I was on this flight with my 6 month old daughter and it was terrifying. Loud boom with the abrupt sound of the turbine tapering off. Some people thought they saw sparks. I didn’t personally. Glad to see the professional side of this was handled so well. No matter how rare it is I’m gonna be scared of flights from now on 😂.
I was your Captain. Thanks for your patience and remaining calm during a very stressful situation for you. Please let me know if I can ever be of assistance. Warmest regards.
I fly SWA all the time and have for decades, and this is exactly the kind of talent and professionalism I’ve come to expect. Thanx for all you do, and ATC and fire crews too.
@@rona4960 That’s debatable, sure 4 engines is quite a lot of insurance but with modern jet engines two is plenty for a passenger jet. We still use 747-400 and -800’s here at DHL and they’re aging poorly compared to these newer 777’s. Did you know some of our 747’s go out at close to a million pounds? Again for a passenger jet there’s really no need for four engines in this day and age, the redundancies and procedures and safety measures in place are miles better than they used to be.
actually it shows how air travel is going to shit, from pilots that don’t listen to shitty ATC like that dude in Austin or the one in Hawaii, to shitty maintenance, to inherently dangerous airport layouts and systems
I got my PPL there and, depending on the time of day, Phoenix can be very busy. Plus, there is a lot of GA traffic, as well as traffic from the many flight schools in the area.
Everyone did an amazing job, but I especially liked the clear dictation and cadence of the tower ATC. That was crystal clear. Also I'm super happy about the ground emergency incident commander repeating back to the tower what was told to him to confirm. I don't think enough ground ops do that and sometimes it makes things confusing because they aren't understanding the radio communication or the overall situation correctly.
I wouldnt be suprised if ground emergency crew were previous highly experienced commercial pilots by the clarity of transmissions and the quality of the comms. He knew what the pilots needed above and beyond what I've normally seen before they requested. Very on top of the process and proactive in his directives/information provided. Amazing
This is pretty standard fire ground communications amongst firefighters, repeating orders is a way to ensure the accuracy of information is received appropriately. Great work by everyone involved in this incident.
This video along with others show how well the aviators are trained and how well these guys and gals are under pressure. It’s not a video game and you get multiple tries. Great job!!!
I've noticed on a couple of these emergency landing transcripts that even though nothing dangerous or catastrophically broken was found on the aircraft after inspection by Fire Command, that the pilots always took the offer for an escort to the gate. That is some good captain work there. It would be foolish not to take the offer of an escort during taxi even if nothing is smoking or on fire, because that ONE TIME you refuse the offer, is the time the plane will explode in a ball of flame moments after the fire trucks pull away. That is how shit goes.
I'm always amazed at how calm everyone sounds during these situations. I understand that training takes over but I would still expect some level of stress in the voices. "...we're gonna roll this baby out as far as we can...How about we shoot for like maybe B10?" So casual in his voice. You could imagine that same tone when making plans for lunch with a friend. "Oh, let's shoot for noon at O'Malley's OK?"
@@markandrews7701 What is calm about calling a contained engine failure "catastrophic ". The Controller then wants to give the plane immediate return vectors. ....which are all denied with all that chat... A click bait failure.??
@@daftvader4218 It's meant to imply they won't be attempting a re-start. In our checklists it's referred to as " severe damage" but it means the same thing. The long vector is because there a number of checklists that need to be run in order to secure the engine and prep the airplane for a return at much higher approach speeds.
@@daftvader4218 A catastrophic failure is a sudden and total failure from which recovery is impossible. The good news is they have another one, so they have checklists they are required to run before landing for safety reasons. There's no clickbait here.
ATC: “no rush, but getting a little close to the Supes, might want to start thinking about making that turn here soon” lol all jokes aside, one heck of a job by all involved. As smooth as it could have been. Love the upbeat attitude of the pilot.
Southwest pilots are always so calm, chill about things. SW: Southwest 123 Tower? Tower: Southwest 123 go ahead. SW: Yeah our wing fell off may need to return.
@@triciac1019 - not to be expected from a professional airline pilot. They practice this stuff in the sim enough to be able to initiate an emergency call without waffling and failing to get anything of relevance across.
Great communication all around - very classy! This is how it should be done - with competence, courtesy and gratitude. Kudos to Southwest, ATC, and the emergency services for jobs well done!
Consider: the engine design contained the failure as designed, the flight crew flew the plane, navigated and communicated, and the ATC and emergency crews did their duty. Kudos to all.
PHENOMENAL work by all involved here. I cannot imagine the massive workload on both pilots and ATC cleaning traffic but they all got in and got it done. Also emergency crews on coms getting intentions in advanced really clearly and concise isn't something done well very often but God they were fantastic.
Anything can happen at any time, even with proper maintenance and prep. The key to surviving any emergency is to stay calm and move logically. This applies to any situation from a broken ankle on a hike to a car accident to flying. I will only fly southwest because of how relaxed and professional the crews are. Aside from that, their customer service and flight times are generally top rated in my experience
I was in B737 that blew the fuel manifold on #2 engine just as we took off from Las Vegas. Took a long trip over Lake Mead and then landed. You could see a a line of fuel all the way down the runway when we turned onto the taxiway.
The controller did the usual rabbit in the headlights thing of giving an instruction, asking a question and passing traffic information all at the same time during a period of high flight deck workload. I have one basic rule when a pilot reports an issue: "Roger. Report your intentions when able". Let them fly the aircraft, they will come back to you.
I was the controller working next to the controller who was working this aircraft. You have to realize how many things are going on in the room. Just as chaotic as it is in the cockpit, it’s the same in the control room. The controller had five different people asking him questions and making suggestions. Telling him to get information. The controller did a hell of a job coordinating everything.
The Controller was professional and excellent. The very poor, non standard initial radio calls were totally misleading.."CATASTROPHIC !!" The failure was NOT at all catastrophic. Not a MAYDAY !! NOT an imminent threat of loss of life It was a simple contained engine failure. More a PAN call maybe as there is some URGENCY to get an single engine aircraft on the ground. This poor initial non standard communication caused the Controller to give continuous expeditious return vectors and even a nearer alternative airfield. These were all ignored !! The crew did not at all convey the lower level of theat....and just flew on for mile after mile.. with terrain issues and other traffic from which they had to be protected. An excellent professional indeed. It's the crew that seemed to be the rabbits !!! Taking ages to complete the basic engine fire check...the descent and approach check. No need to do a runway performance check with such a simple failure. Any plane can return to a runway it just departed from .... with this level of failure. ... A great Controller indeed.
I am a former jet engine mechanic with the Marines during the 1980s, and then with TRAMCO in Everett, WA. At TRAMCO I worked on many SW Airlines planes. One of the biggest red flags to me while working at TRAMCO was that there was no tool control at all. Mechanics purchased their own tools and no inventory of tools was performed at the end of the shift, so if a mechanic dropped a tool somewhere in the aircraft or engine it would not be detected. In the Marines we would verify that every tool was accounted for to avoid such an incident. A loose tool somewhere in the airframe or engine could be catastrophic.
