Outstanding job by the first officer, the off duty pilot and all the controllers involved. The first officer really showed his leadership abilities in a stressful situation. While having the backup with the off duty pilot was probably very helpful, it should also be pointed out how well the FO was handling things initially. Hopefully that FO is slotted for a captains seat soon. Bravo Zulu.
My wife was on an American flight out of Charlotte and a fellow passenger had an apparent heart attack. When asked if any medical personnel were on board my wife raised her hand as she is a registered nurse (25 years). She provided emergency care and posted updates to a MD on the ground via the plane's captain until they landed to an awaiting ambulance. I'm pretty proud of her!
I used to work as a flight attendant and once right before landing in Manilla a passenger had a heart attack.Tried CPR on him but unfortunately it didn't work.Just felt awful for who ever was waiting for him on the airport.
@@snuglife599 he didn't need help. Listen to the audio. He was perfectly fine on his own. The off duty pilot joined in well into the return to the airport. The co-pilot was doing great and had no need for help. I assume the off duty pilot went up there on his own and offered help, but all he did was communication and even that only part of the time. You can tell who's talking since the off-duty pilot says the flight number differently than everyone else.
I'm a frequent flyer, the only time I've ever heard a request for medical personnel onboard was on a Saudia 777 - business class lit up like a Christmas tree - 15 anaesthetists, on their way to a conference. Thankfully, the collapsed passenger was not seriously ill.
Wow! Super surprised. I’m an anesthesiologist and I’ve answered the call several times on US flights (heart attack, stroke, vomiting), and I don’t travel a ton. But you’re right- to need medical help on a flight with anesthesiologists flying to a conference is to be in great hands!
Reminds me of that one flight I'd heard about where someone had a heart attack- and most of the passengers were highly-skilled cardiologists going home from a convention. Some people just get hella lucky.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Unlike the guy who tried to hold up a bar only to find that the SWAT team was celebrating a team member's retirement in the back room.
"now arriving Gate 8, Gate 9, Gate 10, Gate 13, Gate 14, Gate 15, Gate 23, Gate 24, Gate 25. " "I just want to tell you both good luck we're all counting on you. "
I’m very impressed. Can’t imagine suddenly being on your own in this situation. His communication skills were on point, well done to him. Also to that off-duty pilots, kudos for him reaching out to help and get the aircraft down safely as a team!
@@V1AbortV2 Over 25,000 commercial flights operate every day in the United States, the vast majority of them with 2 pilots, all of whom have had the jab. What that means is that on this particular day, thousands of flight crews (minus one) did NOT have a pilot incapacitated (not to mention the thousands more flight crews the next day or the day before). So by your logic, the jab is actually very safe. PS - pilots occasionally got incapacitated BEFORE the jab too. I think it's more likely that he had the fish.
I'm impressed, that off duty pilot from another airline kept saying Southwest instead of the callsign of the airline he actually flies for. Once when I went flying, a pilot in a Cessna kept saying "American *pause* cessna (tailnumber)".
Ha! Bet it made a few ATC’s smile along the way at least, seeing your Cessna ID’d while you called it Southwest lol. Bet it happens a fair bit when airline pilots fly their own planes etc 😃😊
That is thanks to the FAA mandating industry wide rules for crew resource management. Any pilot can step in and help out regardless off company. But both pilots did amazing and the ATC controllers deserve credit for expediting the flight and getting them everything they need. Job well done to all!
I worked for a Major airline for 15 years for those that don't know most pilots commute to work to their Base City via airlines. Most pilots do not live in the domain city they fly out of, so pilots are on flights everyday all day getting to their home or domain city. Pilots jump seat to get from home to work and back everyday. Last stat I saw was over 60% of pilots commute (via airlines). At least half the flights I boarded had a pilot commuting on them.
If this doesn't impress viewers, little will. This First Officer did an amazing job. Then, another pilot offered his assistance, not to mention those helping the captain. I think I speak for everyone when I say our respect to the crew and our well wishes for the captain.
So very competent and efficient under what must have been an enormous amount of pressure. Clearly the FO is absolutely more than capable of commanding an aircraft, but that wasn’t necessarily just his Captain, it could very likely have also been his friend. And I’d say so judging by the amount of detail he easily relayed off about him. Seeing a friend ill like that adds a whole extra layer of pressure. I bet he was glad to have the support of the off-duty pilot to relieve him from some of the comms, but also just for moral support so the seat next to him wasn’t empty. I hope the Captain is making a recovery now and I hope someone bought that FO a beer or 3 that evening! 🙏🏻👏🏻
Great job here highlighting another tense moment in aviation handled very professionally by the FO and ATC. It’s unfortunate that there isn’t a way to capture all of the comm that he had to coordinate. He was most likely coordinating with FAs on the plan, briefing the pax, setting up a patch through company radio with medlink for the FAs to work on the CA. Dealing with a new guy there to help who has no idea how to work his own seat. Then coordinating with ATC to land on a non-standard runway, and at some point, run checklists and fly the plane. He did a great job. Hats off.
Don't think the off duty pilot was lost in the cockpit. Many off duty com pilots fly commerical to position for their own flights. I'm sure he was a huge help once he got seated and his headset on. Chances are he has a TC in some kind of Boing and maybe the 37.
The off duty pilot may not be type rated in the 737. While a plane is a plane, there are subtle differences. You can’t just hop in from a 320 to a 737 and know where all the buttons are to help the qualified FO. I am sure if it was low IFR predicating a CAT 3 approach, things would’ve been much more intense. I take it you don’t hold an ATP or run 121 ops?
