I personally think that the Governor is the best villain, Negan is a great character dont get me wrong especially if we consider his evolution in the last seasons; but during his villain arc he always gave me the feeling that he was strong just for his army. The Governor instead gave me chills even when he was alone (the whole part where he chases Andrea its so creepy imo).
Where Negan, after being defeated, was given the opportunity to change for the better and did. The Governer, after being defeated, was given the same opportunity and willingly chose not change for the better. Thats what makes him the worst villain, there was never going to be a redemption arc for someone so vile.
@@AGC479 Exactly my thoughts. Early season 4 made us believe for a while that he'd walk away from conflict to discover a safe haven given all the ongoing circumstances, also as a penance for all the wrongdoings he inflicted upon a suffering mankind, just for his megalomania to come back with astronomical proportions (sorry about the writing, English is not my mother tongue)
@@Bilbucheron lol your English is better than a lot of native English speakers. Yea it was almost cathartic to see him go down an almost similar path as Rick after terminus with the beard and tired disregard for danger. Only for his humanity to come back just enough with his relationship with his new surrogate daughter. But I think after he was given the opportunity to lead again he stepped right back into that role and once that animal was off the leash it didn’t hold back.
Yep Daryl, negan and Eugene I also liked Aaron and rosita, Carol was ok but a lil Boring imo, but that episode with Aaron and the priest forced to play Russian roulette was a episode worth watching again 😂
I think the Claimers are super underrated villains. The scariest thing about them is how realistic they are. Those are people you WOULD meet in an apocalypse.
The governor is by far the scariest villian, most of the other villian were molded by the new world (Terminus, Negan, Alpha, Pope.) But the govenor fit right in to the new world with a ruthlessness never before seen in TWD as of then. Makes it so unsettling to see him in Season 3 again, cause his charm and non chalant attitude to his atrocities made him so evil and immoral (and I guess it makes sense to Lance to a sense)
I guess you can say his daughter becoming a walker was a catalyst for him, but I think he would still be this aggressive to keep his living daughter alive as well, and we never hear that he had a huge challenge and struggle (besides eating Ramen in an apartment building with nerd guy ((no offense Milton forgot his name for a second))) so I think my logic still stands for the Govenor being pure evil.
He could have redeemed himself. I think his actions in season 4 is what put him on that pedestal of #1 villain (no redemption arc, all in mentality, you either win all or lose all).
Agree he actually almost killed Rick too like not many villains can get that close and he actually seemed threatening I loved him as an actor and villain.
Governor was alot crazier then most, the only person close probably is that guy from the apartment building with the skulls on his shelves. The one the commonwealth sends that CIA guy and Aaron to "help"
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I used to hate the governer and I was superbly annoyed by his return in season four but now watching it back, he was a perfect villain. He had an excellent backstory, motivations, running things smoothly, and while he didn't have the same menacing dread that the saviors brought in season six finale, his "liar" scene was absolutely brutal and terrifying. Excellent list!!!!
he was a good villain and all but that doesn’t mean he still wasn’t a prick and a creep at times lol some scenes are so painful to get through but that’s the point i guess lol
The Governor is 100% my favorite individual villain. He is so menacing and is played brilliantly by David Morrissy. My favorite villainous group however definitely has to be The Whisperers. Such a unique idea for a group of antagonists in any zombie medium in my opinion.
I’m so glad you added Simon I always thought he was super underrated and incredibly interesting and fun to see having screen time, the actor did amazingly and added tense moments and his role in the story was done well
For me: 1. Governor - duh 2. Shane - Literally one of the best characters in the show, showed what happens if you adapt too quickly and his good vs evil stuff with dale in season 2 was very good too! 3. Negan - I think the savior arc was dragged on too long and that drags him down the list for me
Shane wasn’t a villain because he adapted to quickly. He was a villain because he couldn’t handle normal life, like the girl he liked not being with him so he tried to murder his best friend and SA’d his best friends wife.
@@kylereese5841 didnt mean he was a villain bc he adapted too quickly, meant it in the way that he was seen as an outsider due to him adapting too quickly
@@IIIISai It's not, saying he was a villain cos he adapted quicker is oversimplified and just untrue, even with his more extreme tactics, his relationship to Rick and Lori and not being listened too was made him him antagonistic.
@@kylereese5841 Alright you redeemed yourself with this more informed message, but yes I agree, but it's also the survival, his whole randoll situation, his arguments with hershel about the barn lockers, that's what made him divided from the rest of the group, the lori stuff was the cherry on top, and was more of his downfall on the end, he died because he was so hung up on carl and lori having a strong figure it was him or rick, as for the group they were too soft for him, bet if lori and carl didn't exist, shane would leave the farm Because the group was too soft
I liked Negan the most. The way he psychologically fucked with people to get them to do what he wanted was pretty good. He was also a pretty charismatic character as well. The way he was able to form a big group and have other communities follow suit and provide whatever he needed is pretty impressive. The walking dead definitely went well past it’s expiration date. Pretty much turned into a wash and repeat situation for bad guys. You see how intimidating they can be and then they make similar mistakes and ricks group gets the upper hand and wins. That group of elite trained soldiers all of the sudden turned into regular people and got destroyed.
I love how the top 4 all represent different fears which is why they are so effective, and why the others are less memorable. The whisperers are the manifestation of paranoia, what could be lurking around any corner, hiding waiting to pounce. Shane is the fear of those turning against you. Negan represents the fear of those who enjoy and laugh at their murderous actions, while the Governor is the fear of people going too far. Everyone else feels like a branch of these or just “bad group”. The exception possibly being the commonwealth as that’s the fear of corruption but you could apply that to the Governor too with his lust for power.
I think that Dawn and her officers at Grady Memorial always get overlooked as Villains, for the exact same reasons you said here. But when I watched those episodes and we explored the inner workings of the hospital, Dawn's mental state, the power dynamics and what the other officers were doing to the patients. It's definitely worth noting Dawn let her officers do things to their prisoners that Negan didn't even allow. While maybe not quite as threatening as Negan and his army I think that they had one of the most profound effects on Rick and our group, he even says so to Daryl "I lost something there, I know you did too". While never explicitly stated, Dawn's officers are using the wards as slaves, indentured servants at best and they were so effectively institutionalized not one of them went with Rick when he offered. Rick is a man that put faith in his job, in his uniform and the first group of people he meets still wearing theirs, holding onto that same line of thinking, are a bunch of slavers, rapists and murderers? And with how Rick killed officer Lamson, I always see that as the final nail in the coffin of Rick's old life.
Yea I was going to point it out as well that Dawn and her officers are a direct commentary of the institutionalization of police. A commentary on how they behave and how much of a reflection they are of police in real life, except here being in a post apocalyptic world
You really don't expect a commentary on police so organically written into a zombie apocalypse, like it's a brilliant idea of an arc and a very smart way of making Rick reflect on him being a sheriff once. I think the reason it wasn't received too well is because it very annoyingly hijacked the story, so suddenly putting the characters in a new environment on a new incredibly risky mission after they just had to fight a whole other hostile group, like it was a very obvious filler that took significant time to become interesting on it's own.
@Itch yea I like that it contrasts Rick being a sheriff as well. It analyzes a side of his character that we didn't get before. It does kind feel like filler so you're right about that. I think this would have been more consequential of an arc if Beth didn't die. She grows a lot being with Daryl and she really comes into her own throughout this arc. If she ended up staying with the group and being a solid voice to listen to, it would have made this arc feel a lot less like filler and more like a crucial moment for character growth.
