Joe Rogan Tells Russell Brand to Quit Veganism
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- Joe Rogan tells Russell Brand to "Get off that !@#$ing vegan diet" when talking about martial arts training. Joe's claims around vegan propaganda, meat being healthy, and the ethics of hunting merited a response.
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He's fit and healthy, so he should quit being vegan. Cognitive dissonance mindblow.
As Joe gets fatter and fatter and the cholesterol clogs his mind he has a hard time visualizing all the stacks of cash he gets from the beef industry
Joe thinks that if Russell is good now he will become super human when he eats meat. Final form god super saiyan
All vegans are at first
Hal Asimov he’s pretty lean idk what you’re talking about
This guy is insane. "Russell, you're extremely healthy..you should abandon your vegan diet and shove grass fed beef steaks down your throat. And while you are at it here is some animal derived hormone and thyroid supplements because my body is so jacked up that it can't produce these hormones naturally. Russell, be like me...fat, bald and miserable. "
Joe "I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm going to say it anyway, without any scientific evidence" Rogan.
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@@ginjonuskis1656 Lol he will say that video is "funded by the meat and dairy industry" like they always do
@@ginjonuskis1656 I have been cringing lately at the ketogenic diet proponents because everybody's toting keto keto keto. This video was interesting I will say. we will just have to see the long-term effects in regards to the high meat and high fat consumption with cardiovascular disease. Nevertheless, I don't know how this diet can possibly be sustainable for the masses
@@MrTripsJ considering how low profit animal products really are I don't see why would so called "big meat" fund disinfo. It's much cheaper to sell sugar to people, which is what most of the vegan diet consists of because they can't eat their food without taste enhancements.
@@RealRatchet most of the vegan diet? If you're eating eating mostly whole plant foods how are they fortified with sugar?
Dang... Joe Rogan seems really insecure around plant-based eaters. He's talking to vegans like the alcoholic who tries to get all his friends to drink with him...
Bingo
Yeah it is insecure beyond words. It's like he realises deep down he should be vegan (For health, animals, planet or whatever) but that would be admitting he was wrong all his life. Basically like a christian realising there is no god.
I think there's a possibility that he is an alcoholic.
Eating meat isn't bad. Lmao how is eating meat bad. We are meant to eat both you veggie fucks
@Anonymous1 You are making yourself look a total moron, my man. Stick to xbox.
*"You'll be better"* . Sure champ. Exploiting helpless beings is the definition of self-improvement.
Complains about vegans trying to convert people, then tells every vegan that he talks to they should eat eggs because animal protein though.
Rogan saying "I wish I could be more like that" means "I wish all vegans could be like that" (not pushing their views on others).
I’m not vegan. But I don’t get why Joe is so upset with someone who chooses that lifestyle. It’s working for Russel so why down it? I used to enjoy his show but he’s so red and aggressive now.
@@gwendolyncampbell7932 "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you"... I think that's where we are now.
Carina Ekström What’s funny is I did try being Vegan but I think I did it wrong I was raw vegan and too extreme and I will gradually go back and do it in a more traditional way. That said ,I agree with you and I feel like he is resisting. Like he knows being vegan could be good but is fighting it tooth and nail. He’s willing to try all other things,he should just try it or at least be vegetarian and stop his hunting nonsense for a while. He’d be less angry I bet.
@@gwendolyncampbell7932 Yes, and if eating hunted animals is so natural and healthy for him, how come he feels a need to take testosterone and all that stuff?
It's wonderful that you want to try veganism again, you seem to already be there in your heart. It's good that we get all this info about failed veganism, so we can learn to do it right. I suggest you go very slow, since there are so many things that have compromised our guts in the modern world. So building up a beneficial gut flora is very important and doing it slowly and carefully. Personally I haven't had meat for almost 50 years, and I have no gut problems whatsoever. I wish you the best of luck!
Joe ‘you should really eat some animal protein” Rogan. 😆 I was hoping someone would jump on this. Thanks Mic!
joe rogan is subhuman.
Joe "I Need Hormone Replacement Therapy" Rogan
Joe "love is the answer, and I love to see people beat the crap out of each other" Rogan
💀💀
Simnett Nutrition come on D, just have some animal protein you’ll double your loaded muscle up reps ;). Just have a tiny bit.
Trust me just have some animal protein
I think it's great when people scream and yell about vegans. It means they're starting to pay attention.
Yup, it's awesome.
@@joys8634 Whatever you want it to, bro.
Lmao, there are 90 times more videos of vegans against meat eaters than anything. You need a reality check
@@CK-my6my Dude, there are some parts of reality I give ZERO flying fucks about. I just don't have the time. And that "90 times" bunch, even if they do exist, are part of that group. Also: "against" is a word that can mean almost anything. But appreciating that would require doing nuance, and I totally get that nuance is not your thing. Whatever.
Ronald Garrison your reply doesn’t make any sense what so ever kid. Where was the word “against” written anywhere?? I replied to your comment with facts, go online and see how many vegans make videos crying and how many meat eaters. You got it all wrong bro, probably the lack of nutrients already damaged your brain cells
You know it's actually the funniest thing. Before I went vegan, I used to listen to Joe Rogan's podcasts every day, which eventually led me to this one with Russell Brand. After watching this, I started to listen to Russell Brands podcasts and he actually helped me to transition to veganism. So in a way I can thank Joe Rogan for helping me become vegan :)
Love it!! ❤
Come back to the light!
I hope you dislike joe rogan now tho
ugh, you’re weak. fuck veganism!
Brilliant! 😂
I can't express with words how exhausted I am with Joe Rogan
Kerstin Norberg stop watching him then
@@IEEteammateMATT1 Speaking for myself, I try to actively avoid joe, but he shows up everywhere. I thumbs down his videos, I push the not interested choice, repeatedly. He shows up. I avoid....and now here he is on my vegan channel...
problem is he's got plenty of fellow dummies following him spreading his cancerous bullshit. This dude would never have made it if it wasn't for UFC and the legions of CTE characters. Sorry but hillary was right about one thing....Basket of deplorables.
@@SuperDodoe the thing is, if you're a UFC fan, Joe Rogan is a great source for UFC commentary and culture. However, when it comes to literally anything else, it's like babysitting a kid. and his fans aren't too bright either
@@isamuranable i agree...im down with joe's commentary on all things ufc but everything else he's just not qualified or informed. He's got to be schooled before he schools his fans on health and nutrition.
