Analyzing Evil: Tywin Lannister

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    Welcome everyone and welcome to the seventieth episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Tywin Lannister. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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  • @TheVileEye
    @TheVileEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +371

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    • @sean87
      @sean87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Vouch

    • @EMG_Iman
      @EMG_Iman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @The Vile Eye -1:31-- video mark. “Schemes and Plots are the same things”- Tyrion Lannister

    • @chriswonder2747
      @chriswonder2747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you do The Orphan someday?

    • @jonathanwyatt4672
      @jonathanwyatt4672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For something to compliment Tywin Lannister, why not do Analyzing Evil videos on Joffrey Baratheon and Ramsay Bolton, who are more vicious and sadistic than Tywin.

    • @lorenpingle5350
      @lorenpingle5350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m not sure if you’ll read this, but if you do I would love to see you analyze Clay Puppington from “Moral Orel.”

  • @destructor3152
    @destructor3152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7513

    The man is literally introduced in the show by skinning a stag the symbol of house Baratheon . It tells you exactly who he is.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +551

      He definitely does get dirty if needed. There was a scene they deleted where he was fishing and then gutting the fish. Deleted probably coz it's too much foreshadowing.

    • @TheKingsPride
      @TheKingsPride 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      @@nunyabiznes33 lol I don’t think it counts as foreshadowing at that point. It’s just a spoiler.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@TheKingsPride LOL what? How is THAT a spoiler? how?

    • @TheKingsPride
      @TheKingsPride 2 ปีที่แล้ว +357

      @@Gadget-Walkmen because Tywin has Roose Bolton gut Catelyn Stark and her lineage, and Catelyn came from the river lands, whose symbol is a fish. Given the broad symbology of the show, it’s pretty overt

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      @@TheKingsPride most people would NOT have known that at all as remembering the Symbols, banners, and signs of their houses.
      Most people would have completely forget ren or not even cared that Kathryn came from the “river lands” at all for you to even THINK that simply cutting a fish means it’s automatically foreshadowing at all.
      You just seem to big fan of the series to think that it comes anywhere CLOSE to being a “spoiler” at all. It’s not. FAR from it in anyway as most people would even notice Tywin cutting a fish as anything significant. Just as the same as most people didn’t know that Tywin gutting the Stag was meant to be symbolic of anything either, ALOT of people would not have know that or figured that out they simply don’t care about details like that at all.

  • @ordomachinum4016
    @ordomachinum4016 ปีที่แล้ว +6019

    I remember reading a quote “Tywin was lucky enough to die before the writing did”

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 ปีที่แล้ว +279

      The writing died with Tywin

    • @premiumheadpats4150
      @premiumheadpats4150 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      I don't even want to think about what would have happened with him. 🤦🏿‍♀️

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Okay.

    • @borisflores3450
      @borisflores3450 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      @@premiumheadpats4150 "I never cared about legace and i love Tyrion"

    • @SmithereensTV
      @SmithereensTV ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Cersei you always reminded me so much of your mother sometimes that I tried hard to hide my sorrow behind my steel and today of all days on my deathbed I write to you as my son. My first born😎 son has emerged

  • @JacobC479
    @JacobC479 ปีที่แล้ว +2401

    As great as the writing is, Charles Dance absolutely *killed it* with this role and deserves just as much if not more acknowledgement. Played to perfection, he’s a great actor. His work on “The Crown” was amazing also.

    • @joffreybaratheon4904
      @joffreybaratheon4904 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Charles Dance has his bad movie roles (Ali G Indahouse)

    • @niemanickurwa
      @niemanickurwa ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@joffreybaratheon4904 I think he was pretty funny in Ali G :D

    • @QuickQuips
      @QuickQuips ปีที่แล้ว +29

      He even does a cameo in Chernobyl during the trial. And was a solid villain in Last Action Hero.

    • @floofypoofybread
      @floofypoofybread ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@joffreybaratheon4904 I think that he chose Ali G because he just likes working with SBH?

    • @lindseyormsbee
      @lindseyormsbee ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He was able to make Last Action Hero a pretty solid film beside Arnold.

  • @fazormcghee7936
    @fazormcghee7936 ปีที่แล้ว +2809

    I always found it beautifully ironic how tywin despises Tyrion yet Tyrion has all the qualities as his son that tywin wishes Jamie had. Mentally, Tyrion was a spitting image of Tywin. Just as brilliant and cunning. Only difference being Tyrion wasn't heartless and knew how to enjoy life despite all the reasons he had to hate everything and everybody.

    • @_Dovar_
      @_Dovar_ ปีที่แล้ว +214

      Tywin hated Tyrion because he caused the death of Joanna Lannister, the only woman or the only person he ever loved - and because Tyrion was a midget, which was commonly seen as a disgrace to a family, a punishment sent by the Seven gods, and Tywin couldn't do anything about it.

    • @mischevious
      @mischevious ปีที่แล้ว +192

      Consider that had Tyrion been born normal and his mother survived he likely would have turned out much more like Tywin.
      It’s largely circumstances and unique life experience that makes us who we are.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_Dovar_ And because Tyrion is the embodiment of the things he doesn't like about himself.
      -Tyrion is a brillant mind with an inferiority complex who cavorts with whores and despite his pretenses about not caring, he actually cares about how people see him, being willing to get revenge over any slight. This description is also applied to Tywin as well, as behind his armor, lies an insecure man obsessed with never being mocked and laughed at.

    • @jizou1581
      @jizou1581 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@mischevious i doubt he’d be as smart as tyrion came out

    • @mischevious
      @mischevious ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@jizou1581 As George portrayed the Tywin and Tyrion characters in the book or as Charles Dance and Peter Dinklage portrayed those characters in the show?
      I haven’t read the books but I have heard that the character and story line were changed quite a lot for the show. That in the books Tyrion was far more angry, lecherous and debauched. Also that the sword blow to his face did remove his nose, that from that point forward he was too hideous to look at. So the book Tyrion certainly wouldn’t have become Hand to Joffrey or Dany. It was Peter Dinklage’s popular portrayal of Tyrion that brought all that about.

  • @ritanman9578
    @ritanman9578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6107

    Tywin Lannister is probably the only character that wasn't ruined in the show and is probably one of the most interesting and brilliantly written villain in the show and Game of Thrones book series and lore as a whole

    • @anatoldenevers237
      @anatoldenevers237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +657

      Tywin got lucky. He died before the show got bad. Most characters who stuck around after Season 4 got it in some way

    • @JonskuElf
      @JonskuElf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      ​@@anatoldenevers237 Tywin was lucky that he died before source material ran out

    • @ab4n1sg64
      @ab4n1sg64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      He wasn't a villain.

    • @NPC_-mf4dw
      @NPC_-mf4dw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +236

      The only one, really?
      What about Ned Stark, was he ruined?
      Robb Stark?
      Catlyn?
      You can safely say no character who died early was ruined, the writers had no opportunity to do so - because there were still the books as guideline.
      As soon as the book material dried out, it all went to shit.

    • @anatoldenevers237
      @anatoldenevers237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@ab4n1sg64 Yes he was. He specifically ordered Gregor Clegane, one of the most evil people in Westeros, to go into the Riverlands and r@pe, murder and pillage. Then there's what he did to Tyrion and Tysha when they were 13 and 12 years old respectively.

  • @itsbreadbin
    @itsbreadbin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3454

    Tywin's death was perfect, like, actual perfection. He was a man who was obsessed with pride and nobility, and gets killed in humiliation while he's on the toilet. He also gets killed by the son he hated more than anyone else in the world. It's perfect writing, it's poetic.

    • @MrJordwalk
      @MrJordwalk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +243

      Tyrion was also responsible for looking after the plumbing in Casterly Rock earlier in his life.

    • @jeffreyhill1011
      @jeffreyhill1011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      And Tyrion by far was closet to Tywin. In the books Tyrion is more villainous than the loveable character Dinklage can't help but be.

    • @NebulousJ
      @NebulousJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@jeffreyhill1011 I'm only caught up through book 3 but Tyrion is still incredibly likable.

    • @jeffreyhill1011
      @jeffreyhill1011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@NebulousJ he gets darker.

    • @_formlessoedon8989
      @_formlessoedon8989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Killed with a crossbow too. Something of an uncouth or craven weapon.

  • @gianalfredo
    @gianalfredo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1788

    I love how symbolic it was for Tywin to die on “the throne”.

    • @spencerfoote6977
      @spencerfoote6977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fact that Tywin hated whores only to f a whore out of spite against his son is extremely petty

    • @radotic1
      @radotic1 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hahah, well put.