@@CaptainCreampie69 none of us can speculate what happened, but my guess is that the off duty FO was in the cockpit helping with radio and checklists. the southwest FO was likely the pilot flying most of the time, which is I think what the original comment was suggesting.
@@CaptainCreampie69 In these cases they’ll be the PM and likely handling the radios and basics for setting up. They won’t be pushing or pulling anything they’re unfamiliar with and the PF can still prompt where things are if unfamiliar. Just taking the radio work off the PF is a big relief during a stressful situation. So the off duty pilot was doing a lot to help, but the FO would’ve certainly had it handled had there not been another pilot to hop in and make it a bit easier. But no pilot should decline help in these situations where at minimum you can have them handling the radios at most, allowing you to focus on flying.
I've been in a train that just abruptly stopped while slowly going through a lot of switches before the big station. A minute or 2 later there was a PA asking if there was perchance a train driver on board. My immediate reaction was "how did we get here then without one??" Afterwards it became apparent he missed a red signal, emergency stop kicked in and now we needed a new train driver since the one who drove through red is suspended from driving. Took 20 minutes to get a replacement there before we continued. A whole lot to just say: I would really freak out if I hear "is there a pilot on board somewhere?" since there's no way to just stop the plane and taxi in a replacement pilot...
The stand-in pilot's name is Ted Striker. He flew fighter planes during the war, but as he will readily admit, it's a different sort of flying altogether.
Just FYI for everyone, odds are on almost every domestic flight you'll have an off duty pilot and someone with medical training (EMT, Nurse, Doc, etc). Odds of Joe Shmo with no flight experience being called up to the flight deck is near zero.
Well, there was that one flight several years ago where the only off duty pilot was a B1 Bomber pilot from the Air Force. He pretty much did the same thing that this guy did, man the radios.
Isn’t the flight crew aware of all pilots “jump seating” in the cabin? I thought that was etiquette for all off duty pilots to introduce themselves to the flight crew if riding in the back as non revenue.
I swear, a pilot or controller could sneeze in one of these videos, and this comment section full of couch-critiques would go up in arms. I bet 95% of these commenters have 0 experience as a pilot or ATC. This event was handled very professionally. This boiled down to pilots and controllers doing the best they could to get an aircraft down in an emergency situation. There is 0 reason people need to be jumping on anyone in this video.
This is the best comment so far. Thank you. It is amazing the assumptions, and hear say that is produced from people on these sites. For example; “he pronounced each number of the callsign instead of saying ‘Sixty Thirteen’…the off-duty pilot must be from Europe or something” Gimme a break.
Well done to the Southwest FO, hope he gets a nice promotion soon. Also hope the captain recovers well from whatever happened and is back behind the yoke soon, can't find any updates regarding their condition.
@@mcraft2240 NO! but in this messed up world good people are very reluctant to step up and do the right thing for fear of bad things coming from doing the right thing and have ambulance chasing lawyers suing everyone guilty or not.
@@mcraft2240 This one turned out ok but it actually transpired that he had only flown Microsoft Flight Simulator on his home PC before this. Goes to show that flying a plane is piss easy.
Listening to this FO goes to show the saying of airlines that they hire FO to be captains or something like that and airlines trains their pilots to the same SOPs and I would like to believe that most FOs knows that they're second in command meaning they should be ready to step up in case their commanders are incapable. CRM training also came into play in this incident and a job well done to all involved
Once a firefighter always a firefighter... I LOVE the vocal excitement in RD40's OIC when he determines he can ladder the door... then the disappointment when he notes the airstairs are approaching. But... superb teamwork, professionalism, and a job brilliantly - and safely - done, all round. Hope the cap's doing better now.
Whether land, air or sea anything is likely to happen and my prayers go out to the Captain of Southwest flight 6013. Wish him all the very best and thanks to the other Pilots who was on board the flight that landed safely. Great communication on everyone's part.
My guess is: there is no gate available at the moment and/or takes a lot longer to go the gate (checklists and procedures) which could delay the evacuation of the captain.
So the discussion being had at the moment about only one crew on the flight deck, what would have happened if that were the case in this instance, and there was no semi trained pilot who just happened to be on board...
Outstanding job to all. Thoughts are with the Captain. Anyone notice the difference with the read back between the two pilots. ie.. southwest sixty thirteen as compared to the volunteer pilot…Southwest six zero thirteen. Old school vs new school?
It's so interesting how professionals in adjacent fields communicate with each other. The captain is incapacitated, and the first officer advises that they'll be stopping on the runway and will require a tow, but ATC doesn't realize that first officers usually don't have a nose wheel tiller on their side or company permission to taxi. It seems like there's no good reason why a perfectly serviceable 737 shouldn't be able to taxi, or at least get off their active runway. They understand what the first officer is saying, but they don't understand why. Pilots don't necessarily understand what ATC is up against sometimes, either, but in this case, I guess they can bend the rules and have a pilot from a different airline taxi the jet from the left seat just a bit to make ATC's day a little easier.
"have a pilot from a different airline taxi the jet from the left seat" Or set the parking brake and then switch seats. But the FO was probably hoping for a rapid offloading almost immediately after full stop, then off towards the hospital from there at much higher than turning/taxi speeds.
@@marcmcreynolds2827 Yeah, thats what I thought all the way through, and I really cant understand, why ATC didnt, nor why ATC didnt make sure to have the stairs and ambulance ready on a taxiway to enter the runway and evacuate the captain, as soon as the plane stopped. I mean, whats the point of rushing to land asap, if they then have to wait several minutes to be able to offload the medical emergency?