This is infuriating. He says he hates propaganda, but then tries to convert Russell brand... and he's sponsored by bone broth!
Who is pushing his beliefs on whom? It must be the militant vegan, always forcing their beliefs on everyone
Waiting for the day Dr. Michael Greger is invited to his podcast and destroy all of Joe Rogan's arguments
@W.A M.P Joe would never agree
He's too much of a coward to invite him on. People have been begging him for years and still no dice.
@W.A M.P Whoa calm down man. It looks like your getting very emotional. Maybe all the hormone pump meat and dairy you've been eating.
@W.A M.P Why are you so worried about the deforestation of the rain forest? You do know 75% of soy and corn go to live stock. So that 75% of corn and soy could go to people that need it. Your pretty much saying "Well your killing unintentionally so I have the right to kill intentionally all I want. Plus I didn't even say I hated joy Rogan. You make no sense at all
@W.A M.P, Jesus Christ, you are delusion my friend. I dont even know where to start.
Joe Rogan is like somebody's arrogant alcoholic dad who dropped out of high school, but because he's got a job that makes him able to pay the bills, he thinks he's in a position to give others life advice.
Are you talkung feom experience?
That's not far off from Rogan's actual description.
Not everyone that drops out of school is stupid.
@Darin Newhook alcoholic dads would definitely hunt
@Darin Newhook nice guys don't encourage needless murder
Joe really doesn't know what he's talking about. It's clear he's against Veganism, and always will be.
Assuming his podcast goes on pretty much for the remainder of his life... I think there will be too many famous intelligent vegan interviewees for him to avoid. I doubt he will want his podcast to end with years of evidence that he's not actually that inquisitive, he's actually wilfully ignorant. He'll realise it in the float tank one day aged 80
id love to be a fly on the wall when his doctor tells him he's got a bad case of colorectal cancer
Dino S One day, he will have serious health complications and will be terrified about what’s to follow. I have no sympathy for these people. They’ll always believe a ‘balanced diet’ is best because they see meat etc as food. It’s not.
Why does this guy turn more yellow everyday
He was a hardcore conspiracy nut in the past and changed that. Maybe he might one day also changes his mind on veganism. The one thing i can‘t really wrap my head around is how alot of psychonauts don‘t understand veganism or even oppose it, then again most of them may had an ego death experience but the ego reclaimed it’s power.
Why is Joe Rogan so threatened by veganism? It's like he's consistently triggered by the topic.
Cos his cholesterol is probably thru the roof...Im sure he's on lipitor in addition to all the other drugs. This dummy knows that his mortality is in jeopardy for short term gains.
Because he wants to make sure he is manly enough. Everything about him is about being afraid of not being man enough, not sure why and not sure how. Men are men and it's enough, it's great, it's fine. Meat and testoterone hormones jack him up so he can be the man he is afraid he's not?
@@StoryeTime great comment. Thanks!
@@StoryeTime well said...joe's is definitely afraid of not being seen as man enough.
And his income is from sponsors who aren't compatible with veganism
Oh, man. I wish Joe had told me I needed to eat animal protein before I, as a 57-year-old vegan, tested for (and passed) my 3rd-degree black belt test in Tae Kwon Do. Oh, wait ...
Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bone meal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming vegans made it up because they want to moan about something as usual.. there are critically vitiams and minerals deficient in a vegan diet particularly vitamins b12 vitiams d iron calcium zinc and riboflavin vegan diets can also increase the risk of vitiams a deficiency..
@@punson2220 .....if you have to pop pills because your not getting all of your vitamins from the food you eat than no you arn't healthy.
@@Bewefau I don't rake any pills=))))) lmao assuming people are talking pills lol
I am getting my nutrients from plants thank you!
Only B12( that is a bacteria and you wash the vegetables and clean the water with strong chemicals that take this vitamin away) and you can use spray! I think aloe Vera gel might have it too.
Plus you can eat fortified foods. I'm sure you already do
MEAT eaters are the ones taking the most pill
I figure it's more likely he's talking about the professionals :) still there's a decent heavyweight boxer that gives a vegan example
@@joejo4549 there are plenty of examples wth
Every time Joe talks about a subject I actually have expert knowledge on I notice he is presenting his half assed google knowledge with the confidence like he has a Ph.D. on the subject. Quite surprised about the following he has.
Joe Rogan does have a PhD - in BROSCIENCE. He must have got a first as well 👍
My cousin worships this guy haha. I never understood why
Well he does bring on doctors etc with PHD’s so i guess this world has just gone bat shit crazy and soon they’ll be war I guess 🤣
He's interesting because most of his podcasts are just conversations with people and they talk about interesting stuff in length. This meat and veganism stuff isn't actually a big part of the podcast. It's just people talking you don't have to only listen to people who you think are right 100% of the time
Classic Rogan contradicting himself by agreeing with Brand about not forcing one's morality on others, but then telling him to "get off the f*cking vegan diet". Is this man ever consistent with his words?
are you capable of comprehending a joke between 2 comedians? I'm sure if Russell said YES joe wouldn't have complained but did he say it again? No. He said you can eat egg. HOW DARE HE RIGHT? OMG THE HORROR.
For someone that hates proselytizing, he sure does it alot.
Uatu Pretty he jokingly said the first statement, and said Russell could source protein from eggs without the ethical guilt. If you seriously think he’s proselytising then you haven’t met vegans 🤣
Just hit the two year mark as a vegan. Never felt better.
Agree, just hit my third :)
On 9 months, and bodybuilding. No protein deficiencies yet!
I know you and you cheated many times lol. You have not been vegan for two years.
8 years here and going strong!! Will never go back! Wish I would have done it sooner
6 more days then it will be 2 for me
I’m not vegan but I’m slowly getting there I think morally. I stopped eating dairy
If you feel bad morally about eating animal products, eat mollusks, at least. They have no central nervous system and feel no pain. They are nutritionally complete; basically a super-food.
Go Jessica!
that’s so great to hear, keep going!
@Wungafication
Only the white european race is of abrahams seed and have a covenant with god.