    • @deathbywords
      @deathbywords ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Awesome thought!

    • @NoLimit_Niko
      @NoLimit_Niko ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ironic*

    • @irarelyupload6930
      @irarelyupload6930 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NoLimit_Niko Bionic**

  • @k1l7r0
    @k1l7r0 ปีที่แล้ว +686

    I always thought the coldest thing Tywin ever did was when one of his lesser houses thought of rebellion; he didn’t respond with a letter or a sword, but rather a musician to play The Rains of Castemere

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Except House Stark. They got the letter, the sword and the musician playing Rains of Castamere. The full package.

    • @louwinters508
      @louwinters508 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      See I didn't know that they actually played the song to houses as a threat. Makes sense now how Catlyns face changed to a look of horror when she heard it.

    • @andylymbo
      @andylymbo ปีที่แล้ว +38

      ​@@louwinters508it also would be the song of the house she's at war with inside the halls of someone whom is supposed to be marrying into her family too.

    • @louwinters508
      @louwinters508 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@andylymbo yes that's what I thought. That she just put two and two together. Not that the song also in general used as a threat.

  • @charlesrodden4019
    @charlesrodden4019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1670

    The one thing you missed was Jaime's revelation about Tysha in the books. Tysha was never a whore, and Tywin concocted that lie just because she was small folk, and convinced Jaime to lie to his brother "for his own good". This action is not only fucking horrible, but it's only when Jaime confesses it to Tyrion that he makes the decision to kill Tywin.

    • @dmitritelvanni4068
      @dmitritelvanni4068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      Yeah... I'm definitely a tywin apologist, but I won't touch book tywin. He was far more evil in the books. In the show he really was just doing as he had to. Mostly to clean up after his failures of children lol. But yeah in the books... I liked he and aryas dynamic a lot more in the books, but the terror is just so much more potent.

    • @1162hunter
      @1162hunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@dmitritelvanni4068 Tyrion confessed in the show that Tywin did that to Tysha also. Also him and Arya didn’t talk to each other once in the books. In the books it was roose Bolton that she briefly served at harrenhal

    • @dmitritelvanni4068
      @dmitritelvanni4068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@1162hunter shit you're right. It's been a couple years. The last book was still far away when I read the series.

    • @1162hunter
      @1162hunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@dmitritelvanni4068 yeah that was one thing about the show that I liked more than the books was Tywin and aryas interactions

    • @dmitritelvanni4068
      @dmitritelvanni4068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@1162hunter shit honestly all the early tywin scenes were worth watching it for me. In his later days tho I definitely wasn't so enamored. He only turned colder and harder the more powerful he and his became.

  • @MyPisceanNature
    @MyPisceanNature 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3284

    While Tywin certainly isn't a good person, I feel he is less evil than Littlefinger. Tywin wants power, but he wants to use power effectively, which means running the kingdom well, so order is maintained. Littlefinger, to borrow a quote, would burn the whole thing down, if he could be king of the ashes. It is a difference, I feel, between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil.

    • @williamerickson520
      @williamerickson520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Agreed.

    • @jackbloomer1334
      @jackbloomer1334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +254

      exactly he doesnt do evil for the sake of it because it achieves nothing but is willing to do what is necessary for stability and power

    • @valtersplume3726
      @valtersplume3726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +314

      That's Neutral Evil, actually. It is Ramsay who is Chaotic Evil.

    • @likepocketsjingling
      @likepocketsjingling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      @@valtersplume3726 I agree. Littlefinger at least has a goal in mind, aside from the pleasure of torture and killing in itself.

    • @bradhorowitz2765
      @bradhorowitz2765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Hmm…certainly an interesting take. I feel that untill we know what little finger is seeking, we can’t for sure say he’s more evil than Tywin. Both men I do feel WOULD burn the world if it meant their goals were secure. We know both side with evil if it means they wins. Both men use manipulation to get their way. The difference is that little finger does NOT destroy his own house (yet). Tywin, for all of his pride, used violence and emotional abuse to coerce his children. This in turn caused all to develop long term mental problems that slowly ate away their strengths and their loyalty to him. In fact the throne is in chaos thanks to Tywin’s failure to be a decent human being to his family.

  • @codyschwarz5155
    @codyschwarz5155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2053

    Arguably one of the most intimidating and threatening characters to ever grace television.
    Tywin never killed anyone, picked up a sword or even struck anyone, but when he spoke, we listened.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      well not on screen anyway.

    • @FabalociousDee
      @FabalociousDee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Actually, he was a pretty decent warrior, even as an old man.

    • @codyschwarz5155
      @codyschwarz5155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Gadget-Walkmen or on page? Lol

    • @lucks4fools978
      @lucks4fools978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      He fought in the War of the Nine-Penny Kings

    • @dubvuchyea502
      @dubvuchyea502 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Do you not remember him leading the charge during battle of the blackwater

  • @kmstirpitz4285
    @kmstirpitz4285 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    One of his largest flaws was by far his cold-heartness as while effective, didn't at all do any wonders in helping his children, his heirs and his legacy. When he dies, his family falls into disarray. Compare that to Ned for example, as while some wrongly call him a fool, his kindness and warm hearted nature lives through the legacy of his children who fight in his memory each and every day, and the entirely of the North as a whole lives through his memory and will never forget him. It is for that his family won the Game Of Thrones and secured Westerosi history and the Lannisters don't.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      100% true, VERY well said!

    • @mikeypauly8371
      @mikeypauly8371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      good take

    • @EmyN
      @EmyN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nice

    • @lpallad1
      @lpallad1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Yeah. And then Ned Stark wasn't stupid. He was just inexperienced in intrigue and plotting. There's a difference between being stupid and not knowing things because you never had the chance to learn them. And another flaw of Tywin is precisely the fact that he always underestimated the cruelty of his actions and did not think about the long-term consequences of what he did.

    • @gandalftheghetto1172
      @gandalftheghetto1172 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ned wasn't stupid by any stretch but he was certainly a fool.

  • @tylers6611
    @tylers6611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +675

    Game of thrones is the one show where most of the main characters deserve an “Analyzing Evil”

    • @iconoclasttheunholy4540
      @iconoclasttheunholy4540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Wish We Could Joffrey Baratheon - Lannister, Cersei , Ramsey & Walder , Even the Night King Or The Mountain. Just Do A Series On G.O.T Characters.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL true that!

    • @MrThebeast115
      @MrThebeast115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@iconoclasttheunholy4540 all these characters would have a 1 hour video too!

    • @chuck2469
      @chuck2469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ned ?

    • @MrThebeast115
      @MrThebeast115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chuck2469 Ned did execute a guy for no reason

  • @bendarcy194
    @bendarcy194 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I found Tywins death scene really fitting. I always love when characters who’s power comes from their ability to manipulate and scheme are faced with a situation they can’t possibly talk their way out of.

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He actually could've talked his way out. But he was foolish enough to refer to Shae as a wh0re when Tyrion told him not to.

    • @azunkor422
      @azunkor422 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      In the books tyrion didn't mention Shae but his first wife when Tywin called her a whore which she wasn't he snapped and shot him

    • @dannyhuskerjay
      @dannyhuskerjay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@azunkor422book wise Tywin was a dead man. Tyrion went up there to murder Tywin and get his answer .

  • @lucass430
    @lucass430 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Charles Dance should portray every authoritative figure in every movie/show. It's unbelievable how imposing and threatening he can be on the screen, which is perfectly encapsulated in his portrayal of Tywin. As of Tywin, it's truly ironic how Tyrion has all the qualities he wishes Jaime had. In the end, his irrational and petty hatred of Tyrion proved to be his fatal flaw.

    • @theoryfoot5770
      @theoryfoot5770 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look out for Jeremy Irons in Margin Call and say that again

    • @kekero540
      @kekero540 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He would be an amazing imperial Moff

    • @chloeleau
      @chloeleau ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kekero540 yoooo i was thinking the exact same thing

    • @dermiesemisanthrop2111
      @dermiesemisanthrop2111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      His portrayal of Emperor Emhyr Var Emreis in Witcher 3 is also great

    • @Tomcat_Centauri
      @Tomcat_Centauri 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dermiesemisanthrop2111 I was about to say, Charles Dance carries such a charismatic and imposing aura that it translates even to his voice alone. I can't think of anyone else who would've been a more fitting VA for Emperor Emhyr var Emreis. Between the stellar voice acting, the amazing character design, and the build-up from the previous Games, it made me wish to see a lot more of Emhyr in the Game. He was perfect.

