I know this video was like months late on the internet timescale but I had to chime in and Patrik Baboumian deserves to be recognized for his long career of kicking butt.
@Matt Bond Patrik's squat is about the same as Robert. Yet you say Patrik is nothing amazing but Robert is a beast? The kind of bullshit comparison that invalidates you
I think Joe is interested if veganism can work. You see so many people try and fail. Maybe someone really has done it. Who wouldn't want to switch to a better diet if it is possible? Part of what makes MMA fighters and comedians successful is seeing what works and adapting it. No matter how strange it is.
@@SNinjaQK Ya I love vegan gains. Despite not being convinced about many of his arguments. I still like his style of videos. He is fun to listen to. I wish him the best. I kinda wish he try balanced diet and compare.
The tone of the way Joe says "so it's bullshit" is so telling. Not a open minded question, just a very leading statment trying to get Robert to easily agree that it's bullshit
@linus eisele Because Joe will believe anything that puts veganism in a bad light. Also, I did just write I consider myself to be a pretty undistinguished physicist, was like that when I first started uni as a meat eater and I'm still this way now as a vegan. There's no such thing as eating your way in or out of mediocrity.
I don't think there is any kind of correlation between calories and smarts, otherwise I would have published many more papers than a few measly conference proceedings with my BMI. How on earth do you think a math competition can be carried out between anonymous internet avatars?
I guess I just don't understand why he takes it so personal. It's not hurting or affecting him in ANY way, so why does he care? Oh wait... he's sponsored by bone broth...
That's not it, Joe is a true believer. He stopped buying meat for ethical reasons and you should hear him justify his hunting practice to still be able to eat meat without relying on factory farming. He actually believes the garbage he spews. As Mic said, it's at least in part confirmation bias. He wants to be reassured that he is doing the right thing because he is morally conflicted with his own stance and this constant reaffirmation of "meat is not simply good for us, it is a necessity to achieve any kind of extraordinary physical capabilities" is helping him cope with his ethical dilemma. He is north of 50 years old, his generation had it drilled deep into their heads that consuming meat is good, necessary, manly even, it's the kind of thinking that has spawned the keto diet in the first place, which he follows, taking a false premise and going from there, blaming literally everything else but meat for health issues.
@@sergs1557 That's complete nonsense. He "stopped buying meat for ethical reasons" yet with half his guests they talk about going to get steak after the podcast and that is AFTER he claimed to care about what happens to these animals in factory farms. Those animals in those restaurants literally come from factory farms, so does he or does he not care? My advice: stop sucking up to him pretending he gives a shit. It's literal lip service. I can guarantee you the only reason he doesn't want to eat factory farmed animals isn't because of ethics, it's because he see's them as unhealthy.
@@gallectee6032 I haven't sucked up to anybody, I don't know where you got that ridiculous idea from, certainly not from what I wrote. There are restaurants which offer grass fed meat and the majority of his meat comes from hunting. I am neither justifying any of this, nor am I saying he is right to do what he does. When it comes to nutrition and politics, Joe Rogan is a moron. And you can clearly see it bothers him more than most people how animals are treated, not enough to make him go vegan or vegetarian, which isn't that much better than eating meat but still, but he goes out of his way to justify his diet and hunting, which he wouldn't be bothered to do if he didn't care on some level. We'll see, Gamechangers has a release date now, effing finally, when he sees it maybe he will at least try to go vegan.
I totally respect Patrik, he is such an awesome guy, he has integrity smarts, beauty, compassion, real strength and he is also a Cancer, never mess with a Cancer!
Non vegans get upset because they want good news about their bad habits but there's no good news because the evidence that a vegan whole plants foods based diet is better for your health is increasing daily. The evidence that a non vegan diet is bad for your health is also increasing and they know because of that their on the wrong side because the evidence of a non vegan diet on the planet and how they are contributing to it is also increasing and they feel guilty about that.
no one is upset when someone is vegan, unless when they try to impose their belief on you, by emotional manipulation, fear mongering, threat to destroy the actual food system and being condecending like this soy boy Mic.
misaki stalker uh no. Literally just asking if a restaurant has vegan options or if something can not have cheese on top gives you the nastiest responses. I asked for a vegetarian pizza without cheese.. “Why? Are you vegan?” “Well...yes.” “Why don’t you just eat the grass outside?!” Honestly, shit like this, the eye-rolls, the you-think-you’re-better-everyones, come from nothing and nowhere, even when you don’t say you’re vegan, they just happen to ask. And constantly. And from loved ones, when you don’t even have to mention it anymore. It’s completely disgusting.
David de Hilster - almost to vegan. Apparently he still eats fish sometimes, but pretty damn close. And don't forget about the women's tennis. They have tough vegan female tennis players.
@@jeremycarter2875 he is know to eat traditional Serbian foods when he visits our country which he does regularly and often , our traditional food include pork meat and allot of dairy products.
@@jeremycarter2875 I am just saying bro those are facts , it is in every newspaper because we are very proud of him , so the news report everything he does so we as a nation kinda know all what he does that being said he said many times that he has a predominately plant diet but consumes animal products also.
For Joe's next video he will be talking about his heart attack and how it really wasn't a heart attack and how it really isn't a big deal and how it really has nothing to do with his diet.
Meat alone doesn’t cause heart attacks you dummy. It’s when you follow meat with gross amounts of refined sugar like soda and all that other processed crap that causes adverse effects. Cholesterol itself is not what clogs arteries.
@@garymichael8591 who's having all the heart attacks ? You guessed it . Meat eaters . Who's living longer lives without heart attacks? Omg you're so smart you guessed it again! Vegans
He is on hormone replacement therapy because his testosterone levels are too low. His own diet is turning him into a bitch and he still can't get how stupid keto is.
@@sergs1557 yeah I heard about that and it is true. I thought because of prior roid use that his own ability to crank out T was shut down so he was forced to inject T. Oh my goodness keto is just about the most unhealthy and stupidest diet around.
@@lateral-alice yes for real and he knows how meat gets its b12, he knows but he is such a sellout. Non vegans supplement b12 too. Oh yes. rogan is an amoral man.
It's amazing how many people mistakenly equate bodybuilding physiques (and that type of appearance in general) and overall strength with health. I was obsessed with the bodybuilding thing in my younger years but as I got older switched to being overall more athletic. It's a way healthier lifestyle, and that's what really matters. The other stuff is just aesthetic and mostly non-functional in the real world.
Bodybuilding and strongman aren't the same, bodybuilding is about physique, strongman is about physical strength, almost every strongman has big muscle muscles and a thick layer of fat on top of those muscles.
@@HammerheadGuitar Yeah, I realize that; never implied that they are the same. Neither are particularly healthy though, that's my point. Yet many people see some dude on a bodybuilding cover and immediately think they are "healthy".
@@veganfortheanimals6994 Than I misread your comment. But yeah I agree, being overweight is unhealthy wether it's fat or muscle and next to that pushing your body to the limit on a daily basis puts a lot of stress on your body.
@linus eisele I can prove that you have a toddler's comprehension of math at best since you believe that eternity is a number. Your next carnist dolt comment is........
@linus eisele I know carnists like you are deeply triggered by Facts and Logic....ergo your comments are proof of this. Tell me again how you believe eternity is a number?
