@@insertnamehere2635 Sure but i think what they're saying is TWD Season Finale didn't seem like a *Series* Finale. Like the way they ended that episode leaves so much room for a season 12 instead they're jumping into spinoffs and movies. Not how I imagined the series ending. Even giving way to new series in the universe it didn't feel like a finale.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan said it would’ve been better if they hadn’t announced the spinoff shows before the final season aired and that got him in hot water from AMC executives, but I agree with him. Knowing that the main characters survive the finale kind of spoils it and takes away from the drama and tension, y’know? Imagine how much better a scene would be if you don’t have that information and you’re thinking “Oh shit, is so-and-so gonna die here??”
Exactly! I thought the spin offs were fake because they had fake comic issues announced just to throw off fans to not anticipate the ending. But that was the comics, this is TV.
Yup, kinda like Marvel announcing the Spiderman movie before Infinity War and literally writing at the end of the film: Spiderman will return... Like thanks Marvel.
@@anthonymangia8890 they also announced "Carl's last episode" and "ricks last episode" like wtf is that . Imagine if they announced "glens last episode" Also they haven't had the balls to kill off a major character since Glenn and Abraham
@@emilianodiaz641Paul Rovia wasn’t a main character? I wasn’t watching regularly by then, but have gone back and even watched reaction vids where folks seemed pretty upset at his departure
Yeah. Like the scene where negan has to kneel down in alexandria. Jeffrey acted the shit out of it, and i enjoyed the symbolism very much! I even thought it would be nice for maggy to see that! but at the same time i was like "oh. Am i supposed to care about him right now? Come on. We already know he won't die." I'd have enjoyed it much more if i didn't know. Same goes for daryl when he was knocked out in the last episode. I simply didn't care because "he makes it anyway."
One thing I haven't seen anyone mentioning is the scene where everyone's happy, sitting around the table eating, I think it's a throwback to season 7 when Negan said to the group "Bet you thought you were all gonna grow old together, sittin’ around the table at Sunday dinner and the happily ever after. No. Doesn’t work like that"
I saw someone mentioned she was there because the music was so loud she was the obvious choice. I hadn't picked apart the scene but I think both observations make perfect sense.
I thought that was pretty obvious. TWD cast and crew made sure that the actress who plays Connie (and is actually deaf IRL) felt welcomed and valued on the show. This scene clearly wasn't making fun of her, not sure how Typewriter missed that!
I was in tears as Rosita explained the situation. I love her character, but love it or hate it, her and Eugene’s actors were pouring their hearts out. Such an incredible scene.
I don’t think you remember when daryl told Rick in season 5 "we ain’t them" he was always right our group was just at such a low point that in order to survive they had to be, but not anymore
100% true. I said that during our watch party of the finale. When Daryl said “We ain’t the walking dead” I immediately reminded our friends of Rick saying “we ain’t them”. Such beautiful closure there.
@@thethriftytypewriter also it's from the comics. Rick midway through the series says "we are the walking dead" then in his climatic end speech he says "we are NOT the walking dead"
What is totally crazy to me is how they announced the spin offs months before the final season ended. In hindsight that really ruined the overall experience for me because it meant everyone was safe
The scene with Connie leaning on the speaker is because she is death. She can’t hear, deaf people still listen to music, they tend to put their hands on speakers of doors in cars to feel the vibrations. Therefore I think the scene is to show that she’s feeling the vibration off the speaker.
Tbh the comic Rosita was the perfect side character tho helping progress so many stories because honestly even in the comics she was kinda boring asf so her main benefit was progressing others
I mean rosita wasn't my favorite character or anything. But just knowing she's a good mother and a badass made my like her character. She wasn't overly annoying and she even made Judith cheer up. I thought I wouldnt care if she died but it's how she died that makes it special. I'd say Rosita probably had the most heart felt death. She got to see that family danner that negan thought was impossible. She got to talk to her love ones and say goodbye to her baby. It was sad but beautiful end which is fitting for a finale. All in all it was a good ending for the show.
I liked that the sniper maggie uses intending to kill Pamela was the same one Gabriel took to shoot carver with back in 11x09 and then negan telling her that prison is worse than death for Pamela, he's talking from his experience as he used to be like Pamela. Negan pointing this out finally brings maggie around to ricks way of thinking after season 8. EDIT: Also when Daryl says "We ain't the walking dead', that's lifted straight from the comics as that is a part of Rick's speech to the commonwealth where he finally realises that they can have a safe and happy life now with and at the commonwealth. The walking dead in universe means that the survivors are living on borrowed time, it's inevitable that they will die soon and don't have a future. When he says they aren't the walking dead it means they have a future now, something to look forward to as they aren't going to randomly be killed in their sleep or getting food anymore. It's not a contradiction to Rick, it's coming to the end of that thinking he adopted from his grandfather
@MITREA DENIS ANTONIO False, direct quote from Rick "He said he was dead the minute he stepped into enemy territory, every day he woke up and told himself 'Rest in peace now get up and go to war' and then after a few years of pretending he was dead, he made it out alive" Literally none of that directly points at the morality of what his grandfather was doing but it points to him believing himself to already be dead to make coping with the fact he'd likely die much easier. The survivors essentially liberating the commonwealth is the end of the war so to speak. They are no longer going to die for sure, they're no longer on borrowed time. We could say that the borrow time makes them do inhumane things but that's not the main message
There was a really big missed opportunity to end Judith’s story. When she was shot at the end and taken to the hospital, she should have been left behind as everyone leaves to fight walkers. Maybe Daryl went to help the group fight off the walkers and accidentally gets blocked off from Judith. Forced to flee the scene, they have to assume the walkers got to her. It’ll be a sad and emotional moment but everything still could have ended more so the same. Cut to a shot of Judith walking out of an empty hospital, and a wasteland all around her.
I thought something like that would happen, when Daryl blocked the door of the hospital room. But I actually was glad they didn't take that route. I just don't really see a narrative benefit in having the show end with Judith walking out of the hospital just to mirror one of Ricks first scenes.
I'm really hoping that Bear McCreary ends up releasing soundtrack albums for every season of the show, I think TWD has some of the greatest music in TV and it would be such a shame if it never gets officially released (I know he put out a soundtrack album a while back but there's so much that it left out)
I was just thinking about TWD soundtrack. It’s really awesome - I love how S9 brought in folk music since they’re rebuilding society and Luke (RIP) was able to make instruments.
What?!?! Rosita may not have had the biggest role in the show, but she WAS the calvary so many times. She was a Jack-of-all-trades (like Eugene), and shows she’s ready to sacrifice herself for someone else several times… sometimes to the point of being reckless. She does not hesitate to do the heavy lifting when it comes down to it and puts herself out there. She is caring and repeatedly shows her humanity, but doesn’t let people get away with shit. She is eager to teach the Alexandrians self defense so they can make the entire group stronger. She seems to have true inner strength, but can take care of business. She was one of my most favorite characters, and I’ll always miss her.
That wasn’t making fun of Connie. That was a depiction of how Connie was experiencing the vibrations from the speakers. Deaf people can still enjoy music. They feel the vibrations. Especially if it’s this loud. Also, I think you’re missing a lot of subtle emotional motivations. I’m surprised at the things you find baffling. But it’s all just my opinion, obviously.
I really enjoyed the finale, I think it did & didn’t feel like a series finale, it did in the respect of bringing everyone together & calling back to past characters & closing out the commonwealth arc & leaving the show in a state of hope but it didn’t in the fact that we didn’t get full closure for everybody, mostly the five characters that will be heading off on their spin-offs, the end with Rick & Michonne & the voiceovers was perfect in my book.
I just want a new walking dead series that focuses on a small close-knit group that's constantly moving around and trying to survive. The walkers became more of an inconvenience than a threat after season 3. The Walking Dead was at its best when the zombies were the threat and the survivors doing their best to survive. And I hate that they brought back the variants only at the very end. Would've been nice to see more of them
Sadly that won’t happen since they are focusing on larger and larger communities now. I think the survival part is kind of over and we are in the “rebuilding of the world” arc of TWD. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if Tales of TWD gets retconned and the group finds way to kill giant herds of walkers and they retake the world. In the new Daryl series they mentioned that scientists were creating super zombies that only focused on killing other walkers and once their job was done, they blew up. I think that’s what the survivors will use to take the world back from the dead, it’ll be the dead killing the dead which is so ironic
My only gripe with the finale is that Daryl had basically no reaction to hearing Rick is alive and we didn’t even get to see the rest of the group hear about Rick
That's why I left the show years ago ....Daryl and Rick became the soul of TWD . Carl's story should have went further with Judith ...The choices they made seem almost deliberately done to spit in your face. It's the same thing Naughty Dog/SONY did to the Last Of Us fans , total double middle finger to those who made them successful...the FANS.
@@Airik1111bibles EXACTLY! Carl really should’ve been the one to hear the Rick is alive imagine his reaction dude, AMC is just full of cheap greedy dipshits
I really didn't care about most of the finale episode because I had grown so numb to the series (I basically binge watched it over a few weeks). But I gotta say, Daryl saying goodbye to his closest people, and Judith telling him he deserves to be happy too broke me.