Dont cry about souls, gtfo with your satanist beliefs from your forefathers
@Jessica stopping eating dairy is just a tiny step. MOST blacks are lactose intolerant anyway. Best to also give up eating ALL animals. Yet IF you really have given up dairy then you will reach your goal much easier than most being that CHEESE seems to be the hardest thing claimed tp stop eating. If you are eating vegan cheese that you will have zero problems stopping to eat meat and eggs. Try JUST EGGS and Violife is great non dairy cheese by John Salley. He also has vegan wines too being MOST wines are made with animal by-products. LOTS of plant based meats out there these days also. Get on Facebook and join a vegan food site to get more tips. There are hundreds of VEGAN books and magazines these days too. Once you start you will feel better too. My hard thing to give up was milk chocolate, salmon, clams and oysters. I eat Gardein products and the Crabless Cakes and Fish Filets helped end those cravings. I'm happy with dark chocolate now too. BUT try not to eat too much processed foods and no more than twice a week yet rather LOTS of veggies, fruits, legumes and nuts. I'm addicted to avocado's, brown rice and dates.
I believe Russel does care about animals deeply but he is such an awesome actor and performer that he is actually able to make Joe look like an asshole and really make fun of his behavior without Joe even realizing it.
My father had high cholesterol, put him on a vegan diet went down by a lot. People need to wake
You mean he’s deficient in cholesterol? And he’s gunna get brain issues ?
@@IEEteammateMATT1 No!! Your body makes ALL the cholesterol you need! How amazing! No need to eat cholesterol. Been vegan 18yrs and my blood work has never shown a cholesterol deficiency.
TwoSnakes OneSword what do you think your body eats when it can’t get enough calories or nutrition? It eats raw animal fat(yourself) and that’s what keeps cholesterol in check but it’s not sustainable
Andy G that’s awesome. I’m trying to get my dad to make changes but he is super duper against veganism for some reason. Like he’s allergic to the word. No matter how much data I throw his way and plead with him to change.
My dad's on medication for high cholesterol, I wish he would take his health seriously. My grandpa's heart was working at 13% capacity when he passed and had multiple heart attacks within his life, so I don't understand why my dad isn't getting the message.
Even just replacing his nightly bowl of ice cream with a vegan alternative would do wonders for him, yet he won't consider it. Oh well, I guess I just have to lead by example until he realizes what he's doing to his body:(
Joe Rogan should quit making sh** up and start educating himself with actual science.
Joe isn't making it up. Joe is reiterating the pseudoscience his hunger friends have told him.
Hunter*
Rogan just wants to enjoy butt pumping, according to Owen Benjamin.
@@jasonsimpson1397 Good point
@@linyenchin6773 Butt pumping?
Lifelong joe rogan fan; however I lost so much respect for the man after his recent podcast and his fight against vegansim. The science is pro vegan. The people are pro vegan. Come on joe. Be the role model you used to be to me 😔🤔👊 after reviewing the studies and reading people’s testimonies I am now vegan! 110%
But this wouldnt stop him from having a pro vegan on not afraid to challenge his views.
He’s sponsored by meat companies man. The money is more important to him
The science is NOT pro vegan, far from it. There is a consensus that veganism is not nutritionally healthy for humans. You can delude yourself as much as you like and keep shouting in your echo chamber.
He's an antivaxxer so it's not surprising
@@palimpsestransparent all the old people in the blue zones may disagree with you.
I love rogans show, but he obviously has something in his conscience that makes him insecure about veganism
It's called a fragile ego and it makes a LOT of males very insecure =P
Hunting is linked to psychosexual disorders...
Insecure is an odd word to use.
@@fs2300 bet youre one of those people who ate potatoes and salad all day
Maybe hes struggling to justify his actions
Funny he didn't try and tell Rich Roll to quit his vegan diet
He wouldn't dare, because he can't hold a candle to Rich Roll. I think they are about the same age too.
Russell is being sarcastic. Talking to joe like he’s stupid. Without letting him know. Lmao 😂
Naturally Perfect He’s a Brit. Sarcasm is essentially our second language. 😂
Yeah except Russel Brand isn’t some weird omniscient intellect he’s got no more ground to stand on than Rogan who by the way is far more influential in a positive way than Russels hippy-dippy nonsense.
Estevan McCann joe rogan is a moron
Exactly how I saw it .
I think joe was very sarcastic as well.
Mic, please go on Joe Rogan's podcast, you would wreck him 😂
Yeesss do it mic.. I lose IQ point by looking at hiimm
Pantea 😂
Wreck him with vegan propaganda? Sure.
Mic wold get destroyed by Joe Rogan. Mic has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about.
@@drunkbarkeeper5870 Remarkably, sir.
I, too, am of the similar conviction and share the troth that mine opinions aren't different from factual truth.
Our maestro Joe is truly without error. Ever so valorous and virtuous, his vast wisdom spreads like a plague.
His oratory capabilities art truly unmatched at which hour thee see how every word that gent utters is backed by hard science and a carefully chosen piece of a puzzle that only the intellectual populace that gazes his podcast can followeth with ease.
A being hitherto unheard of, he hath no egal among mortal folk.
We should beest ever so thankful to liveth in his time.
It is my fondest hope that a grizzly bear shows how it follows Rogan's hunting philosophy by eating him.
*I turned notifications on just so that I can be one of the firs to hear mic kindly rant. I have not yet been disappointed.*
That's one reason I respect Mike. He's kind. And of course science- and logic-based.
I see you on most videos of his. I understand why now.
😂 his arguments are childish and manipulative
"All vegan propaganda" won't say why. Being vegan needs advocating how else will the seeds be planted? Sitting back doing nothing will get nothing done. Mic your videos are very informative and helpful. You're doing a great job.
Well said👍
@@TheNaturalHealthBlogger you just did exactly what joe did. Didn't explain why. Care to give us the explainations on what makes them a myth which myths particularly? Every diet has its myths this is why you have to make extensive research on your own.
@@TheNaturalHealthBlogger do go on. You are grouping all vegans into one. Not all vegans are against the use of cooking oils not everyone agrees that nuts are bad for heart disease or over al health. Vegan just means living without animal products because there are other options to pick from. Not that all of them folloew the dame diet. You can keep adding but it's silly to believe that everyone follows an instruction book or a one size fits all diet.
@@TheNaturalHealthBlogger i don't care about animal foods we don't need them.
@@TheNaturalHealthBlogger you make these silly videos without actual satatics i see. In your b12 video it states that. Vegans are the lowest in b12. Without offering much of an explaination. Meat is being pumped with b12 so really there is no point in even trying to get from there, it wastes so many natural resources all so that at the end it can get injected with what it already os suppose to have. I'm good eating my veggies and and using suplements. I feel silly having ever even engage you in this conversation.
