Take-Off and Land At Class Bravo Airports | Class B Radios and ATC Communications

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  • In this video we're going over how to land at a busy bravo airport WITHOUT getting yelled at. Bravo airspace is considered the busiest airspace with the big fast jets. Not to mention the fastest talking air traffic controllers around. Even I missed what ATC said in a few calls. Thanks for stepping in Joe.
    Speaking of Joe, this flight couldn't have been possible without our friend Joe Coraggio of Ramp Rat Racing. In one flight we touched Class D, C, B, A, and G airspace in his BEAUTIFUL Lancair Legacy which was still setup for the Reno Air Races! Make sure to check him out over on Instagram and give him a follow! - / rampratracing
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  • @Roblox_Lover_12345
    @Roblox_Lover_12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! Awesome plane. When I stopped short of getting my IR I was taught CRAFT for clearances.
    Clearance (cleared to)
    Route
    Altitude
    Frequency
    Transponder.
    Just as you laid out. Easier to write when you know what is coming. Fun video to watch!

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. Thats exactly what I used here, and probably forever.....

  • @glennwatson
    @glennwatson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Backseat pilot here. Don't you hate it :) 5:11 isn't an actual clearance but you read it back like it was. I've been taught since it's purely an advisory respond with callsign only or at least prefix with the expect

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True. There are all kinds of ways to do it, especially more efficient one.

    • @glennwatson
      @glennwatson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flywiththeguys great video regardless making it less intimidating for people who are used to uncontrolled airports.

  • @Aerialphotovito
    @Aerialphotovito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great break down of the Bravo procedures , always a good reminder thanks.

  • @kitt28
    @kitt28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    if i had to learn anything from the awesome video, that is not to land at a Bravo Airport

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL. I know what you mean.

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only thing to fear at a Bravo airport are ridiculous ramp and FBO charges. As long as you've looked at the airport diagram ahead of time and keep it out while on the ground, its not any different than being at a Class D.

  • @JoeDRushing
    @JoeDRushing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful!! I was recently diverted for to weather on flight following and rarely go to towered airports!! Nerve racking to say the least

  • @thomaswells4976
    @thomaswells4976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super helpful video that makes bravo less intimidating!
    And... I need a Lancair Legacy... That's the dream plane!

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was fun to fly in, STUPID fast for a prop plane.

  • @Eva-cs5le
    @Eva-cs5le 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent & very helpful video, thank you

  • @cameronwells768
    @cameronwells768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how raw this is..it’s ok to forget and to make a few minor mistakes..I think I beat myself up way to much early on in my training and finally realize ATC is there to help..thank you for this!

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea, whenever you saw Joe talk in the beginning, its because I lost it and he stepped in to help.

  • @anonymousiv7373
    @anonymousiv7373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos man, too good 👍🏼

  • @griffonwings5177
    @griffonwings5177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My gosh i wish to have u as neighbor to help me out in this journey!! Thank you immensely for all this heads up ⬆️. Being so many years dreaming to get the license. You definitely give me a great buster.
    THANK YOU

  • @garuda0127
    @garuda0127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video as always

  • @MrSam-db1vw
    @MrSam-db1vw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t seen your Run up at class bravo, but I assume it’s just like what you did at class C and class D. Thanks a lot that was very helpful.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In this video we did it just before we made our call for holding short. Didn't want to blast the ramp.

  • @user-cn2cd7ue3m
    @user-cn2cd7ue3m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative video

  • @av8r883
    @av8r883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much easier if you are on an IFR flight plan. Great video.

  • @keithhoward9238
    @keithhoward9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @PARTner91
    @PARTner91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We’ll done, Carl. It’s fun to operate in Class Bravo. It’s easy once you learn.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Transitions aren't that bad for me. This was a little overwhelming. Going back through and editing it, I've learned a lot.

