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I love when PlayStation podcasters complain about their storefront and say why can’t they be like Nintendo. I’m like how do they not know how bad it is over here 😅
They need to be REALLY careful about what they call the Switch 2, like if it's just "Nintendo Switch" and then a basic descriptor they run the risk of confusing everyone all over again like with the Wii U
honestly i feel like the one thing that the wii 100% beats the switch on is having personality. wii has all these little jingles when you opened a game or opened any of the preinstalled channels. like there's a reason stuff like the wii shop music and the mii channel music are still popular to this day.
@@user-vi4xy1jw7eYou're only spending less time in the menus on the Switch because there's absolutely nothing to do. I have spent a lot of time just scrolling through the Wii and Wii U menus, digital shops, settings, etc.
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e You have to go into those menus at some point while using the Switch. They at least could make the home menu for the switch look more interesting, you know THE MENU YOU SEE EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO START A GAME.
I vividly remember how uncertain people were with the Switch in 2017. That first year was basically people holding their breath to see if Nintendo was boned or not.
I don't remember that at all. It had a lame launch with the only game worth getting for it being Breath of the Wild for like a month and a half, but other than that everyone was hyped as shit for it. I was in high school at the time and one of the girls in my home ec class, who didn't play many video games, was really excited for it RIGHT after that first look trailer released
@@saricubra2867 The Wii U is a slightly better Wii that came out 6 years late and had almost no good games on its own. Doesn't matter if it was any better then the Wii, it was overpriced hardware that didn't need to exist.
One important thing to note with the Switch: it brought third-party AAA gaming into the palm of your hand, starting with Skyrim then especially Doom 2016. Then the rest is History.
@@saricubra2867 I don't know, perhaps the Switch is the first Nintendo mainline console that has received the best third-party support in years, but it is mostly comprised of late ports from previous generations. Even during the N64, GameCube and Wii eras, third-party developers made more exclusive (or timed exclusives) that took advantage of Nintendo's console hardware limitations. With the Switch, I guess plenty of third-party developers swore that they would gave the console a better support compared to the WiiU, but I think most of them were caught off-guard by the Switch's success and tried many of them gave weak excuses why certain games wouldn't appear on the Switch and then magically making said ports (Jump Force is one game I remember people from Bandai Namco claiming that it couldn't run on the Switch until it did) The thing I'm saying, is that there's very few successful third-party games that were developed for the Switch's hardware. The only ones I can think of are Bayonetta 3, Monster Hunter: Rise, Momotaro Dentetsu, Octopath Traveller I & II and Shin Megami Tensei V Just for comparison, Nintendo's portables used to have a ton of third-party support, consoles like the Game Boy, DS and 3DS often receive exclusive versions of famous franchises, I'm talking things like Metal Gear, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, etc. In part, it help that developing for portable console was cheaper than making a console game, but seeing how the Switch is a hybrid console and is in HD, I can understand why very few developers consider making games for it, especially due to its aging hardware, instead preferring to develop games for next-gen machines I don't think things will change with the Switch's successor, we'll probably see late ports from the PS4 and PS5 generation sold at full price, then some developers will say the same thing like "we're testing the waters until we're fully confident in making games for Nintendo hardware"
The thing that amazes me about the Wii Remote is just how sturdy it is. Those things require serious force to take them apart. I was cleaning one for a friend, and I had to buy heavy grade guitar picks just to open it because it broke all of my spudgers when I was trying to pry the internal clips
Does anyone else feel like Scott’s Stash has become more like what his main channel used to be? I like his main channel stuff but these videos are just straight up about the games and I’m here for it
The main channel is also about games but there’s been a much larger focus on adding skit content in there as well as higher production values like custom animation styles, original songs, etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with that and I’m happy Scott’s able to do work that he’s proud of. I was just saying it’s nice to see he’s also able to go back to a simpler style where all he needs is a single camera angle some games to talk about for an hour while still being able to hold our attention.
@@ConRtistI mean Scott has very amazing creative skills. You can tell the videos on his main channel are meant to be super entertaining and they are while these videos are more informative for people wanting to find out about video game history. He does both extremely well and I think you like these videos more simply because of how amazing he is at presenting historical information about his subjects
@@byVariations Scott's main channel stuff is very informative as well, it just goes at a more breakneck pace so it can be harder to absorb all the information at times
The Switch's ability to suspend ANY game at ANY point and hold that spot indefinitely even while the system is in sleep mode has been one of the most revolutionary features for how I and many others enjoy games. In my mind it's an absolutely essential feature of the Switch's design and I'm really surprised Scott didn't mention it a single time throughout this comparison. Aside from portability, its the key feature that makes the Switch the ultimate Nintendo console in my mind.
The Wii had that feature too, the original Nintendo home button. I think the Switch even uses a similar, albeit less fun, jingle when you press it. I would leave Wii games in that state for weeks sometimes. Come back, press Home, and resume game right where I left off.
Always has been better, i always disliked the Wii, i have one now and i'm using it for Gamecube games (my Gamecube's disk reader no longer works). Also, i played Gamecube Twilight Princess on the Wii lmao.
I’ll say this the Wii was fun but it lack a ton of features I feel if Nintendo released the Wii U in 2006 without that tablet it could have sold way way more imo a motion control console in HD and later released a pro controller could have been huge
@@kokotheclown2588 True, at this point the Wii U just feels like a prototype switch to me. If they removed the Wii branding and called it something else it probably would have sold more and like you said they probably shouldn't have sold the tablet portion with it since even though it was a fun thing to use it ended up being a gimmick in most games or barely utilized
Friend codes have two purposes: 1. For the Nintendo to be the safest console for parents to let their children use, they need to have that extra layer of security. That means nobody can be contacted based on a username or random search alone. They added the feature recently where you can add recent players to your friends list though. 2. For them to have it be different, they'd need a more robust online system... which it's clear Nintendo aren't interested in implementing.