  • @kailawes175
    @kailawes175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2390

    An hour long episode of Analyzing Evil? Feels like Christmas morning.

    • @SippingVino
      @SippingVino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It’s like April fools on Opposite Day

    • @Leonisdarko
      @Leonisdarko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I truly enjoy this series and channel, to get an hour’s worth is truly a boon

    • @serotoninsyndrome
      @serotoninsyndrome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Feels like Christmas morning, except I'm actually enjoying myself.

    • @damianstarks3338
      @damianstarks3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You read my mind.

    • @giovannigiorgio831
      @giovannigiorgio831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Tywin is absolutely worthy of an hour long analysis.

  • @salixbaby
    @salixbaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    The fact that Tywin worked as the cupbearer of King Aegon in his childhood really gives a new perspective on his interactions with Arya on the show

  • @henrylafferty4814
    @henrylafferty4814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1258

    Tywin’s take that Tyrion was caused by the gods spite sent to punish him may not be metaphorically too off the mark.
    Jamie and Tyrion are like the two halves of Tywin split. Jamie is the the glory, the warrior, the mane and fang. While Tyrion is the cool intelligence. The stalking beast in the tall grass. Beyond skilled in statecraft, control, and people.
    Jamie could never rule Casterly Rock, he was the image of what Tywin wanted but without the substance.
    Tyrion the reverse. It goes without saying he would rule well and profitably. Where his respect could be questioned, Tyrion was no stranger to using his scarred image to scare those into submission. The guiding hand of Tywin could have made the Dwarfs shadow loom larger than any glinting suit of armor. Together the brothers would have been unstoppable, and Tywin’s dreams likely would have been realized or closer to it. Perhaps a more glorious death than on the shitter.
    But it was because of his own mirthless and loveless life that he could not. His pride, and perhaps the first true emotional wound of his life. He couldn’t cope nor see his son as a part of him. He wouldn’t, and yet Tyrion was the part of him that let him live such a hard life.
    The Gods sent a test which he failed

    • @notme-ji5uo
      @notme-ji5uo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      great take

    • @leonrobinson8180
      @leonrobinson8180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      Excellent take. But I would add that Cersei represented his ego. The lion's pride.

    • @ventricality6997
      @ventricality6997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I love this take

    • @talynhastime9343
      @talynhastime9343 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Bro, this is profound.

    • @henrylafferty4814
      @henrylafferty4814 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@leonrobinson8180 that makes sense

  • @HISTORYGRL
    @HISTORYGRL ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I also saw Tywin as severely and acutely pragmatic more than Ramsey Snow evil .. He was like the male version of Olenna. They both lived a long time saw houses rise and fall , seen the good and bad with all the rulers of their time . They understand what had to be done to survive . They knew one wrong move would cost them everything and they made that one wrong move in the end . Still my some of my favorite characters

    • @HO-vt5pk
      @HO-vt5pk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      bolton* ma boi got legitimatized

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nah, Olenna wasn't as cutthroat as Tywin. Unless you don't count the books.

    • @Yo-pz1em
      @Yo-pz1em 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Olenna was the bomb diggity. Probably one of my favorite characters in the show.
      The bish was so upfront and didn’t take shit from anyone.
      Even her death was badass, “Tell that bitch Cersei I killed your bratty bitch son”. 😊. Ok I’ll die a painless death now :)

  • @qjames0077
    @qjames0077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    "The man that must say he is king is no king at all."
    Tywin Lannister is perhaps the most influential man in Westeros that never was king

    • @thomasrevere1728
      @thomasrevere1728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He did rule the seven kingdoms for a short time.

    • @qjames0077
      @qjames0077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@thomasrevere1728 as Hand, never as King

    • @simonriley4131
      @simonriley4131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Bloodraven?

    • @qjames0077
      @qjames0077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@simonriley4131 you're not wrong haha

    • @thomasrevere1728
      @thomasrevere1728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@qjames0077 He made the decisions. He ran the kingdoms. I never said he was king.

  • @MisterTutor2010
    @MisterTutor2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    Question: What was Tywin like as a child?
    Answer: Shorter :)

    • @LordWyatt
      @LordWyatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Considering he bit his Grandfather as a toddler…I think it’s safe to assume Tywin came out of the womb a badass.

    • @pimpchez
      @pimpchez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    Man it's such a heartbreak re-watching this show and already knowing how absolutely dog shit the ending was. Such a great story.

    • @arthurcurry2003
      @arthurcurry2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ffs move on with your life

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@franciscorivas9337 Season 5 was amazing (besides the underwhelming dorne plot) and 6 was FANTASTIC as well. don't be hating on everything that came after season 4 as there was PLENTY of gold there as well!

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@franciscorivas9337 nah strongly disagree there as there was WAY MORE than just “some good ideas” as a lot of the execution for the stories in the later two seasons was done fantastically well. Not everything was perfect but some things truly was amazing later on.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@franciscorivas9337 LOL What? Season 6 was incredible and fantastic as I said as a whole, and FAR better than season 5. Season 7 is where things overtly got nonsensical! And we all know how season 8.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@franciscorivas9337 LOL just no, Season 6 is FAR from the "downfall" at all. That's nonsense as season 6 had alot of amazing things going for it with the battle of the Bs and the White Walker threat rising.

  • @OuterRimPride
    @OuterRimPride ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The best part was that Charles Dance was that he'd always wholeheartedly defend Tywin's actions in interviews off the set. The role fit like a glove.

  • @duffboy502
    @duffboy502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    Tywin is such a grat character, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that "Rains of Castamere" would have been composed because of his actions, the man is such a legend!

    • @RuSosan
      @RuSosan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes, yes, he was such a force. Truly. Such a force.

    • @kkandsims4612
      @kkandsims4612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Dude Charles dance to made tywin a straight up boss like he is tywin

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If I remember correctly, he had it commissioned and would occasionally send bards to his vassals that are falling out of line to sing it as a not-so-subtle reminder.

    • @elibonsatvproduction3629
      @elibonsatvproduction3629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tywin was not evil but he was just following law of the nature of people .

    • @Miuranger1
      @Miuranger1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow what a legend getting whooped by a 15 year old boy

  • @SankyEON
    @SankyEON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1432

    After watching this video I realized that Tywin's scenes with Arya were desperately needed, as without them his villain status would've been unquestionable. Seeing Tywin act with kindness and empathy towards a small girl, commending her for her intelligence and figuring out that she is high born humanizes him a way the books didn't manage to get close to. They are the equivalent of Jamie's feverish speech to Brienne.

    • @zeynaviegas5043
      @zeynaviegas5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      i like to think this is one of the instances where the show had the chance to do something the author only later wished they had done

    • @chichiro8625
      @chichiro8625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      I actually disagree with Tywin being kind to Arya.
      Like he said, he enjoyed her but i dont think he had any emotions more than that towards her
      Why do you think a man, who many people wanted to see death at the time, would give a low born one of his meals without eating it and then pressures her into eating it?
      He was scared that hid food has poison in it and was willing to kill the little girl to find out

    • @chasejordan9295
      @chasejordan9295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@zeynaviegas5043 Yea same, there is no fuckin way D&D threw that in, they are terrible, as soon as george was gone it started going downhill. Simply because they had less and less source material

    • @chasejordan9295
      @chasejordan9295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@chichiro8625 Lmfao. If that was the case he'd have a food taster at hand at all times. Dont be a fool. It's clearly there to humanize him a bit

    • @GustavoCardoso95
      @GustavoCardoso95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@chichiro8625 he enjoyed her company, and was indeed a little kind to her

  • @mal1cen1derland63
    @mal1cen1derland63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    A lot of people don't realize this because a lot just watched the show. Johanna was Tywin's cousin. If you think of it that way Cercie Tyrion and Jamie were to an extent also a product of incest too so it could explain why by the time Jamie and Cercie had children Joffrey was destined to be flawed even in real history a lot of madness is traced back to incest.

    • @LadyAsteria58
      @LadyAsteria58 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well its more higher chances of mental illness than madness.
      Tyrion being a dwarf was ironically Tywin's fault for marrying his cousin since that increases the chances.

    • @mal1cen1derland63
      @mal1cen1derland63 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LadyAsteria58 Yeah it is Tywins fault but in a medieval type world they wouldn't understand that. Some people have had some mad theories online that Tyrion is the Son of Joanna and the mad king because he did fancy her for a while when she was at court, until Tywin sent her back to Casterly Rock because of it. This is mentioned in the books so Who knows.