I'm gonna be honest and say Rosita was an incredibly loved Character in my and I'm sure many other people's eyes. She was annoying a bit through the series but she grew and improved and she became one of my favorites. I had a lot of tears when she died.
idk i didnt find rosita death been dragging on, in my opinion it all happened really really fast. i can imagine if you dont like the characters that this could be dreading, but rosita was alexandria's guardian in times daryl and carol were busy with the whisperers. she saved the future of the world multiple times (the kids) and is all around an awesome character in my opinion
@@thethriftytypewriter Yeah, he definitely deserves one. I'll never forget when I first saw him in tears on that bolder in Season 5 and then he spewed because he was so scared. Look how far he came. I think TWD writing team handled his storyline the best. Other than his story ending and seeing Rick and Michonne again, I agree it felt very much like a typical season finale instead of a series finale. But it probably felt like that because of all the spin-offs. TWD should have waited until the after the series finale to tell us about all the spin-offs. Would have made it more impactful. But again, they did Carl dirty. Not even an honorable mention or flashback to his character that I can recall.
I agree even though I've never liked Gabriel and I never understood what Rosita saw in him however this story arc was amazing. I still don't like this character and hope he's not in any of the spin offs. I do hope that down the road we get a TWD Season 12 that focuses on the children all grown up and how they improved society in the future beyond their parents achievements and how they prepare their children for picking up the torch. I want to see Lydia have a family with Elijah and watch Gracie & Judith remain BFFs for life. Watching RJ grow into becoming Rick Grimes 2.0 with Judith keeping him grounded. Connie was also one of my favorites and I want to see her and Daryl have that happy ending someday. I also hope Carol gets her own spin off at some point so in the story time line she is the first person Daryl goes to see once he finds his way back from Europe when everyone is much older. I really want to see Carol become a wizen old woman filled with knowledge backing the plays and watching over the adult children of the original series. I want to see her truly become the Den Mother (matriarch) of the next generation.
@@wren907 I hated him in the beginning. But I really liked the actor (Seth Gilliam) because he was in The Wire. I hated when he ratted out the group to Deanna in Season 5, when they arrived at Alexandria. But I started liking him around Season 6, when he killed that Savior at the satellite outpost. I respectfully disagree about having yet another spin-off. I feel like all these spin-offs cheapen the original series and is just milking the franchise for money.
@@HellAintHalfFull oh I don't mean right now but several yrs down the road. I doubt all 3 current spin offs with last beyond a few seasons. Once they end... A yr or two later when all the characters are much older in real life. We wouldn't need more that a couple original characters to make it work. I think the actor did a great job but Gabriel is the type of guy I would make a point of never getting to know and I truly never saw Rosita's attraction to such a character.
Rosita's death had me bawlin ngl. And then right after I got it together, the credits rolled, and processing that it was all over, got me the most, and I cried for days.
Another comment said this and I actually was hoping the same thing happened when I watched it. When Daryl barricaded the door to Judith's room just as Shane did to Rick, I truly hoped that she wouldve had no choice but to have been left and presumed dead, to then come back way later just as Rick had done. Wouldve been the best parallel.
In the comics, in the second to last issue. (192) Rick gives a speech in the commonwealth saying, “we are not the walking dead” it’s actually his last speech he gave before getting shot by Sebastian, I’m glad Daryl said that filling in his place.
How does "we ain't the walking dead" not sit right with you? In the very scene which Rick says "We are the walking dead", Daryl says, "We ain't them". This is callback to that AND a reference to the comics
@@robopistachio2369 no rick says his we are the walking dead speech but daryl tells him, "we ain't them" so not only was it a reference to Rick's we are not the walking dead speech in the comics it's also a callback to that moment
In the moment and the way he says it just feels out of place and forced in my opinion. The line and what he says leading up to it could have been delivered better and it would be okay. Even Norman said he didn't want to say it, but they talked him into it.
This episode fucked with my emotions so hard 😂 When rosita went down with coco I almost started to cry. When she got up and started to swing I started to scream. But later when she told Eugene she was bit it hit me along with him. I know she didnt have a HUGE role in the show but she was still part of our groups family.
It was dumb. Somehow the zombie mysteriously got through like 4 layers of clothes, hoodie with the hood in the way making another layer, a coat, shirt, and possibly an under shirt. All without leaving a hole in any of those clothes.
maybe see a guy? like i well up at some baaasic stuff i know ive got some stuff i need to address myself lol but emotional of any sort this was not - unless you count funny - i laughed a few times at how dumb it all is
@@bigdoubleu117 have you seen these zombies man? i have no doubt they coolule get through that seeming as they they tear through solid skin with bare arms, not like they can grow nails to help them anyway.
Negan actually gave Judith her *compass* back that she let him borrow when he first got out of Alexandria, hence “it’ll help you find your way like it helped me find mine” or whatever similar thing negan wrote
I'm sad after finishing up The Walking Dead. A show that made me happy for all these years was now reaching its end. The journey was fantastic and despite the mistakes, plot holes and bad writing, I'll never forget the excitement of watching the show and the anticipation of what comes after. Rick Grimes' legacy shall continue on forever. #LongLiveTheWalkingDead
Rosita’s death devastated me. They some how found the one character death that really could get to me. I would have like to seen a “Cops” style show with her and Daryl when they were in the commonwealth task force. She was such a bad add this season.
AMC did Angela Kang dirty. She was clearly taking a season to transition to the common wealth arc and had it sped up with the sudden cancelation of the series . the series final episodes which were already doomed to be rushed were dampened by the early announcements of the spin off details. This was not created as a series finale and acted like more of a season finale. As a season finale it was okay...as a series finale it fell flat in every way it could except for the acting by Christian Serratos and Dan Fogler.
Even though I had a feeling they where gonna kill off Rosita I didn’t expect it to be in that way those scenes where actually sad as she’s always been a likeable character even if she’s never the main focus
like you said at the end, i think you spending the entire episode awaiting rick's return definitely affected your viewing experience. the episodes become one of my favorites of the entire show, if not in the history of television and i didn't expect rick to show up at all so i was just all in at every minute. also, from what i saw it feels like you were watching the episode on AMC+, which i think kind of changes the feeling of finality in the episode. without ad breaks, you don't really get the same sense of excitement or tension. however i do agree with you about rosita's death. i liked her a lot from seasons 4-7 but she never really became a favorite so her death wasn't that impactful and felt a little bit drawn out. but i just feel like it shouldn't have been the single MAJOR death, killing off gabriel, aaron or even just jerry would have definitely made this feel more like a finale.
My theory is that after all the spin off shows the group will finally reunite with Rick, and we will get a true final season 12 and series finale of the walking dead where they take on whoever has been keeping Rick hostage this whole time.
Hey TTT! Great vids man, as usual. Love em all especially ur breakdown of old episodes. Hope u do each episode from start to finish. Anyways, I was so surprised at Luke's death. Not because he died but because the other actors acting felt real and made me actually care and feel bad. I was like 90% Luke was gone and didn't give af but they put on a good ass performance and made me care. Was a little bummed we didn't see Mercers reaction to rosita death but pretty dope "finale" only REAL like WTF? Complaint I had was the makeup. I may be speaking outta school here but pretty sure they've won awards for makeup n practical effects yet... ahhh ok so that black eye on Darrel shouldn't be that prevalent or dark. He got knocked out and woke up same day. Aint no way it'd be that black. I been hit in the face plenty and it swells n turns red/purple first but makeup said fuck all that make that shit black as night. Small nitpick. Man I love this show. I love ur channel and can't wait for the spinoffs. But 6 episode rick n michonne spinoff don't seem like enough to tell the story amd do it justice. What are the chances they doin these 3 spinoffs to build hype and interest and roll the story into a real movie theater movie for the absolute finale? I know gimple n em still want them movies. They been saying forever that they want a walking dead universe akin to the MCU so I'm sure that's their endgoal. Idk just spitballin I suppose. Thanks again T³ can't wait for more from u.🖤🖤🖤
Fun fact. The song they used in the explosion scene was "cult of personality" by living color. The song's about tyrannical leaders and corrupt politicians leading governments with references to stalin, Mussolini, and the book 1984. I think it was a really good choice for the scene.
I think one of the reasons that Rosita's death impacts some people is that for anyone who has a baby, toddler, or any age child I guess, it just makes you think about your kid and want to grab them and hug them. They really milked her death and I was freaking out when she fell back with the baby on her into that walker crowd. So I think that's really just playing into all parent's fears.
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Literally just finished this episode and I got to say I really enjoyed it. It’s one of my favorite episodes in the series. I love how everyone said we are the ones who live. It was such a cool moment to see how far they have come.
I liked almost all of "Magna's Group" except for Magna herself. But you're right, she really did almost nothing in the show... Except start shit with Michonne.
Agreed! Thank you for talking it about magnas group. Connie’s chemistry with Daryl was awesome. The rest of them blew and took the places of characters we’d been with for seasons. What a. Waste.
