Beechcraft King Air VIOLATING ATLANTA CLASS BRAVO | Departures Affected
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*It was at this moment 77PF knew...* (Continue the sentence in the comments)
he fricked up
he foxtrot uniform'ed
@@dan_whalethen LOL
he did an oopsie
...that he's probably going back to flight school.
When they give you TWO PHONE NUMBERS TO COPY, might as well just dial 911 and turn yourself in! :D
xD
nah, he should have just requested clearance to land on the runway that the jetliner that had to dodge him used... but he should have landed going the other direction.
We call that "shooting the moon" where I'm from.
Lol
He thought he won the lottery
@@ahgflyguy ATL tower 7PF request the option on 9R
At what point did he think to himself "Oh look, what a great view of the departure end of ATL!"... and then "Why are these huge airliners repeatedly passing so darned close to me!?"
"Yeah, i mean that one even dare to fly directly under me! How dare he pulls that kinda stunt, little ruskal!"
Or so he must have thought
Hahaha
"And that one just flipped me off!"
Hey, Tower, you're sending traffic way too close to me!
You’ve hit the problem squarely - he didn’t. No SA - situational awareness - whatsoever. He was oblivious to where he is, the instruction to remain clear of class B, and the passenger jets climbing straight toward him from the runway below - the whole “v” in VFR.
Thinking through the scenario one step further - Aside from the obvious mid air collision, he’s taking a huge risk flying right through the wake of the much larger jets. ATL elevation is 1026, so he’s flying at less than 2500 AGL, which leaves little margin for a major upset recovery. All it would take is one of the jets flying over him instead of under, and maybe the last thing he sees through the windscreen is ground-sky-ground-sky-ground-sky?-nopeground spinning madly. I’m being a little glib, but what he did was profoundly dangerous and foolish on more than one level.
The fact that the controller had to say "the one you violated first" probably gave the guy a heart attack
Multiple numbers to copy down in a single incident. Not even Harrison Ford has "accomplished" that. Congrats N77PF, you're going to the FAA superbowl.
Leggo My Ego As someone whos unfamiliar with this kind of stuff, what do these numbers mean for the pilot in question?
Not a single incident. He first violated Class B airspace, then he violated Class D airspace.
Swiss Remember being sent to the principals office when you were in grade school? Kind of like that. Pilot should have the same sinking feeling in the pit of his stomach.
@@kurttappe what will be the typical punishment
@@bgamelson LOLOL Atlanta doesn't have ANY class D airspace. It's all class B.
You can do anything you want in aviation, but most things you can only do once.
Tiago Seiler. I like that, I'll have to remember that!
So true.
I guess he picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
Well, you can always start sniffing flowers.... (I love the airplane quote)
Striker! What the hell is going on up there!
@@FrozenHaxor What's the vector Victor?
He didn't have clearance Clarence
Not forgetting that he was over Under who was flying the Delta
Ummm yeah Atlanta Approach? I’d like to report a Delta jet that came very close to my flight path.
Tim Hultsman reminds me when Harrison Ford landed on the taxiway. “Is that jet suppose to be there?”
@@vonw.3294 When Ford called the tower he goes "Yeah I'm the putz that landed on your taxiway."
Hahahaha I forgot about that
@@sfmc98 schmuck not putz
@@jakesnussbuster3565 Thank you for that correction. It lead me to look up the difference between the two words:
"Even though they don’t seem similar, putz and schmuck share the same meaning in Yiddish. Schmuck comes from shmok meaning penis. And putz comes from putz, which is another word for penis."
TIL
When you’re flying through some of the busiest airspace in the world, right through the inner ring of the ATL class B - departure corridor even, ATC and the FAA are going to want to know what in the hell possessed you to go DIRECT YOLO.
he was probably flying Miss Daisy... so he figured that he had special clearance
Stealing that one. CLEAR DIRECT YOLO SOONNNNNNN
Harrison Ford is back in the pilot seat?
Don't know if the pilots and pax in the other aircrafts would have had same enthusiastic YOLO attitude.
It's really direct KDWA, in Yolo Co.
This is quite something. I thought he’d just nibble off a corner but nope hurf de durf straight down the middle
Mark Pentler nibbling a corner won’t get you got if you’re not in anybody’s way and the controller isn’t being a jerk.