Thanks for clearing that up for me - I wondered why they reported unable to clear the runway, because I'd forgotten about the nosewheel tiller only being on the captain's side. I bet you're right, and that the FO got clearance from dispatch to have the other pilot steer the plane off the runway. @markmcreynolds2827 I wouldn't want the FO switching seats unless absolutely necessary - much better to have him stay in the seat that he's trained for. Agree that taxiing to gate C would have probably been quicker in the end, but still completely reasonable for the FO to make the decisions he did.
Why does the pilot at first refuse to vacate the runway? What good reason could there be to insist on blocking the runway instead of stopping at an exit or taxiway?
When I fly or drive, I always have an Israeli bandage with blood stop and a tourniquet with me. I started this practice after doing CPR in the Bejing Airport where there are/were no emergency services and on an Air France international flight with a medical emergency.
You can hear how the FO's voice calmed a bit when the off duty stepped in. Excellent work. He didn't need to exit the runway, but it was nice of him. I'm sure with adrenaline running he did not want to taxi and if anything keep the plane still.
Question, so in this situation is the 1st officer the Pilot and the off duty pilot the 1st officer? Even though he may be more experienced and more knowledgeable he shouldn't be landing the plane right because it wasn't his plane he did the checklist with and may not know all the important details right? A bit confused.
Great job by the off duty pilot. He saved the bacon of the FO there. I am sure he became pretty task saturated there for a bit trying to put the bird on the ground.
I saw this, and it did make the news. The crazy thing about this is I follow this channel and many like it and this is the first time I’d ever been “close” to a story like this! I was on the exact same flight earlier this month. VERY early flight out of Vegas. Sounds like this flight was full if they had 143 on board. Mine was only about 2/3 full and I I say that because MOST middle seats were empty. I do have a question… how do you get the registration number for the aircraft? I never see that info on the Flight Aware app, although I can definitely search by tail number.
@@cruisinguy6024 All I’m saying is that I watch these all of the time and to have been on the same flight just a few weeks earlier TO ME is crazy. I’ve never seen any of these that I was even remotely close to or connected to and I just think it’s very rare. Maybe someone who doesn’t realize just how many flights there are every single day wouldn’t see it as being so crazy.
If you put the flight number in Planes Live it will give you the tail number of the airplane! I fly Southwest all the time and I have a running list of every tail number I’ve been on since 2019. I make Companion status with Southwest every year since 2010!
@@andrewdvorsky Ok. Good tip. Thanks. I also have a list of tail numbers!! I use a particular database to access the tail numbers but it’s only updated every six months so sometimes I have to wait six months. 😕 And it looks like this is best for real time (or very recent) tail numbers not past tail numbers. But that’s ok! Still might be useful in the future when I want to look up the tail number for the plane I’m on in real time instead of waiting six months!! 🙂
When an off-duty pilot from another airline volunteers, since he may or may not be qualified on that particular plane, handling the radio is the best way he can help. The priority order for a pilot is "Aviate (keep the plane flying), Navigate, and communicate". Communication is normally the responsibility of the pilot who is not flying at the the moment. So having that pilot volunteer was a great help, since the FO didn't have to add that to his workload.
@@BillinHungary exactly, he also helps out with monitoring instruments etc. Im guessing the reason they couldnt go straight to ramp was also because the ground steering was on captains side, and the off duty was not familiar and/or comfortable operating that.
@@neilrobertson1345 I have a commercial license with multi engine and instrument ratings. I don't have an ATP. I am very familiar with aviate, navigate, communicate as I lost oil pressure and had a small amount of smoke in the left engine of a Baron I was flying 2 years ago. I'm going to guess that when it comes down to it, any off duty pilot could actually fly the plane and get it down on the ground, regardless of type ratings. The bottom line is, the FO is getting NO PRAISE for doing what he was trained to do AND MORE, and I'm guessing he had his hands full. Instead the guy in the back who may have been dozing off, looking at his phone or laptop, or gazing out the window, does the least difficult task of the aviate, navigate, communicate and media is singing his praise, while you hear boo about the FO. I'm saying damn good job FO, because I don't think he's getting what he deserves. He's basically the Jeff Skiles in this flight.
Kinda curious how the other pilot joined the FO in the cockpit. Did the FO ask if there were any other pilots on board and how did he verify this guy was legit
Great job by the FO. He knew what had to be done, was decisive in his plan, asked for the outside assistance he needed. He even caught the assignment to the other runway, and asked for what he wanted instead. He was offered the visual approach, but stuck to his plan for the ILS. I'd guess he already had it selected in the AP(or whatever they call it in the 737) and didn't want the extra workload at that moment. As someone mentioned down thread, the CVR of the interactions between the FO and the other pilot would be a great training tool.
Navigational waypoints that help define arrival and approach routes - they are coded and stored in the flight management computer and are easy for the crew to reference when making their approach to a particular runway.
can someone post timestamps on wheb we hear the FO and when we hear the off-duty pilot? I'm very bad at telling voices apart, so I'm wondering if we're always hearing the stand-in pilot or if it's 2 different guys
Anyone know why they refused to taxi in and asked for the tug? They clearly were able to use the tiller to get off the runway. Wouldn't it have been faster to taxi in to then eliminate the need for airstairs? I am only a GA pilot, so not familiar with this.
What would it take to make both-sides nose-wheel steering mandatory for certification of new designs? I know this isn't the first captain-incapacitated-can't-steer incident I've watched.
Maybe this a stupid question but why did he not just taxi into a gate? The air stairs seemed to add time to this situation. Wouldnt the gate have been much faster?
