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Great video guys! I recently got rid of my Maverick, not for a drive train issue, but I found something a little annoying in the drivetrain that I thought I would share. My Maverick had the Ecoboost, AWD, Tow pkg with the 8 speed conventional automatic transmission. I towed a 3000 lb trailer with it thru the mountains in Colorado and found that the engine had plenty of power for that job - no complaints at all regarding power. I did find a bit of a quirk with the automatic transmission and the turbo-engine - the transmission would constantly try to upshift to improve mileage, but the engine needed to build revs before it developed much power. When I needed more power, the transmission would downshift, then there would be a delay as the turbo pooled up, then a rush of power, then the transmission would very quickly upshift again, the turbo would spool down, the truck would slow, and then the whole cycle would start all over again. It made trying to drive smoothly very difficult - the engine and transmission seemed to be a cross purposes: engine wants high revs, transmission wants low revs, so there were lots of jerks with the drivetrain speeding up and slowing down. There was an 'L' button on the shifter, which would tell the transmission to try to stay in a lower gear, but you couldn't choose which gear, or even see which gear the transmission chose, so you still had little control over the transmission. I liked the engine, and the transmission worked well, it just didn't seem like they were well suited to each other.
I had a 2018 Chevy Colorado ZR2 with the baby Duramax 4 cylinder diesel. It was very slow. It was a little torque monster but had very little power above 2500 rpm. It had the 6 speed automatic and the problem was that it seemed like GM had someone programming the shift points that wasn't familiar with the power curve that engine produced. I ended up getting a custom tune that altered shift points so it would upshift much quicker to take advantage of that wave of torque and it was much more fun to drive.
This may be one the best shows TFL has produced on episode by episode basis' I've been here(TFL) since about 2014 .. I heard about powertrains, tire syping, All--terrain tires,Transmissions. ya'll covered it all ..Great show!!.
Content is better when big-mouth Roman isn't constantly interrupting. These 2 dudes make TFL what it is today.
Agree wholeheartedly, keep Roman away. He does fine when he does solo vehicle drive - reviews, but that's all
I drove a 2021 tacoma and a 2018 frontier back to back on the same day. Both were auto. The 4.0L in the Nissan seemed like an animal in comparison. Broke the back tires loose and threw you in the seat. The Tacoma was OK, but felt merely adequate. I went home with the frontier.
Tacoma would be a good choice if only it was around 6-7K cheaper than the market price. For about 45-50K, you can get a legit V8 full size that gets the same fuel economy and way more features.
Looked at a 23’ TRD, opted for a used 2015 Tundra Limited, way better value, no issues with hauling my gear, still great reliability and almost $20 k cheaper with a high end truck cap and included air level system, much more truck.
@@thevanman4498 Would have made the same decision. Nice pick!
@@thevanman4498My knowledge is on older models but on cabin and ride the Tundra is a great truck and the Tacoma is in the league of Jeeps and is quite compromised(comfort and ride)
@@thevanman4498 Fuel cost is a big issue though.
@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806
That is the trade off between the the 2, capability vs economy. My Tacoma could only dream of hauling the load I carry daily. I have broken leafs on a previous Toyota, with the included air level I got with the Tundra, that worry goes out the window. Oh and I never get high beam flashed at my because of my payload. The Tundras come with a dual a headlight load compensator dial with 5 load settings. Enjoy your Toyota no matter which one you have.
In 2018 I wanted a new Tacoma. But after driving it, the lack of power was just too severe. A Tundra had good power, but the gas mileage was unacceptable. I ended up with a F150 4x4 5.0 V8. It has amazing power, and gets almost the same gas mileage as the Tacoma. Averaging 20mpg. I am still a Toyota fan, but not every time they go to bat produces a home run.
I haven't driven a 5.0 F-150 but it sounds like a good compromise on power and mpgs compared to the 4.6 and 5.4 it replaced. I do have the first gen 5.0 DOHC Coyote in my Mustang and still impressed with the power and performance from the factory.
The coyote isn't a compromise. It's superior to both the 4.6 and 5.4 by every metric. Power, torque, mpg, reliability. Ford took all the lessons they learned from the 4.6 and 5.4 and put the best of everything into developing the coyote. 1st and 2nd gen Coyotes especially. Rumor has it the newer Coyotes have oil consumption issues, I can't speak to that with any experience, however. I went from an 06 F150 5.4 to a 13 5.0, so 1st gen Coyotes are all I've dealt with to compare, with experience, but I never hear anything bad about the 2nd gens either.
who said anything about it being a compromise?@@crewdawg2008
Great informative video.