@Citizenthirteen yes and some will say that Gorillas sometimes eat insects and such. That is an outright lie, but even if that is the case, have you seen the teeth on a Gorilla. They have the teeth of an omnivore but eat plants.
@Citizenthirteen actually, they eat like 99% plants. Gorillas and other closely related primates to us tend to be opportunistic omnivores, as we have also evolved to be. This means that they can eat other things when there is scarcity of succulent, tender plant foods that are optimal for consumption, such as insects, eggs and even meat. Gorillas will eat insects when the only plant foods around are highly fibrous, tough and calorically low.
Thank you for bringing up Kendrick Farris too. So many people hold the stereotype that vegans are frail and weak, I love seeing the strongest of us proving everyone wrong with literal world records.
@Matt Bond I mean we just covered this in the video if you actually watched it, Patrik deadlifted 800 official while Robert hit 750 official. If you want to go off of backyard unsanctioned PRs, be my guest, but Robert should change his narrative if that's the case.
@Matt Bond Patrik - 360kg (794lb) Deadlift (1 Rep) Robert - 340kg (750lb) Deadlift (4 reps) If you don't know the difference 44 pounds makes on a lift, you clearly don't lift. If you want to argue on this channel, you're going to have to bring facts. Does it make you uncomfortable that a vegan has a higher sanctioned 1RM than an omnivore? What are you trying to prove here exactly? Maybe Robert should suck it up and pull a 795 in competition if he wants to talk trash. Let's not forget that 0.5% of U.S. citizens are vegan.
@Matt Bond Wow! Those are incredible numbers! It makes me happy to see vegans like you lifting such massive weight, as it really goes a long way to combat the stereotype that vegans can't be strong. Well done!
Hey Mic, I just wanted to say Thank you so much for your work and for who you are. Your channel is unique and delightful. I've just become one of your proud Patreons because it is really the least I can do to thank you. Your work is one of the main reasons I became a whole food vegan and I am just loving it. You might have saved my life. Keep up your amazing work. Ps: you crack me up every time :D
Look, I'm no strong man but i go to a pretty intense group training. And not only am i one of the oldest, I'm also the only plant based person. I can tell you right now, on a regular basis I'm out performing both men and women in my class!
I find Joe Rogan a lazy interviewer. For the most part, he is just BSing his way through the interview with a few facts and then a lot about him and his opinion and experiences. I don't get the appeal. When you listen to interviews with his guest by better interviewers, you can really learn something about that person, their thinking, and experiences. Not so with Joe.
TWROC96 My point is that it’s a conversation, so he shouldn’t come prepared with a bunch of facts to ‘interview’ the guest. That’s why he’s there. To have a conversation and discover stuff along the way.
I mean, honestly, sounds like both Rogan and Oberst don't know much of the nutrition regarding what it is to be... well, any kind of muscle-building athlete even as amateurs. Setting aside the steroids discussion, all you really need is to work out in a certain way and eat more calories and more protein than the average person to build that kind of muscle. Is it trickier to have a vegan diet and be a strongman or even just a skilled casual athlete of any kind? I suppose, but there are plenty of meat eaters who can't even grasp that a lot of their gains happen in the kitchen and not in any gym just addressing something as simple as weight loss and not something much more intensive than that. If anything, I would make the argument that most vegans actually are more likely to succeed in athletics as they already have a better understanding of their own nutrition and food intake than a lot of people who eat meat.
Eat more calories is a myth for gaining muscle. Lactic acid causes muscle expansion after healing, and you definitely dont need 6000 calories to heal if you train a certain way (singles at 70%) that being said, you cant thrive off of vegan diet, where as you CAN a meat only diet but also cut ten years off your life as well. If you eat vegan 70% of the time and eat some fish, small portions of red meat, you will thrive. Especially when you eat meat to repair lol sad but true. We need it all.
@@joe06051989 have you ever had doms? Thats an over exposure to lactic acid, and low glucose stores in the muscle. Protein and carbohydrates work together to move water, amino acids, and glucose to your damaged muscle. This is why doms is bad. It makes muscle deflate. Obviously NOT if your a beginner. But a beginner constantly feeling doms every week is a bad thing. Its to much to text in here, but this is what ive been taught. Check out john meadows. Hes on gear but is very knowledgeable.
All strongmen take steroids. It doesn't matter what your diet is if you take copious amounts of steroids. They always forget to mention this part of their diet.
Great video! Just one clarification: Bodybuilding and strongman aren’t the same thing. But I’m sure strongmen also don’t have great life expectancy either!
Yup, body builders want to look their best, whereas looking at Robert here it's pretty clear that is not the goal. He is strong, but looks like the offspring of Madame Butterfly and the Michelin man.
@@sergs1557 I don't know about "looking their best", it's still about adding as much mass as possible, but they have to consider symmetry and be "lean", not fatty.
@@aironuyan65 yes, I know, it isn't to "look their best" as that would probably be several lbs smaller. It's about looking HUGE not necessarily good. Competitively they moved away from more aesthetic towards more mass after Frank Zane and the like.
elines acevedo isn’t the reason they ran their bodies to highlight the aesthetic of their muscles in bodybuilding? I mean most those guys are huge, but from what I’ve read and seen it’s entirely about look.
Okay imma say it.....Robert Oberest just told the truth. Aint nobody taking away from dude and his accomplishments BUT, the point is he never got 'Invited' to WSM competitions, which means meat might be a real factor. Because even though Robert hasnt won it, ONLY the STRONGEST MEN IN THE WORLD get invited. JUST SAYIN, he can be the world strongest vegan lifter, fine.
Awesome video! 👍 Joe Rogan has a guilty conscience period. Deep down he knows eating animals is wrong. Who knows, maybe someday he'll come over to our side.....
Uhhh he dosnt actually promote the factory killing of animals or anything like that he hunts them which is a good thing or certain animals will become to overly populated and will hurt the ecosystem really bad which then will effect us
@@ffgggkok yeah if people quit hunting, the eco system will change so drastically that'll we'll all start dying because it affects us much . You fucking idiot
@@johnnyroe8053 You would be surprised how many so called "reasonable and intelligent" people are morons by mine or your standards. As with everything.
When it comes to athletics, there’s nature and there’s nurture. You can have the best diet, an elite body fat %, the best training program, and the perfect amount of rest. You can have all that and still lose to someone with better genetics. Robert Oberst has great strength genes. Same with his buddy Eddie Hall. Eddie literally has identified a gene set that allows him to endure strenuous exercise for super physiological periods of time. So it’s pretty rare that someone like Robert Oberst exists in the first place. He is 0.00001% of the population, so to speak. Expecting to find someone with that rare a genetic makeup, someone who is willing to eat those excessive quantities of calories, and put in all those hours of training - and also be vegan - I think it’s asking a lot. But we did find someone pretty close to that in Patrik Baboumian. For his weight-class he is the elite of the elite. So all he had to do was break the ice and show that vegans can compete at the highest level, which he obviously did.
Not only do I think Joe is more curious about veganism than he wants to admit. But I honestly think he just does this for the attention. All the Keto/paleo people will love it, the people that hate vegans just to hate them will love it, and vegans will tune in so they can tear him apart. So much attention!
Unlike Patrik, Robert is a classified pro strongman and has placed in the finals of WSM, that literally makes him one of the worlds strongest men. Patrik does deserve some credit for winning the German nationals, But Patrik does not even compete on the same tier a Robert oberst. Therefore you can not compare there strongman careers in this way. I am not saying that vegan or non-vegan is better I am merely pointing out the flaws in your argument so that you can hopefully come up with a better one.