Joe is bought and paid for by onnit. Russell just seems healthier on every level.
Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bone meal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming vegans made it up because they want to moan about something as usual... there are critically vitiams and minerals deficient in a vegan diet particularly vitamins b12 vitiams d iron calcium zinc and riboflavin vegan diets can also increase the risk of vitiams a deficiency....
@alias paul they are only black coal
It's Joe's company. At least get your facts correct.
Wow, J.R. Is really a “meat head” in more ways than one. 😂
Less than a year ago I actually enjoyed listening to joe, since I've learned his stance on veganism and hearing him chat it up with mr. Peterson, I cant look at this fool the same 🤣 what a joke
Me too. I used to watch it until he started talking shit about vegans and making fun of us. Screw him
Yeah, he is an absolute mong,
He is such a hypocrite pushing propaganda and telling others how to live.. so stupid
It is not just joe either.. All major media is an outlet for major industries! He has some amazing interviews from time to time but his big financial backers are obviously the big agro-cgem cartels.
He's interesting until he speaks on a topic you are knowledgeable about. Then you realise he's a moron
"Grass-fed." Yeah. "I smoke, but the tobacco was grown organically on virgin soil..."
You just compared food with tobacco
Damn bunch of weirdos
I would never hangout with people like you
You probabbly hurt people too
@@dettol7245 So much dramatic irony. I can just see the cognitive dissonance from a mile away. Just a few months ago, I was hating on vegan videos like you. You're in the final phase, looking forward to seeing you vegan in a few months or so.
@@dettol7245Even if we step away from the whole vegan vs omni thing, negative health outcomes from obesity are comparable to smoking tobacco -i think. Food is something we deal with every day, so a bad relationship with food can really take a toll on our lives over time.
@@dettol7245 tobacco = carcinogen, (most)meat = carcinogen
@@dettol7245 Funny how here in the US, health insurance companies and public health academics compare non-respiration behaviors to smoking all the fucking time to try to communicate urgency.
"Sitting is the new smoking."
"Obesity is the new smoking."
Anti-veganism is the new black.
Rogan masculinity fear ... hahahahahaha Rogan has just shown himself to have a huge gaping hole in his intellect
nobody who actually has listened to his arguments really believes he's intelligent. he just has well educated, smart people on the show sometimes because it makes him look smart when he just nods along while pretending to understand the topic.
He's like that one guy in every group project/meeting that just sits at the edge of the circle and goes "yeah its all about finding the right balance" and then acts like he contributed to the work
I have eaten a lot of meat in my life and i have eaten lots of fruits and veggies. I can say without a doubt i am much smarter and stronger eating a vegetarian diet. I play lots of basketball and soccer and my ability has raised after stopping eating meat and lots of dairy. If you want to eat meat then go ahead, but if you want to perform at your best i advise a vegan/vegetarian diet.
Vegan martial artist here! Eliminating eggs never hurt my progress at all...in fact, I feel like I recover faster and have gained a lot of lean muscle I didn’t have before. Thanks, tofu!
Eliminating eggs, got rid of Cholesterol Deposits around my Eyes. 3 hard boiled eggs per day for 5 years. The cholesterol deposits went away after 1 year vegan.
I guess you ate shitty eggs. I have noticed a huge different between factory produced eggs in contrast to real free range eggs (i.e. the chicken are left all day to graze and go back to their cage in the evening on their own accord). You could eat free range eggs every day and only feel better.
I also do martial arts, been training for over 15 years, 4 years vegan, 3 years on a whole food plant based diet. Good stamina, fast recovery and allot of energy. I can do this for life.
@@CostasAn you haven't described how the majority of hens for "free range" eggs live, check out your local guidelines for details.
Do you believe the free range eggs don't come with cholesterol?
Woohoo!
Veganism is the reason I'm going to uni and study to be a dietitian. I love being vegan.
@Kieran Jones Yup. All the vegans I know are still healthy only because they are buying alien-made vegan food in Area 51.
Kieran Jones tf you mean man made bro it’s plants .. and literally most vegans are doing so well physically so I wouldn’t worry yourself
@@rossbulmer6009 How to get protein without exceeding carbohydrates? and what non-animal food does b12 have? Why do vegans go to the bathroom and make giant shits?
@@jusebacho
1. Literally tons of foods that will allow you to get enough protein without getting tons of carbs
2. B12 used to be abundant in the water we drink and in the vegetables we eat before hygiene was a big thing, right now fortified foods are literally everywhere.
3. I rather have giant shits and not have colorectal cancer than have razor blade shits and actually shit blood while being constipated for days.
Me too😊😊😊😊
Russell brand is awoke AF. He probably thought the interview was trash.
Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bloodmeal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming vegans made it up because they want to moan about something as usual... there are critically vitiams and minerals deficient in a vegan diet particularly vitamins b12 vitiams d iron calcium zinc and riboflavin vegan diets can also increase the risk of vitiams a deficiency.........
@@nevilleoreilly3106 Animals intentionally hath killed in the meat industry eke consume the crops.
For the amount of nutrients thee receiveth from a certain amount of dead animal's meat, that animal hath hadst to consume 101 times more nutrients during its life.
coequal if 't be true crops weren't vegan, eating meat requires 10 times more crops,
so 10 times more crop deaths, and eke all the intentional death for consumption of meat itself.
Ta-Ta and farewell, sir.
Vitamin B12 has been discovered in water lentils this year, and is being studied to farm and extract in commercial quantities currently. So, you'll soon be able to cross that off too.
@@nevilleoreilly3106 its President Trump. Also he pulled out because the deal was unfair.
I will forever love you Mic for making thoughtful and rational arguments against biased and irrational people supporting the death of innocent creatures! Vegan propaganda? How dare vegans try to save human and animal lives through diet shifts and questioning socially constructed habits... people are ridiculous. GO VEGAN!
I have been vegan for about 6 years, I am 5’10, 205lbs and have been training jiujitsu for a decade, ironically I always get a 140lbs guy my same height telling me “what you’re a vegan!? But bro you’re not getting any protein!!!!”, then I whoop their ass because although we may both be brown belts and have similar styles, I have a significant size and strength advantage.
