The issue with the T-GT II is that it is near the price of a Fanatec DD, if you can stretch your budget a little bit you can get a direct drive wheel and into the Fanatec ecosystem.
@@OCRacing yeah shipping with taxes and import on direct drives can be expensive. I would expect a full csl dd setup to cost you 150 to 300 to get that into Canada that's how much it's going to cost me to get a vrs base alone. also One the guys have spoken to recently it costed him 600 bucks to get his dd1 to him in Saskatchewan that hurt just hearing it.
@@Lollburger88 the dd1 is twice the size and more then twice the cost as the DD Pro so it's not surprising it's costing you less as 600 was ridiculous even for the dd1. Not sure who fanatec uses for shipping to Canada but I've heard vrs they use ups and I've heard ups charges 90 bucks to clear it through customs on top of whatever Customs charges and what you pay for shipping. Which is dumb you literally got to pay them extra for them to do their job you already paid them for.
dude you have a hella nice sim rig . I accually now have a nice begginer sim rig because of you, you inspired me to get a sim rig.Thank you so much. Hope you get to more than 100k subs.
I bought the GT II with the TH8A for ETS 2 ,the benefit (if you can call it that) of a (analogue) belt driven wheel is ,it feels more realistic, than a digital "to me that is ". For instant, when you drive on a dirt road the belt drive feels much more realistic , same goes for curves .Like a real car there is a feel of pinion on the rack this is a mechanical feel .(no car is digital ) You don't have that with a digital wheel ,than again the response time of a digital wheel is much better . I'm to old for that ;-) With belt its a organic feel , with digital its solid state . Lots of you are complaining about the pedals( not yet) , but the steering wheel it self, its to small and has way to many buttons (it also looks cheap) .I bought a large wooden spoke wheel. Just my opinion . Thank you for uploading . Regards Kenneth John The Netherlands
I went from T300 to a DD and felt exactly what you described. I drive for a good chunk of the day in real life every day as part of my job, and to me belt driven sim wheel just feels more natural/realistic than direct drive. DD is too instant to respond and way too digital. I'm now watching this video considering selling my DD to get the T-GT II instead.
I bought T-GT 2 with Ferrari SF-1000 wheel and I am quite surprised how strong Force feedback is. Driving details is amazing too. I have TLCM load cell pedals. I don't now how good is the Fanatec 5Nm, but many in reddit are saying that Fanatec feels weaker and overall less good.
Another feature I didn't see mentioned was the transducer on the rear. I am not sure that it works for all games but for GT it is used to provide vibration feedback for road surface and other things in the game. Really adds a nice bit of depth as you can feel it down through the wheel stand and into your pedals (assuming there are all connected). I was skeptical at first but it really helps with immersion to have that vibration.
You know if it can be switched off? My gf goes nuts if I use my t300rs in the mancave (right above living room) the vibrations and noise is irritating. I was hoping that this one would be a bit quieter, but reading your message makes me think I have to skip this one. (I tried everything insulation, rubber mats, acoustic mats, etc etc) Unless you can turn it off ofcourse. :)
Can't believe the pedals they included with this wheel. Even the T248 at $400 comes with MUCH better pedals. Those pedals ARE actually terrible. If all you had was the stock 2 pedal set, then sure they're fine, but at this point, there is absolutely NO excuse for TM to not include at least the T3PM pedals with this wheel given it's price
Yep, they also start to squeak after month or few. And the steering wheel doesn't even have all the buttons aligned properly. I will never buy TM products. The only good product I can think of is the shifter
@@zdendas13 Yeah i had the T3PA pedals myself. Ordered them about a year after I ordered the T150, then 3 months later I got button bounce like crazy, that made the buttons on the wheel completely unusable. Had to play specific games/sims that had button debounce settings like rF2. Mine started to squeak too. Plus the spring in my brake pedal creaked from day 1 and made a pop in the pedal as the spring got pulled further and further inside, but it was always in a random spot, so it made it hard for the pedal to he predictable. Just got the T248, because this kind of thing is barely in my budget, and can't say its bad. The pedals are absolutely awesome that cone with it. Just hope this one lasts longer than a year and a half like my T150 did, considering TM only carries a 1 year warranty 🙄
@@combatwombat594 I would Rather buy the Ferrari 599XX. It's T300 RS with better wheel and a bit different pedals from what I have seen. You can buy better pedals. I wanted to buy the 599XX but I told myself that if I had to buy a wheel then it has to be a good one that I won't think of seeling. So I saved more money and bought the GT DD Pro. I also don't know much about T248. I have seen only a video of it from OC Racing. Good luck with it.