You're just wrong. Patrick was european powerlifting champion FOR HIS WEIGHT RANGE, amongst other great achievements, Robert is way taller than him so of course Patrick isn't going to compete for world's strongest man but he was the best out of 700 million people, how is he any less of an athlete as Robert?
Marco Frank because he can’t even compete in wsm... not only will they not invite him but he literally can’t even be there because he won’t survive it. Patric can only front squat a 90 kg for like 4 reps when he went against faceless. They do double those for reps in wsm warmups? He also could only squat a 340 kg twice dude. They do 325 and 360 kg for reps in wsm
"... against 0 competitions won". Yes, well, Robert Oberst might not have won anything, but he did make it into the WSM finals, meaning he is amongst the 10 strongest men on the planet. Just saying.
You forgot to say that Robert is 6 years younger, 60 kilos heavier when you said that Patrik can lift more than his official best despite being 30 centimeters smaller.. just to add insult to injury.. Also Patrik looks Robert's age and Robert looks Patrik's age
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 well Robert hasn't been there for the past 6 years.. not only he doesn't compete in WSM anymore but he hasn't won anything in his career.. Patrik has won titles. He never won world championship but at least he was able to win a european championship..
Renard Dubois Patrick was wrong Robert holds the American record for the log lift Patrick only holds off brand records not in the Arnold classic or WSM so they aren't really as credible
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 Patrik is 5'7". He's never going to be a contender for WSM. You have to be a genetic outlier to compete in that competition. Patrik is incredibly strong for his size.
That really would be an extraordinary argument against veganism...'I don't want to be vegan because I could only lift the equivalent of a small car, and I need to be able to lift a little more than that'.
But the thing you have to remember about Rogen, is, he likes meat, and he appreciates a dark moment in hunting. So that makes it okay to do this. And isn't it weird how they just try their hardest to down play it, almost as if they are threatened in some way.
Another huge factor that affects the comparison of their PRs is the number of reps. If Patrik’s was a triple at 800, his one rep max would be higher than that.
I think you're dead right. Joe 'Martial Arts/Hunter' Rogan is fighting against his closet vegan. He knows he's wrong. He loves animals and yet he thinks he needs to eat them for strength, so he has to invent and support reasons to do so. That guy has been talking about vegans since he had hair; I've heard the stand up bits. He doesn't have to down veganism, no one asks about it, but he keeps talking about it. That and martial arts and that he's a hunter now. He talks about that stuff a lot. 😂😂
Rogan does a lot overcompensating with his interest in those primal ‘ultra masculine’ pursuits like MMA & thrill-killing of animals & has often expressed butch & even sexist attitudes towards women. It’s made me question that he might be deep in the closet about something, but veganism wasnt the first thing that sprang to my mind. lol
Joe is an insecure coward, truth be told. He talks about hunting and eating meat to compensate for his deep insecurities. Funny, though, I've never viewed hinting as manly.. To the contrary, it's more of an activity for those terrified of a true challenge.
Bradley Smith ever thought he just liked to this sort of shit? This comment section sure has a lot of insight into Rogan for never meeting and talking to the guy. I mean maybe you shit talk joe Rogan because you are jealous? The guy isn’t smart, but he at least seems to love his life and what he does.
Because he represents a lot of “bros” in search of themselves. But it’s like trying to use a hammer instead of a compass to find your way. The hammer may look tough, just does not lead you anywhere.
Becuase for the most part he is right and very good with facts. He isnt a liar bc he got one thing on a podcast wrong,vegans lie about him all the time does that mean there assholes or cucks n shit like this is redi
@Sergey Nikitin He is careful not to call himself "vegan" on the news, but he doesn't consume any animal products nor does he wear animal products. Sure technically plant-based means whole plant foods (so no potato chips for example because they are processed) but fundamentally he is vegan, at least by my definition. You are free to disagree but he doesn't consume or wear animal products - vegan in my books. :)
At 4:40 he sets the yoke down which in a real strongman contest would end the event. And that yoke is lighter than the first round yokes at the Arnold classic.
I do feel that Joe has a personal responsibility with the amount of people that he does have following him to put out correct information when he is talking about other people that are not invited to his show. otherwise he is setting himself up for a gigantic lawsuit and I would encourage anyone to do it at this point! it is definitely slander!
Hey Mic what database do you use to find the scientific articles and studies ? What kind of things do you search ? I tried using google scholar and quickly got overwhelmed ha ha ...
This is also another example of how Joe and people to share his viewpoint try to make veganism about everything that it's not. Veganism is about ethics, be it in relation to animals and/or the environment, but the man doesn't want to compute that people might actually make choices that aren't entirely selfish. Apart from him spreading misinformation about Patrick, to anyone who does not aspire to be a strongman, why does it matter wether you can lift 672 or 800 pounds on a vegan diet? And to those who do, I am pretty sure they are not gonna look to Joe's Podcast as an authority on the subject. Yet, it perpetuates the image of feeling weak when on a vegan diet to people who might not have ever lifted before, but suddenly feel like it applies to them. Even if what he was saying was true, which it is obviously not, an average person, the ones most of the world's population is consists of can live a long and healthy vegan life. But then again, he is one extra special Joe and extra special Joe has habits to justify.
Awesome video! Officially vegan after the hoe rogan controversy, and studying the science behind the movement. As a life long joe rogan fan I was extremely disappointed in his arrogance and disrespect towards the matter.
Thanks Mic for the informative video. Just wish as many people that were influenced by Rogan's video knew the truth. What is it with Joe Rogan and vegans? 🤣
Robert lifted 800 pounds not 750 and he lifted it four times, not three and you also try to correlate a four rep set with another man's known best single. You are as deceptive as Rogan after calling him out for it. As a neutral observer, you have lost all credibility with me. BTW the best strength athletes in the World, like Robert, compete in an event called the World's Strongest Man, not the German Open. How many times has Patrick qualified for this event?
@@robertallan6373 ive been working on a meta analysis about veganism covering hundreds of peer reviewed papers ... that doesnt sound like bias. Personal opinions are more likely to be bias?
@@therobinson5451 For me personally its first hand observation, I was in the Seventh Day Adventist church for many years, the church is known for keeping a healthy diet, they own Sanitarium. through all those years I have seen many who kept the vegetarian diet which seemed to be very beneficial for a healthy way of living, I also have seen those who were vegans which did not seem as healthy as the vegetarian diet. Those who had health problems seem to be more vegans than the vegetarians, also the vegans didn't seem to look as healthy, they were underweight and just didn't look as good as the vegetarians, these were people who have been on these diets for many years, not just out of the blue like many today. It can takes many years before certain health probables arise, the craze on the vegan diet sweeping the world has only been around for not so many years, young people who are on this diet do look great, simply because they are still young, but I believe down the track this will change for the worse.
Have you seen his diet? 8 scoops of protein powder.. Processed sausages... A plate of chips. A ton of different supplements. Processed greens powder.. He drank his 'meals'.. You honestly can't say Patrick bouboumians diet is healthy.. If the diet was so good then why is he using a TON of extracted protein and a ton of supplements?
mindshotjon Yet he brings it up and tries to put down veganism any chance he gets 😂 if he didn’t feel his lifestyle was threatened then he wouldn’t care to even bring it up at all.