I honestly think the only reason rick didnt brutally kill those hospital cops (with the exception of lamson) was because seeing them in their uniforms reminded him of what his old life was once like before shtf (Shane, him being a cop, etc)
I think it was season 8 or 9 when the group started to have that thinking that what if they are the villain in other's lives. (sorry english is not my first language)
But he's literally morally adjust compared to everone he fought. He already knew what type of people the savors was before attacking them,governor was obviously bad and even finding out he was a creep to Maggie was enough to attack.
personally I thought negan was the best villain of the show. His introduction was menacing and suspenseful. He was manipulative. And a really funny villain where it’s like you like him but you hate him at the same time. He’s number one on my list. However my dad found the whisperers and alpha scary. Funny story when they were first introduced when they took their mask off. My dad just called them “the fakes” as in fake zombies 😂. Every time a walkers pops up and he’s like “OH, THATS A FAKE!! wait never mind it’s real” 😂
I thought Lance was a compelling villain (although certainly not #1). But after they built him up for awhile, they killed him off rather abruptly. The payoff just wasn't there and it felt like they could've done more with his character. Although the whole Commonwealth story seemed rushed to me anyway as they needed to wrap it up for Season 11.
I would have loved it if he was connected with the CRM or the French and be connected with the spin-offs, who knows maybe he is still connected in some capacity,
@@maskedninja6883 It felt like they were hinting at a possible connection with CRM. Even if not the CRM though, it would've been nice to see what his connections were. Especially with the whole railroad thing, it seemed as though our characters' "world was about to get a whole lot bigger" only for us to not see a single community that the railroad connected with. And then none of it was ever brought up again.
When season 11 was airing and they killed Lance in such a disappointing way, I was sure that there would be some actual pay off (especially considering the whole "let him turn" thing that neither Daryl nor Carol would ever have gone along with by that point in the story in my opinion). I was originally assuming Lance would usurp Pamela before the end since he was the more interesting villain anyway, but after he was killed I started thinking, and hoping, that Walker Lance would be the one to actually kill Pamela (and not as some kind of stupid suicide attempt), and that he might have come back as one of those special walkers to make getting rid of her surprising or important in some way. It would have been a great opportunity for them to do something, ANYTHING, with that concept. It was such a shame they did absolutely nothing with not only Lance, but the special walker reveal as well, and just having Pamela see him and just feel....bad about it I guess? didn't cut it.
For me, Philip ( The Governor) it is not only the best villain but also the best character in the entire TWD series. His psichological and mental downfall is so well written and captures so well what was going through his mind on every event that turned him. After everything in the end before he kills Herschell he wanted to believe Rick, he wanted to believe that the world could be better and people could be saved, but he went through so much pain, violence, horror and loss that his pessimistic side couldn't accept anything good anymore, and then he punishes the biggest simbol of hope and peace, which was Herschell himself. That's a true well written villain. It explains why and how he got there cause you don't born as the villain, you become one, there's depth and character development. Philip Blake is the best. PS: the scene that he burns Woodbury is pure art
The Governor is a bad guy trying to be good Negan is a good guy trying to be bad Best villains ever. The Governor is just memorable because he's the first one to threaten Rick's group. Truly made his impact, alongside with the other things happening in the prison. When I rewatch TWD, the prison arc is always top tier. He killed Hershel too, like, I hate him but he's really good.
If the governor never ran into Rick he’d have a considerably large group behind him, at least Alexandria size after some more dictator years. Lots of evil leader potential. You only saw the beginning and a peak of the middle of his reign, super scary potential. Man had a tank!!!
Absolutely agree that the Governor has the best theme in the show. Any time he would come on screen my husband and I would be like “wub wub wub” 😂 He’s such a great, menacing character played brilliantly by David Morrissey!
I think if you're going to include Shane, you have to include Merle as well. You could lump him in with the Governor, but he really is his own character with his own story.
But Shane’s death was one of a few deaths that shaped him into the man he became, mentally affecting him first before the death of Glenn, Lori, Hershel, or Carl.
yess i've always said the governor was the best villain of the show, the only character you dread to see on screen because you know what he's capable of.
Number 1 has gotta be Ed! The way he dominated the group and spread fear amongst their ranks. How he treated Carol and Sophia, the way it took everything in Shane’s power to overthrow Ed’s tyrannical regime. Ed was weakened by Shane and that’s the only reason why the Walkers got the jump on him.
The Governor will always be the creepiest villain hands down. The way he murdered his own people and his extreme desire to torture Michonne, Andrea, Milton and wants to wipe out the entire prison including Carl and Judith is just insane. He’s a scary man
The Governor was just ENTIRELY different. This man was what, not even a year into the apocalypse and already menacing everyone within 100 miles of his operation? Dude was off a perc. I pale to wonder what he was like before the end of the world even, because it took him a concerningly little amount of time to go full Darth Sidious. He needed to be eliminated 😭
I genuinely can't find fault here, I found myself agreeing or coming to agree when you went into your reasons as a lot of this is nail on the head, I had a lapse when Negan was silver but my memory jumped straight at the governer who I agree was the best villain
I agree on the Pamela Milton/ Lance Hornsby thing, I think they should have had Lance kill Pamela and seize control. He was the superior villain of the two.
@@Chadius_Thundercock agreed, neither one was anything special, but Pamela was especially pathetic. And yeah lmao she kinda was like a Zombie Apocalypse Hillary.
One of the really scary things about the governor is that he believed there were traces of humanity in the walkers yet did unbelievably ruthless things to them. Indicating that if he could put actual living human heads in fish tanks, he would. Dude was probably the most evil character the show ever sees.
In my opinion, the Reapers could've been the ultimate danger to the group's survival. They had so much potential, but dang, what a waste of characters!
The Governor is 100% the best villain but my favourite will always be Shane due to Jon Bernthal Absolutely bossing it, he owned so many scenes in Season 2 and really carried it along
@@Spooky_515 such a insane actor, every scene with him was captivating. You felt like you are right next to him. He is the only reason Season 2 is worth watching
@@Spooky_515 no it wasn’t. Shane was what pushed Rick to finally accept the world he’s in, to push Rick to doing what’s necessary to survive. Letmetellyousomething, you think it would’ve been possible for Rick and Shane to coexist after season 2? It was doomed to fail, and his death is what turned Rick into a beast
I always wonder what would’ve happened if the Governor and Negan had met and how they would’ve dealt with each other since they were both so ruthless and charismatic as villains.
The governor cant handle threats and stress as good. He was hiding in his room while his city was rebelling and he killed all his soldiers. Woodbury's biggest issue was that they desperately tried to create a illusion of normality. They forgot the apocalypse and thus their skills and knowledge about survival. Negans people are hard trained, nothing scares them and their loyality is unmatched.
My favorite unintentionally funny Governor moment is when just after he loses eye, he attacks the prison and fires on them from the treeline where he aims with his eyepatch instead of his working eye.
The governor was and will always be the peak of twd. He was a true villain/sociopath. The actor completely sold the role as well. much better than the comic book variation.
