Guys, you've developed a great channel here - thank you! One suggestion: for longer videos like this, add timing markers (my description, not TH-cam's) with subjects. I'm starting to see this on more channels and it's a huge timesaver for the viewer. For this video, I would want to hone in on specific engines for your feedback, rather than fishing my way through the whole hour+ for those insights. Now.. hopefully this isn't a user error on my part. If it is, I'm sure I'll hear about it in the comments. :)
I work in sales for Ford. If a customer has any questions or doubts about trucks, I send them to TFL. They always appreciate it. This is the reason why, honest opinion about trucks. Towing, MPG, and even talk. I have been following you guys for a while and I appreciate you guys! Take care.
@@bryan70546 all the mechanics i onow choose the coyote over EcoBoost even chevy fan boys will choose the coyote and are affraid when they race one 😂🤣🤭 the first thing they ask me its that a 10sp coyote? Im like yes they go naw i dont race you no more 🤣🤣😂😂
Love that Andre and Nathan love the 3.0L Duramax, and so do I. Back in May I purchased a 2020 Silverado LTZ Z71 4x4 with the Duramax (10 speed) with the intent of upgrading our 3,000lbs high wall pop-up camper to a travel trailer (2021 Rockwood Mini-Lite 2509S is what we purchased, great family camper under 26 feet in length). Driving around town (80% or more suburban driving), and using TFL's fill up method, I am always between 24-25 mpg between fill-ups (the truck gets better mpgs than the 06 Honda Odyessy we sold for the truck). My 50mi best mpg in Southwest Ohio on the highway showed 31.7 mpg. Towing: the 3,000lbs (probably closer to 3,400lbs when it was packed) from Southwest OH to Muskegon MI averaged 22mpgs. Towing the Rockwood Mini-lite from Southwest Oh to Cades Cove Campground in the Smokies (the hill-est parts of I-75), probably close to 6,000lbs loaded. Averaged between 11-12mpgs. Very smooth engine, great towing power (no power drop, passing other V8 trucks with trailers).
While not a Chevy guy I watched the review of the baby duramax and yes, I agree this is one of the best motors they put in a half ton truck. Power to the ground is very respectable. Decent amount of giddy up and go for a diesel, and some updates to GM’s interiors and exteriors. GM put a little thought into this one.
Andre and Nathan have a smoother conversational chemistry than Roman and... well, anybody. Not dissing Roman, who is awesome for having built all the TFL channels; we all have our strengths and weaknesses. A & N simply have a rapport that make their podcasts easier to digest. Great content, informative and entertaining. Thanks guys!
Roman has to look out for the entire team as the manager and unfortunately sucks on camera. He is a good business person but not someone the audience wants to hear from, keep him behind the scenes.
After all the years of owning big V8s and diesels, crew cabs and double cabs..the one that outlasted them all is a nearly 20 year old Chevy manual 4.3 reg cab long bed 2wd. Literally the best truck I’ve ever had and a reminder that simple isn’t always incompetent. Happy holidays TFL crew!
My coworker has one of those 4.3 5 speed Silverados. It's a giant piece of crap and it's rusting like crazy but it just keeps on going and tolerates all sorts of neglect. He drove it with like half of the instrument cluster not working for several years because he just doesn't care. It's a perfect beater truck and that's what he uses it for.
I had an boss probably 10 years ago, he had a single cab 4x4, odometer stopped working about 5 years previous, it had 255k miles on it at the time of the break. The truck runs fine to this day, so many miles that you can twist the ignition without the keys to start it.
@GMguy 0317 210k on 97 Vortec 350 and 4l60e. Towed 6.5k lbs 20ft enclosed trailer first few years, lots of unloaded highway miles, now tows 3.5k lbs14 ft enclosed trailer. ???k on 79 k10 400 th350 Both trucks original engine and trans. Both on my channel.
I have had a few GM 5.3 engines and they were all great and reliable and did the job in every situation...but, I just went to the 6.2 in a Trail Boss and I will NEVER go back to the 5.3. World of difference.
@@OneBadSon basically the power. It's 65 more horsepower and appx 75 more fp torque than the 5.3 but feels like twice that much. So much quicker when passing even with a load. I'm getting the same gas mileage that I was getting with the 5.3. 16.8 - 17.3 mpg. Yes, I use premium gas.
@@dubltap7216 awesome! That’s great that it’s so much more noticeable. It seems like it would b such a strong engine. Have you used regular in it at all and if so have you noticed a difference? As I understand premium is only recommended, not required, is that correct?
@@OneBadSon I haven't used regular although the dealer filled it the first time and I'm guessing they used regular. I noticed my milage went up when I filled it the first time. Yes,you can use regular but being that gas is relatively cheap right now I'm using 91.
I'm now on my seventh Ram. Six of them had/have the 5.7 Hemi engine. I have never had any problems or issues with this engine. In my case the reliability is 100 percent. I'll also admit that the E Torque makes the start/stop feature much smoother and acceptable. I don't think I will ever have a turbo charged engine. Repairs can be frightfully expensive once the warranty has passed.
A friend of mine got 465 thousand miles out of a 03 Tundra with the 4.7 before trading it. Never any issues, just normal maintenance. It was running perfect when he swapped it.
That's very common with most full size trucks. Maybe not 400k, but I know many people with Hemi Rams, Fords (v8 and ecoboost) and Chevy v8s in excess of 200k with no problems just routine maintenance. It's why you pay more for a truck, they build them to last longer than cars.
400k on a 4.7 toyota while not uncommon REQUIRED $4000++ in scheduled maintenance....something the domestics do not need. The 4.6L and 5.7L went to timing chains....no scheduled changes. When I owned my 5.7 tundra, the water pump was a common failure....the dreaded pink slime. Toy finally stepped up and extended the warranty on the air pumps...but many people paid $3000 to fix. People have short memories regarding the front diff bearings that will howl. Cam covers leak, warping dash among other nagging problems. Mine ate brake pads like candy....but for some reason, according to a tundra web site, that wasn't that common.....toy did replace the ENTIRE calipers because of bad seals....still went through pads in less than 20k miles. I liked my Tundra....but the reliability was no better or worse than other trucks I've owned.
Here's tip for those who are considering the 6.2. In Canada, regular fule is 87 octain. I put octain booster in (eg. royal purple or STP) When on sale they cost $3 to 4 per bottle. Typically saves me $10 to 15 per fill up depending on gas prices and how empty my tank is. Depending on the maker the octane boost is 5-7 points
I've worked with a lot of mechanics from all walks of life. African, Mexican, etc who own independent shops and they always recommend a Toyota truck. It sucks that they are so expensive but its worth it for me. I'll just save up for a new Tacoma.
I bought a 2017 Silverado Z71 with 5.3 brand new. All maintenance done, top tier fuel, never abused, and has 79k Miles. Since July 2021 it’s had AC compressor replaced, oil leak fixed, and is currently in the shop having all the lifters replaced and torque converter replaced. Very disappointed.
I’ve owned a 5.3L. Never again. I was always having to fill it with oil while topping it off with gas. Now, I own the 5.0 Coyote and I absolutely love it. I’ll eventually go to the new Powerboost. But, for now, I’m still loving this 5.0 Coyote.
I had a 5.3 in my 08, I hated it. Same situation as you, underpowered, adding oil. Drove GM for years. 85 GMC with a 350, 99 with a 4.8 (Great truck), 05 with a 4.8, good truck just felt underpowered compared to my 99. Had a 16 HD with a 6.0 and loved it, ran flawlessly, but very poor fuel mileage. Now I have my 3.5 ecoboost and love everything about it. Seems that more and more people switching to Ford nowadays. I can see why.
@@bigf1502 My 5.3L was on a 2007 GMC Sierra 4WD crew cab. And, it started burning oil the day I drove it home from the dealership. I would have to add 2-3 quarts of Mobil 1, at least, between every oil change and the dealership claimed it was “normal”. And, for a truck with 315 HP, I was only able to get 16 mpg (mostly highway driving). But, my 5.0L (with a few mods) has well over 400 HP and gets 16.5 mpg, and that’s with a lead foot because as you know, whether 5.0L or EcoBeast, they’re fun to drive!
yep rock solid. my 2011 water pump been done twice, one manifold done, now other one is noisy when cold... and now getting lifter rattle... gotta get some engine honey. and it has 84,000kms on it... not even 50k. Great little engines.
My 2007 Yukon Xl 5.3 was so bad it turned a lifetime GM guy to a Ram 1500. The Ram has almost 100 more horse power, gets 2-4 mpg better local and up to 24mpg highway. The Yukon never got more than 18 highway. I did a 4300 mile trip loaded bed from NJ to Steamboat Springs Co and averaged 21.5 with speeds up to 90 for hours at a time on Route 80. So far at 97k the Ram is the most reliable vehicle I have owned. This is also with a leveling kit and 33’s.
For us poor people my 98 dodge pick up is on 300k miles n still running strong the best 318 n for chevy is the 05 silverado have 305k on that 5.3l 327ci n also running strong
Yes, my son’s 98 dodge is running with over 300,000 miles on it. The rear seal needs changed and it does have its share of electrical issues. But hey...over 300,000 miles!
Nathan isn't alone, the 2.7L ecoboost is the most purchased engine for the F-150. The tow ratings are hampered by the lighter duty 8.8 axle in most of the 2.7s and 5.0s that limit their GVWRs. The reality is that no one really tows more than 9,000lbs with a half ton truck, mostly due to lateral stability of the shorter wheelbases and lower weight compared to 3/4 and 1 tons. The 2.7 is MORE than capable of towing 9,000 lbs, and is physically the most heavily built gas motor Ford has beside the 7.3. Paired with the 9.75 rear end, it will more confidently tow than the 5.0, and deliver similar loaded efficiency, all whilst not consuming gallons of oil like the 5.0. It's the manic personality, even from low rpm, and the buttery smoothness that gets most people. The only thing that I plead with Ford to do is to expand the availability of the 2.7 payload package that gives the 9.75 rear end, beyond the XL trim. We know it's your best engine, YOU know it's your best engine (they put it in everything now) why aren't you letting it do it's best in the F-150?
The 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 L83/84 solid engine with the 6/8/10 speed transmission we have 2019 Silverado Trail-Boss 27813 miles / 2021 GMC Yukon XL AT4 3620 Miles 31433 Miles total. We had a 2015 Chevrolet Suburban LT Z71 with the 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 L83 and it went 223,632 miles of tire changes/ oil-changes and just usual upkeep. To be said the 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 L83/84 is one heck of a solid bulletproof engine.
Gm’s 5.3 is the most fuel efficient V8, is tried and true, very reliable, parts are cheap and has enough power for 90% of people buying them. Just my opinion...
What ford needs to make is the 2.7L ecoboost ford engine, with a larger electic motor, in a plug in hybrid configuration. It would would be the ultimate engine combination for inner city use, especially for efficiency. It would do great for highway towing, and have great durability, because of the compacted graphite iron block. This block is built much like a diesel engine block. They could also configure the engine to be able to use multiple fuel types. No manufacturer could compete with a truck like that.
