Interpreting Force Feedback (feat. all new Logitech G923 with TRUEFORCE)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
  • James Baldwin explains why Force Feedback (FFB) is such a crucial element of sim racing and gives us his first impressions of the new Logitech G923 with TRUEFORCE.
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  • @larodrigfms1
    @larodrigfms1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video was true force. Truly.

    • @stevenwoodruff2647
      @stevenwoodruff2647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the video is actually from a logitech channel. this video is literally an ad for their new wheel

  • @gasixteenb11
    @gasixteenb11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First of James congrats on flying sim pedigree flag high with a fantastic performance in your epic race weekend. My goal is to one day see one of our Champions gain success in F1 and DTM. Goodluck.

  • @cjnemetz8714
    @cjnemetz8714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The latest G-Hub update broke my FFB! Thanks...

  • @yungdadi
    @yungdadi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So trueforce is just a fancy name for force feedback

    • @ByteGuy
      @ByteGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Not even that mate, its a fancy name for a haptic motor

    • @dbspaceoditty
      @dbspaceoditty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty sure its just a secondary vibration connected to sound input.

  • @samcampbell2748
    @samcampbell2748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for an informative video.

  • @anderu2384
    @anderu2384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    2:47 thats just the Iracing tire model

  • @johnwebb9035
    @johnwebb9035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    James, thanks for the report. Would you say that trueforce brings ACC FFB up to the standard of a G29 with a well setup RF2? Also can you confirm (and i would expect) that the trueforce does not interfere with the FFB in say RF2 and behaves like a G29.

    • @nobodyblues
      @nobodyblues ปีที่แล้ว

      it doesnt, g920 and g923 behave exactlythe same in acc, aka they both suck. i got both of em. what puzzles me is that they are great on AC

  • @Shocker8MTA
    @Shocker8MTA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you😁
    I got a g29 and i didn't understand why the wheel it turns itself and was quite annoying because i can't control the car with all the forces feedback.
    I will try now few setups and maybe will be verry enjoyable
    Still got a lot of things to understand about forces feedback in game and hope i will

    • @stevenwoodruff2647
      @stevenwoodruff2647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if the force feedback is too strong, try lowering the limit in the settings.

  • @michaelphillips1095
    @michaelphillips1095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The g29 has been the best entry level wheel for years now. If this brings something a lot better to the party without having to have enough force that the walls of my bedroom might blow off then I'm interested 🤣. Best wait and see. Most important is if g29 will be supported by the new consoles because of not a new wheel could be the only option..

    • @Jpilgrim30
      @Jpilgrim30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Microsoft have stated a while back that all Xbox one accessories will work with series x and Sony just recently stated PS4 wheels will work with PS5 so all good on next gen

    • @michaelphillips1095
      @michaelphillips1095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jpilgrim30 thanks for that John thats really good to know 👍👍

    • @aragon22155
      @aragon22155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the g923 seems like a sidegrade to the g29.

    • @CP-vg4vy
      @CP-vg4vy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      T150 better, T300 destroys it

    • @HandlesSuck123
      @HandlesSuck123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CP-vg4vy agreed, for the price of the G923, I'd rather just get a T300 RS and T-LCM pedals.

  • @MUKAROMERO
    @MUKAROMERO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quero muito esse produto no Brasil

  • @215dagby
    @215dagby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am having such a hard time with a wheel. It’s very frustrating. It’s not a 1-for-1 representation of how a steering wheel really behaves. I’ve done nothing but spin out for hours. If I drove this bad in real life I would be dead.

    • @nobodyblues
      @nobodyblues ปีที่แล้ว

      on what game?

    • @215dagby
      @215dagby ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nobodyblues that would’ve been GT7. I’ve gotten used to the wheel now, improved my times and started on AC and ACC since then. I just turn the sensitivity and FFB output levels at the bare minimum. Works for me. I drive way more than a normal person-a million miles in real life at this point. I’ve applied counter lock quite a few times and have kept control in real life. I think some of my problem was sims just lack all the inner ear sensations that are used for driving and it took me a bit to adjust to the sensory info that sims do provide the driver.

  • @Jesse-sy9wh
    @Jesse-sy9wh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is it still a gear driven wheel? Or have they finally upgraded to a belt with this true force? Hopefully something similar comes to fanatec dd range if it isn't already.

    • @Howie47
      @Howie47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gear driven is better than belt in many ways.

    • @VishnuRajam4x4
      @VishnuRajam4x4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Howie47 Most definitely not. Belt driven wheels are much smoother. There’s a reason Logitech is a budget wheel.

    • @Howie47
      @Howie47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@VishnuRajam4x4 And yet all real cars have gear driven steering. Not a single belt driven one. Who said smoother is more realistic? And all belts are stretchy. But if spending allot more makes you feel better. I doubt it will help you win more though.

    • @VishnuRajam4x4
      @VishnuRajam4x4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Howie47 Try any belt driven wheel and tell me what you think

    • @VishnuRajam4x4
      @VishnuRajam4x4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Howie47 My 1st wheel was a G 27. Now using Thrustmaster TSPC. It’s miles better.