Nicely done by the crew. My last recurrent training the instructor emphasized placing focus on the initial call in an emergency. Announce "Mayday Mayday Mayday" , a simple explanation of the emergency, Intentions, and then tell them to standby. I liked that as it get ATC up to speed as to what is really going on and keeps them from interrupting the crew while they are in the checklists.
It's something that really surprises me that American flight crews seem to prefer to declare an 'emergency' rather than pan or mayday calls. In this case, the controller asks them to repeat the message, clearly caught off guard. If the crew had called Mayday three times, followed by callsign and the nature of the emergency, everyone would have been on the same page quicker.
@@johngrantham8024 There appears to be a culture similar to the old Right Stuff meme from the 1960s in which US pilots compete to see who can be the most laid back and phlegmatic in an emergency situation. This underlines their dogmatic refusal to use ICAO PAN or MAYDAY phraseology - that would raise heart rates far too much(!) This culture is counterproductive because it means emergency communications become meandering, confused and ambiguous. People will die because of this culture, but I doubt it will change.
Watching these videos and seeing how ATC and pilots deal with emergency situations only makes me feel more comfortable and safe as a passenger. Obviously, these situations are rare, and the professionalism and stoicism show how well trained they are. Also, if you're scared of flying, consider the stats of driving fatalities compared to flying fatalities.
I am reminded of the charter flight departing Mecca, Saudi Arabia, decades ago. One (or more) tire blew and was on fire when retracted. As they were trying to return ATC told them “All runways will be available.” Everything would be available if they could get back. They didn’t.
I would recognize that voice anywhere. Mr. "Supercalm Captain" was the FO on a SWA flight I had to ABQ years ago. I sat on the wing, and I noticed the engine was swinging around more than usual while we taxiied out, and there was a panel on the leading edge of the wing right over the engine pylon that was missing a couple rivets. After we took off and were climbing through the usual Phoenix afternoon bumps, I noticed that the engine was bobbing up and down and the leading edge of that panel was actually flexing open and shut. It was now missing more rivets too. I shut my window and figured if we made it to cruise altitude without losing the engine, we would make it to ABQ. We did. I reported it to the flight crew, and the FO says in this SAME VOICE as the very langorous guy in this audio "Weeeeellllll..........we just might have to check that ouuuuuuttt!" I had to catch a connecting flight but I left feeling like they definitely did not take what I was seeing and reporting very seriously at all. I am pretty sure they just loaded up another load of people and continued on. PS I'm a pilot and was also at the time working as an aircraft mechanic apprentice. Got signed off by FAA to take my mechanic exams this last fall.
The Kill Your not a Pilot. You might fly planes.... A mechanic who does NOT report a defect on a plane he is just about to fly on. I don't like your professional and personal culture. . I hope you never work on a plane I fly in Have you consideref another more suitable job ? Repairing Soda Machines. Please !! More your demonstrated level.
Definitely great job by way of it landed and everyone was okay so that’s a successful landing! But - I kind of don’t see the ‘brilliance’ so many have commented about. Here’s why. (Be kind! 😅) ATC handled things beautifully….. I had a few gripes with the piloting though. ATC having to point out he’d vectored them to the airport but they weren’t actioning his requests, which were as a result of their request to return asap. Was clearly a fairly ‘fresh’ F/O who understandably panicked somewhat, it just would have been helpful that someone told the ATC their intentions so that they didn’t wonder what on earth was going on. I totally get it was ‘aviate, navigate, communicate’ - it just kind of left him hanging, asking for something then ignoring his solution. Again, I assume it will have been a new F/O who in that first moment, forget they needed to do a bunch of checklists before they could bring it back in…. But still. 😅 Also, what on earth was that declaration? 😶 ‘Catastophic engine failure’ got the poor ATC going wtf and having to question them. Mayday would have been a clear and immediate declaration of a problem and that’s all that ATC need to know at this point. Now they know exactly what to start putting into motion, instead of playing detective with the guy who’s also making requests then ignoring them. And not listening properly either. 3:10 ATC request a turn of 280 for terrain. F/O mishears and confirms ‘320’. Unfortunately ATC failed to notice too and inform of incorrect read back. And don’t get me started on ‘clear all aircraft’…… the heck he thinks ATC are going to do? Radio the Citation pilot and ask him to go shake the F/O’s hand at 4000ft?! 🤦🏼♀️ Leave the ATC’ing to the ATC controller! Can tell the ATC was being cautious by double checking they were still aiming for the runway requested and not changed their mind without telling him. He had to spoon-feed them to get them to confirm some of the basic, essential things he needed to know. I bet the Captain needed a beer after that. And the F/O a new pair of trousers. 🙈
@@constantinetzavaras7668 gives me more confidence hearing you reply and knowing such quality people are doing their best to get us to our destinations. TYVM
Stacy. .....I totally agree with you.. Everyone can learn how to do it better next time..and make the situation more standard ... They all landed safely that's the main job !!!
So amazing to see how well this was handled. As scary as I’m sure this was, it makes someone like me, who really dislikes flying, feel better about it. Catastrophic engine failure seems like nothing my bad endings. Really good to see this.
All twin engine planes can fly a surprisingly long distance on just one engine. One engine failure is scary, but not that bad overall. 2 engine failures... you're going to be having a bad day
Wow! How incredibly professional and cool that captain and FO are! Yes, I know they train, and yes, I know there are procedures, but if those guys were not ahead of the airplane for even a second, all Hell could have broke loose. And when the captain jumped on the radio, he talked as though he was ordering from a menu.
Sometimes you hear controllers that talk a lot, pilots are busy during emergencies. This controller was good, just spoke what was needed. The pilot was like a lot, laid back and cool, the first officer was excited.
Yeah, watching a fire trucks go to a plane in case it blows up & people are burned alive is pretty cool. I'll bet you rubberneck by MVAs too. I treated a bunch of patients whose limbs were blown off when two pieces of shit bombed my city's annual marathon -- you know what I didn't think? "This is pretty cool".
@@You.Tube.Sucks. Sounds like you need some time off work to chillax a bit my guy, the comment wasn't that serious, and nobody was hurt. Everybody needs a break, we all burn out, and burnout sucks dirty old balls, it can seriously wreck you if you don't get on it immediately.
FO sounded a little rattled but not overwhelmingly so. Couple read backs were incorrect. Good experience, the Capt sounded like he let him handle ATC throughout most of it as a training experience
Bingo! I let him fly it and told him it would be a great experience for him and I ran the checklist. I had to do the landing by company policy. Textbook and outstanding training. We knew exactly what to do and with a positive outcome. Great work by everyone involved.
@@constantinetzavaras7668 It was not text book ... The RT was totally non standard. Eg Captain's side motor. You mean ...Number one engine. Never heard a Captain tell ATC who was landing the aircraft. !! Most just call FINALS. Please read the TEXT BOOK. FAA AIM 4-2-1c Facts not my opinion. You obviously don't listen to anybody......
Yeah, that's globalists crap. Hopefully never gonna happen, as lots of their other "inventions" (15 minutes cities/ghettos, food made of insects, CBDC to name a few).