Also, the friend codes work for any two people that have a Switch, in lieu of any robust online infrastructure. The finding friends through social media thing is great, but if you don't have a friend on social media or you've found someone like at a con or something, the friend code is more convenient and/or the only option. Of course, a proper infrastructure would be even better, but this works without having to invest the time and money into making that.
Scott’s perspective is so interesting. He talks about “everyone” being whelmed by Wii U ports on Switch, but to over 90% of Switch owners, those are just games. Mario Kart 8DX in the real world was a huge phenomenon, I’d see people playing it together at lunch all the time. MK8 never had that impact. The novelty of the Switch’s concept elevated nearly every single one of its ports through like 2020 when it started to get old.
Yup. The fact that they were ports only matters to the ten people who actively played Wii U games. For the vast majority of switch players they were just fun new games.
I’m honestly annoyed by people complaining about the number of Wii U ports on Switch and how they aren’t new experiences. Dude, like 95% of people who own a Switch don’t even know about the Wii U.
The Switch is easily my favorite console of all time. Having handheld console with PS3 level graphics without sacrificing battery life and being able to seamlessly put it on your TV is just an amazing feeling. I love it.
Not having to support separate tv and handheld consoles with games really helped Nintendo avoid software droughts for the Switch especially first party.
The Wii was so different from other consoles that it wasn't really competing with Sony or Microsoft. The Switch is a lot closer to a traditional console (plus other consoles incorporating things like motion controls) so it's compared to its competitors a lot more 1v1 the Switch is better, but the Wii excels far more in its own niche
@saricubra2867 you can buy a device that let's you use wiimotes with the emulator, and it's way better than native wii It plays just as well and let's you upscale to 1080p or even 4k The device is called the dolphin bar
Yeah its sad that Mii's are not used in newer games as much as they should be. Not sure why though. Why even give you the option to create one on Switch if your not going to do anything with them?
1:09:47 I'd argue the ports add to the character to the Switch Take all those games from 10+ years ago that you loved and put em on a system you can now play anywhere Edit:Skyrim is the perfect example and games like the Arkham collection would've been great a year or two into the Switch's life for that point
Another couple of great features of the Switch: Physical cards (although most games still need additional downloads anyway) Less menu fluff so it boots up and loads games faster in general.
The Switch UI speed is underrated, boots from sleep mode instantly, OS is quick to do anything (except eShop which is a website), Wii, Wii U and 3DS all had speed issues
People sometimes just forget how important Mario Kart is. Most Mario Kart games sold more than the main series Mario game on the same console. For example, because Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was released the same year as the Switch, the Switch sold ridiculously well.
@@eternalrewind2190 I don't understand what's boring about it. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold almost 40 million more copies than Mario Odyssey. That's not even counting the 8 million of the Wii U version and the DLC of both the original and the booster course pass
it's wild to me thinking of how much the Wii's features make it seem like..... a toy, rather than a gaming console. Like, I'm only older than Scott by a year or two? and I *_never_* used the News, Forecast, or Photo channels at all. I saw them as trite, meaningless trinkets clogging up my new game console
Very fun to watch these videos while animating! Loved this comparison I will say, while it can feel like the Switch lacks character with its massive library of game ports, I think in a way that’s the Switches strongest point compared to every other generation. Thinking about it, the switch is really the first time someone could buy a Nintendo console with the mindset of, “this is going to be my primary console for playing all the new games” because lots of things coming out on PlayStation and Xbox were now also coming out on Nintendo. Then add on top of that all of the switches strong exclusives, you really have one killer console library!
I find it interesting that the Wii was this console EVERYONE was talking about. Compared to Switch which, sure, it’s talked about but no Grandmother is picking that up for her assisted living home.
I genuinely prefer the UI and general system design of the Wii, ignoring my nostalgic bias. The fact that it's specifically themed to emulate TV channels, the deep Mii integration into games and apps, the background music. All this and even more for me helps contribute to a fantastic user experience that the Switch doesn't really measure up to
I remember at the time being pretty quickly dissapponted even as a kid with the Wii once the Wii Sports wore off. The gamecube had so many more quality first party titles.
I do like the Switch more then the Wii to a certain degree but the Wii has way more personality. Im not sure why the Switch dose not have any of the charm Nintendo's previous systems had. Its kinda sad in my opinion.
@mudswim emulating retro games because their resell value is bullshit and there being a lack of modern availability makes sense, and I agree with that. Emulating available games that you can easily purchase is just weak.
The Wii holds a special place in my heart. I’m the definition of a ‘casual gamer’. I only really play video games with people if I have guests over or whatever, and it’s usually like Mario kart or something. I’ve owned my wii since 2009, I got it for my 13th birthday and it was my first video game experience. I still have it, and it still works really well! When the switch released I would have bought it, but I was in college and didn’t have a single cent of spare money to spend. Now I could afford one, but I probably will hold out for the next console at this stage. But I totally see the appeal of the switch, I think its appeal was similar to the wii in many ways!
The Switch wins hands down, but the Wii did have good games that I played back in college. I played Mario Party games, Mario Galaxy, Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Zelda Twilight Princess. Also the biggest reason I even go back to Wii, is the Wii and GameCube disc playback, those games you can play natively and I occasionally have it at birthday parties since you can Melee and the classic Mario Party games on the Wii!
I'm super okay with the Switch being port-city. The Wii U bombed so bad (never even hit 15 million sales) that very few people actually even got to play many of the original games on it. And with the closure of the Wii U virtual console and online services shutting down in a month, there will be even less of a reason to go back and play Wii U unless you virtual console games already downloaded on there. I'll gladly take more ports especially since the Switch is nearing the end of its life cycle. Gimme Windwaker HD, Twilight Princess HD, and Xenoblade Chronicles X.