I don’t think Joe is “threatened” by people who eat veggies. Ooooo sooo scary. He’s talking about what’s a good diet chill. Joe just wants to know what’s up for these athletes.
CollapseAirsoftTeam Again... if he’s not feeling a little threatened then why does he take every chance he can get on his show to try to put down veganism? He literally did not have to bring up a vegan diet but he did. And he just had to bring up Patrick. Joe is obsessed with talking about vegans and obsessively tries to debunk veganism. I think he’s the one that needs to chill. Lol
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How do you know someone is vegan? Don't worry, Joe will bring it up no matter the context xD
lol, so true!
lool someone on the oberst video said Joe talks about vegans more than vegans talk about themselves and it's so true
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@@SimonC021 it's so damned true.
Joe's got OCD when it comes to vegans.
I know this video was like months late on the internet timescale but I had to chime in and Patrik Baboumian deserves to be recognized for his long career of kicking butt.
Matt Bond
If you’re gonna convince anyone here, you might wanna try directly taking on the points Mic the Vegan makes
Mic, Thank you for doing this video!
@Matt Bond Patrik's squat is about the same as Robert. Yet you say Patrik is nothing amazing but Robert is a beast? The kind of bullshit comparison that invalidates you
you should do an interview show...kill all these hacks like rogan with real science and level headed discourse
Dino S lol.. good luck on that..
When you can't find anything negative about someone to say then just make up stories....Joe Rogen style
exactly Joe is an asshole
What do you expect from a guy that loves Alex Jones? 😂
Yep, he's an air head.
@@MrAngrybaldguy yeah, considering what kind of lies Jones tells, I find it interesting Rogan still loves him.
Joe's closeted. If he were ever to be honest with himself and his audience he wouldnt have much of life or show. another liar for all the suckers
Oh Joe... Just hurry up and go vegan already. You know you want to. We ALL know you want to.
Ikr?
HilJoy Don’t know much about Joe do you?
Hahahahaha 😂 this!
Like a trope of a closeted man who keeps bringing up and making fun a guy he clearly has a crush on. Joe and veganism: a missed love connection?
joe's cognitive dissonance in addition to his consuming steroids will eventually kill him earlier than later.
Joe *does* talk about vegans all the time. He talks about veganism in public more than vegans do.
he needs to have earthling ed on to put all the bs to rest haha
earthling ed would blow his mind
Earthling ed + mic the vegan vs. any two meat eaters on the planet. That would be epic asf
Joe and piers Morgan vs earthling ed and mic the vegan
I think Joe is interested if veganism can work. You see so many people try and fail. Maybe someone really has done it. Who wouldn't want to switch to a better diet if it is possible?
Part of what makes MMA fighters and comedians successful is seeing what works and adapting it. No matter how strange it is.
you make the best response videos dude!
King OfTheUniverse you can say that again!
Mic is my favorite vegan youtuber he does it very well.
vegan gains does
@@SNinjaQK Ya I love vegan gains. Despite not being convinced about many of his arguments. I still like his style of videos. He is fun to listen to. I wish him the best. I kinda wish he try balanced diet and compare.
Mic is the strongest man in the world!
I feel like Joe probably just got rejected by a really hot vegan babe once.
Mystery. Solved.
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@@chvjdvpa3746 are you a massive bigot?
Agree , since then he had a severe case of butthurt whenever vegan's are mentioned 😂
*slow claps* yes. You have solved it.
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Brofessor Joe Rogan is talking about vegans again? Why am I not surprised.
hahah:)))
Brofessor ahahhahaha this is great
Brofessor Joe "blow hard" rogan
brofessor 😂😂😂😂
Brofessor 😁👍
The tone of the way Joe says "so it's bullshit" is so telling. Not a open minded question, just a very leading statment trying to get Robert to easily agree that it's bullshit
good point, and so true
So true
Brainwashing 101
I'm a vegan physicist and I like your T-shirt.
I bought one very much like it at the USS Intrepid museum in NYC. The only difference being mine has “Rocket Scientist” on it.
I'm one as well. But the top looks very far off from where I'm standing. Joe probably thinks it's because I don't eat bacon.
@linus eisele Because Joe will believe anything that puts veganism in a bad light. Also, I did just write I consider myself to be a pretty undistinguished physicist, was like that when I first started uni as a meat eater and I'm still this way now as a vegan. There's no such thing as eating your way in or out of mediocrity.
Vegan chemist here... But yeah... Now a journalist cos sexism 😅
I don't think there is any kind of correlation between calories and smarts, otherwise I would have published many more papers than a few measly conference proceedings with my BMI. How on earth do you think a math competition can be carried out between anonymous internet avatars?
I guess I just don't understand why he takes it so personal. It's not hurting or affecting him in ANY way, so why does he care? Oh wait... he's sponsored by bone broth...
Rei Zak
So Rogan makes money by promoting non-vegan products...is anyone still wondering why he’s a vocal anti-vegan?
That's not it, Joe is a true believer. He stopped buying meat for ethical reasons and you should hear him justify his hunting practice to still be able to eat meat without relying on factory farming. He actually believes the garbage he spews.
As Mic said, it's at least in part confirmation bias. He wants to be reassured that he is doing the right thing because he is morally conflicted with his own stance and this constant reaffirmation of "meat is not simply good for us, it is a necessity to achieve any kind of extraordinary physical capabilities" is helping him cope with his ethical dilemma.
He is north of 50 years old, his generation had it drilled deep into their heads that consuming meat is good, necessary, manly even, it's the kind of thinking that has spawned the keto diet in the first place, which he follows, taking a false premise and going from there, blaming literally everything else but meat for health issues.
It's probably because of people like Mic who have made videos saying that meat should be highly taxed or prohibited.
@@sergs1557 That's complete nonsense. He "stopped buying meat for ethical reasons" yet with half his guests they talk about going to get steak after the podcast and that is AFTER he claimed to care about what happens to these animals in factory farms. Those animals in those restaurants literally come from factory farms, so does he or does he not care? My advice: stop sucking up to him pretending he gives a shit. It's literal lip service.
I can guarantee you the only reason he doesn't want to eat factory farmed animals isn't because of ethics, it's because he see's them as unhealthy.
@@gallectee6032 I haven't sucked up to anybody, I don't know where you got that ridiculous idea from, certainly not from what I wrote.
There are restaurants which offer grass fed meat and the majority of his meat comes from hunting. I am neither justifying any of this, nor am I saying he is right to do what he does. When it comes to nutrition and politics, Joe Rogan is a moron. And you can clearly see it bothers him more than most people how animals are treated, not enough to make him go vegan or vegetarian, which isn't that much better than eating meat but still, but he goes out of his way to justify his diet and hunting, which he wouldn't be bothered to do if he didn't care on some level.
We'll see, Gamechangers has a release date now, effing finally, when he sees it maybe he will at least try to go vegan.
Oh look at that! The winner of the men's singles at Wimbeldon this year...vegan!
isnt he almost vegan?
But is he deadlifting 700lbs? No. So he must be weak...😋
@@johnnyroe8053 It seems he was 100% plant based for Wimbeldon but 3 years ago when he released his book he was almost vegan.
@@wetl2628 😂
And let's not forget that vegan Serena Williams came 2nd in the women's.