0:37 - PERFECT example of why a MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY call should be used - NO confusion and 'say again' from ATC. Mayday implies SERIOUS immediate emergency. NO ambiguity. WHY does the rest of the aviation world understand this?
Right. There's a way of communicating an emergency and it's written in blood. First thing is to demand attention and priority by saying MAYDAY three times. Not once, or never, or dropping in "emergency aircraft" or setting the transponder to 7700 in the hope ATC notices. Expect runway 8? LOL! The MAYDAY aircraft tells you what its doing and what help it needs. And you stick MAYDAY on the start of the calls, not emergency aircraft on the end. ATC keeps approving, but in an emergency they aren't being asked, they are being told. But you won't get any love for telling them they aren't doing it right, so long as things turn out OK in the end.
As the ATC controller keeps talking to the First Officer, I keep thinking, "take a breath, calm down, and *let the man run through his emergency landing checklists*". I appreciate the ATC controller's clear voice, brief messages, and his presence of mind to ask for fuel and souls on board (in case of a crash, they need to let first responders know how much fuel will burn and how many bodies they need to account for). A solid, professional job by all parties. Just another day in the commercial aviation industry.
Well... the pilot(FO I'm assuming) said "catastrophic engine failure clear all aircraft". Then the airplane proceeded to fly another 20 miles west. So I'm assuming that is why the ATC didn't take a breath, he assumed they were turning in immediately based on what the pilot said.
Also you have to understand that this audio is compressed. There were many other aircraft the controller was working at the same time dealing with the emergency.
That Citation was making me crazy. You think ATC would tell that Citation to get the hell out of the airspace temporarily, such as, "Citation N8543B, we have an emergency aircraft with engine failure. They are currently above you at your 1 o'clock. Please temporarily vacate Class Bravo airspace and turn right heading 360 without delay."
You can't just start turning aircraft into other aircraft and terrain because someone else is an emergency. You have no idea what he had around those two.
@@morganghetti You are correct that i had no idea but you sure can turn around everyone. That Citation was clearly a hazard for a plane in emergency because it was "sticking around". The ATC should have given instructions to the Citation, any instructions, to get the heck away from that plane. Seemed no matter what was going on with the emergency aircraft, here comes that Citation put-puting around. I am surprised the Citation did not land on the taxiway next to the runway at the same time the emergency aircraft was landing. Seemed that Citation was literally attached at the hip to that emergency aircraft. I know if is was me in that Citation, i would have requested vectors out of Class Bravo to hold until everything was figured out. It was almost like the emergency aircraft was getting an escort by the Citation. Great ATC here but that Citation needed to be anywhere but there at that particulatr time. An emergency aircraft with an engine failure should not need to keep looking around for other aitcraft jurking off in the airspace.
Agree. Have no idea what SOP is, but getting that Citation out of the range of the SW's airspace seemed prudent but wasn't done. Felt like SW had the same opinion.
It's just part of the profession..... In my 32 years of flying I've heard those words directed to me in my headsets "Say souls onboard and fuel remaining in minutes" for a total of 5 times. Fortunately for me and pax all were uneventful. 😎👨🏽✈️✈🌍🏆
@@fomfom9779 I too understand what you're saying...... When those words come directly out of the mouth of an ATC and are meant for you they are indeed instantly presumed Nonchalantly Cold, Uncomfortably Methodical, and Seriously lacking Empathy or Emotions as to the severity of the possible outcome of the flesh, bones, and life source of those occupants aboard. However, believe me when I say..... "It reminds you and makes you instantly remember that We play for keeps Up Here and you may not get a second chance....so do Everything as if your life Depends upon your next action and subsequent ones because They Do". 🎯👨🏽✈️✈🌍
Very professional, can someone answer this question please …mayday mayday in an event like this is always used to gain attention in the Uk does it not apply in USA?
Due to the unskippable ads at 4:00, I had to stop the video. No way could I get back into the gripping story after that Ritz commercial. I assume they just couldn’t make it. RIP.
I know and agree with all the comments on here but for all the guys in the cockpit were fully tasked they really didn't need to be further tasked by ATC to look out for the Citation? Surely ATC could have just redirected it without adding to the guys workload?
Hmm thats not Ernie on the radio aka flyingwithbigern. He posted a video a few a week or two ago saying he was going Burbank. I think he did two trips to burbank and then flew back to PHX as a passenger.
"We'll take the escort, why not." Sounded like the captain wanted to look special. [/sarcasm] I know pilots train for situations like these, but I've never heard one sound so cool and collective on the radio during a mayday situation. Was like just another day in the park for him.
Great job by the crew. Simple question why is it that US pilots shy away from the international communication of emergency or distress. Saying Mayday X 3 or Pan-Pan X3 would taken care of a lot messy back and forth. Once said, they know your situation and will keep you clear of traffic and terrain and you’ll have priority.
Makes you wonder about SW training standards....sounds like the first engine failure they ever had... Don't they get them in the SW simulator every six months. ..
It's all a coincidence. Other airlines have been having problems as well but the media just seems to be focusing on SWA since the Christmas meltdown. An AA flight had an engine failure about two months ago but it was sparsely covered.
Really, the plane flys great on one engine. Better to run all the checklists and ensure good landing data than to rush in. I was concerned when the ATC controller gave them a VERY EARLY northerly turn towards the runway! Fortunately, the pilots ignored that and focused on making things safe before turning in. Now…an active FIRE would be a different animal, and would likely warrant an expedited return. In this case, though…with a good shutdown of the bad engine…it’s better to take your time and not rush.
@@cyberentomology Only Eng fail Check after memory items. No other failures. Descent and Approach check That's it. Landing check on final. What else..?? Maybe review evacuation drill. Train for it all the time . Any jet with this sort of failure will safely land back on the runway it just departed from..
@@737smartin Yes ...early turns because they said "catastrophic " They misled the excellent Controller because of their poor non standard radio calls ..
@@daftvader4218 I don't know what else they had, but I know our airline would have us handle the boldface; notify and get visual report on engine from flight attendants; finish engine failure checklist; request, brief, program and set Flaps 15 landing data (hot brakes?); review the single engine approach, landing, and go arnd procedures; set up for and brief approach; and tell the flight attendants and passengers what to expect. They may have had hydraulic issues, as it was a destructive failure, including a thrown blade or three. I might call that a catastrophic failure, too. I'm not about to label it a miscommunication! 😲
I love how they flew over the flat city of Phoenix the entire emergency, and the controller tried a half dozen times to get them back and away from that little thing called the MOUNTAINS.
Question for someone familiar with aviation... The captain mentioned the first officer was flying until he took over towards the final part. Is that typical in these types of events?
Yes it can be, the captain during an emergency is running checklists, trouble shooting, making decisions and coordinating all of the flight crew for an emergency. The FO and him are executing and confirming with one another but having the FO fly this pattern and navigate back to the airport in this case makes sense. The plane lost engines but still flys well, he set them up for the approach and the captain took over for the final phase of flight.
Captain has to fly the approach, if it is single engine. Captain will often let the FO fly up until the approach, allowing the Captain to make sure all the emergency procedures are taken care of, and the checklist is completed.
