@RLTtizME Not surprised at all. Simply pointing out that this is great example of how the ATC system works under unusual stress. Don't get to see this type of scenario often.
these men and women both in the tower and flying the jets deserve our utmost respect for keeping the public safe in the air and on the ground Oh yea and the brave men and women of fire command thank you all
@@Belchmaster41 they didnt - tower was just ensuring they were both on the same freq. - you can be monitoring multiple freqs at once but can only transmit on one.
@@Belchmaster41in general there are a lot of people in the tower monitoring a lot of things so you need to change to talk to the person monitoring your area/activity
And because the video omits all the other traffic - can you imagine how busy ATC was clearing out everyone else into holding patterns in order to give these two planes priority? Phoenix is a really busy airport!. And the pilot of AA2006 has a sense of humor. He knew there was another ongoing emergency and when he heard that there was also a Medevac flight, he said something like "Interesting day!" but he said it with somewhat of a smile as in "Murphy's law in action!
Airline pilots aren't paid to whistle Dixie and sit around... we get paid for times like these. TH-cam is full of "pilot error" content, but very rarely show examples of the countless times, every day, pilots make decisions and perform actions that either prevent an emergency altogether or turn a potentially serious emergency into a non-event through training and experience. Thanks for posting.
I really like the emergency management on these two incidents. The atc knew that the first emergency aircraft could stay airborne for some time. The flaps failure certainly will mean a higher landing speed, but otherwise they were stable.
@@ShaunHensley - If the engine is operating at reduced thrust then the decision has already been made by the pilots that the engine is in a safe condition. If it wasn’t safe then they’d shut it down.
It should be an non issue, they’ve practiced it literally hundreds(if not thousands) of times. Their radio transmissions exude confidence, which is exactly what you want in a pilot.
This has to be one of the best ATC video I've seen. It's got it all, pilot saying thanks dude, waypoint WAZUP and controllers and pilots sounding cool as cucumbers during a multiple emergency situation
I think that was the chillest ATC communication I have ever heard: those pilot's & ATC controllers were so relaxed lol saying "adios" and "thanks dude" haha love aviation! goes to show how safe it is.
what? I dont understand the response to my comment? I never mentioned TSA? I never mentioned security either: Also as an avgeek, I find flying relaxing, & honestly have never had a problem with TSA. @@Belchmaster41
@@Belchmaster41 The fact that people complain about the queues just show how safe things are -- nobody even thinks about the safety if they're not in the aviation industry themselves. (and amateurs of course)
I used to work at PHX and I’d say pretty much everyone who works there is on the ball and there’s training and refresher training regularly. Nice to see such a calm smooth flow of everyone involved
On a completely unrelated note, later that day some AA maintenance techs were jumped in the parking lot by multiple people wearing pilot and flight attendant uniforms.
Jeez I have the upmost respect and admiration for controllers. Their ability to coordinate on the ground and direct aircraft in such short amounts of time is absolutely astounding. To the fine people in Arizona and the rest of the U.S. I hope you know you are the back bone of this industry.
Wow, what a day at Phoenix!! Great example of professionalism and how the system works when people do everything right. This should be a training tool for all levels involved in this incident.
For the benefit of those without easy access to runway lengths, RW 8 is almost 1,200 feet longer than RW 7L, the next longest runway. Bringing an aircraft without operable flaps in would typically be done on the longest runway, but when the Flight Crew requests another runway you don’t second guess them!
For a flap OR slat failure, the approach speed is roughly 25 knots faster than normal for any given weight. With both slats AND flaps failed, it's 60 knots above vref on approach, and +50 over the numbers.
The professionalism of these Control Tower Operators is off the charts, the way they collaborate shows how well they coordinate with all parties while doing their approach calculations, keeping other traffic safe away and above the damaged aircraft while in the background someone coordinated for the fire crews to head to the runway. Kudos to them and the knowledgeable pilots who remained calm and on point through their respective emergencies.
@@alex2143 For some reason, this reminds me of my first EMS trainer. He used to talk about the ABCs of hazmat (for EMS personnel) : Arm chair, Binoculars, and Case of Beer.