    • @tamiwatchesstuff
      @tamiwatchesstuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But see, in the medieval times up until I'd say the 20th century, marrying your cousin in a high profile family like the Lannisters did not have the stain taboo incest the way it does now. I honestly wish people understood this when they watch period piece movies/TV shows, and not apply 'modern morality' to these stories.

    • @LadyAsteria58
      @LadyAsteria58 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tamiwatchesstuff We know that, its just a ironic fact.

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tamiwatchesstuff Everyone understands that...

  • @toonbat
    @toonbat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    It is both maddening and delightful that we never got a point-of-view chapter for Tywin in the Song of Ice and Fire books. Just like with real-life historical figures, we are forced to make our opinion of him based solely on his actions and his words, without the benefit of being privy to his thoughts, the way we are for other characters in the books.

  • @SNIProductions.
    @SNIProductions. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +595

    Tywin Lannister is that guy that read "The Prince" in high school and took it to another level

    • @aaronburdon221
      @aaronburdon221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      The Prince and the Art of War. The prince when it came to ruling and The art of war when he was on the warpath because you can see clear references in his tactics and overall strategy. Basically, if your enemy will destroy themselves, then let them.

    • @Undone545
      @Undone545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      He read "The Prince" and then wrote "The King"

    • @SNIProductions.
      @SNIProductions. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Undone545 ok, you win

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Undone545 that’s essentially what Tywin was. He truly was the “Crownless King”. It became VERY clear the more we see Tywin that he was the one ruling after Westeros after all these years, not Robert, Joffrey, or Tommen. He really was the one keeping the whole kingdom in line and he wasn’t even close to being king like AT ALL but that didn’t matter to him.
      As he said, “you really think a crown gives you power?” And to an extent, crowns clearly give power based on what they represent and mean to the people but Tywin has proven that the individual is VASTLY more important, influential, and more POWERFUL than a symbol of “power”.

    • @korawitbuttramee618
      @korawitbuttramee618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I think Tywin is a deconstruction of Machiavellian schemer. A leader is to be loved or feared, but never, ever, be hated. Guess what? Tywin was universally hated by probably everyone outside Westerland, and the moment he kicked the bucket, they visited his funeral just to look at his rotting corpse.

  • @Buddhistsocialist
    @Buddhistsocialist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +681

    What Tywin did to tysha is one of the most despicable acts in the books and I can’t believe that it was glossed over in the show. It completely changes Tyrion as a person and influences how Jaime sees cersi.

    • @alexthelizardking
      @alexthelizardking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It was in violation of the rite of first night which was banned hundreds of years prior.

    • @HATEPR00F
      @HATEPR00F 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      How'd it influence how Jaime sees Cersei?

    • @jimsty5222
      @jimsty5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What does it have to do with his relationship to Cersei? I'm just curious is all.

    • @TheNecromorphkiller
      @TheNecromorphkiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@HATEPR00F im obvi not this person and dont know the arguments for this particularly but i can imagine its something like it made him see her as "more than just a whore" or something, alternatively made him think the secret was even more important because tyrion had just been fucking like, a lady, whereas jaime fucks his sister, so imagine what tywin would do? probably nothing, but jaime doesnt see it that way, in all likelihood

    • @chasejordan9295
      @chasejordan9295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Compared to shit he did in the past, it doesnt change him much lol. Yes its too his son. But he's done so much worse shit.

  • @NourArt02
    @NourArt02 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Charles Dance deserves an Oscar for his performance as Tywin Lannister

    • @fredbloggs5902
      @fredbloggs5902 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree, unfortunately Oscars are only for films.

    • @tamiwatchesstuff
      @tamiwatchesstuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. But even if Oscars were applicable to cable TV shows, who do you award the Best Actor award to? There were so many steller performances by so much of the cast for the majority of the seasons. I think the Academy would have a difficult time indeed in deciding whose performance was the best overall.

    • @NourArt02
      @NourArt02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tamiwatchesstuff I liked Pedro Pascal and Peter Dinklage too, but Charles Dance was in a league of his own, just take the "the king is tired" scene, he only spoke few words but his presence does most of the talking for him. Charles Dance was phenomenal as Tywin Lannister

  • @goth9ever
    @goth9ever ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Tywin is the perfect example of "Even monsters have standards"

    • @S.D.323
      @S.D.323 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Id say someone like Sandor clegane or Jaime lannister is a much better example of that tywin is ok with just about anything child murder child rape mass starvation violating guess right etc ok well to be fair he's probably against kinslaying and he does pay his debts

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@S.D.323 Yes, exactly. Jaime is more fitting

  • @ConnorL999
    @ConnorL999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1122

    Only a character like Tywin can justify an hour long analysing evil

    • @lisboah
      @lisboah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Voldemort probably would, as well. The books go into a lot of detail regarding his life, far more than the movies ever did.

    • @ConnorL999
      @ConnorL999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@lisboah I think with Voldermort, he's more on dimensional, great character but he's kind of the definition of evil. Whereas Tywin has a lot of depth to him.

    • @lisboah
      @lisboah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ConnorL999 Voldemort has another level of depth, but whereas Tywin's is concerning his own character, the one of Voldemort is concerning his depravity.

    • @dboymax1
      @dboymax1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      His evil is only surpassed by Darth Sidious/ Emperor Palpatine

    • @lisboah
      @lisboah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dboymax1 And Lord Vitiate from the time of the Old Republic in Star Wars.

  • @andrewsweeting3689
    @andrewsweeting3689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1299

    Tywin Lannister is one of the best antagonists ever written. A truly terrifying and powerful character.

    • @TheHighborn
      @TheHighborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I really do think, he is not an antagonist. He's just a character. The protagonist is the word. Not even the white king fits as an antagonist

    • @doctorthirteen5499
      @doctorthirteen5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@TheHighborn He's not a protagonist

    • @TheSquad4life
      @TheSquad4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHighborn from the view point of people like the states he certain is a villain . Can even say from the suggestions of the show writers for sure , he’s suppose to be seen as a villain

    • @andrewsweeting3689
      @andrewsweeting3689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@TheHighborn he's a villain from the perspective of the North, and he performs villainous acts. One could say even the northmen perform acts of villainy, though. There are no clear cut good guys in A Song if Ice and Fire

    • @professorxaviour3649
      @professorxaviour3649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why do I fear and despise Cersei more than Tywin. Tywin is a teddy bear to me. Cersei is pure evil!

  • @Namenlos-fo1ek
    @Namenlos-fo1ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Analyzing Bloodraven would be interesting.
    We dont really know where he stands, but he could be a good example of one from the side we cheer for, who does bad things to reach his goals. He is the biggest Enemy of the Blackfyre, responsible for the death of most of them.
    And there are some theories that he is responsible for almost everything that happened in the last hundred years.

    • @bandoogiemanz
      @bandoogiemanz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. All the more reason for martin to finish the damn books, smh.

  • @ashlielove6513
    @ashlielove6513 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    We will always have Tywin, for better or worse.
    The role made for Charles Dance. What a tour de force that man is. ❤️

  • @CaptainLuckyLuke
    @CaptainLuckyLuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    Charles Dances must be one of the very few men left that can say, “My father was a Boer War veteran”. I find that remarkable.

    • @maggiesmith856
      @maggiesmith856 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charles was born when his father was 70.

  • @RickyHadou
    @RickyHadou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Charles Dance absolutely killed it on the show. He was easily one of my favorite characters on the show.

    • @Alababm
      @Alababm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of?

    • @isphus
      @isphus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably also why he was chosen to voice Emhyr in Witcher 3

    • @S.D.323
      @S.D.323 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he was my second favorite but then tyrion uhh continued existing in the later seasons and now i think tywins my favorite lol

  • @hockeyking30
    @hockeyking30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    They say that oberyn martell had previously poisoned tywin with a poison called widows blood when he broken bread with oberyn and meryn trant. Widows blood literally causes you to shit yourself to death and die an embarrassing death. Thats why tywin was on the privy at the time and he wouldve died regardless of tyrions actions.

    • @soxpeewee
      @soxpeewee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol

  • @spencertherren6806
    @spencertherren6806 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you Charles Dance for bringing this epic character to life in the show. Just perfectly executed.✌️

  • @patriotspicksix.1251
    @patriotspicksix.1251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    Charles Dance brings an unmatched aurora of domineering prowess to his interpretation on the character from the literature. Waking up to see this in my feed gave me goosebumps. Thank you for another gripping & comprehensive character study of a villain who conceded an aurora of silent, yet terrifying imposition whenever he was onscreen.