Commercial passenger planes always have two or more engines. They must be able to fly on one engine well enough to get down safely after an engine failure.
Just being curious.. I know that in case of emergency a checklists need to be run, but while they run them, is it the most safe way to actually fly away from the airport? Would not be some circling nearby safer option? Again, only curious about what the procedure is. In the end it was an amazing job safely done.
Question - Why such a long time running checklists away from the airport? Would they not want to turn towards airport as soon as possible since on only 1 engine? Thanks :)
The engine has to be shut down, checklists run, flight attendants to communicate the plan to, run the landing weight performance, let dispatch know, inform the passengers, and have a ground game plan in case the motor decides to light on fire when we land. Yes, I was the Captain. Great question by the way. Thank you!!!
@@constantinetzavaras7668 Thanks for the answer. Can you estimate the time it took from the moment of the engine failure to the time you were on the ground? Just curious :)
One thing to think about is that 25 miles at 160 KTS (Probably Was Going Faster) is just over 8 minutes. That 25 miles goes by fast, especially when you’re dealing with the work load that they are.
Hi MaUriR6 Like the Controllers you are confused by the non standard RT . That is why they keep offering radar vectors which were then refused.They even offered an alternate field. All adds to the RT load. According to the FAA / ICAO an emergency should be defined to indicate threat. This emergency was a simple contained failure with no other aircraft systems effected. The level of emergency should be defined as a.... Mayday( immediate life threat ) or a Pan (urgent) Initial call.... PAN PAN X 3. SW 9010 #1 ENG FAILURE. 126 persons .....or standby number. FUEL 25 thousand lbs Then.... SW 9010 Request radar vectors to a 10 mile final runway O8 with emergency services on standby. In my 43 years of worldwide flying I have never heard so much superficial non standard chat. Eg.. I have never heard a Captain telling ATC that " he" is flying the "baby" even.... Most pilots just call "FINALS" Not my opinion... The facts are in FAA AIM 4-2-1 c. . Goggle it..... FAA AIM And yes..... I have had 8 engine failure /shut downs especially in the early days. The last one out of Bangkok was similar to this but I had to dump 100 tons of fuel . I didn't even declare a Pan or a Mayday as I still had three left on the good old 747-400. Thank you Boeing. ..
@@constantinetzavaras7668 Hi...I think you will find that any runway you depart from will allow a safe return landing with one engine failure and no other failure. .
I was on this flight with my 6 month old daughter and it was terrifying. Loud boom with the abrupt sound of the turbine tapering off. Some people thought they saw sparks. I didn’t personally. Glad to see the professional side of this was handled so well. No matter how rare it is I’m gonna be scared of flights from now on 😂.
southwest flight out of PHX last year ruined me for flying as well. some type of engine failure. can barely fly now
Glad you are both ok, really hard to have experiences like that. If you struggle with symptoms, trauma therapy can help.
I was your Captain. Thanks for your patience and remaining calm during a very stressful situation for you. Please let me know if I can ever be of assistance. Warmest regards.
Did the pilots reachout to
Let you know what was going on? How were the flight attendants?
@@Charlie-gs8or you had an engine failure too?
I fly SWA all the time and have for decades, and this is exactly the kind of talent and professionalism I’ve come to expect. Thanx for all you do, and ATC and fire crews too.
I was flying in that day for SkyWest, they slowed us down to 190 kts when we were 100 miles from the airport. Solid work southwest pilots!
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
(crashing sounds) I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
And don't call me Shirley!!😎
...and don't call me Shirley.🤣
Roger Rodger... Over Under... under done
The automatic pilot….it’s deflating!
Regardless of how some feel about SWA, their pilots & FAs are the best in the business. I may be a little bias but I stand by my statement. ❤️💛💙
These videos show just how safe air travel is with the measures in place when things go wrong.
It was safer with 4 engines
@@rona4960 That’s debatable, sure 4 engines is quite a lot of insurance but with modern jet engines two is plenty for a passenger jet. We still use 747-400 and -800’s here at DHL and they’re aging poorly compared to these newer 777’s. Did you know some of our 747’s go out at close to a million pounds? Again for a passenger jet there’s really no need for four engines in this day and age, the redundancies and procedures and safety measures in place are miles better than they used to be.
I still don’t want to be in that plane.
actually it shows how air travel is going to shit, from pilots that don’t listen to shitty ATC like that dude in Austin or the one in Hawaii, to shitty maintenance, to inherently dangerous airport layouts and systems
it also shows the reluctance of US pilots to call MAYDAY or PANPAN. At most they say we are thinking of declaring an emergency.
Always accept an offer from ARFF to escort your aircraft to the gate.
You gotta look cool with all the flashing lights vehicles escorting you in!
Now, imagine this situation with 1 pilot onboard as Congress is considering allowing. These guys are busy.
There’s way too many pilot incapacitations to allow a single pilot, all of those would end up in a total loss!
I don’t ever see that happening. They can try they won’t win! 2 pilots is a MUST on commercial aircraft’s.
@@Leigh3420 Don't put anything past this magatard congress.
How many flights have had a pilot who became incapacitated? How many people would have died if he'd been alone?
@@MarcF.Nielssen I have 25 hours in DCS World, put me in coach. I'm ready to fly. 🛩
Can't say enough about the awesome professionalism demonstrated by all parties involved in this episode, the pilots, the ATC and the Fire command. 😀
The plane was blowing up, nothing about it is professional
That captain is a true gentleman.
@SpadesPlusYT58 And I’ll bet nobody ever calls him Shirley.
I got my PPL there and, depending on the time of day, Phoenix can be very busy. Plus, there is a lot of GA traffic, as well as traffic from the many flight schools in the area.
Everyone did an amazing job, but I especially liked the clear dictation and cadence of the tower ATC. That was crystal clear.
Also I'm super happy about the ground emergency incident commander repeating back to the tower what was told to him to confirm. I don't think enough ground ops do that and sometimes it makes things confusing because they aren't understanding the radio communication or the overall situation correctly.
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PHX controllers are some of the best in the business.
I wouldnt be suprised if ground emergency crew were previous highly experienced commercial pilots by the clarity of transmissions and the quality of the comms. He knew what the pilots needed above and beyond what I've normally seen before they requested. Very on top of the process and proactive in his directives/information provided. Amazing
This is pretty standard fire ground communications amongst firefighters, repeating orders is a way to ensure the accuracy of information is received appropriately. Great work by everyone involved in this incident.
If I was in an emergency situation needing help, that ATC is the voice I would want to hear, hell of a job.
This video along with others show how well the aviators are trained and how well these guys and gals are under pressure. It’s not a video game and you get multiple tries. Great job!!!
I have to say pilots are a different breed of person unbelievable calm and control wow
I've noticed on a couple of these emergency landing transcripts that even though nothing dangerous or catastrophically broken was found on the aircraft after inspection by Fire Command, that the pilots always took the offer for an escort to the gate. That is some good captain work there. It would be foolish not to take the offer of an escort during taxi even if nothing is smoking or on fire, because that ONE TIME you refuse the offer, is the time the plane will explode in a ball of flame moments after the fire trucks pull away. That is how shit goes.
