But it's indicative of What he is- hungry for absolute control. He's plenty intelligent enough to know why (although, he might be psychologically incapable of accepting &/or sharing, it with someone else) Even if he could accept & share, he might get a special pleasure out of playing coy/refusing another, the satisfaction of illustrating his flaws. Hannibal probably got me into all types of psychologically based, interests- watching the story unfold as a child, with my parents, boggled my mind.
I think it's too simple to call Dr Lecter's feelings for Misha love. Those feelings are much more complicated and confused. Let's not forget that he ate Misha, and that saved him from starving to death, and as such tasted better than anything else, before or after. That he didn't know at the time that he was eating his sister and thereby saving his own life, has resulted in a very complex mental trauma, mixing guilt, revulsion and hate with the wonderful feeling of finally eating and surviving starvation. I believe that's why he goes to such lengths to create wonderful human dishes to serve his friends, thereby possibly alleviating his own sense of guilt by eliciting pleasure and adulation from his dinner guests who love the meal when being unaware of what they were actually consuming. A bit like: "See, you like it too" to make himself feel less like a monster.
I think this is the best analysis of why he does what he does. It makes alot of sense for him to try and alleviate guilt by feeding others human meat and seeing them enjoy it.
Maybe he wanted clairice to be misha as a way to alleviate his guilt by having a stand in so he could of shown her how well he would of treated her instead of eating her.
And this is in one sentence why psychology isnt a science and noone educated takes it seriously. You did an academic dissertation....on a fictional character. That isnt how science works
It's because he is always angry, he learned to hide it, that is why you find it truly terrifying. You look at him with a different mind, as someone who went through a lot of trauma, people get angry with someone being angry, because they cannot fathom the impact it has. So severe trauma must be hidden for society to feel better about turning a blind eye to evil people masquerading as fine upstanding citizens.
@@asmith1711 Fascinating. It is said that we are in the presence or proximity of serial killers on a regular basis so, your point is most apropos. Stay safe
I always assumed that an aspect of Hannibal's cannibalism was a form of trophy taking. A trophy that became a part of him and thus could never be taken away from him.
I see it as he is using the weak to make himself stronger. The irony of using the dead as fuel to kill more. It is a form of disdain, and contempt for those he kills, and will kill in the future. I think the trophy concept comes from what he chooses to take from his victims. I think that is valid. It is used as a final insult, e.g. he will eat the brain of a person he is intellectually superior to, or particular contempt for their lack of intellect.
I think Hannibals greatest weapon is in fact his ability to empathize. As you might know clinical psychopaths lack the ability to truly empathize so that immediately scratches that off the list. In the book Red Dragon Chilton tells Graham that no one is really able to categorize him before Graham meets Hannibal for the first time since he had caught him. He says he shares many traits with a sociopath but isn't quite that either. It is truly fascinating how no one can ever truly put a finger on him, but everybody he encounters is an open book to him. What a fascinating and fantastic character.
I mean cognitive empathy is something sociopath's & antisocials can develop and often do to read people and situations. He probably just has extremely high cognitive empathy.
"...Most crucial and notable things about Hannibal, his intellect" not gonna lie i thought it was his cannibalism but hey the dude is smart too i guess
His intellect is what makes his character though. Him just simply being a cannibal would be an injustice to describe all his character encapsulated and why he was such an interesting villain to watch.
He has edietic memory. He also suffered a traumatic childhood. It's pretty clear what his "curse" is. He is unable to forget what he went through. He's trying to bypass it with extravagant behaviour and experiences in order to feel like he is "above" it all.
Yeah, I'm sorry but giving him a traumatic childhood, only causes so many problems. Let me explain: While both Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs do go into great detail about the pathologies of Francis Dolarhyde and Jame Gumb, explaining what made them resort to their actions, with Hannibal's case what makes him work is that he DOESN'T really have a pathology, let alone is suppose to have one. Sure, his certain traits such as his distaste for discourtesy and being a very picky eater. But why Hannibal is a cannibalistic psychopath is never really explained or really even hinted at, in the original first two novels, which was THE WHOLE POINT. He was written as less of a fleshed out character and more of a manifestation of evil itself. Kind of like Judge Holden (Blood Meridian). Someone who's beyond logic or explanation, not a puzzle that can be solved, he just is who he is. Lines like, "The psychologists call him a psychopath, they don't know what else to call him." (Red Dragon) and "(Is he some kind of vampire?) They don't have a name for what he is." (Silence), were meant to sum up who Hannibal is. Therefore, adding the whole Mischa backstory, strips from Hannibal this disturbing ambiguity, contradicting the entire essence of his character.
He is basically the closest “human” character we get to Count Dracula. He basically is a supernatural ancient evil. He is what Dracula would be if he were flesh and blood.
@@BH-2023 Dracula still isn't a real person though. Magneto is based on Malcolm x but that doesn't mean there's a mutant out there that can control metal
Both Mads Mikkelsen and Anthony Hopkins masterfully portrayed their respective versions of Hannibal, but personally I find Mads's version slightly more terrifying. There's something bone chilling about how nonchalantly he carries out the most horrific actions, pulling strings on a grand scale with cold and calculated precision. It's also that the series gives him time to be fleshed out as a more adaptation-faithful character, which allows Mads to play a Lecter with more depth than the Silence of the Lambs version.
I don't think more time or depth makes a character better per say and I'd say for characters like Hannibal the less time you spend with him the better. Keeps the mystery of it all. It's probably why the writer never wanted to write a backstory for him. It takes away from him character rather than add to it. Sadly.
Brian Cox's version is the only one scary to me. Hopkins' Lecter is someone who's a obvious nutcase. Mads' Lector is an erudite sous chef. Cox's Lecter is a sophisticated, charismatic manipulator.
I loved Hopkin's Lecter, of course, however i'd have to agree with you that Mikkelsen's is much more terrifying. I suppose part of it is that you get to see the violence the character is capable of inflicting and you get to see him outside of his cell where he has much more power.
I think Dr. Lecter would be insulted being called a mere under chef. He would have considered himself chef de cuisine. But your point is interesting, since the Lecter character was only summarily presented in the first film, Manhunter. (Sorry, I don't remember much about his characterization in Red Dragon since I haven't reread it in over forty years.)
I personally prefer Hopkin's version, when you look into his eyes in the film, he's able to portray a psychotic man who's mind is constantly working. I'd never really enjoyed any of the performances Mads Mikkelsen has done, always to me the performances seem flat. Even his portrayal of Lecter seemed terrifying and cold to others simply because Mads just did the portrayal using a monotone voice and flat expression. But the magic of Hopkins performance is that Lecter isn't portrayed as flat and unfeeling, he truly looks like a cat amusing himself with his food.
The point on vigilantism is very important, especially in the book. The book seems to imply that the fact that the community agreed with his killing of war criminals left a lasting effect on his own justification for continuing to kill.
As a vigilante adjacent point, in the end of the "Silence of the Lambs" movie--when it implies he is going to kill and eat Dr. Chilton--the audience in the theatre applauded. Every time I saw the film in the theatre.
20:44 In the Hannibal TV series he finds out Jack Crawford's wife Bella has lung cancer just by smelling her and said he realised one of his teachers had stomach cancer the same way. He finds out about Will Graham's encephalitis through it too but doesn't tell him as a sick experiment to see how it affects Will's thoughts and his ability to empathise with people including serial killers.
@Lex Bright Raven He goes to the doctor after he has smelled that something is wrong with him and asked him to draw a clock for him (which Will fails to do but Hannibal pretends that he did it correctly)
I met a man once who had an odd smell about him, he told us later he had late stage stomach cancer. It wasn't like bile or digestive fluid, it really was just kind of...a strange chemical combination. It was very foreign, like adjacent to a specific smell but off a few molecules. He was very lovely and open about his experiences and I hope he's found some peace
In an interview Sir Anthony Hopkins stated that director Jonathan Demme pitched the Lecter character to him by comparing him to the chararcter of dr. Treves, played by Hopkins in The Elephant Man. He said that he was baffled by the comparison because dr. Treves was a good and righteous man and Lecter was the complete opposite to wich Demme replied : "that's what Lecter is, a good man trapped inside an insane mind."
Isnt that in reference to buffalo bill? I might be mixing up the movie and the book but I think that quote is in response to someone saying "people are saying hes some kind of vampire".
@@sanriodeppressionthermos8602 It's regarding Hannibal. Clarice responded to the officer asking that as they rode the elevator up for her to have one final visit with Hannibal and get the correct location of Buffalo Bill. Hannibal previously lied about his name be Louis Friend which is an anagram for fools gold.
I’ve seen the Silence of the Lambs many, many times, and it took me at one of the most recent viewings to notice a magazine called Bob Appetit sticking out from under the drawing of Clarice. Very tongue in cheek, so to speak.
Not gonna lie, I love this "Analyzing Evil" series, and especially the longer ones like this. I understand that more work than I can possibly know goes into every second of produced content, so I don't mind shorter videos. Especially when there just isn't as much lore behind every evil character analyzed, I totally DO NOT mind the short ones. Mr. Vile Eye, your content is incredible, and I hope you are as proud of your work as we are happy that you produce it. Thank you very much.