RADIOACTIVEBUNY oh really? That’s interesting to know. I would have thought you’d light up as soon as you stray over a sector line
Straight down the middle would have actually been better ... this moron managed to end up right in the way for climb-out and with flying over the middle of all those parallel runways he'd at least not manage that mess, nor would he be in the way of missed approaches at 3500 ft.
Go big or go home, I guess
That's where I thought this was going too, a strayed turn and away but no, full Banzai Headband Switch was engaged. Is there such thing as a breathalyser for pilots? It may have been needed here, surely?
ATL: So, what was your name sir, for the report?
7PF: *LEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOY JEEENKIIIIIINS!*
Goddamit Leroy....
🤣🤣🤣
At least he has chicken!
Damn me I choked and spit coffee all over my screen.
FAA: Sir, what the hell were you doing?
Pilot: Just following the magenta line. What?
“That’s who you violated first...” The pilot might have been better off at that point to claim an instrument or an engine failure and crash the plane. That’d probably hurt less than what’s coming once he lands.
QuintinAR15 what are the potential consequences due to his violation?
@@fathungryboy123 depends on how the FAA feels, but it likely ranges from a stern talking to up to license suspension/revocation.
I imagine if injuries would've occurred the pilot could even be charged criminally.
This is not a small bravo bust, he placed a lot of commercial air travelers in danger. FAA is very lenient these days with small bravo busts but I'd guess he's getting a 3 month suspension and a check-ride before he's allowed to fly again.
@@fathungryboy123 this was a pretty serious violation and he’s lucky he didn’t end up in a midair collision. I’d venture he will likely end up with a suspension of his license and a 709 ride
Kissed his own ass good bye haha
I can't believe how much your English has improved since you started this channel! You put a lot of work into learning a new language and it shows!
Hi my name is Johnny Knoxville, welcome to Jackass, aviation edition.
Except in most cases you end up dying from your first skit. Hi Welcome to Jackass and this is "Engine quit, turning back to the airport"
How the hell do you not look out the window on the pilots side and not think “hey that huge airport is pretty close”?
and took out his iPhone and took a picture.
and that massive passenger airliner is headed straight at me
This is terrifying. But Mr. Private Pilot did not seem to understand the implications of his massive f*ck up. But I'm sure the.FAA will explain it in full detail as they shred his license.
@@sarahalbers5555 dude: Who should I schedule my retest with? FAA: HAHAHAHAHahahahahAHHAHAHAhaha
@@IntegralKing Dear Alan, anyone of our highly trained, professional DMV employees would be happy to help you. Specifically, the DMV in Northern Va. If you can endure that, you would entitled to get your license back. Just a few tips: arrive no later than 0515, do.not make eye contact with ANYONE, and make sure you don't eat or drink anything for at least.12 hrs. because the restrooms are in a secret location. Bring along a fun read, maybe War and Peace, or 2001 Fun Craft Projects. Scout out a friendly bar or liquor store to patronize on the way home. And you will need a designated driver, because the DMV usually closes before you get processed. I am not joking about this. My mom got her wallet stolen. She wasn't worried about her cash and credit cards-no, it was having to go to DMV!!!
"N77PF, you are cleared to take your coloring book and leave the server."
Welcome to Steam Edition
Lmao
"N77PF, you are cleared to go ahead and ALT+F4 right now"
We need the laughs, but seriously, who is this guy, could have gotten really ugly real quick. Bless you safe, professional pilots. Private or Airline.
@@paulevans9307 "And he's gone space shuttle status."
*Two* phone numbers? Oh boy.
Double the fun, I guess.
Just to emphasize the low tech aspect, he can only call tracon at this number using a land line with a rotary dial
@@RipRoaringGarage To be honest, I wasn't sure if he's serious - I heard couple years ago America still rocked mostly magstrip&sign cards for example :v
I've heard of the dreaded phone number, but this is the first time I've heard of a pilot getting TWO phone numbers. Better just mail that pilot's license back to the FAA...
flying directly into the departure airway of the busiest airport in the world is quite an achievement. And he won the price, his licence is off
It's a shame he's forgotten that 91.503 paragraphs (a)(3) and (d) say, respectively, that he must not only have the pertinent charts, he's actually required to look at them.