Incredibly professional by the pilots, air traffic control and emergency crews. Excellent outcome.
I'm always amazed at how calm everyone sounds during these situations. I understand that training takes over but I would still expect some level of stress in the voices. "...we're gonna roll this baby out as far as we can...How about we shoot for like maybe B10?" So casual in his voice. You could imagine that same tone when making plans for lunch with a friend. "Oh, let's shoot for noon at O'Malley's OK?"
@@markandrews7701 What is calm about calling a contained engine failure "catastrophic ".
The Controller then wants to give the plane immediate return vectors. ....which are all denied with all that chat...
A click bait failure.??
The pilot is so calm I'd be going nuts
@@daftvader4218 It's meant to imply they won't be attempting a re-start. In our checklists it's referred to as " severe damage" but it means the same thing. The long vector is because there a number of checklists that need to be run in order to secure the engine and prep the airplane for a return at much higher approach speeds.
@@daftvader4218 A catastrophic failure is a sudden and total failure from which recovery is impossible. The good news is they have another one, so they have checklists they are required to run before landing for safety reasons. There's no clickbait here.
6:17 - That captain sounds like he has waited all his flight career for this one moment to say "emergency aircraft".
ATC: “no rush, but getting a little close to the Supes, might want to start thinking about making that turn here soon”
lol all jokes aside, one heck of a job by all involved. As smooth as it could have been. Love the upbeat attitude of the pilot.
Superstitions woulda been in the other direction but funny nonetheless
It's one thing to experience an engine failure in the sim. Hats off to the crew for their professionalism. Job well done.
EVERYONE did one heck of a job! This makes me almost tear up with pride listening to how professional everyone was. Gosh..what an incredible job!
Absolute peak performance by all involved. This recording is a goddamned piece of art
@@caseydykes117 Amen!
Almost?! 😁
You must be joking. ...
Just an engine failure turned into a drama with just too much chat from the ground and air...
@@daftvader4218 how familiar are u with SOP's?!?!?!
Southwest pilots are always so calm, chill about things.
SW: Southwest 123 Tower?
Tower: Southwest 123 go ahead.
SW: Yeah our wing fell off may need to return.
😂🤣
His first two transmissions were utter garbage.
Joey ,do you like movies about gladiators?
@Ed Oeuna well that is to be expected. He calmed himself down.
@@triciac1019 - not to be expected from a professional airline pilot. They practice this stuff in the sim enough to be able to initiate an emergency call without waffling and failing to get anything of relevance across.
Great communication all around - very classy! This is how it should be done - with competence, courtesy and gratitude. Kudos to Southwest, ATC, and the emergency services for jobs well done!
That first call from SW was appalling. And the second. What a waste of breath.
@@EdOeuna Ed....I totally agree with you...
Pathetic. .
What is a "catastrophic "engine failure.
????
Classy? You probably meant to say professional.
@@jacquesleroux5069 - utterly unprofessional and highly suspect. You couldn’t get away with that “quality” anywhere else.
Now that was one cool captain! Love it! Calm and collected in an emergency. It allows you to think clearly if you keep it together! Bravo 🎉
Consider: the engine design contained the failure as designed, the flight crew flew the plane, navigated and communicated, and the ATC and emergency crews did their duty. Kudos to all.
PHENOMENAL work by all involved here. I cannot imagine the massive workload on both pilots and ATC cleaning traffic but they all got in and got it done.
Also emergency crews on coms getting intentions in advanced really clearly and concise isn't something done well very often but God they were fantastic.
Exactly the sort of people you want running the show all round. Superb professionalism to ensure the best outcome.
Anything can happen at any time, even with proper maintenance and prep. The key to surviving any emergency is to stay calm and move logically. This applies to any situation from a broken ankle on a hike to a car accident to flying. I will only fly southwest because of how relaxed and professional the crews are. Aside from that, their customer service and flight times are generally top rated in my experience
Amazing coordination by everyone, executed with polite precision.
Thanks to ATC, fantastic guys ! And the pilots of course😊
Very calm and professional handling from all parties involved, nice job!
I was in B737 that blew the fuel manifold on #2 engine just as we took off from Las Vegas. Took a long trip over Lake Mead and then landed. You could see a a line of fuel all the way down the runway when we turned onto the taxiway.
FO was understandably shaken, but the INSTANT that captain got on freq this became a slight annoyance and everyone calmed down. Amazing.
The controller did the usual rabbit in the headlights thing of giving an instruction, asking a question and passing traffic information all at the same time during a period of high flight deck workload. I have one basic rule when a pilot reports an issue: "Roger. Report your intentions when able". Let them fly the aircraft, they will come back to you.
Excellent point for training of ATC controllers.
Absolutely right
I was the controller working next to the controller who was working this aircraft. You have to realize how many things are going on in the room. Just as chaotic as it is in the cockpit, it’s the same in the control room. The controller had five different people asking him questions and making suggestions. Telling him to get information. The controller did a hell of a job coordinating everything.
@@JLynchJr86 I do realise as I am a controller myself. I was just observing the startle effect which can and does happen to us all.
The Controller was professional and excellent.
The very poor, non standard initial radio calls were totally misleading.."CATASTROPHIC !!"
The failure was NOT at all catastrophic.
Not a MAYDAY !!
NOT an imminent threat of loss of life
It was a simple contained engine failure.
More a PAN call maybe as there is some URGENCY to get an single engine aircraft on the ground.
This poor initial non standard communication caused the Controller to give continuous expeditious return vectors and even a nearer alternative airfield.
These were all ignored !!
The crew did not at all convey the lower level of theat....and just flew on for mile after mile..
with terrain issues and other traffic from which they had to be protected.
An excellent professional indeed.
It's the crew that seemed to be the rabbits !!!
Taking ages to complete the basic engine fire check...the descent and approach check.
No need to do a runway performance check with such a simple failure.
Any plane can return to a runway it just departed from ....
with this level of failure. ...
A great Controller indeed.
These guys are very professional. Thanks
"...this baby..." This captain loves his plane, even when an engine has failed. :) Good job everybody!
👍
I am a former jet engine mechanic with the Marines during the 1980s, and then with TRAMCO in Everett, WA. At TRAMCO I worked on many SW Airlines planes. One of the biggest red flags to me while working at TRAMCO was that there was no tool control at all. Mechanics purchased their own tools and no inventory of tools was performed at the end of the shift, so if a mechanic dropped a tool somewhere in the aircraft or engine it would not be detected. In the Marines we would verify that every tool was accounted for to avoid such an incident. A loose tool somewhere in the airframe or engine could be catastrophic.
Whatever that pilot eats for breakfast…I’m eating it!!! Dude was hella calm!!
Nicely done by the crew. My last recurrent training the instructor emphasized placing focus on the initial call in an emergency. Announce "Mayday Mayday Mayday" , a simple explanation of the emergency, Intentions, and then tell them to standby. I liked that as it get ATC up to speed as to what is really going on and keeps them from interrupting the crew while they are in the checklists.