Outstanding professionalism by all involved. Both flight crews, all controllers, the fire captain, all working together seamlessly and diligently. I really wish the general public could see more of these stories and how they are resolved, instead of just getting splashy news headlines about drunk pilots, sleepy controllers, etc. This IS the norm, and the USA's exceptional (commercial) aviation safety record for the better part of the last two decades reflects that.
First let me say this was a real example of teamwork and calm thinking by everyone involved. Secondly, although I trust and believe most other pilots would probably do just as great a job, I will always choose American Airlines because of my love for them and the constant professionalism displayed.
Yeah super awesome job on all sides for this one from both aircraft , ATC, and Fire Command !! Calm and professional and perfect example of good CRM from both crews and the surrounding resources available !! 😊😊
Just checked out of curiosity because the blurb at the end said the A319 (N762US) was still on the ground at Phoenix on Dec 3rd. Looks like they got it repaired and back in service on the 5th.
You know American's maintenance teams are having a bad day when they have more inflight emergencies at one airport than the fire crews can accommodate...
It’s amazing how well it works when controllers and pilots are actually language proficient. This helped with the Inclusion of Equity of outcome, between Diverse flights. Each consisting of Diverse Equal members stuffed into an all-Inclusive tube. All they needed was mastery of communication skills; in the English language. Skills matter. No matter who’s on the plane.
American to american it's really easy for them to communicate in plain english compared to the rest of the world. It also avoids the unnecessary assumed urgency of panpan or mayday. Use those words if you have a serious problem and need to break in/interrupt on frequency, otherwise just tell ATC what's going on. In situations where communication are degraded or any confusion is possible you'd use the applicable magic words.
@@mobius7089 You have made this remarkably complicated. It need not be. A simple declaration of emergency or emergency aircraft works wonderfully 100% of the time. How and when it is said adds context. Simple.
Wait i dont understand. So tbe plan had flap failure and called emergency fan them inspect it and slaped the hood and said all good? Took off and went on with it after a couple of minutes? How does that work?
The fuel is useful for a number of reasons. The first is to have an understanding of the duration the plane has left in the air. This can help ATC determine the how vital it is to clear other aircraft out of the way both in the air and on the ground. There have been aircraft that lost ability to communicate during an emergency, so knowing the duration they can stay in the air is useful in case an initial approach and landing is not made, or if they have the ability to reach another airport if necessary. Also it can be useful Information to relay to crash fire rescue if a fire was to develop on the ground. In the cockpit we read fuel most quickly in terms of pounds remaining. We use weight instead of volume in gallons as fuel can expand and contract in the wide variety of temperatures experienced through the flight, but the weight remains constant. The time that a given amount of fuel will allow a plane to fly can change for a variety of reasons, such as airplane weight, altitude, speed, inoperative systems or equipment, etc. You can compare it to how far a quarter tank of gas could get you in stop and go city traffic vs on cruise control on the highway.
I'm a center controller, we ask for souls onboard and fuel remaining in time because it allows Search And Rescue to calculate a search area if the aircraft goes missing. They do this by taking the fuel remaing in time, the aircraft's speed, and calculate the distance the aircraft could have traveled in one direction from its current location, you can then take that line of travel and swing the outer point around to form a circle, that's your search area. Souls onboard is for rescue/recovery operations.
I wonder what the record is for the number of simultaneous emergency aircraft trying to land at an airport. It was probably one of those poor visibility scenarios that contribute to low-fuel emergency declarations.
KDFW has had 3 simultaneous or overlapping inbound emergencies on several occasions. The ARFF fleet can cover 4 at once and meet FAR 139 req. Seven runways, no waiting!
Would the planes be able to hear each other on frequency? I know one was on departure and one was on approach which is separate but if they were together could they talk to each other at lower altitudes?
First time I ever heard "Thanks dude" in an ATC communication 😂 and waypoint WAZUP 😅
😂😂👍
😂
Pilots are getting younger.............. :)
I'll take that over "bruh" anyday.