Rosita was amazing! Wdym just a side character??? I see where you are coming from and this episode doesn’t feel like the end, I am heartbroken that they would end it like this
I didn't realize the Gabe thing and that's why I love this channel! We met him after he left his congregation outside to die by the dead and it ended with him opening the doors to let them in before the dead could get them.
I actually thought it did feel like a finally. It tied up most loose ends, shows that Maggie has plans for expansion, Daryl and michone are looking foe rick will find him and rick is trying to find his way home and eventually will. It doesn't give you direct answers to how these things will happen but we know it will happen. Also the music in those final couple minutes are just so good
Daryl didn't go "looking" for Rick. He just said if he happens to find them he'll bring them home. I think he's on a mission to see what's out there in the world. It's probably part of Maggie's plan when she talks about the future.
@@xsizzlexster6495 You think? The much heavier implication is that he went to find Rick and Michonne. It's also most people's take on it. What Maggie said felt like HER plans, thus setting up her spinoff. But none of it was answered directly, people will just form their own ideas based on their perceptions. Therefore, you can't say "Daryl didn't go looking for Rick."
@@kimberlywilmoth9184 Daryl tells Judith: "While I'm out there if I hear anything or see anything, I'll find them both and bring them home alright?" Does that sound like he went looking for them? It's like me telling someone, "If I'm at the store and I see your favorite candy, I'll get it for you." That doesn't mean I went to buy their candy.
i mean, rosita is an amazing character if you like, pay attention to her scenes. they are very impactful and shes an extremely important and loved member of the group. she hasnt just "been there for a long time"
I actually don't quite agree with your analysis of Rosita's death. It was the appropriate amount of time and actually had a bittersweet meaning to it. She is a great B character, though under-utilized at times(though they all are at times due to the bloated cast). She's on par with Eugene, Aaron, and Gabriel. Her death was bittersweet because she actually was the only death I can recall where she went relatively peacefully. Comfortable in a bed, her daughter safe, saying goodbye to everyone she loves, and hopeful that things will be safe from then on. I think it was very relavent that the last death we see was not gruesome or terribly painful but peaceful. It had importance and that was chosen purposefully. With that said, I was totally devastated (I really just did not want to see another child be orphaned). I think a more fitting death that would have held importance would have been Eugene. His whole character arc was about cowardice vs bravery. Seeing him sacrifice himself and go out a hero would have been more fitting to me out of all the available characters (not that I particularly want to see him die but if it had to be an important character without the ones getting a spinoff).
This dude really said one or two notable scenes for Rosita when she’s one of the most badass characters in the show. She has tons of good and great scenes.
Father Gabriel opening the gates and saving all those people really was incredible. That shit gave me chills because I used to absolutely love this show and it feels like it’s coming all round
Why would you think Connie's speaker didn't work and she just stood there? Clearly, her speaker is fine, but she can't hear it, so she leans on it to feel the vibrations.
I 100% agree with everything you've said, Season 11 in general felt very rushed imo. You could see that there was a lot off issues with Actors either leaving or temporarily leaving between Season 9-11 which definitely effected the story
I don’t think this will be the final, final episode. I think that we’ll get a couple seasons of these spin offs, including Daryl, Rick & Michonne, Dead City, and who knows what else, before finally coming together for a big end game event for season 12 in a few years.
It felt very much like a finale, great closure for everyone, and the only real spinoff setup is Rick and Michonne's and the fact that we know they both are very much alive and searching for eachother is good enough. It felt like a finale that isn't whole yet until they wrap up Rick's story
@@mcoupe69 look pretty much everybody got a happy ending, Daryl, Rick and Michonnes stories technically arent over so it makes sense to leave those stories open, everyone knows they are all alive and we will most likely get a reunion at the end of the Rick and Michonne spin off
It absolutely felt like a finale. And a great one at that. I mean what are we even talking about here? We have to be allowed to imagine that the characters’ lives go on after the credits roll. It’s not that complicated. They don’t even “set up” spin-offs much at all. We saw glimpses into where these characters are at the end, but the real set up is clearly going to come in the first episode of each respective series. They closed the book on this story beautifully. Come on now, friends. It’s all right there in the episode. Very well done imo.
For sure, definitely my favorite Episode of the whole thing. The acting, emotions, music, action scenes, closure, and seeing Rick & Michonne return in the way they did... Luke's death had me emotional from the jump, Rosita's was even bigger, the variant walkers, Daryl & Judith, all the callbacks and parallels, Walker Hornsby, the EXPLOSION, and the final dinner were just a chef's kiss. Amazing finale! 11x24 - 'Rest in Peace'
I respectfully have to disagree. While we have some closure for characters like Ezekiel, Aaron, Lydia, Mercer, Connie, Etc, they are all the minor characters in the show. The main ones (Daryl, Maggie, Carol, Negan, of course Rick and Michonne) aren’t given even an ounce of closure. It doesn’t feel like a series finale because these characters have unfinished arcs and so many different questions that were set up even in just the past few episodes weren’t answered. As a season finale, I think this is a good episode. As a series finale, it doesn’t provide enough closure for the main characters, and that’s great because we’re getting more! But overall, nothing would’ve made this feel like a series finale to me unless Rick and Michonne were reunited with everyone, primarily their children.
@@thethriftytypewriter I don't think because they're leaving / going to the spinoffs means they didn't get closure, that final dialogue between Maggie & Negan where she tells him "I can't forgive you" is closure for those two. Daryl's final moment with Carol before riding off into the distance was closure for him. And the final "We're the ones who live" compilation with Rick & Michonne (which was way more than I ever expected us to get in this episode btw) was closure on where they've been, their fates, and yes, it does setup for their spin-offs, but I don't see that as lacking closure, their story isn't done yet, but in terms of the main show, it is. We'll see what else gets explored in their spin-offs, but they did an amazing job at wrapping the show's final arc with the Commonwealth and a glimpse into what's to come. Getting the CRM back for the finale was huge too, and the amount of new footage we got there went above and beyond my expectations, I was genuinely expecting a couple second end-credit scene with little-to-no dialogue that just showed Rick. The whole reunion between Rick & Judith (RJ too, who he's never met yet) is gonna be a huge moment, but I never expected that to happen in this episode, we still didn't even know what happened to him after the bridge, so getting that reunion this early would kind of kill-off the hype surrounding us watching their show, cause we'd be like "oh, welp, they reunited, that's it for me". - this moment will come, I just didn't see a place for it in the main show, especially right after the Commonwealth arc.
I agree, i'm really surprised and wonder why Rosita lasted so long on the show but not a more important character like Carl that we would have needed after Rick's departure.
I'm pretty sure B-17 was just the command to round up the herd around the commonwealth so that Pamela could initiate a lockdown. Also, that scene of Connie wasn't making a joke of her. I believe she was feeling the vibrations of the speaker to know that it was working. Overall I think this was a solid final episode. And I think Rosita was a crushing death, in my opinion anyway. She's been there since season 4 and she's had way more great moments than you say she did, imo. I just wish there were more deaths, and that more characters got a nice wrapped up ending. Gabriel, Negan, Mercer, and Rosita and Eugene are the only characters I can think of that had solid endings. Most other characters seemed to not have much to do, which isn't surprising considering so many of them were completely underutilized for most of their time on the show, like Magna and Luke.
When Mercer said that Pamela left thousands of people to die, he was referring to the majority of the Commonwealth she abandoned by calling all the soldiers to protect only the Estates where she was. Not just the people immediately outside that gate.
My dad cried during this, one it was ending and me and him have watched it since the start, and second the song when they were all eating was the song that they played at his dogs funeral.
I'm sorry, you content is usually really good but a lot of the issues you bring up for this episode are very pedantic and some criticisms are simply wrong. Sorry for the long post, but I feel your criticisms were a bit harsh. If you get to the end, thanks for reading lol For instance, it is easily inferred from the conversations in the episode that Mercer could get them inside the estates due to the loyalty he has with Commonwealth soldiers. You also criticise Daryl for 'leaving' after he said he wouldn't, when in actuality, at the end of the episode he is doing what Daryl has always done (which is scouting). I just assume he was saying bye to everyone because he goes away for longer than he used to when scouting. Again subtleties with the dialogue give this away, such as him telling Carol they'll see each other again, Connie asking him how the frontier is, Daryl saying that if he sees anything he'll bring Rick or Michonne home (not that he is leaving to bring them home). While we (as viewers) know this isn't the case and that Daryl is leaving, from a narrative standpoint the characters don't. Ever since the prison, Daryl has always left/been the one to leave to look for supplies (or people, later in Seasons 6-7). I can understand your gripe with Connie's group, particularly Magna and Luke. However, Lydia was not upset about Luke and Jules, she was upset of the thought of what happened to them happening to her boyfriend. Again, this is easily inferred by the dialogue. For the whole 'we ain't the walking dead' bit, Rick said 'we are' in reference to doing what they need to in order to survive until they don't need to just survive anymore, hence the switch in the saying. But, from that scene in Season 5, Daryl has always held that viewpoint of opposition - it's just that it fits better here. I've heard people complaining about how it changed from the source material from 'we aren't' to 'we ain't' but, let's be real, they can't change the way a character talks/their mannerisms just for one bit of dialogue - it would have come out even more clunky. The criticisms about Connie and the speaker, i'm not sure where that is coming from? I watched it an assumed she was setting up the main speaker due to being deaf - as others would be pained/uncomfortable with the level of noise? What makes you think it isn't working? Obviously, after the time skip it's the Commonwealth... And if you took the time to open your eyes, you'd see Lydia has a fake arm when hugging Judith. My only other criticism is that your reaction to Rick/Michonne returning makes it quite obvious that you've gone into this finale with clear expectations that weren't met and a bias that it was going to be objectively bad if your expectations weren't met. Your 'bad ending' due to 'bad writing' is a bad ending for you as it didn't give you everything you expected. Not that it was due to objectively bad writing. The writing was a lot better this episode (and season), and this was a fairly good ending for the show considering the objectively bad writing earlier in the show (and other circumstances such as Andrew Lincoln wanting written out for a few years for personal reasons). Angela Kang had her work cut out for her to make this a success and I think she's done a fantastic job in redeeming this show with what she had to work with. Sure there have been questionable decisions under her leadership but, I mean, it could have been an ending akin to that of GOT. I respect some of your opinions, but some of the things you claim as bad writing aren't really bad writing - they're just bad in your subjective opinion. My point being, it wasn't objectively bad.