It absolutely is a dumb question - there is no nosewheel steering tiller in the right seat on a 737. The FO can taxi in a straight line, but is not able to make any turns. This is why he wanted a tow to the gate. 🤦
Great job by the first officer. Any idea why he initially declined getting off the runway and requested a tug? Wouldn't it be faster to get off on the taxiway or ramp?
My guess is the 737 only has a tiller for ground steering for the left seat. I'm assuming the co-pilot stayed in his seat on the right and the passenger pilot that helped out took the left seat. I guess the co-pilot was not sure if the non-southwest pilot was able to steer the plane off the runway at first. Just a guess.
I'm not sure of this aircraft type, but aren't there some aircraft that can only be taxied from the captains seat? If the off duty pilot isn't a captain on that aircraft type there's no one in the captains seat that can taxi the aircraft
Exactly right - the 737 only has a nose wheel tiller on the captain’s side. The FO has some limited nose wheel steering ability through the rudder pedals , but not enough to maneuver into the gate. The FO did a great job getting the jet as clear of the runway as he did.
@@ChrisRodel the captain was at the back, FO could have taken his seat _but_ is only certified for the left seat! don't know about the off duty pilot though
Outstanding job by the first officer, the off duty pilot and all the controllers involved. The first officer really showed his leadership abilities in a stressful situation. While having the backup with the off duty pilot was probably very helpful, it should also be pointed out how well the FO was handling things initially. Hopefully that FO is slotted for a captains seat soon. Bravo Zulu.
S! to that First officer. outstanding job
I guess I would have expected him to react like he did. No surprises here.
@@mcraft2240 Not all pilots are created equal. Not everyone handles pressure the same.
What’s your authority to be judging? Are you an aviation investigator?
@@austinsmith3493 Nice and snarky. You found the right place. Yahoo comments.
My wife was on an American flight out of Charlotte and a fellow passenger had an apparent heart attack. When asked if any medical personnel were on board my wife raised her hand as she is a registered nurse (25 years). She provided emergency care and posted updates to a MD on the ground via the plane's captain until they landed to an awaiting ambulance. I'm pretty proud of her!
She did a great job 👍
I used to work as a flight attendant and once right before landing in Manilla a passenger had a heart attack.Tried CPR on him but unfortunately it didn't work.Just felt awful for who ever was waiting for him on the airport.
The real heroes among us ✌
I used to work emergency response for that particular airport. Hope all was well for that passenger. 🚑 🚒
We are too! Thank you Ma’am
the Southwest first officer did a great job. Very calm and professional. He was doing fine even before the off-duty pilot joined him in the cockpit.
He could surely have landed on his own, but I bet he appreciated the extra pair of hands!
Great job, indeed
Wow! Excellent team work.
Great that everyone was safe but isn’t that why there’s a co-captain? Help is great n all but if the co-captain needs help I’m a little shocked🤔
@@snuglife599 he didn't need help. Listen to the audio. He was perfectly fine on his own. The off duty pilot joined in well into the return to the airport. The co-pilot was doing great and had no need for help. I assume the off duty pilot went up there on his own and offered help, but all he did was communication and even that only part of the time. You can tell who's talking since the off-duty pilot says the flight number differently than everyone else.
I'm a frequent flyer, the only time I've ever heard a request for medical personnel onboard was on a Saudia 777 - business class lit up like a Christmas tree - 15 anaesthetists, on their way to a conference. Thankfully, the collapsed passenger was not seriously ill.
Wow! Super surprised. I’m an anesthesiologist and I’ve answered the call several times on US flights (heart attack, stroke, vomiting), and I don’t travel a ton. But you’re right- to need medical help on a flight with anesthesiologists flying to a conference is to be in great hands!
Having Medically trained personnel and an off duty pilot, That flight was in good hands!
Reminds me of that one flight I'd heard about where someone had a heart attack- and most of the passengers were highly-skilled cardiologists going home from a convention. Some people just get hella lucky.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Unlike the guy who tried to hold up a bar only to find that the SWAT team was celebrating a team member's retirement in the back room.
@@festerbestertester1658 now THAT is fucking hilarious 😂
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 that person who had the heart attack was extremely lucky!
“Can you fly this plane? And land it?”
“Surely you can’t be serious.”
“I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley.”
"now arriving Gate 8, Gate 9, Gate 10, Gate 13, Gate 14, Gate 15, Gate 23, Gate 24, Gate 25. "
"I just want to tell you both good luck we're all counting on you. "
I’m very impressed. Can’t imagine suddenly being on your own in this situation. His communication skills were on point, well done to him. Also to that off-duty pilots, kudos for him reaching out to help and get the aircraft down safely as a team!
Can I say this is a very good example of why we always want two (2) pilots on the flight deck?
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💉💉💉💉
@@timrainger8908 Couldn't agree more. My best guess would be that he had the jab. Unfortunate.
@@V1AbortV2 Over 25,000 commercial flights operate every day in the United States, the vast majority of them with 2 pilots, all of whom have had the jab. What that means is that on this particular day, thousands of flight crews (minus one) did NOT have a pilot incapacitated (not to mention the thousands more flight crews the next day or the day before). So by your logic, the jab is actually very safe. PS - pilots occasionally got incapacitated BEFORE the jab too.
I think it's more likely that he had the fish.
@@air47wa Spot on... can't believe there are still these idiots kicking around with their conspiracy theories!
I'm impressed, that off duty pilot from another airline kept saying Southwest instead of the callsign of the airline he actually flies for. Once when I went flying, a pilot in a Cessna kept saying "American *pause* cessna (tailnumber)".