It might be always hot here in Phoenix, but you can't say we're not cool.
> Two mechanical emergencies incoming
*Wild medevac appears*
Noone had to get their coffee that morning
A wild Pokémon has appeared 😂
A wild Pokémon has appeared 😂
is the medivac an evolved eevee?
This is a great example of how resilient the system can be. So much going on, yet everyone stayed calm and worked the problems successfully.
You seem surprised. Why?
@RLTtizME Not surprised at all. Simply pointing out that this is great example of how the ATC system works under unusual stress. Don't get to see this type of scenario often.
@@Factory400 Yeah…you’re surprised. It is obvious.
@@RLTtizME I'm sure you are fun at parties.
@@Factory400that guy likes to stir the pot
This entire sequence is oozing with deep professionalism and efficiency all the way around. Great job to all involved.
Where’s the diversity? Who wants yet another boring competent huwite male flying the plane? Something needs to change!
“Adios” is not professional
It's 2024 everyone knows what adios means people talk differently than they did in 1970.
these men and women both in the tower and flying the jets deserve our utmost respect for keeping the public safe in the air and on the ground Oh yea and the brave men and women of fire command thank you all
👍
I wonder >>> why do pilots need to change frequency numbers (after landing) to coordinate further steps with Fire Command?
@@Belchmaster41 they didnt - tower was just ensuring they were both on the same freq. - you can be monitoring multiple freqs at once but can only transmit on one.
@@Belchmaster41in general there are a lot of people in the tower monitoring a lot of things so you need to change to talk to the person monitoring your area/activity
And because the video omits all the other traffic - can you imagine how busy ATC was clearing out everyone else into holding patterns in order to give these two planes priority? Phoenix is a really busy airport!. And the pilot of AA2006 has a sense of humor. He knew there was another ongoing emergency and when he heard that there was also a Medevac flight, he said something like "Interesting day!" but he said it with somewhat of a smile as in "Murphy's law in action!
"Everybody is having a great day today" made me chuckle lol
WAZUP has to be the coolest waypoint name ever!!
EPKK has waypoint OFFUK
Pease International Tradeport (KPSM) has an RNAV approach with the fixes ITAWT, ITAWA, PUDYE, TTATT, IDEED: aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2312/00678R16.PDF
@@brylozketrzyn "I want to report a plane being down just short of OFFUK" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So many more out there that are better and funnier.
Airline pilots aren't paid to whistle Dixie and sit around... we get paid for times like these. TH-cam is full of "pilot error" content, but very rarely show examples of the countless times, every day, pilots make decisions and perform actions that either prevent an emergency altogether or turn a potentially serious emergency into a non-event through training and experience. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for comment 🙂
I mean 90% if the time you're just sitting and playing on your ipad. Anybody can taxi to and from the gate and hit autopilot 💀
@@brybag6938Ignorant comment
Yea I’d be salty too if I failed to be the thing I’m hating on . Welp
@@ljthirtyfiver who you talking to?
5:15 the "thanks dude" got me. even with everything going on he's still keeping it cool
I was holding it together until 1038 got routed to WAZUP. That got a good laugh, and I got some sideeye from my coworkers.
You can tell 2006 is a UNITED STATES military aviatior (the FINEST in the world)
I really like the emergency management on these two incidents. The atc knew that the first emergency aircraft could stay airborne for some time. The flaps failure certainly will mean a higher landing speed, but otherwise they were stable.
I'd be curious what the minimum for alternate was for 2006 - 2hrs seems plenty to hold but curious where the alt is.
Both aircraft can hold with no urgency to land. This removes the time pressure. The fire commander seems to be the only person in a rush.
Yeah, I was like oooohhh, triage! And the Medevac thrown in to make it interesting, since they’re obviously time sensitive
@@EdOeunaI would think oil pressure can lead to an engine fire😂
@@ShaunHensley - If the engine is operating at reduced thrust then the decision has already been made by the pilots that the engine is in a safe condition. If it wasn’t safe then they’d shut it down.