    • @PointlessRhetoric
      @PointlessRhetoric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The show was extremely well casted with a few exceptions. Jamie Searcy joffrey Robert Ned the list goes on and on it was truly a beautiful representation until they f***** it all up

    • @woahblackbetty7691
      @woahblackbetty7691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      THEY HAVE MY SON

    • @derbil7251
      @derbil7251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you seen him dance in Ali G?

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@derbil7251 Charles Dance in drag was one of the funniest things I've ever seen! He's an incredible actor - a real living legend.

  • @ysgramornorris2452
    @ysgramornorris2452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    One thing that was left out was how manipulative Tywin can be. Like when he sends Tyrion to King's Landing as acting Hand of the King. Tyrion asks him why, and Tywin says "because you're my son". Tyrion has spent his entire life up to this point yearning for his father's affection and approval, and Tywin knows it. It was indeed the most efficient way to ensure his son would do the best job he could as Hand, while also ensuring his loyalty. He deprived Tyrion of affection his whole life, to the point he could use it as leverage to control him.

    • @mysticdragonwolf89
      @mysticdragonwolf89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It’s also important to point out at that time, Jaime’s fate was unknown. Until he was found, Tyrion was the only male heir.
      Tywin knew he needed to not only get his grandson in order and his daughter likewise, but he needed someone with his authority at Kingslanding. He may have hated Tyrion, but he needed his son to hold order until he arrived.
      He couldn’t ride to the capital immediately cause he needed to plan the Red Wedding.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes but ALSO believe at that moment that jaime was dead at the time so he had to place all his trust into tyrion to do the job and see him as his successor at the time.

    • @killthem9669
      @killthem9669 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I want to add that Tyrion was disgusted by his father in that moment. In the TV show it was not obvious but there is a description of his feeling in the book.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@killthem9669 really? I thought he was actually slightly glad for once.

    • @killthem9669
      @killthem9669 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Gadget-Walkmen, not even in the slightest extent, he was mad that Tywin has given up Jaime for dead. True brother.

  • @nickolausafon5458
    @nickolausafon5458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    He was wrong, at times. He could be cruel or stern. And he was merciless, if not murderous.... But he was too right about one thing.
    Wisdom not all the title or power or authority, is what makes a King. Even a mighty lord can doom themselves as a fool.

  • @17Watman
    @17Watman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m glad you pointed out the biggest problem with Tywin, how he’s treatment of Tyrion was his undoing. The one thing I took from reading the books how another big mistake Tywin made was making himself hated, not just by his son but the entire (save for the Boltons) North with his and Lord Frey’s sacrilege of violating the Guest Right. Fear can keep people in line but once you make yourself Hated, they can and will eventually rise above that fear and act on the Hate. However as long as Tywin was alive he could’ve checked any potential threat. Once he died that fear was greatly diminished.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well said, goes hand in hand with the quote, "If you cannot be both it is better to be feared than loved but avoid being hated at all costs"

  • @marcogianesello6083
    @marcogianesello6083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +942

    I think tywin's wife truly was the one exception to his otherwise cold calculating attitude toward everyone. If she were just his consort and a means to ensure the future of house lannister he would have most certainly remarried after her death, had more children, probably gotten rid of tyrion in the meantime, but he didn't. For tywin this is certainly a red herring, it seems like the only time his emotions had the better of his decision making. I believe of all the marriages in westeros, ironically, it was the cold, duty obsessed tywin that truly married his great love. I think tyrion his hatred of tyrion represents this. He "killed" her, but now that she's gone, he is a Lannister, one of few precious heirs to his name, his duty to his house compelled him to spare him, yet he loved his wife so much he wasn't able to cope with hear death in an healthy way, and blames his own son for it. If he was truly capable of being objective when it came to her as well, he would have understood that tyrion had obviously no fault, and he would have recognized and cultivated his talents to serve house Lannister, same way he did jaime and cersei, instead of relegating him in a corner of the family, antagonizing him and depriving him of any positive reinforcement or parental care. It seems fitting that his great love, turned into irrational resentment, the one thing that wasn't about duty, legacy or pragmatic opportunism, turned out to be his undoing in the end

    • @nicholaskinkaid
      @nicholaskinkaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I do not think their love was greater than Ned and Catelyn starks was (nor do I think it was worse). Both marriages were deeply committed. And both characters faced a circumstance that completely defied their traits and true nature. Tywin being pragmatic and ambitious yet showed neither of those things enough with Tyrion. And Ned being known for being honorable, loyal, and with integrity; yet allowed his reputation to be tarnished for 'infidelity' and raising 'his' bastard child with Catelyn.
      It's funny, because both characters were *immensely* different, yet they were the 2 I respected the most.

    • @sydneyw9407
      @sydneyw9407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wonder how much religion played into it. In a world where you genuinely believe the gods will punish you like Tywin thinks he's being punished, and you see a human as an embodiment of that punishment, would you be extra motivated to hate them? It's an interesting thought. As Tywins was a narcissist, I think it greatly helped his wife was also a young Lannister in the court when he was. I imagine they might have gotten the same strain of abuse in Aerys court, making it easier for Tywin to relate to her and thus...like her initially. I'm a romantic though so I hope he just found an ounce of love in his shriveled-up little soul.

    • @nicholaskinkaid
      @nicholaskinkaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@sydneyw9407 Think about it like this. Every single sliver of resentment and contempt he felt towards tyrion was 100% because of the love he felt towards tyrions mother.
      Had Tywin been his usual logical and pragmatic self, he would have utilized him differently. Even the dwarfism would not have mattered. But because of how much he loved his wife, he just could not handle tyrion logically.

    • @dragonslair951167
      @dragonslair951167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The thing is, Tywin is a hypocrite on so many levels. He claims that advancing the interests of the Lannister family is all that matters to him, but even if you disregard his refusal to remarry after his wife's death AND his horrible mistreatment of Tyrion, his general harshness and ruthlessness severely undermined the Lannisters in the end, and ultimately brought their downfall. All three of his children were constantly berated and disrespected by him, with the end result that all of them developed severe emotional problems; which, need I remind you, are generally NOT good qualities for a ruler to have. Not to mention that Tywin made little effort to prepare Cersei for court intrigue or politicking- and it showed. Because he saw women as simple pawns to be married off. Unlike, say, Olenna Tyrell or even Ned Stark, he completely failed to understand the importance of a positive relationship with one's children if one wishes to advance the interests of one's family.
      And his penchant for choosing shocking atrocities to deal with his enemies paid off sometimes, but backfired horribly other times. The treachery and cruelty of the Red Wedding crippled the Starks but didn't destroy them, and it ensured that the Northerners (And other Houses wary of being betrayed next) would never be fully loyal to the Lannisters. A rule based only on affluence, fear and violence may seem rock-solid at first, but it ensures that very few people will have your back should your money run out, or your military be crippled; in other words, everyone will abandon you when you need them most. The Starks triumphed in the end because many houses and peoples were still loyal to them even after they had practically lost everything.

    • @PrincessAries86
      @PrincessAries86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dragonslair951167 Also, Tywin berates Tyrion for sleeping with prostitutes but he himself did it. Of course you see with Shay but in the room for the hand of the king is a tunnel to the brothel which hints that he himself was sleeping around but did not want to admit it. Tywin was a lot like Tyrion and he hated the fact that his objectively smartest child was, to him, a child. He probably assumed he was a product of the mad king raping his wife, which is all the more reason he hated him.

  • @j.rivera6402
    @j.rivera6402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    “You've served as a glorified bodyguard for two kings; one a madman, the other a drunk”….dude told Jamie he wasn’t shit 🤣😂🤣

    • @JohnSmith-wh2ob
      @JohnSmith-wh2ob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      If serving as a glorified bodyguard is the sum of your ambition then GO SERVE legendary

    • @famousnobody4380
      @famousnobody4380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Factssssss 😂 him &’d Olenna Said Exactly What Was on their minds, no sugarcoating with them 👏🏾👏🏾

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@famousnobody4380 I've often thought that if Tywin and Olenna had been married when they were young, they'd have taken the Iron Throne together. What a power couple!

    • @famousnobody4380
      @famousnobody4380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@neuralmute most definitely! I have had that thought once -or- twice before 😂

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@famousnobody4380 And can you imagine what their kids would have been like?!?

  • @ajttambo
    @ajttambo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It seems obvious that Tywin was inspired by Machiavelli's The Prince

    • @annajoyce7634
      @annajoyce7634 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      machiavellianism is definitely his most dominant trait

  • @samipersun9995
    @samipersun9995 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A near perfect episode! The only blemish for me is how the show treated ‘the trigger’ for Tywin’s death, the truth about Tyrion’s wife, and in this episode it wasn’t mentioned too.