I have a 2019 Sierra 5.3 with the 8 speed. So far have about 21000 miles on it, been the best engine and the 8 speed no complaints, it is so smooth I don't even notice that it is shifting. I must have got a truck that was put together on a good day. Also in the city I live the city uses a lot of GMC sierras as their fleet trucks for many years so that must say a lot for dependability.
I just bought a 2021 Ford F150 with the 2.7L Ecoboost and I absolutely love this engine. I had the first gen 3.5 Ecoboost and its was very good to me but I never needed all the power which is why I picked the 2.7 for my new truck. Driving around I'm getting about 21mpg which is far better then my 3.5 was getting plus I have the extended range fuel tank(36 gal) on my new truck so my range is massively improved. Overall I'm extremely happy with my purchase.
The F-150 with the 2.7 is probably the best all-around vehicle in America. It tows about 8K, carries 5 in comfort, gets good mileage (mine is 20 MPG over 40K so far), and has plenty of power to get out of its own way. If I need to move more than four tons worth of stuff, I can rent a vehicle for a day or two. Way cheaper than the upcharge for the 3.5, 5.0, or 3.0. And it looks good (being fair, most modern trucks look pretty good) doing it.
Once you have proven reliability and mileage with low emissions, you just need to make them more versatile and meet people's needs. Old or ancient vehicles are so good people restore them and it's worth it. Like your house, you repair it and add to it. You don't tear it down all the time and keep changing it. The promises of amazing economy and power with versatility are the one to build. Some of the best houses or most coveted are built right and very old. They have also been restored or repaired and are valued for giving even more than they were designed for originally. These promises of fuel mileage have always resulted in the customer saying wow, I could had a v8
I love my 2.7 F150. I can tow my RV and when I'm not I get great MPG. In sport mode it's pretty quick. I have to watch myself or I'll hit 80 and not even realize.
I love my 2020 f150 with the coyote v8, test drove all 3 engines and couldn't resist the character and soul of the v8, no replacement for displacement lol
@@buckgonsalvez384 yeah this was my first f150, I plan on doing the ford performance extreme exhaust and the fox 2.0 suspension kit from ford performance as well, should be awesome! Good luck with yours!
Unless you want more pulling power and speed! People that hate the ecoboost have never usually ever driven one until that happens you just have no idea how good they are!
@@coryu2403 if you watch the poll taken by Town and Country Ford of their mechanics it was 9-2 for the V8. It’s much more reliable and easier to repair. Just saying 🤷♂️
As long as they make a 5.3 Chevy or gmc that’s what I will have. Easy 400000 mile engine have done on 4 different vehicles, and worked them hard towing.
Here's the scoop: ANY engine with active fuel management has had problems. The Ram 5.7 has had some issues but in general is a good engine. The Ford Ecoboost turbos tend to fail and leak oil as they pass 100k miles . I haven't heard anything about the GM 4 cylinder turbo as of yet so jury is out. Bottom line... Any V8 without active fuel management from any of the big 3 is solid, same goes for the V6's. The GM4.3 is traditionally bulletproof... although not a powerhouse for trucks...but comparted to V8 engines of yesteryear it surprisingly matches up (HP, Torque, towing) to those legacy engines quite well.
@@ahighervibe4086 while the engines may not last as long. They can Definitely tow alot more and way more fuel efficient and easy to maintain than the older trucks. The cost of engine will pay for itself in the savings of fuel. Sorry 10 to 15 mpg is not acceptable
@@ghostlegit you say that but you will have to buy a used engine with 150k for that to be true otherwise my price as a service manager at a dealership for a Remanufactured engine is bare minimum $3200 for just the motor and with your general engine job parts(plugs, thermostat, water pump, and a few gaskets that don’t come with the reman) along with labor, your going to be paying $5500 at least. So no the 1 mpg is not worth it. But if you get the cylinder deactivation disablers you get rid of the oiling issues and have a good reliable engine.
I f I were to give my top picks for 1/2 ton trucks. If I were to give a award for the most reliable engine it would go to the Tundra 5.7L If I were to give an award for best new engine on the market it would be the new 3.0L Duramax. Other great engines are the GM 6.2L , and the Ford 5.0L , Hemi 5.7L. All great engines.
I have towed about 8k lbs travel trailer with the tundra. The engine is very capable with powerful motor and 4:30 rear end towing was easy. Some of these trucks have higher towing numbers but definitely cannot tow as well as the tundra. I drive a suburban as a daily driver and while it can tow 8k it definitely will not do it without lots of full throttle in the mountains. The Tundra pulls up grades no problem. The suspension on the tundra empty stiff, loaded fantastic.
@@paulhunter9613 especially if you are towing and have the smaller tank. The fuel gauge was changing so fast my first reaction was is it broken. Then I remembered it’s a Toyota it’s not broken just thirsty.
I rrally think Ford should have put a clean-sheet turbo inline 6 in the new Bronco. Or something really out of the ordinary like a inline 7 or inline 9 (also turboed).
Bought a 2020 Chevy 1500 Silverado 4x4 with the 5.3 L and 8-speed transmission in MAY 2020. No issues so far with the transmission and the engine has been surprisingly pleasant. Just bought an MBRP middle side exit exit to give it a little "sound". Great video guys!
I’ve got a 2012 crew cab like your but it only has a 6 speed. I live in Alaska and it is geared lower for pulling. Face it we don’t use cruise control up here and hills are common.it only has 46 thousand on it but no issues and we pulled a camp trailer from New Hampshire to here a year after I got it. I got an old beater 98 Extended cab 2500HD. It’s got 170 thousand with no issues.
I have a 2020 f150 xl with 3.3l long box with vinyl interior only option is power window and locks. Great basic everyday work truck, love it. I don't tow much, but it will tow everything I need. The big three are very good at marketing and getting people to buy thing thee don't need. Especially in the 1/2 ton pickup market. Think about what you really do before you buy.
I have 17' F150 with a 3.5 eco, great motor and have ordered the new F150 with the 3.5 powerboost with the 7.2kw power pk. can't wait. I feel like Ralphie and his dream of getting a Red Ryder, Carbine Action 200 round BB gun.
Tundra TRD Pro Truck + 3.5TT PowerBoost and 10speed Auto + RAM air suspension + RAM infotainment + GM auto 4WD + Jeep front and rear Lockers = my perfect truck
GMs auto 4x4 is not new, it has been around for over a decade. I have it on my 2006 and it's been nothing but trouble (been fixed 4 times in 9 years). I'd prefer a lever or even a lockable fulltime 4x4 system over it. Or just a reliable electronic system like Toyota's.
Matthew, I have to disagree. I think the ZF8 Ram uses is a much better option than the Ford/GM 10 speed. That said, Ram air suspension, Ford Powerboost, and GM style 4x4 would totally ruin the reliability and simplicity of the Toyota chassis. I think the Ram TRX is ideal. Huge power, great transmission, Dana 60 rear end with locker, Bilstien suspension, and that nice Ram interior.
Ask yourself, toyota’s 5.7 is so ancient yet it scores the highest resell value and reliability ratings year after year while others are constantly changing. toyota’s QDR is impressive built in San Antonio Texas.
Dependable sure. But a dependable vehicle that drives poorly and seats are like stone. Add the generational boring looks. Is it REALLY a value ? Not in most worlds. 😂
After owning all 3 domestic brands over the years, my 96 and 98 C/K 1500 Extended Cab 2 and 4 wheel drive trucks were the most reliable. Both trucks had the 5.0L Vortec 305 engine. That's just my personal experience. After that, I had pretty good luck with a 2000 Expedition with the 5.4L Triton. Currently, I'm the owner of my second Infiniti QX80 and the 5.6L has been awesome. No issues at all and normal maintenance.
@@SlickSmooth84 It's a 2016, but we bought it used in 2021. Just went over a hundred thousand miles about 3 months back. I've only had to replace one coil. No issues at all and just normal maintenance. It's a beast of an engine, but the fuel mileage is terrible, which you probably already know. However, it's been my favorite gas burning engine out of all that I've ever owned. Strong, fast, pulls hard and just keeps going. I run 0w-20 in it just as a side note.
Picking up a Chevy Trail Boss with the 5.3 liter/10 speed combo on Monday. Thanks TFL for justifying my decision with every review you guys have done on that truck. It really does check a lot of boxes.
5.7 Hemi seems like a really nice well balanced middleground of all these different aspects. Not the most reliable, but more reliable than most. Moderate price, likes 89 fuel but can run on 87 (doesn't need 91/93) nice HP and torque numbers, not the most powerful but more powerful than most. Has a great sound, solid fuel efficiency (especially for its size), nice acceleration, really good towing capability. Just an excellent all-purpose all-rounder. The 6.2 is close but it getting slightly worse gas milage AND needing the premium fuel hurts. The 3.5 Powerboost is close too but very expensive and not quite as reliable. Hemi is my choice, from the gasers at least. Diesel I'm not familiar enough with.
you can buy a module to deactivate the cylinder deactivation, and theyre past the worst of it which was 08-12 or 13....when it was REALLY bad. even then, people repaired them without the afm and they last forever (3+k though)
My 96 suburban k2500 7.4 original 220k miles runs perfect no tick uses no oil no leaks pulls anything trans and drivetrain work smoothly if you can find one buy it.
Drove a 2003 F-150 5.4 320k. No engine issues but I did do ball joints, front wheel bearings and universal joints. Overall I was super happy with it and still got 6k trade in. 2018 now 5.0 so far so good but only 65k.
This is my 8 GMC truck I've own ...The last 2 were 5.3 L..2006...and now 2018..I have no complaints to make about the 5.3 at all.. Great on gas and lots of torque,,
Well over all the years I’ve been using trucks for towing the best reliability I’ve ever had is with the Ford I know some other people may of had other results but in my industry it’s the best so far for me
I have owned several Ford and Chevrolet trucks. I’ve owned a couple of Dodgers. I recently bought the Toyota tundra 1794, because the I force V8 from Toyota has more trucks out there with a half 1,000,000 miles on them and even up to 1,000,000 miles on them than any other truck. I was willing to pay for more gas to have that type of longevity. Also, if you trade trucks often, the resale value on Ford Chevrolet and Dodge doesn’t quite compare to Toyota. Regardless, all the trucks out there are pretty decent and happy truck driving.
I've owned the 2.7 Ecoboost paired with the 10 speed transmission and I have to say I actually miss my F-150 FX4. I've owned Ram, Chevy, Toyota, etc... There are things I liked and disliked about all of them, but that 2.7 was soooooo much fun!
I have owned a 5.3L V8 from GM, I have owned a 5.4L V8 with a Ford, I have owned a 5.7L V8, and even a 3.5L ecoboost over the last 20 years, and handss by down the Toyota iForce 5.7L V8 for reliability and power has been my favorite. Not only that its cruising drivability is the best as well. Its a great cruising motor. If you’re concerned about buying a truck.