What I liked is how it presents this sort of like a conversation between a younger and older version of oneself. The Wii had a lot of dumb fun games and features which were part of its charm. The Switch I feel is a more practical system, since it did a lot of things fans of Nintendo had asked for a long time, but at the same time is merely about is a more utilitarian console, and in some cases more about bring a lot of old things instead of coming up with new weird things, not saying any approach is worse, is just a the grass is always greener type of feeling.
My dream is to get a Nintendo system as overall solid and impressive as something like the Nintendo Switch or the Super NES but with as much fun and personality infused into it as something like the Wii or Nintendo 3DS. While I don't expect that to happen and completely understand and respect why they have chosen to move away from including superfluous fluff with the Switch, I do quite miss that stuff.
"Survivor of the Nintendo Dust Bowl grumpy at how good the kids have it on this popular golden age console." "Back in mah day! We had to appreciate the rock we got! And we had to share the rock!"
@@N.i.E.M.O no the switch is definitely a lot more powerful then the xbox one its memory it has is more then 8 times as much which helps alot and only one gig less of available ram as the xbox ones base model (shared memory in all cases) its weird to compare the cpu as its arm versus not arm which is apples to oranges performance wise as they work fundamentally differently but the switch has 4 cores at a lower clockspeed then the xbox 360s 3 cores its clock speeds are relatively close to the xbox one which is also technically clocked lower then the 360 which is all ignoring generational changes to how cpus work the switch is alot closer to an xbox one then a 360 the 360 is also weird to compare to because it uses powerpc based architecture and the xbox one is x86
@@jh302 It's certainly more capable than an Xbox 360, and it has the benefit of supporting more modern architectures, but at the end of the day, performance is still closer to the 360 than Xbox One. And that will still ring true for the 'Switch 2', which will be barely more powerful than the current Switch. The Switch 2 will live or die by its new 'gimmick', just as the Wii did, despite it being basically a copy-paste of the Gamecube but with a 50% upgrade in clock speed. .... And I reckon, it will fail. Massively. Nintendo always gets stupid when they come off a success.
The Wii comes from an era where everyone was bringing their A game and breaking new ground. Nothing today compares to the sheer wealth of innovation & personality from that period in time.
The Wii so timeless it’s like a board game it doesn’t matter how long it’s been out if you get a group of people together and play it you’re gonna have a fun time
27:38 No, this is a very fair assessment and I agree; the Nunchuck/Classic Controller being optional absolutely shaped how open and sprawling games could be. Galaxy’s weird D-Pad camera exemplifies this perfectly, as is the choice to make it more linear than its predecessors.
there are so many good shooters on the Wii too. The fact that genre has so many decent entries on that console, and also fun FPS games (conduit and the CoD ports mainly) that play totally unique, will always keep it relevant
By that logic, the PS3 was lightyears better because it had third party support, has a native blu ray player and has an HD output... The PS3 is the only console from that generation from that era that aged well, both the XBXO360 and Wii didn't.
Game consoles should be game consoles, not personal computers. I don't want firmware upgrades, I don't want online stuff, I don't want media playback, I don't want game updates, I don't want security holes. N64 was the last real game console. GameCube and PS1 were shitty personal computers. 🌈 @@saricubra2867
@@saricubra2867Yes, but the PS3 was 600 bucks until the Slim redesign and the Wii was 250… Like, you didn’t see my original point. It was gas for the _price_
A fact cruelly missing from the design portion! The switch in docked mode with the joycons attached to the controller thingy makes the joycons look like a dog. 10/10
As someone who never had a Wii U, I very much appreciated all the ports that came to Switch. Never would have played Mario 3D World otherwise, and it's easily one of my favorite Mario games of all time.
I disagree with the idea of game ports on each system. The remade Wii games might've been better at using the strengths of the system, but they felt like you were getting the kid's version of the game. At least with the crappy Switch ports you're still getting basically the full game that other systems have.
To tell the truth, a lot of Nintendo fans for so long were waiting a console that finally would brought back the 3rd parties back, they wanted the ports, and the same people didnt saw the "exclusive 3rd party" games on wii as a identity, was more likea excuse: "We cant port resident evil 5 for wii, so here, a shoot'n rail resident evil that looks like RE5, but isn't", this games were de decoys, for the fans dont call the publishers of lazy for not support the wii.
Not sure you got it right about the features. The Wii's internet connectivity might not be anything big by today's standards, but think back to the time of the Wii: not too many things had internet connectivity except PCs and that made the Wii ideal for streaming Netflix. I watched thousands of hours of Netflix, and even a significant amount of Prime TV on the Wii, and the interface was awesome too. I would have given the features category to the Wii just on the internet connectivity alone.
Some Underrated Wii Titles: GT Pro Series, Vancouver Olympics, F1 2009, NASCAR 2012, and Outdoor Challenge (It had a mat controller and used it pretty well)
I'd unironically say that a weather app on the Nintendo Switch makes more sense than on the Wii, given you're often going outside with your Switch as opposed to your Wii being stuck connected to a TV indoors.
I had a Wii. There were some good games, but it never blew me away. Everything I liked was mostly 1st Party. Only a few 3rd Party games, like Tatusnoko Vs. Capcom. To me, the Wii was mostly like the N64; a toy console with a handful of great games. On the other hand, my Switch is my dominant system in my collection. I have all the PS5, an Xbox One X, and my Switches (A Switch Lite and the OLED). As of this writing, I have 220 Switch games (physical copies), with more on the way. My Switch library is loaded with 1st and 3rd Party current games, retro styles games, rereleases, and indie titles. I do admit, I never owned a WiiU. The Wii only had that handful of great games, and the WiiU looked largely the same to me, but with less. Thankfully, many WiiU greats did come to the Switch, and I have them in my library. They were all new to me, so I’ve never cared about them being rereleases. I adore my Switches. They get played far more than either my Xbox of PS5, though the PS5 is picking up some steam as of late. The Switch is just amazing to me. I’m not even bothered in the slightest about the successor being delayed another year. To me, anything Nintendo puts out will be good, but there is no way the next system will see the same level of success as the Switch. Either on-the-go, or at home on the TV, the Switch is fantastic. It’s the best thing Nintendo has made since the NES/SNES/GameBoy era.