Wow. Fantastic handling of the situation by all involved (both AA crews, ATC, ARFF and the Medevac crew).
These pilots make it sound like just another day at the office. Great job by ATC also.
It quite literally is.
This crap is practiced all the time during simulator training and checkrides.
Not that big a deal.
It should be an non issue, they’ve practiced it literally hundreds(if not thousands) of times. Their radio transmissions exude confidence, which is exactly what you want in a pilot.
Everybody was just so nice and polite and professional. I would never say that there should be emergencies more often, but this was really great.
This has to be one of the best ATC video I've seen. It's got it all, pilot saying thanks dude, waypoint WAZUP and controllers and pilots sounding cool as cucumbers during a multiple emergency situation
Amazing Professionalism, 3 urgent demands and nobody sounds stressed such great control. Great job
I think that was the chillest ATC communication I have ever heard: those pilot's & ATC controllers were so relaxed lol saying "adios" and "thanks dude" haha love aviation! goes to show how safe it is.
not really >>> customers are stuck in-line just to go through Security after checking in (and getting their luggage on the conveyor belt)
what? I dont understand the response to my comment? I never mentioned TSA? I never mentioned security either: Also as an avgeek, I find flying relaxing, & honestly have never had a problem with TSA. @@Belchmaster41
@@Belchmaster41 The fact that people complain about the queues just show how safe things are -- nobody even thinks about the safety if they're not in the aviation industry themselves. (and amateurs of course)
wazuuuup
like the pilot from American 2006 said "great day for everybody "🤣🤣 my dude was the three C's calm cool and collected.
I used to work at PHX and I’d say pretty much everyone who works there is on the ball and there’s training and refresher training regularly. Nice to see such a calm smooth flow of everyone involved
On a completely unrelated note, later that day some AA maintenance techs were jumped in the parking lot by multiple people wearing pilot and flight attendant uniforms.
We’ve got an oil pressure issue, we need to get on the ground straightaway! Request a 100 mile downwind to run the checklist.
The calmness with which everyone proceeds is increadible... and reassuring.
Seems like everyone involved were polite and very professional. Nice job!
(and thanks for the video You can see ATC!)
Thanks for watching 🙂
Phoenix FD is one of the most professional fire departments in the US, and the tower crew managed this complex emergency extremely well. Kudos to all.
and that is exactly how it should be done, pilots and ATC all working together. Well done to all
Jeez I have the upmost respect and admiration for controllers. Their ability to coordinate on the ground and direct aircraft in such short amounts of time is absolutely astounding. To the fine people in Arizona and the rest of the U.S. I hope you know you are the back bone of this industry.
AAl2006 pilot was a freaking stud throughout this whole ordeal.
Wow, what a day at Phoenix!! Great example of professionalism and how the system works when people do everything right. This should be a training tool for all levels involved in this incident.
Dude jm honestly impressed that they can even understand each other sometimes
Great job putting this all together for us, You Can See ATC!
Thanks 👍😊
For the benefit of those without easy access to runway lengths, RW 8 is almost 1,200 feet longer than RW 7L, the next longest runway. Bringing an aircraft without operable flaps in would typically be done on the longest runway, but when the Flight Crew requests another runway you don’t second guess them!
For a flap OR slat failure, the approach speed is roughly 25 knots faster than normal for any given weight. With both slats AND flaps failed, it's 60 knots above vref on approach, and +50 over the numbers.
Thanks dude. As a Californian, I appreciate this. I believe dude is one of the most versatile words in existence.
The professionalism of these Control Tower Operators is off the charts, the way they collaborate shows how well they coordinate with all parties while doing their approach calculations, keeping other traffic safe away and above the damaged aircraft while in the background someone coordinated for the fire crews to head to the runway. Kudos to them and the knowledgeable pilots who remained calm and on point through their respective emergencies.
I’m so used to watching videos of bad pilots and/or ATC that this was refreshing to see. Everyone was more than competent and professional.
Impressive teamwork. I'd be willing to bet even the guy who makes the coffee was on the ball.