I have a silverado trailboss 2019 5.3 and bought it because of your reviews (bought in 2019) and absolutely love it. I have over 50 thousand miles and no issues with it at all. I have upgraded it airintake exhaust ect. I've thought of trading it in but there really is no reason for me to do so. Thanks for great videos and advice!!
I bought a Yukon new in 03. 20 years and 300k miles later i still have it no major issues and may go another 300k. It is a work truck and has been abused so i can honestly tell you it's a very good engine.
True there is no locker in a Tundra Pro but the Auto LSD and Atrac are very capable.I have a Tacoma Off Road and I’ve only used the locker twice because of the LSD/Atrac prowess.
I have a 14 Raptor and a 07 Titan, so if I'm sad I start my Raptor and if I'm really sad I start both and stand in between. But for my future its the 3.5 hybrid after a couple of years of bugs.
Best is the 5.7 I-Force in the Toyota Tundra. Sadly no longer available. Not the most fuel efficient, but you can pass a lot of garage bays. That pays for a lot of gas! I Had a 2010, ran 370,000K, got my 2021 last October, the end of line for the 5.7 V8. Hope I have as many trouble free miles.
My 1996 F250 has the 300 inline 6, which i consider the absolutely the greatest engine ever put in ANY truck PERIOD!!!! No manufacture has ever put a engine like the Ford 4.9L in a truck, EVER! A person that has the 4.9 will never live long enough to wear it out if proper maintenance is done on it, AKA mobil110W30, mobil1 filter, and change coolant every 2-3 years. I would have no worries to jump in it and drive it coast to coast at any time!
The best for me is my 3.5 TT, fuel economy and brutal power is unmatched. Mine's dependable, people I know with them haven't had problems. As Nathan says the 3.5 TT is "Crazy Poweful", and that is true, every 3.5 TT owner I know, including myself says, "the power is scary".
@@tedschmitt178 the 3.5 mated to a 10 speed is a great combo. I’ll take a GM interior and ride any day of the week. Naturally aspirated power in my opinion is superior with delivery. If I bought a Ford, which I considered in the buying process, it would be the 5.0 mated to a 10 speed auto. I’ve owned 2 of the Coyote generations in the Mustang. Absolutely wonderful power plant
@@darrin2053 I have a 5.0 with the 10 speed only because I couldn’t locate one with the 3.5 equipped like I wanted (2WD STX). I tow a camper which weighs ~6200 pounds, and the 5.0 needs to be revved much more. The 3.5 is effortless with more weight, especially going uphill.
unreal how reliable they are. change the oil... 300k mi, low end torque, and just go. 302 were a damn good option too, and i gotta hand it a bit to the 4.6 as well.... pretty indestructable... did have a few spark plug spitting out issues but not as bad as the 5.4!!!
From everything I've read, heard, etc over the years...the 5.7 iForce in Toyotas from 2007 to like 2022 are one of the best of all time as far as reliability.
Yeah, transmission is a huge issue. When a truck had a clutch pedal, you didn't have to worry about it. Just a rebuild kit for these Alison transmissions are cost prohibitive
I'm running a 2017 1500 Silverado Z71 with a 6.2L and an 8-speed. It is rock solid and pulls our trailer just fine. Only two clogged injectors before 10,000 miles replaced under warranty. Has run beautifully ever since. Just touch the accelerator and it takes off like a shot. Gets a good steady 21 - 22 mpg at 65 - 70 mph and 12-14 mpg towing our 25 ft trailer across the flats and 10 mpg climbing steep hills. Rock solid and doesn't get hot. No complaints. Thinking about going up to a Silverado 2500HD with the Duramax and 10 speed so we can pull bigger trailers in the mountains but the prices make my heart seize up! Yikes! One properly set up for bumper pull and/or a 5th-wheel running in the low- to mid-60s. Whew! A bit steep for me.
@@robertcolpitts4534 my girlfriends uncle pulls a fifth wheel toy hauler (somewhere in the low 40’s feet long) and just upgraded to a Denali 3500 HD 6.6 Duramax. Said he spent around 80-90 on it. My heart about dropped, I can’t imagine spending near 100k on a truck
@@1k59j1 - Those are all blinged out (techno-bling, that is). Just a basic truck with some bling in the HD series runs $58K to $62K, $10K of which is in the Duramax.
Tundra 5.7 iForce V8. Great power, Superior build quality, runs forever. Bulletproof. Add on the TRD dual exhaust and the sound is amazing. Toyota moto: "if it aint broke, dont fix it". The big 3 truck brands are always broke, so they keep trying to fix them and mask thier poor build quality with an over abundance of disposable electronics, tech and 15 different engine options.
Do you want to know why you hear more about the big three and recalls that they have ? It’s because they sell more than three trucks a year. Toyota is irrelevant now and it’s there own fault. There are tons of Fords and Chevys and Rams on the road, that have 0 issues with very happy owners.
@@Matts000 Here's what I know. My bud has a 2006 Tacoma with 270 thousand miles. No major repairs ever done. My aunt had a Toyota T100 with 310 thousand miles on the clock when she got rid of it. No major repairs (got rid of it cause she retired and moved into town truck still ran perfect). My uncle has owned a 1/2 from every major manufacturer and when he switched to Toyota he stopped switching brands. He totaled his Tundra when he got ran off the road a couple years ago and immediately purchased another one without even looking at anything else.
The lightest truck would be the Ford F150 Regular Cab Short Bed (6.5'), which is a combination no one else still offers. Add in the aluminum body and use the 2.7T motor with a tune and it will be FAST and efficient. I think i calculated the 4x4 version to be 4600 lbs. I am very tempted by that combination
I’ve watched this video twice now and simply love how you both naturally and efficiently walk us through all of the engine/power train options available in the truck market. Very well done. Looking forward to listening/watching and learning more from you both.
A good motor with a ton of aftermarket accessories. I'd rank the 5.9 Cummins as the best engine ever put in a production, passenger vehicle, with the 7.3 powerstroke, 22re and the various LS engines as good runners up.
Just wait until the sprocket on the camshaft goes out of timing and the engine blows up. Because the Ecodiesel engine , the camshaft and sprocket doesn't have anything else to hold it in time other than the bolt .
Hey, one little thing about mid size trucks. My dad has (almost had) a chevy colorado V6. We towed and hawled a lot, we might have abused it a couple times and we almost consistently tow around the limits it has. It broke at 200k km (about 125k miles). Engine can't be re built, it destroyed the crankshaft, cilinders, pistons, etc. We always make maintenance on time or shortly after (reasonably), we are always on top of it, every week we check levels, we are on top of the fuel economy to know if it needs maintenance before time, we fix everything... It is the 3.6L vvt, same as camaro v6 and many cadillacs. Don't buy 3.6 for the long term! On the other side, z71 suspension is awesome, hasn't been touched once and it still is like brand new (remember we tow, hawl and use it off road consistently, as well as a lot of highway and city driving). I wonder if the silverado trailboss with that z71 sus will survive the long run with us.
I have a 2001 Explorer sport Trac with 295000+ on it the 4.0 cologne engine has towed it's max rating and was a daily driver for years starting to rust some underneath but is still in great shape,I drive it occasionally and will keep it!
Just picked up a 2010 Ram 1500 trx4 with the 5.7 L Hemi. LOVING THIS MOTOR. I've read a couple articles stating that they have no problem averaging 300,000 miles out of these motors. Bought mine with 100,000 in a rust free very clean truck.
I have a '98 Ram 1500 with the old 5.9 Magnum engine that I bought at a Sheriff's auction for $500. The transmission had to be rebuilt as it was blown, (also some minor body damage as it looked like they used a pit maneuver to stop it) but that was 15 years ago and I've been driving it ever since. I've put over 200K on it myself. The engine has been rock solid. It passed 300K awhile back without any engine related issues whatsoever. It is a bit of a gas hog, but it has never let me down. If I were in the market for a new truck today, that 5.7 Hemi would probably be my top pick.
Love my Ram 5.7 2019. Rides like an old caddy or Lincoln but has get up and go with a deep roar. Change that oil frequently and don't leave it idling over 15 minutes and it last I've read. Gets great mileage with the 8/4 cylinder deactivation.
I would have liked to hear if you had any problems with any of the engines. I know you guys won’t put out bad advertisement on any of these auto makers but a honest review on engine reliability would be nice
I bought a brand new 2019 Silverado half ton custom 4x4 5.3L with tow package 6speed for 36k$ during the pandemic. Added the afm/dod bypass chip and she shifts smoothly. Running 87 octane for normal use. My truck costed less at price point than my wife’s suv! Drove up to Sacramento on one tank of gas averaging 23 mpg from northern LA not pulling a trailer. Final price with tax, license, and finance is 46.5k. Still expensive but affordable in today’s economy. Best bet is to buy a used loaded vehicle if your budget is different. My work truck is a 26 ton Cummins turbo diesel and it’s the best motor in the fleet hands down reliability and fuel economy. Beats the Ford f450 7.3 gas motor, Volvo diesel, Ford powerstrokes, gm duramax , Detroit diesels, freight liners, mercedes diesels, macks, and Hinos. And I’m referring with full payloads. For smaller package cars, the best motor was the older generation Ford powerstroke diesels. Too much electronics nowadays to mess up Diesel engines. My two cents, good day folks and god bless.
Unless you drive like a granny with those Ecoboost engines in my experience they don't get all that great mileage. They are fun though but I know some people that have had some issues with them too. Anything they offer is better then the garbage 5.4 they used to have same with the trannys that were bolted to them.
My understanding of towing ratings is that you should try to get truck that has 20-25% towing capacity above what you plan to tow so that your not bogging it down when you're towing and you've got some room left for those hauls every now and then that are heavier than usual.
@@alpine9996 Turbos. I'm not worried. Turbo technology is far from new. Years ago I had a Saab 9000 Turbo and never had a problem with it. I think it's the excessively complex computer modules and sensors which will kill off most modern vehicles prematurely.
@@BartStar009 Well, nobody says that you need to keep the tank full if you're always near a filling station. The big tank might just save you some grief in sparsely populated areas though.
@@BartStar009 And on long trips stopping n starting burns more gas than steady driving. Or pulling a trailer.... Anyone I know who has had a big gas tank will "never" go back to smaller tank.
I talked to some Ford mechanics from different shops and they all said they have a lot more eco boost v6 motors in the shop for repairs than the coyote though.
Chevy 5.3 is all the engine anyone with a half ton ever needs. Efficient, powerful, has a great sound, lightweight. Paired with the 10 speed it’s even more excellent.
@@jaykanngiesser3454 Towedd around 6500 lbs plenty of time. No issues with power at all. Also, I spend 99% of the time not towing or towing a 2000 lb trailer, I can’t tell it’s there.
@@cintocrunch In comparison to all of the other v8's, or especially the turbo v6's in the other trucks, it lacks low end torque, in some cases it is by very large margins. Look at pretty much any towing comparison with a 5.3.
