THE SECRET OF THE TRAIL ARM | HOW TO SHALLOW THE SHAFT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- How do you shallow the shaft in the downswing?
Shallowing the shaft in the downswing seems to be the most popular thing to learn to do if you follow online golf instruction. Most notably made "famous" by George Gankas (coach to PGA Tour player, Matt Wolff), he describes his "Gucci" move as the secret to shallowing the shaft. I'd tell you it doesn't quite work like that.
The trail arm plays an enormously important role in the golf swing. It is responsible for the hand path and the shaft pitch through the backswing, transition and downswing. Learning to externally rotate your trail shoulder is a very key move, but very few people discuss this area in any great detail, leaving most amateur golfers to struggle unnecessarily!
Learn how the trail arm should move and how the position of the trail elbow influences the steepness of the shaft throughout the swing. There are two drills included in the video to help you learn the motion of the trail arm and train it to help your ball striking and direction become more consistent.
Give it a try, and let me know how you get on in the comments section.
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“Losing The Arm Wrestling Match” ... Absolutely Brilliant ... That coupled with your “Flying Wedge” video have helped my golf game in terms of consistent ball striking like no other TH-cam Golf guru...Thanks man 🍻
Rob, congrats on the best, most detailed, yet comprehensible golf instructions out there. I'm a fan of understanding the concepts and then practicing them to learn the proper technique of the swing.
Rob, you have the ability to break the complex down into simple terms that the student can grasp. The drills that you provide are excellent. I’m glad you’re there! Excellent video.
Rob, I find your instruction to be some of the clearest and most helpful I have seen. The one arm drill is fantastic. It is really helping me feel where my trail elbow should be during the down swing. Thanks.
Nope, not too complicated at all. Clear and concise, thanks.
Probably the best explanation of the trail arm I have seen here on TH-cam!
Rob, I'm a self confessed slow learner, and it's taken me months and months to unlearn years of doing things incorrectly. I'm still very much work in progress, but I wanted to let you know your videos are fir the first time giving me hope. For perhaps the first time I feel comfortable standing on the tee, feeling like I have some idea of what I should be doing, and if it goes wrong, then why.
I particularly enjoyed working on this drill after getting on top of staying centred and even adding the loose belt around the waste and tail arm, to learn the function of eliminating my tendency to let the arm move away from my right side.
These days, playing is filled with hope and some degree certainty that brings much joy. So thank you for your clear and precise information.
This was incredibly helpful. Thanks for the technique and the drills! Credit card is so much more helpful than the tee or headcover in the arm pit.
Wow! That was the most helpful downswing video that I have ever seen. I no longer hit shanks. Thank you so much, Rob.
Thanks for explanation on the trail elbow. To me, it is the hardest move of the stack and tilt method, and your comparison of the losing an arm wrestling match with the elbow. With this imagery, I understand that I actually have to work to get the position right. If I let it float (relax), it goes behind my body - a move I have been making for 50+ years!
Game changer for me...after seeing this and trying it ...everything changed for the better, thank you Rob Cheney.
Hi Rob from So. California,
I just found you recently and I must say you are by far the best teacher of golf on TH-cam. I understand your videos what you are saying and look forward to applying them to my swing.
I hope to be a volunteer teacher of junior golf in retirement and learning your way of communicating will help me out greatly. Thank-you very much for your time and effort, Kevin
Outstanding video Rob and the best explanation of how the trail arm functions in the swing. I spent a few days with Andy and Mike in Palm Springs years ago and I love the system. I am just starting to take a deep dive into your work and it is helping me every day with students of my own. Todd Brenkman, PGA Utah
If I may ask, where do you teach Todd?
I found this video to be very valuable. I have always positioned my right elbow to the side of my chest. After watching this video I moved my elbow to the front of my chest and kept it there throughout the swing. I was able to hit the ball longer and straighter. Sometimes, in an attempt to gain more distance, the back of my left hand would get bent forward resulting in pulls and hooks. But when I was able to keep the back of the left hand straight with the left arm I had very good results. I plan to continue to work on Rob's tips on the trail arm. Jim Ward, Tampa, Fl
Thank you so much Rob. This is probably the most valuable piece of golf swing techniques pack. Period.