All pretty fair points. And you are absolutely correct I went in with astronomical expectations because at the end of the day, I want to be as excited and delighted by this as every other fan, but my expectations weren’t met. That being said, I don’t think this is a bad finale, I just don’t think that this wrapped up our characters or story in a manner that I expected it to. I’m very glad to see that lots of people did enjoy the finale and got their closure from it, but personally I didn’t, and given that the “universe is expanding” this episode was never going to give absolute complete closure to anyone. I respect your comment and willingness to point out your facts in a fair manner, and perhaps I went a bit over the top in some examples, but my opinions are my opinions, and they don’t have to be shared by everyone. Opinions on this topic are all very clearly varied, and all come from the same place: our love for The Walking Dead.
@@thethriftytypewriter Having read it back my comment sounded a lot more aggressive at points that I meant lol - and yeah for sure, like I said, i respect your opinions that are subjectively based rather than objectively based. Sorry you didn't seem to enjoy it as much as others, but I guess when writing a show this big you can't please absolutely everyone. Especially for a show that's been going on around 12 years now. A lot of the subjective opinions you shared were very valid. I think more closure could have been achieved if, for example, Rick's body was never found and we never saw the Jadis scene (leaving Rick's fate a complete mystery). Or if Michonne left after finding Rick's stuff (again leaving her fate a complete mystery, known only to Judith). All of that, with a reveal of what was going on with Rick and Michonne in the finale, while keeping it a mystery, could have worked better from a closure standpoint (and maybe, not telling us about the spin offs till 2023). Characters leave the show/we never find out their fate (for absolute certain) all the time. Think of Dawn's group, or the Vatos (minus the deleted scene). While it would have been a much bigger deal to leave Rick and Michonne's fate a mystery - I think it may have sealed the deal a little bit more for people? After all is said and done, it could have been better but also could have been A LOT worse.
@@iM_not_E Well, when Eugene and Rosita were talking, he mentioned 'swimming at oceanside' which would imply they'd be fine after Lance and Pamela's reign of terror. After all, they were taken over like Alexandria, but most likely liberated after the fall of Pamela's rule. Eugene's off hand mention implies this, otherwise, why would Rosita take her child to somewhere that 1) no longer exists or 2) isn't safe. I think the walker thing was to imply that the horde had variants, and set up them climbing the wall later on. Either that, or the knife walker was responsible for the first Commonwealth jeep that was taken out (just before Mercer's arrest). We did see walkers wielding rocks, which would have been low-key out of place without the knife walker to demonstrate there's more than one variant. Up until the knife walker, there was no sure way to know if the first variant walker we saw in S11 was an outlier or not. Would have been nice to see it again but, subjectively from my own opinion, it doesn't matter as much as some of the other points brought up in the video (and the comments after the fact).
I actually missed the line where Judith tells Daryl Rick is alive and I don't think she actually says those words but that Michonne left to find him and she didn't tell him because she thought he would leave too, which is basically what she said all the way back in 10x15, so yeah this was a pretty underwhelming moment, it was the BIG REVEAL we've all been waiting for, how the characters and most importantly Daryl will find out Rick is alive, and it turns out to just be Judith who's been holding onto that secret all this time since Michonne left (which no one talked about until 11x23), and then he just leaves a year later with no leads. It's really poorly done tbh and that being the most important thing alongside who lives and dies and how the characters arcs are ended, it couldve been done SO much better. And we know Daryl ends up in Paris, and in interviews we've learned that Daryl doesn't even know how he ended up there, so is this literally the last time we see him until he magically wakes up in France???? If so this is underwhelming as fuck
This Series Finale felt more like a cliffhanger for another season than anything else...
Because it is they announced movies and spin offs a while ago
That was exactly the way I felt about it. Not necessarily a bad thing but it left me thinking…ok this must be setup for a movie or something.
same honestly
Preeeeeetty sure that was the whole idea
@@insertnamehere2635 Sure but i think what they're saying is TWD Season Finale didn't seem like a *Series* Finale. Like the way they ended that episode leaves so much room for a season 12 instead they're jumping into spinoffs and movies. Not how I imagined the series ending. Even giving way to new series in the universe it didn't feel like a finale.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan said it would’ve been better if they hadn’t announced the spinoff shows before the final season aired and that got him in hot water from AMC executives, but I agree with him. Knowing that the main characters survive the finale kind of spoils it and takes away from the drama and tension, y’know? Imagine how much better a scene would be if you don’t have that information and you’re thinking “Oh shit, is so-and-so gonna die here??”
Exactly! I thought the spin offs were fake because they had fake comic issues announced just to throw off fans to not anticipate the ending. But that was the comics, this is TV.
Yup, kinda like Marvel announcing the Spiderman movie before Infinity War and literally writing at the end of the film: Spiderman will return... Like thanks Marvel.
@@anthonymangia8890 they also announced "Carl's last episode" and "ricks last episode" like wtf is that . Imagine if they announced "glens last episode" Also they haven't had the balls to kill off a major character since Glenn and Abraham
@@emilianodiaz641Paul Rovia wasn’t a main character? I wasn’t watching regularly by then, but have gone back and even watched reaction vids where folks seemed pretty upset at his departure
Yeah. Like the scene where negan has to kneel down in alexandria. Jeffrey acted the shit out of it, and i enjoyed the symbolism very much! I even thought it would be nice for maggy to see that! but at the same time i was like "oh. Am i supposed to care about him right now? Come on. We already know he won't die."
I'd have enjoyed it much more if i didn't know. Same goes for daryl when he was knocked out in the last episode. I simply didn't care because "he makes it anyway."
One thing I haven't seen anyone mentioning is the scene where everyone's happy, sitting around the table eating, I think it's a throwback to season 7 when Negan said to the group "Bet you thought you were all gonna grow old together, sittin’ around the table at Sunday dinner and the happily ever after. No. Doesn’t work like that"
Yeah that scene didn’t hit for me. Most people at the table were extreme side characters
@@pan7374 definitely
@@pan7374 I thought it was only me who thought that .
@@Jay-okc lmao yeah it’s like “yay Steve Stevenson we met in season 10e17 survived
It was a nice ending for Rosita.
The scene with Connie was her pov of her hearing. She was feeling the vibrations, imo to make sure it was working. I liked that scene
I saw someone mentioned she was there because the music was so loud she was the obvious choice. I hadn't picked apart the scene but I think both observations make perfect sense.
I thought that was pretty obvious. TWD cast and crew made sure that the actress who plays Connie (and is actually deaf IRL) felt welcomed and valued on the show. This scene clearly wasn't making fun of her, not sure how Typewriter missed that!
I definitely thought she was feeling the speaker vibration
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@@RockStationForChrist given earlier on Daryl somehow acquired a book on us sign language XD Daryl gives off such day energy
I loved the part where Daryl said "we are the walking dead" and than started walking all over the place
I am so fucking sick of this joke.
@@Couch_Banana hopefully it'll die eventually
@@Couch_Banana real
Wow bro so funny first time ive heard that one..
@@scottsspot what joke? It happened, I was just commenting on my favorite scene
I was in tears as Rosita explained the situation. I love her character, but love it or hate it, her and Eugene’s actors were pouring their hearts out. Such an incredible scene.
Fr bro I was crying she’s my favorite character
I guess I felt bad for Eugene but he deserves so much better, glad he finally stopped simping
I don’t understand his Rosita dislike. I loved her as a character and thought she was a main character just like Maggie.
I don’t think you remember when daryl told Rick in season 5 "we ain’t them" he was always right our group was just at such a low point that in order to survive they had to be, but not anymore
Didn’t look at it that way, but I see your point!
100% true. I said that during our watch party of the finale. When Daryl said “We ain’t the walking dead” I immediately reminded our friends of Rick saying “we ain’t them”. Such beautiful closure there.