For most all of us truck owners who use them as a truck, we are willing to give up a little gas mileage for dependability. If I am making monthly payments on a vehicle and I depend on it to get me to work everyday no matter the conditions, I can't have it in the shop all the time. If I need it to make a living working out of it , I can't have it broken all the time or mistrust it or miss an appointment. If I work all week and then head out on the weekend to tow a camper or boat or have to drive a 100 miles or more to the hunt camp and carry all of my gear and supplies, I need to know it can handle the load without stressing it or taking years off the life of the truck. I was a mechanic and still do my own repairs and maintenance. I want to know that I can fix my own vehicle with available parts and simple tools. As a former mechanic that worked on a lot of turbo engines I can attest to turbo failure rates and waste gate problems. That is a dependability and longevity issue. Give me a simple non turbo V8 or inline 6 workhorse over a turbo ed 4 or V6 any day. We also prefer our torque developed in the low to mid range rpm of the engine. Winding an engine up to 4,000 rpm or higher to get power just wears them out quicker and shortens the life of the motor.
If engineers studied history or were half as smart as they think they are, they would listen to mechanics. An inline 6 cyl. engine is an awesome power plant for a truck for many reasons. Some things are just hard to improve for the purpose needed. Take an inline 6 cyl. engine and add the newer tech to it. SOHC or DOHC chain driven with VVT to increase torque and economy. If you want an optioned turbo system let the customer have it but it is up to them to decide to pay for the upgrade. If I lived in the mountains or towed through them all the time, I would opt for the turbo. If I lived in Texas or ran the heat of the desert constantly you don't want a turbo. They need to get smart and quit trying to squeeze more power out of too small of an engine for a truck. I tore them down in my job and could tell you why they failed.
@@desertdan100 sir engineers do. But the business management teams who run the companies make choices for money versus what the engineers want. Believe me I know.
@@slmjake I will give you that, but sometimes it takes back bone to inform the bean counters of the bigger picture. I recently did that on a project. First there was resistance then after two weeks of running the numbers of all of the other effects on the project they conceded. I gave them the facts of the bigger picture that they could not see because of their laser focus on one item. I have dealt with many people that will step over a dollar to pick up a dime. Sometimes you have to point out the dollar. Well off to work and Mondays are always challenging.
@@desertdan100 that is true we all need to have intestinal fortitude as I call it on the PG audience. But I was at GM for a year when engineers tried with overwhelming data and confidence to convince the Vehicle Line Executive and the business folks regarding the right tech path forward on future truck. We were confident and had data and brutally honest. Not cowards in any form. They went for near term benefits. I can tell you automotive engineers are some of the best out there but moving to aerospace sector is more evidence driven versus what the latest trend is from an ivy league business school. Anyhow enjoy your work week sir.
I have a 2017 F-150 fx4 Supercrew with the 5.0 and love it. I wish you would have mentioned the fuel tank sizes. I have the 36 gallon and would never want less. I have gone over 600 miles before stopping for gas
2019 xlt 3.5tt perfect power in the mountains and 36 gal. Nice to know we can go a long way. And those hemis will cook themselves mountain driving dodge people go to diesels if they have to go through mountains.
I have the 2019 5.0 Super Crew with 4wd, get around 20 combined. It cruises at 1400 rpm. The thing that never gets mentioned about those eco-boost engines is that they're GDI (over 1000 psi pressures), it's a V-6 that's pushed very hard to get those numbers, and the turbos won't last if you follow the computer's recommended oil changes; clean oil is the key to making them last.
I bought a 93 ranger 2.3 lt 5 sp 2wd 9 years ago as a daily work truck. I wanted something easy on gas with a bed cheap but reliable. It had 225,000 on the clock. It now has 489,000 miles and has been reliable as a hammer! Other than two hydraulic clutch issues never left me
Buy the engine that best suits your individual needs. There is a problem tho. Once you go big on displacement you never want to go back. Power, performance & sound is addictive.
The biggest difference in the base model Tundra at 35k vs the 25k base models from Ram, Ford, GM , those 25k base trucks are not only v6 trucks, they are also regular /single cab trucks , where the tundra no longer offers the single or regular cab trucks. That 35k base tundra truck is a double cab 4 door truck. Add 4dr cab and the v8 to any other brand and your at the same 35k starting price point or really close to it.
Good points! Also, the tundra comes standard with the tow package inlcuding trailer brake controller. These two options cost around $1300 on a Ford/GMC (didnt cross shop Ram). I looked at many f150s that had a $200 2" hitch installed but no actual towing package which negates all the high tow ratings that get quoted.
2008 Tacoma v6 and 2010 5.7l get the same mileage. For a 1/2 ton towing 10,000 should be across town or moving in the driveway. Get a 3/4 for 10,000 towing regularly. Tundra tows 6,000 all day at 10mpg.
Guys, you've developed a great channel here - thank you! One suggestion: for longer videos like this, add timing markers (my description, not TH-cam's) with subjects. I'm starting to see this on more channels and it's a huge timesaver for the viewer. For this video, I would want to hone in on specific engines for your feedback, rather than fishing my way through the whole hour+ for those insights. Now.. hopefully this isn't a user error on my part. If it is, I'm sure I'll hear about it in the comments. :)
No one can turn a 7 minute video into a 1 hour and 7 minute video like these guys.
Great comment.
I work in sales for Ford. If a customer has any questions or doubts about trucks, I send them to TFL. They always appreciate it. This is the reason why, honest opinion about trucks. Towing, MPG, and even talk.
I have been following you guys for a while and I appreciate you guys! Take care.
Thats weird this 2 guys didnt choose the coyote that engine its been proven and good mpg even ford mechanics voted coyote for their choice 😁🤷♂️
@@michoacanom4320 well what do you expect ford mechanics to say lol
@@bryan70546 all the mechanics i onow choose the coyote over EcoBoost even chevy fan boys will choose the coyote and are affraid when they race one 😂🤣🤭 the first thing they ask me its that a 10sp coyote? Im like yes they go naw i dont race you no more 🤣🤣😂😂
If you want turbo lag and unreliability... then a Ford engine is for you!
@@michoacanom4320 I had a 17 GT 5.0 yea I would choose it over any ford motor too. But that was the only good part about the car the rest was meh.
Love that Andre and Nathan love the 3.0L Duramax, and so do I. Back in May I purchased a 2020 Silverado LTZ Z71 4x4 with the Duramax (10 speed) with the intent of upgrading our 3,000lbs high wall pop-up camper to a travel trailer (2021 Rockwood Mini-Lite 2509S is what we purchased, great family camper under 26 feet in length). Driving around town (80% or more suburban driving), and using TFL's fill up method, I am always between 24-25 mpg between fill-ups (the truck gets better mpgs than the 06 Honda Odyessy we sold for the truck). My 50mi best mpg in Southwest Ohio on the highway showed 31.7 mpg. Towing: the 3,000lbs (probably closer to 3,400lbs when it was packed) from Southwest OH to Muskegon MI averaged 22mpgs. Towing the Rockwood Mini-lite from Southwest Oh to Cades Cove Campground in the Smokies (the hill-est parts of I-75), probably close to 6,000lbs loaded. Averaged between 11-12mpgs. Very smooth engine, great towing power (no power drop, passing other V8 trucks with trailers).
While not a Chevy guy I watched the review of the baby duramax and yes, I agree this is one of the best motors they put in a half ton truck. Power to the ground is very respectable. Decent amount of giddy up and go for a diesel, and some updates to GM’s interiors and exteriors. GM put a little thought into this one.
Emissions will kill this engines reliability
I love the Baby D-Max as well. I rolled the dice as soon as I knew it was an Inline 6. It’s been absolutely flawless.
Diesel vs gas isn't a good comparison when you're towing.
Yeah let us know when you get the bill for that stupid oil pump belt that you need to drop the tranny for needs replaced
Andre and Nathan have a smoother conversational chemistry than Roman and... well, anybody. Not dissing Roman, who is awesome for having built all the TFL channels; we all have our strengths and weaknesses. A & N simply have a rapport that make their podcasts easier to digest.
Great content, informative and entertaining. Thanks guys!
Couldn’t have said it better. More Nathan, less Roman!
Roman comes across as a douchebag 90% of the time..
Beyond bias.
No apologies.
Interesting observation , I agree.
This was a very smooth and informative conversation.
Good show guys.
Roman has to look out for the entire team as the manager and unfortunately sucks on camera. He is a good business person but not someone the audience wants to hear from, keep him behind the scenes.
True
After all the years of owning big V8s and diesels, crew cabs and double cabs..the one that outlasted them all is a nearly 20 year old Chevy manual 4.3 reg cab long bed 2wd. Literally the best truck I’ve ever had and a reminder that simple isn’t always incompetent. Happy holidays TFL crew!
375k miles and I'm an idiot who doesn't do maintenance
My coworker has one of those 4.3 5 speed Silverados. It's a giant piece of crap and it's rusting like crazy but it just keeps on going and tolerates all sorts of neglect. He drove it with like half of the instrument cluster not working for several years because he just doesn't care. It's a perfect beater truck and that's what he uses it for.
I had an boss probably 10 years ago, he had a single cab 4x4, odometer stopped working about 5 years previous, it had 255k miles on it at the time of the break. The truck runs fine to this day, so many miles that you can twist the ignition without the keys to start it.
@GMguy 0317 210k on 97 Vortec 350 and 4l60e. Towed 6.5k lbs 20ft enclosed trailer first few years, lots of unloaded highway miles, now tows 3.5k lbs14 ft enclosed trailer.
???k on 79 k10 400 th350 Both trucks original engine and trans. Both on my channel.
Right on GM Guy.
Just bought an 88 C1500, am amazed at
it’s simplicity. Affordable parts and stout build.
4.3 V6 is built like a Rock. Love it.
I have had a few GM 5.3 engines and they were all great and reliable and did the job in every situation...but, I just went to the 6.2 in a Trail Boss and I will NEVER go back to the 5.3. World of difference.
The 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 L83/84 will be better on MPG, and the 6.2L Ecotec3 V8 will be more prone to Lifter failure.
What do you like so much more about it? Do you run premium?
@@OneBadSon basically the power. It's 65 more horsepower and appx 75 more fp torque than the 5.3 but feels like twice that much. So much quicker when passing even with a load. I'm getting the same gas mileage that I was getting with the 5.3. 16.8 - 17.3 mpg. Yes, I use premium gas.
@@dubltap7216 awesome! That’s great that it’s so much more noticeable. It seems like it would b such a strong engine. Have you used regular in it at all and if so have you noticed a difference? As I understand premium is only recommended, not required, is that correct?
@@OneBadSon I haven't used regular although the dealer filled it the first time and I'm guessing they used regular. I noticed my milage went up when I filled it the first time. Yes,you can use regular but being that gas is relatively cheap right now I'm using 91.