I test drove a tacoma before buying a new Nissan Frontier Pro4x...no idea why people buy that truck other than it's good looks.
Agreed and I owned one, though not for too long. Couldnt figure why its such a top seller and I now have a ridgeline. Better in almost every way. New Tacoma looks good though.
Had both. Love nissan! Have a tacoma now. Why? Don't have to worry about it. Buy it and forget for years other than some routine maintenance.
Nissan is a better comfort? Drive? Always loved frontiers. Not knocking them. Nissans i had were about unkillable. The tacoma might come out a little lower in maintenance costs over the long run? Don't know. First tacoma.
Shall see
People are blinded by reputation.
@@AkioWasRight is it blinded? Reputation goes a long way. Usually earned. Afraid among all the car makers I'm not really seeing the highest quality materials or the most sturdy designs though. We have hit peak quality manufacturing years ago.
@@itsallminor6133 If you buy vehicles that are objectively inferior purely because of reputation, you are blind.
Tacoma engine is not bad at all, you can argue that the trans tuning could have been better though.
The tacoma v6 takes the crown on this subject for sure. What a confused dog of an engine. Who cares if it lasts forever if it’s a horrible driving experience? lol
A lot of people care that it lasts forever lol
@@vicenteochoa6498 true lol I was really just using the figure of speech for my own opinion on it. I wanted one since the 2015 body came out but test driving it every year since then and realizing they didn’t fix the performance steered me away.
Engine is fine, transmission tuning is the main issue
@@Jay-bw3fl definitely not a performance vehicle. But where I live there are a lot of laborers. They just need to haul a couple hundred lbs around or equipment. Maybe 1000lb at the most. And they need a truck that will have low cost to own and for a long time. The Tacoma is the most popular for that by a long shot.
It's a parts bin Camry motor. It saved Toyota boatloads of money to just toss in something already developed. Not a fun engine to drive though that's for sure.
I know they can't say it, but the reason ram is doing so bad along with Dodge, is stilantis. They were bought out by a French company that already has the viewpoint of everything electric. Stilantis will de the death of ram and dodge, and hopefully not jeep. Everything they have now is because of FCA.
I have a 2023 Bronco Sas with the 2.7 with a hard 7000 miles and have had ZERO issues. I get its a little early, but I've heard people talk about issues from day one. It's thirsty, but I don't care. It's a damn fun vehicle and a peppy powertrain. Can't wait to hit your course.
Consider yourself lucky, that engine is basically a ticking time bomb and Ford is going to have a HUGE recall on them more than likely due to all sorts of failures. Not really surprising though, some high strung tiny V6 with twin turbos is probably never going to be that reliable, esp from the Big 3
Someone who owns a Ford
@ElonMoosk Ticking time bomb, eh. Perhaps. I know they had a valve issue, but my engine wasn't built with those faulty valves. Other issues can occur I'm sure, but only time will tell.
But wait until the rubber belt driving your oil pump breaks and destroys the entire engine. Performance is great, but it has to last too.
@@craigg4246 God bless a warranty.
@@Nathans_Margarita_SaltThe engine issues is early builds only. He has a 2023 and will be most likely great on reliability.
Not a truck, but I'd add the VW Mk6 GTI. Compared to the Focus ST that engine was way down on power, much less efficient, and didn't last nearly as long. I bought one anyway because the rest of the car was much better than a Focus. But realized a few years later that the correct move was an Acura ILX.
Great podcast. It helps when purchasing the truck to know the specifics. Here is a topic that I hope you will discuss. I am looking at purchasing an electric truck, but no one discusses plowing. I have a long driveway as many people do here in the northern latitudes. it would be great to know what our options are. Thanks!
I agree! This needs to be done with a Ford Lightning since it has the ICE truck chassis! The Rivian is not a "truck", it's an "adventure vehicle" so to speak, so the Rivian was never intended to be a plow recipient. I want to see a lightning plow!