@@thethriftytypewriter also it's from the comics. Rick midway through the series says "we are the walking dead" then in his climatic end speech he says "we are NOT the walking dead"
What exactly does that mean? Sorry I’m a bit slow when it comes to that sort of thing
they are like them.... they just fake.
What is totally crazy to me is how they announced the spin offs months before the final season ended. In hindsight that really ruined the overall experience for me because it meant everyone was safe
The scene with Connie leaning on the speaker is because she is death. She can’t hear, deaf people still listen to music, they tend to put their hands on speakers of doors in cars to feel the vibrations. Therefore I think the scene is to show that she’s feeling the vibration off the speaker.
Really yeah.. Really lmao you actually took time to wright that bolloxs thanks for caring lmao slink.
@@youarekiddingme1346 lol what
@@youarekiddingme1346 goof
@@youarekiddingme1346 what are u talkin about and what tf are u tryna say💀💀
Right, this guy is just a hater
Rostias death actually made me cry, I thought the actors did an incredible job delivering an emotional yet accepting performance
I think Rosita was one of the more impactful characters in the show, at least compared to her comic book iteration, huge step up from that...
Tbh the comic Rosita was the perfect side character tho helping progress so many stories because honestly even in the comics she was kinda boring asf so her main benefit was progressing others
As someone who read the comic series recently, let me TV Rosita was more of a character than her comic counterpart.
That scene where Rick throws his backpack on that boat is the same boat that Michone found Rick's belongings on it must have happened in the past
I mean rosita wasn't my favorite character or anything. But just knowing she's a good mother and a badass made my like her character. She wasn't overly annoying and she even made Judith cheer up. I thought I wouldnt care if she died but it's how she died that makes it special. I'd say Rosita probably had the most heart felt death. She got to see that family danner that negan thought was impossible. She got to talk to her love ones and say goodbye to her baby. It was sad but beautiful end which is fitting for a finale. All in all it was a good ending for the show.
I liked that the sniper maggie uses intending to kill Pamela was the same one Gabriel took to shoot carver with back in 11x09 and then negan telling her that prison is worse than death for Pamela, he's talking from his experience as he used to be like Pamela. Negan pointing this out finally brings maggie around to ricks way of thinking after season 8.
EDIT: Also when Daryl says "We ain't the walking dead', that's lifted straight from the comics as that is a part of Rick's speech to the commonwealth where he finally realises that they can have a safe and happy life now with and at the commonwealth. The walking dead in universe means that the survivors are living on borrowed time, it's inevitable that they will die soon and don't have a future. When he says they aren't the walking dead it means they have a future now, something to look forward to as they aren't going to randomly be killed in their sleep or getting food anymore. It's not a contradiction to Rick, it's coming to the end of that thinking he adopted from his grandfather
sure... but thats not what "the walking dead" means. it just means that they dont have to be inhumane anymore
@MITREA DENIS ANTONIO False, direct quote from Rick "He said he was dead the minute he stepped into enemy territory, every day he woke up and told himself 'Rest in peace now get up and go to war' and then after a few years of pretending he was dead, he made it out alive"
Literally none of that directly points at the morality of what his grandfather was doing but it points to him believing himself to already be dead to make coping with the fact he'd likely die much easier. The survivors essentially liberating the commonwealth is the end of the war so to speak. They are no longer going to die for sure, they're no longer on borrowed time. We could say that the borrow time makes them do inhumane things but that's not the main message
@@SkaterBladesfalse it means in order to survive the world full of despair one must let despair be within themselves
Connies speaker was working. She was feeling the vibrations.
Man seeing that picture of everyone on the road at 4:48 really brought me back. They were so damn cool. Time just flies by I swear.
S5 group was the best
I think Daryl didn’t know the Walkers can now use rocks to break glass so Judith wasn’t safe in the room anymore so they had to take her with them
There was a really big missed opportunity to end Judith’s story. When she was shot at the end and taken to the hospital, she should have been left behind as everyone leaves to fight walkers. Maybe Daryl went to help the group fight off the walkers and accidentally gets blocked off from Judith. Forced to flee the scene, they have to assume the walkers got to her. It’ll be a sad and emotional moment but everything still could have ended more so the same. Cut to a shot of Judith walking out of an empty hospital, and a wasteland all around her.
This would’ve actually been such a great ending.
That’s actually dope
Was hoping for that as well
I thought something like that would happen, when Daryl blocked the door of the hospital room. But I actually was glad they didn't take that route. I just don't really see a narrative benefit in having the show end with Judith walking out of the hospital just to mirror one of Ricks first scenes.
Would have been a cool parallel to how the whole thing started
I'm really hoping that Bear McCreary ends up releasing soundtrack albums for every season of the show, I think TWD has some of the greatest music in TV and it would be such a shame if it never gets officially released (I know he put out a soundtrack album a while back but there's so much that it left out)
I was just thinking about TWD soundtrack. It’s really awesome - I love how S9 brought in folk music since they’re rebuilding society and Luke (RIP) was able to make instruments.
Definitely
Crazy how talented Bear is. I just finished God of war Ragnarock and the score was just incredible.
I've watched 5.5 seasons and the only music piece i remember from him is his arrangement of 28 Days Later in S1 when Shane punches Carol's husband
@@glibchubik4090 Well it's not the exact same song but I feel like it definitely was somewhat of a tribute to it
I felt like it was the end of an Entire era. Now we are in a new one.
lol America 2023 is a walking dead spinoff
What?!?!
Rosita may not have had the biggest role in the show, but she WAS the calvary so many times. She was a Jack-of-all-trades (like Eugene), and shows she’s ready to sacrifice herself for someone else several times… sometimes to the point of being reckless. She does not hesitate to do the heavy lifting when it comes down to it and puts herself out there. She is caring and repeatedly shows her humanity, but doesn’t let people get away with shit. She is eager to teach the Alexandrians self defense so they can make the entire group stronger. She seems to have true inner strength, but can take care of business. She was one of my most favorite characters, and I’ll always miss her.
That wasn’t making fun of Connie. That was a depiction of how Connie was experiencing the vibrations from the speakers. Deaf people can still enjoy music. They feel the vibrations. Especially if it’s this loud.
Also, I think you’re missing a lot of subtle emotional motivations. I’m surprised at the things you find baffling.
But it’s all just my opinion, obviously.
Should've kept it to yourself lmao
@@TrippieFox if this youtuber could talk about his opinion on this show, what makes a comment any different?
the episode was dogshit ngl, if they didn’t show rick everyone would’ve hated the finale
Totally agree
I never thought of that Connie is literally the only character I really cared for in the later seasons and Kelly too
I thought Judith was shot in the chest but it looks like it was an arm/shoulder shot. Much easier to recover from.
I really enjoyed the finale, I think it did & didn’t feel like a series finale, it did in the respect of bringing everyone together & calling back to past characters & closing out the commonwealth arc & leaving the show in a state of hope but it didn’t in the fact that we didn’t get full closure for everybody, mostly the five characters that will be heading off on their spin-offs, the end with Rick & Michonne & the voiceovers was perfect in my book.
Cap was rubbish lmao rosita been fucked by about 5 members of the group who cares about her death
“We are the ones who live” the most inspiring quote
I just want a new walking dead series that focuses on a small close-knit group that's constantly moving around and trying to survive. The walkers became more of an inconvenience than a threat after season 3.
The Walking Dead was at its best when the zombies were the threat and the survivors doing their best to survive.
And I hate that they brought back the variants only at the very end. Would've been nice to see more of them
Sadly that won’t happen since they are focusing on larger and larger communities now. I think the survival part is kind of over and we are in the “rebuilding of the world” arc of TWD. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if Tales of TWD gets retconned and the group finds way to kill giant herds of walkers and they retake the world. In the new Daryl series they mentioned that scientists were creating super zombies that only focused on killing other walkers and once their job was done, they blew up. I think that’s what the survivors will use to take the world back from the dead, it’ll be the dead killing the dead which is so ironic
My only gripe with the finale is that Daryl had basically no reaction to hearing Rick is alive and we didn’t even get to see the rest of the group hear about Rick
That's why I left the show years ago ....Daryl and Rick became the soul of TWD . Carl's story should have went further with Judith ...The choices they made seem almost deliberately done to spit in your face.
It's the same thing Naughty Dog/SONY did to the Last Of Us fans , total double middle finger to those who made them successful...the FANS.
@@Airik1111bibles EXACTLY! Carl really should’ve been the one to hear the Rick is alive imagine his reaction dude, AMC is just full of cheap greedy dipshits
@Airik-tc7dh
Rick is the Soul..wd should have had Carl, as in the Comics...
Judith, definitely wasn't built up the Same as Carl. .ja
@@Airik1111biblesshut up
@@karengoldenthal2889shut up
By Daryl being a universal blood donor he could have gave his blood to Carl back in season 2 when Carl got shot
Did you forget that he spent all his time looking for Sophia?
He didn’t need to Rick did.
He wasn’t with them when Carl got shot though, he came to the farm the next day I think.