On another ironic note, Joe talks about how a vegan diet is bad for athleticism, yet raves about how the Diaz brothers (who are supposedly his all time favorite MMA fighters) have legendary cardio and of course “world class technique” both of whom are primarily on a 95-99% plant based diet.
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Nate Diaz admitted that he is an "on and off vegan". He eats a lot of fish when he decides he is off the vegan diet.
Rashad Almomani do you have any tips on affordable protein while avoiding meats and eggs? I'm really broke.
@@chrisnash3293 pea protein
chris nash Black beans, brown rice, tofu, spinach, broccoli, nuts, oats, grains, I do a smoothie every day with frozen berries, banana, kale, almond butter, almond milk, coconut water, and Trader Joe’s brand pea protein powder because it’s only like 13$ for a tub. Bro they sell mock meats at Walmart and Target now you can basically buy them anywhere and mock meats on average contain the same amount if not more protein than real meat.
Don’t forget, protein isn’t everything, it’s more about overall nutrition balance, you don’t need much protein to “build muscle”, around .6 -.7 grams per lbs of your body weight, me being between 201-206 I don’t go over 120g of protein a day, more isn’t necessary because I’m not trying to be big, I want to be lean, quick and athletic and heal fast, also, don’t worry about being a purist, you can eat eggs twice a week and fish twice a week or so but I wouldn’t do more than that, try to keep the diet around 90% plant based, meaning if you eat 3 meals a day each month (let’s say you average 100 meals per month) then 10 of those meals can contain either egg or fish or chicken, pescatarian is good, vegetarian is good, it’s just that overconsumption of too much dead animal and animal product that’ll get you....
Find what works for you, what’s affordable and convenient and don’t worry about labels.
Joe “ the chickens are just hanging out” Rogan.
shmokey shmokey what did you shmoke shmokey?
shmokey shmokey U triggered? That’s cute😍
shmokey shmokey you’re so cute you make me to shy to respond😍.
Joe got owned by a vegan at a party once and he's never been the same.
I love how he pulls out all these silly arguments against Russell Brand of all people.. He would never have Greger on and talk that sh--
More the people are opposing, more veganism is working.
And more people are becoming vegan, it's great to see people using their critical thinking :)
@Alexandre Gareau you're right. But on bright side, it has gained more attention in less time which was unexpected.
@Alexandre Gareau Well, thats bc u obvious have limited knowlege on the subject!
@@Food5Thought "it's great to see people using their critical thinking" I don't think it's critical thinking, because you can ask these same "critical thinkers" about another question and they suddenly forget this ability. I doubt a critical thinker would label themselves vegan or carnivore.
Veganism has a 80% failure rate. So 80% of vegans aren't vegans.
He got the epidemiology statement from Chris(one of his guests). He definitely mimics what he’s guests say but only those that agree with him.
Andrew Velez I do remember that! Good point
He was also unable to give Russell a defition of what EPIDEMIOLOGY meant when he was asked! He had to get Jamie to look it up for him!
How looks at least 10 years older than he is. Russell looks just fine!
Brand is nearly a decade younger than Rogan.
Craig Harrison and Russel has led quite the rockstar life too. 😂
"Oh propoganda, those guys again like the Nazis, I remember them" XD I love Russell.
It's OK to kill because they will eventually die anyway. Bro logic.
Not only that, they die more slowly and painfully (ie - naturally) courtesy of good vegan "ethics".
give me a bullet over slow death from cancer any day.
@@SmippeHyrst okay. Send me your address.
Lol nobody will lose sleep over it; not the vegans, not the hunter, not the animal! I have an intimate connection to the animal I kill like my Iroquois ancestors, most urban vegans legit can't even grow a plant, that's the level of connection.
@@withnail-and-i Who the fuck cares about your "intimate connection" with the animal or that you "Kill like your Iriquois ancestors". Not the animal, I can assure you. And what the fuck do either of those things mean anyway? Is that supposed to make killing them better because you are involving some spiritual bullshit with it?
Joe "Vegans are right about a lot of things" Rogan
Red Pill Vegan come on you should have some animal protein, man. You’ll be better XD
Red Pill Vegan - your name has been brought to the attention of bart kay for your slanted videos, so you'll probably be in an upcoming video of his
It's scary how misinformed this guy is. You need to go and have an intellect/logic battle with this killer.
You’re like a vegan hero 😏, if it wasn’t for you Mic I’d be just organic 🙁
I'm super empathetic towards humans that's why i'm a serial killer. It's not like humans live forever so i'm actually doing them a favor...at least they don't die from cancer or something - Rogan's logic.
Mariana Silva Viewing killing animals differently compared to killing humans is speciesism. It’s so sad.
Animals are not humans. Equalling Rogan's logic on hunting with killing humans is so biased it ends up being moronic.
@@CostasAn Yes, I'm biased against the suffering of animals. Call me moronic all you want.
@@MarianaSilva-kh4io Then go wherever carnivores hunt and kill the carnivores. Because in nature, prey animals die horrible deaths, more horrible than any hunter or butcher subjects them to.
@@CostasAn That's why we should kill them first? You are using the same logic Rogan used now...
we love a sassy Mic response packed with FACTS
Packed with vegan funded "FACTS" keep living in lala land, and bowing down to your vegan overlords "cows"
The cows are pulling the strings... They are planning to take over the planet with their numbers and high IQ! Eat friends EAT to survive the cowpacalypse!
@@chavsnaps 🤣
@@chavsnaps so you hate science and empathy.
@@chavsnaps I say this quite respectfully, but unless you can dismiss any of Mic's points with reputable evidence, get outta here 😂
Thanks again for the necessary and well-sourced rebuttal. Keep up the great work. This kind of widespread misinformation and morally-doubtful choices must stop.
Thank You Mic very good work spreading your light !
What light, he's turning the world grey
Do y'all ever have a conversation with someone and 5 seconds in you already know they get all their health info from Joe Rogan
Yeah, like the Anisa Jomha vs Vegan Gains debate
Sadly yes😔
so understanding that veganism leads to vitamin deficiencies is something only Joe Rogan talks about? This is basic science but ok only Joe Rogan apparently know its lol holy shit the stupidity your cult really digs deep into the brainwashing huh
bsktb what vitamin can you not get from plants please educate my brainwashed mind
@@kamryntrammell4580 Retinol(Vitamin A), D3, K2, DHA to just start.... E is not well understood but like everything else YOU NEED FAT TO ABSORB THESE VITAMINS.