Shane: Lust ( His Lust for Lori) Governor: Greed ( He took other communities stuff and fought for control) Negan: Pride ( Never was willing to accept defeat and always believed in his policies) Simon: Envy ( Wanted to be the leader of the saviours and take Negans role) Alpha: Sloth ( Didn't do anything about the other communities or them having her daughter for a while) Beta: Wrath ( Looked for every chance to attack the communities and get revenge for alpha) Terminus: Gluttony ( They ate people to survive)
My opinion, governor is the best twd villain. His backstory is great, and his buildup in his character was just perfect, wasn't rushed or anything. And tbh, he was Rick and the groups first big threat in the apocalypse and no other group had as much of an impact as the governor
The governor has to be number one for sure… the only thing I didn’t like is he got off way too easy and died too quick… he could’ve got stabbed and then Michonne could’ve walked away and let the walkers do the rest.
i love how you themed the background music to the music that played in TWD around each of those villain arc times. Really nice touch of detail man big ups
The Governor was great but I did like the idea that after the resource heavy battle with the Saviours the next threat was low tech and messed-up because the resources are used up. You are going to have one or two psychologically messed up people in that existence after a time and you got Alpha and Beta. They were like the price to be paid for what it took to defeat Negan.
I just finished Season 3 yesterday for the umpteenth time. The government for sure #1. Some characters you mentioned I never thought as evil villains. There were a lot of creepy ppl is how I'd categorize them.
I agree pretty well with this list. But the Whisperers are my favorite. The idea is so cool and clever. I feel like more could have been done with them, although that just might make them feel dragged out. But the way the inflict psychological terror on the Survivors is so intriguing
I always felt like Terminus had the best characters that never got explored. Gareth seemed to steal the scene every time he was on. I always think they wasted so much potential with how fast the storyline went. They should have developed the group more, especially Gareth and Martin.
I absolutely agree with The Governor at the 1th place! I loved him and I would be grateful if he didnt die. Negan, Shane, Alpha are great too, but the governor was at the end pure evil with no emotions and when I was a kid I was so afraid of him. One of the best villains in any Show or Movie in my opinion. Mine is: 1) The Governor 2) Shane (In my opinion he wasn't a pure villain, he was just too smart for his group :D) 3) Negan 4) Alpha 5) Simon
Joe is probably one of the most underrated characters in the whole show. Him and The Claimers felt like what would be real if awful people joined together in the apocalypse which would absolutely happen. Him and Shane were probably the most realistic villains in the entire show. I mean, the Governor and Negan are just a blast to watch and definitely my favorites but Joe had that sense of realism, same with Shane who in my opinion, is tied with the Governor as best twd villain.
With all the side bad guys the show offers, I always truly see the show as having the big three bads. The governor, negan, and the whisperers. They brought the most to the show, they affected the group the most, and they all brought amazing and interesting arcs to the show. -Governer brought probably one of the most important arcs to the show. The first real big bad the group had to face. While negan was dangerous, he was predictable. He had rules, decency’s. Governer had no control, wore a smile well to get what he wanted. -Negan with the most emotional arc, losing such important characters and the first time the group felt powerless. Even though he definitely overstated his welcome just a tad, he was one of my favorite arcs in the show. -And whisperers “ my fav antagonist”brought the most interesting arc IMO. Easily the most dangerous threat the group had to face, being able to control hordes at a time and use that as a weapon. While most have to worry with 2 enemies, humans and zombies, whisperers had tunnel vision on humans to get what they want. Easily the most badass antagonists.
Overall I’d give it Negan, as he’s also one of my top 3 favorite characters. He knew how to instill fear into people while also being funny. But if it would be based individually, I’d say the Governor. He was scarier on his own and I’d even say Negan had more of a moral compass than him.
fair statement army wise negan is number one but as a single one person the governor is the best villain you could also say beta as well but most of the time beta had people and or zombie hordes so i just simply dont see him as a threat solo wise so imma say the gov being the best solo wise
The has one of the most realistic villains in a series or movie I seen cause if you take away the apocalypses aesthetic in this universe, you still get what some of these people motive, hatred, ideals, and had all one thing in common, survive and to prove their ways of surviving is right until they come across ricks group and we all know what they been through over the years in this apocalypse.
In fact, there wasn't a single character on the show that had more potential than Lance. He couldn't be killed. He could be a cunning manipulator, weaving various intrigues and the most cunning character in the show. It could also be used in spin-offs when the writers show us CRM. Imagine, different representatives of the authorities weave intrigues against each other, trying to lower each other in the eyes of Pamela. These authorities take our heroes as assistants. There is a struggle for power, in which Lance wins. Later, Pamela dies and Lance becomes the leader, a new threat appears - CRM. Later, Rick shows up. Lance, knowing that CRM is stronger, tries to suck up to them. Rick, seeing this, overthrows Lance and starts a war. Lance goes over to Beall's side. There is a brutal war in which many die. At this time, Rick again becomes dangerous, as he was in season 5. A bearded Rick with a murder jacket and a red machete. And most importantly, Rick has become a cool strategist, thinking through cunning plans. After six months of a war in which the Commonwealth was losing for the most part, riots suddenly broke out in CRM, citizens and soldiers turned against the authorities. LANCE. While in CRM, he, along with his spies, accumulated information against CRM, turned the military against each other, revealed the secret of the death of an entire community from TWD: WB. The Commonwealth learned of Lance's exploit. Rick defeated CRM by sacrificing his life and killing Beall. CRM and the Commonwealth have become allies. Daryl became head of the Commonwealth. Having grown old, he gave the reins of government to Carl. End. Lance died a natural death.
Shane was definitely a villain, but only because of perspective. He was a reflection of who Rick was going to become, but nobody could have known what was ahead. I'm sure he amd Rick would have been best friends to the end if it wasn't because of the Lori affair
Rick wouldn't shoot an innocent person in the foot just to escape the walkers. Rick did go darker and stop being ho0eful, saving everyone, however he wasn't quite shane
Shane was only a villain through ricks eyes. He left Rick at the hospital in a situation he couldn’t control and believed there was no way Rick could survive being he was in a coma and the military were killing everyone. He got Lorre and Carl to safety with best intentions, not to turn it into what it became.
I agree with the Governor being top on this list. He was just plain evil. BUT the most terrifying that i've seen in the show was the introduction of Negan. When he came down from the van and appear right in front of the group with the baseball bat.. istg that scene traumatize me.
Shane was a great antagonist because he was more of a red herring than a true bad guy. There where things he did in the name of survival and protection of the group that made him seem unhinged at the time but by the time the next season rolled around most of group had made more steps to becoming like him than they would be willing to admit
Negan, the governor and the whisperers interchangeable for me depending on my mood. I personally think Pamela was a pretty good villain and agree she needed more time, but I loved her in the first episodes of the final part where she out of left field took the main villain spot. Lance definitely should have been the main villain throughout the final season though. I think the scavengers being the worst villains is pretty much unanimous. Love your videos btw! Keep up the good work!
100% agree with Lance. It felt like they introduced some of the Commonwealth characters for the soul purpose of being killed... That's my only complaint about season 11. I think it definitely impacted the length of some of the stories being either too long or too short.
Negan to me is by far the best character on this list, his presence is just something else. And the fact he has a redemption arc after is just the cherry on top
Governor was much better actually. He had a better theme and survived on his own. You see Negan needed his group to survive and he dominant. But the governors group needed HIM. Governor had way more military skills and his character arc formed instead of being Mr nice guy at the end. Negan also was a mid actor who mostly was based off funny scenes instead of actual writing. So nah. Governor is best Villian
@@ynwgoob6467 Negan was much scarier to deal with as he was very unpredictable. He also got his redemption arc. Much better and fleshed out character/vilain
Negan is the best villain in twd history. Governor was a good model for what would come. The claimers,Terminus and the wolves are good stand ins for the marauders, the hunters and scavengers. The reapers are probably the best tv exclusive villains for twd.