I'm now on my seventh Ram. Six of them had/have the 5.7 Hemi engine. I have never had any problems or issues with this engine. In my case the reliability is 100 percent. I'll also admit that the E Torque makes the start/stop feature much smoother and acceptable.
I don't think I will ever have a turbo charged engine. Repairs can be frightfully expensive once the warranty has passed.
A friend of mine got 465 thousand miles out of a 03 Tundra with the 4.7 before trading it. Never any issues, just normal maintenance. It was running perfect when he swapped it.
That's very common with most full size trucks. Maybe not 400k, but I know many people with Hemi Rams, Fords (v8 and ecoboost) and Chevy v8s in excess of 200k with no problems just routine maintenance. It's why you pay more for a truck, they build them to last longer than cars.
@@pbaker7160 yeah, tons of fords, dodge and chevy around pushin 200... 400 is double that man
Poor truck most trade in trucks get send to junkyards and stripped for parts.
400k on a 4.7 toyota while not uncommon REQUIRED $4000++ in scheduled maintenance....something the domestics do not need.
The 4.6L and 5.7L went to timing chains....no scheduled changes.
When I owned my 5.7 tundra, the water pump was a common failure....the dreaded pink slime.
Toy finally stepped up and extended the warranty on the air pumps...but many people paid $3000 to fix.
People have short memories regarding the front diff bearings that will howl.
Cam covers leak, warping dash among other nagging problems.
Mine ate brake pads like candy....but for some reason, according to a tundra web site, that wasn't that common.....toy did replace the ENTIRE calipers because of bad seals....still went through pads in less than 20k miles.
I liked my Tundra....but the reliability was no better or worse than other trucks I've owned.
@@johnpeters9793 You are delusional. The domestics don't need it because they get traded before a 100k..before they fall apart
Here's tip for those who are considering the 6.2. In Canada, regular fule is 87 octain. I put octain booster in (eg. royal purple or STP) When on sale they cost $3 to 4 per bottle. Typically saves me $10 to 15 per fill up depending on gas prices and how empty my tank is. Depending on the maker the octane boost is 5-7 points
I believe the one bottle of booster you are going Putting in, although it says x points, it takes 10 to raise it one octane so it’s still more pricy
@@Jeff-gf1vr agree, he needs to do some research on octane booster. It’s a gimmick.
I would talk to independent shops. Those mechanics work on all makes unlike a dealership, And will give it to you straight.
I've worked with a lot of mechanics from all walks of life. African, Mexican, etc who own independent shops and they always recommend a Toyota truck. It sucks that they are so expensive but its worth it for me. I'll just save up for a new Tacoma.
Mechanics will be like “get a dodge”. And then do money rubbing hands when you turn around. Lmao
@@gjolinares23 mechanics put their kids through college based on doge truck repairs.
I bought a 2017 Silverado Z71 with 5.3 brand new. All maintenance done, top tier fuel, never abused, and has 79k Miles. Since July 2021 it’s had AC compressor replaced, oil leak fixed, and is currently in the shop having all the lifters replaced and torque converter replaced. Very disappointed.
My 2017 Sierra was horrible, cylinder 4 misfire bad
Check no GMC/Chevy
Same here on 2013 with 60k. Had to replace engine at 89k for 6k.
@@eddieboss5934 yep. Traded mine for ‘21 F150 Ecoboost 2 months ago. The day I got it out of the shop
I’ve owned a 5.3L. Never again. I was always having to fill it with oil while topping it off with gas. Now, I own the 5.0 Coyote and I absolutely love it. I’ll eventually go to the new Powerboost. But, for now, I’m still loving this 5.0 Coyote.
I had a 5.3 in my 08, I hated it. Same situation as you, underpowered, adding oil. Drove GM for years. 85 GMC with a 350, 99 with a 4.8 (Great truck), 05 with a 4.8, good truck just felt underpowered compared to my 99. Had a 16 HD with a 6.0 and loved it, ran flawlessly, but very poor fuel mileage. Now I have my 3.5 ecoboost and love everything about it. Seems that more and more people switching to Ford nowadays. I can see why.
@@bigf1502 My 5.3L was on a 2007 GMC Sierra 4WD crew cab. And, it started burning oil the day I drove it home from the dealership. I would have to add 2-3 quarts of Mobil 1, at least, between every oil change and the dealership claimed it was “normal”. And, for a truck with 315 HP, I was only able to get 16 mpg (mostly highway driving). But, my 5.0L (with a few mods) has well over 400 HP and gets 16.5 mpg, and that’s with a lead foot because as you know, whether 5.0L or EcoBeast, they’re fun to drive!
yep rock solid. my 2011 water pump been done twice, one manifold done, now other one is noisy when cold... and now getting lifter rattle... gotta get some engine honey. and it has 84,000kms on it... not even 50k. Great little engines.
Should have got the 6.2. Almost identical fuel economy, no oil use and waay more power!
My 2007 Yukon Xl 5.3 was so bad it turned a lifetime GM guy to a Ram 1500. The Ram has almost 100 more horse power, gets 2-4 mpg better local and up to 24mpg highway. The Yukon never got more than 18 highway. I did a 4300 mile trip loaded bed from NJ to Steamboat Springs Co and averaged 21.5 with speeds up to 90 for hours at a time on Route 80. So far at 97k the Ram is the most reliable vehicle I have owned. This is also with a leveling kit and 33’s.
TFL needs another channel. The Affordable Lane.
What would the content be? 20 year old used Buicks lol!
If you knew what you were doing, how long would it take you?
That's aka "The breakdown lane".
Just watch their three and four year old reviews and buy those trucks. That's what I do.
Read the editorial in Car and Driver, Inside the Bubble.
For us poor people my 98 dodge pick up is on 300k miles n still running strong the best 318 n for chevy is the 05 silverado have 305k on that 5.3l 327ci n also running strong
Yes, my son’s 98 dodge is running with over 300,000 miles on it. The rear seal needs changed and it does have its share of electrical issues. But hey...over 300,000 miles!
Nathan isn't alone, the 2.7L ecoboost is the most purchased engine for the F-150. The tow ratings are hampered by the lighter duty 8.8 axle in most of the 2.7s and 5.0s that limit their GVWRs. The reality is that no one really tows more than 9,000lbs with a half ton truck, mostly due to lateral stability of the shorter wheelbases and lower weight compared to 3/4 and 1 tons. The 2.7 is MORE than capable of towing 9,000 lbs, and is physically the most heavily built gas motor Ford has beside the 7.3. Paired with the 9.75 rear end, it will more confidently tow than the 5.0, and deliver similar loaded efficiency, all whilst not consuming gallons of oil like the 5.0. It's the manic personality, even from low rpm, and the buttery smoothness that gets most people. The only thing that I plead with Ford to do is to expand the availability of the 2.7 payload package that gives the 9.75 rear end, beyond the XL trim. We know it's your best engine, YOU know it's your best engine (they put it in everything now) why aren't you letting it do it's best in the F-150?
The F150 is the best #1 selling truck in the United States
Best comment…my 2.7 blows every truck I’ve owned out of water. It’s sooooo smooth and powerful. It’s a beast!
Found the funniest comments here.
The 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 L83/84 solid engine with the 6/8/10 speed transmission we have 2019 Silverado Trail-Boss 27813 miles / 2021 GMC Yukon XL AT4 3620 Miles 31433 Miles total. We had a 2015 Chevrolet Suburban LT Z71 with the 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 L83 and it went 223,632 miles of tire changes/ oil-changes and just usual upkeep. To be said the 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 L83/84 is one heck of a solid bulletproof engine.
Gm’s 5.3 is the most fuel efficient V8, is tried and true, very reliable, parts are cheap and has enough power for 90% of people buying them. Just my opinion...
It's not really tried and true, the new 5.3 has nothing in common with the older 5.3's.
@@daniels2761 they are made better now duh
Only thing better is the GM 6.2
Tundra 5.7. Shit fuel economy but will take you to 500k miles. Followed by Toyota 4.7 more durable less powerful
But their transmission is junk
What ford needs to make is the 2.7L ecoboost ford engine, with a larger electic motor, in a plug in hybrid configuration. It would would be the ultimate engine combination for inner city use, especially for efficiency. It would do great for highway towing, and have great durability, because of the compacted graphite iron block. This block is built much like a diesel engine block. They could also configure the engine to be able to use multiple fuel types. No manufacturer could compete with a truck like that.
The 5.0 with a dealer added supercharger around 600 hp with warranty would be the the best in my opinion.
I have a 2019 Sierra 5.3 with the 8 speed. So far have about 21000 miles on it, been the best engine and the 8 speed no complaints, it is so smooth I don't even notice that it is shifting. I must have got a truck that was put together on a good day. Also in the city I live the city uses a lot of GMC sierras as their fleet trucks for many years so that must say a lot for dependability.
I just bought a 2021 Ford F150 with the 2.7L Ecoboost and I absolutely love this engine. I had the first gen 3.5 Ecoboost and its was very good to me but I never needed all the power which is why I picked the 2.7 for my new truck. Driving around I'm getting about 21mpg which is far better then my 3.5 was getting plus I have the extended range fuel tank(36 gal) on my new truck so my range is massively improved. Overall I'm extremely happy with my purchase.
The F-150 with the 2.7 is probably the best all-around vehicle in America.
It tows about 8K, carries 5 in comfort, gets good mileage (mine is 20 MPG over 40K so far), and has plenty of power to get out of its own way.
If I need to move more than four tons worth of stuff, I can rent a vehicle for a day or two. Way cheaper than the upcharge for the 3.5, 5.0, or 3.0.
And it looks good (being fair, most modern trucks look pretty good) doing it.
36 tank sounds nice.
The question is how long you'll love it for, I don't see those getting 400k on em
No exhaust either on that. V8s are going away and it's sad
@@carpetlite22 Buy one while you can…. ….the latest ones get decent mileage, and their durability seems to be pretty good, as well.
Once you have proven reliability and mileage with low emissions, you just need to make them more versatile and meet people's needs.
Old or ancient vehicles are so good people restore them and it's worth it.
Like your house, you repair it and add to it.
You don't tear it down all the time and keep changing it.
The promises of amazing economy and power with versatility are the one to build.
Some of the best houses or most coveted are built right and very old. They have also been restored or repaired and are valued for giving even more than they were designed for originally.
These promises of fuel mileage have always resulted in the customer saying wow, I could had a v8
I love my 2.7 F150. I can tow my RV and when I'm not I get great MPG. In sport mode it's pretty quick. I have to watch myself or I'll hit 80 and not even realize.
Same have to put it in eco mode on the street to avoid speeding
I love my 2020 f150 with the coyote v8, test drove all 3 engines and couldn't resist the character and soul of the v8, no replacement for displacement lol
I drive a 2017 Ford F150 with a 5.0 V8 which so far has been a good truck so far .
@@buckgonsalvez384 yeah this was my first f150, I plan on doing the ford performance extreme exhaust and the fox 2.0 suspension kit from ford performance as well, should be awesome! Good luck with yours!