Ram still had the 5.7 hemi , 2500 in 2015 which I still drive. Has far as pulling we have a 2013 35’ travel trailer, which grosses around 11k and it pulls it with ease. When pulling we can average around 10-12 mpg unless the Kansas wind is really blowing. I have about 160k on it and plan to keep it for some time. And yes I’ve had the manifold issue resolved and plan to replace the cam and lifters this winter. For what new and used trucks are selling for I can spend some money on it and still have a nice pickup that’s paid for and do everything I want it to do.
I have a Toyota Camry hybrid, it doesn’t use any belts, it’s all gears and electric motors. The performance is fantastic as well as the fuel economy, 47.8 mpg highway, 54 in town.
I’m brand loyal- Toyota Tacoma loyal….2002 with 300k, had to replace som3 things as it is lifted 6”…. Bought my 19 Tacoma off road in January 19, put 250k trouble free miles (many in 4 WD) before trading for a 23 Pro. My 19 still looked and drove like it did when I pulled off the lot 4 1/2 years ago. I bought the last of the 3rd Gen because it has performed wonderfully and maintained a great resale.
19 Tacoma with 250K miles? You were putting 62K miles a year on your truck? I have a 17 year old 2006 pickup with 64K miles (laughing)...
@@devildog5354 yeah and oddly enough I actually own 7 vehicles. I gave my oldest daughter a car/SUV we bought new… it’s a 2004 GMC…had 80k miles on it now haha. We own a horse farm and it’s in the middle of nowhere and I’m always going somewhere.
My wife and I are empty nesters, she has a 4Runner Pro…I bought it for her about a year and a half ago…she has maybe 12k miles. The new Tacoma pro I bought 2-3 weeks ago…over 6k miles.
So it always drove like garbage? Coo
@@billshoe22191no, it drives great. Has plenty of power on/off road. It’s tremendously maneuverable around our property as well as when I’m driving in major cities.
I wouldn’t take a walking horse and expect it to perform well in a roping competition…even though the walking horse has a wonderfully smooth ride.
I have a 2019 Tacoma and I paid a guy $300 to reprogram the ECU to eliminate the stock Otto Cycle that makes the engine more efficient but results in much lower torque at low rpm. The mod made it seem like a new engine.
I am a very preparedness minded guy. I would love an episode like that!
I had both bfg all terrain and the mud terrain and I found the mud tire out performed the AT tire in the winter but at the time the AT tire was being advertised as baja tested and used in the desert racing... don't expect a desert tire to performe well in lower Temps vs my MT tires which were very soft and sticky
Tacoma 3.5 is poop-hated that thing. It is loud, inefficient, and gutless.
If you have one, congratulations, you can be annoyed for a record number of miles.
“It’ll last 1,000,000 miles!” And each and every mile will make you want to drive it off a cliff.
Tuned my 19 tacoma and it runs great now. Also it's not the engine it's the transmission since the same 3.5 is in Lexus making more power. Tuning it drastically improves it over the shit tuning from the factory. The throttle response was horrible as well before tuning.
most popular midsized truck with the most lethargic engine package. lol thanks yota
Get it tuned and it's much better
For the tires part about handling in snow. I got a '14 f250 with a 6.7 and once i leveled it i stuck on some 35x12.50s toyo MTs and never had better traction in the snow than i have with these tires
I enjoyed this episode hearing about the different engine offerings and your reviews. I bought a slightly used 2018 Silverado LT 5.3 Direct injection with the 6 speed auto trans. in Jan. of 2020. Only had 15k on the odometer. Coming from a 2005 Avalanche 5.3 with 4 speed automatic I owned for 15 years and 135K I was impressed with the 2018 engine's 355 HP and torque but the transmission performance has be a bit disappointing. In all fairness the strange shifting and unsmooth engine power to the road at times could also be due in part to the AFM 4 cylinder/ 8 cylinder mode switching and the way the computer controls the torque converter lock outs starting in very low gear ranges. The truck is presently at an transmission shop in my area for a fluid and filter service on the transmission. I have 42K on the truck now. While there it will also receive a custom tune to prevent AFM 4 cylinder mode operation and to limit the TC lock ups to only occur above 45 MPH. I am hoping this will increase my satisfaction with this engine and trans combo and hopefully eliminate the premature failure of the TC from over activation of the lock outs the factory programing causes. When the TCs fail they often take out the 6 speed transmission sending metal fragments through these transmission. This one transmission shop had 9 of these 6 speed transmissions on the work benches full of metal fragments waiting on new parts for their rebuilds. By having the truck reprogramed (tuned) to disable the AFM it will hopefully eliminate the jerking sensation caused by switching between 4 cylinder and 8 cylinder engine modes and hopefully prevent the lifter failure the system is commonly known to cause in these 5.3L V8 engines. That is my hope anyway. Other than these issues I love my truck and I do hope the results prove worth taking these remedies.