  • @thomasrevere1728
    @thomasrevere1728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Man, Charles Dance is one of the best actors I've ever seen.

  • @joaovitorlima9952
    @joaovitorlima9952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +567

    Tywin is a masterclass in constructing an antagonist. Hell, with a few tunnings here and there, you can even turn him into an anti-hero. Undoubtedly a defining character for fiction in this century

    • @wun1gee
      @wun1gee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I always sort of saw him as the closest to an anti-hero the IP ever had. He's only "evil" in the context of looking at it from the side of his enemies. Deadpool, for example, is often seen as an anti-hero and he does some really fucked up shit to people that don't deserve it. And I can judge Deadpool to the moral standards of today since he's supposed to live in a 'modern' world. You can't hold Tywin to that same moral standard. In the world he lives in, for the faction that he supported, he absolutely was a hero, making him by default the anti-hero to the faction that the IP wants us to side with.

    • @ethanragbir8311
      @ethanragbir8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@wun1gee Couldn't agree more. In the books and in the show, Tywin was my favorite character alongside Jamie. The story is almost comedically postured towards the Starks who are portrayed as the honorable, loyal, and righteous protagonists when in reality they are oath breaking liars and hypocrites who are extremely arrogant and end up getting themselves killed from the consequences of their own actions. If the story had been written from the POV of the Lannisters Tywin would have been the harsher equivalent to Robb Stark or Ned Stark.

    • @grandmastersreaction1267
      @grandmastersreaction1267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ethanragbir8311 ey, Tywin and Jamie are my favorite characters too!

    • @JTheTeach
      @JTheTeach ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was a major anti hero for most of his story, putting down the Black Fyre Rebellion and dealing with the treacherous Reins and Castemeres.

    • @Miuranger1
      @Miuranger1 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Anti heroes don't kill innocent babies and r32pe woman...do u people even read the books?

  • @jorgebersabe293
    @jorgebersabe293 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Behind Tywin's ruthlessness, penchant for excessive violence for anything he perceives a slight, lies a severely traumatized kid obsessed with never being mocked and laughed at, product of having to watch how his father Tytos, a good and kind man, but weak and eager to please, was perpetually mocked and laughed at, driving the House of Lannister to the ground.
    Not only traumatized, but also forced to grow up too fast to save his family from the brink of ruin. He couldn't give his children a childhood because he never had one.

  • @Stellarionas
    @Stellarionas ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tywin to Jaime if he was alive during Daenerys's Conquest:
    I don't care who you 've killed, you 're marrying that girl

  • @noahgilmore4837
    @noahgilmore4837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    When I told all my friends that Tywin was one of my favorite characters they thought I was crazy. Yes the man was a stone cold calculating, sneaky, hypocritical prick to his friends and his enemies, but he got shit done didn’t let anything hold him back and basically dragged his family name out of the mud singly handedly from the age of like 17 on as well as run the 7 kingdoms behind the scenes for the better part of like 30 years. He commands respect unlike fictional character I’ve ever seen…and of course you gotta love Charles Dance

    • @alexthelizardking
      @alexthelizardking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He also raped his daughter in law which benefited himself.

    • @jackstar6096
      @jackstar6096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexthelizardking You mean Tysha?

    • @likepocketsjingling
      @likepocketsjingling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think sometimes people forget that there's a difference between liking a character and liking that character as a person, which is possibly why your friends thought you were "crazy." XD I likewise think that Tywin is brilliantly written and one of the best fictional villains ever - but do I want to be in the same room as him? Hell no :P

    • @sophiejones3554
      @sophiejones3554 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s perfectly normal to like a character whose ethics are dramatically different from one’s own. What is more important is that the character is relatable to you in some way. Tywin Lannister is a character who could, from a certain point of view, be portrayed as a classical Aristotelian tragic hero. The hero who restored his House to it’s former glory, but was brought down by his flaws. It’s just that Martin doesn’t give us that perspective.

  • @jamief1263
    @jamief1263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    There is a quote from one of the books by Tywin’s sister to Jaime, after Tyrion’s death. Tyrion was always Tywin’s true son, intelligent, sound of mind and capable, Tywin just couldn’t get past Tyrion being a dwarf and being laughed at.

    • @alicevaz5474
      @alicevaz5474 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tyrion dies?

    • @jamief1263
      @jamief1263 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Error, should say Tywin’s death.

    • @milotura6828
      @milotura6828 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alicevaz5474 he ment Tywin

    • @nelonwa7754
      @nelonwa7754 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Funny enough, if tywin could put oast his own pride, he could've made Tyrion a dwarf to be feared

  • @kevnar
    @kevnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's a really good text-to-speech engine, except every sentence ends with the same inflection.

  • @melvinbagby4221
    @melvinbagby4221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Charles Dance's performance as Tywin (with the smiling) is more....realistic...in my mind, anyway. Even humorless people smile, because we're human. Not necessarily because we have any humor.

    • @soxpeewee
      @soxpeewee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I think the books are supposed to be people's imagining of Tywin not his actual nature.

  • @Herc_G.
    @Herc_G. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I love that there’s a guy named Kevan running around a world full of names like Tywin and Daenerys. I hope there’s a Ser Kyle or Ser Frank somewhere

    • @tabulldog2743
      @tabulldog2743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      You would love Harry Strickland then lmao

    • @lewistownsend8868
      @lewistownsend8868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I the books there is a Kyle Condon. And quite a few Franklyns.

    • @onizuka255
      @onizuka255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SIR Mike🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @spikegilfer1997
      @spikegilfer1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Twenty-two characters named Jon, IIRC.
      There's such an absolute trove of characters in the book that exist beneath the great houses and their fancy family names that one forgets about people who go by more... humble names.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think GRRM winked a bit hard when he included the Ser Chad / Lady Stacey / Maester Jermain love triangle storyline.

  • @lisboah
    @lisboah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    The true tragedy of Tywin is that he was born in such world that has the tendency of benefiting those that are ruthless-minded and willing to sacrifice others. Good-natured people such as his father and the Starks suffer for not having personal ambitions, or at least ambition enough to trample on others. In the meantime, individuals that betray others, even their own family, ascend both higher and faster.
    Tywin was smart enough to realize this, that in order to both survive and ensure that House Lannister prospered, he would have to have as little moral conscience as necessary and do whatever he deemed necessary to guarantee this.

    • @bbtfan4617
      @bbtfan4617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If Tywin had been born in 19th century America, he would have been a robber Baron.

    • @alexthelizardking
      @alexthelizardking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He also raped his daughter in law. I'm sure he had his reasons.

    • @chuckles3116
      @chuckles3116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      In the books it’s looking like Ned’s Good Nature will do more to keep his family alive after his death than Tywin’s scheming will have done for his. Right now Roose is surrounded on all sides by Northerners who each have independent plots to install Bran, Rickon, Jon, Sansa, or Arya as Lord of Winterfell. Meanwhile the Lannister name has all but crumbled because Tyrion fled the country, Jaime just wants to be a good Kingsguard, and book Cersei is a buffoon who recently got deposed.

    • @LeventeCzelnai
      @LeventeCzelnai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but is it realistic? i mean moral compass is not something u can just turn off. even if u "realize it" that it does not help the survival of your family. without a head injury or childhood trauma or borning this way you cannot become psychopathic.
      ... i guess you can act like it, but u ll be shit in that and u ll suffer from your conscience.

    • @lurksnitchtongue8986
      @lurksnitchtongue8986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexthelizardking What the fuck are you talking about?

  • @nataliedaniels1443
    @nataliedaniels1443 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Charles Dance was amazing.

  • @deadlyknights1119
    @deadlyknights1119 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Truly an amazing in depth analysis on Tywin, never thought that he was the most important person from just the show, we don’t see him doing actual combat, but he had a lot of cunning plans and fluent quotable dialogue, finally doing him service.
    Would be really interested in a Joffrey Baratheon video, because I believe his cruelty has many factors at play, truly one of the most interesting characters in fiction and I’d love to understand more about him.

  • @valtersplume3726
    @valtersplume3726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The lenght of the video already tells how complex and sophisticated this character is.

  • @PointlessRhetoric
    @PointlessRhetoric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    The way tywin's decomposing body is described is extremely memorable. Some of George's characters are awesome. It's too bad there's never going to be a resolution to the story.