What I learned from this video: Patrik has a really nice backyard
I totally respect Patrik, he is such an awesome guy, he has integrity smarts, beauty, compassion, real strength and he is also a Cancer, never mess with a Cancer!
Hes cancer? Astrologically we'd get along really well hahaha
So true! he is truly awesome and I love Cancer people!
He is such a cancer! Haha
I had to read this 3 times before I figured out what the H you were talking about
@@davidwilliams9386 David are you a cancer 2?
Great video. Idk why people get so upset when someone is a vegan.
Non vegans get upset because they want good news about their bad habits but there's no good news because the evidence that a vegan whole plants foods based diet is better for your health is increasing daily. The evidence that a non vegan diet is bad for your health is also increasing and they know because of that their on the wrong side because the evidence of a non vegan diet on the planet and how they are contributing to it is also increasing and they feel guilty about that.
@@davidthescottishvegan Vegans base there evidence by comparing it to the standard American diet which isn't saying much.
no one is upset when someone is vegan, unless when they try to impose their belief on you, by emotional manipulation, fear mongering, threat to destroy the actual food system and being condecending like this soy boy Mic.
@@misakistalker nice try.
misaki stalker uh no. Literally just asking if a restaurant has vegan options or if something can not have cheese on top gives you the nastiest responses. I asked for a vegetarian pizza without cheese.. “Why? Are you vegan?”
“Well...yes.”
“Why don’t you just eat the grass outside?!”
Honestly, shit like this, the eye-rolls, the you-think-you’re-better-everyones, come from nothing and nowhere, even when you don’t say you’re vegan, they just happen to ask. And constantly. And from loved ones, when you don’t even have to mention it anymore. It’s completely disgusting.
You forgot the Wimbledon men’s champion 2019!
David de Hilster - almost to vegan. Apparently he still eats fish sometimes, but pretty damn close. And don't forget about the women's tennis. They have tough vegan female tennis players.
Hahahahah hahah. Haahahahahahahahahaha he’s not vegan....
Novak is not vegan you are just misinformed, I am Serbian and I can tell you that he is not a vegetarian nor a vegan.
@@jeremycarter2875 he is know to eat traditional Serbian foods when he visits our country which he does regularly and often , our traditional food include pork meat and allot of dairy products.
@@jeremycarter2875 I am just saying bro those are facts , it is in every newspaper because we are very proud of him , so the news report everything he does so we as a nation kinda know all what he does that being said he said many times that he has a predominately plant diet but consumes animal products also.
For Joe's next video he will be talking about his heart attack and how it really wasn't a heart attack and how it really isn't a big deal and how it really has nothing to do with his diet.
Wait. Did he actually have a heart attack recently?
Meat alone doesn’t cause heart attacks you dummy. It’s when you follow meat with gross amounts of refined sugar like soda and all that other processed crap that causes adverse effects. Cholesterol itself is not what clogs arteries.
@@sruiz310 That's not what the science on the matter says. Its really a bad idea and outright dangerous to spread this misinformation.
@@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected And you know nothing of science perhaps a lesson from Bart Kay is in order for you.
@@garymichael8591 who's having all the heart attacks ? You guessed it . Meat eaters . Who's living longer lives without heart attacks? Omg you're so smart you guessed it again! Vegans
Joe Rogan ALMOST made it through a whole podcast without bringing up veganism - Congrats Joe!
The next candidate leaders in Canada are making it part of the campaign. Left-wing is Vegan and Right Wing is a balanced diet.
If he were a vegan he woulda said hi I'm joe I'm a vegan
@@ffgggkok Based on how much he talks about it, yes, yes he would have
joe rogan goes way out of his way to show how much of a man he is. Overcompensation much?
He is on hormone replacement therapy because his testosterone levels are too low. His own diet is turning him into a bitch and he still can't get how stupid keto is.
@@sergs1557 yeah I heard about that and it is true. I thought because of prior roid use that his own ability to crank out T was shut down so he was forced to inject T. Oh my goodness keto is just about the most unhealthy and stupidest diet around.
@@bonchidude he's also supplementing with T while also bitching about vegans needing b12 supplementation. duh.
@@lateral-alice yes for real and he knows how meat gets its b12, he knows but he is such a sellout. Non vegans supplement b12 too. Oh yes. rogan is an amoral man.
@@sergs1557 Why is Keto stupid?
It's amazing how many people mistakenly equate bodybuilding physiques (and that type of appearance in general) and overall strength with health. I was obsessed with the bodybuilding thing in my younger years but as I got older switched to being overall more athletic. It's a way healthier lifestyle, and that's what really matters. The other stuff is just aesthetic and mostly non-functional in the real world.
Athletic body build is way more attractive anyway, probably because it's more natural.
It's also not the healthiest lifestyle.
Bodybuilding and strongman aren't the same, bodybuilding is about physique, strongman is about physical strength, almost every strongman has big muscle muscles and a thick layer of fat on top of those muscles.
@@HammerheadGuitar Yeah, I realize that; never implied that they are the same. Neither are particularly healthy though, that's my point. Yet many people see some dude on a bodybuilding cover and immediately think they are "healthy".
@@veganfortheanimals6994 Than I misread your comment. But yeah I agree, being overweight is unhealthy wether it's fat or muscle and next to that pushing your body to the limit on a daily basis puts a lot of stress on your body.
*Facts And Logic Destroy Rogan Nonsense Every Time*
100% True!
@farorin I get as much love and appreciation of my comments as I do disdain and hatred of them.....it's nicer to receive the love!
@linus eisele
I can prove that you have a toddler's comprehension of math at best since you believe that eternity is a number.
Your next carnist dolt comment is........
@linus eisele
I know carnists like you are deeply triggered by Facts and Logic....ergo your comments are proof of this.
Tell me again how you believe eternity is a number?
So he was wrong about something does that mean he is always no it dosnt u libtard
Thank you for having Patrik Baboumian's back. Great video!
Sam Wingender Patrick never won as a vegan.
@@FoodieOmni Crap. Then I should pay people to put pigs in gas chambers and baby chicks in grinders while they're still alive.
My favorite quote from Patrik is “I can fit more then 2,000 screaming people in my back yard... that’s right, my backyard is bigger than yours.” 😂
Ask the rhino where he gets his protein.
@Citizenthirteen yes and some will say that Gorillas sometimes eat insects and such. That is an outright lie, but even if that is the case, have you seen the teeth on a Gorilla. They have the teeth of an omnivore but eat plants.
bonchidude ask my powerful horse what he eats.🐎
@@sidilicious11 ha ha ha ha grrrains, grrrrass, apppples, neigh!
@Citizenthirteen actually, they eat like 99% plants. Gorillas and other closely related primates to us tend to be opportunistic omnivores, as we have also evolved to be. This means that they can eat other things when there is scarcity of succulent, tender plant foods that are optimal for consumption, such as insects, eggs and even meat.
Gorillas will eat insects when the only plant foods around are highly fibrous, tough and calorically low.
@@bonchidude they can and do eat insects. Gorillas are mainly herbivorous, but can also be opportunistic omnivores.
Thank you for bringing up Kendrick Farris too. So many people hold the stereotype that vegans are frail and weak, I love seeing the strongest of us proving everyone wrong with literal world records.
@Matt Bond I mean we just covered this in the video if you actually watched it, Patrik deadlifted 800 official while Robert hit 750 official. If you want to go off of backyard unsanctioned PRs, be my guest, but Robert should change his narrative if that's the case.