I really didn't care about most of the finale episode because I had grown so numb to the series (I basically binge watched it over a few weeks). But I gotta say, Daryl saying goodbye to his closest people, and Judith telling him he deserves to be happy too broke me.
I'm gonna be honest and say Rosita was an incredibly loved Character in my and I'm sure many other people's eyes. She was annoying a bit through the series but she grew and improved and she became one of my favorites. I had a lot of tears when she died.
idk i didnt find rosita death been dragging on, in my opinion it all happened really really fast. i can imagine if you dont like the characters that this could be dreading, but rosita was alexandria's guardian in times daryl and carol were busy with the whisperers. she saved the future of the world multiple times (the kids) and is all around an awesome character in my opinion
Bob had a longer bite-death than rosita 💀
If I'm being honest, I think Father Gabriel had one of the best character arcs in the series.
Completely agree! He’s my next character analysis video!
@@thethriftytypewriter Yeah, he definitely deserves one. I'll never forget when I first saw him in tears on that bolder in Season 5 and then he spewed because he was so scared. Look how far he came. I think TWD writing team handled his storyline the best. Other than his story ending and seeing Rick and Michonne again, I agree it felt very much like a typical season finale instead of a series finale. But it probably felt like that because of all the spin-offs. TWD should have waited until the after the series finale to tell us about all the spin-offs. Would have made it more impactful. But again, they did Carl dirty. Not even an honorable mention or flashback to his character that I can recall.
I agree even though I've never liked Gabriel and I never understood what Rosita saw in him however this story arc was amazing.
I still don't like this character and hope he's not in any of the spin offs. I do hope that down the road we get a TWD Season 12 that focuses on the children all grown up and how they improved society in the future beyond their parents achievements and how they prepare their children for picking up the torch. I want to see Lydia have a family with Elijah and watch Gracie & Judith remain BFFs for life. Watching RJ grow into becoming Rick Grimes 2.0 with Judith keeping him grounded.
Connie was also one of my favorites and I want to see her and Daryl have that happy ending someday. I also hope Carol gets her own spin off at some point so in the story time line she is the first person Daryl goes to see once he finds his way back from Europe when everyone is much older. I really want to see Carol become a wizen old woman filled with knowledge backing the plays and watching over the adult children of the original series. I want to see her truly become the Den Mother (matriarch) of the next generation.
@@wren907 I hated him in the beginning. But I really liked the actor (Seth Gilliam) because he was in The Wire. I hated when he ratted out the group to Deanna in Season 5, when they arrived at Alexandria. But I started liking him around Season 6, when he killed that Savior at the satellite outpost. I respectfully disagree about having yet another spin-off. I feel like all these spin-offs cheapen the original series and is just milking the franchise for money.
@@HellAintHalfFull oh I don't mean right now but several yrs down the road. I doubt all 3 current spin offs with last beyond a few seasons. Once they end... A yr or two later when all the characters are much older in real life. We wouldn't need more that a couple original characters to make it work.
I think the actor did a great job but Gabriel is the type of guy I would make a point of never getting to know and I truly never saw Rosita's attraction to such a character.
Rosita's death had me bawlin ngl. And then right after I got it together, the credits rolled, and processing that it was all over, got me the most, and I cried for days.
It’s a tv show relax
@@Z3AL316 let people enjoy things smh. This show meant a lot to people so it makes sense they're sad that the main show is done.
I enjoyed your commentary of the show & glad you will continue to share it for the upcoming spin-offs!!
With Connie, you couldn't hear the speaker but there's a booming which is the speakers vibrations that shes feeling with her arms on the speaker
Another comment said this and I actually was hoping the same thing happened when I watched it. When Daryl barricaded the door to Judith's room just as Shane did to Rick, I truly hoped that she wouldve had no choice but to have been left and presumed dead, to then come back way later just as Rick had done. Wouldve been the best parallel.
In the comics, in the second to last issue. (192) Rick gives a speech in the commonwealth saying, “we are not the walking dead” it’s actually his last speech he gave before getting shot by Sebastian, I’m glad Daryl said that filling in his place.
Ikr, this dude doesn't even know, he should be informed of this.
@@diaperfang5293 fr
Does that make it any less stupid?
Wait Rick dies by getting shoot? That's kinda stupid lol.
@@cngotham4111 yeah, the second to last issue in the comics Sebastian kills Rick
The reason it doesn't feel like the end of the walking dead? Is because it isn't.
Sums up the video pretty well 😂
How does "we ain't the walking dead" not sit right with you? In the very scene which Rick says "We are the walking dead", Daryl says, "We ain't them". This is callback to that AND a reference to the comics
Doesn't rick say "we aint them"
@@robopistachio2369 no rick says his we are the walking dead speech but daryl tells him, "we ain't them" so not only was it a reference to Rick's we are not the walking dead speech in the comics it's also a callback to that moment
In the moment and the way he says it just feels out of place and forced in my opinion. The line and what he says leading up to it could have been delivered better and it would be okay. Even Norman said he didn't want to say it, but they talked him into it.
@@SteelOnYTshut up
This episode fucked with my emotions so hard 😂
When rosita went down with coco I almost started to cry.
When she got up and started to swing I started to scream.
But later when she told Eugene she was bit it hit me along with him.
I know she didnt have a HUGE role in the show but she was still part of our groups family.
It was dumb. Somehow the zombie mysteriously got through like 4 layers of clothes, hoodie with the hood in the way making another layer, a coat, shirt, and possibly an under shirt. All without leaving a hole in any of those clothes.
maybe see a guy? like i well up at some baaasic stuff i know ive got some stuff i need to address myself lol but emotional of any sort this was not - unless you count funny - i laughed a few times at how dumb it all is
ew Eugene should have went with her - and our family? - norman redus dont know you xD
@@bigdoubleu117 have you seen these zombies man? i have no doubt they coolule get through that seeming as they they tear through solid skin with bare arms, not like they can grow nails to help them anyway.
That Gabriel arc insight I didn’t catch at first that’s actually really cool. Loved the video and pretty much agreed with it all.
Negan actually gave Judith her *compass* back that she let him borrow when he first got out of Alexandria, hence “it’ll help you find your way like it helped me find mine” or whatever similar thing negan wrote
I'm sad after finishing up The Walking Dead. A show that made me happy for all these years was now reaching its end. The journey was fantastic and despite the mistakes, plot holes and bad writing, I'll never forget the excitement of watching the show and the anticipation of what comes after. Rick Grimes' legacy shall continue on forever. #LongLiveTheWalkingDead
Rosita’s death devastated me. They some how found the one character death that really could get to me. I would have like to seen a “Cops” style show with her and Daryl when they were in the commonwealth task force. She was such a bad add this season.
I actually really enjoy your videos, I love the consistency of your channel.
Keep up the good work 👍
AMC did Angela Kang dirty. She was clearly taking a season to transition to the common wealth arc and had it sped up with the sudden cancelation of the series . the series final episodes which were already doomed to be rushed were dampened by the early announcements of the spin off details. This was not created as a series finale and acted like more of a season finale.
As a season finale it was okay...as a series finale it fell flat in every way it could except for the acting by Christian Serratos and Dan Fogler.
deaf people can perceive vibrations you know
Daryl and Carol’s “I love you” scene really got me. I’ve always loved their relationship and how it worked.
You’re my favorite walking dead analysis-er always keepin it real. The RJ jokes are too funny
Even though I had a feeling they where gonna kill off Rosita I didn’t expect it to be in that way those scenes where actually sad as she’s always been a likeable character even if she’s never the main focus
like you said at the end, i think you spending the entire episode awaiting rick's return definitely affected your viewing experience. the episodes become one of my favorites of the entire show, if not in the history of television and i didn't expect rick to show up at all so i was just all in at every minute. also, from what i saw it feels like you were watching the episode on AMC+, which i think kind of changes the feeling of finality in the episode. without ad breaks, you don't really get the same sense of excitement or tension.
however i do agree with you about rosita's death. i liked her a lot from seasons 4-7 but she never really became a favorite so her death wasn't that impactful and felt a little bit drawn out. but i just feel like it shouldn't have been the single MAJOR death, killing off gabriel, aaron or even just jerry would have definitely made this feel more like a finale.
Hell nah Jerry dying would be sad but not as sad as the death of mother who would do anything for her baby
My theory is that after all the spin off shows the group will finally reunite with Rick, and we will get a true final season 12 and series finale of the walking dead where they take on whoever has been keeping Rick hostage this whole time.