@@zdendas13 Only reason I bought the T248 was the price. Good on ya getting the DD wheel, but for me, thats hard to justify spending that much money on. It was hard to justify spending $400 on the T248 lol Maybe some day I'll be able to consider saving that kind of money not a total pain in the ass 😂
@@combatwombat594 Welp I'm 17 so I don't have to pay for house stuff and food. I can go to work and not pay for anything. I was born at the right time I guess
@@pro_driver280 So does Thrustmaster. For example T300 is notoriously unreliable even though otherwise it is a good wheel for the price. For something completely rock solid the best option is probably to save money and go with Simucube. 😄
@@OCRacing I was a fan of TM and a hater of Fanatec but after I bought the 5Nm GT DD It got switched around (I also considered G29). My uncle has T300 RS GT and at least 1 button isn't aligned. 1 pedal started squeaking after a few months. I also dislike the quick release. I had Ferrari Red Legend (PC and PS3 wheel) and it started to malfunction, and it didn't even work for PS3 brand new. The brake pedal doesn't work anymore and so on. I really tried to like TM but I can't fin why to be honest.
@@simongrankvist8892 The overall quality isn't nice tho. It definitely isn't worth 800 dollars. The GT DD Pro is priced around 770 dollars and the quality is better. You can see that the put some effort into it
Fanatec just wouldnt do a black friday deal for the dd pro. I need PS Compatibility and ended up getting the gt 2 bundle(ebay)for 500$ after shipping. I was only able to commit because of this review. Much appreciated.
i recently entered the world of sim racing and bought this wheel base along with tlcm pedals, for the price i paid i was expecting the wheels and pedals to be a bit more realistic, especialy for the wheel base i hate that synthetic feel from the belt drive system, when i turn the wheel i dont want to feel the belt system working, should i go for a direct drive one ?
Fanatec for the win 🥇!! If I ever get my freaking CSL DD which I ordered in mid March of 2022, I’ll make a video. The 480+the table clamp is all the upgrade cost me for the 8nm DD since I already have old Fanatec CSL elite aluminum pedals with clutch and load cell brake, the clubsport SQ 1.5 8sp manual and sequential shifter, and the clubsport handbrake…which I bought when I first got into sim racing for Xbox 360 when I bought the Fanatec GT2 Porsche wheel base. This GT2 wheel still works 10+ years later and is holding me over until the CSL DD arrives… My CSL Xbox 1 wheel base is broken, as a motor gave out and it doesn’t finish the start up sequence , and I also got a crap CSL elite wheel rim that broke and just out of warranty. I’m still all in for Fanatec because everything works amazingly great when it works 😅🙄😂😢! Oh yea, the clutch spring on the pedals disintegrated and had to be replaced with a compression spring from a hardware store for like 3bucks, but the load cell brake still works with the original load cell 10 years later. A belt wheel for 500 bucks is just insane and at 800 you can get a full basic Fanatec set for console and computer. Not even a close comparison.
The problem is Fanatec does not ship to where I'm from. And Fanatec costs almost double of retail when you buy from local resellers with possible issue with Fanatec Warranty. haha
Oh my god, I have received so many of your videos and seems likely forgot to smash that like button! so sorry my friend, but it is due to high quality of yours videos :)
I had the T-GT2, T-LCM and the SF1000 wheel. I must say, if you want to stay in the Thrustmaster eco system, that is the best you can get and it was a great set!! Because Thrustmaster did take to long to announce their DD set, i went now with the DD Pro set from Fanatec. And, regarding the QR from Thrustmaster there is an easy and great 3rd party solution for around 20 dollar. If anyone wants to know, let me know
@@giogamer4825 Apologies in advanced my questions might seem silly because im a noob when it comes to this stuff, but if i get a DD base for example the unreleased thrustmaster one when it comes out, will i be able to use the SF1000 with it? Only reason is i bought the SF1000 wheel already and was patiently waiting for the T-GT 2 to get back in stock but if a DD base is coming out i might as well get that (depending on the price and compatibility) also another possibly silly question, if i was to get a fanatec CSL DD base, will that be compatible with the thrustmaster wheel or just fanatec wheels only?