The crew did not do that !!
It's something that really surprises me that American flight crews seem to prefer to declare an 'emergency' rather than pan or mayday calls. In this case, the controller asks them to repeat the message, clearly caught off guard. If the crew had called Mayday three times, followed by callsign and the nature of the emergency, everyone would have been on the same page quicker.
@@johngrantham8024 There appears to be a culture similar to the old Right Stuff meme from the 1960s in which US pilots compete to see who can be the most laid back and phlegmatic in an emergency situation. This underlines their dogmatic refusal to use ICAO PAN or MAYDAY phraseology - that would raise heart rates far too much(!) This culture is counterproductive because it means emergency communications become meandering, confused and ambiguous. People will die because of this culture, but I doubt it will change.
Watching these videos and seeing how ATC and pilots deal with emergency situations only makes me feel more comfortable and safe as a passenger. Obviously, these situations are rare, and the professionalism and stoicism show how well trained they are. Also, if you're scared of flying, consider the stats of driving fatalities compared to flying fatalities.
I am reminded of the charter flight departing Mecca, Saudi Arabia, decades ago. One (or more) tire blew and was on fire when retracted. As they were trying to return ATC told them “All runways will be available.” Everything would be available if they could get back. They didn’t.
Approach controller seemed to have his act together, nice job.
Total pros!!! Thanks for doing such a great job getting us around safely!
👍
I love the calm demeanor of the captain….. I’d fly on his aircraft anytime.
Once it has a new engine, that is
I was the Captain. Hope to see you sometime!
Not for me or my worldwide world class seven star safe airline.
As rated by Skytrax
Everyone seemed to be on their A-game, and I especially appreciated ATC who seemed to go above and beyond.
Now, that is how trained expert professionals respond to issues! BRAVO!
I would recognize that voice anywhere. Mr. "Supercalm Captain" was the FO on a SWA flight I had to ABQ years ago. I sat on the wing, and I noticed the engine was swinging around more than usual while we taxiied out, and there was a panel on the leading edge of the wing right over the engine pylon that was missing a couple rivets. After we took off and were climbing through the usual Phoenix afternoon bumps, I noticed that the engine was bobbing up and down and the leading edge of that panel was actually flexing open and shut. It was now missing more rivets too. I shut my window and figured if we made it to cruise altitude without losing the engine, we would make it to ABQ. We did. I reported it to the flight crew, and the FO says in this SAME VOICE as the very langorous guy in this audio "Weeeeellllll..........we just might have to check that ouuuuuuttt!" I had to catch a connecting flight but I left feeling like they definitely did not take what I was seeing and reporting very seriously at all. I am pretty sure they just loaded up another load of people and continued on. PS I'm a pilot and was also at the time working as an aircraft mechanic apprentice. Got signed off by FAA to take my mechanic exams this last fall.
The Kill
Your not a Pilot.
You might fly planes....
A mechanic who does NOT report a defect on a plane he is just about to fly on.
I don't like your professional and personal culture. .
I hope you never work on a plane I fly in
Have you consideref another more suitable job ?
Repairing Soda Machines.
Please !!
More your demonstrated level.
Definitely great job by way of it landed and everyone was okay so that’s a successful landing! But - I kind of don’t see the ‘brilliance’ so many have commented about. Here’s why. (Be kind! 😅)
ATC handled things beautifully….. I had a few gripes with the piloting though. ATC having to point out he’d vectored them to the airport but they weren’t actioning his requests, which were as a result of their request to return asap. Was clearly a fairly ‘fresh’ F/O who understandably panicked somewhat, it just would have been helpful that someone told the ATC their intentions so that they didn’t wonder what on earth was going on. I totally get it was ‘aviate, navigate, communicate’ - it just kind of left him hanging, asking for something then ignoring his solution. Again, I assume it will have been a new F/O who in that first moment, forget they needed to do a bunch of checklists before they could bring it back in…. But still. 😅
Also, what on earth was that declaration? 😶 ‘Catastophic engine failure’ got the poor ATC going wtf and having to question them. Mayday would have been a clear and immediate declaration of a problem and that’s all that ATC need to know at this point. Now they know exactly what to start putting into motion, instead of playing detective with the guy who’s also making requests then ignoring them. And not listening properly either. 3:10 ATC request a turn of 280 for terrain. F/O mishears and confirms ‘320’. Unfortunately ATC failed to notice too and inform of incorrect read back. And don’t get me started on ‘clear all aircraft’…… the heck he thinks ATC are going to do? Radio the Citation pilot and ask him to go shake the F/O’s hand at 4000ft?! 🤦🏼♀️ Leave the ATC’ing to the ATC controller!
Can tell the ATC was being cautious by double checking they were still aiming for the runway requested and not changed their mind without telling him. He had to spoon-feed them to get them to confirm some of the basic, essential things he needed to know.
I bet the Captain needed a beer after that. And the F/O a new pair of trousers. 🙈
Actually, I had a BOURBON that evening.
@@constantinetzavaras7668 gives me more confidence hearing you reply and knowing such quality people are doing their best to get us to our destinations. TYVM
Stacy. .....I totally agree with you..
Everyone can learn how to do it better next time..and make the situation more standard ...
They all landed safely that's the main job !!!
@@constantinetzavaras7668 great job captain!! 😎
Thank you for the video, it is really well done.
Thank you for watching 🙂👍😎
Th at captain was SO CHILL.. So yeah we're gonna roll this baby out to, oh i dunno... how about B10?
LOL
Planned taxiway for clearing RWY.
So amazing to see how well this was handled. As scary as I’m sure this was, it makes someone like me, who really dislikes flying, feel better about it. Catastrophic engine failure seems like nothing my bad endings. Really good to see this.
All twin engine planes can fly a surprisingly long distance on just one engine. One engine failure is scary, but not that bad overall. 2 engine failures... you're going to be having a bad day
Wow! How incredibly professional and cool that captain and FO are! Yes, I know they train, and yes, I know there are procedures, but if those guys were not ahead of the airplane for even a second, all Hell could have broke loose. And when the captain jumped on the radio, he talked as though he was ordering from a menu.
Sometimes you hear controllers that talk a lot, pilots are busy during emergencies. This controller was good, just spoke what was needed. The pilot was like a lot, laid back and cool, the first officer was excited.
Great teamwork to all concerned, textbook precision. Great content as always You can see ATC.
I got goosebumps listening to how well everyone performed.
Especially the engine, for failing so cleanly and not throwing parts into the fuselage or catching fire. Thanks, engine!
@@relentlesscactus Yes!!
What IS catastrophic about that.
Thank God for those pilots and the air traffic controller. They remained calm, professional and worked together. They saved all those lives. ❤🙏
they got it repaired and sent back out 3 days later! awesome.
You do a great job with these vids!
Second time in a short period excellent job by the Phoenix ATC
the change in the tension was very noticeable when the captain took over the radio
The words at 8:37 were "there's no smoke or anything coming from Engine One right now."
I love how the Captain did not forget rule #1: Always sound cool on the radio. 🤣
captain was almost having fun at the end :)
😁
“Tower, scratch B10. We’re taking B9 and going to swing by Starbucks for a coffee before going to the gate. Can we get you anything?”