I always thought Hannibal from the books is a member of a newly evolved species from humans. He has red eyes and six fingers. He is short and skinny but still surprisingly strong. He is inhumanly intelligent and able to remember all details. He can directly control his heart rate and other biological processes. He is fine with eating humans because he is not human like how humans eat non human animals. He's not just a smart human but something beyond human.
The chances of that are a very slim sliver of a chance. Killers like Hannibal Lecter falls into a very niche type of serial killer. Now, there are some very high crime areas where you might just be next door to a serial killer that falls into a different class- the opportunist killer- robbers, revenge killers related to crime or altercations, etc. Gary Gilmore is a good high profile example of that, although his is more spree killing. But with that said, the Bundys, Gacys, and Heidnicks only pop up once in a very blue moon. They are master manipulators who blend in with normal society, but secretly hunt and kill intended targets with the sole intent of pleasure. Lecter used any slight he saw in a person as a reason to hunt and kill them. Some of his kills were justified earlier in his life for the sake of revenge (his killing of the butcher is not justifiable just because he offended his aunt even though we learn after the fact he was a war criminal because he didn't know it at the time, it was only 🎶coincidental🎶), but later on in life, when he acquired a taste (pun kind of intended) for it, became less justifiable. Examples of unjustified attacks are the nurse (who survived but was mutilated), the art director in Florence, Dr. Chilton (yes he was a prick, but justifiable homicide?, not really), and the Baltimore musician. I'm sure there were others, but I can't think of them offhand- and I didn't mention those he assaulted or killed while fleeing because they were spontaneous kills for a self-serving purpose as opposed to premeditated.
Yeah, this is practically a no-brianer. This "quote" you have here, it isn't deep nor is it insightful. It is quite common knowledge that the bullied can and will become the bully.
I remember someone calling Hannibal "a comic book supervillain". And sure, he's kind of overpowered, but I think he's just a 'renaissance man', expert in several fields (medicine, music, cooking, perfumery, and to a lesser degree in painting), much like Leonardo Da Vinci or Goethe. In real life, any musician can do what he's shown doing, the same with any skilled perfum maker and cook. The senses can be trained to such levels. It's just not normal to find one person who is skilled in all of them.
@@folkloreofbeing That's because the existing body of knowledge was much smaller. Forget whole fields, it's difficult enough to master a small niche of just one specialty.
@@hunpo1 I would say that it's not that is was smaller, but that in the 19th and early 20th century and even earlier, when it was more common for someone to BE polymath - people with money had the luxury of being able to study and discover various subjects at their leisure. Not only that, but the methods and rules for getting qualifications were different then to now. For example, the early to mid Victorian period, you could set up your own chemists/pharmacy in your home or as shop. You didn't have to have a university degree to do so, or to obtain all the tools and nostrums for production. Chemicals and scientific tools were easily and readily available to the fine gent who wanted to take up a spot of chemistry. The same applies to any interest that they may take up - geology, archaeology and so on...they had the means and the time to hone these skills. And back then it was seen as part of BEING a gentleman. Today we focus on being specialised in one field.
Perhaps Dr Lector studies art and sciences with the same amount of focus that the rest of us use on social integration? It is apparent that he understands how people integrate, but it is, I think, merely a result of being so interested in the arts and sciences and just seeing how people respond to and interact with his interests.
I think starting with the Hannibal book Thomas Harris started to like the character of Hannibal too much which is why he went from an intelligent psychiatrist and serial killer in Red Dragon and Silence to a Gary Stu who was a genius at everything in Hannibal and Hannibal Rising. There's also him being retconned from being a clear villain in the first 2 books to an anti hero in the last 2. He had some deserving victims like his sister's killers and Mason Verger but the majority were innocents who fit his warped definition of "rudeness" or for petty reasons like killing Benjamin Raspail for being a bad flute player, trying to kill Will for finding him out and later sending Dolarhyde after Will and his family, killing the innocent Memphis guards when he escaped and killing Dr Fell and stealing his identity just so he could become curator of Florence's Capponi Library. He should have stayed as a villain. The TV series has his more mysterious characterisation from the first 2 books, does what little it shows of his backstory better than the last 2 books and films and keeps him a villain.
Fun Fact: The real life doctor who Thomas Harris credited as inspiration for Hannibal Lector actually served his sentence & subsequently went back to treating patients with thriving success. He died a few years back
I don't think all narcissists are extroverted about it. I think he fits that somewhat, but he's too intelligent to let his true opinion of others show because it would foil his plan, whatever it may be.
Thats correct. There is an Grandiose Narcissist, and the Vulnerable Narcissist. Grandiose Narcissists are mouthy, threaten, etc. The Vulnerable Narcissist is far more dangerous. They pretend to be victims, and appear quiet, and ahy. Dangerous, quiet little spiders.
Hannibal Lecter is one of those characters that just makes me think “What I do if I ever came into contact with them? What would that interaction look like? What would I say to him? What would he say to me? What would either of us learn from having a 10-15 minute conversation?” I think characters that get someone to ask themselves those questions are particularly compelling.
Current psychology says you know tge names and care about around 150 people. It also says between 1 and 7% of people are sociopaths. So you likely know and care about between 2 and 10 sociopaths. Also from every one ive read about..if one targets you youre probably f*cked. The only people they avoid are people tgey fear
My absulute favourite bad guy of all time. I'm sooo happy you included the books, Hopkons, and Uliel as well. (I know, most people hate Hannibal rising, but I'm not.) I only missed Mads Mikkensen's Hannibal... but maybe someday? Anyway, THANK YOU, it's a brilliant video!
I've always love Hannibal but found the TV series oddly even better than the movies and books. The relationship between Hannibal and Will Graham in the series is fascinating. You're never sure how much Will is empathic and how much he's psychopathic. He seems able to emapthise with psychopaths but somehow never guesses Hannibal is the Chesapeake Ripper.
I was happy with Hannibal’s backstory made perfect sense. Especially the part about him unknowingly eating his sister Mischa. And then turning into a cannibal.
@@Xehanort10 I sometimes love mysterious characters, especially villains, who have basically no backstory whatsoever explaining why they are the way they are, makes them scarier. Example, Judge Holden from Blood Meridian, one of the best villains ever written.
Brian Cox was interesting as Hannibal, but he appears briefly in the movie "Manhunter" from 1986 and his approach to the role is completely different. His Hannibal is also intelligent, but unpredictable. When you see Hannibal played by Anthony Hopkins, you really see a psychopath, someone whose appearance and look causes fear. Btw, another great video. Well done!
I think monster describes the Doctor well. To be able to empathize with people, yet choose to torture and murder them means you revel in their pain and suffering. It means you enjoy it, you get off on it. To me, that's the definition of a monster.
Anthony Hopkins role in "The Elephant Man" won me over many years ago. He has a screen appearance and manner few actors can achieve. How he molded all the traits that are mentioned in this video to optimal effect was again brilliant! Actually, I felt that although he is a monster, that I'd show him the respect he deserves and maybe to be a friend too...lol.
The director of the silence of the lambs saw Hopkins in the elephant man and loved his work and that’s where he came up with the idea to cast him as Hannibal. The studio only agreed if they could choose the female main role.
I recently watched the show Hannibal and another interesting villian you could cover is Mason Verger, the guy who likes to feed people to pigs in seasons 2 and 3.
Mason Verger the character was fictional upon creation in 1999 in the novel Hannibal and the 2001 film titled the same. A year later after its release Robert Pickton in Canada was arrested for doing the same thing except worse. A writer came up with a character with a fictional concept, only to find out a couple years later that it wasn't so fictional after all.
I'm still amazed at the movie fact that Hannibal Lecter doesn't blink through out the old movies. If i'm remembering that fact correctly(?) Edit: Yeah I made a mistake, I done some proper research and watched the movies myself. He does infact blink in some scenes lol.
If I remember correctly they edited out a LOT of his blinking in post along with Hopkins using eye drops and tricks to limit his blinking where he could
They actually temporarily removed Anthony Hopkins eye lids for the scenes when there's no blinking. It's a common procedure that was used in older movies and staring contests but now it's done with CGI instead
Hannibal reminds you any kind of freakish way that we're all attracted to things that could kill us like tigers they're beautiful from a distance but if you get too close yikes
I think a video discussing vigilantism would be a great idea considering the content of your channel and how so many villains and real life criminals have used it as a motivating factor/sole purpose for their actions. Plus its a relatively less-discussed topic in this area so please consider making one!
Vigilateism is actually almost never a motive for murders, even more so a serial killer. Rather, its usually a shallow, transient faux excuse given during questioning by a suspect of a violent crime who is eventually found guilty (somewhere between "I didn't do it" and a full confession to avoid the death penalty that involves exactly no secret altruistic crime fighting whatsoever.)
I see him as an allegory for human intellect and how it can go horribly wrong when not supported by family, love, and emotional stability. He even has a strong sense of empathy, but even that is skewed by his PTSD and lack of emotional guidance as a child.
One thing that I really enjoyed about Mads Mikkelsen's portrayal of Dr. Lecter is how controlled his movements are. Just like in the books, Mads's movements were always preordained and carefully executed. Similar to a stalking cat. Hannibal's body moves intimately when required then viciously when necessary. The Mind Palace and "Person Suit" were often referenced in the show Hannibal, as well. For those of you who have not seen the show I highly recommend it! It's a fun watch and gives you even more details about Dr. Lecter's character that were never mentioned in the films. There's not a lot of canon plot points, but if you watch with an open mind it's awesome!