@@CamoKKing no silly question, if i can help i want to help. I expect that the new DD base from Thrustmaster will work with the SF1000, otherwise all other wheel from Thrustmaster will lose the value. Maybe Thrustmaster will come with an adapter so the old (also SF1000) wheels can work on the DD Base
@@giogamer4825 ok nice i hope thats the case because direct drive sounds really cool from what I’ve heard and I’ve spent quite a bit of money on the Ferrari wheel that looks so awesome. In your honest opinion, is getting a DD base worth the extra money or is the T-GT 2 sufficient enough for casual/light competitive racing? Also thanks so much for the helpful answers😄
7:23 Hello, where have you bought your support plate? It is adapted to the fanatec side mounting (from simlab) and i found it better than the big wheel plate that we can by (on Simlab as well). Thank you for your help.
Good for someone like me, that already have T-LCM and TM Wheels. I Bought TGT-II only the base, I will wait for TM DD PS5. Fanatec Bundle is only good for those who have nothing, or come from very low setups.
Another great video man If you guys you want any tips. I found out thru my order T-gt11 servo base T-lcm pedals Sf1000 steering wheel 599 alcantara plus headphones as a small bundle *almost same price as steering wheel itself but not sure if the same outside here in Australia* Found out the price is not too much if you order separate compare to bundle deal you get, between 50-150 dollars at least.
Gr8 review the built in transducer (butt kicker) only works with GT sport and GT7 and gives a slight vibration to the pedals when connected to a metal rig.
There are a lot of things to consider when choosing one over the other. That being said, a direct-drive wheel is on a different level, thus, if possible, the DD Pro would be the better choice.
@@OCRacing thanks for the info. Was going towards the dd pro. Even though its toned down by ps5 GT7. It still better when you switch to a pc. And TGT II at $800. Fanatec will have better pedals.
Hello! Have you tried using the TGT II with F1 games? Is it any good? I see lots reviews about this base but everyone is playing GT7 or sport. Does this base is good still with other games? Like F1 PC2 AC?? Thank you!
Good review, you are correct about TM cheaping out about the pedals. IMHO what limits it is some of the tech in it will only work with the GT game. Sure the base works on other games but you pay for tech you can't use unless you play GT.
Ye, the last paragraph sealed it for me - being in Canada somehow we don't have access to the MOZA racing amazon deals. Its this or meme kid wheels and logitch which is unreliable.
My tgt2 which is now just 4 months old completely died won't calibrate hooked it up to a PC it said this device isn't working properly and then it made a weird noise and shut off now it won't power up
The reason I went with the GT7 DD Pro is because it was a lot easier to get than the T-GT II. When the T-GT II was first released last year I kept looking online to buy one and couldn't find a single location that sold it. It was always sold out. Then in November of last year the GT7 DD Pro went on pre sale and I was able to put my order in no problem. My wheel even came 2 days before GT7 released. Not sure how happy I would have been with this wheel, but I love my GT7 DD Pro. I have the Load Cell Breaks and the 8nm Power supply with it. I can tell the Wheel itself is more on the cheaper side, but I'm sure it needed to be done to keep the cost down. I love the fact that I have an option to upgrade my wheel to the large line up of wheel that Fanatec has to offer. In the end making my wheel a very premium wheel all around compared to the T-GT II which you miss out on the load cell pedals, I even heard that the TM load cell breaks aren't that great compared to Fanatecs design.