I have the same truck and I feel the same way. My 04 works like a truck should work. Is your tuner using HP tuners?
I have a 2022 Silverado with the 5.3 and 10spd and it makes my 2010 Tahoe with the 6spd feel like it's a Ford Model T. The power is much better and the trans gearing makes the truck feel like an old big block in the mid range
@@larry7690, I don't know the details on the tuning equipment they will be using. They did say all the changes will be retained by the truck's computer so there is no danger of loosing the tune when changing the battery, etc. later.
Having the Tacoma as the thumbnail couldn’t be more appropriate….
That's funny you say that because a lot of people complain about that Toyota Tacoma but for some reason they sold more trucks than Chevy, Ford & Nissan midsized trucks combine!! Because it's reliable AF & that's why 250,000 ppl per year get the 🌮
Maybe their all wrong 🤔
@@honda116969McDonald’s sells more hamburgers than anyone else. Doesn’t make them the best hamburger 😂
@@manlythings7586 show me a Colorado or a ranger that has 300,000 miles & still running? 🤔 Here on TH-cam put in 300,000 mi Tacoma guy has minimal maintenance over 300K minimal repairs & pulling a big ass trailer for the whole trucks life! Still going strong! No Chevy or Ford is going to do that!!
@@manlythings7586 I agree, but maybe it is the best hamburger for the price and convenience, just like the tacoma, it's the best truck for the price (considering everything) If you use it for a few years, you lose the less amount of money in resale. It lasts the most if you use it a lot of years. It costs less to maintain. You have less chance to get stranded on the road if you drive it. It has the best looks (subj), it actually doesn't drive that bad (is not insufferable). I'll probably put the ranger raptor v6 petrol as the best midsize truck, regardless of costs, but the US doesn't have it yet...
I wish TFL would do a All Terrain tire *SNOW* test comparison. You guys seem to really love K02s but where I live in the PNW, basically everyone who has owned them says theyre absolute junk in the wet let alone hard packed snow. Please.... make a test comparing them to other popular AT tires like the Falken Wildpeak AT3W so we can put an end to the debates about which are better. It would easily get 1 million views IMO.
Maybe they dont because theyre worried its going to make the BFG tires look bad and theyre constantly sponsored by them? IDK but ive talked to literally dozens of people who have had both tires on the exact same vehicle and they have all sworn they will never go back to the KO2 after running AT3W's. Just an idea.... you guys did a snow tire test several years ago but not with All Terrains. That should *really* be on the To Do List for this winter, it will easily get a yuge amount of views as they are both super popular tires. Maybe the K03 will be slightly better?
Blizzaks
Tire Rack does testing on many tires
recent update info; 2005 Chevy Astro 4.3 V-6 AWD 331 trip 19.8 mpg going over Donner Pass(I-80) nothing in the mid size truck arena can do this!
ASTRO with the 4.3 was a great van.
I decided to try my Cooper discoverer STT for winter instead of a regular snow tires. Let me tell you, I was very impressed with how good they are in the snow. Not great on snow packed or ice roads but great in deep snow and slushy roads.
How are those tires in the rain? Do they spin easily or hydroplane?
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
I love my BFGOODRICH Trail Terrain tires. Thanks Aundre, and the northern lightning 🌩 😀 series
My 2020 Taco has the 4 cylinder engine, very little to no power at all, but bullet proof
Subaru Eyesight standard with automatic pre-collision braking. Saved my butt a couple of times.
One of the better episodes ive listened to
Continental Terrain Contact AT and the General Grabber ATP are nice tires. Both 3 peak snow rated.
I have owned 3 tacomas OffRoad,s all with 3.5 L with 75k plus miles each and no major problems. I live at the east coast and not sure if I want a turbo’ and the problems.
Y'all could put together a tfl branded overlanding emergency kit to sell.