When I watched Hannibal with Mads. That’s the first thing I noticed, how in control he was with the way his body moved. It really gave it another layer of enjoyment to the Hannibal series.
Agreed. I’m fascinated by some people who I find unbearable in some circumstances for that reason actually. A curiosity. I like how in control of himself he is and how he interacts with people considering his psychological issues. He’s actually more accurate in some ways of certain people than some people would believe. As in, people find diabolical super villains (stereotypes) more believable than Hannibal Lector. It should be the other way around for the crowd who wouldn’t be a caricature on an episode of Cops.
Dr. Lecter is the greatest of all villains. Erudite and extremely knowledgeable in a variety of fields. Courteous and callous both. A superb character. ^^
You do a really good job man. I personally find Your vocabulary and verbiage very efficient and when it needs to be exceeds expectations in verbal explanation. I appreciate you.
I meant to say more effective in my compliment what I meant was you offer perspective with the utmost of resilient support and make your points very much so in a talented manner.
I know you have done the movie version. And while I don't mind Anthony Hopkins' portrayal of Hannibal, I would really care to hear what you have to say about the 2013 NBC tv series adaptation. Personally, I think Hannibal is more fleshed out in the tv portrayal by Mads Mikkelsen. His relationship with the incredibly gifted but disturbed FBI profiler Will Graham is an unusual one and very tantalizing.
I agree. Mikkelson’s portrayal of Hannibal was masterful. He did such a good job of being able to show Hannibal as this cultured, kind, and brilliant man who also carried a sinister danger under the surface that could flip in an instant. Hopkins’ portrayal is legendary for different reasons, as that version of Hannibal was usually just blatantly evil and insane. In the series, we definitely get a better look at what actually makes Hannibal tick.
I also thought he was just 'normal', even intelligent, sensitive and caring. But due to extremely traumatizing experiences, more specificly : evil mindedness ... he might have made a choice many people make : either become that evil or fight against it. He became evil as result of trauma. His genius state of mind made it a very sophisticated killer, experimenting with the dark side of humans. Thanks, really enjoyed this. It's fun to try and make observations but we can't forget that Hannibal was a ficticious character.
Given Hannibal's protective nature/compassion towards children. One would think he'd be repulsed by Francis Dolarhyde. Being that he murdered entire families enroute to his becoming.
By then he had been incarcerated for a while. We all know that being imprisoned for years doesnt bring out the best in people. He was also in solitary confinement. In the NBC TV show his behavior changes after he turns himself in and is imprisoned. He probably stopped giving a fuck and went with what Dolarhyde was doing to get some form of entertainment.
Id love a separate video on Mads Mikkelsen's portrayal of Lecter. It’s Similar to Hopkins and the books, while also having a unique twist. Mikkelsen's portrayal is more skilled in physical combat, is much more sexually active ( at least 3 women confirmed, not counting his love for will.) and is pansexual . His relationship with Will is also an excellent change as it shows lecter having a greater fascination in other people and a desire to be understood, if not loved.
@@erithrone more like in love with his mind and his complete empathy. There is not a single erotic scene between the two, they are close as friends or brothers that completely understand each other are.
@@erithrone he was in as much love as you can be with your best friend or closest sibling that knows you like no other. Hannibal has never felt seen the way he does when he is with Will and all he wants is a person to share his true self. "Nobody wants to eat alone."
Love your series on analizing evil. This is one of my favorite villains and I love your voice its really soothing and helps with the analysis. Keep doing what your doing, there are so many good villains in film and TV still to cone.
I wouldn't mind another TV series that delves a little deeper into his backstory between Hannibal Rising and Red Dragon/Silence of the Lambs. I have seen the one with Mads Mikkelson, but that was mostly centered around Red Dragon, there is a lot of time between Rising and then that needs to be fleshed out.
I have watched many of your videos now. I am absolutely blown away at your depth of thinking. Thank you for sharing your insights. You have a way with words and I really marvel at your structured thinking. You are very gifted.
You should do Jean-Baptiste Grenouille from perfume (specifically the book). That would be very interesting, since both characters (Hannibal and Grenouille) are very similar to each other, I think moving on to the sense of smell after sight would be kinda cool.
He would be interesting but short, as he isn't evil, just not in touch with his humanity. As the end of the movie says, the only thing he ever did out of love was to kill himself
Also I liked the Hannibal rising. It made sense that he was trained as a ninja essentially. That makes all of this weird almost supernatural powers to appear and reappear and disappear and move really fast makes sense. During world war II it wasn't uncommon to have Japanese in Germany obviously. It was kind of campy in some places but it really made Hannibal relatable which is a really impressive feat.also I like the way he chooses his victims mainly he only kills people that he finds to be rude.
For all the flak it gets, I genuinely like Hannibal’s origin story. If not for the tragedies of his childhood, he may have been a tremendous force for the good of humanity.
Fun fact: the part in which Hannibal says "do you know what happened to the neanderthals? We ate them" is 100% true paleontologists find more evidence for this every year.
Mads Mikkelsen did pretty well I feel , he was calm,composed , elegant , but at same time you feared the character on how easily and without hesitation killed when he had to .
I think given the chance, Don Knotts would have been a really intimidating and potentially more dangerous Hannibal Lecter. And then put Andy Griffith in the role of Buffalo Bill. "Put aunt Beas pie in the basket! "
Sir Anthony Hopkins is of course Hannibal Lecter but the Series that starred Madds Mikkelsen was just absolute perfection as well, he took inspiration from Sir Hopkins obviously but he made it perfectly his own. Of course the series has some holes and did things differently but I absolutely adored Madds version just as much as Sir Hopkins.
Since you covered a Hopkins character....could you do a vid on the villains of The Mask of Zorro (1998)? Such an underrated film with great, interesting antagonists. Love your work!
The feral assault on the nurse is always what I think back to when it comes to understanding Hannibal Lecter. He can put on all the pomp he wants, but at his core, he’s nothing more than a psychopath who eats people. No better or worse than a crazed killer who sleeps in a cardboard box, yet he believes himself to be of some higher standard when all it takes for him to snap is to cut off his meat supply. A deranged addict succumbing to impulse is all the same even in a sharp suit. Such a good character.
As someone with a bit of a distain for the romanisation of evil behaviour and the modern habit of denying evil exists; these videos are excellent meditations on art and morality. Excellent work, I'll even listen to videos on stories I dislike
Good video, thank you for this. If I may suggest the next Villain, it would be Max Cady from Cape Fear. This villain went from illiterate brute to a sneaky, intelligent man. His speech pattern ranges from shakesperean to prisontalk and his methods are pure psychoterror. An interesting individuum
Original Cady acted by Robert Mitchum was quite simplistic villain, but De Niro made him very complex. Max Cady is clearly driven by clear and defined mission and everything he does serves that mission. He might target his defensive lawyer because he learned that he had deliberately withheld evidence helping Cady's case and thought that Cady belonged to jail.
@@vksasdgaming9472 i agree it was pure deniro. I never knew he could be that scary. His taxi driver character was supposed to be but all i could think was "id snap this punk like a twig". Max cady id likely freeze in terror.. (He does remind me of my abusive dad though). When hed really lose it and speak in tongues i was thinking "id nope right the fuck put of there"
@@cdreid9999 My judgement about Taxi Driver is completely diffrent. De Niro's character in it was never meant to be scary. He is much more pitiful character - wreckage caused by loneliness and difficulty of expressing emotions. Travis Bickle is much more of a victim than perpetrator.
You bring up a very interesting point at the end. We have become obsessed with diagnosis of the many psychological disorders we have more or less identified, but we often forget that a person isn't a list of disorders. A person is a person, and they can have a reason for doing a thing, or no reason at all and still do a thing. We seem so intent on labeling the reason why as a mental illness or disorder, almost like we want the reason to be no real reason at all. I think people often forget that a person isn't a set of numbers or a quantifiable diagnosis chart, they are a unique individual. Some of his murders had reason, some of them didn't, but I think Harris was banking on people wanting to assign him as a diagnosis and move on. People aren't diagnoses, we are people. All of us are monsters and masters, devils and angels, dirt and gold. Every person is a unique Gem, cut in any number of ways by our life experiences and predispositions. Lecter certainly isn't a good person, and he is easily seen as evil, as his darkest acts are among the darkest a person can imagine, but he also isn't a diagnosis; he is a man. As you said, his being just a man makes him all the more terrifying, as the thought removes the safety net; the net being the presumption that only the mentally ill have the capacity to do horrible things. He serves as a reminder that all persons have the capacity for great evil, if given certain circumstances and situations, everyone could do horrible things to others.
"Nothing happened to me, Officer Starling. *I* happened." Loving your channel. Some vids I'd love to see: Gus Fring (Breaking Bad) David8 (Prometheus/Alien) Marc (Peeping Tom) Cady (Cape Fear, either version) Asami (Audition) Mr. Blonde (Reservoir Dogs)
Love these. Just watched your entire analysis. My aim now is to create a villain worthy of your analysis in my stories. Whether or not I achieve that is besides the point. Thanks for inspiring me.