I can relate to that!
I was thinking the same thing.
Old habits die hard!!
It is an emergency, FORGET the technical man. Happy piloting.
Ha! Bet it made a few ATC’s smile along the way at least, seeing your Cessna ID’d while you called it Southwest lol. Bet it happens a fair bit when airline pilots fly their own planes etc 😃😊
Hats off to the off-duty pilot 🫡
Hope the pilot is okay 🙏🏼
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@@YouCanSeeATC what aircraft the off-duty pilot flies because if it's airbus, I believe he could just do the communications part.
As it was reported the pilot was fully licensed. So I believe he had Boeing NG type rating.
@@YouCanSeeATC he was apparently a pilot for NetJets, so no 737 type rating.
All he did was work the radios! How about hats off to the FO who did everything else!!
This is outstanding. Well done by everyone involved. This is what Aviation is all about. Coming together and flying safe and efficient as a team.
exactly well done to al,l Pray for the Captain.
That’s not what happened on 9/11
Great example of coordination between two pilots working together well for the first time.
That is thanks to the FAA mandating industry wide rules for crew resource management. Any pilot can step in and help out regardless off company. But both pilots did amazing and the ATC controllers deserve credit for expediting the flight and getting them everything they need. Job well done to all!
Kudos to the FO. He made all the right decisions. The off duty pilot certainly helped.
I worked for a Major airline for 15 years for those that don't know most pilots commute to work to their Base City via airlines. Most pilots do not live in the domain city they fly out of, so pilots are on flights everyday all day getting to their home or domain city. Pilots jump seat to get from home to work and back everyday. Last stat I saw was over 60% of pilots commute (via airlines). At least half the flights I boarded had a pilot commuting on them.
Amazing job done by the first officer and the off-duty pilot 💪 Prayers that the captain is hopefully doing okay and getting well.
The pilot is doing ok🙌
Amazing work by the FO, flight crew and off duty pilot. Hope the Capt. Made a full recovery.
Thank you, co pilot southwest and the pilot whos assisted, for the great work of ATC and fire and ambulance crew, that was one professional team!!
"You can see ATC" never missed.
As usual, this is a great informative video.
Thank you for watching 🙂
If this doesn't impress viewers, little will. This First Officer did an amazing job. Then, another pilot offered his assistance, not to mention those helping the captain. I think I speak for everyone when I say our respect to the crew and our well wishes for the captain.
So very competent and efficient under what must have been an enormous amount of pressure. Clearly the FO is absolutely more than capable of commanding an aircraft, but that wasn’t necessarily just his Captain, it could very likely have also been his friend. And I’d say so judging by the amount of detail he easily relayed off about him. Seeing a friend ill like that adds a whole extra layer of pressure. I bet he was glad to have the support of the off-duty pilot to relieve him from some of the comms, but also just for moral support so the seat next to him wasn’t empty.
I hope the Captain is making a recovery now and I hope someone bought that FO a beer or 3 that evening! 🙏🏻👏🏻
Great job here highlighting another tense moment in aviation handled very professionally by the FO and ATC. It’s unfortunate that there isn’t a way to capture all of the comm that he had to coordinate. He was most likely coordinating with FAs on the plan, briefing the pax, setting up a patch through company radio with medlink for the FAs to work on the CA. Dealing with a new guy there to help who has no idea how to work his own seat. Then coordinating with ATC to land on a non-standard runway, and at some point, run checklists and fly the plane. He did a great job. Hats off.
hopefully a movie, or a tv special.
Don't think the off duty pilot was lost in the cockpit. Many off duty com pilots fly commerical to position for their own flights. I'm sure he was a huge help once he got seated and his headset on. Chances are he has a TC in some kind of Boing and maybe the 37.
Everyone is saying kudos to the off duty pilot. Why not kudos to the Southwest FO he deserves all the credit
The off duty pilot may not be type rated in the 737. While a plane is a plane, there are subtle differences. You can’t just hop in from a 320 to a 737 and know where all the buttons are to help the qualified FO. I am sure if it was low IFR predicating a CAT 3 approach, things would’ve been much more intense. I take it you don’t hold an ATP or run 121 ops?
@@CaptainCreampie69 none of us can speculate what happened, but my guess is that the off duty FO was in the cockpit helping with radio and checklists. the southwest FO was likely the pilot flying most of the time, which is I think what the original comment was suggesting.
@@CaptainCreampie69 In these cases they’ll be the PM and likely handling the radios and basics for setting up. They won’t be pushing or pulling anything they’re unfamiliar with and the PF can still prompt where things are if unfamiliar.
Just taking the radio work off the PF is a big relief during a stressful situation. So the off duty pilot was doing a lot to help, but the FO would’ve certainly had it handled had there not been another pilot to hop in and make it a bit easier. But no pilot should decline help in these situations where at minimum you can have them handling the radios at most, allowing you to focus on flying.
@@CaptainCreampie69 u are a little bit over dramatic 😂😂. By the way, CAT3 doesn’t happen all that often.
@@CaptainCreampie69 Actually both just disappointed it was blown into off duty pilot saves the day hype
It's friggin amazing how calm airline pilots are.
I've been in a train that just abruptly stopped while slowly going through a lot of switches before the big station. A minute or 2 later there was a PA asking if there was perchance a train driver on board. My immediate reaction was "how did we get here then without one??" Afterwards it became apparent he missed a red signal, emergency stop kicked in and now we needed a new train driver since the one who drove through red is suspended from driving. Took 20 minutes to get a replacement there before we continued.