That’s a pipedream sadly
I just started watching the show this year and you were right, it was very daunting and this wasn’t as satisfying as I had hoped for
Hey TTT! Great vids man, as usual. Love em all especially ur breakdown of old episodes. Hope u do each episode from start to finish. Anyways, I was so surprised at Luke's death. Not because he died but because the other actors acting felt real and made me actually care and feel bad. I was like 90% Luke was gone and didn't give af but they put on a good ass performance and made me care. Was a little bummed we didn't see Mercers reaction to rosita death but pretty dope "finale" only REAL like WTF? Complaint I had was the makeup. I may be speaking outta school here but pretty sure they've won awards for makeup n practical effects yet... ahhh ok so that black eye on Darrel shouldn't be that prevalent or dark. He got knocked out and woke up same day. Aint no way it'd be that black. I been hit in the face plenty and it swells n turns red/purple first but makeup said fuck all that make that shit black as night. Small nitpick. Man I love this show. I love ur channel and can't wait for the spinoffs. But 6 episode rick n michonne spinoff don't seem like enough to tell the story amd do it justice. What are the chances they doin these 3 spinoffs to build hype and interest and roll the story into a real movie theater movie for the absolute finale? I know gimple n em still want them movies. They been saying forever that they want a walking dead universe akin to the MCU so I'm sure that's their endgoal. Idk just spitballin I suppose. Thanks again T³ can't wait for more from u.🖤🖤🖤
Fun fact. The song they used in the explosion scene was "cult of personality" by living color. The song's about tyrannical leaders and corrupt politicians leading governments with references to stalin, Mussolini, and the book 1984. I think it was a really good choice for the scene.
I think one of the reasons that Rosita's death impacts some people is that for anyone who has a baby, toddler, or any age child I guess, it just makes you think about your kid and want to grab them and hug them. They really milked her death and I was freaking out when she fell back with the baby on her into that walker crowd. So I think that's really just playing into all parent's fears.
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Literally just finished this episode and I got to say I really enjoyed it. It’s one of my favorite episodes in the series. I love how everyone said we are the ones who live. It was such a cool moment to see how far they have come.
I liked almost all of "Magna's Group" except for Magna herself. But you're right, she really did almost nothing in the show... Except start shit with Michonne.
But, they didn't give Magna her Quasi-Leader, that she had in the Comics, when Rick was at The Commonwealth. Js
Personally the finale was better than I anticipated, im not one to tear up for shows but twd hits different
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Agreed! Thank you for talking it about magnas group. Connie’s chemistry with Daryl was awesome. The rest of them blew and took the places of characters we’d been with for seasons. What a. Waste.
Rosita was amazing! Wdym just a side character??? I see where you are coming from and this episode doesn’t feel like the end, I am heartbroken that they would end it like this
it almost makes me think that once the spin offs end they might do a 12th season a few years from now
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I didn't realize the Gabe thing and that's why I love this channel! We met him after he left his congregation outside to die by the dead and it ended with him opening the doors to let them in before the dead could get them.
I actually thought it did feel like a finally. It tied up most loose ends, shows that Maggie has plans for expansion, Daryl and michone are looking foe rick will find him and rick is trying to find his way home and eventually will. It doesn't give you direct answers to how these things will happen but we know it will happen. Also the music in those final couple minutes are just so good
Daryl didn't go "looking" for Rick. He just said if he happens to find them he'll bring them home. I think he's on a mission to see what's out there in the world. It's probably part of Maggie's plan when she talks about the future.
@@xsizzlexster6495 You think? The much heavier implication is that he went to find Rick and Michonne. It's also most people's take on it. What Maggie said felt like HER plans, thus setting up her spinoff.
But none of it was answered directly, people will just form their own ideas based on their perceptions. Therefore, you can't say "Daryl didn't go looking for Rick."
@@kimberlywilmoth9184 Daryl tells Judith:
"While I'm out there if I hear anything or see anything, I'll find them both and bring them home alright?"
Does that sound like he went looking for them? It's like me telling someone, "If I'm at the store and I see your favorite candy, I'll get it for you." That doesn't mean I went to buy their candy.
i mean, rosita is an amazing character if you like, pay attention to her scenes. they are very impactful and shes an extremely important and loved member of the group. she hasnt just "been there for a long time"
the music playing while daryl is riding off into the sunset is amazing
Connie could feel the vibration of the music through the speaker
Loved this show and love this little community here ! We made it to the end guys . Anyone know how many hours it was in total???
6:05 Rick essentially says they aren't the walking dead at the end of 'all out war' after sparing Negan.
“We are life. That’s death.”
I actually don't quite agree with your analysis of Rosita's death. It was the appropriate amount of time and actually had a bittersweet meaning to it. She is a great B character, though under-utilized at times(though they all are at times due to the bloated cast). She's on par with Eugene, Aaron, and Gabriel.
Her death was bittersweet because she actually was the only death I can recall where she went relatively peacefully. Comfortable in a bed, her daughter safe, saying goodbye to everyone she loves, and hopeful that things will be safe from then on. I think it was very relavent that the last death we see was not gruesome or terribly painful but peaceful. It had importance and that was chosen purposefully.
With that said, I was totally devastated (I really just did not want to see another child be orphaned). I think a more fitting death that would have held importance would have been Eugene. His whole character arc was about cowardice vs bravery. Seeing him sacrifice himself and go out a hero would have been more fitting to me out of all the available characters (not that I particularly want to see him die but if it had to be an important character without the ones getting a spinoff).
I think that since Connie is deaf that’s why it seemed like the speakers weren’t working
nah it absolutely felt like a finale to the show
I think Connie’s feeling the vibrations on the speaker. I don’t think that’s making fun of her
The most important thing about this episode is we learned Daryl’s job: he didn’t have one, he just sold blood
She was leaning on it so she could feel the vibrations of the music, deaf people tend to do that lol
This dude really said one or two notable scenes for Rosita when she’s one of the most badass characters in the show. She has tons of good and great scenes.
personally i just dont see it.
Father Gabriel opening the gates and saving all those people really was incredible. That shit gave me chills because I used to absolutely love this show and it feels like it’s coming all round
OMG thank god someone mentioned the arm, I've been told I'm stupid it's a prosthetic . That's one hell of a good prosthetic with its moving fingers.
Why would you think Connie's speaker didn't work and she just stood there? Clearly, her speaker is fine, but she can't hear it, so she leans on it to feel the vibrations.
I 100% agree with everything you've said, Season 11 in general felt very rushed imo.
You could see that there was a lot off issues with Actors either leaving or temporarily leaving between Season 9-11 which definitely effected the story
I don’t think this will be the final, final episode.
I think that we’ll get a couple seasons of these spin offs, including Daryl, Rick & Michonne, Dead City, and who knows what else, before finally coming together for a big end game event for season 12 in a few years.
Rick says “we are the walking dead” and later on “we are NOT the walking dead” in the comics
It felt very much like a finale, great closure for everyone, and the only real spinoff setup is Rick and Michonne's and the fact that we know they both are very much alive and searching for eachother is good enough. It felt like a finale that isn't whole yet until they wrap up Rick's story
But no one you mentioned gets closure til everyone comes back.. -__0
Agreed
@@mcoupe69 look pretty much everybody got a happy ending, Daryl, Rick and Michonnes stories technically arent over so it makes sense to leave those stories open, everyone knows they are all alive and we will most likely get a reunion at the end of the Rick and Michonne spin off
Literally no one got any closure. You ate up the shit sandwich they served you like a sheep
This. With the exception of Daryl, Rick and Michonne, everyone else gets a nice, concise ending.
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I think Daryl puts the stuff in front of Judith’s door to relate to Shane blocking ricks door in season one
It absolutely felt like a finale. And a great one at that. I mean what are we even talking about here? We have to be allowed to imagine that the characters’ lives go on after the credits roll. It’s not that complicated.
They don’t even “set up” spin-offs much at all. We saw glimpses into where these characters are at the end, but the real set up is clearly going to come in the first episode of each respective series. They closed the book on this story beautifully. Come on now, friends. It’s all right there in the episode. Very well done imo.
For sure, definitely my favorite Episode of the whole thing. The acting, emotions, music, action scenes, closure, and seeing Rick & Michonne return in the way they did... Luke's death had me emotional from the jump, Rosita's was even bigger, the variant walkers, Daryl & Judith, all the callbacks and parallels, Walker Hornsby, the EXPLOSION, and the final dinner were just a chef's kiss. Amazing finale! 11x24 - 'Rest in Peace'
Ok
I respectfully have to disagree.
While we have some closure for characters like Ezekiel, Aaron, Lydia, Mercer, Connie, Etc, they are all the minor characters in the show.
The main ones (Daryl, Maggie, Carol, Negan, of course Rick and Michonne) aren’t given even an ounce of closure. It doesn’t feel like a series finale because these characters have unfinished arcs and so many different questions that were set up even in just the past few episodes weren’t answered.
As a season finale, I think this is a good episode. As a series finale, it doesn’t provide enough closure for the main characters, and that’s great because we’re getting more!
But overall, nothing would’ve made this feel like a series finale to me unless Rick and Michonne were reunited with everyone, primarily their children.
@@thethriftytypewriter I don't think because they're leaving / going to the spinoffs means they didn't get closure, that final dialogue between Maggie & Negan where she tells him "I can't forgive you" is closure for those two. Daryl's final moment with Carol before riding off into the distance was closure for him. And the final "We're the ones who live" compilation with Rick & Michonne (which was way more than I ever expected us to get in this episode btw) was closure on where they've been, their fates, and yes, it does setup for their spin-offs, but I don't see that as lacking closure, their story isn't done yet, but in terms of the main show, it is.