Great analysis & a treat for those who actually read books. In my humble opinion Dr Lecter is a avant guarde nihilist who read Alistair Crowley's treatise Magick & took very much to heart "do as thy wilt shall be the whole of the law".
I never comment, but if you see this, you did an AMAZING job. Hannibal has always and will always be my favorite character ever written. The amount of thought and effort you put into this is very apparent. Seriously loved this video.
One thing I remember from seeing Silence of the Lambs: he knew from the beginning where Bumble was. All the early drawings we saw were of the type of building occasionally called a "Belvedere".
To this day, and even when typing these sentences, i cant hold my tears on that scene when they take her sister from him. I cant even start to imagine such an event happening, since i have a sister 2 years younger than me who i love and would die for. And she was taken from him. In such a brutal way, being powerless as u see someone you love with such devotion...
I have a sister 6 years younger than me. I haven’t felt bad for book characters since I was a child, but during one of the flashbacks in Rising I felt a wave of sorrow.
Excellent work as always. But you still have to cover the most evil and maniacal character of all.. Grandpa Joe from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
He had some nerve calling Willy Wonka an inhuman monster while Charlie's mother worked herself to the bone to look after everyone but Joe with his cocaine nails stayed in bed all day until Charlie got the golden ticket at which point he danced around like he'd gotten 50 years younger. He grabbed Mrs Teavee's ass, stole the Fizzy Lifting Drinks and so on.
@@Xehanort10 and was so gonna give Slugworth the Everlasting Gobstopper, with the intent to put Wonka out of business. Charlie was the one manned up and decided to do the honorable thing.
as a longtime Hannibal Lecter fan, this analysis is immaculate, and it really got me thinking. If you ever decide to make a podcast discussing "evil"pop culture characters, I'll certainly be an avid listener; this was mindblowing. I'm subscribing.
You've done a Herculean amount of work to make these videos, anyone can see that. I've watched maybe 10 or so in the past few days, all fascinating and extremely well made. Thank you so much for these videos, man. I appreciate you- we all appreciate you, clearly.
The more I hear you talk about Hannibal the more I start to think he’s an annoyingly perfect character haha. His senses are heightened. He looks like a gentleman. He has great charisma. He has natural strength like an ant. He has a photographic memory and a mind palace. He’s a genius.
These get better and better every time in there own different way.. bravo my friend and thank you for the massive efforts you put into these... you my friend are a massive commodity to TH-cam
Really surprised you didn’t show Mads Mikkelson. Although it was a different take, he seems to be closer to the actual book version. And man did he kill it
It's an NBC show that later aired on Showtime. There's rights issues unfortunately keeping it from going further. But it seems that there's still life. If we all keep pushing it could happen
Hannibal "Nothing made me this way"
Harris "he was forced to eat his own sister"
Me "that'll do it"
A fail proof method for creating killers...
@@alainvosselman9960 When in doubt, assume those who've eaten siblings are in at least slight mental disarray
@@hihunter7 Good rule to live by, my dad used to tell me that all the time.
But it's indicative of What he is- hungry for absolute control. He's plenty intelligent enough to know why (although, he might be psychologically incapable of accepting &/or sharing, it with someone else)
Even if he could accept & share, he might get a special pleasure out of playing coy/refusing another, the satisfaction of illustrating his flaws.
Hannibal probably got me into all types of psychologically based, interests- watching the story unfold as a child, with my parents, boggled my mind.
Like what did they think would happen like is oh my sister delicious like what
I think it's too simple to call Dr Lecter's feelings for Misha love. Those feelings are much more complicated and confused. Let's not forget that he ate Misha, and that saved him from starving to death, and as such tasted better than anything else, before or after. That he didn't know at the time that he was eating his sister and thereby saving his own life, has resulted in a very complex mental trauma, mixing guilt, revulsion and hate with the wonderful feeling of finally eating and surviving starvation. I believe that's why he goes to such lengths to create wonderful human dishes to serve his friends, thereby possibly alleviating his own sense of guilt by eliciting pleasure and adulation from his dinner guests who love the meal when being unaware of what they were actually consuming. A bit like: "See, you like it too" to make himself feel less like a monster.
I think this is the best analysis of why he does what he does. It makes alot of sense for him to try and alleviate guilt by feeding others human meat and seeing them enjoy it.
That's true
I haven't read the books, however, in the movie Hannibal rising, isn't it revealed that Hannibal knew all along that he was eating his sister?
Maybe he wanted clairice to be misha as a way to alleviate his guilt by having a stand in so he could of shown her how well he would of treated her instead of eating her.
Spot on.
I studied criminal psychology and actually did my thesis on Hannibal. It’s an amazing look into a truly tormented,evil and brilliant mind
And this is in one sentence why psychology isnt a science and noone educated takes it seriously.
You did an academic dissertation....on a fictional character. That isnt how science works
How did you made a thesis based on a fictional character? You smell fish to me 😜
@@thewhorenextdoor8268 you seriously asked that on.. THIS video?? how ironic
@@cynicalgold9992 unbelievable
@@cynicalgold9992 top tier reply hahhahahaha
42:09 "None of these victims are fleshed out." I disagree. I think Dr. Lector fleshes out quite a few of his victims.
👁 see what you did there.
That's a good one
Ba dum tss
I audibly lol’ed when he said that
with fava beans...
Only Sir Anthony Hopkins can win an Oscar with a role that has less than 20 minutes of screen time.
Unless you’re Judi Dench getting an Oscar for 8 minutes of screen time in Shakespeare in Love 😂
I think Anthony only had 16 minutes total.
Or Anne Hathaway in Les Mis.
The champ is Beatrice Straight, who won an Best Supporting Actress Oscar for five minutes and two seconds of screen time.
20mins that were used & credited...Not counting the deleted scenes of his chats with Clarice. All in all, he probably had closer to 30-35mins
Terrifying for me is the fact that
Dr. Lecter rarely, if ever,
lends himself to fits of anger.
Hopkins portrayal is Brilliant.
"What do you think? Entrails in or out?. No, has to be out i think"
With no change in the cold demeanor whatsoever.
@@cheesesniper473 truly chilling
It's because he is always angry, he learned to hide it, that is why you find it truly terrifying. You look at him with a different mind, as someone who went through a lot of trauma, people get angry with someone being angry, because they cannot fathom the impact it has. So severe trauma must be hidden for society to feel better about turning a blind eye to evil people masquerading as fine upstanding citizens.
@@asmith1711 Fascinating.
It is said that we are in the presence or proximity of serial killers on a regular basis so, your point is most apropos.
Stay safe
he use shamanism to transmute anger into stored power. but yea who care.. don juan matus from carlos castaneda care.
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I always assumed that an aspect of Hannibal's cannibalism was a form of trophy taking. A trophy that became a part of him and thus could never be taken away from him.
That's too easy. Like a Criminal Minds explanation.
I see it as he is using the weak to make himself stronger. The irony of using the dead as fuel to kill more. It is a form of disdain, and contempt for those he kills, and will kill in the future. I think the trophy concept comes from what he chooses to take from his victims. I think that is valid. It is used as a final insult, e.g. he will eat the brain of a person he is intellectually superior to, or particular contempt for their lack of intellect.
It was a way to relieve the pain of what happened with Mischa, paradoxically
@@UFOUAPMagnet ur not supposed to eat the brain :/
@@derangedQuiver Dont put rules on me lol
I think Hannibals greatest weapon is in fact his ability to empathize. As you might know clinical psychopaths lack the ability to truly empathize so that immediately scratches that off the list. In the book Red Dragon Chilton tells Graham that no one is really able to categorize him before Graham meets Hannibal for the first time since he had caught him. He says he shares many traits with a sociopath but isn't quite that either. It is truly fascinating how no one can ever truly put a finger on him, but everybody he encounters is an open book to him. What a fascinating and fantastic character.
I mean cognitive empathy is something sociopath's & antisocials can develop and often do to read people and situations. He probably just has extremely high cognitive empathy.
He is like the Devil himself
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@@drizzy9126 interesting
Haha, I did the same thing! And the timing of the narrator's greeting with the introduction of Hannibal greeting Clarice was jarring
@@drizzy9126 bro this isn't tinder this is a youtube comment section
When you see a hannibal lecter analysis that's 53 minutes you know it's good
Automatic thought
My exact though I got all excited
You got that right.
Damn didn’t realized it was that long until you mentioned it. I misread it as 20+ minutes when I played it.
Yes, indeed.
"...Most crucial and notable things about Hannibal, his intellect"
not gonna lie i thought it was his cannibalism but hey the dude is smart too i guess
The worst thing about Bill Cosby is his hypocrisy
@@radthibideaux9978 This Hannibal fellow was a real jerk
@@mrocelot277 Atleast he wasn't a hypocrite.
@@beigarthavenir4988 like jigsaw
His intellect is what makes his character though. Him just simply being a cannibal would be an injustice to describe all his character encapsulated and why he was such an interesting villain to watch.
He has edietic memory. He also suffered a traumatic childhood. It's pretty clear what his "curse" is. He is unable to forget what he went through. He's trying to bypass it with extravagant behaviour and experiences in order to feel like he is "above" it all.
Incredible
@@Prince_CK31 That’s why “Never knowing the origin” and “Nazis fucking duped him into eating his baby sister” both work.