In fact the FAA could not make it easier. There is an "Atlanta Flyway" chart specifically for planning VFR outside the TRACON class B. Bold blue friendly lines show a path west then south. There are waypoints for a GPS too. The recommended route would have been:
- Remain outside 12 NM from ATL VORTAC
- Remain below 3000 feet.
- Use loose RNAV to avoid traffic concentration.
- West departure following Interstate 20, pass near VPLRF
- Left turn south, pass River Bend and VPKNM.
- South, pass VPJBF, then:
- Direct Thomaston-Upson airport. May climb, remain below 4000 feet.
- After crossing highway west of Peachtree City, remain below 5000 feet.
- After crossing west of Atlanta Regional Falcon airport, near transmission lines, remain below 6000 feet.
- Outside 30 NM from ATL, no altitude restriction.
Navigate using Atlanta Terminal Area chart and Atlanta Sectional (destination airport is just beyond the southern edge of the TAC).
Jordan Rodrigues You have the most informative post on here. Thank you for posting it. The fixes are unpronounceable for a reason because ATC won’t assign them and all a pilot has to do is plug them in. Those charts keep you and everyone else safe. That’s the reason ATC exists.
@@robertblaich "Viplerf" "Vipgnome" "Vipjobf" ;)
That's something I'd more expect from a student pilot or someone flying around class B the first time. Someone in a king air should know better.
Usually they don't let anyone near the controls of a twin turboprop until they've got at least a commercial and a few hundred hours. Back in the paper and pencil days you could make the argument about not seeing landmarks due to low light or vis but in this glass moving map era, nah, you can see where the bad starts and to stay out of the bad.
77PF needs to ask Maverick for that truck driving school's phone number.
"...Truck Masters, I think it is?..." lol
I hear swift is hiring!
I wish I had the balls to think a VFR flight negates Atlanta Class B Airspace. Ha
Probably good that you don't, as you will live longer.
The only one with balls that big is Harrison Ford!
maybe ATL is class G at 11 in the morning
Looks like his FAA registration was expired at the time, too.
Nice catch. Expired 2 days prior. Guess he thought he could skim by that regulation, too.
Oh no he's in soooo much trouble
Expired January 31st. Yikes yikes yikes yikes yikes.
@Anthony ImBoden FlightAware has basic plane registration info
So I get curious and I look up the tail numbers sometimes. N77PF has an expired certificate as of January 31, 2020. so yeah I saw this too. He was all kinds of foxtrot uniform that day.
"He is a danger to everything in the air! Yes, including the birds!"
And people say drones are dangerous?
@@knife-wieldingspidergod5059 There was a "test" carried out somewhere a while back where they took a section of an aircraft wing and launched a drone into it to see what would happen and they tried claiming that drones are super dangerous... But what the omitted from releasing publicly was the speed and impact force of the drone when they conducted the test... Eventually they did disclose that information and it turns out to cause the damage that they were showing, the aircraft would have to be travelling at least triple it's maximum rated speed... Obviously this would mean that the plane would be overspeeding massively and probably already be in the final few seconds of a fatal nose-dive right before slamming into the ground.
@@GabbieTheFox A drone's not gonna rip off a wing. But it would likely get sucked into a jet engine.
Personally not a fan of the new introductory information being read aloud. I loved how the prior intros didn't take much time at all before going into the ATC communications / radar / animations. I can read the introductory information at my own pace; if I needed more time, I can pause the video.
I'd maybe also not mind the intro if it didn't scroll upwards; if the information were all on-screen at once, I could read it and skip ahead if I didn't want to listen to the whole intro. As it is now, I have to skip far enough to a point where the full intro is readable, then skip further ahead after reading it myself (I also personally don't think citing liveATC verbally is necessary in the intro, maybe as an outro? but a link has already been in the description in all videos so /shrug).
That said, this is probably preferential for some, and it's cool to see you trying different things. The video itself remains very high quality. Love the content.
Thanks for the feedback!
agreed.
I like reading out, it is useful when I also do something else, such as eat at McDonald's right now :)
I like the audio AND I understand: VAS has to add to the presentation lest he be accused (and he has been) of Just pilfering from other ATC sources. So suck it up buttercup. . . You’re on guard.