A whole lot to just say: I would really freak out if I hear "is there a pilot on board somewhere?" since there's no way to just stop the plane and taxi in a replacement pilot...
Ugh, was it the end of the shift?
Automatic brake activation after a Spad.
LA center controller was awesome, Calm and collected just what the first officer needed ! Outstanding video...
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That was my son 🥰👍🏼
@@robintitus8295 The LA center Controller?
@@JMHTruck32005 yep
@@robintitus8295 Awesome, Does he know about this video? I for one wish I could buy him a beverage of his choosing!😎
Talk about being a proffesional! bravo to that pilot!
Why not name the hero off duty pilot, even from another airline, name it also, that did a superb job!
All brothers up there!!!👍🏻
The stand-in pilot's name is Ted Striker. He flew fighter planes during the war, but as he will readily admit, it's a different sort of flying altogether.
@@festerbestertester1658 Nice...lol
"I told you not to eat the fish"
FO did an amazing job! Hope the Captain is Ok.
Excellent crew and ATC.
Just FYI for everyone, odds are on almost every domestic flight you'll have an off duty pilot and someone with medical training (EMT, Nurse, Doc, etc). Odds of Joe Shmo with no flight experience being called up to the flight deck is near zero.
Well, there was that one flight several years ago where the only off duty pilot was a B1 Bomber pilot from the Air Force. He pretty much did the same thing that this guy did, man the radios.
Isn’t the flight crew aware of all pilots “jump seating” in the cabin? I thought that was etiquette for all off duty pilots to introduce themselves to the flight crew if riding in the back as non revenue.
@@RadioNJ1948
The pilot was flying in uniform his own airline was paying for him to go to another airport. He was sitting in the cabin.
I swear, a pilot or controller could sneeze in one of these videos, and this comment section full of couch-critiques would go up in arms. I bet 95% of these commenters have 0 experience as a pilot or ATC.
This event was handled very professionally. This boiled down to pilots and controllers doing the best they could to get an aircraft down in an emergency situation. There is 0 reason people need to be jumping on anyone in this video.
This is the best comment so far. Thank you. It is amazing the assumptions, and hear say that is produced from people on these sites. For example; “he pronounced each number of the callsign instead of saying ‘Sixty Thirteen’…the off-duty pilot must be from Europe or something” Gimme a break.
Well done to the Southwest FO, hope he gets a nice promotion soon. Also hope the captain recovers well from whatever happened and is back behind the yoke soon, can't find any updates regarding their condition.
Kudos to the off-duty pilot for stepping up to get everybody back safely
Nicely handled.
Offer Letter from Southwest inbound for the FO.
Great breakdown of the incident
Can never read the outcome, at the end, because of all the links for other videos cover whatever is printed.
Very calm F/O he and the pilot who stepped up to assist should be highly commended
Why? Did you expect him to decline to go up and help.
@@mcraft2240 NO! but in this messed up world good people are very reluctant to step up and do the right thing for fear of bad things coming from doing the right thing and have ambulance chasing lawyers suing everyone guilty or not.
@@mcraft2240 This one turned out ok but it actually transpired that he had only flown Microsoft Flight Simulator on his home PC before this. Goes to show that flying a plane is piss easy.
Anything come up, I am in the back seat. Licensed drone pilot here
Haha!! 😁
I’m afraid we’re not far from that
Tony saves the day, again😊
Over 50 hours on MSFS 2020 here. Reporting for duty!
I’ve had a 1 hour microlight lesson, I’m here if you need.
Listening to this FO goes to show the saying of airlines that they hire FO to be captains or something like that and airlines trains their pilots to the same SOPs and I would like to believe that most FOs knows that they're second in command meaning they should be ready to step up in case their commanders are incapable. CRM training also came into play in this incident and a job well done to all involved
Way to go to the off duty captain from another airline. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Medical personnel AND captain on board... That was one of the luckiest bad situation I can think of. Nice work everyone!
I hope the Captain recovered. Great job by the First Officer. Lovely. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching 🙂
The tiller is on the captain side so maybe that's why's they thought they couldn't taxi?
7:53 landing configuration alarm ?
Nicely put together video here! I'm new to your channel but am certainly subscribed now!
That's the great thing about the Internet. You could find people who feel qualified to critique brain surgery...
Thanks 👍
@@buckhorncortez top left contenders are certainly everywhere!
I'm not a pilot but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
That's good enough for Spirit.
This was handled so incredibly professionally by all parties. I hope the Captain is recovering!
Curious: Could that co-pilot log PIC time in this situation?
definitely should also get 2x credit for the stressfullness
You're a moron 🖕
First Officers can always log PIC when they are the sole manipulator of the controls.
Once a firefighter always a firefighter... I LOVE the vocal excitement in RD40's OIC when he determines he can ladder the door... then the disappointment when he notes the airstairs are approaching. But... superb teamwork, professionalism, and a job brilliantly - and safely - done, all round. Hope the cap's doing better now.
The disappointment had me picturing this big firefighter in full gear doing the :( face
Why did it take so long to get the airstairs to the aircraft? Do they have no highspeed airstair vehicle like here in germany?
Excellent job First Officer!
Whether land, air or sea anything is likely to happen and my prayers go out to the Captain of Southwest flight 6013.
Wish him all the very best and thanks to the other Pilots who was on board the flight that landed safely.
Great communication on everyone's part.
Awesome job
shouldn't the altimeter be read back? It was never done.
And people are talking about putting only 1 Pilot in the cockpit. 🤔
Airlines can save the cost of putting a second pilot in the cockpit simply by placing a "God is my copilot" bumper sticker on the door.