@@davidw.2791 Not Nazis Red army soldiers ..
Interesting.
Yeah, I'm sorry but giving him a traumatic childhood, only causes so many problems. Let me explain:
While both Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs do go into great detail about the pathologies of Francis Dolarhyde and Jame Gumb, explaining what made them resort to their actions, with Hannibal's case what makes him work is that he DOESN'T really have a pathology, let alone is suppose to have one.
Sure, his certain traits such as his distaste for discourtesy and being a very picky eater. But why Hannibal is a cannibalistic psychopath is never really explained or really even hinted at, in the original first two novels, which was THE WHOLE POINT. He was written as less of a fleshed out character and more of a manifestation of evil itself. Kind of like Judge Holden (Blood Meridian). Someone who's beyond logic or explanation, not a puzzle that can be solved, he just is who he is.
Lines like, "The psychologists call him a psychopath, they don't know what else to call him." (Red Dragon) and "(Is he some kind of vampire?) They don't have a name for what he is." (Silence), were meant to sum up who Hannibal is. Therefore, adding the whole Mischa backstory, strips from Hannibal this disturbing ambiguity, contradicting the entire essence of his character.
He is basically the closest “human” character we get to Count Dracula. He basically is a supernatural ancient evil. He is what Dracula would be if he were flesh and blood.
Again another misunderstood hero.
Dracula was a real person tho.
Vlad the impaler
Dracula is based on him but he is still a fictional character.
You do realize that Dracula was based on Vlad Dracula, The Impaler, right?
@@BH-2023 Dracula still isn't a real person though. Magneto is based on Malcolm x but that doesn't mean there's a mutant out there that can control metal
Both Mads Mikkelsen and Anthony Hopkins masterfully portrayed their respective versions of Hannibal, but personally I find Mads's version slightly more terrifying. There's something bone chilling about how nonchalantly he carries out the most horrific actions, pulling strings on a grand scale with cold and calculated precision. It's also that the series gives him time to be fleshed out as a more adaptation-faithful character, which allows Mads to play a Lecter with more depth than the Silence of the Lambs version.
I don't think more time or depth makes a character better per say and I'd say for characters like Hannibal the less time you spend with him the better. Keeps the mystery of it all. It's probably why the writer never wanted to write a backstory for him. It takes away from him character rather than add to it. Sadly.
Brian Cox's version is the only one scary to me. Hopkins' Lecter is someone who's a obvious nutcase. Mads' Lector is an erudite sous chef. Cox's Lecter is a sophisticated, charismatic manipulator.
I loved Hopkin's Lecter, of course, however i'd have to agree with you that Mikkelsen's is much more terrifying. I suppose part of it is that you get to see the violence the character is capable of inflicting and you get to see him outside of his cell where he has much more power.
I think Dr. Lecter would be insulted being called a mere under chef. He would have considered himself chef de cuisine. But your point is interesting, since the Lecter character was only summarily presented in the first film, Manhunter. (Sorry, I don't remember much about his characterization in Red Dragon since I haven't reread it in over forty years.)
I personally prefer Hopkin's version, when you look into his eyes in the film, he's able to portray a psychotic man who's mind is constantly working. I'd never really enjoyed any of the performances Mads Mikkelsen has done, always to me the performances seem flat. Even his portrayal of Lecter seemed terrifying and cold to others simply because Mads just did the portrayal using a monotone voice and flat expression. But the magic of Hopkins performance is that Lecter isn't portrayed as flat and unfeeling, he truly looks like a cat amusing himself with his food.
The point on vigilantism is very important, especially in the book. The book seems to imply that the fact that the community agreed with his killing of war criminals left a lasting effect on his own justification for continuing to kill.
Also, the men he was killing were Nazi collaborators, so the French let it slide
@@BenHopkins1000 Which was quite common after the war. I believe there were prostitutes who were lynched and many of them were publicly shamed
@@stuglife5514 And Coco Chanel wasn’t one of them
As a vigilante adjacent point, in the end of the "Silence of the Lambs" movie--when it implies he is going to kill and eat Dr. Chilton--the audience in the theatre applauded. Every time I saw the film in the theatre.
20:44 In the Hannibal TV series he finds out Jack Crawford's wife Bella has lung cancer just by smelling her and said he realised one of his teachers had stomach cancer the same way. He finds out about Will Graham's encephalitis through it too but doesn't tell him as a sick experiment to see how it affects Will's thoughts and his ability to empathise with people including serial killers.
@Lex Bright Raven He goes to the doctor after he has smelled that something is wrong with him and asked him to draw a clock for him (which Will fails to do but Hannibal pretends that he did it correctly)
I met a man once who had an odd smell about him, he told us later he had late stage stomach cancer. It wasn't like bile or digestive fluid, it really was just kind of...a strange chemical combination. It was very foreign, like adjacent to a specific smell but off a few molecules. He was very lovely and open about his experiences and I hope he's found some peace
In an interview Sir Anthony Hopkins stated that director Jonathan Demme pitched the Lecter character to him by comparing him to the chararcter of dr. Treves, played by Hopkins in The Elephant Man. He said that he was baffled by the comparison because dr. Treves was a good and righteous man and Lecter was the complete opposite to wich Demme replied : "that's what Lecter is, a good man trapped inside an insane mind."
Brilliant
Two cannibals were eating a clown, one cannibal said to the other: Does this taste funny to you?
Fallout 3
Cringe.
@@Blue0000FF: The clown didn’t like it either
Robin Williams
plot twist cannibal one was a clown, too
14:56 Barney and Clarice were safe from Hannibal after he escaped in Silence of the Lambs because they were polite to him.
The lesson: Always be polite to everyone; one never knows when it might save one's life!
@@meeeka Especially with a guy like Lecter who has warped ideas on what's polite and what's rude.
@@meeeka yeah
Another upside of politeness is the many unknown favors strangers do for you.
He always preferred to eat the rude! “Free range rude.” 😆
Hopkins described Lecter as the "Robin Hood of killers", who kills "the terminally rude".
Yes. The "free range rude". It's odd that TVE misses this in his lengthy "analysis".
It is kinda rude to serve someone a broth of their sister without telling them.
Talk about quality over quantity.
Keep up the good work man. I love your analysis of evil characters
"They don't have a name for what he is." - Clarice Starling
"Peak human efficency"
He's a Narcissist.
A demon.
Isnt that in reference to buffalo bill? I might be mixing up the movie and the book but I think that quote is in response to someone saying "people are saying hes some kind of vampire".
@@sanriodeppressionthermos8602 It's regarding Hannibal. Clarice responded to the officer asking that as they rode the elevator up for her to have one final visit with Hannibal and get the correct location of Buffalo Bill. Hannibal previously lied about his name be Louis Friend which is an anagram for fools gold.
I’ve seen the Silence of the Lambs many, many times, and it took me at one of the most recent viewings to notice a magazine called Bob Appetit sticking out from under the drawing of Clarice. Very tongue in cheek, so to speak.
The Vile Eye.
The long awaited Hannibal episode.
And it's 53 minutes..
Just inject it straight into my veins.
Facts Lmao!
Have to go find my special mirror for this.
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Malocchio.
Not gonna lie, I love this "Analyzing Evil" series, and especially the longer ones like this. I understand that more work than I can possibly know goes into every second of produced content, so I don't mind shorter videos. Especially when there just isn't as much lore behind every evil character analyzed, I totally DO NOT mind the short ones. Mr. Vile Eye, your content is incredible, and I hope you are as proud of your work as we are happy that you produce it. Thank you very much.
One minor nitpick, Lector was not a psychologist, but a psychiatrist.
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I always thought Hannibal from the books is a member of a newly evolved species from humans. He has red eyes and six fingers. He is short and skinny but still surprisingly strong. He is inhumanly intelligent and able to remember all details. He can directly control his heart rate and other biological processes. He is fine with eating humans because he is not human like how humans eat non human animals. He's not just a smart human but something beyond human.
DAMN!!!
The OG Gary Sue
now this is an epic interpretation
Seems more of an 'ancient being' of like-minded lineage and careful breeding.
nice 👌🏻
The fact that someone like Dr. Lecter could be your neighbor has always been scary to me.
Your neighbors are Hannibal Lector.
@@koba.9617 No, my neighbors are more like "The Walking Dead".
@@fulkthered Scary .
The chances of that are a very slim sliver of a chance. Killers like Hannibal Lecter falls into a very niche type of serial killer.
Now, there are some very high crime areas where you might just be next door to a serial killer that falls into a different class- the opportunist killer- robbers, revenge killers related to crime or altercations, etc. Gary Gilmore is a good high profile example of that, although his is more spree killing.
But with that said, the Bundys, Gacys, and Heidnicks only pop up once in a very blue moon. They are master manipulators who blend in with normal society, but secretly hunt and kill intended targets with the sole intent of pleasure.
Lecter used any slight he saw in a person as a reason to hunt and kill them. Some of his kills were justified earlier in his life for the sake of revenge (his killing of the butcher is not justifiable just because he offended his aunt even though we learn after the fact he was a war criminal because he didn't know it at the time, it was only 🎶coincidental🎶), but later on in life, when he acquired a taste (pun kind of intended) for it, became less justifiable. Examples of unjustified attacks are the nurse (who survived but was mutilated), the art director in Florence, Dr. Chilton (yes he was a prick, but justifiable homicide?, not really), and the Baltimore musician. I'm sure there were others, but I can't think of them offhand- and I didn't mention those he assaulted or killed while fleeing because they were spontaneous kills for a self-serving purpose as opposed to premeditated.