Also the problems you mentioned with the T-GT ii's brakes aren't really that relevant because you don't have to buy the $800 package. You're much better off going with the servo base on its own, which comes in at a very reasonable price and also allows to dodge the average 3TPM pedals and the horrendous steering wheel. With the servo base coming in at $349 I can buy the SF1000 Ferrari wheel or a range of other alcantara offerings deeding which titles you want to play and these wheels are ultimately better than any Fanatec offering. The pedals which I would then recommend are the LCM pedals which many argue are even better or just as good as the "load cell" pedals you have which I presume are the Fanatec CSLs. All of that for a cheaper price seems like a better deal for me. The only downs is the wheel is belt driven compared to direct drive thats it pretty much.
sick video once again! can you possibly make a review on the g29 wheel mods out there like the f1 rims and all that? i know it would be a small video but I think it would be nice!
Hey, thanks for watching. I've already made a few videos on G29 wheel mods, I believe you can find them under the "Mod Reviews" playlist on my channel.
I think the TGT wheel is better with the leather and the rotary encoders vs the DD Pro wheel but obviously a Direct Drive base is better. The T3PA pedals can be upgraded with a Ricmotech load cell and they rock that way. The Rotary encoders work out with F1 and ACC on Playstation as well as GTS and GT7. You didn't mention the D-SUB in your review, I found that added a lot to the FFB in GTS. also it's really simple to use a larger wheel rim on the TGT button box, just a couple of screws. I bought an F1 style carbon fiber rim and swaped it to the TGT button box. Simple process.
Hi everyone I recently bought one of these and i have to say, i’m happy but dissapointed at the same time. My base has a funky smell like something that is burning. Also I have the feeling that my fan is extremely loud. Can anybody tell me what to do because i’m not yet familiar with thrustmasters way of doing things.
Thanks for the video. Very fresh to sim racing and just picked up a cheap second hand G29 to see if I’d enjoy it… and I do. I want to upgrade already but this wheel is weirdly placed in the market. As you’ve said, the only thing that makes it desirable over a DD is the availability. Here in Aus, this wheel is twice the price to a t300rs gt and I’m just not sure it is twice as good. The wheel is $1000 here just for the wheel and base and $1300 with the pedals. How they justify $300 for these pedals I’m not sure. For comparison the Fanatec 8nm base is $1000 here. I am also keeping in mind the direct drive wheel TM is meant to be releasing, which if isn’t in my budget should at least bring this and the 300t down in price… but when that will be who knows 🤷🏻♂️
I am currently in the market for a wheel and and I am stuck between 2 offers Logitech G Pro Wheel with pedals for 700$ or T-GT || with T LCM pedals and TH8a shifter for 800$ and only the wheel bothers me on the T GT it seems like a lot is going on on it and with its small size I am concerned if its going to be comfortable to use with so much stuff on it.
Thrustmaster have always had an issue with overpricing things, I mean look at the price of the Sparco handbrake - they're also being really pushed by Fanatec who are offering lower products, I agree though that if they offered the load cell pedals with this it might be more attractive
I don't know prices of Fanatec in America, but in Europe I bought a csl dd 8nm with pedals for about $900 (including taxes and shipping). So I can't even imagine who in their right mind would buy a t-gt2.
So where can I buy the thrustmaster shifter now a days? Why is it every time I get into someone thing its either out of stock or its going out of business. Same with that track ir5, 200 bucks for that! Wtf!?
I really didn't like the wheel so I bought the base unit for £350 and their F1 rim for £170 and very happy .I also got the TLCM pedals which makes a big difference.Its my first rig so nothing to compare to but I love it .I think the power is plenty to give you the feel of the track without ripping your arms off .and without spending thousands .
Think this is what I'll do for my first rig aswell except I plan to get a proper custom wheel for it. You think it's a hassle not having access to buttons or this would be a mistake?
@@LZYDOG You will regret getting a wheel without plenty of customizable buttons .Thrustmasters F! rim is a replica of Ferraris 2011 racing rim so has realism plus lots of very practical programmable buttons and is prob the best value rim on the market .Their sparco colab rally wheel is the perfect wheel for everything else at 30 cm with less buttons but still enough for every car you will ever drive
Btw if you re on pc you can prob buy a button box that bolts on to the cockpit and has a bank of buttons for your wheel but if you're on console you wont have that option
It's weird he didn't make any mention of it in the video. Clearly didn't play it with GT sport or GT 7. Not a great review honestly, as the transducer is it's defining feature.