The Wii Remote is great. It's also iconic. Joycons are just cheap plastic junk that feel like they will break if they drop once, and they have the horrible drift problem.
You know shit is serious when Scott is showing his face for a stash vid rather than just the carpet .
Minor spelling mistake
And his hand close-up
True, shit’s about to go down lol
Wait I thought he was a carpet
"Wait! ...I thought the carpet was him!" - A character in Scott's world
This camera angle makes it feel like Scott’s interviewing me for a job
How do you think the interview is going?
he got sidetracked
Congratulations on being his new editor
I’m here for Manager Scott
I hope I get a call back!
The Wii walked so Switch could get an eShop filled with actual trash
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How can the Switch eshop be any worse than the Shovelware Wiiware titles?
If we're really gonna shit on the eShop lineup, you can't pretend the Wii Shop Channel was nothing but gold
@@hideofreakingkojima5457if shovelware on the Wii shop channel was bad, then shovelware on the eshop is hazardous waste.
I love when PlayStation podcasters complain about their storefront and say why can’t they be like Nintendo. I’m like how do they not know how bad it is over here 😅
Scott's the type of guy to sit at a desk to talk about video games for an hour with two cardboard boxes next to him.
Hahaha omg why not just sit the actual consoles there? why the boxes?
Spoilers! Hahaha
Didn't watch the video before commenting eh?
@@Waggehfulyou didn't watch long enough
@@Waggehfulto flex on you
Every day, Scott’s Stash gets closer and closer to being as high effort as Scott The Woz
The only real differences are that it isn't scripted and the range of topics is far wider.
Honestly at this point I think I prefer Scott's Stash. The main channel is more focused and better researched, but I just prefer the vibe of this one.
@@jacobmonks3722 And more family friendly funnies, or no funnies at all.
@@chobies5383 which one is which
@@milliondollarmistake Scott's Stash is both
Can't wait for the Switch U to come out so we can get Wii U vs Switch U
Imagine of that leaked name, "Switch Attach" turns out to be real 😂
my dog works for nintendo its actually gonna be called the Switch Up and have a gun in it
They need to be REALLY careful about what they call the Switch 2, like if it's just "Nintendo Switch" and then a basic descriptor they run the risk of confusing everyone all over again like with the Wii U
@@delta0xno it's not
@@chrisj320ac3 Buckle
The Wii wins in the "Having Frogger Returns" category.
It's like he never left
Nik!
@@mistikalcanavarlarparlamen3265 o
The switch wins in not having fling smash
Frogger returns...
*WHEN DID HE LEAVE?!?!?!?*
honestly i feel like the one thing that the wii 100% beats the switch on is having personality. wii has all these little jingles when you opened a game or opened any of the preinstalled channels. like there's a reason stuff like the wii shop music and the mii channel music are still popular to this day.
Yes the Wii definitely has more personality then the Switch. None of this overly minimalistic crap with no background music.
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182Good thing (I assume) you're spending most of your time in the games vs menus.
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182Good thing (I assume) you spend more time in the games than the menus!
@@user-vi4xy1jw7eYou're only spending less time in the menus on the Switch because there's absolutely nothing to do. I have spent a lot of time just scrolling through the Wii and Wii U menus, digital shops, settings, etc.
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e You have to go into those menus at some point while using the Switch. They at least could make the home menu for the switch look more interesting, you know THE MENU YOU SEE EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO START A GAME.
I vividly remember how uncertain people were with the Switch in 2017. That first year was basically people holding their breath to see if Nintendo was boned or not.
I doubted the switch & it’s become one of my favorite systems
Yeah, they were holding their breath
of the wild
I was one of those ppl
I don't remember that at all. It had a lame launch with the only game worth getting for it being Breath of the Wild for like a month and a half, but other than that everyone was hyped as shit for it. I was in high school at the time and one of the girls in my home ec class, who didn't play many video games, was really excited for it RIGHT after that first look trailer released
@@aortaplatinum the issue for me was the breath of the wild came out on Wii u... And it was actually made for Wii u initially
I still find it funny that the Wii U sits in the middle of these two giant 100M+ units sold behemoths
The Wii U nowadays is objectively better than the Wii, it can do everything from the Wii plus Nintendo DS if you want to.
@@saricubra2867Everything except play GCN games without serious modifications
@@saricubra2867 The Wii U is a slightly better Wii that came out 6 years late and had almost no good games on its own. Doesn't matter if it was any better then the Wii, it was overpriced hardware that didn't need to exist.
@@keenobrown919 Is natively compatible because it's fundamentally the same hardware.
Scott the wiiu
scott's yapping skills are unparalleled
One important thing to note with the Switch: it brought third-party AAA gaming into the palm of your hand, starting with Skyrim then especially Doom 2016. Then the rest is History.
The Switch and SNES are the Nintendo third party platforms and the Gamecube is the Nintendo exclusive one.