My personal favorite villain was Shane. He encompassed the early seasons mentality. We were new to the walking dead and so was the viewers so we saw him as a villain, but looking back we see him as a warning sign of what’s to come. He fit his role perfectly and I love Jon bernthals portrayal. The governor fit amazing as well but his death never sat right with me. Just the minor fist fight then stabbed by michone, to then be shot. It was kinda a mess and didn’t seem like a good send off compared to Shane’s send off where it was brothers against each other along with us learning all people are infected.
Am I the only one that thinks Shane and Simon are very alike in how they were getting impatient with their groups leader and tried to overthrow them in the same type of way but for a different reason
Honestly, I hope Dawn or the Wolves are dead last, besides dawn killing Beth, she had basically no impact on our characters whatsoever, no change in thought process or anything, same with the wolves. The only argument against the wolves being dead last is they caused Alexandria to be overrun and indirectly caused Carl to lose his eye, but they had not direct impact on the groups process
Rick is not villainous at all, some people say that he is because of what he did to the saviors, but he did that because the saviors were already enslaving people , beating peoples heads in and coercing women into sex, which he learned from hilltop, nothing he did to them, makes him a villain.
the governor was the best because he’s the only one that in my opinion was completely unhinged and had the least amount of reason to attack ricks group
Negan is a better character but the governor is the best villain he was crazy but also pretty smart and knew how to manipulate people and hide who he truly was he had lost everything and he took his anger out on the world
The way they handled Hornsby was so disappointing. He was the Highlight of Season 11 outside of Negan and Maggie All that buildup for him to be nothing in the end. Lance should have been the Final villain of the show. Not Pamela....what were they thinking....
Governor definitely does NOT have the best villain theme song. Not even top 2! Those belong to Lance Hornsby (Heads or Tails is a goosebumps-inducing crescendo) and Easy Street for Negan!
The only thing interesting about the Grady Cops is that they used some of the plot elements of the Woodbury arc from the comics that weren't used in Seasons 3 or 4, such as Rick crippling one of them with a car, a character losing an arm, etc.
The whisperer topped it when they beheaded some of our group and put their head on a stake, so we can see them. Most emotional scene for me. I think why most of you are rating the governor as no 1 is because he is the first villain that really threaten our group.
True if I see someone like beta I would run miles for safety but the governor he’s a charming narcissist that you won’t see coming and you remember the walker heads in the tanks he would stare at and having a zombie daughter he obsessed over and what he had planned for michonee was way over the top brutality craziness
Everything inbetween when Rick and the group arrived at the prison to when they arrived at Alexandria was my favorite part about this whole show. I'm probably alone in thinking that the show was at it's best with the orignal small group, as compared to how big the group became after they arrived at Alexandria
15. Reapers: Useless and EXTREME wasted pote tial. They were cool, tho ig. 14. Dawn & gang: Just, very mediocre. 13. Joe & gang: Weren't great, but they served in Ricks most crucial moment in the show. 12. Jadis & trash monkeys: Not good, but not the worst. 11. Gregory: Annoying prick, but he had some good dynamics. 10. Pamila 9. Wolves 8. Lance 7. Gareth These four just had interesting scenes and mindsets toward the apocalypse and probably change with a rewatch. Other side Saviors like Regina, Arat, etc. 6. Beta: Same as Alpha, just not as fleshed. 5. Simon: Was acted and played really well, and I just love his psychoticness. 4. Alpha: Very interesting group and villain to introduce after Ricks leave. 3. Shane: First true villian, and tho I don't believe he was ahead of the curve(I actually believe he was a coward), he did play a big role in Ricks character. 2. Negan: He is 100% a better character than Gov, but as a villain, Phillip tops him. 1. Phillip: What you said straight up menace, badass, bomb ass theme, etc.
I personally think that the Governor is the best villain, Negan is a great character dont get me wrong especially if we consider his evolution in the last seasons; but during his villain arc he always gave me the feeling that he was strong just for his army. The Governor instead gave me chills even when he was alone (the whole part where he chases Andrea its so creepy imo).
He had all the trappings of a classic villain profile... painful past, redemption arc that got knocked off course and then.... utter psychosis...
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Where Negan, after being defeated, was given the opportunity to change for the better and did. The Governer, after being defeated, was given the same opportunity and willingly chose not change for the better. Thats what makes him the worst villain, there was never going to be a redemption arc for someone so vile.
@@AGC479 Exactly my thoughts. Early season 4 made us believe for a while that he'd walk away from conflict to discover a safe haven given all the ongoing circumstances, also as a penance for all the wrongdoings he inflicted upon a suffering mankind, just for his megalomania to come back with astronomical proportions (sorry about the writing, English is not my mother tongue)
@@Bilbucheron lol your English is better than a lot of native English speakers. Yea it was almost cathartic to see him go down an almost similar path as Rick after terminus with the beard and tired disregard for danger. Only for his humanity to come back just enough with his relationship with his new surrogate daughter. But I think after he was given the opportunity to lead again he stepped right back into that role and once that animal was off the leash it didn’t hold back.
Negan went from being the reason many people stopped watching the show to the only reason people kept watching the show 🤣
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Yep Daryl, negan and Eugene I also liked Aaron and rosita, Carol was ok but a lil Boring imo, but that episode with Aaron and the priest forced to play Russian roulette was a episode worth watching again 😂
@@AliTheGreatestChampion and it also had the actor that was on Terminator 2 going after o’Connor
@@LowTekk tHe aCtOr fRom tErMiNaToR
Thats Robert Patrick ffs
@@ahabduennschitz7670 who asked you?
I think the Claimers are super underrated villains. The scariest thing about them is how realistic they are. Those are people you WOULD meet in an apocalypse.
The claimers are not a big threat, they are just Organized scavengers
@@HELLFIRE0239who try to grape boys
100%
@@Jack-cr6iw more pedos in the world than you think
They're like Trump supporters
The governor is by far the scariest villian, most of the other villian were molded by the new world (Terminus, Negan, Alpha, Pope.) But the govenor fit right in to the new world with a ruthlessness never before seen in TWD as of then. Makes it so unsettling to see him in Season 3 again, cause his charm and non chalant attitude to his atrocities made him so evil and immoral (and I guess it makes sense to Lance to a sense)
I guess you can say his daughter becoming a walker was a catalyst for him, but I think he would still be this aggressive to keep his living daughter alive as well, and we never hear that he had a huge challenge and struggle (besides eating Ramen in an apartment building with nerd guy ((no offense Milton forgot his name for a second))) so I think my logic still stands for the Govenor being pure evil.
I think you could put Alpha in conversation with Gov for the simple fact that both are literal sociopaths. Straight up evil.
Agreed
He could have redeemed himself. I think his actions in season 4 is what put him on that pedestal of #1 villain (no redemption arc, all in mentality, you either win all or lose all).
Fax especially since almost evrybody thought he was having a redemption arc
In my opinion, the Governor is the best twd villain. He is just built different.
Idk why read built diffrent in that egg meme girl.
I'm built diffrent
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Agree he actually almost killed Rick too like not many villains can get that close and he actually seemed threatening I loved him as an actor and villain.
Governor was alot crazier then most, the only person close probably is that guy from the apartment building with the skulls on his shelves. The one the commonwealth sends that CIA guy and Aaron to "help"
I agree with the villain pick, but as an individual character, Negan is leagues far above him.