We'll see what else gets explored in their spin-offs, but they did an amazing job at wrapping the show's final arc with the Commonwealth and a glimpse into what's to come.
Getting the CRM back for the finale was huge too, and the amount of new footage we got there went above and beyond my expectations, I was genuinely expecting a couple second end-credit scene with little-to-no dialogue that just showed Rick.
The whole reunion between Rick & Judith (RJ too, who he's never met yet) is gonna be a huge moment, but I never expected that to happen in this episode, we still didn't even know what happened to him after the bridge, so getting that reunion this early would kind of kill-off the hype surrounding us watching their show, cause we'd be like "oh, welp, they reunited, that's it for me". - this moment will come, I just didn't see a place for it in the main show, especially right after the Commonwealth arc.
@@CorsonDrax Your poor brain
I agree, i'm really surprised and wonder why Rosita lasted so long on the show but not a more important character like Carl that we would have needed after Rick's departure.
You got me dead at “dog the spin-off”😂
Honestly, I'd watch it lmao
months ago it was stated that the finale was never supposed to be a finale, it was just going to be an ending to the commonwealth arc itself
Actually the scene with Connie was sweet it was about her feeling the vibration of the music through the speaker. 🤟
I'm pretty sure B-17 was just the command to round up the herd around the commonwealth so that Pamela could initiate a lockdown. Also, that scene of Connie wasn't making a joke of her. I believe she was feeling the vibrations of the speaker to know that it was working. Overall I think this was a solid final episode. And I think Rosita was a crushing death, in my opinion anyway. She's been there since season 4 and she's had way more great moments than you say she did, imo. I just wish there were more deaths, and that more characters got a nice wrapped up ending. Gabriel, Negan, Mercer, and Rosita and Eugene are the only characters I can think of that had solid endings. Most other characters seemed to not have much to do, which isn't surprising considering so many of them were completely underutilized for most of their time on the show, like Magna and Luke.
Yup. B16 from a couple episodes earlier provided the same result
When Mercer said that Pamela left thousands of people to die, he was referring to the majority of the Commonwealth she abandoned by calling all the soldiers to protect only the Estates where she was. Not just the people immediately outside that gate.
My dad cried during this, one it was ending and me and him have watched it since the start, and second the song when they were all eating was the song that they played at his dogs funeral.
I'm sorry, you content is usually really good but a lot of the issues you bring up for this episode are very pedantic and some criticisms are simply wrong. Sorry for the long post, but I feel your criticisms were a bit harsh. If you get to the end, thanks for reading lol
For instance, it is easily inferred from the conversations in the episode that Mercer could get them inside the estates due to the loyalty he has with Commonwealth soldiers. You also criticise Daryl for 'leaving' after he said he wouldn't, when in actuality, at the end of the episode he is doing what Daryl has always done (which is scouting). I just assume he was saying bye to everyone because he goes away for longer than he used to when scouting. Again subtleties with the dialogue give this away, such as him telling Carol they'll see each other again, Connie asking him how the frontier is, Daryl saying that if he sees anything he'll bring Rick or Michonne home (not that he is leaving to bring them home). While we (as viewers) know this isn't the case and that Daryl is leaving, from a narrative standpoint the characters don't. Ever since the prison, Daryl has always left/been the one to leave to look for supplies (or people, later in Seasons 6-7).
I can understand your gripe with Connie's group, particularly Magna and Luke. However, Lydia was not upset about Luke and Jules, she was upset of the thought of what happened to them happening to her boyfriend. Again, this is easily inferred by the dialogue.
For the whole 'we ain't the walking dead' bit, Rick said 'we are' in reference to doing what they need to in order to survive until they don't need to just survive anymore, hence the switch in the saying. But, from that scene in Season 5, Daryl has always held that viewpoint of opposition - it's just that it fits better here. I've heard people complaining about how it changed from the source material from 'we aren't' to 'we ain't' but, let's be real, they can't change the way a character talks/their mannerisms just for one bit of dialogue - it would have come out even more clunky.
The criticisms about Connie and the speaker, i'm not sure where that is coming from? I watched it an assumed she was setting up the main speaker due to being deaf - as others would be pained/uncomfortable with the level of noise? What makes you think it isn't working?
Obviously, after the time skip it's the Commonwealth... And if you took the time to open your eyes, you'd see Lydia has a fake arm when hugging Judith.
My only other criticism is that your reaction to Rick/Michonne returning makes it quite obvious that you've gone into this finale with clear expectations that weren't met and a bias that it was going to be objectively bad if your expectations weren't met. Your 'bad ending' due to 'bad writing' is a bad ending for you as it didn't give you everything you expected. Not that it was due to objectively bad writing. The writing was a lot better this episode (and season), and this was a fairly good ending for the show considering the objectively bad writing earlier in the show (and other circumstances such as Andrew Lincoln wanting written out for a few years for personal reasons). Angela Kang had her work cut out for her to make this a success and I think she's done a fantastic job in redeeming this show with what she had to work with. Sure there have been questionable decisions under her leadership but, I mean, it could have been an ending akin to that of GOT.
I respect some of your opinions, but some of the things you claim as bad writing aren't really bad writing - they're just bad in your subjective opinion. My point being, it wasn't objectively bad.
All pretty fair points. And you are absolutely correct I went in with astronomical expectations because at the end of the day, I want to be as excited and delighted by this as every other fan, but my expectations weren’t met.
That being said, I don’t think this is a bad finale, I just don’t think that this wrapped up our characters or story in a manner that I expected it to. I’m very glad to see that lots of people did enjoy the finale and got their closure from it, but personally I didn’t, and given that the “universe is expanding” this episode was never going to give absolute complete closure to anyone.
I respect your comment and willingness to point out your facts in a fair manner, and perhaps I went a bit over the top in some examples, but my opinions are my opinions, and they don’t have to be shared by everyone. Opinions on this topic are all very clearly varied, and all come from the same place: our love for The Walking Dead.
What happened to Oceanside?
What about the walker that picked up the knife?
@@thethriftytypewriter Having read it back my comment sounded a lot more aggressive at points that I meant lol - and yeah for sure, like I said, i respect your opinions that are subjectively based rather than objectively based. Sorry you didn't seem to enjoy it as much as others, but I guess when writing a show this big you can't please absolutely everyone. Especially for a show that's been going on around 12 years now.
A lot of the subjective opinions you shared were very valid. I think more closure could have been achieved if, for example, Rick's body was never found and we never saw the Jadis scene (leaving Rick's fate a complete mystery). Or if Michonne left after finding Rick's stuff (again leaving her fate a complete mystery, known only to Judith). All of that, with a reveal of what was going on with Rick and Michonne in the finale, while keeping it a mystery, could have worked better from a closure standpoint (and maybe, not telling us about the spin offs till 2023).
Characters leave the show/we never find out their fate (for absolute certain) all the time. Think of Dawn's group, or the Vatos (minus the deleted scene). While it would have been a much bigger deal to leave Rick and Michonne's fate a mystery - I think it may have sealed the deal a little bit more for people?
After all is said and done, it could have been better but also could have been A LOT worse.
@@iM_not_E Well, when Eugene and Rosita were talking, he mentioned 'swimming at oceanside' which would imply they'd be fine after Lance and Pamela's reign of terror. After all, they were taken over like Alexandria, but most likely liberated after the fall of Pamela's rule. Eugene's off hand mention implies this, otherwise, why would Rosita take her child to somewhere that 1) no longer exists or 2) isn't safe.
I think the walker thing was to imply that the horde had variants, and set up them climbing the wall later on. Either that, or the knife walker was responsible for the first Commonwealth jeep that was taken out (just before Mercer's arrest). We did see walkers wielding rocks, which would have been low-key out of place without the knife walker to demonstrate there's more than one variant. Up until the knife walker, there was no sure way to know if the first variant walker we saw in S11 was an outlier or not. Would have been nice to see it again but, subjectively from my own opinion, it doesn't matter as much as some of the other points brought up in the video (and the comments after the fact).
@@StewartStorrarI think that this episode sucked as the final episode of TWD
I actually missed the line where Judith tells Daryl Rick is alive and I don't think she actually says those words but that Michonne left to find him and she didn't tell him because she thought he would leave too, which is basically what she said all the way back in 10x15, so yeah this was a pretty underwhelming moment, it was the BIG REVEAL we've all been waiting for, how the characters and most importantly Daryl will find out Rick is alive, and it turns out to just be Judith who's been holding onto that secret all this time since Michonne left (which no one talked about until 11x23), and then he just leaves a year later with no leads. It's really poorly done tbh and that being the most important thing alongside who lives and dies and how the characters arcs are ended, it couldve been done SO much better. And we know Daryl ends up in Paris, and in interviews we've learned that Daryl doesn't even know how he ended up there, so is this literally the last time we see him until he magically wakes up in France???? If so this is underwhelming as fuck
Love when Daryl says "we ain't the walking living" and crawls on the floor
12:38 YES WE NEED A DOG SPINOFF (if yall don't know Daryl calls his dog "dog")