I loved the Ko2's on my 3/4 tons suburban, but discovered the snow performance was pretty bad.... The DuraTrax for the Ford escape were a good choice
Ive got km-2 mud tires and think they work good in snow but i do have lockers also i think straight 6s are boring in heavier vehicles had a chevy 250 6 and it wasnt fun .
The wiring harness issue for Hyundai Santa Cruz seems silly, if uhaul has a wire harness that will work and the manufacturer doesn't most everyone here would go buy the uhaul harness if they needed to tow.
Love my 22 Ridge. Nice look and powerful. Comfortable. Reliable. But the mileage is a disappointment. This is my 2nd Ridge and mileage on this one isn’t as good as my 17 was.
Bring back the 300cid
Andre, any update on the Trail Boss?
I have mostly Fords.
98 f150 v8 4.6, 2004 f150 v8 5.2, 92 B700 school bus w/ 5.9 cummins diesel & 78 Toyota mini mirage RV 20r 4cyl
The Ford Lion v6 diesel is being dumped into the Ranger in Australia . The USA motor vehicles companies have neverbeen that interested in diesel . Surprising considering how gas fuel is expensive now . Most popular vehicle in ozzy is a diesel pickup . Although car makers are not spending alot on 4cyl TD now . Many are fitting junk eg Ranger, Hilux 2.8
Have a 2019 Tacoma with the 3.5. Horrible. Loved our 2014 Tacoma with the 4.0. Can't even use the cruise control in the it as you hit a hill and it downshift and starts screaming. Desperately needs a tune and on the list of things to do.
What is weird is that the 4runner still has the 4.0l V6, there was no reason to change the engine in the tacoma. If anything they should have put the 4.7l V8 in it, that's a great motor and gets the same fuel economy with more power.
The 4.7 wouldn't pass emmisions regs today.
I'm sure it could, would have been cheaper than developing a whole new engine that nobody likes. @@TheJoncic
The 4.6 v8 is still used in Lexus today in the Gx 460, that would have been a great engine for the Tacoma.
@@martinmarinelarena8508 Lexus also dropped the 4.6. The GX now uses the 3.4TT from the Tundra and Land Cruiser
@@TheJoncic10:10 10:10
I wonder what we’re going to say about the new 2.4 in the Tacoma once it gets daily driven. The max force is going to be plenty powerful, but the base sr trim is much lower in power. The mid level should be okay.
Based on my observations and experience with the Ford Ranger with a similar size turbo engine, it'll do well in at least mid level tune. Much better than the current underpowered V6.
Looking at published specs, it will be an absolute torque monster compared to the 3.5.
Yeah when Diesel’s were still the favorite choice I was really waiting for the new Nissan Diesel but then I read articles that V8 diesel’s historically don’t run well so guess what this one failed also , If they would just build a 4 or 6 cyc and keep it simple but …well now it’s history. It wasn’t affordable and jeez.
It’s amazing how people forget that the Tacoma 3.5 is a Atkinson cycle engine!! Off the line. It feels like an old turbo engine. Slow off the line but as soon as it hits a certain RPM, it takes off like an old turbo engine used to. That engine has been in Lexus models and the Toyota Camry, but they weren’t Atkinson cycle. They added that technology to the Tacoma because they were trying to figure out a way to get better gas mileage but you sacrifice torque off the line. The only thing to fix that problem is a tune.
The New Tundra, i own the 5.7 V8
I have the Ram 1500 ecodiesel. It has been the biggest disappointment ever and dealing with the faulty DEF system was a nightmare. I will never buy another diesel or Ram.
Hi guys I have a Chevy Colorado with the v6 rear wheel drive its the work truck looking at a camper as far shocks and springs and tires what do you recommend
Sierra
My worst was a 2016 Silverado. Transmission and AC.
My 06 Silverado was flawless. It had that small V8 and in 265k. Needed a battery and a fan reostat
I also own a 2003 chevy 4.8 the small v8 265000 miles. I'VE owned this truck for 15 years very reliable truck.
They destroyed a great thing for one mile per gallon
I agree 100%
Because of epa and huge fines
According to my local Ram dealer, 2024 is the last year for 6.4 heavy duty trucks.
9:45 IDK My Chevy 5.3 in my extended cab 4x4 Silverado does everything I ask it too with no problem
Ford 5.0 is hugely superior in every way. The 5.7 Hemi is also better
Iv come up with a saying always expect the worst never be disappointed lol!!