Nicely done. Best wishes to the captain.
that was smoothly handled- kudos to all.
Why would they need to be tugged to the gate, any specific reason? Maybe i'm miss interpreting the meaning.
My guess is: there is no gate available at the moment and/or takes a lot longer to go the gate (checklists and procedures) which could delay the evacuation of the captain.
So the discussion being had at the moment about only one crew on the flight deck, what would have happened if that were the case in this instance, and there was no semi trained pilot who just happened to be on board...
Outstanding job to all. Thoughts are with the Captain. Anyone notice the difference with the read back between the two pilots. ie.. southwest sixty thirteen as compared to the volunteer pilot…Southwest six zero thirteen. Old school vs new school?
Would they have been able to get medical attention more quickly by not going to the gate?
I guess the plane only had steering on the captains side, and the guest pilot was not rated on that model?
My only question this entire time, who logs PIC?
You REALLY think that joke was funny? You're the reason why society is in shambles right now.
What was the deal about the gate number?
The ground controller in the tower probably wanted to know where to send the ambulance.
Well done! That FO was on point.
Wait, is the FO Tony Hinchcliffe?
It's so interesting how professionals in adjacent fields communicate with each other. The captain is incapacitated, and the first officer advises that they'll be stopping on the runway and will require a tow, but ATC doesn't realize that first officers usually don't have a nose wheel tiller on their side or company permission to taxi. It seems like there's no good reason why a perfectly serviceable 737 shouldn't be able to taxi, or at least get off their active runway. They understand what the first officer is saying, but they don't understand why. Pilots don't necessarily understand what ATC is up against sometimes, either, but in this case, I guess they can bend the rules and have a pilot from a different airline taxi the jet from the left seat just a bit to make ATC's day a little easier.
"have a pilot from a different airline taxi the jet from the left seat" Or set the parking brake and then switch seats. But the FO was probably hoping for a rapid offloading almost immediately after full stop, then off towards the hospital from there at much higher than turning/taxi speeds.
@@marcmcreynolds2827 Yeah, thats what I thought all the way through, and I really cant understand, why ATC didnt, nor why ATC didnt make sure to have the stairs and ambulance ready on a taxiway to enter the runway and evacuate the captain, as soon as the plane stopped. I mean, whats the point of rushing to land asap, if they then have to wait several minutes to be able to offload the medical emergency?
Ahh... I was wondering why they wanted to stop on the runway. I
Thanks for clearing that up for me - I wondered why they reported unable to clear the runway, because I'd forgotten about the nosewheel tiller only being on the captain's side.
I bet you're right, and that the FO got clearance from dispatch to have the other pilot steer the plane off the runway.
@markmcreynolds2827 I wouldn't want the FO switching seats unless absolutely necessary - much better to have him stay in the seat that he's trained for. Agree that taxiing to gate C would have probably been quicker in the end, but still completely reasonable for the FO to make the decisions he did.
Keep up the good work. So much better than the other one.
What's with asking for a gate number to an aircraft in emergency!?
Why does the pilot at first refuse to vacate the runway? What good reason could there be to insist on blocking the runway instead of stopping at an exit or taxiway?
When I fly or drive, I always have an Israeli bandage with blood stop and a tourniquet with me. I started this practice after doing CPR in the Bejing Airport where there are/were no emergency services and on an Air France international flight with a medical emergency.
You can hear how the FO's voice calmed a bit when the off duty stepped in. Excellent work. He didn't need to exit the runway, but it was nice of him. I'm sure with adrenaline running he did not want to taxi and if anything keep the plane still.
Question, so in this situation is the 1st officer the Pilot and the off duty pilot the 1st officer? Even though he may be more experienced and more knowledgeable he shouldn't be landing the plane right because it wasn't his plane he did the checklist with and may not know all the important details right? A bit confused.
Great job by the off duty pilot. He saved the bacon of the FO there. I am sure he became pretty task saturated there for a bit trying to put the bird on the ground.
First Officer outstanding professional handling of the emergency situation. Brave, Blessed you.
I am sure everyone wanted to get to Columbus but I’ll also bet that plane was full of prayers for the captain.
That was an amazing job!
I saw this, and it did make the news. The crazy thing about this is I follow this channel and many like it and this is the first time I’d ever been “close” to a story like this! I was on the exact same flight earlier this month. VERY early flight out of Vegas. Sounds like this flight was full if they had 143 on board. Mine was only about 2/3 full and I I say that because MOST middle seats were empty.
I do have a question… how do you get the registration number for the aircraft? I never see that info on the Flight Aware app, although I can definitely search by tail number.
Wow. You flew a month before this incident? Damn, I hope you’re okay and getting the help you need to recover.
@@cruisinguy6024 All I’m saying is that I watch these all of the time and to have been on the same flight just a few weeks earlier TO ME is crazy. I’ve never seen any of these that I was even remotely close to or connected to and I just think it’s very rare. Maybe someone who doesn’t realize just how many flights there are every single day wouldn’t see it as being so crazy.
@@cruisinguy6024 Be nice, but I will say that I got a good hearty laugh from your comment.
If you put the flight number in Planes Live it will give you the tail number of the airplane! I fly Southwest all the time and I have a running list of every tail number I’ve been on since 2019. I make Companion status with Southwest every year since 2010!
@@andrewdvorsky Ok. Good tip. Thanks. I also have a list of tail numbers!! I use a particular database to access the tail numbers but it’s only updated every six months so sometimes I have to wait six months. 😕
And it looks like this is best for real time (or very recent) tail numbers not past tail numbers. But that’s ok! Still might be useful in the future when I want to look up the tail number for the plane I’m on in real time instead of waiting six months!! 🙂
FO flew the plane, navigated and successfully landed the plane, while the off duty pilot keyed the mic? Good job, FO!