I like the read out too
Needs his certs suspended. Period. No way you don’t notice flying over one of the busiest airports in the country with multiple TCAS incidents
Bearded Barnstormer not to mention a delta heavy flying straight toward you 😂
Agreed.
Oh yeah, and the pesky Delta jet...
@@NorthwestAeronaut SERIOUSLY even in the flight levels when jets fly over your like Daaaaaaamn
"Multiple TCAS during a prolonged non-trivial Bravo bust" = he's getting a suspension, possibly 6 months, possibly a year
Someone probably told him once “Hey Atlanta Class B airspace starts at 3500ft above our airport here in Fulton”. So he is like ok if I just climb to 3500ft I should be fine. Lol
"Yeah we've got him on the fish finder" best term used for a TCAS I've ever heard
lol yeah especially with that southern accent, shame that they mis-transcribed that part in closed captions
Particularly so, since "fish" fits perfectly in this case, given it's use to describe an inexperienced/clueless person 😂
I love how the pilot says “we got him on the fish finder” and the text says “systems”
fish finder
@@VASAviation this is why I only watch aviation videos when I drink and not go flying 😂
I mean what was going through his mind? That is insane.
Assuming that it is not being insane - nothing - because he thought all is fine until he got a number to call.
@@norbertblackrain2379 or until he saw the shadow of a heavy Airbus A330 coming at him? :)
@@blee3264 given how much attention he paid before that a less likely option ... okay its easy to make jokes as a desk pilot .. i admit it .
what's about as insane is still letting acft depart..
@@norbertblackrain2379 But he had to know Atlanta was one of the busiest airports in the world and he passed right by the runways. How could he have not known something is wrong? Did he think that airport below him was a class delta?
Also, his registration expired on Jan 31, 2020....
@Anthony ImBoden FlightAware shows it for one. I'm sure there are other sites too.
Yeah, the FAA records show that. This guy messed up big time
Probably just hasn’t updated
Two phone numbers to call and expired "licence plates", he's done. Time to go back to RC planes.,
Wow you’re right! Just confirmed it.
I've flown the Cherokee over the top of KATL several times. They'll give you VFR at 4500 north or south bound, right over the top of ATL. I guess this guy just forgot about the upside down wedding cake over him.
They key is you have to talk to them first and ask nicely. The pilot was rather rude and did not ask at all.
Two near midairs, one extremely close. ATL likely ripped him a new one... and I want to hear that recording!
Wow, 77PF flew into the departure corridor. Given the pilot's position he would have had a great view of the runways by glancing left.
Landing&Taking off on taxiways & wrong runways is soo 2019. He wanted us to step our game up for 2020.
Not having any personal knowledge of this type of work, it's interesting seeing such an innocuous statement from a layman's POV ("I've got a phone number for you to write down" or "do you have a phone number for me") have such grave implications in the world of aviation!
Wow, talk about scarey flying in ignorance into departures. I departed out of KIXD vfr and when I go to the north I know I have to stay under of KMCI Bravo. I had flight following and was cleared to climb to my cruise altitude while still under the bravo without hearing the “cleared into the bravo” so I still asked and got those super important words from ATC before climbing into it.
Note, if you are VFR following a climb or vector instruction (into Class B airspace) from ATC without the magic words will cause YOU to get the violation. I believe this has been proven in an enforcement case. Better to annoy the controller than have "a number to call".
Boy that huge airport sure is pretty this close up.....
I have seen a bunch of TH-cam videos about not using the term "fish finder" to mean "TCAS", and here we finally are at 2:16 seeing DAL837 using this wonderful term.
Dude is def from the south. "Eight-thirty-sev'm". He probably owns a bass boat with an actual fish finder
@@scose For sure.
For better or worse, "Fish Finder" is the term used for TCAS/ADS-B/TIS in cockpit traffic. Please just accept it.
3:03 "I've got TWO for you." LMAO!!!!!!!
"hey, I wonder why there are so many airplanes around here....kinda cool"
You know the puck factor for those airline pilots went up.
Wow that's insane. I've never seen someone bust through the Class B surface area even just like that. Very bad aviator.
Exactly....it is one thing to clip the corner of the outer ring of a Bravo but he practically flew right over the runways.
@@steven2145 Right over the runways would have been better.