For example if you look at leaves or vegan products it will say it's loaded with Vitamin A but it's not it's only a precursor with an extremely low conversion rate. Some people can't convert at all and mostly nobody can when you reach 60+. This is simply the reality. So unless you think taking all these in synthetic forms is the answer(it's not), clearly you NEED animal products to survive.
Veganism is the way to save the planet, animals, and your health.
Because it helps battle against Emotional Constipation and we know that Emotional Constipation is the root of all cognitive imbalance~failure.
@Aurora Borealis !? fascinating, you must employ some synesthesia to hear text, or is it that you are blind and rely on A.I to read text for you?
...I sense your low I.Q and High *Emotional Constipation.*
Lol... Enough said.
Veganism isn’t necessarily healthy though
YeshuaJesusisking V Plenty of junk food is vegan, hence veganism isn’t necessarily healthy.
I saw a good comment today. It made me think. No that isn't something that I can't eat, it's just something I choose not to eat or won't eat.
It's like your beard not even trying to match the rest of your head 😁
Love your videos!
You should eat some animal protein, it comes from plants XD
Jaja
Haha, I 💜 that
And plants get it from soil, so perhaps you'd be willing to go eat that, Hench.
No you fucking idiot it comes from animal flesh
@Jakob S getting killed
Joe "I just learned the word epidemiology" Rogan
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Great job Mic.! Love Joe Rogan but he's very confused/ misled on alot of topics pertaining to nutrition... so sad since he has such a large audience. Keep up the good work debunking! ❤🌱💪
Again, this was super helpful to me =) thank you. you know whats been propaganda for me? everyone in my life and doctors telling me that I will die if I don't eat some red meat because of the anemia I struggle with. That fear for survival kept me in a cognitive dissonance from what I really in my heart felt that I wanted to do, over and over and over again. This just does more to help confirm other research I've been doing and the sheer joy and hope that I experience from that fear falling away. I have watched and been helped by a few of your videos in the last few days, so thank you so much. I know this was a long time ago, but still. Thank you
You really should listen to your body. Honestly I was vegan for over a decade, it's not sustainable and you aren't doing yourself any favours mentally
I was anemic as a child so my parents made me eat liver fried with bacon and onions each week. It was gross. 🤮 As an adult, I’m vegan and I’m no longer anemic because I get my iron from other sources. Ethically I cannot eat anything that has had a face and digestive system.
@@ellerevel4274 Vegan diet is sustainable for the majority of those who have changed over to plant-based food. It's only a few folks who are not able to get enough vitamins, protein and other essential nutrients when they switched from being omnivore. Very few vegans find that their mental health suffers at all when they change over.
Joe Rogan looks so red faced and puffy. Maybe he should lay off the meat. It appears like his blood pressure may be too high.
I was thinking the same thing. He looks ill.
joe's a ticking time bomb....I dont think he'll make it to 60.
@@SuperDodoe Its probably all the exercise and fasted exercise that keeps him alive
Russell asked him that on purpose and I was proud. I'm no vegan but I got irked when he asked Russell to eat meat after giving his speech. He's on TRT so how can he lectuer anyone about health and energy. How can he talk about motivation and discipline when he has an injection helping him. Ugh.
@@MasculineIdeal Pretty much Joe's a hypocritical unethical jackass
Brand looks like a glowing messiah, Rogan looks inflammed.
shmokey shmokey why do you even come here if you hate veganism so much?
hey wheres mcdougal at? anyone seen him lately
Joe Rogan is 51 one years old with a strong good physique and he's trained in fighting.... Russell brand is a thin and has a body of a small child and not forget he's like 8 years younger to..and there's something called genetics to, which vegan community seem to forget about
Have to say, Brand looks great eh!!! Must be the diet and all the working out.
@shmokey shmokey LMAO @ "Mental Illness based diet"... I'm stealing that shit 😂😂
I actually like Joe Rogan, but he seems to not be able to own when he's wrong.
Fun drinking game: take a shot everytime Joe Rogan said 'very rare' in that video.
Russel’s jokes and humor appeared to me like he was being patronizing towards Joe while avoiding being argumentative
Yeah, I know Russell well and that’s exactly what he was doing.
I thought so too. I felt Russel was pandering to Joe, kind of egging him on to expose his ignorance.
Chris Winn I doubt it, he always talks about it
I used to find Joe Rogan entertaining, now all I see is boiled cockmeat/the quintessential Everyman's intellectual. I find it extremely suspect that he reserves his chilled-out acid mode for everything BUT veganism. I am vegan for the animals, my health, AND to piss off Joe Rogan.
@W.A M.P Dude, you're on like, every comment almost. Calm your tits.
@W.A M.P If spilling the blood of 200 million sentient beings a day out of blind ignorance for pure pleasure isn't a death cult, I'm not sure what is. Yes, it is upsetting that the blind followers of cockmeat science pretend that veganism is the cult on account of denial and cognitive dissonance. It is torture watching people back away from denial instead of pushing through it.
Joe’s eating habits are a absolute joke. And it’s hilarious because he actually thinks he’s completely on top of the nutrition game🤣
If the Game Changers movie ever comes out, I wonder what Rogan would have to say about that.
I got my blood tested today. I've been vegan for a little over a year now and I'm stoked to see the results!
You gotta keep us updated now!
@@movement2contact Will do :) They said they should get back to me by tomorrow night with the results
Definitely post the results!
I got mine done 3 weeks ago after being vegan 2 years and all came back perfect apart from my B12 which was too high so my doctor told me to stop supplementing it. 💚💚💚💚
@@sunny_bunches_of_oats8526 any news? we're *all* waiting impatiently :3
Joe Rogan looks 60 years old... nuff said
His face looks puffy and red; doesn't that indicate high blood pressure?
Joe Rogan looks kind of really horrible.....
He’d still beat the fuck outa you
@@IEEteammateMATT1 Doubtful. Low energy. Sad.
He looks about 50
I think Russell handled Joe's remarks well in this episode. I made a little commentary video about him actually
Joe "I just can't wrap my bald head around it" Rogan
Joe “bro science” Rogan.
