The Bagnall Bar - What, Why & How???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2022
- A brief overview of what the Bagnall Bar is, when I use it and how I tie on the snood ready for fishing.
Links to products used:
Bagnall Bar - christchurchanglingcentre.co....
Beast Hooks - christchurchanglingcentre.co....
Circle Hooks - christchurchanglingcentre.co....
Cascade Swivels - christchurchanglingcentre.co....
Maxima Line - christchurchanglingcentre.co....
IMPS - christchurchanglingcentre.co.... - กีฬา
Thanks Tom I bought some Bagnall bars a few weeks ago to catch Rays. Finally got to use them last night. Literally the first night I used them I caught a big Thornback Ray target species ✅. I was able to get a nice big cast and the rig made it feel really Natural. 💪🏻 🎣
Amazing result mate. Thanks for sharing 😁😁
I'm still going and I could have honestly watched the Stand by Me, Dirty Dancing and Rambo films in the amount of time it has taken me this evening to watch your videos (once again in chronological order)!
That said, I think you're ever humble in where the Bagnall Bar came from ... hat's off to you, again, Sir! 💚
Stand by me and Rambo, fine, but Dirty Dancing? Really? 🤣
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 that was one for all the lovers out there! 🤪
🤣🤣
cheers mate defo gonna give it a try 🎣
Hope it catches you a few fish 🤞🏻
Many thanks Tom for the excellent tutorial.
My pleasure Brian, thanks for watching.
Nice one mate, simple easy to understand video 👍🏻
Thanks mate. Simple is my middle name.
Great video again 👍👍
Thanks Tony.
Hi Tom, just had to watch this after meeting you the other night. Great video. Geoff - Tronix 👍🏻
Hi matey. Great meeting you, hopefully catch up soon. Thanks for watching 😁
The bagnell bar rig is my go to rig for nearly all my fishing now. Easy to use and cast a very long way!!!
That's great news 😁 I'm exactly the same, just so easy to use.
Great vid . Nice rig . I will try this on the I.O.W
Thanks. Let me know how you get on with it.
amazing bit of kit unbelievable how it is all neat and tidy are they expensive grate video
Not at all, click on the link in the description for all the products.
Nice one Tom
Thanks mate
Excellent - thanks Tom. It works really well here in NZ too !! I also find most of my fish hooked on the circle hook, so I add a 4mm bead between the circle hook & J hook to protect the knot. Prefer Tronixpro cascade swivels (stronger) to the breakaway ones, and also find a gemini splashdown is better than an imp when using large baits as I often do here (eg: whole pilchard for Snapper). My biggest problem is finding springs that fit the stainless steel bar (I use 1.3mm diameter) - so instead I use a 20mm length of 2mm diameter silicon tubing - it does the same job as the spring. Finally, I make a version where the bar is replaced by 100lbs Mono so I can use a SRT spring - but the principle is the same and it casts just as well. Will be in the UK in August :-)
Glad you're liking them mate. It's great to see them being used all around the world.
try using the springs from plastic cigarette lighters , bigger bore and quite springy
Use a similar sort of thing myself, just tied from 80lb mono rather than a metal rod. Gemini SRT springs fit over it with a powergum stopknot, to tension between the cascade and the hook that way👍
These started life as mono "bars" 10 years or so ago, then I experimented with the metal bar and never looked back. The mono bars are of course easier for most of us to tie.
Another gem👍
Unique!
This “Rig” is purely a casting rig, it’s all about being able to cast at distance, especially extreme distance. Your bit is to decide which rig/snood you attache to attract your desired species .
Other rigs that’s it .
This one , it’s up to you how you develop it.
It is very clever and It’s probably not correct to call it a rig 😳… it’s more than that
A casting device??
Thanks Martin, high praise.
So I've had some success taking your advice on urfe rigs (tyvm btw) so now I think I'll try the bigger brother and see how we go I'm off to Brighton tomorrow,plaice are the target bar be the rigs.lol nice video as usual keep it up cherrs
Thanks Jim. Best of luck at Brighton, would love to see a photo or two for my catch reports... 😀
Hi Tom, I've just started to use a Bagnall Bar and this was a great video, but I was wondering what the other swivel was for at the top of the bar and why do you use a cascade swivel.
Thinking about storage Tom. Would you suggest storing the short snoods on winders, then attaching the long trace and bar when setting up?
I've tried a few things over the years, clip on snoods etc, but to be honest, I just have a selection of complete bars ready to go now. I never like to have to tie a knot when fishing.
Hi love the video and so simple to follow, quick question what is the diameter of the stainless steel bar that you use?
1mm or 1.2mm Thanks
Hi mate, I use 1mm for my bars.
Know on the bagnall rig can i make the different lengths up & put a clip onto mono so i can just take off & clip different lengths on or have got to tie on each change over on different lengths please👍p .s brill video 👏🐟
You can do clip on snoods no probs. Same bar, different snoods.
What do you think, just putting this out there, about a slightly longer bar, say perhaps 30cm, for the Dongle rig lovers? Maybe a longer one would lose it's rigidity therefore rendering it unhelpful? I was playing around with the standard bar and just wondered.
I prefer to keep them short, maximise aerodynamics and casting potential. Having said that, I'm sure a couple of extra inches probably wouldn't make a massive difference. Worth a try. I do use dongles on the standard length bar though.