@@saricubra2867 I don't know, perhaps the Switch is the first Nintendo mainline console that has received the best third-party support in years, but it is mostly comprised of late ports from previous generations. Even during the N64, GameCube and Wii eras, third-party developers made more exclusive (or timed exclusives) that took advantage of Nintendo's console hardware limitations. With the Switch, I guess plenty of third-party developers swore that they would gave the console a better support compared to the WiiU, but I think most of them were caught off-guard by the Switch's success and tried many of them gave weak excuses why certain games wouldn't appear on the Switch and then magically making said ports (Jump Force is one game I remember people from Bandai Namco claiming that it couldn't run on the Switch until it did)
The thing I'm saying, is that there's very few successful third-party games that were developed for the Switch's hardware. The only ones I can think of are Bayonetta 3, Monster Hunter: Rise, Momotaro Dentetsu, Octopath Traveller I & II and Shin Megami Tensei V
Just for comparison, Nintendo's portables used to have a ton of third-party support, consoles like the Game Boy, DS and 3DS often receive exclusive versions of famous franchises, I'm talking things like Metal Gear, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, etc. In part, it help that developing for portable console was cheaper than making a console game, but seeing how the Switch is a hybrid console and is in HD, I can understand why very few developers consider making games for it, especially due to its aging hardware, instead preferring to develop games for next-gen machines
I don't think things will change with the Switch's successor, we'll probably see late ports from the PS4 and PS5 generation sold at full price, then some developers will say the same thing like "we're testing the waters until we're fully confident in making games for Nintendo hardware"
@@saricubra2867and the wii u was neither lol
@@itsapinecone7280 It's a virtual console beast
The thing that amazes me about the Wii Remote is just how sturdy it is. Those things require serious force to take them apart. I was cleaning one for a friend, and I had to buy heavy grade guitar picks just to open it because it broke all of my spudgers when I was trying to pry the internal clips
Those things still worked after breaking all those TV's
Poofesure would like to buy your wii remotes then
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I had to check where I was when I saw that Scott wasn't immediately shoving my face into his carpet.
Does anyone else feel like Scott’s Stash has become more like what his main channel used to be? I like his main channel stuff but these videos are just straight up about the games and I’m here for it
yo, ive noriced that to and i’m totally here for it too!
The normal channel isn't just about the games? Not sure what you mean.
The main channel is also about games but there’s been a much larger focus on adding skit content in there as well as higher production values like custom animation styles, original songs, etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with that and I’m happy Scott’s able to do work that he’s proud of.
I was just saying it’s nice to see he’s also able to go back to a simpler style where all he needs is a single camera angle some games to talk about for an hour while still being able to hold our attention.
@@ConRtistI mean Scott has very amazing creative skills. You can tell the videos on his main channel are meant to be super entertaining and they are while these videos are more informative for people wanting to find out about video game history. He does both extremely well and I think you like these videos more simply because of how amazing he is at presenting historical information about his subjects
@@byVariations Scott's main channel stuff is very informative as well, it just goes at a more breakneck pace so it can be harder to absorb all the information at times
The Switch's ability to suspend ANY game at ANY point and hold that spot indefinitely even while the system is in sleep mode has been one of the most revolutionary features for how I and many others enjoy games. In my mind it's an absolutely essential feature of the Switch's design and I'm really surprised Scott didn't mention it a single time throughout this comparison. Aside from portability, its the key feature that makes the Switch the ultimate Nintendo console in my mind.
Even when the system runs out of power it does it. No longer is there the rush of losing a game if you lose power.
how is it revolutionary when the Gameboy did that 30 years ago?
The Wii had that feature too, the original Nintendo home button. I think the Switch even uses a similar, albeit less fun, jingle when you press it. I would leave Wii games in that state for weeks sometimes. Come back, press Home, and resume game right where I left off.
Gameboy advance and ds have always had that featuer😂
@@javierortiz82 Troll.
Alternate Title: Scott Finally Comes To Terms With The Switch Being Better Than The Wii
Always has been better, i always disliked the Wii, i have one now and i'm using it for Gamecube games (my Gamecube's disk reader no longer works).
Also, i played Gamecube Twilight Princess on the Wii lmao.
I’ll say this the Wii was fun but it lack a ton of features I feel if Nintendo released the Wii U in 2006 without that tablet it could have sold way way more imo a motion control console in HD and later released a pro controller could have been huge
@@kokotheclown2588 True, at this point the Wii U just feels like a prototype switch to me. If they removed the Wii branding and called it something else it probably would have sold more and like you said they probably shouldn't have sold the tablet portion with it since even though it was a fun thing to use it ended up being a gimmick in most games or barely utilized
Friend codes have two purposes:
1. For the Nintendo to be the safest console for parents to let their children use, they need to have that extra layer of security. That means nobody can be contacted based on a username or random search alone. They added the feature recently where you can add recent players to your friends list though.
2. For them to have it be different, they'd need a more robust online system... which it's clear Nintendo aren't interested in implementing.
Also, the friend codes work for any two people that have a Switch, in lieu of any robust online infrastructure. The finding friends through social media thing is great, but if you don't have a friend on social media or you've found someone like at a con or something, the friend code is more convenient and/or the only option. Of course, a proper infrastructure would be even better, but this works without having to invest the time and money into making that.
34:33 lack of an internet browser was 100% due to 3DS piracy nightmare lol
True, but funny how removing it doesn't help the switch.
I think there was a way to access a web browser on the switch anyway, but only for like 15 minutes at a time
Wii U Piracy too
@@SuperTort0ise The infamous paper clip
Yeah, and then a freaking paperclip nuked their entire security.
Whether or not the Wii is your favorite it’s really fun to look back on the whole Wii ds era and the games
The 3ds and ds were peak Nintendo
Scott’s perspective is so interesting. He talks about “everyone” being whelmed by Wii U ports on Switch, but to over 90% of Switch owners, those are just games. Mario Kart 8DX in the real world was a huge phenomenon, I’d see people playing it together at lunch all the time. MK8 never had that impact. The novelty of the Switch’s concept elevated nearly every single one of its ports through like 2020 when it started to get old.