This is the best description of the trail arm I have seen, love the 1st drill and a must do in my belief ! Thanks Rob !!!
Had a lesson from sam quirke The Drift golf club today on this subject 👍👍
HiRob this is brilliant for me as I cannot seem to conquer this more and to hear you describe as difficult is a help in it’s self. I’ve stopped lifting my trail elbow but finding it difficult to bring down close to the body. Your very detailed explanation with help considerably. I turned to S&T a couple of months ago and now want to develop after the initial surge.
Great stuff. I don't find your content complicated. You explain everything clearly. In this case, presumably keeping the trail arm close to the rib cage will help with hitting the ball out of the middle of the club face as well. Something I struggle with tbh.
This is a great instruction. Went out and used it today and had one of my better rounds.
One of your best. Your attention to the “tough” details is outstanding and extremely helpful. This is your gift. Very professorial. You answered questions I didn’t know I had. Thank you
It's funny how I started off not liking your videos and I said some very abusive things but now I watch all of your videos because I've learned a little bit of patience finally. Thank you sir
Best explanation yet on the trail arm...especially the reference to arm wrestling.
Rob, your instruction is amazing. And just as much how it is fitting with where we are in our individual training. Will be getting you another set of videos for your review and comments soon!
Rob... ran across your page about 2 weeks ago. WHER'VE YOU BEEN THE LAST 23 YEARS??!!! started implementing your clear & concise instructions into my game... can't tell you how good it's been! how i posted a 7 handi for 10years without you, i've no idea; but now.. with all this armament... scratch may actually be attainable! thanks bruv 💪🏾
I have been seriously working on my swing for 2 years and no one ever shared this information or process. Thank you so much. I am going to give this a try.
I’m so happy you released this video. All of last week I was relentlessly searching “trail elbow downswing” so this is ideal!
I love the analysis of how the body works in the golf swing and the never ending search for the magic bullet that slays the mishits while keeping the speed we all want. The miracle is the incredible difference in the result of what looks like the same thing from a top pro and a 10 handicapper. The top pros look like ordinary people but I think they are really aliens from another planet.
Excellent instruction. Thank you for taking the time to produce it!
Great job on explaining this important move, I had been searching for the clarity and you did it. Thanks again. Keep up the good work :)
Rob Cheny,EXCELLENT Golf Teacher,Congratulations
I'm glad that you include the needed detail. I have heard the term "connected" many times but nobody every really said what it meant. Makes great sense with you explanation. I also really like the drills. Thanks.
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Not only did your teaching and brilliant instruction give me the blue print of who i am, it also put a " tag " or tags for the building and breaking down of the Ferrari...which is the golf swing
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Brilliant video Rob👏🏻 a joy and great learning to watch your intructions every weekend🏌️🏌️
Thanks Rob for another great video, love the drills, it helps tremendously.
Love it. Another great VDO. Funny enough I always wonder about my right elbow. This VDO addresses my curiosity. Moreover it gives me check point and drill. Thank you Rob.
Always so much to be gained from your instruction. Thanks Rob for all of the effort and time you put into these videos.
Excellent explanation and demo. Thank you for this!
Great information. Important part of the swing really well explained. Off to practice now. Thanks Rob.
An excellent,excellent description of right arm position. Appreciate and enjoy your instruction. Be good.
what a great golf tips and golf drills, thanks.
The best on TH-cam!!! Great technical video.
Another great video..I have noticed that I allow my trail arm to separate from my side. Awesome drills. Thanks for you hard work. The hat looks great.
This is such a key fundamental and the way its explained is asolutely Brilliant , gets etched and serves as a reminder each time one swings ,, thanks a lot Rob .
This video really helped me bring my swing together on the range today. Thanks for the help 👍
Exceptional delivery of relevant information! Well done!
