval. As far as fit and finish, before I took delivery on my car I checked out all of the areas pointed out as problematic and found no problems.
I have a feeling the quality issue is mainly for the ones from the Fremont plant. From reports overseas who get theirs from the Shanghai and Berlin plants, the fit and finish is on par with the major German brands. The Fremont plant is old and not optimized like the other plants so hoping the ones coming out of the Texas plant is better. Anyone got one from Texas please chime in on their experience.
Yes, it looks like he is reviewing a Fremont car.
Correct. I picked up my model 3 long range only a few weeks ago. Not a rattle to be heard, no panel gaps, no issues at all. I am in Australia and mine came from Shnaghai, I know of 3 others in my circle of friends who have Tesla's from Shanghai and all have no issues and put together exceptionally well. It does seem to be an issue from Freemont only.
I took delivery of a Fremont built Model Y and there were absolutely no issues with the car, the internet seems to love passing around opinions on which Tesla factory builds the best car. Kind of like Toyota owners comparing their North American built RAV4s with the Japan built RAV4 Prime!
He was talking about the material feel and the feel of the fake leather compared to other cars in the same price range with leather. The Model S is no where near BMW, Mercedes, or Lexus.
So far Mercedes has the most luxurious EV as reviewed from an actual engineer in manufacturing. th-cam.com/video/mkR4DwWL6uc/w-d-xo.html
@@chrischapin2936 My Fremont MYLR (Feb, 2022 build) had zero quality issues as well so it is a thing of the past. Now the Model Y in this video looks to be a Performance model with 21" wheels and lowered suspension with will dramatically affect ride and stiffness, perhaps making a few rattles.
OLD Stuff! No rattles or squeaks on mine…you must be lucky Have you reviewed the new Model 3…that is the future! Model Y is not far behind. SUCH A ROOKIE!
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Thank you for your expert assessment and opinions. I do agree the material and fit and finish of my 2023 MY and M3 is less than desire for the amount of money I’ve spent on them. That being said, I bought the Teslas for their technology and extensive supercharger networks. If Tesla spent more time and resources to improve the materials and fit and finish they wouldn’t be able to churn out cars fast enough to meet the demands and the cost would be even greater. Some compromises have to be made to get these cars out to the masses at the earliest time available. The traditional ICE auto industry spent 100 years refining the fit and finish of their automobiles but at the end of the day they are antiquated the moment they rolled off the assembly lines. The Tesla gets better features and performances through time via over the air software updates. That is a game changer.
OTA updates wasn’t mentioned here. This concept is not widely nor effectively practiced by car manufacturers generally, but Tesla is doing it very well. Most traditional cars don’t get free OTA software updates, you got to take it in for service and maybe you get an update.
So a Tesla potentially improve in functionality and performance after you bought it. That cannot be said about other cars, not even other EVs eg BYD, MGs etc.
@@jacobheinz8236i see that as a good thing.
We’re hearing a lot from Tesla owners on here, of course you love the piece of crap. And yes, the engineering is amazing. I rode in one of these on an Uber trip, I’ll never get in one again. What garbage.
@@sethtenrecfor better or for worse it’s the best selling vehicle in the world so there must be something to it.
@@1486230 the best selling model because they only make a few. Certainly not the best selling car brand. Far far from it.
well... the model Y was 53K (now 55K). the average new car sold in the US is 48 or 49K. so while it is not cheap, it is just about average (should i mention rav4 prime average sold price is about the same thanks the dealer markups nation wide). with tax credit, the Y is about 45k and you know it is that price without needing to going to different dealership and negotiate the price. so if you follow the new car pricing, the Y isn't expensive by any means, unless you have anything else to compare to at least.
in term of quality, yeap, still quite bad even in 2023. but with tesla you also get the auto pilot (the free one). i have many toyota cars and i must say... tesla's curise control puts all toyota to shame. what was toyota working on for the past 20 years in term of ease of use? and let's not forget the insane fast drive train.
By no means do I imply your review is incorrect, but it is very much incomplete and frankly... That makes you very biased (which you are as Toyota mechanic). You made no mention of this vehicle in motion, either the ease of use ( herece people sleep at their driving wheels, try to do that with Toyota), or the instant power that put all Toyota in shame. Seriously, find a production Toyota that has 0 to 60 in less time than the slowest SUV Tesla offers. And ask yourself this: how much would Toyota charge if gr supra or gr corolla goes from 0 to 60 under 4 seconds?
I owned my Model 3 for a year now, only had 3 issues which were fixed by warranty. One was the frunk locking mechanism which reopens when I closes it, the other was a squeak when the steering is at a certain position due to the rubbing between the steering and the dashboard and the last is the squeak of both rear windows when opening which they claimed was due to a build up of dust, which I personally do not believe. Mine is the Shanghai build which has a far superior quality compared to the US build which is agreed by most people who has taken delivery here as we receive the Shanghai ones. I did inspect inch by inch on delivery day and did not find any panel gap or quality issues so it depends on what factory it will be coming out of which is not good but at least there's some hope for some people that not all Tesla build quality are horrible. If we did not get the Shanghai build models, I would be reluctant to get one as well given how many horror stories of issues with panel gaps and such.