@Matt Bond Patrik - 360kg (794lb) Deadlift (1 Rep)
Robert - 340kg (750lb) Deadlift (4 reps)
If you don't know the difference 44 pounds makes on a lift, you clearly don't lift. If you want to argue on this channel, you're going to have to bring facts.
Does it make you uncomfortable that a vegan has a higher sanctioned 1RM than an omnivore? What are you trying to prove here exactly? Maybe Robert should suck it up and pull a 795 in competition if he wants to talk trash.
Let's not forget that 0.5% of U.S. citizens are vegan.
@Matt Bond Wow! Those are incredible numbers! It makes me happy to see vegans like you lifting such massive weight, as it really goes a long way to combat the stereotype that vegans can't be strong. Well done!
Hey Mic, I just wanted to say Thank you so much for your work and for who you are. Your channel is unique and delightful. I've just become one of your proud Patreons because it is really the least I can do to thank you. Your work is one of the main reasons I became a whole food vegan and I am just loving it. You might have saved my life. Keep up your amazing work. Ps: you crack me up every time :D
Look, I'm no strong man but i go to a pretty intense group training. And not only am i one of the oldest, I'm also the only plant based person. I can tell you right now, on a regular basis I'm out performing both men and women in my class!
Cognitive dissonance is fancy for stupid.
No it's technically fancy for being triggered.
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I like how Joe Rogan always does onsite fact checks on almost any and every story but they NEVER fact check when trying to refute veganism.
I find Joe Rogan a lazy interviewer. For the most part, he is just BSing his way through the interview with a few facts and then a lot about him and his opinion and experiences. I don't get the appeal. When you listen to interviews with his guest by better interviewers, you can really learn something about that person, their thinking, and experiences. Not so with Joe.
Good point
It’s not an interview, it’s a conversation.
@@TheBeardedScouseViking Then a conversation with very little if not anything to offer.
TWROC96 My point is that it’s a conversation, so he shouldn’t come prepared with a bunch of facts to ‘interview’ the guest. That’s why he’s there. To have a conversation and discover stuff along the way.
TWROC96 that’s precisely why I listen to rich roll, the vegan antithesis of joe ro
No matter how much you lift, a one thing that makes you weak is when you can't confront the facts you are given.
Oooo...good point! 😊😉
Right on
Oooooooooooooh! Shablam!
So true. No vegan has won strongman.
yeah, like how Patrick sold out to people that dont know better for $$ and fame :(
I mean, honestly, sounds like both Rogan and Oberst don't know much of the nutrition regarding what it is to be... well, any kind of muscle-building athlete even as amateurs. Setting aside the steroids discussion, all you really need is to work out in a certain way and eat more calories and more protein than the average person to build that kind of muscle. Is it trickier to have a vegan diet and be a strongman or even just a skilled casual athlete of any kind? I suppose, but there are plenty of meat eaters who can't even grasp that a lot of their gains happen in the kitchen and not in any gym just addressing something as simple as weight loss and not something much more intensive than that. If anything, I would make the argument that most vegans actually are more likely to succeed in athletics as they already have a better understanding of their own nutrition and food intake than a lot of people who eat meat.
I’m sure you’re far more athletic than Joe aren’t you? 🙄
Your so fucking wrong its not even funny.
Eat more calories is a myth for gaining muscle. Lactic acid causes muscle expansion after healing, and you definitely dont need 6000 calories to heal if you train a certain way (singles at 70%) that being said, you cant thrive off of vegan diet, where as you CAN a meat only diet but also cut ten years off your life as well. If you eat vegan 70% of the time and eat some fish, small portions of red meat, you will thrive. Especially when you eat meat to repair lol sad but true. We need it all.
Tom Williams “lactic acid causes muscle expansion after healing”? Source?
@@joe06051989 have you ever had doms? Thats an over exposure to lactic acid, and low glucose stores in the muscle. Protein and carbohydrates work together to move water, amino acids, and glucose to your damaged muscle. This is why doms is bad. It makes muscle deflate. Obviously NOT if your a beginner. But a beginner constantly feeling doms every week is a bad thing. Its to much to text in here, but this is what ive been taught. Check out john meadows. Hes on gear but is very knowledgeable.
I enjoyed the video. Thanks Mic and keep 'planting' the fact based news.
All strongmen take steroids. It doesn't matter what your diet is if you take copious amounts of steroids. They always forget to mention this part of their diet.
That’s bc it’s not an interview it’s a conversation
Okay so why haven't the vegans overtook the omnivore's yet?
Steroids or not they still have to lift a massive amount of weight.
@@johnbishop2536 It's not that popular yet.
@Fatty Tee True but you still have to put the work in, that's what I mean. People act like you take roids and magically become super strong.
Great video! Just one clarification: Bodybuilding and strongman aren’t the same thing. But I’m sure strongmen also don’t have great life expectancy either!
Yup, body builders want to look their best, whereas looking at Robert here it's pretty clear that is not the goal. He is strong, but looks like the offspring of Madame Butterfly and the Michelin man.
@@sergs1557 I don't know about "looking their best", it's still about adding as much mass as possible, but they have to consider symmetry and be "lean", not fatty.
@@jelatinosa bodybuilding as a sport isn't really about muscle performance, purely aesthetics
@@aironuyan65 yes, I know, it isn't to "look their best" as that would probably be several lbs smaller. It's about looking HUGE not necessarily good. Competitively they moved away from more aesthetic towards more mass after Frank Zane and the like.
elines acevedo isn’t the reason they ran their bodies to highlight the aesthetic of their muscles in bodybuilding? I mean most those guys are huge, but from what I’ve read and seen it’s entirely about look.
So why are Joe Rogan podcasts always like 3 hours long? How many times can someone repeat the same shit for 3 hours an episode?
Repetitive bullshit✔
Mind numbing✔
Exercise in futility✔
Typical ramblings✔
Joe Rogan's followers have the IQ of Borat❗✔
@Sean Francis Waters Lancaster LOL🙄
@@octo.lina69 Why people hate vegans and love Joe than?
@ Some people love to hate vegans, some people genuinely hate joe..nothing new
Okay imma say it.....Robert Oberest just told the truth. Aint nobody taking away from dude and his accomplishments BUT, the point is he never got 'Invited' to WSM competitions, which means meat might be a real factor. Because even though Robert hasnt won it, ONLY the STRONGEST MEN IN THE WORLD get invited. JUST SAYIN, he can be the world strongest vegan lifter, fine.
Thank you! Patrik will NEVER be invited because he's not even in the same league as Robert.
Joe 'vegan curious' Rogan
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yea it be those ones.
just jump in man. water’s nice.
In addition to thoroughly debunking Joe and Robert on the strength issue, this video shows that Patrik is also the happier, more likable person.
I swear Joe Rogan talks about Veganism more than I do.
I like how you claim that as you talk about it in the first sentence you speak
Awesome video! 👍 Joe Rogan has a guilty conscience period. Deep down he knows eating animals is wrong. Who knows, maybe someday he'll come over to our side.....
Uhhh he dosnt actually promote the factory killing of animals or anything like that he hunts them which is a good thing or certain animals will become to overly populated and will hurt the ecosystem really bad which then will effect us
@@ffgggkok uhhh k
@@animallover9378 its tru
@@ffgggkok yeah if people quit hunting, the eco system will change so drastically that'll we'll all start dying because it affects us much . You fucking idiot
I can't wait until Joe rogans daughters and hopefully wife go vegan.