When an off-duty pilot from another airline volunteers, since he may or may not be qualified on that particular plane, handling the radio is the best way he can help. The priority order for a pilot is "Aviate (keep the plane flying), Navigate, and communicate". Communication is normally the responsibility of the pilot who is not flying at the the moment. So having that pilot volunteer was a great help, since the FO didn't have to add that to his workload.
@@BillinHungary exactly, he also helps out with monitoring instruments etc. Im guessing the reason they couldnt go straight to ramp was also because the ground steering was on captains side, and the off duty was not familiar and/or comfortable operating that.
@@Nardur12321
Glad I read your comment because I was wondering about it too.Turns out B 737 has only one "tiller"
JayRosin dont get jealous have you done this or better in real life terms can you ?
@@neilrobertson1345 I have a commercial license with multi engine and instrument ratings. I don't have an ATP. I am very familiar with aviate, navigate, communicate as I lost oil pressure and had a small amount of smoke in the left engine of a Baron I was flying 2 years ago. I'm going to guess that when it comes down to it, any off duty pilot could actually fly the plane and get it down on the ground, regardless of type ratings. The bottom line is, the FO is getting NO PRAISE for doing what he was trained to do AND MORE, and I'm guessing he had his hands full. Instead the guy in the back who may have been dozing off, looking at his phone or laptop, or gazing out the window, does the least difficult task of the aviate, navigate, communicate and media is singing his praise, while you hear boo about the FO. I'm saying damn good job FO, because I don't think he's getting what he deserves. He's basically the Jeff Skiles in this flight.
Why didn't they go to SLC?
Kinda curious how the other pilot joined the FO in the cockpit. Did the FO ask if there were any other pilots on board and how did he verify this guy was legit
Great job by the FO. He knew what had to be done, was decisive in his plan, asked for the outside assistance he needed.
He even caught the assignment to the other runway, and asked for what he wanted instead.
He was offered the visual approach, but stuck to his plan for the ILS. I'd guess he already had it selected in the AP(or whatever they call it in the 737) and didn't want the extra workload at that moment.
As someone mentioned down thread, the CVR of the interactions between the FO and the other pilot would be a great training tool.
What is PRINO, CONDY and FLYES?
Navigational waypoints that help define arrival and approach routes - they are coded and stored in the flight management computer and are easy for the crew to reference when making their approach to a particular runway.
@@ChrisRodel Cool, thank you!
What does ILS 26R mean?
Instrument landing system for runway 28.
can someone post timestamps on wheb we hear the FO and when we hear the off-duty pilot? I'm very bad at telling voices apart, so I'm wondering if we're always hearing the stand-in pilot or if it's 2 different guys
Great job all around!
ONCE A PILOT ALWAYS A PILOT, IT'S IN THERE BLOOD.. CONGRATULATIONS SIR..
The moment every pilot waits for! Good job everybody and best wishes to the captain
Ik lol I don’t want this happen but I still do haha. The only way I want be a hero in my life. ❤
@@KR_1886 nobody wants the pilot to be incapacitated Jesus Christ but every pilot wants to be a hero
Nicely done
Anyone know why they refused to taxi in and asked for the tug? They clearly were able to use the tiller to get off the runway. Wouldn't it have been faster to taxi in to then eliminate the need for airstairs? I am only a GA pilot, so not familiar with this.
Any update on the Captain? Was he okay?
What would it take to make both-sides nose-wheel steering mandatory for certification of new designs? I know this isn't the first captain-incapacitated-can't-steer incident I've watched.
Maybe this a stupid question but why did he not just taxi into a gate? The air stairs seemed to add time to this situation. Wouldnt the gate have been much faster?
It absolutely is a dumb question - there is no nosewheel steering tiller in the right seat on a 737. The FO can taxi in a straight line, but is not able to make any turns. This is why he wanted a tow to the gate. 🤦
And that my friends is how it is done. Well done by all! Hope cap recovers quickly
👍😉😎
Why did they not want to taxi off the runway? Was it cause the captain usualy taxis?
Great job by the first officer. Any idea why he initially declined getting off the runway and requested a tug? Wouldn't it be faster to get off on the taxiway or ramp?
My guess is the 737 only has a tiller for ground steering for the left seat. I'm assuming the co-pilot stayed in his seat on the right and the passenger pilot that helped out took the left seat. I guess the co-pilot was not sure if the non-southwest pilot was able to steer the plane off the runway at first.
Just a guess.
Cannot find a fault, superb display of airmanship and all round capabilities. I'd suggest a change of chairs is warranted.
great job by all
I’m intrigued - what could’ve caused the issue stopping them from manoeuvring correctly / requiring a tug?
I'm not sure of this aircraft type, but aren't there some aircraft that can only be taxied from the captains seat? If the off duty pilot isn't a captain on that aircraft type there's no one in the captains seat that can taxi the aircraft
Exactly right - the 737 only has a nose wheel tiller on the captain’s side. The FO has some limited nose wheel steering ability through the rudder pedals , but not enough to maneuver into the gate. The FO did a great job getting the jet as clear of the runway as he did.
@@ChrisRodel the captain was at the back, FO could have taken his seat _but_ is only certified for the left seat! don't know about the off duty pilot though
@@ChrisRodel your most likely right on Target why and they just took the safer option
@@DrWhom -- FO sits in the right seat