  • @sheldonschuhert709
    @sheldonschuhert709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still trying to get to grips with settings for this wheel, the FFB is good but clips easy, just got this thing n I’m not trying to break it 😂

    • @nobodyblues
      @nobodyblues ปีที่แล้ว

      clipping isnt always bad, kunos boss always says that. what game are you playing? I got settings for almost every game

  • @nextlaunch1
    @nextlaunch1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In ACC only one or two of the effects work every time I turn it on, is there a fix?

  • @jaydenwynter7715
    @jaydenwynter7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I get this?

  • @kbkrzak
    @kbkrzak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what setting is best for acc trueforce 50%? 80% or maybe 100%?

    • @nobodyblues
      @nobodyblues ปีที่แล้ว

      a different wheel lol I dont play acc anymore, the g923 isnt decent enough for it

  • @fifesimracerguy455
    @fifesimracerguy455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my son's wheel is as loose as anything it is teribble to dry. Could you advise anything

    • @nextlaunch1
      @nextlaunch1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turn up min force

  • @Orions_Journey
    @Orions_Journey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But that price though 😏

  • @Sean_Lightning_OBrien
    @Sean_Lightning_OBrien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lol same old gear driven wheel with some updated haptics? The G920 is 5 years old... They could have given some nicer updates like belts driven or mew design but nope they were lazy.
    Lets hope Thrustmaster comes out with something good.

    • @Howie47
      @Howie47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea, and they've been using get engines in airplanes even a longer time.

    • @bobmcrae5751
      @bobmcrae5751 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck finding a belt driven wheel at the price of a G923.

  • @seb6259
    @seb6259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What games support this wheel

    • @oteupai.2841
      @oteupai.2841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if all games don't support it now, they will in the future for sure

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All games support logitech wheels. Even GTAV.

    • @dergreg_
      @dergreg_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As he said in the video Assetto Corsa Competizione and iRacing. And most upcoming racing simulations aswell.

    • @gasixteenb11
      @gasixteenb11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thus far I've understood that this wheel is remodeled for ps5, xbox

    • @Shocker8MTA
      @Shocker8MTA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forza horizon 4,forza motorsport, all trucks games, off road games, need for speed payback(tried myself)
      Basically all racing games who should simulate a real car

  • @freestylerjpartner6270
    @freestylerjpartner6270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No force feedback on pedals??No progress for steering wheels yet..

  • @bwm9637
    @bwm9637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Don't get it: again "gear driven" why not finally a belt? or directdrive Further more Advertisement for Logitech

    • @Max__apex
      @Max__apex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U dumb???
      DD for £150 ??
      When was last time you used ur brain

    • @bwm9637
      @bwm9637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Max__apex Reading is a Art :-) I mean why don't they come with a direct drive , Yes I know the product then cost more

  • @fabsirw8590
    @fabsirw8590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the update from g29 to g923 worth it?😅

    • @ForgFromFinland
      @ForgFromFinland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      idk but i would say sell ur g29 and then maybe buy it

    • @fabsirw8590
      @fabsirw8590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ForgFromFinland I mean wenn i sell my g29 for like 250€ and there are still 150€ left when it costs 400€ but are the 150€ so much worth it bc there are the same Buttons and is the force fb so good?

    • @ForgFromFinland
      @ForgFromFinland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fabsirw8590 well i would look at reviews and then based of that maybe buy it

    • @whysoslow1999
      @whysoslow1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The upgrade from the G29 to G923 is not worth it at all.

    • @fabsirw8590
      @fabsirw8590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whysoslow1999 i mean i don't need feedback in online games when i sent it in the first corner and take all other people out 🙂🤡

  • @assettocorsacompetizionera8400
    @assettocorsacompetizionera8400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gear driven, still not at the level of Tx or Ts 300,
    Not even close to TSXW or TGT. Good pedals though

    • @adammodan8030
      @adammodan8030 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TGT a lot better and a lot more expensive

    • @Max__apex
      @Max__apex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      G923 quicker to react

  • @Mexmex1975
    @Mexmex1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SAD. G29 new box.

  • @FRFM00
    @FRFM00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would rather a gran turismo branded thrustmaster with improved belt or hybrid. That way I feel "better" playing ranked. I'm 34 getting back in to racing, ps5 or PC. I will still consider this wheel though. If there's ant common folk out there that can guide me a lil let me know. I have read and heard that this wheel still is a great improvement feedback and speed wise. But these comments here say otherwise. Any owners here? Cheera

  • @mA-yv5ys
    @mA-yv5ys 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sponsored by Logitech

  • @danut05
    @danut05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These ads are getting way too long...

  • @hippoeug
    @hippoeug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Big step forward”. Obnoxious

  • @evrensantas8408
    @evrensantas8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gear Driven! What a joke!

  • @caiooliveira9979
    @caiooliveira9979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man should retire from racing and just do voiceovers, he has a great voice!

    • @RizeF1X
      @RizeF1X 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hes only just started, he was originally a sim racer/youtuber and won WFG

  • @chrisjohnson261
    @chrisjohnson261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Humans have no integrity man. Every sim racer/review type seems to sell people a product that they know is bogus and a sham product. Cant tell you the truth because it means no free goodies and all that. Same with most average review people. Take a product we all can see is a joke and try to somehow convince the ones of us who don't know any better than its worth buying.

  • @takethatl2556
    @takethatl2556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Logitech stop making people go bankrupt paying so much for the same wheel then have no more money to support racing developers game lmao.
    I paid so much for a G29 and then this release mhm.