An abundance of caution by the fire crew and pilot. Makes me feel safe, because these guys knew the #1 engine could catch fire and kill people.
Pieces of the engine fell on my workplace. We were picking up turbine bits from the parking lot.
😮
I was on a plane taxiing in when this emergency aircraft landed and got to see all the emergency vehicles drive out to it. Was pretty cool.
Yeah, watching a fire trucks go to a plane in case it blows up & people are burned alive is pretty cool. I'll bet you rubberneck by MVAs too. I treated a bunch of patients whose limbs were blown off when two pieces of shit bombed my city's annual marathon -- you know what I didn't think? "This is pretty cool".
@@You.Tube.Sucks. Everything okay at home, bud?
@@You.Tube.Sucks. Sounds like you need some time off work to chillax a bit my guy, the comment wasn't that serious, and nobody was hurt. Everybody needs a break, we all burn out, and burnout sucks dirty old balls, it can seriously wreck you if you don't get on it immediately.
Ava also thinks he’s Ethel merman
@@You.Tube.Sucks. mate you know that is not what he/she meant.
FO sounded a little rattled but not overwhelmingly so. Couple read backs were incorrect. Good experience, the Capt sounded like he let him handle ATC throughout most of it as a training experience
Bingo! I let him fly it and told him it would be a great experience for him and I ran the checklist. I had to do the landing by company policy. Textbook and outstanding training. We knew exactly what to do and with a positive outcome. Great work by everyone involved.
@@constantinetzavaras7668 It was not text book ...
The RT was totally non standard.
Eg
Captain's side motor.
You mean ...Number one engine.
Never heard a Captain tell ATC who was landing the aircraft. !!
Most just call FINALS.
Please read the TEXT BOOK.
FAA AIM 4-2-1c
Facts not my opinion.
You obviously don't listen to anybody......
Excellent professionalism on the part of both the flight crew and ATC! Glad to know I’m in these guys hands.
Professional as if they do this every day. Well done.
And there is a push for 1 pilot in the cockpit? Wow
Yeah, that's globalists crap. Hopefully never gonna happen, as lots of their other "inventions" (15 minutes cities/ghettos, food made of insects, CBDC to name a few).
Unbelievable to me need two at all times imo
Very interesting to listen to. Glad it went well!
Awsome ATC. Awsome pilots.
That ATC WAS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS! Provided short and concise instructions, was at the pilots beck and call asking what he could do to assist!
0:37 - PERFECT example of why a MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY call should be used - NO confusion and 'say again' from ATC.
Mayday implies SERIOUS immediate emergency. NO ambiguity.
WHY does the rest of the aviation world understand this?
Because the US doesn’t train it like the rest of the world. It’s really that simple.
Correct, I cringe when I hear this absolute nonsense on the RT. However safely down which is the main thing I guess.
Right. There's a way of communicating an emergency and it's written in blood. First thing is to demand attention and priority by saying MAYDAY three times. Not once, or never, or dropping in "emergency aircraft" or setting the transponder to 7700 in the hope ATC notices. Expect runway 8? LOL! The MAYDAY aircraft tells you what its doing and what help it needs. And you stick MAYDAY on the start of the calls, not emergency aircraft on the end. ATC keeps approving, but in an emergency they aren't being asked, they are being told. But you won't get any love for telling them they aren't doing it right, so long as things turn out OK in the end.
You think the controller didn't understand this was an emergency?
@@N1120A not just the controller need to understand it, but everybody who is on the frequency.
As the ATC controller keeps talking to the First Officer, I keep thinking, "take a breath, calm down, and *let the man run through his emergency landing checklists*".
I appreciate the ATC controller's clear voice, brief messages, and his presence of mind to ask for fuel and souls on board (in case of a crash, they need to let first responders know how much fuel will burn and how many bodies they need to account for).
A solid, professional job by all parties. Just another day in the commercial aviation industry.
Well... the pilot(FO I'm assuming) said "catastrophic engine failure clear all aircraft". Then the airplane proceeded to fly another 20 miles west. So I'm assuming that is why the ATC didn't take a breath, he assumed they were turning in immediately based on what the pilot said.
Also you have to understand that this audio is compressed. There were many other aircraft the controller was working at the same time dealing with the emergency.
Great job on all.They had one good engine thankfully.
That Citation was making me crazy. You think ATC would tell that Citation to get the hell out of the airspace temporarily, such as, "Citation N8543B, we have an emergency aircraft with engine failure. They are currently above you at your 1 o'clock. Please temporarily vacate Class Bravo airspace and turn right heading 360 without delay."
You can't just start turning aircraft into other aircraft and terrain because someone else is an emergency. You have no idea what he had around those two.
@@morganghetti You are correct that i had no idea but you sure can turn around everyone. That Citation was clearly a hazard for a plane in emergency because it was "sticking around". The ATC should have given instructions to the Citation, any instructions, to get the heck away from that plane. Seemed no matter what was going on with the emergency aircraft, here comes that Citation put-puting around. I am surprised the Citation did not land on the taxiway next to the runway at the same time the emergency aircraft was landing. Seemed that Citation was literally attached at the hip to that emergency aircraft. I know if is was me in that Citation, i would have requested vectors out of Class Bravo to hold until everything was figured out. It was almost like the emergency aircraft was getting an escort by the Citation. Great ATC here but that Citation needed to be anywhere but there at that particulatr time. An emergency aircraft with an engine failure should not need to keep looking around for other aitcraft jurking off in the airspace.
Agree. Have no idea what SOP is, but getting that Citation out of the range of the SW's airspace seemed prudent but wasn't done.
Felt like SW had the same opinion.
Good work by everyone!
So much for the MADAY or PAN call..
The reality of these situations always gets to me, when they ask about the number of souls onboard.
It's just part of the profession..... In my 32 years of flying I've heard those words directed to me in my headsets "Say souls onboard and fuel remaining in minutes" for a total of 5 times.
Fortunately for me and pax all were uneventful. 😎👨🏽✈️✈🌍🏆
@@judgemarshall6127 I understand that. But it brings into focus they aren't just talking about a flying tube made of aluminum and composites.
@@fomfom9779 I too understand what you're saying......
When those words come directly out of the mouth of an ATC and are meant for you they are indeed instantly presumed Nonchalantly Cold, Uncomfortably Methodical, and Seriously lacking Empathy or Emotions as to the severity of the possible outcome of the flesh, bones, and life source of those occupants aboard.
However, believe me when I say..... "It reminds you and makes you instantly remember that We play for keeps Up Here and you may not get a second chance....so do Everything as if your life Depends upon your next action and subsequent ones because They Do". 🎯👨🏽✈️✈🌍
Very professional, can someone answer this question please …mayday mayday in an event like this is always used to gain attention in the Uk does it not apply in USA?
I heard the fire crew say everything looked as it should on the L/H engine so at least it did not blow off the front of the engine cowling...
Omg this pilot is soooo fucking calm!!!! 😮 I’m in awe
Everybody doing an exceptional job. Made me cry.