    • @WallKenshiro
      @WallKenshiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I know. Last I saw George was making a Playstation Game and a Sci Fi show or comic or something, all while everyone is accepting and lamenting the fact that he's obviously given up trying to finish the ASOIAF saga.
      It's like I have two years of my life missing since watching The Battle Of The Bastards on the show too. All I remember was watching that, then suddenly it was a new decade and we all had to start wearing masks at stores and staying away from eachother.
      And now we're living in a real life Cold War II too, when all we wanted to do was watch the Long Winter War on HBO by now.

    • @nicokrasnow1851
      @nicokrasnow1851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There's a theory that Tywin was poisoned

    • @oussamat612
      @oussamat612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nicokrasnow1851 yea
      oberyn

    • @windowsmizu416
      @windowsmizu416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What the hell, didn't GRRM say he's comfortable with TWOW now? I understand why ADOS is up in the air however.

    • @natedogg890
      @natedogg890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@WallKenshiro Video game development takes a LONG time, George's contribution to Elden Ring was actually several years ago during preproduction. Honestly, I choose to believe that George will finish the books. Maybe I am setting myself up for disappointment, but I would rather risk that than give up hope and disrespect the intentions of the man who created the world and books we all fell in love with.

  • @jeffreymelton2200
    @jeffreymelton2200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude that was so well written. I have to give you praise for that. It was a pleasure to have listened to it. it was also awesome to be able to get a deeper understanding of Tywin as well.
    I think that the man who played him on GOT did a phenomenal job. His screen presence was that of strength, poise, and calculated ruthlessness.
    Damn good assessment. Must have taken a long time to write, and for that I recognize, and appreciate your efforts.

  • @noratheweeb9387
    @noratheweeb9387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am honestly very happy to see all this. I’ve always loved Game of Thrones, but hearing more about Tywin has been amazing. He’s a villain I love to hate.

  • @arturovegas8022
    @arturovegas8022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    My boy Tywin gets his well deserved spotlight 👏 . I appreciate the time you put into these videos.

  • @TheChaosDragoness
    @TheChaosDragoness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Tywin Lannister is such a despicable man, yet he has a charisma and aura of control over any situation to him that you can't help but begrudgingly admire and respect him in some way no matter how much you may hate him.

    • @alexthelizardking
      @alexthelizardking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No that's Charles Dance.

    • @TheChaosDragoness
      @TheChaosDragoness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@alexthelizardking Charles Dance adds to the performance, he was perfectly cast here.

    • @alib8557
      @alib8557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In the show maybe( mostly because of Charles dance) but sorry in the books I can only fell fear, not admiration…

    • @HDreamer
      @HDreamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alib8557 That's because in the books we mainly know him through the eyes of his children.

  • @Dresqus
    @Dresqus ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Hats off to Charles Dance for best possible portrayal of Tywin Lannister. What an amazing actor!

  • @fairweathertrains3029
    @fairweathertrains3029 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is such a well done video mate and fantastic person to do a character study on. Charles Dance’s Tywin is easily one of the best adaptations from the ASOIAF books.

  • @attackpatterndelta8949
    @attackpatterndelta8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    “Plots and schemes are the same thing.”
    -Tyrion Lannister

  • @JustTooDamnHonest
    @JustTooDamnHonest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Tytos Lannister(The Laughing Lion)
    Tywin Lannister(The Stern Lion)
    Jaime Lannister(The Vain/Honorable Lion)
    Cersei Lannister(The Mad Lioness)
    Tyrion Lannister(The Little Lion)
    Ruthless, Brutal, Commanding, Prideful, Feared and Calculating. These are the words that tell you all about Tywin Lannister and why he was someone who was feared and respected in equal measure. His deeds were cold and smart and also merciless in the execution(like what happened with the Rains of Castamere). Tywin grew up in the shadow of his weak father Tythos(The Laughing Lion) and that constant reminder was an insult to his son(Tywin) and that in turned made him into someone who grew into someone who wasn't a laughing stock and after his time in the capital during his youth he mastered the art of the brutal political structure within it and how to navigate it and with that knowledge he became the Hand of the King on several occasions and even got some of the people silently praising Tywin has the "true ruler of Westeros" and not King Aerys(who was slowly losing his sanity bit by bit) and that in turn made him someone that no one would want to face in the game.
    Narcissism and Vanity. These are showed when Tywin deals with his children especially when it comes to his legacy and that he uses his past as way to sway them from their defiance and not to mention that his need to control his children shows small hints of his narcissism especially when he talks down to them for their "supposed" bad choices(like Tywin was talking down to Jaime when he attacked the Starks, which Jaime was later captured).
    But in this case the once great Tywin Lannister meet a fate that would in turn make him a future laughing stock in the eyes of the future and that was dying on the shitter by way of a crossbow at the hands of his "unworthy" son(Tyrion Lannister).

  • @LouxPs
    @LouxPs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a thorough analysis of one of my favourite characters in the books! With your insight and attention to detail you manage to give justice to the incredibly deep, complex and intricate personalities of House Lannister! Thank you for this!

  • @distinguishedallureproduct879
    @distinguishedallureproduct879 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    NGL, was definitely hoping Tywin was going to be the "final" Villain (besides of course Dani) the man was just so calculated and villianious, I love how he ended so pathetically on the toliet though

    • @distinguishedallureproduct879
      @distinguishedallureproduct879 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, we need a Side series about Tywins growth into the man we see in GoT

    • @S.D.323
      @S.D.323 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i feel like the final villains in the books will be euron, littlefinger, the white walkers, cersei, and maybe daenerys, stannis, and tyrion

  • @jorgewashington1469
    @jorgewashington1469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    The sanest thing Aerys ever did was mistrust Tywin

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      but also the best thing he did was have him as hand of the king. Easily.

    • @SolarArmadillo
      @SolarArmadillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I disagree.
      The only reason Aerys didn't have a fully loyal House Lannister on his side was because he didn't marry his son to Cersei, a match which made complete sense in the world of Ice and Fire.

    • @pedropierre9594
      @pedropierre9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SolarArmadillo he had already lost trust a long time before that so the point you disagreed with holds more weight

    • @TheAnon03
      @TheAnon03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      At the end at least, craziest thing was having contempt for Tywin when Tywin was the best ally he ever had. Everyone who hangs around the crown does so for their own gain, or at others behest for the gain of others. Tywin was one of the very few whose gain didn't come at the expense of the King, the crown or of house Targaryen.

    • @hkazu63
      @hkazu63 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s brilliantly dichotomous. Distrusting him with was the wisest and most foolish thing that could’ve been done. Tywin would always come out on top in the end, no matter what happened, because of his intelligence and restraint. Killing him would’ve even likely ruined him, even if doing so would’ve temporarily advanced Aerys’ position (which feels insane given that Aerys was king). It’s a fantastically complex situation wherein Tywin is still likely to prevail, no matter what situation arises.

  • @danielcadwell9812
    @danielcadwell9812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "Horrifying actions done in service to advancing the power of the powerful" is quite common in the world, not just the world of Ice and Fire.

  • @dr3dg352
    @dr3dg352 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a video I've come back to multiple times. It's my favorite Analyzing Evil so far, I can't get enough of the history and themes of Tywin!

  • @robertallen1392
    @robertallen1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This episode is THE episode. The best one you’ve done by far. And one of the best characters to do it for. Great work. (Would’ve mentioned Tysha at the end there tho)

  • @seighart117
    @seighart117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Tywin has a professionalism to him that other villains in the novels don’t have.

    • @deathismycolor
      @deathismycolor ปีที่แล้ว

      Which part ? hmm

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, he’s definitely the Michael Corleone of Westeros. Put them in each other’s places and I’d bet they’d make almost all of the same decisions. “It’s not personal. It’s just business.”

    • @colebresnehen38
      @colebresnehen38 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluemarlin8138 it very much was personal considering what he did to his children

  • @rasiabsgamingcorner2258
    @rasiabsgamingcorner2258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    I'm not a fan of tywin but I have to admit it's hard to not respect him for what he achieved in his life.

    • @Miuranger1
      @Miuranger1 ปีที่แล้ว

      What did he achieve exactly? He was getting ran ragged by a 15 year old boy

    • @sh3tpostsgamertime204
      @sh3tpostsgamertime204 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ur too humble

  • @zivosthrintolimgren3513
    @zivosthrintolimgren3513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An hour-long analysis is fitting for the most ambitious character in the series, contested by only a few at best. That being said, I'd love to see an Analyzing Evil featuring Cersei Lannister, as she is the longest running villainous Lannister of the series, as well as seeing how she changed in personality and action as she lived through the reigns of (and eventual deaths of) her children.