Rob, very good explanation on the most critical and complex part of the swing.
Great video Rob. Very important part of the swing.
Funny how I always come back to Robs awesome video lessons after playing. It is good to get grounded after making swing changes to assess you are making progress. Rob always explains concepts well and shows you the position. The results are up to you making and seeing the positions while striking the ball. I routinely use my iPhone (Swing Profile app) and my Skytrak to see the motion and results when practicing.
Keep up the great content Rob! Well done
So well explained! Thank you sir!
Rob, I watched this video recently and it produced a real 'light bulb' moment. Concentrating more on my trail arm has had positive impact on my swing. Many thanks Steve
Excellent video lesson! Thanks happy to subscribe 🇨🇦
As always, great content. Thank you for drilling down into the details! Your explanations provides clarity that's of upmost importance in my quest to retool my swing to S&T. Will definitely include the one arm drill in my practice sessions. Thanks for sharing and your time. :)
@@golftecasia WOW & DOUBLE WOW !!! For my money, this is the best tip / drill EVER. Spent about an hour plus working on the drills and the last 20 or so minutes hitting "Almostgolf" golf balls. To say it improve my ball striking would be an understatement. Over the winter I have been improving but things were just a little off. This video was definitely the key for me. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
Right up my alley, Rob. Trail arm is very understated. I need to learn to lose the arm wrestling match.
Hardly ever seen this trail arm teaching before. I really like the feeling of club control that it gives in the swing as I instinctively disliked moving the trail arm away from the body, which I thought was the correct method. Thanks for all the detail you include in your videos.
I'm really enjoying your videos! You are an excellent instructor!
Mr Cheney, I am an 18 handicap and tried this today and it really improved my ball striking. Thank you
Rob I needed you as my golf instructor years ago. Your instruction is very simplified and your tips have provided me with excellent results out on the course thereby making the game a hell of a lot more enjoyable by far.
Rob, I'm a 7 handicap and have been frustrated for years when I see videos of my swing and can't keep my right elbow pressed against my side.Thanks for addressing this issue in detail and offering some drills to correct this flaw!
Fantastic video and very clear explanations! Many Thanks 😊
Enjoy watching your videos. I like the detail. You are the reason I joined GOLFTEC. Thank you!
Absolutely brilliant job Rob of explaining a critical swing key….mastering this lesson is undoubtedly the cornerstone to building a compact and repeatable swing….thanks much!!!!
Thank you for sharing. I will remember this on the Range and on the Course.
Thanks Rob. Brilliant detail, very clearly presented. Will definitely work on this part of my swing. Very best, Richard.
this is a fantastic lesson. its not something us amateurs even think about. i thank you for always pointing out the "outside the box" thinking towards teaching a good swing. i try to pass on your great tips to my friends. this tip might be one of your best. thank you as always
Phenomenal video. Thank you for the detail. I realized that with my prior conventional golf swing, the right elbow comes off the side quite significantly and I have a hard time returning to in front of my right hip on the downswing. With your teaching and S&T, it stays against my torso and I don’t have to time getting my right elbow back in front of me. This improves my probability of maintaining the flying wedge. You’re exactly right about the lack of right side tilt in the downswing. This leads to the casting/right arm extending off the body just to make contact with the ball. You’re an exceptional instructor.
Even more great gems and info in this vid.
Thanks Rob. Been struggling with trail arm for years. This is clearly a great fix.
The hip position and movement during the Driver swing. Helped me extremely. Especially hitting up on the ball
Thanks for explaining that. I watch and watch to see how that particular sequencing is supposed to happen and this is the first time I've seen it explained. Explains why my clubs get "stuck" behind me which creates all kinds of problems with the rest of my swing.
Thanks again.
Greg
Superb instruction. The clarity and content in it is extremely helpful. I was drawn to your videos on a search for foot flare and trail wrist bend. That led to binge watching others and going outside and doing the drills. Being less flexible and admittedly experimenting too much, the structure you recommend will help me. Might even try stack and tilt next. Thanks.