I mean. Whatever the phrase that comes after bust the bravo is, that guy did it. Just direct through the surface ring? Ouch
And the ATL bravo really is one of the simplest bravos I've seen
Wow. Hard to imagine toodling along through the ATL departure corridor with airliners flying past you like that. Would love to hear the pilot's version of it and how he was so clueless about ATL airport as well as its associated Bravo.
Thank you, VASAviation for sharing.
Probably a foreigner. "No speaka da English"😂😂😂
Wow thought he’d just bust an altitude nope he flew right through the departures lol very professionally handled by ATL tracon.
If the pilot realized what he did going through class B, oh boy, I would just crack my instrument, declare an emergency and land. Much less punishment to be expected. But two phone numbers to call...
77PF calls the first number: "Yeah, I busted, guess I'll have to do a 709 ride." ATL TRACON: "709 ride... HAHAHAHAHA...."
"77PF, stand by to copy the entire phone book."
Out of curiosity, what kind of disciplinary action would the pilot be facing for this?
It depends. The pilot will have the choice of either the electric chair or death by firing squad.
As I have read,If its your first ever Violation, I would say a harsh warning. But if you endangered other aircraft/passengers, then a temporary suspension of your licence (maybe a few months) and maybe you will have to take a refresher flight with a CFI and ground school. In any case not as bad as what people make out to be. Not the end of the world.
he could possibly lose his license at the extreme, maybe be required to complete some training in order to regain his license, or maybe a very scary talk with some FAA people. I dunno, never had this problem personally, but that's my guess
He violated a protected airspace where thousands of people fly through it every day, so he did endangered the whole departure sector at ATL... I would say that he will get a hefty fine and/or a temporary pilot suspension, even license termination depending on how did his assigned inspector wake up that morning... Hard to say.
I agree with love jet fuel. I've been flying for 32 years and an ATP flying a King Air there's not much excuse, he should know better. A student pilot would probably get in less trouble because they sometimes make mistakes like that. An ATP would probably get a 2-4 month suspension and some retraining at least. That is one thing every pilot never wants to hear is ATC saying I have a number for you to call. My heart just raced up a little just thinking about it.
On occasion I’ve been cleared through ATL Bravo using Flight Following and taking an altitude change to 7,000-9,000 and flown directly over the runways. Sure feel bad for the guy that tried that w/o clearance.
A shame we’re missing the pilot’s side of this story.. it’s too crazy otherwise!
Boy you know you screwed up when they give you two numbers to call. Great video again VAS.
Good job with the video. What would be great is getting a copy of those phone conversations.
Why did I just paint that picture in my mind. Nasty
I believe it would sound something like the part of top gun where the guys are getting chewed out ...
i heard about this guy from some local forum groups, some quite interesting comments have been flying about this guy
Flight history shows aircraft to / from Caribbean recently...
@@capitankak hmmmmm
ill forward that info and see what they say.
one guy with inside knowledge ( i believe he is a Atlanta TRACON or ATL TWR controller ) said he was teetering the edge of being intercepted. they called him twice on the radios with no response, they had hands on the phones to Dobbins, and then he responded.
CapStar362 I definitely wouldn’t doubt it.
Good thing the FAA is protecting the public from my foam RC plane I fly at the park
Amen! This guy just went full kamikaze with 2 tons of metal and they’re concerned about 12oz foam planes!
I'm not from USA, so I'm not aware of the trouble they give with model planes - but I would love to hear the trouble they give this pilot :d
Lawyer teaching business law class told us a story about him as a kid and his Mylar balloon he accidentally lost and the Class Bravo runway 350 ft from his home.
He ended it with:
"And that was when I met my first government agency."
No kidding right?
Aaaand thats how people get killed.
The replay is slightly misleading. He was on a 1200 code until south of ATL so we had NO idea who he was.
Negative. He received a code on 121.0. That's why he was later told to squawk VFR leaving the Bravo descending to Upson.
VASAviation - He departed FTY on a VFR 1200 code. Once he was south of ATL by roughly 5-6 miles, he contacted approach, on 121.0, and was given an assigned beacon code. Until then, no one knew who he was, what he was doing, or what actual altitude he was at as the 035 was an indicated, not verified, altitude. Ashley S is correct on the replay being slightly misleading.
121.0 is an emergency frequency, folks. Unfortunately, we don't know what was being said to him on that frequency, nor what he could/couldn't hear or what emergency he may have had on board.