  • @ele4853
    @ele4853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I flew into Phoenix class B airspace twice as a student pilot last two weeks. My CFI needed to go to AeroGuard to pick up equipment at DVT. Just flying by the PHX, not landing. What a nightmare! So easy! prone to no error due to all information provided by so many different frequencies and different controllers. You did it with a friend and I did it with my CFI. Alone it is way! better! So pleasant! 😅😂😅😂 I was flying the aircraft maintaining altitude and changing the squak when called to. That was all I was doing and listening to the radio. This is a great activity for masochists, or the "smart" people. I saw you struggling to speak on the radio and you have more flying hours than I do. Imagine flying alone! What a dream! 😂😅😂😅😂 No! thank you! I have no reason to do that whatsoever. It's a nonsense and dangerous. I just got my PPL and intend to never go back again into this air trap. I am still thinking about the whole nonsense that it is to fly in the U.S. with all the confusing, contradictory and overwhelmingly load of info that pilots have to deal with. We see people killing themselves all the time and NOBODY even say anything about what I just said. NONSENSE. Flying in the U.S is a HUGE NONSENSE. The FAA has the guts to say it's for safety. Really? "multitasking" requirements to "safely" flying? This is an issue to start debating and discussing for the safety of aviation. Looks like you like to teach about aviation. This is a great subject for you. As for me, I am still trying to find a way to fly around here in ways to avoid the NONSENSE. Thanks for the information and Congratulations for the bravery of doing so and sharing. It gave me one more reason NOT to go into class B. Can't wait to retire and go to a place that has no "controlled" airspaces.

    • @par5eagles
      @par5eagles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally, having flown under/around the phoenix bravo, and done the transition some dozens of times, I find flying the transition under positive control to be FAR safer way to traverse the area from north to south and vice/versa. To each their own, but I think flying through bravo is no big deal and is something every pilot should keep in their bag of tricks. It's also really fun!

  • @AlanTheBest97
    @AlanTheBest97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello I'm a student pilot but I fly on uncontroled fields mostly. Could you do a video on what all the Yellow Lines mean and what you should do and say to cross them. I know I should know this but I dont have many of them where I usualy fly.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have that on my docket of stuff to do. Need to coordinate with my field on it though.

  • @HeyIFoundACamera
    @HeyIFoundACamera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's always so hard to understand what ATC says, whether it be static or just their speed. Will definitely try Plane English, but it's still my biggest concern.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still struggle with it, and I fumbled a few calls. Had Joe pick them up for me. Even I cant understand them all sometimes. You just ask them to say again, or speak slower.

  • @someone3.2007
    @someone3.2007 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I'm planning on getting a ppl soon. Quick question, do I need to bring an iPad with an app that displays the airspaces around me or sectionals if I'm flying in VFR?

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope. It all seems intimidating now, but it's a lit easier than you think. When you learn to fly you'll learn on paper charts anyways. I picked up the iPad towards the tail end of my training. It simplifies the workload on the ground and in the air. Great tool to have, but not needed.

  • @fuballer2066
    @fuballer2066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have a typo at 3:16. 385AZ instead of 385AS

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was bound to happen. I was moving through this one quickly. Thanks for the heads up though!

    • @rainyfoxx4900
      @rainyfoxx4900 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol that was my question as well. Thank you

  • @idktbh7108
    @idktbh7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve decided the date for my flights. january 20th and 21st. maybe i’ll see you in the sky above phoenix

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll be around for sure. Probably flying myself. =)

    • @idktbh7108
      @idktbh7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flywiththeguys Where do you rent? i’m still trying to find places and people to fly with.

  • @christophergaus3996
    @christophergaus3996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a dream to touch-and-go at Ohare one day

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NICE! BTW, they'll tell you no. You'll have to do a landing and take off like we did. Sometimes they'll even deny you a taxi back. It's all business at bravo airports. Plus there are the FBO fees. We talked to Cutter before hand and asked them if they would wave ours if we mentioned them in the video. They were nice enough to do so, thus the shout out.

    • @christophergaus3996
      @christophergaus3996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@flywiththeguys Ahhh, I've seen videos of GA landing at Ohare, but no touch and go. I guess that is why! 🖖

  • @alpenglow1235
    @alpenglow1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turbulance is spelled “turbulence”.

  • @kent5651
    @kent5651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious if you’re required to state that you’re EXPERIMENTAL. Does ATC even care? Why not just a simple Lancair?

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cut it out, but we did get asked what we were flying, even with that info. So I would have to say yes. Shocked me to. After we were asked I found out I was supposed to tell them we were flying a LEG2.

  • @tmusky1134
    @tmusky1134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, no thanks. I'll just fly in to Scottsdale and Uber the rest of the way