  • @Undone545
    @Undone545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my favourite Tywin moment is when Tyrion is talking to Kevan about Tywin and is actually shocked to see Kevan loves him (not just cowtows to his presence). That he wasn't a "nice man". He still gave the realm its longest period of peace and prosperity. He served his king and country diligently. He restored the prestige of his family. It earned him nationwide scorn. I do believe Tywin was a "great" man at the expense of being a good man. The great statement but not the good father.

  • @patthecat1800
    @patthecat1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    Tywin was so clever he planned his own death for before the writing of the show became terrible.

    • @grandmasterrevin5977
      @grandmasterrevin5977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean?

    • @mat7083
      @mat7083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@grandmasterrevin5977 He dies before season 5 and in the books. An expectation in which anyone can jokingly say that Tywin already planned to die.

    • @williamleach6195
      @williamleach6195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Sigma Male Grindset

    • @josephnissenson3252
      @josephnissenson3252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His death's a very effective point to mark where the show turns to shit

    • @gilbatzri
      @gilbatzri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Tywin was so clever he planned his own death for before the writing of the show became terrible."
      Underrated comment, even though it has 200 likes. Still underrated, it should be pinned, it is of such quality.

  • @BlueflameKing1
    @BlueflameKing1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Tywin is basically the greatest power broker and influencer in Westeros, soo much so that his death threw the entire series off a cliff and towards disaster.
    The most terrifying thing about Tywin is that he not only does he have the ability to do this evil, is that he can get anyone to follow his plans and believe that it was theirs. The greatest weapon is the one you don't see that killed you.

  • @americanbrunch3611
    @americanbrunch3611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Idk about anyone else, but when he rides in on the horse following the Blackwater Bay, the overall mood of the scene was enhanced by him. Just a certain sinisterness he carries that leaps off the screen

  • @massagegarage9261
    @massagegarage9261 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing and insightful analysis. One of the best videos on TH-cam.

  • @whoopwhoop1916
    @whoopwhoop1916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    I always wondered why he never remarried someone after his wife's death. Jaime was a King's Guard and he despised Tyrion for a variety of reasons and therefore his family's legacy was on thin ice.

    • @180Deadman
      @180Deadman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Imo, that was the one thing that the eternally pragmatic Tywin showed his humanity in. He truly loved his wife, and after he lost her, he couldn't bear the thought of remarrying. It was the only time he totally let his emotions make the decision for him

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because tywin is a proven hypocrite. He preaches all these things about family yet he does things that clearly goes against them such as sleeping with a whore on his bed when tyrion got criticized for it.

    • @bigidiot8902
      @bigidiot8902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remarrying would make him similar to his father, something he despised. He would use prostitutes for his lust, but he wouldn't attach any feelings to them.

    • @ravenwhiteduck6460
      @ravenwhiteduck6460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@180Deadman it's ironic due to him talking about duty and legacy so much

    • @averycecil361
      @averycecil361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Late reply, but everyone’s personal favorite insult is basically the thing they hate the most about themselves.

  • @kittylover62
    @kittylover62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'm surprised that you didn't mention that Tywin didn't believe the rumors regarding Jamie and Cercei, even though they were true. It's amazing that he didn't even look into something like that throughout his life.

    • @borgnar999
      @borgnar999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ignorance is bliss.

    • @spdewertton
      @spdewertton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean the books have been out for years and we're used to their relationship. But for a father to entertain the idea that his twins might actually be fucking... I mean I'm sure he'd sooner believe that Jamie has lazer eyes. Plus he has noting to win by looking into it. Either it's a lie and the rumors must be silenced, or it is true and the rumors must be silenced.

    • @RapFa-Hater420
      @RapFa-Hater420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even in the event that he believed the rumors, addressing it altogether would have gave it some legitimacy

  • @thomasmaguire536
    @thomasmaguire536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can tell you really did your research and put a shit load of effort into this. I love it and you do the character justice.

  • @justcallmed5297
    @justcallmed5297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I had this in my watch list for a few weeks I needed to set aside time to watch it and let me tell you I'm glad I've taken the time to watch this. This video was amazing 👏🏾

  • @j-mask7153
    @j-mask7153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I’ve been waiting a while for any character from ASOIAF/GoT to be analyzed. Great stuff Vile Eye !

    • @JoJoJoker
      @JoJoJoker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He’s the only one I care about since the show ruined every other character from the books.

  • @melledevries4685
    @melledevries4685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    He was so successful at presenting his ruthlessness as political merit that he managed to fool a large portion of the fandom as well

    • @bbluva20
      @bbluva20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      For real. So many short-sighted, ignorant fans are like, “Aw man, Tywin is so cool, he’s the best”
      Meanwhile, he commits war crimes like they’re going out of style and says the most irredeemable things. Still, those same fans are like, “well yeah, he did those things because he’s a great man”
      Like, bruh, you people are the reason real-life Tywins exist in the world.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bbluva20 Lol yeah, his Name is Vladimir Putin. The current world’s mad man of our time whose on verge of bringing us to WW3 due to his imperialistic hubris and nonsense.
      Putin is literally Tywin Lannister of our time especially considering how people praise Putin as if he’s always right and “cool” to think he always has things under control in a badass manner when they are praising someone who would easily throw them under the buss when given the chance it suits them.
      It’s complete madness all around!

    • @forgottenredemption4970
      @forgottenredemption4970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Imo. He was one of the smartest men alive. A great general and leader. A great lord with no rival bar 1 flaw. His unrelenting pragmatism causing him to do things most would deem monstrous. He wasn't cruel because he enjoyed it. He wasn't stupid or foolish. He was a complete pragmatist where morality didn't weigh anything. In some ways he may of thought some of his actions morally superior than the choices most would of made. "Tell me why it is more honorable to kill a thousand in battle than a dozen at dinner?" Here he his making a case that he actually has the moral high ground because objectively less death was caused in his mind regardless of what any may say or hide behind using honor. He was a truly horrific and scary individual... but nevertheless one of the greatest in some terms. Like his ability to plot and plan. Being greatly skill in 1 area doesn't mean we can't hold him accountable for the atrocities he committed all for his insecurities and pride.

    • @coledarby665
      @coledarby665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@bbluva20 You do realize people can enjoy villains and not agree with their actions right? I mean Darth Vader from star wars is a beloved fan favorite and he slaughtered innocents on mass including children.

    • @undeadblizzard
      @undeadblizzard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Cole Darby Darth Vader is interesting because Anakin is compassionate to a fault. When he is evil, his dream remains true to bring peace and order. Palpatine spent years manipulating, showing him the worst of humanity stroking Anakin's ego.

  • @TheTreherne
    @TheTreherne ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Possibly the most well developed fictional bad guy ever.

    • @JudgeHolden2003
      @JudgeHolden2003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tony Soprano? Walter White?

  • @VotEtoPizdets
    @VotEtoPizdets ปีที่แล้ว

    I havent made it more than 4 seconds into the video and i see the run time of over an hour. That is the moment i know that im going to love this breakdown. Your analysis of the characters is always articulated well and quite accurate. So, being that this is a video on an incredibly complex character such as Tywin, coupled with an insanely long video, well, im excited to delve.

  • @jakobrenner2230
    @jakobrenner2230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    He, along with his son Tyrion, is one of my favourite characters in literature.

  • @aknight6480
    @aknight6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tywin was actually my favorite character. He was hard, power hungry and cruel to his son but he was also brave, wise and had a very strong code which he believed in firmly. I also loved the way he routinely schooled people🤣🤣

  • @AugustTheStag
    @AugustTheStag ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Charles Dance was just the fucking perfect casting for Tywin Lannister

  • @pancake1308
    @pancake1308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. One of the few good characters he has written and you outdone yourself this time with this content

  • @drfunkypunk
    @drfunkypunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As well as revealing that Tywin takes a very 'hands on' approach, the scene with him gutting the stag is also very telling. The stag is the symbol of House Barthaeon. The scene represents how the Barthaeons reign has ended because of the Lannisters and it is they who now rule King's Landing.

  • @saucy-jack1332
    @saucy-jack1332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Good shit an hour dedicated to one of favorite game of thrones characters from my favorite analytical TH-camr

  • @jaagupvahtras6232
    @jaagupvahtras6232 ปีที่แล้ว

    absolutely amazing video watched this while doing some work and holy im a huge fan of the song of ice and fire universe and this taught me so much props man

  • @Gaijins
    @Gaijins ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would love a spin off about Tywins younger years and end with the the rains of castamier.