/ALL VILLlANS/
0:59 (The Scavengers)🐀🚛🛢
1:34 (The Cops)👮♀️🚔🏥
2:06 (Gregory)🗣👨🦳🛖
2:41 (The Wolves)🐺🪓☠️
3:22 (Pamela Melton)👻🧑🦳🎙
3:52 (The Reaper’s)💀🪚⚠️
4:41 (Lance Hornsby)👔🏫🤡
5:16 (The claimers)👽🧔🏻❌
5:57 (The Termite’s)🍴🏣🪤
7:23 (The Whispers)💪🏻👩🦲🥷
8:10 (Shane Walsh)😤👮🏻♂️🛑
8:48 (The Saviors)🃏🏭😎
9:43 (The governor)👑🦾😈
Thank you
your welcome.
lmao the clown emoji for lance Hornsby💀💀
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*Deep breath*
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Shit list lol
I used to hate the governer and I was superbly annoyed by his return in season four but now watching it back, he was a perfect villain. He had an excellent backstory, motivations, running things smoothly, and while he didn't have the same menacing dread that the saviors brought in season six finale, his "liar" scene was absolutely brutal and terrifying. Excellent list!!!!
no doubt we didnt see how much better
he was a good villain and all but that doesn’t mean he still wasn’t a prick and a creep at times lol some scenes are so painful to get through but that’s the point i guess lol
@@everlastingbloom7057 did I ever say he wasn't a prick or a creep? What's your point?
@@ErinJeanette i was just adding onto your statement about him being a horribly great villian. not arguing your point. lol have a good day.
@@everlastingbloom7057 sorry I was being a crab, you're right though especially what he did to Maggie!!!
The Governor is 100% my favorite individual villain. He is so menacing and is played brilliantly by David Morrissy. My favorite villainous group however definitely has to be The Whisperers. Such a unique idea for a group of antagonists in any zombie medium in my opinion.
Same here
Terminus was pretty brutal, I’d say.
I’m so glad you added Simon I always thought he was super underrated and incredibly interesting and fun to see having screen time, the actor did amazingly and added tense moments and his role in the story was done well
Yes for sure smarter than negan that was too stubborn and egotistica and l that lead to his downfall
For me:
1. Governor - duh
2. Shane - Literally one of the best characters in the show, showed what happens if you adapt too quickly and his good vs evil stuff with dale in season 2 was very good too!
3. Negan - I think the savior arc was dragged on too long and that drags him down the list for me
Shane wasn’t a villain because he adapted to quickly. He was a villain because he couldn’t handle normal life, like the girl he liked not being with him so he tried to murder his best friend and SA’d his best friends wife.
@@kylereese5841 didnt mean he was a villain bc he adapted too quickly, meant it in the way that he was seen as an outsider due to him adapting too quickly
@@kylereese5841 that's way too oversimplified on shane lmao
@@IIIISai It's not, saying he was a villain cos he adapted quicker is oversimplified and just untrue, even with his more extreme tactics, his relationship to Rick and Lori and not being listened too was made him him antagonistic.
@@kylereese5841 Alright you redeemed yourself with this more informed message, but yes I agree, but it's also the survival, his whole randoll situation, his arguments with hershel about the barn lockers, that's what made him divided from the rest of the group, the lori stuff was the cherry on top, and was more of his downfall on the end, he died because he was so hung up on carl and lori having a strong figure it was him or rick, as for the group they were too soft for him, bet if lori and carl didn't exist, shane would leave the farm Because the group was too soft
I liked Negan the most. The way he psychologically fucked with people to get them to do what he wanted was pretty good. He was also a pretty charismatic character as well. The way he was able to form a big group and have other communities follow suit and provide whatever he needed is pretty impressive. The walking dead definitely went well past it’s expiration date. Pretty much turned into a wash and repeat situation for bad guys. You see how intimidating they can be and then they make similar mistakes and ricks group gets the upper hand and wins. That group of elite trained soldiers all of the sudden turned into regular people and got destroyed.
I know right
I wish it had ended with the whispers. And when they introduced Princess???? That’s when I pretty much stopped watching.
I love how the top 4 all represent different fears which is why they are so effective, and why the others are less memorable. The whisperers are the manifestation of paranoia, what could be lurking around any corner, hiding waiting to pounce. Shane is the fear of those turning against you. Negan represents the fear of those who enjoy and laugh at their murderous actions, while the Governor is the fear of people going too far. Everyone else feels like a branch of these or just “bad group”. The exception possibly being the commonwealth as that’s the fear of corruption but you could apply that to the Governor too with his lust for power.
I would say the Governor more manipulation. A classic narcissistic sociopath.
Absolutely love negan, but there was something about the governor that felt so… idk he was such an amazing character and villain
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I think that Dawn and her officers at Grady Memorial always get overlooked as Villains, for the exact same reasons you said here. But when I watched those episodes and we explored the inner workings of the hospital, Dawn's mental state, the power dynamics and what the other officers were doing to the patients. It's definitely worth noting Dawn let her officers do things to their prisoners that Negan didn't even allow. While maybe not quite as threatening as Negan and his army I think that they had one of the most profound effects on Rick and our group, he even says so to Daryl "I lost something there, I know you did too". While never explicitly stated, Dawn's officers are using the wards as slaves, indentured servants at best and they were so effectively institutionalized not one of them went with Rick when he offered. Rick is a man that put faith in his job, in his uniform and the first group of people he meets still wearing theirs, holding onto that same line of thinking, are a bunch of slavers, rapists and murderers? And with how Rick killed officer Lamson, I always see that as the final nail in the coffin of Rick's old life.
That's a good take on that ark
Yea I was going to point it out as well that Dawn and her officers are a direct commentary of the institutionalization of police. A commentary on how they behave and how much of a reflection they are of police in real life, except here being in a post apocalyptic world
You really don't expect a commentary on police so organically written into a zombie apocalypse, like it's a brilliant idea of an arc and a very smart way of making Rick reflect on him being a sheriff once.
I think the reason it wasn't received too well is because it very annoyingly hijacked the story, so suddenly putting the characters in a new environment on a new incredibly risky mission after they just had to fight a whole other hostile group, like it was a very obvious filler that took significant time to become interesting on it's own.
@Itch yea I like that it contrasts Rick being a sheriff as well. It analyzes a side of his character that we didn't get before.
It does kind feel like filler so you're right about that. I think this would have been more consequential of an arc if Beth didn't die. She grows a lot being with Daryl and she really comes into her own throughout this arc. If she ended up staying with the group and being a solid voice to listen to, it would have made this arc feel a lot less like filler and more like a crucial moment for character growth.
I honestly think the only reason rick didnt brutally kill those hospital cops (with the exception of lamson) was because seeing them in their uniforms reminded him of what his old life was once like before shtf (Shane, him being a cop, etc)
I mean Rick is a pretty big villian, imagine the story being told on another side, he would be the most menacing antagonist ever
I think it was season 8 or 9 when the group started to have that thinking that what if they are the villain in other's lives. (sorry english is not my first language)
@@BebsTaem definitely, they explored that idea in the show.
But he's literally morally adjust compared to everone he fought. He already knew what type of people the savors was before attacking them,governor was obviously bad and even finding out he was a creep to Maggie was enough to attack.
rick isn't a villian, horrible idea
@@IIIISai Rick only killed those who threatened him and his people.