Unfortunately my luck isn’t as good as I want it to be.
I love my 3.5 Tacoma. I had the same complaint as others with the trans tuning. But I went and got the OTT tune and it fixed all the issues. More torque down low and no more gear hunting.
You wasted your money to make your truck last less long
@@itsallminor6133 I’m not sure what you are saying. I’m going to assume you’re referring to reliability. No this tune will not make my truck less reliable. Magnuson makes a supercharger that they provide a warranty on. Plenty of Tacomas around running the supercharger with no issues. Keep in mind the supercharger pushes the Tacoma to mid to upper 300 hp range. The 3.5 is a well built engine and the 6 speed auto trans is strong as well.
@@Off-Road10 more stress on the motor for no reason. Leave it alone it will idle driving around at 1100 or so rpm for 300k miles. It hardly stresses at all unless towing up hill.
@@Off-Road10 don't need a tune either. Etc or sport mode. But really. Leave it alone. People mess these up adding 2000lbs of weight to them, larger tires, overland stuff. At that point you are to the point of bracing the frame. You've done everything else. 😂.
My opinion. I think its just dumb. But that's my experience
@@itsallminor6133@itsallminor6133 the kind of tune mentioned does not affect reliability. All it does is modify fuel maps and timing + eliminating the simulated Atkinson cycle ontop of modifying the transmission logic. It adds no additional stress to the components.
Nathan, if you want the best for your daughter, buy a dedicated winter and summer tire.
The fix for the V6 Tacoma is an OTT tune… it’s like driving a brand new truck.
If people would look at actual dyno charts instead of manufacturer HP numbers, they could easily see the difference between good and bad powertrains. The Toyota 4.0 and the taco motor have similar numbers, but when you look at the curve on the dyno graph its not close. The 4.0 has better power throughout the entire powerband, while the taco just hits the numbers closer to redline. Thats the same reason I had to redline my taco to make passes on the highway. Bring back the 4.0!
Won’t happen, they are shrinking motors to meet EPA standards
Love the podcast. Love it! But the discussion about snow tires is always very Colorado specific. In colder areas it is all about the rubber compound, not the tread pattern. AT tires can be extremely dangerous in areas that have frequent black ice. In this case a dedicated winter tire is a must. An AT tire, no matter what the sidewall says, is not appropriate.
You need to better qualify your statements when you discuss winter tires. Colorado is not the only place your fans live.
I think you should replace "engines" with "powertrains"in the video title, since you're talking about both engines and transmissions.
You had the HP numbers on the RAM at 370, the 5.7 makes 395 hp.
Kind of hard to beat the good ole Tacoma 4.0. I have 300K of hard mountain and city driving on my 2006 over 17 years and it's still a champ. Certainly better than my 21 Tundra 5.7 as far a felt power and torque/weight ratio. I still drive my 4.0 Tacoma once a week and prefer it over the Tundra in all aspects. More comfortable and much better useable power/torque.
I believe the Duramax had a four-speed when it came out.
I'll take reliability over "performance" any day of the week.
It depends what youre doing though if using it within its capabilities its fine but it wont last if its constantly stressed out trying to do performance work
We need a Ike gauntlet with the new ford 6.8 v8 super duty video?
The jeep 5speed auto in 2011-2013 grand cherokees. i know bc i got stuck w one. horrible with the 3.6ps. it will be interesting to see the reliability in the new toyota hybrid/gas turbo engines. not really needed and maybe not a good combo with all the heat but as long as the batteries are in the back maybe they will last. i dont like them taking up cargo space. for example the land cruiser and sequoia. the sequoia hybrid should just ditch the 3rd row bc that shelf thing is funky. not a fan of toyotas in general but i hope the next 4runner stays true w a v6. nice cargo slide there which no one ever did before, but i commend them for pushing the technology. is a turbo really needed w a hybrid?
Nathan you 100% correct about the bedroom😂. Any married man with a wife and kids would agree.
I was expecting to see the hurricane engine in the jeep wrangler and gladiator.
Guess I was wrong
Thoughts on the Toyota 2.7 4 cyl motor in the Tacoma ?
Great motor. Very tough and reliable, but not very powerful.
Toyota 2.7L Gas, GM 2.7L gas, Ford 3 value 5.4 L, Ford Powerjoke 6.0L and 6.4 L, Ram 3.7and 3.9 V6, I agree with you other choices!