@@thehumungus1985 Thanks Buddy same goes to you as well ! CHEERS ...
Unless you want more pulling power and speed! People that hate the ecoboost have never usually ever driven one until that happens you just have no idea how good they are!
@@coryu2403 if you watch the poll taken by Town and Country Ford of their mechanics it was 9-2 for the V8. It’s much more reliable and easier to repair. Just saying 🤷♂️
As long as they make a 5.3 Chevy or gmc that’s what I will have. Easy 400000 mile engine have done on 4 different vehicles, and worked them hard towing.
07 plus shit lifters left and right.
Can you guys do an episode on how TFL started and how you guys meet!???
I have had great luck with my 2014 Ram ecodiesel and no issues and 140K on this unit. It has been a great truck.
Has it been deleted?
I have a 2020 5.0 with 3.73 gears, OZ Omaga tune and run on E85. That thing rips.
Slightly disappointed that there was no mention of repair per 100 produced. Usually I like how durable an engine is
My guess per 100 the number is less than 1. Also new engines don’t have reliability histories.
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Here's the scoop: ANY engine with active fuel management has had problems. The Ram 5.7 has had some issues but in general is a good engine. The Ford Ecoboost turbos tend to fail and leak oil as they pass 100k miles . I haven't heard anything about the GM 4 cylinder turbo as of yet so jury is out. Bottom line... Any V8 without active fuel management from any of the big 3 is solid, same goes for the V6's. The GM4.3 is traditionally bulletproof... although not a powerhouse for trucks...but comparted to V8 engines of yesteryear it surprisingly matches up (HP, Torque, towing) to those legacy engines quite well.
@@ahighervibe4086 while the engines may not last as long. They can Definitely tow alot more and way more fuel efficient and easy to maintain than the older trucks. The cost of engine will pay for itself in the savings of fuel. Sorry 10 to 15 mpg is not acceptable
@@ghostlegit you say that but you will have to buy a used engine with 150k for that to be true otherwise my price as a service manager at a dealership for a Remanufactured engine is bare minimum $3200 for just the motor and with your general engine job parts(plugs, thermostat, water pump, and a few gaskets that don’t come with the reman) along with labor, your going to be paying $5500 at least. So no the 1 mpg is not worth it. But if you get the cylinder deactivation disablers you get rid of the oiling issues and have a good reliable engine.
I f I were to give my top picks for 1/2 ton trucks.
If I were to give a award for the most reliable engine it would go to the Tundra 5.7L
If I were to give an award for best new engine on the market it would be the new 3.0L Duramax.
Other great engines are the GM 6.2L , and the Ford 5.0L , Hemi 5.7L. All great engines.
I have towed about 8k lbs travel trailer with the tundra. The engine is very capable with powerful motor and 4:30 rear end towing was easy. Some of these trucks have higher towing numbers but definitely cannot tow as well as the tundra. I drive a suburban as a daily driver and while it can tow 8k it definitely will not do it without lots of full throttle in the mountains. The Tundra pulls up grades no problem. The suspension on the tundra empty stiff, loaded fantastic.
Too bad you have to plan your vacation around the location of gas stations, empty or loaded
@@paulhunter9613 especially if you are towing and have the smaller tank. The fuel gauge was changing so fast my first reaction was is it broken. Then I remembered it’s a Toyota it’s not broken just thirsty.
I don't tow nothing and I'm happy with my 3.3 ford v6 6 speed. No problems and I'm a Ford guy. 2019.
Straight six is where it's at. Ford should make a turbo gasoline straight six again.
I rrally think Ford should have put a clean-sheet turbo inline 6 in the new Bronco. Or something really out of the ordinary like a inline 7 or inline 9 (also turboed).
Best engine is an inline 6
Worst engine is an inline 3
I think powernationtv or such just did a Ford 300 turbo build. Awesome old school flashback
Something like the Mazda Toyota project in process. 3 liter and 300v system hybrid to power accessories. Keeps overall length down
Cost is why they don’t.
Still love my 1st gen 3.5l ecoboost and I am over 220k miles
Same.
I put a tune on my 1st gen, runs strong 💪 90k on it
Wow you got lucky, mine has been a total disaster. In the shop for the 12th time.
Bought a 2020 Chevy 1500 Silverado 4x4 with the 5.3 L and 8-speed transmission in MAY 2020. No issues so far with the transmission and the engine has been surprisingly pleasant. Just bought an MBRP middle side exit exit to give it a little "sound". Great video guys!
My brothers’ truck same year and powertrain with 72k the transmission just went down.. wishing you better luck
I’ve got a 2012 crew cab like your but it only has a 6 speed. I live in Alaska and it is geared lower for pulling. Face it we don’t use cruise control up here and hills are common.it only has 46 thousand on it but no issues and we pulled a camp trailer from New Hampshire to here a year after I got it. I got an old beater 98 Extended cab 2500HD. It’s got 170 thousand with no issues.
2015 Silverado here and transmission went at 100k .
I have a 2020 f150 xl with 3.3l long box with vinyl interior only option is power window and locks. Great basic everyday work truck, love it. I don't tow much, but it will tow everything I need. The big three are very good at marketing and getting people to buy thing thee don't need. Especially in the 1/2 ton pickup market. Think about what you really do before you buy.
I have 17' F150 with a 3.5 eco, great motor and have ordered the new F150 with the 3.5 powerboost with the 7.2kw power pk. can't wait. I feel like Ralphie and his dream of getting a Red Ryder, Carbine Action 200 round BB gun.
Truck of the year
Tundra TRD Pro Truck + 3.5TT PowerBoost and 10speed Auto + RAM air suspension + RAM infotainment + GM auto 4WD + Jeep front and rear Lockers = my perfect truck
GM auto 4wd? Is this new? Did they come up with the auto 4wd?
GMs auto 4x4 is not new, it has been around for over a decade. I have it on my 2006 and it's been nothing but trouble (been fixed 4 times in 9 years). I'd prefer a lever or even a lockable fulltime 4x4 system over it. Or just a reliable electronic system like Toyota's.
Matthew, I have to disagree. I think the ZF8 Ram uses is a much better option than the Ford/GM 10 speed. That said, Ram air suspension, Ford Powerboost, and GM style 4x4 would totally ruin the reliability and simplicity of the Toyota chassis. I think the Ram TRX is ideal. Huge power, great transmission, Dana 60 rear end with locker, Bilstien suspension, and that nice Ram interior.
Oh ! So you want a Power Wagon with a diesel and Auto 4WD? 🤣
get a tremor or ZR2. case closed. air suspensions don't work well in cold climates.
5.7 3URFE hands down! One of the upmost reliable engines made!
Has its own issues though.
This guy says, "UPMOST"
6.2L
If your interested in a titan i suggest you talk to a body and frame shop just fixed one and the frames are light weight.
2018 f150 xlt 2.7L 6.5 foot 2 wheel drive (bought new). 31 mpg with a light foot on the interstate. 10 mpg at 70 mph pulling 6500 pound rv. 16 mpg pulling 6500 pound rv at 60.
Ask yourself, toyota’s 5.7 is so ancient yet it scores the highest resell value and reliability ratings year after year while others are constantly changing. toyota’s QDR is impressive built in San Antonio Texas.
You should ask yourself why it costs so much for that ancient truck
@@paulhunter9613 Simply because it's much better than the Detroit 3. Read all the independent surveys.
The hemi is another Dino that is well loved. Comes in behind the toyota.
Dependable sure. But a dependable vehicle that drives poorly and seats are like stone. Add the generational boring looks. Is it REALLY a value ?
Not in most worlds. 😂
@@daleo7355 Totality disagree. Had the competition and the Tundra out shines them all. Try one you will agree too!
After owning all 3 domestic brands over the years, my 96 and 98 C/K 1500 Extended Cab 2 and 4 wheel drive trucks were the most reliable. Both trucks had the 5.0L Vortec 305 engine. That's just my personal experience. After that, I had pretty good luck with a 2000 Expedition with the 5.4L Triton. Currently, I'm the owner of my second Infiniti QX80 and the 5.6L has been awesome. No issues at all and normal maintenance.
What year is your Infiniti? I'm curious about the 2ND gen Titans v8.
@@SlickSmooth84 It's a 2016, but we bought it used in 2021. Just went over a hundred thousand miles about 3 months back. I've only had to replace one coil. No issues at all and just normal maintenance. It's a beast of an engine, but the fuel mileage is terrible, which you probably already know. However, it's been my favorite gas burning engine out of all that I've ever owned. Strong, fast, pulls hard and just keeps going. I run 0w-20 in it just as a side note.
Unpopular: The Chevy 2.7L Turbo with 348 pounds of torque, 20+ mpg, 9,000+ towing and 2,000+ payload is all the truck you need. I love it
Do you still love it? It’s the 4 cylinder right?
Picking up a Chevy Trail Boss with the 5.3 liter/10 speed combo on Monday. Thanks TFL for justifying my decision with every review you guys have done on that truck. It really does check a lot of boxes.
www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/gm-vortec-class-action-lawsuit-engines.shtml
Cancel the order and go test drive the Tundra. You won't regret it 10 years from now
@@rbmoose22 did you read the article? 2010-2014. I had a 2016, not one issue.
@@freeravenadventures6925 hell nah 2019 tundras don’t have a transmission cooler. I honestly find that stupid.
@@rbmoose22 ouch!
5.7 Hemi seems like a really nice well balanced middleground of all these different aspects. Not the most reliable, but more reliable than most. Moderate price, likes 89 fuel but can run on 87 (doesn't need 91/93) nice HP and torque numbers, not the most powerful but more powerful than most. Has a great sound, solid fuel efficiency (especially for its size), nice acceleration, really good towing capability. Just an excellent all-purpose all-rounder.
The 6.2 is close but it getting slightly worse gas milage AND needing the premium fuel hurts. The 3.5 Powerboost is close too but very expensive and not quite as reliable.
Hemi is my choice, from the gasers at least. Diesel I'm not familiar enough with.
"Hemi" is a modern day name gimmick
Got 18 Ram 1500 love it rides good 3.92 gears with 93 octane get 21.5 out of it in V8 mode pull my 10000. Lbs camper no issues
Love my HEMI 57. A shame there ending it for TT6 Hurricane. Will run hotter and faster and that means shorter life with our that HEMI rumble
I have an 03 S10 with that 4.3. My daily driver. Love that truck. Bulletproof.
Concerned with cylinder deactivation with the GM 5.3 and now Ford's 5.0.
"The best" to me is the most reliable.
I want a Tundra HD.
Toyota Tundra is the best.
you can buy a module to deactivate the cylinder deactivation, and theyre past the worst of it which was 08-12 or 13....when it was REALLY bad. even then, people repaired them without the afm and they last forever (3+k though)
@@ryanwooden8839 I couldn’t agree more! I don’t want the tundra to change 😒
Toyota is having fuel pump issues. With a pending lawsuit.