'thom-ston county airport' - "Toh-mas-ton" is how it's pronounced (silent H)
the airport is next to Dixie's aircraft food manufacturing plant and the QUAD printing plant (where all the sports illustrated, time, newsweek, people etc. are printed for the south) and about a mile from the ranch/home of the Chik-fil-A owners. Oh, and Skydive Atlanta.
so it's a busy little airport, with lots of clueless fliers.
We think it was a Beech99. But more important, the pilot has brown eyes, a mullet haircut and is wearing white socks with black shoes. Continuing climb.
Nice going!!! Hi diddle diddle right down the middle !!!
The only appropriate response to "possible pilot deviation" in a circumstance this bad would be "you didn't hear me call mayday a few miles back? Aircraft was hijacked. We've resecured the flight deck though, and threw the highjackers out the door. You want me to see if I can find the hijacker's certificate # though?"
I guess there really is a pilot shortage.
He nearly made it even worse!
Not just one number...he got multiple numbers to call 😂😂
How do you not notice ATL off the port side? I live in Oregon and can nearly see it from here.
Just FYI: On Friday, 31 Jan 2020 N77PF crossed directly over Hartsfield International Airport (KATL), well within class bravo airspace, on a heading of 005 degrees at an altitude of 4850 feet MSL at approximately 2017 hours on descent into Charlie Brown Airport (KFTY) also known as Fulton County Airport.
Good Grief!
5Rounds Rapid - The pilot of N77PF was 100 percent legal on Friday, 31 Jan 2020 as he crossed Hartsfield International Airport (KATL) class bravo airspace, because he was on an IFR approach into Charlie Brown Airport (KFTY) under the direction of Atlanta TRACON... aka Atlanta Approach Control.
Rick 6981 I was making a Charlie Brown joke...
5Rounds Rapid - It’s “Good Grief Charlie Brown”...lol
Haha! Saw the “2 phone number” thumbnail and clicked immediately!
Airforceproud does some of his best work in a Beech 100.
Probably the only time the pilot didn’t like it hearing “ readback is correct”
Insane. Violating and airspace that has no inferior limit is quite an accomplishment.
2 in 1. Nicely done
i know that voice for Atlanta Center 121.0 , i love that guy always a southern gentle giant with utmost professional conversations and upstanding controller.
At least he got a phone number for valentine's day.
Whew he missed us, followed by ah $hit....there goes my license
living so close to atl for my whole life and i KNOW how damn busy it is, ive come in and out of it too many times for me to remember. violating the airspace on the DEPARTURE END especially? thank god nobody was hurt!
you know you messed up when you violate TOWER airspace
Damn I was looking for some hot air balloon radar targets doing 350 knots around ATL and then realised that this wasn't an Airforceproud95 video...
Welcome to Steam Edition.
Pilot deviation phraseology should have 2 options:
-"Possible pilot deviation..."
-"Whoa Nelly I'm about to take your license..."
What are blue lives? Smurfs?
I'd be very curious to hear the part of the radio transmissions that were "missing" busting airspace that bad makes me think that something else was going on
The second number is just a recording on a loop of R. Lee Ermey yelling drill instructor quotes from Full Metal Jacket.
Comment below on your favorites.
Life-flight helicopters and law enforcement helicopters frequently enter ATL airspace. They always contact the towers and are assigned areas and altitudes. Still it looks dangerous on Flightradar24, especially in 3D View inside the helicopters.
I'm trying hard to think up a reason why the King Air pilot decided to fly that course and altitude. Surely...SURELY...he knew that ATL was just ahead of him and to the left. How could he *not* know?? And to just go bombing through there...amazing! The *only* thing I can think of is that the pilot assumed that he'd been "handed-off" to Atlanta Approach, like he would've been if he'd been IFR. But in fact, Fulton County Tower did no such thing. They cut him loose and said "See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya!" Then he asked Tower if he could contact Atlanta, and the Tower controller was, like, "Uhhhh, what? Sure, I don't care what you do. I've told you to remain clear of the Bravo, so you're on your own, baby!" And in the back of the King Air pilot's mind, he's thinking to himself, "Did I file VFR or IFR for this one? Hmm. Ahh well, better to ask for forgiveness than permission, I guess. Wait...is that a 767 ahead of me? Ooopsie!"