I haven’t seen this wheel for sale anywhere for $800. They’re going for nearly $1500 and up on eBay. Guess the demand is far exceeding supply. I just placed an order for a Fanatec DD Pro bundle with the 8nm and load cell pedal. Hopefully it will get here sooner rather than later. Taxes and shipping to the US added almost $100 tho smh
This man must make MILIONS, right? Maybe more. When I watch ur videos, I can only DREAM of ONE DAY owning my DREAM SIM setup... And that SOMEDAY will be NEVER (probably).
I have this wheel with the load cell pedals and shifter and hand brake, and super happy with everything about it. Cool thing is dial rotors work in fh5 on pc
Own thing that annoys me is the thumb sticks don’t work on fh5 for looking around the car. When u bind them it makes you constantly look in reverse. Works for f1 tho
Cracks me up that you aren’t the only one who uses Fox Motocross gloves as driving gloves. I’ll go riding, then come home and jump on the wheel. Never take the gloves off
Its a shame TM doesn’t improve their product line faster. They have the better economy of scale to change the game than these higher end but niche manufacturers.
It's a hundred dollars more expensive than the gt dd bro bundle you can add a load cell brake to it a d it will still be cheaper then you can save and extra 200 dollars and add the sq 1.5 shifter
It is IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE TGT2 I’ve been looking for almost 2 months. Today I settled on the tgt 2 sold as is from mercari, and either it doesn’t work or the person didn’t know what they were doing but it was cheap so here’s to hoping it’s something minor I can fix. I would have gotten the fanatec but I already have so much thrustmaster sim gear it doesn’t make sense for me ( load cell, tss +, TH8A, sim hub which was also a mission to get but I got it, and numerous different wheels )
If they are serious about selling these at this price then they need to start bundling them with the TLCM pedals. The standard pedal set is terrible compared to the standard Fanatec offering and maybe even the Logitech too
It's weird you didn't make any mention of the built-in transducer. You clearly didn't play it with GT sport or GT 7. Not a great review honestly, as the transducer is it's defining feature,and the feature that separates it from something like the DD pro, which doesn't have such a thing.
I’ve been using the T-GT 2 on GT7 for the last few weeks so I found this interesting. After looking more into it, I found the transducer effect works only on GT-Sport (not GT7), hence, I never noticed it.
Are you sure you had the base in GT mode? It's very obvious when it's engaged, tireslip, engine revs, oversteer, road surface noise. It's all represented, and the game feels quite dead without the effects
My brother has the T-GT 2, he says the wheel is great, but the issue he has, is that it is expensive to run. It has a 400w motor that uses alot of electric. It baffles me that no you tubers seem to mention this in any reviews that l have seen on the T-GT 2, concidering the extra cost that comes with playing on it. BTW no disrespect intended in my comment towards yourself, in any way OC Racing
how is the g29 better? Maybe the price to performance ratio is better, but that is about it. From technical perspective the t-gt II is better in pretty much every way and the g29 is still really similar to the g27 which is about 15 years old. And believe me in my oppinion the thrustmaster wheels are far from perfect especially because of their quickrelease, but still quite a bit better than logitechs wheel offerings.
@@forzafan5776 um no.. with a name like Forza. I won't believe you for 1 second lol. A being how old that wheel is just proves how good it actually is because like you say.. not much has changed. You said it yourself.
@@Adz187 fair enough about the name, doesn't change the other facts though. The thrustmaster can turn faster, with more force (it should be about twice the power) and the motor is smoother. Also I used the g25 and 27 for the time they were both great wheels, but just for the time. I mean would you want to daily a first generation iphone, just because it was good at the time? I wouldn't nor any other phone from the time.
@@forzafan5776 an apple phone comes out every year lol Not understanding your point tbf. I have my opinion which I'm sticking to. You have yours. That's it and nothing has changed.