@@Tiovergudo every company has them but Toyota is significantly more reliable than others
2nd 5.3v 8. ‘08 Yukon, 178K. Sold it to my mechanic. His wife now drives it. I bought the ‘20 Chevy Silverado, 5.3v8. I like this engine
My new favorite podcast! My wife hates it because I need a new truck everytime I watch!
My 96 suburban k2500 7.4 original 220k miles runs perfect no tick uses no oil no leaks pulls anything trans and drivetrain work smoothly if you can find one buy it.
Drove a 2003 F-150 5.4 320k. No engine issues but I did do ball joints, front wheel bearings and universal joints. Overall I was super happy with it and still got 6k trade in. 2018 now 5.0 so far so good but only 65k.
This is my 8 GMC truck I've own ...The last 2 were 5.3 L..2006...and now 2018..I have no complaints to make about the 5.3 at all.. Great on gas and lots of torque,,
Well over all the years I’ve been using trucks for towing the best reliability I’ve ever had is with the Ford I know some other people may of had other results but in my industry it’s the best so far for me
I have owned several Ford and Chevrolet trucks. I’ve owned a couple of Dodgers. I recently bought the Toyota tundra 1794, because the I force V8 from Toyota has more trucks out there with a half 1,000,000 miles on them and even up to 1,000,000 miles on them than any other truck. I was willing to pay for more gas to have that type of longevity. Also, if you trade trucks often, the resale value on Ford Chevrolet and Dodge doesn’t quite compare to Toyota. Regardless, all the trucks out there are pretty decent and happy truck driving.
I've owned the 2.7 Ecoboost paired with the 10 speed transmission and I have to say I actually miss my F-150 FX4. I've owned Ram, Chevy, Toyota, etc... There are things I liked and disliked about all of them, but that 2.7 was soooooo much fun!
2.7 is best by far…don’t knock it till you try it
I have owned a 5.3L V8 from GM, I have owned a 5.4L V8 with a Ford, I have owned a 5.7L V8, and even a 3.5L ecoboost over the last 20 years, and handss by down the Toyota iForce 5.7L V8 for reliability and power has been my favorite.
Not only that its cruising drivability is the best as well. Its a great cruising motor.
If you’re concerned about buying a truck.
I have a silverado trailboss 2019 5.3 and bought it because of your reviews (bought in 2019) and absolutely love it. I have over 50 thousand miles and no issues with it at all. I have upgraded it airintake exhaust ect. I've thought of trading it in but there really is no reason for me to do so. Thanks for great videos and advice!!
I bought a Yukon new in 03. 20 years and 300k miles later i still have it no major issues and may go another 300k. It is a work truck and has been abused so i can honestly tell you it's a very good engine.
True there is no locker in a Tundra Pro but the Auto LSD and Atrac are very capable.I have a Tacoma Off Road and I’ve only used the locker twice because of the LSD/Atrac prowess.
zero excuses for no front and rear lockers when competition has it. Tremor and ZR2
I have a 14 Raptor and a 07 Titan, so if I'm sad I start my Raptor and if I'm really sad I start both and stand in between. But for my future its the 3.5 hybrid after a couple of years of bugs.
Best is the 5.7 I-Force in the Toyota Tundra. Sadly no longer available. Not the most fuel efficient, but you can pass a lot of garage bays. That pays for a lot of gas! I Had a 2010, ran 370,000K, got my 2021 last October, the end of line for the 5.7 V8. Hope I have as many trouble free miles.
My 1996 F250 has the 300 inline 6, which i consider the absolutely the greatest engine ever put in ANY truck PERIOD!!!! No manufacture has ever put a engine like the Ford 4.9L in a truck, EVER! A person that has the 4.9 will never live long enough to wear it out if proper maintenance is done on it, AKA mobil110W30, mobil1 filter, and change coolant every 2-3 years. I would have no worries to jump in it and drive it coast to coast at any time!
That 300 inline was a great one, but sorry the 4.7 Toyota beats it.
Timing belt is the weakness of the 4.7 . If you do not change it, bye bye engine.
The best for me is my 3.5 TT, fuel economy and brutal power is unmatched. Mine's dependable, people I know with them haven't had problems. As Nathan says the 3.5 TT is "Crazy Poweful", and that is true, every 3.5 TT owner I know, including myself says, "the power is scary".
Yup hemis around here know to mine their manners around 3.5tt Ruby😎
powerboost is even more powerful
Toyota 4.7 and the 5.7. No contest. The Chevy 5.3 is also fantastic.
@ absolutely. The new 5.3 doesn’t compare to the old one unfortunately but it’s still solid. Cylinder deactivation hurts it’s reliability.
6.2 with a 10 speed auto is absolutely superb 💪
Not as superb as a 3.5EB with a 10-speed.💪💪💪💪
@@tedschmitt178 the 3.5 mated to a 10 speed is a great combo. I’ll take a GM interior and ride any day of the week. Naturally aspirated power in my opinion is superior with delivery. If I bought a Ford, which I considered in the buying process, it would be the 5.0 mated to a 10 speed auto. I’ve owned 2 of the Coyote generations in the Mustang. Absolutely wonderful power plant
@@darrin2053 I have a 5.0 with the 10 speed only because I couldn’t locate one with the 3.5 equipped like I wanted (2WD STX). I tow a camper which weighs ~6200 pounds, and the 5.0 needs to be revved much more. The 3.5 is effortless with more weight, especially going uphill.
@@tedschmitt178 I have had both. 6.2 has such a long reliability hx. But the eco is a beast. Both superb
@@tedschmitt178 effortless is the correct word
FORD 300 Straight Six w/EFI (last models made)
unreal how reliable they are. change the oil... 300k mi, low end torque, and just go. 302 were a damn good option too, and i gotta hand it a bit to the 4.6 as well.... pretty indestructable... did have a few spark plug spitting out issues but not as bad as the 5.4!!!
Best Ford engine ever made.
Had a 1994 f150
300k and sold it to a contractor
One water pump and 3 starters
Top speed 85 lol
From everything I've read, heard, etc over the years...the 5.7 iForce in Toyotas from 2007 to like 2022 are one of the best of all time as far as reliability.
I think transmission is more Important
I've heard that the heaver duty Ram trucks now use the ZF8 speed and that its
a very reliable trans.
@@mark98070 just the gas engines get the 8speed. And yes its a awesome trans
Yeah, transmission is a huge issue.
When a truck had a clutch pedal, you didn't have to worry about it.
Just a rebuild kit for these Alison transmissions are cost prohibitive
“You know it really comes down to the prices at the end of the day cause I’m cheap”
Yeah... I felt that
Buy once, Cry once.
No, you're frugal. At least that's what I tell my wife.
I'm running a 2017 1500 Silverado Z71 with a 6.2L and an 8-speed. It is rock solid and pulls our trailer just fine. Only two clogged injectors before 10,000 miles replaced under warranty. Has run beautifully ever since. Just touch the accelerator and it takes off like a shot. Gets a good steady 21 - 22 mpg at 65 - 70 mph and 12-14 mpg towing our 25 ft trailer across the flats and 10 mpg climbing steep hills. Rock solid and doesn't get hot. No complaints.
Thinking about going up to a Silverado 2500HD with the Duramax and 10 speed so we can pull bigger trailers in the mountains but the prices make my heart seize up! Yikes! One properly set up for bumper pull and/or a 5th-wheel running in the low- to mid-60s. Whew! A bit steep for me.
@@robertcolpitts4534 my girlfriends uncle pulls a fifth wheel toy hauler (somewhere in the low 40’s feet long) and just upgraded to a Denali 3500 HD 6.6 Duramax. Said he spent around 80-90 on it. My heart about dropped, I can’t imagine spending near 100k on a truck
@@1k59j1 - Those are all blinged out (techno-bling, that is). Just a basic truck with some bling in the HD series runs $58K to $62K, $10K of which is in the Duramax.
Tundra 5.7 iForce V8. Great power, Superior build quality, runs forever. Bulletproof. Add on the TRD dual exhaust and the sound is amazing. Toyota moto: "if it aint broke, dont fix it". The big 3 truck brands are always broke, so they keep trying to fix them and mask thier poor build quality with an over abundance of disposable electronics, tech and 15 different engine options.
You are right on the money.
Love my 5.7
It may have the worst gas mileage of all 1/2 tons, but I'll take that with the reliability that the Tundra brings.
Do you want to know why you hear more about the big three and recalls that they have ? It’s because they sell more than three trucks a year. Toyota is irrelevant now and it’s there own fault. There are tons of Fords and Chevys and Rams on the road, that have 0 issues with very happy owners.
@@Matts000 Here's what I know. My bud has a 2006 Tacoma with 270 thousand miles. No major repairs ever done. My aunt had a Toyota T100 with 310 thousand miles on the clock when she got rid of it. No major repairs (got rid of it cause she retired and moved into town truck still ran perfect). My uncle has owned a 1/2 from every major manufacturer and when he switched to Toyota he stopped switching brands. He totaled his Tundra when he got ran off the road a couple years ago and immediately purchased another one without even looking at anything else.
The lightest truck would be the Ford F150 Regular Cab Short Bed (6.5'), which is a combination no one else still offers. Add in the aluminum body and use the 2.7T motor with a tune and it will be FAST and efficient. I think i calculated the 4x4 version to be 4600 lbs. I am very tempted by that combination
You can also get the regular cab F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost which makes it a sleeper hot rod truck.
@@97I30T 3.5 EB not available in a short box. The real sleeper is the 400hp 5.0 std cab short box FTW.
LM2 for me,.. rolling the dice on the small diesel,..
"...we towed so hard it grew 2 feet..." "...losses mpg just sitting there..." Great wit. Gave me a chuckle!
I’ve watched this video twice now and simply love how you both naturally and efficiently walk us through all of the engine/power train options available in the truck market. Very well done. Looking forward to listening/watching and learning more from you both.
5.7 Liter--350 CID is One of the Best Engines ever Made for any Vehicle--as Grandma use to Say--Proof is in the Pudding!!!
A good motor with a ton of aftermarket accessories. I'd rank the 5.9 Cummins as the best engine ever put in a production, passenger vehicle, with the 7.3 powerstroke, 22re and the various LS engines as good runners up.
Just wait until the sprocket on the camshaft goes out of timing and the engine blows up. Because the Ecodiesel engine , the camshaft and sprocket doesn't have anything else to hold it in time other than the bolt .
Hey, one little thing about mid size trucks.
My dad has (almost had) a chevy colorado V6. We towed and hawled a lot, we might have abused it a couple times and we almost consistently tow around the limits it has. It broke at 200k km (about 125k miles).
Engine can't be re built, it destroyed the crankshaft, cilinders, pistons, etc. We always make maintenance on time or shortly after (reasonably), we are always on top of it, every week we check levels, we are on top of the fuel economy to know if it needs maintenance before time, we fix everything...