They'll probably do it just because they're tired of all his obsessive bulls**t.
Why would they do that??????
They all will. It will be hilarious. :3
They won't. Because Joe wont let them. He's a man.
@@triplecheeseburgermotovlogs Joe is a brainless fool who has rotted his brain with mushrooms and DMT.
What goes around, comes around. Rogan will end up losing credibility in the eyes of reasonable, intelligent people.
No, he won't. Just look at his latest idiot fest with Bob Lazar. Nobody is calling him out for that.
@@TheYakisobaNoodle ?
@@johnnyroe8053 Anything else to offer other than a question mark?
@@TheYakisobaNoodle It seems like you didnt read the "reasonable, intelligent people" part
@@johnnyroe8053 You would be surprised how many so called "reasonable and intelligent" people are morons by mine or your standards. As with everything.
When it comes to athletics, there’s nature and there’s nurture.
You can have the best diet, an elite body fat %, the best training program, and the perfect amount of rest. You can have all that and still lose to someone with better genetics.
Robert Oberst has great strength genes. Same with his buddy Eddie Hall. Eddie literally has identified a gene set that allows him to endure strenuous exercise for super physiological periods of time.
So it’s pretty rare that someone like Robert Oberst exists in the first place. He is 0.00001% of the population, so to speak. Expecting to find someone with that rare a genetic makeup, someone who is willing to eat those excessive quantities of calories, and put in all those hours of training - and also be vegan - I think it’s asking a lot.
But we did find someone pretty close to that in Patrik Baboumian. For his weight-class he is the elite of the elite. So all he had to do was break the ice and show that vegans can compete at the highest level, which he obviously did.
Man I wish I too had a roller coaster in my backyard. Also your beard is amazing I wish I had that genetic anomaly.
That Attack On Titan reference at the beginning definitely made me smile, favourite anime and manga of all time, keep up the good work, Mic!
Great job again, Mic! Just one thing. James Cameron is the producer of the movie, not the director. The director is oscar winner Louie Psihoyos😊.
So happy you made this video.
I LOVE your vegan "NASA" shirt! Where did you get that?? I need one asap
josiepieable 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not only do I think Joe is more curious about veganism than he wants to admit. But I honestly think he just does this for the attention. All the Keto/paleo people will love it, the people that hate vegans just to hate them will love it, and vegans will tune in so they can tear him apart. So much attention!
Djokovic isn't a strongman, but he just won a five hour long Wimbledon final on a vegan diet.
not a vegan diet. he eats fish and chicken
@@poopiedipoopie Source please.
@@WAndrewHarper google djokovic diet. He eat tuna, sardines, anchovies, etc...
Serena Williams is also Vegan
Patrik is such a legend
Unlike Patrik, Robert is a classified pro strongman and has placed in the finals of WSM, that literally makes him one of the worlds strongest men. Patrik does deserve some credit for winning the German nationals, But Patrik does not even compete on the same tier a Robert oberst. Therefore you can not compare there strongman careers in this way.
I am not saying that vegan or non-vegan is better I am merely pointing out the flaws in your argument so that you can hopefully come up with a better one.
I agree
beforeTHEthought ofPERCEPTION we WERE not HUMANS He’s not as good as Robert but he’s strong
You're just wrong. Patrick was european powerlifting champion FOR HIS WEIGHT RANGE, amongst other great achievements, Robert is way taller than him so of course Patrick isn't going to compete for world's strongest man but he was the best out of 700 million people, how is he any less of an athlete as Robert?
Marco Frank because he can’t even compete in wsm... not only will they not invite him but he literally can’t even be there because he won’t survive it. Patric can only front squat a 90 kg for like 4 reps when he went against faceless. They do double those for reps in wsm warmups? He also could only squat a 340 kg twice dude. They do 325 and 360 kg for reps in wsm
@@pablovonclausewitz
You are wrong. Darren Sadler is the same size as Patrick but he got invited to WSM because he performed better.
*More like ‘joe not again’. love these videos, mic*
Patrik is also funnier than Rogan.
"... against 0 competitions won". Yes, well, Robert Oberst might not have won anything, but he did make it into the WSM finals, meaning he is amongst the 10 strongest men on the planet. Just saying.
Meanwhile Pats never been invited
@@villeda009 hmm valid argument
It's some nice backyard Patrick has there, no doubt.
Well, the accurate information got to the people who it needed to get to, forget the people who are mindless and just “follow the leader”. thank you!
You deserve millions of subscribers
You forgot to say that Robert is 6 years younger, 60 kilos heavier when you said that Patrik can lift more than his official best despite being 30 centimeters smaller..
just to add insult to injury..
Also Patrik looks Robert's age and Robert looks Patrik's age
Renard Dubois Patrick's never been to WSM he doesn't compete against people
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 well Robert hasn't been there for the past 6 years.. not only he doesn't compete in WSM anymore but he hasn't won anything in his career.. Patrik has won titles. He never won world championship but at least he was able to win a european championship..
Renard Dubois Patrick was wrong Robert holds the American record for the log lift Patrick only holds off brand records not in the Arnold classic or WSM so they aren't really as credible
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 credible?
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 Patrik is 5'7". He's never going to be a contender for WSM. You have to be a genetic outlier to compete in that competition. Patrik is incredibly strong for his size.
Patrick's events he shows are shows where he competes alone how is that comparable to someone in WSM
his yolk thing was at A VEGAN festival in Toronto lol you cant make this up. Brian Shaw walked with a 1500lb yolk in 9 seconds
That really would be an extraordinary argument against veganism...'I don't want to be vegan because I could only lift the equivalent of a small car, and I need to be able to lift a little more than that'.
But the thing you have to remember about Rogen, is, he likes meat, and he appreciates a dark moment in hunting. So that makes it okay to do this. And isn't it weird how they just try their hardest to down play it, almost as if they are threatened in some way.
Another huge factor that affects the comparison of their PRs is the number of reps. If Patrik’s was a triple at 800, his one rep max would be higher than that.
I think you're dead right.
Joe 'Martial Arts/Hunter' Rogan is fighting against his closet vegan.
He knows he's wrong. He loves animals and yet he thinks he needs to eat them for strength, so he has to invent and support reasons to do so.
That guy has been talking about vegans since he had hair; I've heard the stand up bits.
He doesn't have to down veganism, no one asks about it, but he keeps talking about it.
That and martial arts and that he's a hunter now. He talks about that stuff a lot. 😂😂
Rogan does a lot overcompensating with his interest in those primal ‘ultra masculine’ pursuits like MMA & thrill-killing of animals & has often expressed butch & even sexist attitudes towards women. It’s made me question that he might be deep in the closet about something, but veganism wasnt the first thing that sprang to my mind. lol
He hunts to feel tough
@@lateral-alice What has he said that's sexist towards women?
Joe is an insecure coward, truth be told. He talks about hunting and eating meat to compensate for his deep insecurities. Funny, though, I've never viewed hinting as manly.. To the contrary, it's more of an activity for those terrified of a true challenge.
Bradley Smith ever thought he just liked to this sort of shit? This comment section sure has a lot of insight into Rogan for never meeting and talking to the guy.