👍
Gotta be careful when handling hazmat
@@alex2143 For some reason, this reminds me of my first EMS trainer. He used to talk about the ABCs of hazmat (for EMS personnel) : Arm chair, Binoculars, and Case of Beer.
Such professionalism by everyone…..calm, courtesy, concise….well done.
That's how it's done! Super competent and respectful on all sides ❤
That job being an ATC has got to be some of the most stressful days ever.
The amount of chill amongst all parties involved is incredible.
Outstanding professionalism by all involved. Both flight crews, all controllers, the fire captain, all working together seamlessly and diligently. I really wish the general public could see more of these stories and how they are resolved, instead of just getting splashy news headlines about drunk pilots, sleepy controllers, etc. This IS the norm, and the USA's exceptional (commercial) aviation safety record for the better part of the last two decades reflects that.
First let me say this was a real example of teamwork and calm thinking by everyone involved. Secondly, although I trust and believe most other pilots would probably do just as great a job, I will always choose American Airlines because of my love for them and the constant professionalism displayed.
I swear, either as pilots or as ATC, it sounds & seems like watching blind jugglers juggling flaming swords! Serious congratulations to all of you!♥👍♥
This was like ballet! Absolutely beautiful job all around.
Great job ATC and pilots. Very professional. 2 Emergencies and 1 MEDAVAC
The ATC have such a tough job and they make it sound easy!
Fantastic job and parts of both ATC and the pilot crew.
Excellent and professional on everyone’s part! 1038 should identify as emergency aircraft on their radio communications consistently.
Yeah super awesome job on all sides for this one from both aircraft , ATC, and Fire Command !! Calm and professional and perfect example of good CRM from both crews and the surrounding resources available !! 😊😊
WAZAP! man that takes me back.
Would have been hilarious if all the pilots around came back with whatzzzzuppp!
I’m an older pilot who just started back flying GA aircraft, but will say ATC comms have always been ultra impressive and professional!
A lot of these comms were sloppy and non-standard.
@@llaughridge your mom is sloppy and non-standard.
Wow! Wow! That is crazy for ATC having to deal with 2 ALL at the same time😮
not to mention: a Medevac incident as well
Just checked out of curiosity because the blurb at the end said the A319 (N762US) was still on the ground at Phoenix on Dec 3rd. Looks like they got it repaired and back in service on the 5th.
Thank you 👍
are you from the future?! 🤣
@@mahu1982 I realized that too after I posted... lol. I'm guessing that they anticipate it will be ready for flights on the 5th.
Fantastic work, that was certainly one hectic day at KPHX
Hats off to this brilliant demonstration of professionalism and teamwork! Cool heads do prevail.
Great job to ATC and both pilots. Great confidence and a high level of professionalism.
Well done to the flight crews, ATC and fire and rescue during a rather busy time.
Pure professionalism all the way.
Outstanding job by all involved, wow!
extremely efficient and polite
👍
I remember some time ago two American Planes had emergencies at the same time at DFW.
Great job by ATC and pilots on both aircraft very professional and cooperative 👏🏽
Mad respect for all parties. Logistics on this one were crazy!
Really good graphics. Nice one!
You know American's maintenance teams are having a bad day when they have more inflight emergencies at one airport than the fire crews can accommodate...
Great CRM everybody, good situational awareness. KUDOS
It’s amazing how well it works when controllers and pilots are actually language proficient.
This helped with the Inclusion of Equity of outcome, between Diverse flights. Each consisting of Diverse Equal members stuffed into an all-Inclusive tube.
All they needed was mastery of communication skills; in the English language. Skills matter. No matter who’s on the plane.
Everyone was so polite and professional, I thought they were in Canada.
Its always interesting to hear the difference in American pilots “declaring an emergency’ in comparison to the rest of the world
Yes
We are special 😊
That really throws you off...doesn't it.
American to american it's really easy for them to communicate in plain english compared to the rest of the world. It also avoids the unnecessary assumed urgency of panpan or mayday. Use those words if you have a serious problem and need to break in/interrupt on frequency, otherwise just tell ATC what's going on. In situations where communication are degraded or any confusion is possible you'd use the applicable magic words.