There was a psychiatric study that said we all encounter at least one murderer everyday.
Sometimes, monstrous acts done to others can only lead to the birth of an even more frightening monster.
Yeah, this is practically a no-brianer. This "quote" you have here, it isn't deep nor is it insightful. It is quite common knowledge that the bullied can and will become the bully.
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I remember someone calling Hannibal "a comic book supervillain". And sure, he's kind of overpowered, but I think he's just a 'renaissance man', expert in several fields (medicine, music, cooking, perfumery, and to a lesser degree in painting), much like Leonardo Da Vinci or Goethe. In real life, any musician can do what he's shown doing, the same with any skilled perfum maker and cook. The senses can be trained to such levels. It's just not normal to find one person who is skilled in all of them.
Polymaths aren't as common as they used be, but at one point, a person could be trained in many fields.
@@folkloreofbeing That's because the existing body of knowledge was much smaller. Forget whole fields, it's difficult enough to master a small niche of just one specialty.
@@hunpo1 I would say that it's not that is was smaller, but that in the 19th and early 20th century and even earlier, when it was more common for someone to BE polymath - people with money had the luxury of being able to study and discover various subjects at their leisure.
Not only that, but the methods and rules for getting qualifications were different then to now. For example, the early to mid Victorian period, you could set up your own chemists/pharmacy in your home or as shop. You didn't have to have a university degree to do so, or to obtain all the tools and nostrums for production.
Chemicals and scientific tools were easily and readily available to the fine gent who wanted to take up a spot of chemistry.
The same applies to any interest that they may take up - geology, archaeology and so on...they had the means and the time to hone these skills. And back then it was seen as part of BEING a gentleman.
Today we focus on being specialised in one field.
Perhaps Dr Lector studies art and sciences with the same amount of focus that the rest of us use on social integration? It is apparent that he understands how people integrate, but it is, I think, merely a result of being so interested in the arts and sciences and just seeing how people respond to and interact with his interests.
I think starting with the Hannibal book Thomas Harris started to like the character of Hannibal too much which is why he went from an intelligent psychiatrist and serial killer in Red Dragon and Silence to a Gary Stu who was a genius at everything in Hannibal and Hannibal Rising. There's also him being retconned from being a clear villain in the first 2 books to an anti hero in the last 2. He had some deserving victims like his sister's killers and Mason Verger but the majority were innocents who fit his warped definition of "rudeness" or for petty reasons like killing Benjamin Raspail for being a bad flute player, trying to kill Will for finding him out and later sending Dolarhyde after Will and his family, killing the innocent Memphis guards when he escaped and killing Dr Fell and stealing his identity just so he could become curator of Florence's Capponi Library. He should have stayed as a villain. The TV series has his more mysterious characterisation from the first 2 books, does what little it shows of his backstory better than the last 2 books and films and keeps him a villain.
I’m not gonna lie I laughed so loud when it showed the “Hello, Clarice” scene and he said “Hello, everyone” in that monotone voice
He actually says, “Good morning”
@@alexdelarge703 Good ol' Mandela Effect.
@@alexdelarge703 he has never said "good morning"
@@an-animal-lover Hb you watch the movie, cupcake?
@@alexdelarge703 thought you were talking about Vile, not Lector. Try understanding people's comments before insulting them
Fun Fact: The real life doctor who Thomas Harris credited as inspiration for Hannibal Lector actually served his sentence & subsequently went back to treating patients with thriving success. He died a few years back
Yep, Alfredo treviño, known as doctor Salazar, who murdered his homosexual partner.
Wait what?!
@@stevensimoff5055 oh yeah, he took inspiration out of a Mexican serial killer.
@@andrewsalvatore2174 I knew that name sounded familiar
That is very interesting. Thank you
I don't think all narcissists are extroverted about it. I think he fits that somewhat, but he's too intelligent to let his true opinion of others show because it would foil his plan, whatever it may be.
Thats correct. There is an Grandiose Narcissist, and the Vulnerable Narcissist. Grandiose Narcissists are mouthy, threaten, etc. The Vulnerable Narcissist is far more dangerous. They pretend to be victims, and appear quiet, and ahy. Dangerous, quiet little spiders.
Exactly, Hannibal shows many traits of being a cerebral/covert narcissist!
That and it might be impolite.
@@licmy2 Yes, insults do not become us, Clarice....
@@licmy2 right. He's set in his convictions regardless of the situation because he believes he is correct.
Hannibal Lecter is one of those characters that just makes me think “What I do if I ever came into contact with them? What would that interaction look like? What would I say to him? What would he say to me? What would either of us learn from having a 10-15 minute conversation?” I think characters that get someone to ask themselves those questions are particularly compelling.
Current psychology says you know tge names and care about around 150 people. It also says between 1 and 7% of people are sociopaths. So you likely know and care about between 2 and 10 sociopaths.
Also from every one ive read about..if one targets you youre probably f*cked. The only people they avoid are people tgey fear
Best advice... be polite.
I strongly agree that those kind of characters are the best.
My absulute favourite bad guy of all time. I'm sooo happy you included the books, Hopkons, and Uliel as well. (I know, most people hate Hannibal rising, but I'm not.)
I only missed Mads Mikkensen's Hannibal... but maybe someday? Anyway, THANK YOU, it's a brilliant video!
Hey thanks for finally doing Hannibal! was one of the first guys to request him along with Anton Chigurh!
I've always love Hannibal but found the TV series oddly even better than the movies and books. The relationship between Hannibal and Will Graham in the series is fascinating. You're never sure how much Will is empathic and how much he's psychopathic. He seems able to emapthise with psychopaths but somehow never guesses Hannibal is the Chesapeake Ripper.
i find the movies to be comical, the books are great. And the Tv series showed the romantic subtext between will and lecter quite well
The show was terrible. The original movie is one of the best films I’ve ever seen. Everything is is blehhh
Thought that said cheesecake ripper at first, and related
Perhaps he was too close to lector as a friend. It clouded his judgement
The show is complete overrated garbage! And pales in comparison to silence of the lambs
I was happy with Hannibal’s backstory made perfect sense. Especially the part about him unknowingly eating his sister Mischa. And then turning into a cannibal.
Some people need things to make sense.
He was better as the mysterious character he was in Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs for me.
To be fair, the Mischa storyline was implied in the Hannibal book. The prequel was not necessary (and I'm being polite here).
@@Xehanort10 I sometimes love mysterious characters, especially villains, who have basically no backstory whatsoever explaining why they are the way they are, makes them scarier. Example, Judge Holden from Blood Meridian, one of the best villains ever written.
@@anatoldenevers237 same here I like to think of Anton Chigurh when it comes to mysterious villains.
Brian Cox was interesting as Hannibal, but he appears briefly in the movie "Manhunter" from 1986 and his approach to the role is completely different. His Hannibal is also intelligent, but unpredictable. When you see Hannibal played by Anthony Hopkins, you really see a psychopath, someone whose appearance and look causes fear. Btw, another great video. Well done!
I was skeptical of the Brian Cox performance until I saw it. He was a worthy Lecter. Different, but equally good.
His Hannibal was so menacing! They really should have given him more screen time.
“Hello, everyone” synced with Lecter’s “hello, Clarice” 🔥💯😂
0:10 Very creative. Loved the synchronization of your voice and Lecter speaking.
“Fly away little Starling... Fly, Fly, Fly...”
I think monster describes the Doctor well. To be able to empathize with people, yet choose to torture and murder them means you revel in their pain and suffering. It means you enjoy it, you get off on it. To me, that's the definition of a monster.
Anthony Hopkins role in "The Elephant Man" won me over many years ago. He has a screen appearance and manner few actors can achieve. How he molded all the traits that are mentioned in this video to optimal effect was again brilliant! Actually, I felt that although he is a monster, that I'd show him the respect he deserves and maybe to be a friend too...lol.
The director of the silence of the lambs saw Hopkins in the elephant man and loved his work and that’s where he came up with the idea to cast him as Hannibal. The studio only agreed if they could choose the female main role.
@Greg Elchert Thank you! I will take note once I find it.
"he's also like a feline... in that he likes bat around his prey with his intellectual paw" ... man i love that line! 😁
Me too 😄
This is an unbelievablly in depth personality case study. Very impressed.
I recently watched the show Hannibal and another interesting villian you could cover is Mason Verger, the guy who likes to feed people to pigs in seasons 2 and 3.
Fr he was the worst villain in the whole show. The whole human/pig thing was hella disturbing
Mason Verger was evil WAY before feeding humans to pigs.
Mason Verger the character was fictional upon creation in 1999 in the novel Hannibal and the 2001 film titled the same.
A year later after its release Robert Pickton in Canada was arrested for doing the same thing except worse.
A writer came up with a character with a fictional concept, only to find out a couple years later that it wasn't so fictional after all.
Yeah, Mason is crazy as hail. Sadistic.
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I'm still amazed at the movie fact that Hannibal Lecter doesn't blink through out the old movies. If i'm remembering that fact correctly(?)