Great way to put it
They're just games for most because no one played the Wii U. Lol
Yup. The fact that they were ports only matters to the ten people who actively played Wii U games. For the vast majority of switch players they were just fun new games.
Mario Kart 8 definitely had a big impact when it released, it was just overshadowed by the PS4/XB1 hype.
I’m honestly annoyed by people complaining about the number of Wii U ports on Switch and how they aren’t new experiences.
Dude, like 95% of people who own a Switch don’t even know about the Wii U.
I'll fully expect the video to be the two consoles fighting to the death in a gladiatorial match.
Hey, this is Scott’s stash, consoles only get destroyed over on the main channel
weirdo, wannabe youtuber above 🤡
The Switch is easily my favorite console of all time. Having handheld console with PS3 level graphics without sacrificing battery life and being able to seamlessly put it on your TV is just an amazing feeling. I love it.
AH! Scott! Warn us next time you're gonna appear on camera! I thought you were gonna be showing us your hands over your carpet!
Not having to support separate tv and handheld consoles with games really helped Nintendo avoid software droughts for the Switch especially first party.
The Wii was so different from other consoles that it wasn't really competing with Sony or Microsoft. The Switch is a lot closer to a traditional console (plus other consoles incorporating things like motion controls) so it's compared to its competitors a lot more
1v1 the Switch is better, but the Wii excels far more in its own niche
An emulator doesn't do justice to the Wii experience, without the sensor bar, motion controls, etc, is not the same.
@saricubra2867 I agree as someone has a wii and tried out a Wii emulator, it's not the same experience.
@@ahmedhasan4966Yeah, that's why i have my Wii hacked, i have all of controller expansions and features combined with a massive 32inch CRT TV.
@saricubra2867 you can buy a device that let's you use wiimotes with the emulator, and it's way better than native wii
It plays just as well and let's you upscale to 1080p or even 4k
The device is called the dolphin bar
@@saricubra2867I think for a lot of people that emulate, they'd much rather have normal controls than the waggle fest that most Wii games are.
The next Nintendo console needs to have more games that utilize miis, even if they are otherwise non-mii games
Yeah its sad that Mii's are not used in newer games as much as they should be. Not sure why though. Why even give you the option to create one on Switch if your not going to do anything with them?
"needs"
Nah it dosent "need" to do that lmao
Next console might not even have Mii Maker imo for exactly the reason you pointed out that no games use it
perfect end to my day
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I'd argue the ports add to the character to the Switch
Take all those games from 10+ years ago that you loved and put em on a system you can now play anywhere
Edit:Skyrim is the perfect example
and games like the Arkham collection would've been great a year or two into the Switch's life for that point
Another couple of great features of the Switch:
Physical cards (although most games still need additional downloads anyway)
Less menu fluff so it boots up and loads games faster in general.
The Switch UI speed is underrated, boots from sleep mode instantly, OS is quick to do anything (except eShop which is a website), Wii, Wii U and 3DS all had speed issues
People sometimes just forget how important Mario Kart is. Most Mario Kart games sold more than the main series Mario game on the same console. For example, because Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was released the same year as the Switch, the Switch sold ridiculously well.
Boring
@@eternalrewind2190 I don't understand what's boring about it. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold almost 40 million more copies than Mario Odyssey. That's not even counting the 8 million of the Wii U version and the DLC of both the original and the booster course pass
@@joopvanhedel1372 wow Mario kart Zelda Mario all the same crap that's been around for the last 40 years so exciting.. only thing I do like is Metroid
@@eternalrewind2190 metroid has also been around for about 40 years lol
@@gobogoo2329 no duhhhh
it's wild to me thinking of how much the Wii's features make it seem like..... a toy, rather than a gaming console.
Like, I'm only older than Scott by a year or two? and I *_never_* used the News, Forecast, or Photo channels at all. I saw them as trite, meaningless trinkets clogging up my new game console
"Trite" may be a bit harsh.
Personally, I found the weather channel and photo channel quite charming.
Also never used the News, Weather, or Photos. Mii channel rarely. Netflix? Literally every single night.
The awesome detail of the Wii remote: It does not matter if you are right or left handed.
Very fun to watch these videos while animating! Loved this comparison
I will say, while it can feel like the Switch lacks character with its massive library of game ports, I think in a way that’s the Switches strongest point compared to every other generation. Thinking about it, the switch is really the first time someone could buy a Nintendo console with the mindset of, “this is going to be my primary console for playing all the new games” because lots of things coming out on PlayStation and Xbox were now also coming out on Nintendo. Then add on top of that all of the switches strong exclusives, you really have one killer console library!
Ok, Wii vs Switch is done. Now let's do Game & Watch vs PS5.
Game & Watch has more exclusives than the PS5 so my vote goes to it
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I find it interesting that the Wii was this console EVERYONE was talking about. Compared to Switch which, sure, it’s talked about but no Grandmother is picking that up for her assisted living home.
Oh god he's not showing the carpet, this is how you know this is serious...
Ok now this is a blue Wii moment
I genuinely prefer the UI and general system design of the Wii, ignoring my nostalgic bias. The fact that it's specifically themed to emulate TV channels, the deep Mii integration into games and apps, the background music. All this and even more for me helps contribute to a fantastic user experience that the Switch doesn't really measure up to
I remember at the time being pretty quickly dissapponted even as a kid with the Wii once the Wii Sports wore off. The gamecube had so many more quality first party titles.
The quality of the content on this secondary page is top tier
I personally do think the switch is the generally better console, but the wii does have alot more personality.
The Switch always has been the better console.
I do like the Switch more then the Wii to a certain degree but the Wii has way more personality. Im not sure why the Switch dose not have any of the charm Nintendo's previous systems had. Its kinda sad in my opinion.
Yeah even the GameCube has more personality and it boots straight into the game
@@roadrash2005 Yeah thats true lol.