I have servere allergies to meat, dairy and eggs, if I ate them it would bring out a servere case of "goingagainstmyownmoralcompassiosis"
When you have truely made the connection, Its quite a serious reaction to have
#Ahimsa🕉
I'm not vegan, but I stand by your choice to be vegan. It's your body your choice.
Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bone meal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming vegans made it up because they want to moan about something as usual... there are critically vitiams and minerals deficient in a vegan diet particularly vitamins b12 vitiams d iron calcium zinc and riboflavin vegan diets can also increase the risk of vitiams a deficiency...
@@nevilleoreilly3106 research non toxic eadible mushrooms then come back here and tell me what you find.
@W.A M.P that's a riduculous statement. First things first no one talks about their friends that way, secondly your circle of friends must be all the same if they are all eating like shit and then become "drunks" that quit their jobs blah blah blah.
@W.A M.P scroll up buddy and you will see my first reply to the original comment that clearly states I'm not vegan. Now let me school you in some social science my friend. It's not your job to tell anyone how they should conduct their diet nor should you try and use someones problem as an excuse to descibe what it is that you believe is the right diet. Having said that I suggest you take a deep dark look at your own life and adjust those thoughts that you think are caring and wholesome because outing you friends on YT is not cool.
eat complex carbs. Simple carbs are bad. Complex carbs are excellent. Eat the hell out of them.
whole food plant based diet for the win
Mic, I watch your show almost every night since becoming vegetarian. Not vegan yet but getting there as my cooking improves.
One thing I love about your show is your heavy research usage. Admittedly sometimes it makes it challenging for me to understand, not much of a science background , but slowly understanding it.
If epidemiological studies have no values, then we should all use tobacco again.
That’s not what anyone is saying, at all. But clinical trials are much more powerful and can show causation, whereas epidemiological research cannot. A REALLY SHITTY study such as the “7 nations study” by Ancel keys, not only had no ability to demonstrate causation or direct effect, but Keys CHERRY PICKED the data! There were actually 22 nations, Keys only showed seven to prop up his ridiculous assertions. McGovern railroaded the scientists who objected, said we have no time for science to figure things out. Ever since then, his state has sold massively more grain.
@@Ketoswammy You are acting like Ancel Keys's research was the only research done on saturated fat and heart disease. Moron.
Brian P, although randomized controlled trial is the gold standard, the hierarchy of evidence is not a static scale. Unless you understand the nuances of research data in context, then I shall not argue with you. Also, there are a lot of misunderstandings about research by Ancel Keys, mostly started by a reporter named GarryTaube and perpetuated improperly by a handful of others. I recommend reading counter points by both sides to be more informed.
OK, Uriel Joseph. Then “smoking.” My point still stands.
Jesus Joe really is growing visibly old quickly. He looks 15 years older now than last I saw him(which was last year). Poor guy, hope he quits that keto garbage soon.
Nah...hope eats some more bacon and injects more pig sperm or whatever else he thinks is working for him. He wont be missed...he's no Howard Stern
@@SuperDodoe Howard Stern is an asshole, there is not comparison to what Joe Rogan does.
@shmokey shmokey He's bloated. His face looks puffy and very red(might just be the lighting to be fair). His eyes seem to have sunk in a bit further, the quality of the hanging skin under his eyes also seems a lot darker and wrinklier. The shape of his face seems to have changed too it's a bit shorter and pressed together. Anyway, I was mostly shocked to see him like that, maybe 15 is a bit much... maybe 13-14 years. He looked pretty good last I saw him. Maybe he's just had a lot of colds lately or something to make him temporarily look a lot more tired and bloated...
@shmokey shmokey You are correct. It's a guess on an exact year of the amount I feel he's aged... Glad you picked up that obvious factual truth that nobody has disputed... If I had to guess I'd say he's in his mid 60s but since I know who he is and got a familiarity with his features I'm pretty sure my(as you pointed out) very subjective idea of his age would be colored by that. Thanks for asking me so much about my opinion in this matter though... Why don't you make up your own mind instead? This is not something that I enjoy debating as there are more important factors for well-being than his looks. Honestly I'm baffled that you took the time to answer just for the mere notion that you "disagree with me". Awesome mate! Keep up the good work
Thank you for the video and all the references!
Such an informative good video, keep crushing it Mic!
Joe looks just like my dad... red, swollen, with insanely high blood pressure. 😅 Juuuuuust saying. Maybe he needs to tone down on the meat, at least. 👌🏻
Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bone meal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming vegans made it up because they want to moan about something as usual.. there are critically vitiams and minerals deficient in a vegan diet particularly vitamins b12 vitiams d iron calcium zinc and riboflavin vegan diets can also increase the risk of vitiams a deficiency. ..
@@nevilleoreilly3106 One we only use animal waste for fertilizer just cause there's so much of it. Two that's why there's supplements. Clearly you haven't heard of them.
@@nevilleoreilly3106 moron
You have no clue about diet and nutrition if you think meat is unhealthy. Have you seen Joe workout? The man is in excellent shape.
I would quess that your father was not "swollen" chos of muscle tho...
This guy is 52. Haven't seen every older vegan in TH-cam, but those who I have seen look like skinny grandpa's...
Yea I have an ultra rare condition called Empathy. No cure. Potentially contagious.🏩
Not contagious at all. I've worked in a slaughterhouse killing thousands of animals a day, and I never enjoyed anything more. There is no rush quite like that you get when you pull a chicken through the cone and cut its throat. It's dope, man. Every time I think about it, I go out and by a pack of chicken. :)
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Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bone meal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible.... Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming vegans made it up because they want to moan about something as usual... there are critically vitiams and minerals deficient in a vegan diet particularly vitamins b12 vitiams d iron calcium zinc and riboflavin vegan diets can also increase the risk of vitiams a deficiency...
Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bone meal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its impossible Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming vegans made it up because they want to moan about something as usual......
neville oreilly are you really this stupid? what did you gain from commenting this? LMAO don’t watch vegan videos if you don’t like them, they weren’t made for you! you seem like you have a weird obsession with sitting online and yelling at people. I suggest finding a hobby or hugging your mom.
Brilliant - funny, to the point and absolutely genius comparisons. Thanks Mic!
great video- thanks for all your good work !
I’ve lost count of how many times Joe Rogan bro science has been used to discredit my vegan arguments. I suffer through his show just so I’m ready for it. It’s sad and scary because seemingly intelligent people I know take what he says as gospel with zero evidence. I can’t imagine how many millions he is influencing. Thanks Mic!