Edit: Yeah I made a mistake, I done some proper research and watched the movies myself. He does infact blink in some scenes lol.
Eye drops i think
One doesn't need Eye drops to See the Hidden Truths concealed by the Creature known as Humanity
If I remember correctly they edited out a LOT of his blinking in post along with Hopkins using eye drops and tricks to limit his blinking where he could
They actually temporarily removed Anthony Hopkins eye lids for the scenes when there's no blinking. It's a common procedure that was used in older movies and staring contests but now it's done with CGI instead
He doesn't blink a lot but he certainly does blink
Id like to see an episode on mads mikkelsen's portrayal of hannibal
Hannibal reminds you any kind of freakish way that we're all attracted to things that could kill us like tigers they're beautiful from a distance but if you get too close yikes
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@Adam Zahavi what about tigers
@Adam Zahavi so are humans
@Adam Zahavi Theyre also a line of Heavy breakthrough tank
Tell that to mike tyson
I think a video discussing vigilantism would be a great idea considering the content of your channel and how so many villains and real life criminals have used it as a motivating factor/sole purpose for their actions. Plus its a relatively less-discussed topic in this area so please consider making one!
This is truly a delightful idea.
Vigilateism is actually almost never a motive for murders, even more so a serial killer. Rather, its usually a shallow, transient faux excuse given during questioning by a suspect of a violent crime who is eventually found guilty (somewhere between "I didn't do it" and a full confession to avoid the death penalty that involves exactly no secret altruistic crime fighting whatsoever.)
Search up Like Stories of old video on vigilantism if you are interested.
That opening where you synced "Hello Everyone" with him saying "Hello Clarice" was brilliant xD
I love how one can taste the eloquence, and descriptive nature of your videos through your soothingly clear voice
I see him as an allegory for human intellect and how it can go horribly wrong when not supported by family, love, and emotional stability. He even has a strong sense of empathy, but even that is skewed by his PTSD and lack of emotional guidance as a child.
One thing that I really enjoyed about Mads Mikkelsen's portrayal of Dr. Lecter is how controlled his movements are. Just like in the books, Mads's movements were always preordained and carefully executed. Similar to a stalking cat. Hannibal's body moves intimately when required then viciously when necessary. The Mind Palace and "Person Suit" were often referenced in the show Hannibal, as well. For those of you who have not seen the show I highly recommend it! It's a fun watch and gives you even more details about Dr. Lecter's character that were never mentioned in the films.
There's not a lot of canon plot points, but if you watch with an open mind it's awesome!
When I watched Hannibal with Mads. That’s the first thing I noticed, how in control he was with the way his body moved. It really gave it another layer of enjoyment to the Hannibal series.
Even though he's a fictional character, he's one of my favorite characters, because complex people fascinate me.
Girl just don’t let it manifest in real life
@@mnjoshk you're so kind🖤
The best characters are flawed and complex. Simple and good is just not interesting.
Well said.. Would agree with you
Agreed. I’m fascinated by some people who I find unbearable in some circumstances for that reason actually. A curiosity. I like how in control of himself he is and how he interacts with people considering his psychological issues. He’s actually more accurate in some ways of certain people than some people would believe. As in, people find diabolical super villains (stereotypes) more believable than Hannibal Lector. It should be the other way around for the crowd who wouldn’t be a caricature on an episode of Cops.
Dr. Lecter is the greatest of all villains. Erudite and extremely knowledgeable in a variety of fields. Courteous and callous both. A superb character. ^^
He’s not a villain he’s an anti hero at worst, a hero at best
You do a really good job man. I personally find Your vocabulary and verbiage very efficient and when it needs to be exceeds expectations in verbal explanation. I appreciate you.
I meant to say more effective in my compliment what I meant was you offer perspective with the utmost of resilient support and make your points very much so in a talented manner.
I wasn't aware of the sister Clarice story line in the novels. That would have been much more interesting than the love interest.
you should do one of these on woojin from oldboy. he’s one of the greatest movie villains of all time in my opinion.
That's actually a great suggestion.
Yes!
Seconded!
I know you have done the movie version.
And while I don't mind Anthony Hopkins' portrayal of Hannibal, I would really care to hear what you have to say about the 2013 NBC tv series adaptation.
Personally, I think Hannibal is more fleshed out in the tv portrayal by Mads Mikkelsen.
His relationship with the incredibly gifted but disturbed FBI profiler Will Graham is an unusual one and very tantalizing.
I agree. Mikkelson’s portrayal of Hannibal was masterful. He did such a good job of being able to show Hannibal as this cultured, kind, and brilliant man who also carried a sinister danger under the surface that could flip in an instant. Hopkins’ portrayal is legendary for different reasons, as that version of Hannibal was usually just blatantly evil and insane. In the series, we definitely get a better look at what actually makes Hannibal tick.
All respect to Hopkins’ but Mads IS the definitive Hannibal Lector
agreed mads did the role justice. he was a great example of perfect casting.
The Hannibal series are some of my favorite books. I can read them over and over and they never get old
I enjoyed reading "Hannibal" in a villa outside of Florence.
YESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!!!
Me too 😁
Turn it up!
I also thought he was just 'normal', even intelligent, sensitive and caring. But due to extremely traumatizing experiences, more specificly : evil mindedness ... he might have made a choice many people make : either become that evil or fight against it. He became evil as result of trauma. His genius state of mind made it a very sophisticated killer, experimenting with the dark side of humans. Thanks, really enjoyed this. It's fun to try and make observations but we can't forget that Hannibal was a ficticious character.
Given Hannibal's protective nature/compassion towards children. One would think he'd be repulsed by Francis Dolarhyde. Being that he murdered entire families enroute to his becoming.
By then he had been incarcerated for a while. We all know that being imprisoned for years doesnt bring out the best in people. He was also in solitary confinement. In the NBC TV show his behavior changes after he turns himself in and is imprisoned. He probably stopped giving a fuck and went with what Dolarhyde was doing to get some form of entertainment.
I'm of the opinion that Dr. Lector saw Dolarhyde as a tool or a means to an end. Then again it may have just been board.
Id love a separate video on Mads Mikkelsen's portrayal of Lecter. It’s Similar to Hopkins and the books, while also having a unique twist. Mikkelsen's portrayal is more skilled in physical combat, is much more sexually active ( at least 3 women confirmed, not counting his love for will.) and is pansexual . His relationship with Will is also an excellent change as it shows lecter having a greater fascination in other people and a desire to be understood, if not loved.
It’s never stated he’s pansexual
@@BoredTime101 yeah but he’s not straight.. for a show that speaks 90% in metaphors, they made it pretty clear that hannibal was in love with will
@@erithrone more like in love with his mind and his complete empathy.
There is not a single erotic scene between the two, they are close as friends or brothers that completely understand each other are.
@@erithrone he was in as much love as you can be with your best friend or closest sibling that knows you like no other. Hannibal has never felt seen the way he does when he is with Will and all he wants is a person to share his true self. "Nobody wants to eat alone."
@@100gecsrbetterthangod5 perfectly said
Love your series on analizing evil.
This is one of my favorite villains and I love your voice its really soothing and helps with the analysis.
Keep doing what your doing, there are so many good villains in film and TV still to cone.
who could ever dislike this little gem ?
Dr. Chilton
@@alswearengine4867 lol
@@alswearengine4867 Haha Brilliant 👍🏽
I wouldn't mind another TV series that delves a little deeper into his backstory between Hannibal Rising and Red Dragon/Silence of the Lambs.
I have seen the one with Mads Mikkelson, but that was mostly centered around Red Dragon, there is a lot of time between Rising and then that needs to be fleshed out.
I feel like it's been done enough. We got a series that was brilliant and deeply disturbing. Doing much else just opens it up to damage the franchise.
I have watched many of your videos now. I am absolutely blown away at your depth of thinking. Thank you for sharing your insights. You have a way with words and I really marvel at your structured thinking. You are very gifted.
You should do Jean-Baptiste Grenouille from perfume (specifically the book). That would be very interesting, since both characters (Hannibal and Grenouille) are very similar to each other, I think moving on to the sense of smell after sight would be kinda cool.
He would be interesting but short, as he isn't evil, just not in touch with his humanity. As the end of the movie says, the only thing he ever did out of love was to kill himself
@@vinceiopez3657, *The movie...* Not *the novel.*
YES PLS
Also I liked the Hannibal rising. It made sense that he was trained as a ninja essentially. That makes all of this weird almost supernatural powers to appear and reappear and disappear and move really fast makes sense. During world war II it wasn't uncommon to have Japanese in Germany obviously. It was kind of campy in some places but it really made Hannibal relatable which is a really impressive feat.also I like the way he chooses his victims mainly he only kills people that he finds to be rude.
Is Hannibal rising the show we’re seeing with the kids in the beginning
@@morganrhodes159 yes the Russians come to the cabin and have no food they eat his little sister and feed her to him
I loved the novel! Pre-ordered it and read in in a flash. I didn't like the movie as much, but the story is very good nonetheless.
For all the flak it gets, I genuinely like Hannibal’s origin story. If not for the tragedies of his childhood, he may have been a tremendous force for the good of humanity.