Another engine blown on SWA good thing it didn’t kill someone this time
Due to the unskippable ads at 4:00, I had to stop the video. No way could I get back into the gripping story after that Ritz commercial. I assume they just couldn’t make it. RIP.
I know and agree with all the comments on here but for all the guys in the cockpit were fully tasked they really didn't need to be further tasked by ATC to look out for the Citation? Surely ATC could have just redirected it without adding to the guys workload?
Hmm thats not Ernie on the radio aka flyingwithbigern. He posted a video a few a week or two ago saying he was going Burbank. I think he did two trips to burbank and then flew back to PHX as a passenger.
My first thought when I saw the departure airport!
It was not “big ern”
Kind of surprised once they extended so far to the west the controller didn’t suggest landing at GYR.
"We'll take the escort, why not."
Sounded like the captain wanted to look special. [/sarcasm]
I know pilots train for situations like these, but I've never heard one sound so cool and collective on the radio during a mayday situation. Was like just another day in the park for him.
Lots of Monday morning quarterbacks in here. I'm sure you have all had catastrophic engine failures in a 737 in busy class B airspace.
Great job by the crew. Simple question why is it that US pilots shy away from the international communication of emergency or distress. Saying Mayday X 3 or Pan-Pan X3 would taken care of a lot messy back and forth. Once said, they know your situation and will keep you clear of traffic and terrain and you’ll have priority.
James...
Non standard jargon that is not the required professional standard...
FAA AIM 4-2-1C
Makes you wonder about SW training standards....sounds like the first engine failure they ever had...
Don't they get them in the SW simulator every six months. ..
AIM 6-3-1c
What's up with Southwest lately? Maybe it's all just a coincidence but they've been having so many issues lately. They used to be so reliable.
It's all a coincidence. Other airlines have been having problems as well but the media just seems to be focusing on SWA since the Christmas meltdown. An AA flight had an engine failure about two months ago but it was sparsely covered.
I'm always amazed that for an emergency aircraft, you would go 25 miles at close terrain clearances.
Lotta checklists to work on.
Really, the plane flys great on one engine. Better to run all the checklists and ensure good landing data than to rush in.
I was concerned when the ATC controller gave them a VERY EARLY northerly turn towards the runway! Fortunately, the pilots ignored that and focused on making things safe before turning in.
Now…an active FIRE would be a different animal, and would likely warrant an expedited return. In this case, though…with a good shutdown of the bad engine…it’s better to take your time and not rush.
@@cyberentomology
Only Eng fail Check after memory items.
No other failures.
Descent and Approach check
That's it.
Landing check on final.
What else..??
Maybe review evacuation drill.
Train for it all the time .
Any jet with this sort of failure will safely land back on the runway it just departed from..
@@737smartin Yes ...early turns because they said "catastrophic "
They misled the excellent Controller because of their poor non standard radio calls ..
@@daftvader4218 I don't know what else they had, but I know our airline would have us handle the boldface; notify and get visual report on engine from flight attendants; finish engine failure checklist; request, brief, program and set Flaps 15 landing data (hot brakes?); review the single engine approach, landing, and go arnd procedures; set up for and brief approach; and tell the flight attendants and passengers what to expect. They may have had hydraulic issues, as it was a destructive failure, including a thrown blade or three. I might call that a catastrophic failure, too. I'm not about to label it a miscommunication! 😲
I love how all these folks keep their cool and professionalism throughout this entire ordeal.
I love how they flew over the flat city of Phoenix the entire emergency, and the controller tried a half dozen times to get them back and away from that little thing called the MOUNTAINS.
Question for someone familiar with aviation... The captain mentioned the first officer was flying until he took over towards the final part. Is that typical in these types of events?
Yes it can be, the captain during an emergency is running checklists, trouble shooting, making decisions and coordinating all of the flight crew for an emergency. The FO and him are executing and confirming with one another but having the FO fly this pattern and navigate back to the airport in this case makes sense. The plane lost engines but still flys well, he set them up for the approach and the captain took over for the final phase of flight.
Captain has to fly the approach, if it is single engine. Captain will often let the FO fly up until the approach, allowing the Captain to make sure all the emergency procedures are taken care of, and the checklist is completed.
generally what we do in the USAF.
@@lavender-ox8mi thanks for such a thorough answer!
@@bisbonian1183 makes a lot of sense. Thank you!
How many engines do a passenger plane have and what likelhood for all engines to have catastrobic engine failure what would cause it
Commercial passenger planes always have two or more engines. They must be able to fly on one engine well enough to get down safely after an engine failure.
@@GH-oi2jf slight correction: not only must they be able to fly, they must be able to continue to climb
Just being curious.. I know that in case of emergency a checklists need to be run, but while they run them, is it the most safe way to actually fly away from the airport? Would not be some circling nearby safer option? Again, only curious about what the procedure is. In the end it was an amazing job safely done.
The Captain handled this like a boss. 😎
I just don’t get why it is so difficult for us pilots to spit out a mayday instead of mumbling something about engine failures and emergency aircraft
Question - Why such a long time running checklists away from the airport? Would they not want to turn towards airport as soon as possible since on only 1 engine? Thanks :)
The engine has to be shut down, checklists run, flight attendants to communicate the plan to, run the landing weight performance, let dispatch know, inform the passengers, and have a ground game plan in case the motor decides to light on fire when we land. Yes, I was the Captain. Great question by the way. Thank you!!!
@@constantinetzavaras7668 Thanks for the answer. Can you estimate the time it took from the moment of the engine failure to the time you were on the ground? Just curious :)
One thing to think about is that 25 miles at 160 KTS (Probably Was Going Faster) is just over 8 minutes. That 25 miles goes by fast, especially when you’re dealing with the work load that they are.
Hi MaUriR6
Like the Controllers you are confused by the non standard RT .
That is why they keep offering radar vectors which were then refused.They even offered an alternate field.
All adds to the RT load.
According to the FAA / ICAO an emergency should be defined to indicate threat.
This emergency was a simple contained failure with no other aircraft systems effected.
The level of emergency should be defined as a.... Mayday( immediate life threat ) or a Pan (urgent)
Initial call....
PAN PAN X 3.
SW 9010
#1 ENG FAILURE.
126 persons .....or standby number.
FUEL 25 thousand lbs
Then....
SW 9010 Request radar vectors to a 10 mile final runway O8 with emergency services on standby.
In my 43 years of worldwide flying I have never heard so much superficial non standard chat.
Eg..
I have never heard a Captain telling ATC that " he" is flying the "baby" even....
Most pilots just call "FINALS"
Not my opinion...
The facts are in FAA AIM
4-2-1 c. .
Goggle it.....
FAA AIM
And yes..... I have had 8 engine failure /shut downs especially in the early days.
The last one out of Bangkok was similar to this but I had to dump 100 tons of fuel .
I didn't even declare a Pan or a Mayday as I still had three left on the good old 747-400.
Thank you Boeing. ..
@@constantinetzavaras7668
Hi...I think you will find that any runway you depart from will allow a safe return landing with one engine failure and no other failure. .