In terms of the interior design, I am the kind of person who likes minimalism which I find the design of the Tesla to be the best, so I would say this is personal preference rather than poor design, buttons to me are clutters and ugly, but if people do prefer them there will be other brands who are sticking to it so there's no reason why Tesla should change their interior for some people who may not like the minimalist look or find it difficult to use the touchscreen, which I do understand and find it sometimes difficult myself to adjust things while driving but that's where the software magic is at, with the superior voice control and now the newly added software update of multi function wheel control on the steering to adjust a dozen of things without needing to touch the screen at all.
The handling and power is really good, I haven't own or driven a lot of cars but this is one of the best if not the best, I feel comfortable enough to take corners at high speed because of the weight distribution and handling is superior, the powertrain of course delivers more than one would require and I don't even feel comfortable driving at the normal (standard) setting because of the amount of power that throws you around when you step on the pedal is just wild, and I am only at the base model which is more than double the 0-100km/h time compared to a performance model. For people who like to have that kind of power, this is a fun thing to drive and while it would be inefficient, for the majority of us who are driving sensibly it would be very efficient as many reviewers have done comparison to other brands and Tesla is always coming up on top for how efficiently they can squeeze every bit of battery into the powertrain.
I drove a Tesla Model 3 in Greece a couple of days ago. I don't know where it was made but it was absolutely brilliant. No squeaks, no rattles, very fast and very comfortable. And it was just the RWD long range.
I loved the simple interior, as many others have mentioned, it's much easier to clean (and to keep it clean) and you have far less things that can break (I guess mechanics that love taking advantage of clueless people, really hate that part).
Also, the whole indicator stalk baffled me. Many car guys, especially the older ones, you are really dogmatic and stuck in the past, aren't you? If you ask any motorcycle rider like myself, we would tell you that we've been using Tesla-like indicators our whole lives on all the bikes that we've ever owned or ridden. They take very little space, they only require your thumb to operate, and they do not auto-cancel by accident mid-turn all-the-bloody-time like the stupid car indicators do when you make any minor adjustment while turning.
On the thermal management system, it even scavenges heat from the infotainment and autopilot computers which are also liquid cooled by the battery loop.
If the heat pump is unable to scavenge enough heat, it will activate the front and rear drive inverters out-of-sync which creates a lot of additional waste heat for the heat pump. The car does not have any dedicated heaters.
What an awesome review. I am a tech guy and I appreciate your deeper dive into the cooling system and the follow up on build quality. A car is not like a phone; you live in it. You touch the surfaces, you feel the bumps, you breathe the air, you put things into the cup holders, the side handles, etc. And you do this for years, not months.
After extensive research and considerations, I bought and owned a Toyota Mirai (a hydrogen-electric vehicle). THAT was a beautifully executed electric car that also has a luxurious interior with great fit & finish and real car amenities (including real buttons). It's a Lexus under the Toyota badge. Anyway, it has its own struggles with Infrastructure, but that's a whole different story. After 3 yrs of ownership, I moved on (only because it was totaled in an accident). I recently shopped for a new car and looked long and hard at Tesla Y and X. I ultimately went to a gasoline GV70 as I felt EV infrastructure is not where it needs to be, especially when I don't have a dedicated garage to nicely charge it every night. Once I do, I'll seriously consider EVs again. I love that smooth, quiet driving-on-air experience of the Mirai. You are right, Tesla tech is beyond everyone else's. They should just license it to real car makers and continue to innovate on the EV drive train and software front. Let real car builders build the rest. Wait until Toyota comes out with solid state batteries. That will be the revolution the EV industry needs. For now, Tesla's 4680 Li-Ion battery is it (years ahead of competition).
Please do a deep dive review of the gasoline GV70. 🙏
You hit the nail on the head. If you have a covered garage where you can charge your car every day, an EV makes sense. Otherwise, you are better off with a gas car.
I say this as a happy model Y owner.
@@AlanMyronPrivate i have a covered garage...but i don't have a charger. That said...I live in area where there are 2 super charger places, and every whole foods has free charging and some of the public garages that are free for 90 min have chargers.
@@AlanMyronPrivate I charge mine outside.
Please check it out for yourself, you will be surprised by the contrast between an opinion and the fact.
Thanks for a great and detailed review.
However, one thing that I did not hear about was that the Tesla cars are all the safest cars.
In my opinion, this is a very important detail to include in your reviews.
Thanks again.
Source for claim that Tesla cars are the safest cars?
@@alexChook He claims it by word of mouth... lol🤣🤣
@@alexChook look it up
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EuroNCAP lol 🤡
@@alexChook IIHS and EuroNCAP have all the specs from the latest models.
I respect your opinions so much. And I never laughed so much while watching a car review. You nailed it 100% about this car. Refreshing to see someone who tells it like it is about Teslas and indeed every other car you’ve reviewed Thanks a million / go raibh maith agat. And yes I have learned something new, thanks to you.🙏