I mean maybe you shit talk joe Rogan because you are jealous? The guy isn’t smart, but he at least seems to love his life and what he does.
I never knew that directly following a link affected the algorithm, but I will be sure to open in a new tab from now on.
Why does anyone listen to Joe Rogan?
Mic does.
Guilty consciences, beta cucks... The usual
Because he represents a lot of “bros” in search of themselves. But it’s like trying to use a hammer instead of a compass to find your way. The hammer may look tough, just does not lead you anywhere.
Becuase for the most part he is right and very good with facts. He isnt a liar bc he got one thing on a podcast wrong,vegans lie about him all the time does that mean there assholes or cucks n shit like this is redi
Rediclouse
it’s sad but people hate what they don’t know
I mean Novak Djokovic, who is vegan, just won Wimbledon haha :D
@Sergey Nikitin He is careful not to call himself "vegan" on the news, but he doesn't consume any animal products nor does he wear animal products. Sure technically plant-based means whole plant foods (so no potato chips for example because they are processed) but fundamentally he is vegan, at least by my definition.
You are free to disagree but he doesn't consume or wear animal products - vegan in my books. :)
As far as I know, hes got a lifelong contract for some rare cheese sort and he does not identify himself with the vegan movement
And he is an executive producer of the game changers...
At 4:40 he sets the yoke down which in a real strongman contest would end the event. And that yoke is lighter than the first round yokes at the Arnold classic.
Brian Shaw carried 1500lb Yolk in 9 seconds at Arnolds
5:30 joe Rogan claiming to be over 5'7...aww how cute lol
Wonder what Joe would think of me Mic the Vegan? Been raw vegan since 2002 and am a pro cage fighter and coach
I do feel that Joe has a personal responsibility with the amount of people that he does have following him to put out correct information when he is talking about other people that are not invited to his show. otherwise he is setting himself up for a gigantic lawsuit and I would encourage anyone to do it at this point! it is definitely slander!
Hey thanks for including my comment in your video!
Joe is more obsessed with vegans than vegans.
Patrik Baboumian looks like the Hulk and Wolverine had a baby.
That is an insult to Hulk and Wolverine
He’s not a real strongman, he could never compete in unlimited weight comps
damn the only real comment on the video
Hey Mic what database do you use to find the scientific articles and studies ? What kind of things do you search ? I tried using google scholar and quickly got overwhelmed ha ha ...
Joe (baa baa) Rogan expresses the voice of the herd. Don't expect much else from him.
THANK YOU!
This is also another example of how Joe and people to share his viewpoint try to make veganism about everything that it's not. Veganism is about ethics, be it in relation to animals and/or the environment, but the man doesn't want to compute that people might actually make choices that aren't entirely selfish. Apart from him spreading misinformation about Patrick, to anyone who does not aspire to be a strongman, why does it matter wether you can lift 672 or 800 pounds on a vegan diet? And to those who do, I am pretty sure they are not gonna look to Joe's Podcast as an authority on the subject. Yet, it perpetuates the image of feeling weak when on a vegan diet to people who might not have ever lifted before, but suddenly feel like it applies to them.
Even if what he was saying was true, which it is obviously not, an average person, the ones most of the world's population is consists of can live a long and healthy vegan life.
But then again, he is one extra special Joe and extra special Joe has habits to justify.
Great response! :)
How can anyone take Joe Rogan seriously 🤦🏻♀️
Awesome video! Officially vegan after the hoe rogan controversy, and studying the science behind the movement. As a life long joe rogan fan I was extremely disappointed in his arrogance and disrespect towards the matter.
Aw man, Joe... why so unscienced...
Love what you do Mike! Thanks for always putting in 110%!
Thanks Mic for the informative video. Just wish as many people that were influenced by Rogan's video knew the truth. What is it with Joe Rogan and vegans? 🤣
Wonder if he's still obsessed with vegans after 3 years lol
I'm a fan of both Joe and Robert, this is a valid rebuttal, would love to see their response
Robert lifted 800 pounds not 750 and he lifted it four times, not three and you also try to correlate a four rep set with another man's known best single. You are as deceptive as Rogan after calling him out for it. As a neutral observer, you have lost all credibility with me. BTW the best strength athletes in the World, like Robert, compete in an event called the World's Strongest Man, not the German Open. How many times has Patrick qualified for this event?
Keep on keeping on Mic!
Robert wasn't being mean but Patrick is not on the same level as Robert
There is a massive height and weight difference so that's not a fair comparison.
Thank you for covering such topics.👍
It's very well Patrik bringing up all his achievements, but he's not even in the same league as Oberst.
Robert competes in much more elite events.
Patrik can't even qualify for the qualifiers for the WSM qualifier. This is, by comparison, Junior A league hockey vs NHL
Great Video.
But PLEASE use metric units, we have the year 2019. Imperial units are obsolete for over 100 years and have stupid factors.
Joe "Bro-Science" Rogan
Great video. Thanks again.
I have a sneaky suspicion that vegan diets will be shown to be the best for all physical sports soon ....
Maybe by some bias vegans yes,
@@robertallan6373 ive been working on a meta analysis about veganism covering hundreds of peer reviewed papers ... that doesnt sound like bias.
Personal opinions are more likely to be bias?
@@therobinson5451 For me personally its first hand observation, I was in the Seventh Day Adventist church for many years, the church is known for keeping a healthy diet, they own Sanitarium. through all those years I have seen many who kept the vegetarian diet which seemed to be very beneficial for a healthy way of living, I also have seen those who were vegans which did not seem as healthy as the vegetarian diet.
Those who had health problems seem to be more vegans than the vegetarians, also the vegans didn't seem to look as healthy, they were underweight and just didn't look as good as the vegetarians, these were people who have been on these diets for many years, not just out of the blue like many today.
It can takes many years before certain health probables arise, the craze on the vegan diet sweeping the world has only been around for not so many years, young people who are on this diet do look great, simply because they are still young, but I believe down the track this will change for the worse.
@shawn Bosley Well said.
I have a suspicion your wrong tho ot can be healthy there are benifits to eating meat tho I get the moral aspect of this all
Have you seen his diet? 8 scoops of protein powder.. Processed sausages... A plate of chips. A ton of different supplements. Processed greens powder.. He drank his 'meals'.. You honestly can't say Patrick bouboumians diet is healthy.. If the diet was so good then why is he using a TON of extracted protein and a ton of supplements?
Oh Joe... he’s so threatened that veganism is on the rise. His studio is now his little safe space.
less than 1% of the world is vegan. Not all that threatening but ok...…
mindshotjon Yet he brings it up and tries to put down veganism any chance he gets 😂 if he didn’t feel his lifestyle was threatened then he wouldn’t care to even bring it up at all.
I don’t think Joe is “threatened” by people who eat veggies. Ooooo sooo scary. He’s talking about what’s a good diet chill. Joe just wants to know what’s up for these athletes.
CollapseAirsoftTeam Again... if he’s not feeling a little threatened then why does he take every chance he can get on his show to try to put down veganism? He literally did not have to bring up a vegan diet but he did. And he just had to bring up Patrick. Joe is obsessed with talking about vegans and obsessively tries to debunk veganism. I think he’s the one that needs to chill. Lol
Lady I’m just saying “Threatened” is the wrong word.
This was a great upload and more than made up for the last one !!!! 👍🏼🌱❤️