5:07 the ending scene of season 11b was badass though, where lance and the commonwealth take every community over and mark it with their flag 🔥
was so good. 11c was a let down for me. i loved 11a and 11b
personally I thought negan was the best villain of the show. His introduction was menacing and suspenseful. He was manipulative. And a really funny villain where it’s like you like him but you hate him at the same time. He’s number one on my list.
However my dad found the whisperers and alpha scary. Funny story when they were first introduced when they took their mask off. My dad just called them “the fakes” as in fake zombies 😂. Every time a walkers pops up and he’s like “OH, THATS A FAKE!! wait never mind it’s real” 😂
I called the white walkers from game of thrones I still dont know why
Negan vs Governor.. pretty sure Governor wins
Negan’s soliloquies were just too much for me to enjoy him thoroughly
@@ThornedZ Woodbury didnt have the numbers
Man, you had me rolling my eyes when you said Rick at first. Quit messing with us. 😂
I thought Lance was a compelling villain (although certainly not #1). But after they built him up for awhile, they killed him off rather abruptly. The payoff just wasn't there and it felt like they could've done more with his character. Although the whole Commonwealth story seemed rushed to me anyway as they needed to wrap it up for Season 11.
I fell that Lances death was abrupt just to see that Lance himself has hit enough dead ends to say “that’s that”.
I would have liked it all more if lance couped pamela and became the final villain.
I would have loved it if he was connected with the CRM or the French and be connected with the spin-offs, who knows maybe he is still connected in some capacity,
@@maskedninja6883 It felt like they were hinting at a possible connection with CRM. Even if not the CRM though, it would've been nice to see what his connections were. Especially with the whole railroad thing, it seemed as though our characters' "world was about to get a whole lot bigger" only for us to not see a single community that the railroad connected with. And then none of it was ever brought up again.
When season 11 was airing and they killed Lance in such a disappointing way, I was sure that there would be some actual pay off (especially considering the whole "let him turn" thing that neither Daryl nor Carol would ever have gone along with by that point in the story in my opinion). I was originally assuming Lance would usurp Pamela before the end since he was the more interesting villain anyway, but after he was killed I started thinking, and hoping, that Walker Lance would be the one to actually kill Pamela (and not as some kind of stupid suicide attempt), and that he might have come back as one of those special walkers to make getting rid of her surprising or important in some way. It would have been a great opportunity for them to do something, ANYTHING, with that concept. It was such a shame they did absolutely nothing with not only Lance, but the special walker reveal as well, and just having Pamela see him and just feel....bad about it I guess? didn't cut it.
For me, Philip ( The Governor) it is not only the best villain but also the best character in the entire TWD series. His psichological and mental downfall is so well written and captures so well what was going through his mind on every event that turned him. After everything in the end before he kills Herschell he wanted to believe Rick, he wanted to believe that the world could be better and people could be saved, but he went through so much pain, violence, horror and loss that his pessimistic side couldn't accept anything good anymore, and then he punishes the biggest simbol of hope and peace, which was Herschell himself. That's a true well written villain. It explains why and how he got there cause you don't born as the villain, you become one, there's depth and character development.
Philip Blake is the best.
PS: the scene that he burns Woodbury is pure art
Alpha’s the most pure evil, Governor is the most vengeful and Negan is the most charismatic
Gregory is quite well acted. Gotta give credit there.
I liked the theme music being under each villain/group. The Reapers theme is underrated.
Last pale light in the west is a fantastic theme for the Governor. I'm happy you mentioned that.
Personally I think the governor is the best villain because he left me on the edge of my seat and he was just built different
The Governor is a bad guy trying to be good
Negan is a good guy trying to be bad
Best villains ever. The Governor is just memorable because he's the first one to threaten Rick's group. Truly made his impact, alongside with the other things happening in the prison. When I rewatch TWD, the prison arc is always top tier. He killed Hershel too, like, I hate him but he's really good.
They are both bad people.
Negan is not a good guy. He wasn’t before the zombies either
I know right
Every time I heard the Govenors theme in the show it would just fill me with dread
If the governor never ran into Rick he’d have a considerably large group behind him, at least Alexandria size after some more dictator years. Lots of evil leader potential. You only saw the beginning and a peak of the middle of his reign, super scary potential. Man had a tank!!!
The claimers theme and the outfits they wear will always be my favorites
Absolutely agree that the Governor has the best theme in the show. Any time he would come on screen my husband and I would be like “wub wub wub” 😂 He’s such a great, menacing character played brilliantly by David Morrissey!
The governor will always be my fave twd villain. One eye Bri was nuts. You didn't know if he was winking or blinking. That whistle was creepy as hell.
I think if you're going to include Shane, you have to include Merle as well. You could lump him in with the Governor, but he really is his own character with his own story.
But Shane’s death was one of a few deaths that shaped him into the man he became, mentally affecting him first before the death of Glenn, Lori, Hershel, or Carl.
@@motorheaddead are you talking about rick
yess i've always said the governor was the best villain of the show, the only character you dread to see on screen because you know what he's capable of.
Number 1 has gotta be Ed! The way he dominated the group and spread fear amongst their ranks. How he treated Carol and Sophia, the way it took everything in Shane’s power to overthrow Ed’s tyrannical regime. Ed was weakened by Shane and that’s the only reason why the Walkers got the jump on him.
Auh yes the character in one season
I’m guessing this is a joke if it’s not 💀
The Governor will always be the creepiest villain hands down. The way he murdered his own people and his extreme desire to torture Michonne, Andrea, Milton and wants to wipe out the entire prison including Carl and Judith is just insane. He’s a scary man
The Governor was just ENTIRELY different. This man was what, not even a year into the apocalypse and already menacing everyone within 100 miles of his operation? Dude was off a perc. I pale to wonder what he was like before the end of the world even, because it took him a concerningly little amount of time to go full Darth Sidious. He needed to be eliminated 😭
I genuinely can't find fault here, I found myself agreeing or coming to agree when you went into your reasons as a lot of this is nail on the head, I had a lapse when Negan was silver but my memory jumped straight at the governer who I agree was the best villain
I agree on the Pamela Milton/ Lance Hornsby thing, I think they should have had Lance kill Pamela and seize control. He was the superior villain of the two.
Either way they weren’t that strong of villains anyway. They tried to make Hillary Clinton in the zombie apocalypse and it didn’t work at all.
@@Chadius_Thundercock agreed, neither one was anything special, but Pamela was especially pathetic. And yeah lmao she kinda was like a Zombie Apocalypse Hillary.
One of the really scary things about the governor is that he believed there were traces of humanity in the walkers yet did unbelievably ruthless things to them. Indicating that if he could put actual living human heads in fish tanks, he would. Dude was probably the most evil character the show ever sees.
In my opinion, the Reapers could've been the ultimate danger to the group's survival. They had so much potential, but dang, what a waste of characters!
Lance ended up being one of my favorite villains
The Governor is 100% the best villain but my favourite will always be Shane due to Jon Bernthal Absolutely bossing it, he owned so many scenes in Season 2 and really carried it along
Shane Walsh is TWD at its best. It was never as good without him. Killing him was a HUGE mistake
@@Spooky_515 such a insane actor, every scene with him was captivating. You felt like you are right next to him. He is the only reason Season 2 is worth watching
@@Spooky_515 no it wasn’t. Shane was what pushed Rick to finally accept the world he’s in, to push Rick to doing what’s necessary to survive. Letmetellyousomething, you think it would’ve been possible for Rick and Shane to coexist after season 2? It was doomed to fail, and his death is what turned Rick into a beast
Glad u included Simon I really liked him and he was so underrated
I always wonder what would’ve happened if the Governor and Negan had met and how they would’ve dealt with each other since they were both so ruthless and charismatic as villains.