@@morganrhodes159 movie but yes
Fun fact: the part in which Hannibal says "do you know what happened to the neanderthals? We ate them" is 100% true paleontologists find more evidence for this every year.
We actually interbred with them. Up to 3% of your genetic makeup can be traced back to Neanderthals, most of it related to the immune system.
Thats bs . We literally fucked tthem out of existence
Holy shit Vile 53 minutes? Jesus man ur work ethic is remarkable.
Anthony Hopkins is best actor for Hannibal Lector.
Mads Mikkelsen did pretty well I feel , he was calm,composed , elegant , but at same time you feared the character on how easily and without hesitation killed when he had to .
watch the NBC one
@Alex Cyriac more unpredictable
@@seabreeze4559 I'll definitely check it out
I think given the chance, Don Knotts would have been a really intimidating and potentially more dangerous Hannibal Lecter. And then put Andy Griffith in the role of Buffalo Bill. "Put aunt Beas pie in the basket! "
Sir Anthony Hopkins is of course Hannibal Lecter but the Series that starred Madds Mikkelsen was just absolute perfection as well, he took inspiration from Sir Hopkins obviously but he made it perfectly his own. Of course the series has some holes and did things differently but I absolutely adored Madds version just as much as Sir Hopkins.
Since you covered a Hopkins character....could you do a vid on the villains of The Mask of Zorro (1998)? Such an underrated film with great, interesting antagonists.
Love your work!
100% agreed
The feral assault on the nurse is always what I think back to when it comes to understanding Hannibal Lecter. He can put on all the pomp he wants, but at his core, he’s nothing more than a psychopath who eats people. No better or worse than a crazed killer who sleeps in a cardboard box, yet he believes himself to be of some higher standard when all it takes for him to snap is to cut off his meat supply. A deranged addict succumbing to impulse is all the same even in a sharp suit. Such a good character.
This is exactly the story of the song "Killer Queen" by queen
@@alchemicmercury To a much less severe degree. I think we can agree that prostitution is not as bad as cannibalism.
@RupertioLactate. true but both of them require you to "eat out" on the first date.
@@alchemicmercury Good pun. All is forgiven.
As someone with a bit of a distain for the romanisation of evil behaviour and the modern habit of denying evil exists; these videos are excellent meditations on art and morality. Excellent work, I'll even listen to videos on stories I dislike
Good video, thank you for this.
If I may suggest the next Villain, it would be Max Cady from Cape Fear. This villain went from illiterate brute to a sneaky, intelligent man. His speech pattern ranges from shakesperean to prisontalk and his methods are pure psychoterror.
An interesting individuum
Original Cady acted by Robert Mitchum was quite simplistic villain, but De Niro made him very complex. Max Cady is clearly driven by clear and defined mission and everything he does serves that mission. He might target his defensive lawyer because he learned that he had deliberately withheld evidence helping Cady's case and thought that Cady belonged to jail.
@@vksasdgaming9472 i agree it was pure deniro. I never knew he could be that scary. His taxi driver character was supposed to be but all i could think was "id snap this punk like a twig". Max cady id likely freeze in terror.. (He does remind me of my abusive dad though). When hed really lose it and speak in tongues i was thinking "id nope right the fuck put of there"
@@cdreid9999 My judgement about Taxi Driver is completely diffrent. De Niro's character in it was never meant to be scary. He is much more pitiful character - wreckage caused by loneliness and difficulty of expressing emotions. Travis Bickle is much more of a victim than perpetrator.
His love for Misha is even more beautiful considering who he became.
You bring up a very interesting point at the end. We have become obsessed with diagnosis of the many psychological disorders we have more or less identified, but we often forget that a person isn't a list of disorders. A person is a person, and they can have a reason for doing a thing, or no reason at all and still do a thing. We seem so intent on labeling the reason why as a mental illness or disorder, almost like we want the reason to be no real reason at all. I think people often forget that a person isn't a set of numbers or a quantifiable diagnosis chart, they are a unique individual. Some of his murders had reason, some of them didn't, but I think Harris was banking on people wanting to assign him as a diagnosis and move on. People aren't diagnoses, we are people. All of us are monsters and masters, devils and angels, dirt and gold. Every person is a unique Gem, cut in any number of ways by our life experiences and predispositions. Lecter certainly isn't a good person, and he is easily seen as evil, as his darkest acts are among the darkest a person can imagine, but he also isn't a diagnosis; he is a man. As you said, his being just a man makes him all the more terrifying, as the thought removes the safety net; the net being the presumption that only the mentally ill have the capacity to do horrible things. He serves as a reminder that all persons have the capacity for great evil, if given certain circumstances and situations, everyone could do horrible things to others.
"Nothing happened to me, Officer Starling. *I* happened."
Loving your channel. Some vids I'd love to see:
Gus Fring (Breaking Bad)
David8 (Prometheus/Alien)
Marc (Peeping Tom)
Cady (Cape Fear, either version)
Asami (Audition)
Mr. Blonde (Reservoir Dogs)
Love these. Just watched your entire analysis. My aim now is to create a villain worthy of your analysis in my stories. Whether or not I achieve that is besides the point. Thanks for inspiring me.
Great analysis & a treat for those who actually read books. In my humble opinion Dr Lecter is a avant guarde nihilist who read Alistair Crowley's treatise Magick & took very much to heart "do as thy wilt shall be the whole of the law".
I never comment, but if you see this, you did an AMAZING job. Hannibal has always and will always be my favorite character ever written. The amount of thought and effort you put into this is very apparent. Seriously loved this video.
Amazing 👌🏻 idk but I feel like analyzing Hannibal from the series portrayed by Mads Mikkelsen would be interesting too🤔
Mads Hannibal is my favorite version of the character, hope he covers him in the future along with Dancy’s Will Graham
Brian Cox is interesting too. If you get a chance to - check out Manhunter.
One thing I remember from seeing Silence of the Lambs: he knew from the beginning where Bumble was. All the early drawings we saw were of the type of building occasionally called a "Belvedere".
Man that was super cool! Been a Hannibal fan since I first read Red Dragon as a kid. Truly a well done analysis.
To this day, and even when typing these sentences, i cant hold my tears on that scene when they take her sister from him. I cant even start to imagine such an event happening, since i have a sister 2 years younger than me who i love and would die for. And she was taken from him. In such a brutal way, being powerless as u see someone you love with such devotion...
What movie is that
I have a sister 6 years younger than me. I haven’t felt bad for book characters since I was a child, but during one of the flashbacks in Rising I felt a wave of sorrow.
You are by far one of the best TH-camrs, your videos are well researched and eloquently presented. Thank you for the video on Judge Holden.
Excellent work as always. But you still have to cover the most evil and maniacal character of all.. Grandpa Joe from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
A man who laid in a bed for 25 years
You’re not wrong. He tried to lead Charlie astray.
He had some nerve calling Willy Wonka an inhuman monster while Charlie's mother worked herself to the bone to look after everyone but Joe with his cocaine nails stayed in bed all day until Charlie got the golden ticket at which point he danced around like he'd gotten 50 years younger. He grabbed Mrs Teavee's ass, stole the Fizzy Lifting Drinks and so on.
@@Xehanort10 Exactly my point!
@@Xehanort10 and was so gonna give Slugworth the Everlasting Gobstopper, with the intent to put Wonka out of business. Charlie was the one manned up and decided to do the honorable thing.
as a longtime Hannibal Lecter fan, this analysis is immaculate, and it really got me thinking.
If you ever decide to make a podcast discussing "evil"pop culture characters, I'll certainly be an avid listener; this was mindblowing.
I'm subscribing.
You've done a Herculean amount of work to make these videos, anyone can see that. I've watched maybe 10 or so in the past few days, all fascinating and extremely well made. Thank you so much for these videos, man. I appreciate you- we all appreciate you, clearly.
The more I hear you talk about Hannibal the more I start to think he’s an annoyingly perfect character haha.
His senses are heightened.
He looks like a gentleman.
He has great charisma.
He has natural strength like an ant.
He has a photographic memory and a mind palace.
He’s a genius.
Yeah he's a bit of a villain sue, huh.
@@blackosprey2219 Lector Sue enjoying some Gary Stew
I feel like an explanation for his strength is his lack of inhibition, he's always in "mom lifting car off of baby" mode
He reminds me of Sherlock Holmes.
@@naomisherred166 Evil Sherlock Holmes
These get better and better every time in there own different way.. bravo my friend and thank you for the massive efforts you put into these... you my friend are a massive commodity to TH-cam
I absolutely love the way you introduce videos through the voice of the villain, gives me chills every time
YESSSSSSSSSS I'm on a road trip rn and this is what I NEEDED for my long distance driving
Really surprised you didn’t show Mads Mikkelson. Although it was a different take, he seems to be closer to the actual book version. And man did he kill it
I think Mads Hannibal would need his own video, it’s a totally different continuity then Hopkins Hannibal
@@anatoldenevers237for sure, it’d really be hard to try making them out to be the same character despite technically being so
I haven't seen that version yet. I assumed that was where the footage of the young Hannibal came from.
@@veggiesarefruitsit’s from the Netflix show Hannibal, it has 3 seasons and it’s one of the best if not the best representation of the character
It's an NBC show that later aired on Showtime. There's rights issues unfortunately keeping it from going further. But it seems that there's still life. If we all keep pushing it could happen