Nintendo did not even give the Switch an interesting boot screen.
@@saricubra2867 true
The Switch was what got me back into gaming after being on and off during the WiiU era.
Had my Switch since 2017, will NEVER regret purchasing my Switch.
Downloaded Yuzu in 2022. I will never regret downloading and installing yuzu on me pc.
@@Caviar_KhaboInstalled Ubuntu in 2023. I will never regret downloading and installing Ubuntu on my switch.
@mudswim emulating retro games because their resell value is bullshit and there being a lack of modern availability makes sense, and I agree with that.
Emulating available games that you can easily purchase is just weak.
I have steam deck. i can play switch games better than switch can AND with mods. won't regret that.
@@thephonelad992 good for you
3:36 good to know I'm not the only one with an obsession with this map, the star hotels were GENIUS!
The Wii holds a special place in my heart. I’m the definition of a ‘casual gamer’. I only really play video games with people if I have guests over or whatever, and it’s usually like Mario kart or something. I’ve owned my wii since 2009, I got it for my 13th birthday and it was my first video game experience. I still have it, and it still works really well! When the switch released I would have bought it, but I was in college and didn’t have a single cent of spare money to spend. Now I could afford one, but I probably will hold out for the next console at this stage. But I totally see the appeal of the switch, I think its appeal was similar to the wii in many ways!
The Switch wins hands down, but the Wii did have good games that I played back in college. I played Mario Party games, Mario Galaxy, Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Zelda Twilight Princess. Also the biggest reason I even go back to Wii, is the Wii and GameCube disc playback, those games you can play natively and I occasionally have it at birthday parties since you can Melee and the classic Mario Party games on the Wii!
The third part support on Switch alone blows the Wii out of the water. There's just so much more variety on the Switch.
I'm super okay with the Switch being port-city. The Wii U bombed so bad (never even hit 15 million sales) that very few people actually even got to play many of the original games on it. And with the closure of the Wii U virtual console and online services shutting down in a month, there will be even less of a reason to go back and play Wii U unless you virtual console games already downloaded on there. I'll gladly take more ports especially since the Switch is nearing the end of its life cycle. Gimme Windwaker HD, Twilight Princess HD, and Xenoblade Chronicles X.
The wii had most of its shovelware physical while the switch has most of its shovelware on the eshop.
CRAZY new angle, I dig it
Thank you for the Koopa's Tycoon Town praise idk why nobody talks about how its the holy grail of mario party
The second you said "Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite of all time" I subbed lol
What I liked is how it presents this sort of like a conversation between a younger and older version of oneself. The Wii had a lot of dumb fun games and features which were part of its charm. The Switch I feel is a more practical system, since it did a lot of things fans of Nintendo had asked for a long time, but at the same time is merely about is a more utilitarian console, and in some cases more about bring a lot of old things instead of coming up with new weird things, not saying any approach is worse, is just a the grass is always greener type of feeling.
I opened TH-cam at the right time
Hey Scott's Stash had Scott the Woz on as a surprise guest!
I remember a description for Age of Calamity being "Tragedy Blue Balls" and that's super accurate for my perception of the game.
My dream is to get a Nintendo system as overall solid and impressive as something like the Nintendo Switch or the Super NES but with as much fun and personality infused into it as something like the Wii or Nintendo 3DS. While I don't expect that to happen and completely understand and respect why they have chosen to move away from including superfluous fluff with the Switch, I do quite miss that stuff.
"Survivor of the Nintendo Dust Bowl grumpy at how good the kids have it on this popular golden age console."
"Back in mah day! We had to appreciate the rock we got! And we had to share the rock!"
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The Switch, technically, is a lot closer to Xbox One than Xbox 360, but not all games make the most of it.
It's definitely closer to X360 in terms of performance.
And honestly, its unlikely that 'Switch 2' will even be as powerful as Xbox One.
@@N.i.E.M.O no the switch is definitely a lot more powerful then the xbox one its memory it has is more then 8 times as much which helps alot and only one gig less of available ram as the xbox ones base model (shared memory in all cases) its weird to compare the cpu as its arm versus not arm which is apples to oranges performance wise as they work fundamentally differently but the switch has 4 cores at a lower clockspeed then the xbox 360s 3 cores its clock speeds are relatively close to the xbox one which is also technically clocked lower then the 360 which is all ignoring generational changes to how cpus work
the switch is alot closer to an xbox one then a 360 the 360 is also weird to compare to because it uses powerpc based architecture and the xbox one is x86
i cant edit my comment the first instance of xbox one i meant xbox 360 the switch is a lot more powerful then the xbox 360
@@jh302
It's certainly more capable than an Xbox 360, and it has the benefit of supporting more modern architectures, but at the end of the day, performance is still closer to the 360 than Xbox One.
And that will still ring true for the 'Switch 2', which will be barely more powerful than the current Switch.
The Switch 2 will live or die by its new 'gimmick', just as the Wii did, despite it being basically a copy-paste of the Gamecube but with a 50% upgrade in clock speed.
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And I reckon, it will fail. Massively.
Nintendo always gets stupid when they come off a success.
@@N.i.E.M.O your massively overstimating how powerful the xbox 360 is
The Wii comes from an era where everyone was bringing their A game and breaking new ground. Nothing today compares to the sheer wealth of innovation & personality from that period in time.
please do a series like this! N64 vs GameCube etc.!!
i love this chill and loose style of stream
The Wii so timeless it’s like a board game it doesn’t matter how long it’s been out if you get a group of people together and play it you’re gonna have a fun time
27:38 No, this is a very fair assessment and I agree; the Nunchuck/Classic Controller being optional absolutely shaped how open and sprawling games could be. Galaxy’s weird D-Pad camera exemplifies this perfectly, as is the choice to make it more linear than its predecessors.
there are so many good shooters on the Wii too. The fact that genre has so many decent entries on that console, and also fun FPS games (conduit and the CoD ports mainly) that play totally unique, will always keep it relevant
I was looking for a video just like yours right now thank you. Just nice and wholesome
Crazy that the Wii branding and product design looks more modern than the Switch's.