@@Adz187 would you buy a new phone if it would still use the thechnollogy from 15 years ago. Because that is the case with the g29, it is still pretty much the same the g27 and there were even (two?) iterations of the wheel in between and it is still the same. The only difference is that it got more expensive in the mean time. But yeah let's leave it at that, I doubt that either one of us will change their oppinion.
The issue with the T-GT II is that it is near the price of a Fanatec DD, if you can stretch your budget a little bit you can get a direct drive wheel and into the Fanatec ecosystem.
Exactly. Although it becomes more attractive when you see the pre-order wait times on Fanatec products, taxes, shipping etc.
@@OCRacing yeah shipping with taxes and import on direct drives can be expensive. I would expect a full csl dd setup to cost you 150 to 300 to get that into Canada that's how much it's going to cost me to get a vrs base alone. also One the guys have spoken to recently it costed him 600 bucks to get his dd1 to him in Saskatchewan that hurt just hearing it.
@@Lollburger88 is that actually a place
@@Lollburger88 the dd1 is twice the size and more then twice the cost as the DD Pro so it's not surprising it's costing you less as 600 was ridiculous even for the dd1. Not sure who fanatec uses for shipping to Canada but I've heard vrs they use ups and I've heard ups charges 90 bucks to clear it through customs on top of whatever Customs charges and what you pay for shipping. Which is dumb you literally got to pay them extra for them to do their job you already paid them for.
"A bit". Only applicable in areas which Fanatec does ship.
dude you have a hella nice sim rig . I accually now have a nice begginer sim rig because of you, you inspired me to get a sim rig.Thank you so much. Hope you get to more than 100k subs.
Very glad to hear that! Thanks for watching :)
I bought the GT II with the TH8A for ETS 2 ,the benefit (if you can call it that) of a (analogue) belt driven wheel is ,it feels more realistic, than a digital "to me that is ".
For instant, when you drive on a dirt road the belt drive feels much more realistic , same goes for curves .Like a real car there is a feel of pinion on the rack this is a mechanical feel .(no car is digital )
You don't have that with a digital wheel ,than again the response time of a digital wheel is much better . I'm to old for that ;-)
With belt its a organic feel , with digital its solid state .
Lots of you are complaining about the pedals( not yet) , but the steering wheel it self, its to small and has way to many buttons (it also looks cheap) .I bought a large wooden spoke wheel.
Just my opinion .
Thank you for uploading .
Regards Kenneth John The Netherlands
Is it easy to fit a custom wheel on? Looking at just buying the base
Hey alles goed, which wheel heb je ?
So far GT II the best for me
I went from T300 to a DD and felt exactly what you described. I drive for a good chunk of the day in real life every day as part of my job, and to me belt driven sim wheel just feels more natural/realistic than direct drive. DD is too instant to respond and way too digital. I'm now watching this video considering selling my DD to get the T-GT II instead.
I bought T-GT 2 with Ferrari SF-1000 wheel and I am quite surprised how strong Force feedback is. Driving details is amazing too. I have TLCM load cell pedals.
I don't now how good is the Fanatec 5Nm, but many in reddit are saying that Fanatec feels weaker and overall less good.
I went with the T-GT2 wheel base, T-LCM pedals and a couple rims with shifter and handbrake. It's awesome with GT7, that transducer is a massive plus.
Do the other rims work straight out the box without a firmware update? I have a Sparco rally wheel and have just ordered a T GT2
@@thecarrotmonster8827 yeah they work perfectly. I have a sparco wheel and open wheel
@@asheleydavies ideal, I tried it on my old T300rs but the buttons were mapped all wrong for GT7
@@thecarrotmonster8827 check the thrusmaster generic mapping for each rim. They do vary a lot.
Did you experience any overheating like loss of ffb? This happens with my t300, looking forward to upgrading
Another feature I didn't see mentioned was the transducer on the rear. I am not sure that it works for all games but for GT it is used to provide vibration feedback for road surface and other things in the game. Really adds a nice bit of depth as you can feel it down through the wheel stand and into your pedals (assuming there are all connected). I was skeptical at first but it really helps with immersion to have that vibration.