Which gm 2.7l gas I have it in my 23 Silverado but I have the ho version it’s been a very impressive POWERTRAIN
The factory tune of the tacoma is what hurts it. You ask anyone who got the ott tune or even the kdmax. Its like driving a totally different truck. I don't know why Toyota tuned the tacoma the way it is. But an after market tune really opens these trucks up. And honestly it should of been that way from the factory
Yeah 3rd Gen Tacoma V6 is a bit weezy..esp at speed and you encounter going up a hill..Sure the engine has been rather bulletproof in terms of zero issues but it searches for gears and the gas mileage isn't really all that great..
What ever happened to the 426 Hemi?
I have a 2014 GMC Sierra. My experience after 100,000 miles, my lifters failed. Had to replace valves and a cam. I heard the 5.3 in years 2014 through 2018 are bad. The fuel management system is bad. .A very expensive problem. My Truck was maintained as a Garage Queen.
I hope you did the AFM delete.
@@larry7690 Yes I did after the damage
@@ekavoian Great move too many people go back to the dealer for the same problems
@@larry7690 Not every one has issues.
I totally disagree with you all on the 6.6 gas 6 speed transmission. I own a 2022 Chevy HD gas. I've watched both your videos with the 10 speed you all towed 14000 lbs with the 6 speed you all towed 16000 lbs that's not fair game. I understand the 10 speed will probably do some better because the gears are closer together but if you going to do a fair test tow the same wheight. My 2022 HD Gas 6 speed has done everything I've ask it to no issues it's a work horse. On open rd cruising hwy speed I'm getting 18 mpg empty truck. I'm very happy with my Chevy HD 14000 miles no issues. I think you all should retest both trucks same wheight and compare again.
No lets not forget Fords biggest mistake was only offering the Baby Power Stroke on Lariat and above trims at introduction, back when people were not paying 70+ thousand dollars for a pickup that wasnt a Raptor or a HD
I think Nissan should’ve released the Titan XD as just the Titan, make that the half ton, and then they would’ve been the leader of the market.
The Titan XD was not a heavy-duty truck? It's rated a class2B truck. It's just as HD as our Silverado 2500HD. Please explain!
It’s pretty much a HD truck but the semi float rear axle and 6 lug wheels keep it from being a full HD truck. Overall a good truck as long as it’s gas powered.
^ lug has nothing to do with its rating in this case. It's still a class 2 B truck. (3/4 ton rated). Lots of HD 3/4 and 1 ton trucks are semi floating. @@AB-coyote
@@Teamvenomracing which 3/4 and 1 ton trucks have a semi float??? A 1985 Silverado?
Most trucks. You realize the full floating axles are just a straight axle with no hub/wheel studs, correct? I think you are confused.@@AB-coyote
Tacoma is great with the manual trans.
My dad has a 5.7 2500. Such a dog when towing
Forget about the tacoma 3.5 auto the 2.7 auto in the base truck that are mostly fleet trucks is way way worse. Extremely underpowered 4 speed auto always hunting, its loud its a little clunky gets the same mpg as the v6. It's only pros are its affordable Extremely reliable and extremely easy to work on.
In an era where trucks are so expensive, getting increasingly complicated, harder to do your own maintenance. The tacoma is king in terms of simplicity. Its not comfortable or powerful but the thing just works. Parts are relatively cheap, tons of aftermarket. Ill sacrifice the creature comforts for peace of mind
“Have you ever been disappointed?”
*picture of a Nissan in the back*
The Nissan is only a disappointment when it has the Cummins.
When I hear straight 6, I don’t think BMW or Mercedes…. I think the 4.0 AMC engine in all the TJs
the jeep/dodge 3.6
I have an 03 dually 5.7 Hemi 5 speed manual crew cab. WTF were you thinking Dodge?
I have 450,000 miles on the same truck never touched the engine .. 1 trans rebuild
Bring back the 7.3
Anyone that owned or owns a 3rd Gen Taco knows, on the Taco forums, the 2nd Gen owners were always referring to the 3rd Gen as Turd Gen.
Ford 3 valve 🤮🤮🤮
What about all the issues with GMs 5.3? Oil burning and issues with the cylinder deactivation?