The governor cant handle threats and stress as good. He was hiding in his room while his city was rebelling and he killed all his soldiers.
Woodbury's biggest issue was that they desperately tried to create a illusion of normality. They forgot the apocalypse and thus their skills and knowledge about survival.
Negans people are hard trained, nothing scares them and their loyality is unmatched.
@@HELLFIRE0239but 1v1 the governor slams
My favorite unintentionally funny Governor moment is when just after he loses eye, he attacks the prison and fires on them from the treeline where he aims with his eyepatch instead of his working eye.
I know the Gov at #10 is a troll
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Him and gareth are under rated
he has to be top 3 he is more of a villain than negan. the governor r*ped people
Your the First Btw
The governor was and will always be the peak of twd. He was a true villain/sociopath. The actor completely sold the role as well. much better than the comic book variation.
Shane: Lust ( His Lust for Lori)
Governor: Greed ( He took other communities stuff and fought for control)
Negan: Pride ( Never was willing to accept defeat and always believed in his policies)
Simon: Envy ( Wanted to be the leader of the saviours and take Negans role)
Alpha: Sloth ( Didn't do anything about the other communities or them having her daughter for a while)
Beta: Wrath ( Looked for every chance to attack the communities and get revenge for alpha)
Terminus: Gluttony ( They ate people to survive)
Damn bro
Pamela - greed
Jadis - Envy
Pope?
@@altheuss pope would be pride
Amazing
Great way to put it
Happy to see Simon cracking the list. He was a great henchman.
My opinion, governor is the best twd villain. His backstory is great, and his buildup in his character was just perfect, wasn't rushed or anything. And tbh, he was Rick and the groups first big threat in the apocalypse and no other group had as much of an impact as the governor
Dude Lance had so much potential and they fucked it all up
The governor has to be number one for sure… the only thing I didn’t like is he got off way too easy and died too quick… he could’ve got stabbed and then Michonne could’ve walked away and let the walkers do the rest.
Which is what she did
@@Qsrjeiwjwj but you didn’t get to see it like you did in the comics ☹️
i love how you themed the background music to the music that played in TWD around each of those villain arc times. Really nice touch of detail man big ups
They are all very cool. My favorites are Beta, Joe, Teddy from FTDW and Carver from Telltale S2
Teddy's cool. I also like troy though. Imo i like governor better than beta
Awesome list man, the governor was the best villain for me personally.
Governor should have had his own spinoff
Wow thanks Thiesty Typewriter . I appreciate the time you take and the details you go into . Thanks again .have a great day
The Governor was great but I did like the idea that after the resource heavy battle with the Saviours the next threat was low tech and messed-up because the resources are used up. You are going to have one or two psychologically messed up people in that existence after a time and you got Alpha and Beta. They were like the price to be paid for what it took to defeat Negan.
I just finished Season 3 yesterday for the umpteenth time. The government for sure #1. Some characters you mentioned I never thought as evil villains. There were a lot of creepy ppl is how I'd categorize them.
Simon is the best actual villain on the walking dead and I found myself liking him and looking forward to seeing him despite how evil he was
I agree pretty well with this list. But the Whisperers are my favorite. The idea is so cool and clever. I feel like more could have been done with them, although that just might make them feel dragged out. But the way the inflict psychological terror on the Survivors is so intriguing
I always felt like Terminus had the best characters that never got explored. Gareth seemed to steal the scene every time he was on. I always think they wasted so much potential with how fast the storyline went. They should have developed the group more, especially Gareth and Martin.
Just finished the series last night! It’s good to finally be able to watch videos like this one
I absolutely agree with The Governor at the 1th place! I loved him and I would be grateful if he didnt die. Negan, Shane, Alpha are great too, but the governor was at the end pure evil with no emotions and when I was a kid I was so afraid of him. One of the best villains in any Show or Movie in my opinion.
Mine is:
1) The Governor
2) Shane (In my opinion he wasn't a pure villain, he was just too smart for his group :D)
3) Negan
4) Alpha
5) Simon
I'm glad you did this. I was thinking about how many villains were on the show.
Joe is probably one of the most underrated characters in the whole show. Him and The Claimers felt like what would be real if awful people joined together in the apocalypse which would absolutely happen. Him and Shane were probably the most realistic villains in the entire show. I mean, the Governor and Negan are just a blast to watch and definitely my favorites but Joe had that sense of realism, same with Shane who in my opinion, is tied with the Governor as best twd villain.
when Rick Grimes popped up at number 1 you soured my whole mood so quick leaving the Governor off the list. Glad i was wrong 😅
With all the side bad guys the show offers, I always truly see the show as having the big three bads. The governor, negan, and the whisperers. They brought the most to the show, they affected the group the most, and they all brought amazing and interesting arcs to the show.
-Governer brought probably one of the most important arcs to the show. The first real big bad the group had to face. While negan was dangerous, he was predictable. He had rules, decency’s. Governer had no control, wore a smile well to get what he wanted.
-Negan with the most emotional arc, losing such important characters and the first time the group felt powerless. Even though he definitely overstated his welcome just a tad, he was one of my favorite arcs in the show.
-And whisperers “ my fav antagonist”brought the most interesting arc IMO. Easily the most dangerous threat the group had to face, being able to control hordes at a time and use that as a weapon. While most have to worry with 2 enemies, humans and zombies, whisperers had tunnel vision on humans to get what they want. Easily the most badass antagonists.
The governor was perfect and should always be number 1 on these lists.
The show was peak when he was the villain
Overall I’d give it Negan, as he’s also one of my top 3 favorite characters. He knew how to instill fear into people while also being funny. But if it would be based individually, I’d say the Governor. He was scarier on his own and I’d even say Negan had more of a moral compass than him.
fair statement army wise negan is number one but as a single one person the governor is the best villain you could also say beta as well but most of the time beta had people and or zombie hordes so i just simply dont see him as a threat solo wise so imma say the gov being the best solo wise
The has one of the most realistic villains in a series or movie I seen cause if you take away the apocalypses aesthetic in this universe, you still get what some of these people motive, hatred, ideals, and had all one thing in common, survive and to prove their ways of surviving is right until they come across ricks group and we all know what they been through over the years in this apocalypse.
In fact, there wasn't a single character on the show that had more potential than Lance. He couldn't be killed. He could be a cunning manipulator, weaving various intrigues and the most cunning character in the show. It could also be used in spin-offs when the writers show us CRM.
Imagine, different representatives of the authorities weave intrigues against each other, trying to lower each other in the eyes of Pamela. These authorities take our heroes as assistants. There is a struggle for power, in which Lance wins. Later, Pamela dies and Lance becomes the leader, a new threat appears - CRM. Later, Rick shows up. Lance, knowing that CRM is stronger, tries to suck up to them. Rick, seeing this, overthrows Lance and starts a war. Lance goes over to Beall's side. There is a brutal war in which many die. At this time, Rick again becomes dangerous, as he was in season 5. A bearded Rick with a murder jacket and a red machete. And most importantly, Rick has become a cool strategist, thinking through cunning plans. After six months of a war in which the Commonwealth was losing for the most part, riots suddenly broke out in CRM, citizens and soldiers turned against the authorities. LANCE. While in CRM, he, along with his spies, accumulated information against CRM, turned the military against each other, revealed the secret of the death of an entire community from TWD: WB. The Commonwealth learned of Lance's exploit. Rick defeated CRM by sacrificing his life and killing Beall. CRM and the Commonwealth have become allies. Daryl became head of the Commonwealth. Having grown old, he gave the reins of government to Carl. End. Lance died a natural death.