I started using your one arm drill every 2-3 holes on the tee box before I hit my driver. Had my best round of golf driving the ball all year last week. Thank you.
Just joined your channel, I struggle with this exact issue. Can't wait to get to the range. I'm a 13 but I know there's tons of room for improvement. Thank you for this!!!!
Rob, I just wanted to say that I really enjoy your videos! I just wish that I would have seen these years ago. My dad taught my a Hogan style swing and it has suited me very well. I took lessons later and the pga pro taught me a swing that was very vertical. I had so much success with what my dad taught me and then I was lost. I bought the stack and tilt book and figured why not. There was so much criticism on the method. I picked it up quick but didn’t study the finer details and didn’t get it until recently after reading it again and watching your videos. Please keep putting out content even repeats.
Thanks Rob wonderful stuff
Really good video Rob. Explanation and drills.
@@golftecasia yep itching to get out on the course - too much rain at the moment :(
A great lesson, thank you. Originally learned this from Ben Hogan’s book but over time I may tend to fall away from these important fundamentals and it’s reflected in poor play. Love the practice tips to develop the feel.
Superb instruction and drill. I shall be using my Live View camera system and practice net to begin my swing transformation.
Excellent explanation of the trail arm function
Thank you Rob, I keep coming back to this video and it really helps. Being a fairly new golfer do you have a video where you would recommend how your body should lean over the ball, the proper place for the hands to be at impact (close or far away from the body) and with the angle of the club-the proper angle from hands to the impact area of the club? Sorry alot to ask.
this might be the best golf tip video I've ever seen.
Great teaching and video
Great video. Been working on this for a while. It amazes me that my teachers over the years have never majored on this. They've sometimes talked about "skimming the stone" without demonstrating how. I try to have two linked swing thoughts...maintain right arm "structure" and right arm under left through impact. Anyhow, plenty of Spurs and European Super League jokes on the interweb but I've refrained from sending you one 😁. Good weekend!
Great stuff Rob
Coiuld you comment on how your posture affects your ability to operate an effective trail arm movement
Your instruction and input is always spot on
Thanks
Very clear, concise, well communicated instruction on this channel. As good, if not better than most. You do an outstanding job. Much appreciated, well demonstrated instruction.
Sounds like a great piece of advice, will have to try to perhaps improve consistency
Man that was so informative... if someone is complaining about the detail of your videos, they might not be a candidate for golf.
@@golftecasia Yes Sir thank you for all your videos. God Bless
Thank you,
You make me remind arm motion .
That was a fantastic lesson, thank you 🙏
Rob, I am a current GolfTec student, and while I love my coach, I wish I could work with you! Your videos are the absolute best and there hasn’t been one that I haven’t learned something further and applied to my practice. Thank you so much! Where I struggle is taking what I am doing in the bay or the range, to the course. My “old” swing takes over, or perhaps I don’t yet trust on the course what I do in practice. Just a thought …. But keep up the great work as you’ve helped me more than I could ever express! Thanks again!
. Great video ... clear ... concise .... and understandable ... Is it absolutely bad to separate the upper right arm/tricep from the body at the top of the swing in order to get a little more elevation of the club?
Nice hats! Tried that one arm swing. Took me a few tries to get it & it took cocking the wrists to get that right.
Great content. Subscribed
Thank you. This is extremely helpful. 👍
Spot on big guy going to be using the swing hard stop fast at practise tomorrow
This was so helpful Rob. Thanks !
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Your explanation may be too complex for some folks, but people with a working brain are benefiting immensely. Keep up the fantastic work
Clear and concise!
Hi Rob I prefer the Hogan drill you did using the Belt to keep your right elbow close 👌
Great video, have found this helpful recently. A challenge I have found with it though is allowing the connected feeling of the upper right arm to open appropriately on the follow-through. It seems easy when focusing on keeping the elbow against the right side, to swing it right around the body on the follow-through and pull the shot left. Is thinking about straightening the arms at impact out to right field the best solution? Cheers, Pete