It's an issue. Get that cylinder deactivation c*** shut off. That will eliminate probably 90% of the problem. DOD or displacement on demand equals death on demand
Tacoma highest selling midsized truck in America even with its disappointing engine😂. Outsells Ranger and Colorado combined.😊The new 2024 design will sell even more.
Tried to watch, the commercials just dont stop. Oh well, i tried..
Bring back the 4.0
cummings built exellent engines but the one in the nissan titan is very bad its a total fail for cummings ...but normally they build some very good diesels engines
I’ll take that job lol
I bought a 2021 Silverado RST 6.2. Within a year of ownership, the engine self destructed. GM did the engine swap under warranty. That was disappointing. I traded the Silverado for a 2022 Gladiator Rubicon manual. Very happy so far.
I LOVE my 3.5L in the Tacoma and do have the automatic trans , just LOVE it ! I wouldn’t trade it for any truck out there like NONE I’ve had most trucks domestic and imports they suck ! I’m getting 24MPG on the highway here where I live at 1400ft elevation and when towing my car behind it 5700#’s I get 15mpg having said this if you actually do your research this 3.5 V6 in the Tacoma has a 6 bolt main hahaha go look up how many V8’s have that . Ya it’s disappointing alright I hate getting over 300k miles in a truck that has a motor that has minimal very minimal issues !
This is why Americans are freakin BROKE they keep trading in their trucks because they know they won’t last ! Andrea trade in your chevy soon because if you don’t it will cost you💲 and you know it ! Keep knocking the Tacoma and it will keep blowing the sales doors OFF every midsize truck in the world
Thanks 👍🏻……
My 2022 Silverado crew cab 4wd with the 5.3 gas engine and 10spd auto trans knocks down 24 mpg on the highway. I've even averaged 25 mpg over a 50 mile trek as my best ever. Sorry, but Toyota owes you customers a bit more performance at this point
Mmm hmm
It’s hilarious that you think you’re getting that fuel mileage out of your trucks. I hate to burst your bubble, but resetting the trip computer & watching it for a few miles doesn’t equate to your mpg’s. Get back to us after you’ve gone through a full tank and let us know how the math works out.
Oh yeah…I was getting 99 mpg out of my 3/4 ton truck the other day by the way…just using the same method you guys used. 😂😂🤷♂️🤦♂️
@jeffs2809 I'm sorry that you can't do math and solely rely on your trip computer. But I use my trip computer and other features along with paying attention to how much fuel I put in a fillup to do my comparisons. You should teach a class to me abouy how fuel economy works so that I don't make silly mistakes anymore 😏
@@Mang213 if you think resetting your trip computer & driving 50 miles means your 5.3 chevy gets 25 mpg, you are the one that's lost. As for my other comments...look up sarcasm.
I have a 2023 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab S Trim. Currently has 30,000 miles. Last week my Check Engine Light came on for 2 mins. It happened again 1 week later for about a min. Both times there was no difference in performance what so ever. Then the following day I noticed my Stereo wouldn't turn on. I tried several times. I was pissed. I tried it 5 mins later no problem. It hasn't happen again.
I follow the recommended Maintenance plan. I have full coverage with an additional Maintenance package. It just so happens that as I drove it to the service department, on a scheduled appointment, the check engine light came on. I also informed them about the stereo.. They kept my truck for 2 days. The check engine light problem was a intake manifold issue. They replace the intake manifold. I was told that they couldn't find anything wrong with the stereo system. But if the problem returns Schedule an appointment.
My question to you is having only 30000 miles on the vehicle. Why did this problem occur? Could it be a flaw? Could the stereo system wiring also be connected to this problem? Also, what caused the manifold malfunction that way and is a manifold the problem. Or is there some other issue that created the manifold Problem. I'm concerned about this. I need to know legally where I stand at this point. If it should turn out to be a lemon. What I should do to protect myself for future maintenance issues?
I would just relax and enjoy your pickup, your truck is under waranty. The manifold issue would not be related to the stereo system...
Run it.
@devildog5354 I'm aware that they weren't or aren't related. I was concerned about the issues at hand in such a new vehicle. Is it cause for concern?
@@itsallminor6133 I have no choice but to. I don't own a second vehicle.
Heads up boys,
Trucks are an abomination now. The reset has begun. The new bench will be a 1st Gen toyota tundra and smaller. Top price around 60k base small pick up around 10k+ with high quality. 500,000k miles possible .