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 Gotcha, thought that might be the case. I'll experiment with shorter dongles and smaller circle hooks. Thanks for the reply Tom.
Tom can you explain the main advantage of the Bagnall bar over a Portsmouth loop rig ?
On face value the both present the bait close behind the lead but the Portsmouth loop also keeps the slack hook length more streamlined so you would imagine it would be more aerodynamic.
Hi mate. Quite simple really. The Portsmouth Loop is a 2 hook rig, the bar is a single, thus will cast further. The principle is the shorter the rig the further it'll cast. When I was growing up the "big hitters" used to use a tiny little pulley rig, just a few inches long. This thing cast like a bullet, but only offered a very short snood with the hook right on the lead. The bar gives you the same casting potential as this, but with a longer snood away from the lead.
Hope that makes sense.
Yes it does make sense Tom.
So a single up and over rig may give the same benefit .
Back in the day those big hitters ... "crack off Colin" 😂
Again, the bar will out cast an up and over, unless you tie that very short too, in which case you'll still have a short snood.
Perfect ! ... I've followed your guide and have made a couple up to give them a try.
Thanks .. great video as always .
@revenger1 no worries mate. Best of luck when you get out with them.
Could you use mini fast links to attach hook length to the cascade swivel??
You'd be better off having a small clip on the end of the whole snood where it attaches to the bar, rather than at the cascade swivel.
Love your videos, but please when you say what line your using can you say it in pounds as well .and are all your hook lengths made from fluorocarbon to keep it ridged or do you use mono as hook length say in slack tides as it could let the bait move about more ? I thought about braid as hooklenght with pop up bead in neap tides as it possibly would have more movement in very little tide ! Many thanks rick
No. Lol!
You should never buy line based on breaking strain, only ever diameter. Breaking strains mean very little and are mostly made up, whereas diameters are fact and have meaning. Let's use the line I'm using in this video as an example, the 0.50 maxima chameleon (which is a mono not a fluoro). Maxima call their 0.50 25lb, now if I'd said 25lb in the video someone might go out and buy something like Tubertini Gorilla for example which, if my memory serves me, has a diameter of around 0.30! Now 0.30 is nowhere near good enough for fishing for rays, hounds etc and will lead to lost fish and disappointment! Quite simply 0.30 has nowhere near the strength, abrasion resistance, durability etc of 0.50, regardless of what the company writes on the package. Always always buy your line based on diameter not breaking strain, it is the only constant. I hope this makes sense mate. So endeth the lesson 😄😉
P.s. I'm quite passionate about this subject because this country has been so poorly served by the tackle industry for so long. We only buy lines on b/s because that's what we're taught, it's frustrating to see so many people given the wrong information.
Thank you for such a clear and concise answer , honestly I takes so much sence and I wish I'd been told this years ago ! I think many others would benefit from what you have told me 👍. Thank you .
@@rickphillips5098 no worries mate. It takes a while to get your head into it, but once you do it'll make so much sense and hopefully help your fishing out no end.
Can a Grip lead be used instead of the yellow one , Not sure what make lead that is ?.
thank you
You can use whatever lead you like mate. I nearly always use a grip lead when using the bar rig for rays.
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 Thank you
Hi Tom ..how u doing .. just a quick question as to how its fishing there..I fancy a trip tonight or over the weekend and wanted to know if you are still gettin all sorts of Ray's.. cheers Sie
Hi mate. There's mostly just small eyed at the moment, the odd undulate here and there. The thornies seem to have quietened off at the moment.
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 thanks for that
Great video Tom! Have you or would you advocate using the Bar to fish for Dover Sole?
I have used them on venues where the sole are at range yes, I tend not to on venues like Southbourne though where a simple flapper will suffice as it's mostly short range work.
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 ok Tom thanks pal what length snood would you suggest for Sole? I’m in Kent so will fish somewhere like Dengemarsh for them so may give them a go! Enjoyed the video thanks mate!
@@jamesrobertson9930 I use 3ft when targeting the sole and plaice .
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 thanks for taking the time to reply Tom. Much appreciated keep up the great videos! 👌💪
@@jamesrobertson9930 no probs mate. Glad you're enjoying the videos.
Hi Tom - How do you set it up for a wishbone rig?
Do you put the two hooks in the Imp or use something like an angel clip? If using the Imp for both hooks do you ever have issues with them not releasing?
Hi Tony. Just use the cascade swivel as the central part of the wishbone.
Imps are fine for both hooks.
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 Cool -Thanks alot for the reply..
No worries mate.
I’ve been using these bagnall bars in Poole bay and 9/10 come in either an a s shape or a c shape. Anyone know why this is happening ?
Either snagging or heavy weed will do that. You can easily bend them back.
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 excellent thank you for that. Tight lines.
I hope you did mine while making these!! 😴😆😆
Yours are getting there... I ran out of cascades!!! Delivery arrived this morning though, so I can crack on as soon as I have a spare 10 mins. October ok? 🤣🤣
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 some tackle shop.. 😆😆 awesome stuff thanks buddy 👍
Is a size 2 hook too big for plaice?
Not at all matey, that's a good size. I often go to a size 1 when targetting better plaice with bigger worm baits.
@@christchurchanglingcentre5428 thank you , I have just purchased a couple of your bagnall bars , I will be hoping to hit cogdan within the coming weeks 😁
@@ryanhopkinson-4686 best of luck when you go.