It is the 3.6L vvt, same as camaro v6 and many cadillacs. Don't buy 3.6 for the long term! On the other side, z71 suspension is awesome, hasn't been touched once and it still is like brand new (remember we tow, hawl and use it off road consistently, as well as a lot of highway and city driving).
I wonder if the silverado trailboss with that z71 sus will survive the long run with us.
I have a 2001 Explorer sport Trac with 295000+ on it the 4.0 cologne engine has towed it's max rating and was a daily driver for years starting to rust some underneath but is still in great shape,I drive it occasionally and will keep it!
Really good engine 👌
Might be a good engine but irrelavent to the post about trucks
Nissan v8 all the way. Simple, great power, longevity, great warranty and decent fuel mileage.
I will buy Tundra, but my must have set up is Crew Cab with 6,4’ bed. So far I love my 1500 Ram.
Just picked up a 2010 Ram 1500 trx4 with the 5.7 L Hemi. LOVING THIS MOTOR. I've read a couple articles stating that they have no problem averaging 300,000 miles out of these motors. Bought mine with 100,000 in a rust free very clean truck.
I have a '98 Ram 1500 with the old 5.9 Magnum engine that I bought at a Sheriff's auction for $500. The transmission had to be rebuilt as it was blown, (also some minor body damage as it looked like they used a pit maneuver to stop it) but that was 15 years ago and I've been driving it ever since. I've put over 200K on it myself. The engine has been rock solid. It passed 300K awhile back without any engine related issues whatsoever. It is a bit of a gas hog, but it has never let me down. If I were in the market for a new truck today, that 5.7 Hemi would probably be my top pick.
Love my Ram 5.7 2019. Rides like an old caddy or Lincoln but has get up and go with a deep roar. Change that oil frequently and don't leave it idling over 15 minutes and it last I've read. Gets great mileage with the 8/4 cylinder deactivation.
I would have liked to hear if you had any problems with any of the engines. I know you guys won’t put out bad advertisement on any of these auto makers but a honest review on engine reliability would be nice
I bought a brand new 2019 Silverado half ton custom 4x4 5.3L with tow package 6speed for 36k$ during the pandemic. Added the afm/dod bypass chip and she shifts smoothly. Running 87 octane for normal use. My truck costed less at price point than my wife’s suv! Drove up to Sacramento on one tank of gas averaging 23 mpg from northern LA not pulling a trailer. Final price with tax, license, and finance is 46.5k. Still expensive but affordable in today’s economy. Best bet is to buy a used loaded vehicle if your budget is different. My work truck is a 26 ton Cummins turbo diesel and it’s the best motor in the fleet hands down reliability and fuel economy. Beats the Ford f450 7.3 gas motor, Volvo diesel, Ford powerstrokes, gm duramax , Detroit diesels, freight liners, mercedes diesels, macks, and Hinos. And I’m referring with full payloads. For smaller package cars, the best motor was the older generation Ford powerstroke diesels. Too much electronics nowadays to mess up Diesel engines. My two cents, good day folks and god bless.
I have owned a ecoboost powered f 150 and now have a 5.0, i average two mpg better with the v8
Unless you drive like a granny with those Ecoboost engines in my experience they don't get all that great mileage. They are fun though but I know some people that have had some issues with them too. Anything they offer is better then the garbage 5.4 they used to have same with the trannys that were bolted to them.
said no one ever
My understanding of towing ratings is that you should try to get truck that has 20-25% towing capacity above what you plan to tow so that your not bogging it down when you're towing and you've got some room left for those hauls every now and then that are heavier than usual.
Brakes are important and heavier is the way to go.
I've been happy with the dual injection 2.7L EcoBoost. Lots of power and excellent mileage. The range with the 36 gallon tank is exemplary.
with the 36 gallon tank you're hauling around the extra weight of fuel decreasing gas mileage
Until the turbo dies
@@alpine9996 Turbos. I'm not worried. Turbo technology is far from new. Years ago I had a Saab 9000 Turbo and never had a problem with it. I think it's the excessively complex computer modules and sensors which will kill off most modern vehicles prematurely.
@@BartStar009 Well, nobody says that you need to keep the tank full if you're always near a filling station. The big tank might just save you some grief in sparsely populated areas though.
@@BartStar009
And on long trips stopping n starting burns more gas than steady driving.
Or pulling a trailer....
Anyone I know who has had a big gas tank will "never" go back to smaller tank.
I talked to some Ford mechanics from different shops and they all said they have a lot more eco boost v6 motors in the shop for repairs than the coyote though.
Chevy 5.3 is all the engine anyone with a half ton ever needs. Efficient, powerful, has a great sound, lightweight. Paired with the 10 speed it’s even more excellent.
Until you hook onto a trailer. Then it’s an under powered slug.
@@jaykanngiesser3454 Towedd around 6500 lbs plenty of time. No issues with power at all. Also, I spend 99% of the time not towing or towing a 2000 lb trailer, I can’t tell it’s there.
Oh gawd I'm a Chevy guy, but the 5.3 is horrible
@@thewireman134 care to justify or provide more information?
@@cintocrunch In comparison to all of the other v8's, or especially the turbo v6's in the other trucks, it lacks low end torque, in some cases it is by very large margins. Look at pretty much any towing comparison with a 5.3.
For most all of us truck owners who use them as a truck, we are willing to give up a little gas mileage for dependability. If I am making monthly payments on a vehicle and I depend on it to get me to work everyday no matter the conditions, I can't have it in the shop all the time. If I need it to make a living working out of it , I can't have it broken all the time or mistrust it or miss an appointment. If I work all week and then head out on the weekend to tow a camper or boat or have to drive a 100 miles or more to the hunt camp and carry all of my gear and supplies, I need to know it can handle the load without stressing it or taking years off the life of the truck. I was a mechanic and still do my own repairs and maintenance. I want to know that I can fix my own vehicle with available parts and simple tools. As a former mechanic that worked on a lot of turbo engines I can attest to turbo failure rates and waste gate problems. That is a dependability and longevity issue. Give me a simple non turbo V8 or inline 6 workhorse over a turbo ed 4 or V6 any day. We also prefer our torque developed in the low to mid range rpm of the engine. Winding an engine up to 4,000 rpm or higher to get power just wears them out quicker and shortens the life of the motor.
Concur sir!
If engineers studied history or were half as smart as they think they are, they would listen to mechanics. An inline 6 cyl. engine is an awesome power plant for a truck for many reasons. Some things are just hard to improve for the purpose needed. Take an inline 6 cyl. engine and add the newer tech to it. SOHC or DOHC chain driven with VVT to increase torque and economy. If you want an optioned turbo system let the customer have it but it is up to them to decide to pay for the upgrade. If I lived in the mountains or towed through them all the time, I would opt for the turbo. If I lived in Texas or ran the heat of the desert constantly you don't want a turbo. They need to get smart and quit trying to squeeze more power out of too small of an engine for a truck. I tore them down in my job and could tell you why they failed.
@@desertdan100 sir engineers do. But the business management teams who run the companies make choices for money versus what the engineers want. Believe me I know.
@@slmjake I will give you that, but sometimes it takes back bone to inform the bean counters of the bigger picture. I recently did that on a project. First there was resistance then after two weeks of running the numbers of all of the other effects on the project they conceded. I gave them the facts of the bigger picture that they could not see because of their laser focus on one item. I have dealt with many people that will step over a dollar to pick up a dime. Sometimes you have to point out the dollar. Well off to work and Mondays are always challenging.
@@desertdan100 that is true we all need to have intestinal fortitude as I call it on the PG audience. But I was at GM for a year when engineers tried with overwhelming data and confidence to convince the Vehicle Line Executive and the business folks regarding the right tech path forward on future truck. We were confident and had data and brutally honest. Not cowards in any form. They went for near term benefits. I can tell you automotive engineers are some of the best out there but moving to aerospace sector is more evidence driven versus what the latest trend is from an ivy league business school. Anyhow enjoy your work week sir.
I have a 2017 F-150 fx4 Supercrew with the 5.0 and love it. I wish you would have mentioned the fuel tank sizes. I have the 36 gallon and would never want less. I have gone over 600 miles before stopping for gas
2019 xlt 3.5tt perfect power in the mountains and 36 gal. Nice to know we can go a long way. And those hemis will cook themselves mountain driving dodge people go to diesels if they have to go through mountains.
Awesome. Thinking of getting one with a 2021 and heavy duty payload package. Any idea of your axle ratio and your mpgs? Thanks!
I have the 2019 5.0 Super Crew with 4wd, get around 20 combined. It cruises at 1400 rpm. The thing that never gets mentioned about those eco-boost engines is that they're GDI (over 1000 psi pressures), it's a V-6 that's pushed very hard to get those numbers, and the turbos won't last if you follow the computer's recommended oil changes; clean oil is the key to making them last.
Finally, some love for our bad ass Coyotes!!
@@Catcanski69 thanks for feedback on 5.0 mpg. I plan on HDPP option with 3,73 gears. Dont tow mich but need the payload on weekends
I bought a 93 ranger 2.3 lt 5 sp 2wd 9 years ago as a daily work truck. I wanted something easy on gas with a bed cheap but reliable. It had 225,000 on the clock. It now has 489,000 miles and has been reliable as a hammer! Other than two hydraulic clutch issues never left me
Together we can make TFL great again .
I thought he was going to say the same thing!!! 🤣
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@@budwhite9591ok?
Buy the engine that best suits your individual needs.
There is a problem tho. Once you go big on displacement you never want to go back. Power, performance & sound is addictive.
The LM2 Dmax will be my next truck engine.
The biggest difference in the base model Tundra at 35k vs the 25k base models from Ram, Ford, GM , those 25k base trucks are not only v6 trucks, they are also regular /single cab trucks , where the tundra no longer offers the single or regular cab trucks. That 35k base tundra truck is a double cab 4 door truck. Add 4dr cab and the v8 to any other brand and your at the same 35k starting price point or really close to it.
Good points! Also, the tundra comes standard with the tow package inlcuding trailer brake controller. These two options cost around $1300 on a Ford/GMC (didnt cross shop Ram). I looked at many f150s that had a $200 2" hitch installed but no actual towing package which negates all the high tow ratings that get quoted.
It’s still $10k no matter how you slice it. I can order an XLT 5.0 Short box 😎 4x4 F150 for $38k.
2008 Tacoma v6 and 2010 5.7l get the same mileage. For a 1/2 ton towing 10,000 should be across town or moving in the driveway. Get a 3/4 for 10,000 towing regularly. Tundra tows 6,000 all day at 10mpg.
Single wall bed. A dent on the inside shows outside.
I bought 2020 Sierra 5.3 used and honestly surprised with the MPG here in Florida.
I just can't possibly watch this for 1 hour. Can you just two just post a summary of what you both discussed?
Agreed. Some editing was in order. I'd think 10 mins would be best, 15 minutes would be good, 20 minutes max.
@@BPoweredLove Totally agree.
Come back when you have more time👍
@@tedschmitt178 You're unemployed, I assume. Good on you, mate.