@@mobius7089 You have made this remarkably complicated. It need not be. A simple declaration of emergency or emergency aircraft works wonderfully 100% of the time. How and when it is said adds context. Simple.
AA pilots are being trained to use ICAO even in the US. Guess it hasn’t gotten to all of them.
These pilots and controllers are awesome.
Typo...you've got AA 2009 in the video roll description but great coverage as usual!
Thanks dude
2006 sounds like he thought he was gonna be the coolest kid in town, only to be left in the dust by engine failure and a medevac.
It's pretty cool, a safe landing for both planes. Slainte ❤️
Fire command sound like he's in halo and all the blast doors are compromised lmao
They had these two plus a medivac. Great Job from that ground crew, busy day
Very professional controllers
And that's how ALL airports should work issues out!!! Thank you Phoenix and American, true pros!!!!
Sounds to me like AA needs to improve there maintenance.
I've long thought that the standard request should be for souls, endurance, fuel quantity in weight
I wonder whats up with waypoint WAZUP?
2006 pilot seemed like the coolest guy.
Wait i dont understand. So tbe plan had flap failure and called emergency fan them inspect it and slaped the hood and said all good? Took off and went on with it after a couple of minutes? How does that work?
Why does ATC ask for fuel? They want the time as answered by 2006 or the want the amount as answered by 1038? Both makes sense in a different way.
The fuel is useful for a number of reasons. The first is to have an understanding of the duration the plane has left in the air. This can help ATC determine the how vital it is to clear other aircraft out of the way both in the air and on the ground. There have been aircraft that lost ability to communicate during an emergency, so knowing the duration they can stay in the air is useful in case an initial approach and landing is not made, or if they have the ability to reach another airport if necessary. Also it can be useful Information to relay to crash fire rescue if a fire was to develop on the ground.
In the cockpit we read fuel most quickly in terms of pounds remaining. We use weight instead of volume in gallons as fuel can expand and contract in the wide variety of temperatures experienced through the flight, but the weight remains constant. The time that a given amount of fuel will allow a plane to fly can change for a variety of reasons, such as airplane weight, altitude, speed, inoperative systems or equipment, etc. You can compare it to how far a quarter tank of gas could get you in stop and go city traffic vs on cruise control on the highway.
Also info to the fire crew on how long in case of a fire they have to plan on. That's my guess.
I'm a center controller, we ask for souls onboard and fuel remaining in time because it allows Search And Rescue to calculate a search area if the aircraft goes missing. They do this by taking the fuel remaing in time, the aircraft's speed, and calculate the distance the aircraft could have traveled in one direction from its current location, you can then take that line of travel and swing the outer point around to form a circle, that's your search area. Souls onboard is for rescue/recovery operations.
The controller mispronounces WAZUP. It‘S WAZZZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP.😂
Oil pressure? When Kramer hears about this, the shit's going to hit the fan.
Good job!
Nice work
good work
Is it really that much of a hassle for flight Crew to switch landing runway midflight?
Blancolirio needs to investigate his company's maintenance. Go on Yuan.
Juan
I wonder what the record is for the number of simultaneous emergency aircraft trying to land at an airport. It was probably one of those poor visibility scenarios that contribute to low-fuel emergency declarations.
KDFW has had 3 simultaneous or overlapping inbound emergencies on several occasions. The ARFF fleet can cover 4 at once and meet FAR 139 req. Seven runways, no waiting!
@@fbroom42JFK also had a triple emergency once
Talk about teamwork. 😮
I have a question: why would pilots not use the mayday or panpan call in these situation? This could help triage the aircrafts
So how was your morning?
Why is a simple flaps malfunction not a pan?
Would the planes be able to hear each other on frequency? I know one was on departure and one was on approach which is separate but if they were together could they talk to each other at lower altitudes?
Tough day at the office.
Everything looks good right meow.
very nice attitude .
God I love your work.
American maintenance take the day off or something?