Clint Sevilla I try not to silo myself into groups of people that only agree with me and many people have listened which makes all those other conversations worth it.
He feels guilty for what he's doing and therefore is justifying himself to soothe his conscience.
Thanks for doing this, the whole channel. It's awesome. It helps me day by day, just maintain, answer all my pressing questions, help me out with my vitamin deficiencies (in the past, not that I have any now). Seriously helpful. Right up there with the Braggs, thanks.
I appreciate how you source all of your studies
Mic the Vegan is the hero we need 💜
Rogan is extremely dishonest when it comes to veganism. But even on politics, he completely changes his views based on who he has on. He just goes with whatever is most beneficial to him and lying about veganism is profitable these days.
I think he's just not very bright and likes to say whatever comes to mind without putting much thought or research into these topics. "A buddy of mine" is his usual reference point for just about anything he believes to be true. Sadly, a lot of people are extremely gullible and believe it too.
Nikolay G except he generally puts a lot of thought into things. Ever stopped to think he’s already thought about it and formed is own opinions on it? He has a fucking sensory deprivation tank and is a massive proponent of yoga including meditative yoga. No of course he only just heard of this now and didn’t think at all 🤦♂️🤦♂️ and his “buddies” are usually very well established doctors, professors and public figures.
@@imagikarp8979 You've been bamboozled, mate. The vast majority of people who he has on the show and like to speak out against a plant-based diet (the healthiest diet that we currently have, backed up by science) are not actual doctors. He just likes to present them as "experts" on the topic of health but if you looked up their names on your own, you'll find out that most (if not all? i'm not 100% sure because I don't follow every podcast) don't have any real credentials. The worst one which I can think of off the top of my head is Shawn Baker who had his license revoked due to incompetence (www.nmmb.state.nm.us/docs/board_actions/07-01-17%20thru%2009-30-17.pdf ). He also stated that his back started hurting because he ate apples... Of course Joe Rogan loves to bash vegans so he lapped it all up like the dumbass that he is without doing any research on his own because it wouldn't fit his agenda.
@shmokey shmokey Your house is irrelevant, you are irrelevant. Joe has built a base of meathead hunters and mma fans who buy his brain powered supplement bullshit products, so yes, he is appealing to them, and that ideology, you fickle turd.
Nikolay G haven’t been bamboozled by anything. I’m very capable of researching independently and I don’t have to subscribe to anyone’s ideologies or agendas. To the amazement of vegans, people including myself are capable of watching and listening to something without being “brainwashed”. I lead my life by curiosity and I keep my mind open. Obviously not everyone has the credentials that’s other may have or you may want, and some are just outright bullshit (usually very easy to tell) but to try and claim that everyone he has on isn’t is completely ridiculous.
Thanks Mic. great video.
Many thanks, Mic, for the excellent survey and summaries of scientific papers and research showing the astonishing advantages of veganism over any form of other diet, including lacto-ovo-vegetarianism, even after adjusting for race and religion (e.g, the studies among Adventists, who are overall one of the healthiest sub-populations to begin with).
Joe Rogan feels healthy because he's on steroids. He's literally geared up
@Obi-Wan Kenobi Joe Rogan has said that he's taking exogenous testosterone that's a steroid Joe Rogan's mouth is my proof plus he's taking T3 or T4 thyroid and HGH. This is a pretty good little cycle an awful lot of high-level bodybuilders would be happy to use. I would not doubt if he is using others but chose only to name the ones that can be legally given a prescription for. How great would he feel if he came off cycle for a year? And what about all the other stuff he's doing like injecting red blood cells cryotherapy and who the hell knows what else.
Actually Obi-Wan Kenobi I think he admits to taking all three of those drugs in this clip that's on mic the vegans Channel
Obi-Wan Kenobi now actually that I think about it is his way of eating is so healthy optimal for performance and athleticism why does he need all that gear? The thyroid medicine which is either T3 T4 or a combination it's kind of a risky drug to use especially for aesthetic reasons even a lot of enhance bodybuilders don't touch it
@@superveganwhat I'm considering looking into testosterone therapy or steroids of some kind to motivate me to exercise.
I lost 40 kilos and am not as strong as I once was.
Tell me why I shouldn't.
I feel like more testosterone would make me more dominant in how I interact and possibly get me better financial benefits. Also women. And I find myself in a bit of a slump. Depression... anxiety.... garbled thoughts...
@@jamesparker223 well I'm not really going to tell you not to take testosterone or steroids or any other drug. I will say this however I've seen this go wrong many times but even that would not make me tell you not to. it's totally up to you. I would just tell you not to give too much credit or weight to a your diet if you're making gains through artificial enhancement. I will say this though. You will no longer be you you will somebody else plus a bottle of testosterone your decisions you make will be different your personality will be different. It will affect your relationships maybe they're important to you maybe not. Basically this changes you even more typical party drugs. This is a hormone this directly changes you and besides once you come off you will lose the gains and it'll be even harder to make them in the future. The doctor will tell you that's why you come off and on or take HCG or some shit like that but the before-and-after speak for themselves nothing's for free and you will pay for it in the long run. I've had basically almost straight edge friends who did well in school and work also well with women very responsible went out partying only would drink one drink and then say that's it. But then after a few years on gear they became raging alcoholics with serious addictions to Xanax oxy cocaine and even meth. I saw the whole evolution. You know when you see somebody that you used to be jealous of and then jealousy turns to pity. Not saying that would happen to you but it does seem to happen a lot especially if you are searching it out rather than a doctor saying you need to take it because of some bone loss muscle wasting through a disease like cancer or AIDS or whatever. But I'm definitely not going to tell you not to I would never tell anyone not to do something with their own body
GoVegan! Hi from México! I'm a big, big fan. You are awesome!
Fucking nightmare to be vegan in Mexico, too much macho culture and not enough vegan substitutes. Let's hope that changes soon mi hermano
@@sebastianmosca5985 It's not that bad. Hahahaha. It's way cheaper. In my city (San Luis Potosí) we have an H.e.B. It's dope lol.
It has vegan options too.
Gracias, my hermanoooo
@@sebastianmosca5985 And the macho culture is gooooing dooooooown.
@@carlosernestogutierrezvazq9051 vegan guys have more testosterone naturally anyway
thank you Mic, your awesome
How do you know someone's a meat eater? They'll tell you.