"Sorry Mr. ATC, I was just following the pretty little magenta line."
Wow! I've never heard of someone getting 2 numbers to call. Is this common? I assume this means a meet-and-greet with his friendly local FAA official?
One number for each controller whose airspace he busted, in this case.
I believe the reason is that there are TWO guys that will be pissed off at the paperwork (and happy he didn't shoot off any of their planes).
Sounds like he's in deep Dixie in this one.
That’s the runner up on air policing, the first would be a interception.
A few seconds of time difference could have turned this into a disaster.
I have to say, the Delta pilots handled this very well. ATC on it right away. Great job. It is kinda scary that these weekend pilots have no understanding of the term, Bravo airspace.
I didn't know Harrison Ford had a King Air.
on bucket list: see ATL departures up close. CHECK.
He thought he was at LAX (there is a Special Flight Rules Area that allows you to go "over the top" of LAX at 3,500' southbound with no Class B clearance). ATL has no such thing.
you can go over the top of ATL ... at 12500 ft.
Hello holly crap, that is hard to do you can see ATL from Fulton county at 500 AGL. Thanks for the video saludos Ibero
The FBO at KFPR is going be making a killing on ramp fees for 77PF because this pilot won't be flying it anywhere for a while.
Atlanta tower stayed really professional!
I have a question about a similar situation. I was on a VFR helicopter flight. We needed to enter class B for part of our mission so we flew to a field just outside the class B and contacted the tower. The tower gave us a squawk code and confirmed radar contact. After a few minutes they gave us permission to enter the class B and complete our mission. When we were done a few minutes later, we contacted the tower and told them we were out. They told us to resume 1200 and VFR operations. When we landed, the tower at our landing airport (not the tower at the class B airport) called and gave us a number for a possible pilot deviation. It turned out to be TRACON. The pilot told the person at that number that he had clearance from the tower. My question is, are you required to file with TRACON to enter class B or is what he did (with me on board) legal?
It is my understanding that the outer rings of the bravo are Tracom's domain and the inner sector is the tower's domain. Usually, you contact tracom for permission and if you need to cross the inner ring they coordinate with the tower. When the pilot "exited the Bravo" did he just exit the inner core but was still inside the outer core bravo or under it? Usually, they tell you to squawk vfr when they are done with you, you don't ask them although they can sometimes forget and then you tell them. It is possible Tracom didn't get the info that he was cleared directly by the tower instead of by them. He is probably fine because the tower logs and recordings will show him to be clear if he didn't violate the outer zones of the bravo.
Somebody in ATC screwed up and they were not communicating with each other. Once they investigated I'm sure the pilot had no issues.
@@steven2145 We were 150 feet off the ground, so "under it" is the most likely.
The "after a few minutes" indicates whoever you were taking to on the radio was coordinating via land line with TRACON. Make sure you ask for all the tapes to pulled and saved from both the tower and the TRACON. It will probably work out that the tower/TRACON coordination didn't fully "work" and this may resolve things - but you want those tapes!
Also, when you leave a Class B airport VFR you get your "Cleared into..." from the tower/clearance deliv, not tracon.
Oh boy, I really hope the pilots of this plane have a good excuse (hijack?) For almost crashing into two other planes !! And if it is through negligence, that they withdraw their flight permits with a stay in prison for endangering the lives of passengers! The ATC personnel remain extremely calm, well done! I think I would have screamed until I blew the mic to tell them to get out of there!
Thank you for making this video which explains very well the division of the airspace (I did not even know that it exists, I am totally new and just discovering these videos)
ATC: 77pf let me know when you can copy this number for a deviation report
77PF : hold on man, I dropped my bong, I’ll get back to you
Poor guy just really wanted to fly for the airlines, so he figured he could momentarily fuse his private plane with a commercial jet, if only for a few milliseconds.
Oh it would have been quick alright
Someone flying a king air is someone who’s had to have a descent amount of experience, and if you’re flying near a bravo often, I’d expect you to be even better because of the complexity of the airspace. I find myself so comfortable with the airspace around me that I can avoid deviations almost visually without looking at a chart and I only have 60 hours. What this pilot did makes no sense to me how you can make such a mistake
I hope the FAA revokes his pilot licence, IF he has one. This is more than just a little f...up.