Gareth has no business being this high on the list.
Shane was definitely a villain, but only because of perspective. He was a reflection of who Rick was going to become, but nobody could have known what was ahead. I'm sure he amd Rick would have been best friends to the end if it wasn't because of the Lori affair
Rick wouldn't shoot an innocent person in the foot just to escape the walkers. Rick did go darker and stop being ho0eful, saving everyone, however he wasn't quite shane
Shane was only a villain through ricks eyes. He left Rick at the hospital in a situation he couldn’t control and believed there was no way Rick could survive being he was in a coma and the military were killing everyone. He got Lorre and Carl to safety with best intentions, not to turn it into what it became.
@@dannyboy4682he ripped out dudes jugular with his teeth to save Carl yet he wouldn’t shoot Farman in the foot? I’m not buying that lol
@@dannyboy4682 he would if it would save his son. season 5 rick wouldve killed otis as soon as he shot carl lmao.
I agree with the Governor being top on this list. He was just plain evil. BUT the most terrifying that i've seen in the show was the introduction of Negan. When he came down from the van and appear right in front of the group with the baseball bat.. istg that scene traumatize me.
I was laughing so hard when he trash talked the trash people. 😂
Governor is the best . Negan had other people do his "dirty work". Governor is the kind of guy to say "meet me outside".
Aside from negan and the governor, I liked simon as a villain.
Shane was a great antagonist because he was more of a red herring than a true bad guy.
There where things he did in the name of survival and protection of the group that made him seem unhinged at the time but by the time the next season rolled around most of group had made more steps to becoming like him than they would be willing to admit
Negan, the governor and the whisperers interchangeable for me depending on my mood. I personally think Pamela was a pretty good villain and agree she needed more time, but I loved her in the first episodes of the final part where she out of left field took the main villain spot. Lance definitely should have been the main villain throughout the final season though. I think the scavengers being the worst villains is pretty much unanimous. Love your videos btw! Keep up the good work!
100% agree with Lance. It felt like they introduced some of the Commonwealth characters for the soul purpose of being killed... That's my only complaint about season 11. I think it definitely impacted the length of some of the stories being either too long or too short.
Negan to me is by far the best character on this list, his presence is just something else. And the fact he has a redemption arc after is just the cherry on top
Governor was much better actually. He had a better theme and survived on his own. You see Negan needed his group to survive and he dominant. But the governors group needed HIM. Governor had way more military skills and his character arc formed instead of being Mr nice guy at the end. Negan also was a mid actor who mostly was based off funny scenes instead of actual writing. So nah. Governor is best Villian
@@ynwgoob6467 Negan was much scarier to deal with as he was very unpredictable. He also got his redemption arc. Much better and fleshed out character/vilain
Governor has always been my favorite villain of the show, glad to see someone who agrees
Negan is the best villain in twd history. Governor was a good model for what would come. The claimers,Terminus and the wolves are good stand ins for the marauders, the hunters and scavengers. The reapers are probably the best tv exclusive villains for twd.
My personal favorite villain was Shane. He encompassed the early seasons mentality. We were new to the walking dead and so was the viewers so we saw him as a villain, but looking back we see him as a warning sign of what’s to come. He fit his role perfectly and I love Jon bernthals portrayal. The governor fit amazing as well but his death never sat right with me. Just the minor fist fight then stabbed by michone, to then be shot. It was kinda a mess and didn’t seem like a good send off compared to Shane’s send off where it was brothers against each other along with us learning all people are infected.
Lance being so low is a fucking crime.
Agreed!
Am I the only one that thinks Shane and Simon are very alike in how they were getting impatient with their groups leader and tried to overthrow them in the same type of way but for a different reason
Honestly, I hope Dawn or the Wolves are dead last, besides dawn killing Beth, she had basically no impact on our characters whatsoever, no change in thought process or anything, same with the wolves. The only argument against the wolves being dead last is they caused Alexandria to be overrun and indirectly caused Carl to lose his eye, but they had not direct impact on the groups process
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Rick is not villainous at all, some people say that he is because of what he did to the saviors, but he did that because the saviors were already enslaving people , beating peoples heads in and coercing women into sex, which he learned from hilltop, nothing he did to them, makes him a villain.
the governor was the best because he’s the only one that in my opinion was completely unhinged and had the least amount of reason to attack ricks group
Negan is a better character but the governor is the best villain he was crazy but also pretty smart and knew how to manipulate people and hide who he truly was he had lost everything and he took his anger out on the world
1. Negan (saviours)
2. Alpha & beta (whisperers
3. The governor
4. The slashers
5. Sanctuary
6. Hornsby
7. Pamela Milton
8. The claimers
9. The wolves
10. The trash people
The way they handled Hornsby was so disappointing. He was the Highlight of Season 11 outside of Negan and Maggie
All that buildup for him to be nothing in the end. Lance should have been the Final villain of the show. Not Pamela....what were they thinking....
I love you for putting Rick on the first place. AHAAHAHAHAH!
Governor definitely does NOT have the best villain theme song. Not even top 2! Those belong to Lance Hornsby (Heads or Tails is a goosebumps-inducing crescendo) and Easy Street for Negan!
The only thing interesting about the Grady Cops is that they used some of the plot elements of the Woodbury arc from the comics that weren't used in Seasons 3 or 4, such as Rick crippling one of them with a car, a character losing an arm, etc.
The whisperer topped it when they beheaded some of our group and put their head on a stake, so we can see them. Most emotional scene for me.
I think why most of you are rating the governor as no 1 is because he is the first villain that really threaten our group.
True if I see someone like beta I would run miles for safety but the governor he’s a charming narcissist that you won’t see coming and you remember the walker heads in the tanks he would stare at and having a zombie daughter he obsessed over and what he had planned for michonee was way over the top brutality craziness
Everything inbetween when Rick and the group arrived at the prison to when they arrived at Alexandria was my favorite part about this whole show. I'm probably alone in thinking that the show was at it's best with the orignal small group, as compared to how big the group became after they arrived at Alexandria
15. Reapers: Useless and EXTREME wasted pote tial. They were cool, tho ig.
14. Dawn & gang: Just, very mediocre.
13. Joe & gang: Weren't great, but they served in Ricks most crucial moment in the show.
12. Jadis & trash monkeys: Not good, but not the worst.
11. Gregory: Annoying prick, but he had some good dynamics.
10. Pamila
9. Wolves
8. Lance
7. Gareth
These four just had interesting scenes and mindsets toward the apocalypse and probably change with a rewatch.
Other side Saviors like Regina, Arat, etc.
6. Beta: Same as Alpha, just not as fleshed.
5. Simon: Was acted and played really well, and I just love his psychoticness.
4. Alpha: Very interesting group and villain to introduce after Ricks leave.
3. Shane: First true villian, and tho I don't believe he was ahead of the curve(I actually believe he was a coward), he did play a big role in Ricks character.
2. Negan: He is 100% a better character than Gov, but as a villain, Phillip tops him.
1. Phillip: What you said straight up menace, badass, bomb ass theme, etc.
governer is best villain but whisperer is the most unique type of villain so for me both are on top.