Whereas the UI is the opposite.
It doesn’t at all
Damn I never realized that the Switch was only 3 years old when the PS5 and Series X/S released.
Only one of those has Galaxy 2
Odyssey>Galaxy 2
True, It didn't not have to be that way though if Nintendo actually put effort into making 3D all stars.😂
Wii was gas back in the day.
Could watch Netflix on it back when Blu-Ray players were super expensive and watch TH-cam too.
By that logic, the PS3 was lightyears better because it had third party support, has a native blu ray player and has an HD output...
The PS3 is the only console from that generation from that era that aged well, both the XBXO360 and Wii didn't.
Game consoles should be game consoles, not personal computers. I don't want firmware upgrades, I don't want online stuff, I don't want media playback, I don't want game updates, I don't want security holes. N64 was the last real game console. GameCube and PS1 were shitty personal computers. 🌈 @@saricubra2867
@@saricubra2867Yes, but the PS3 was 600 bucks until the Slim redesign and the Wii was 250…
Like, you didn’t see my original point. It was gas for the _price_
A fact cruelly missing from the design portion! The switch in docked mode with the joycons attached to the controller thingy makes the joycons look like a dog. 10/10
Conduit 2, Call of Duty MW3, The Mario Galaxy games, Resident Evil 4 and Darkside Chronicles (the second one), Dead Space Extraction.
As someone who never had a Wii U, I very much appreciated all the ports that came to Switch. Never would have played Mario 3D World otherwise, and it's easily one of my favorite Mario games of all time.
Nothing beats playing Mario Kart on the Wii with the racing wheel.
What a great present to wake up to on my 30th Birthday!
Thanks Scott. I always enjoy your analysis.
I was just happy that people got to experience all of the great Wii U titles, that so many people missed out on the first time around.
Swotch the Wiiz
I disagree with the idea of game ports on each system. The remade Wii games might've been better at using the strengths of the system, but they felt like you were getting the kid's version of the game. At least with the crappy Switch ports you're still getting basically the full game that other systems have.
What do you mean by this?
To tell the truth, a lot of Nintendo fans for so long were waiting a console that finally would brought back the 3rd parties back, they wanted the ports, and the same people didnt saw the "exclusive 3rd party" games on wii as a identity, was more likea excuse: "We cant port resident evil 5 for wii, so here, a shoot'n rail resident evil that looks like RE5, but isn't", this games were de decoys, for the fans dont call the publishers of lazy for not support the wii.
Not sure you got it right about the features. The Wii's internet connectivity might not be anything big by today's standards, but think back to the time of the Wii: not too many things had internet connectivity except PCs and that made the Wii ideal for streaming Netflix. I watched thousands of hours of Netflix, and even a significant amount of Prime TV on the Wii, and the interface was awesome too. I would have given the features category to the Wii just on the internet connectivity alone.
The PS3 and Xbox360 were literally out that generation what are you talking about lmao
I smoked weed and played Mario kart with the girl from The corner store last night standing the thing up, vision fulfilled
Am I dumb.. I just realised that Switch has Wi in it
Some Underrated Wii Titles: GT Pro Series, Vancouver Olympics, F1 2009, NASCAR 2012, and Outdoor Challenge (It had a mat controller and used it pretty well)
7 years later and Scott still forgets that you’re intended to use JoyCons with the connector.
The Wii to the Switch is the Gameboy to the GBA. The factually better console that is covered in good ports vs funny green brick
Switch loses in the feature category and it's not even close
I still can't believe how underpowered they both were. The weak jagged graphics, all the issues and yet sold better then anything out there.
8yo gotta play somthing mum is okay with
I'd unironically say that a weather app on the Nintendo Switch makes more sense than on the Wii, given you're often going outside with your Switch as opposed to your Wii being stuck connected to a TV indoors.
We've graduated from carpet Scott to desk Scott
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My uncle got a wii near launch and only wanted it because of the hype. He ended up giving me the wii after he realized I would enjoy it more
Both consoles have a special place in my heart for the amount of games and content it provides.
HOLY SHIT SCOTT THE WOZ
I had a Wii. There were some good games, but it never blew me away. Everything I liked was mostly 1st Party. Only a few 3rd Party games, like Tatusnoko Vs. Capcom. To me, the Wii was mostly like the N64; a toy console with a handful of great games.
On the other hand, my Switch is my dominant system in my collection. I have all the PS5, an Xbox One X, and my Switches (A Switch Lite and the OLED). As of this writing, I have 220 Switch games (physical copies), with more on the way.
My Switch library is loaded with 1st and 3rd Party current games, retro styles games, rereleases, and indie titles. I do admit, I never owned a WiiU. The Wii only had that handful of great games, and the WiiU looked largely the same to me, but with less. Thankfully, many WiiU greats did come to the Switch, and I have them in my library. They were all new to me, so I’ve never cared about them being rereleases.
I adore my Switches. They get played far more than either my Xbox of PS5, though the PS5 is picking up some steam as of late.
The Switch is just amazing to me. I’m not even bothered in the slightest about the successor being delayed another year. To me, anything Nintendo puts out will be good, but there is no way the next system will see the same level of success as the Switch.
Either on-the-go, or at home on the TV, the Switch is fantastic. It’s the best thing Nintendo has made since the NES/SNES/GameBoy era.
I can’t wait to buy this one
Always happy to see one of Scott’s friend edited a video
The Wii Remote is great. It's also iconic. Joycons are just cheap plastic junk that feel like they will break if they drop once, and they have the horrible drift problem.