You know if it can be switched off?
My gf goes nuts if I use my t300rs in the mancave (right above living room) the vibrations and noise is irritating.
I was hoping that this one would be a bit quieter, but reading your message makes me think I have to skip this one. (I tried everything insulation, rubber mats, acoustic mats, etc etc)
Unless you can turn it off ofcourse. :)
@@Flaggytt300 isnt even that loud.. damn now you got me thinking about my downstairs neighbors 😂
I agree, that «quick release» is everything but quick
I hope that thrustmaster changes it asap
I think they changed it with the t818 and the new t598
Can't believe the pedals they included with this wheel. Even the T248 at $400 comes with MUCH better pedals. Those pedals ARE actually terrible. If all you had was the stock 2 pedal set, then sure they're fine, but at this point, there is absolutely NO excuse for TM to not include at least the T3PM pedals with this wheel given it's price
Yep, they also start to squeak after month or few. And the steering wheel doesn't even have all the buttons aligned properly. I will never buy TM products. The only good product I can think of is the shifter
@@zdendas13 Yeah i had the T3PA pedals myself. Ordered them about a year after I ordered the T150, then 3 months later I got button bounce like crazy, that made the buttons on the wheel completely unusable. Had to play specific games/sims that had button debounce settings like rF2. Mine started to squeak too. Plus the spring in my brake pedal creaked from day 1 and made a pop in the pedal as the spring got pulled further and further inside, but it was always in a random spot, so it made it hard for the pedal to he predictable. Just got the T248, because this kind of thing is barely in my budget, and can't say its bad. The pedals are absolutely awesome that cone with it. Just hope this one lasts longer than a year and a half like my T150 did, considering TM only carries a 1 year warranty 🙄
@@combatwombat594 I would Rather buy the Ferrari 599XX. It's T300 RS with better wheel and a bit different pedals from what I have seen. You can buy better pedals. I wanted to buy the 599XX but I told myself that if I had to buy a wheel then it has to be a good one that I won't think of seeling. So I saved more money and bought the GT DD Pro. I also don't know much about T248. I have seen only a video of it from OC Racing. Good luck with it.
@@zdendas13 Only reason I bought the T248 was the price. Good on ya getting the DD wheel, but for me, thats hard to justify spending that much money on. It was hard to justify spending $400 on the T248 lol Maybe some day I'll be able to consider saving that kind of money not a total pain in the ass 😂
@@combatwombat594 Welp I'm 17 so I don't have to pay for house stuff and food. I can go to work and not pay for anything. I was born at the right time I guess
You can now get a Direct Drive Fanatec setup for around $750-800. Making any Belt-drive in that price range a NO GO.
not if you live in Asia 😢
Not if you are in the TM ecosystem and a servo is 399 new
not if you want the Ferrari SF 1000 steering wheel. and if you live in Canada like me since Fanatec wont deliver here 🤷♂️
Fanatec is not even available to buy in many parts of asia
@@pro_driver280 So does Thrustmaster. For example T300 is notoriously unreliable even though otherwise it is a good wheel for the price.
For something completely rock solid the best option is probably to save money and go with Simucube. 😄
It's better to have a time consuming "quick release" than not being able to swap the rim at all!
Well, obviously. But for $800, it's quite disappointing.
@@OCRacing yeah. But it's still Nice to be albe to swap the rim😉
@@OCRacing I was a fan of TM and a hater of Fanatec but after I bought the 5Nm GT DD It got switched around (I also considered G29). My uncle has T300 RS GT and at least 1 button isn't aligned. 1 pedal started squeaking after a few months. I also dislike the quick release. I had Ferrari Red Legend (PC and PS3 wheel) and it started to malfunction, and it didn't even work for PS3 brand new. The brake pedal doesn't work anymore and so on. I really tried to like TM but I can't fin why to be honest.
@@simongrankvist8892 The overall quality isn't nice tho. It definitely isn't worth 800 dollars. The GT DD Pro is priced around 770 dollars and the quality is better. You can see that the put some effort into it
Fanatec just wouldnt do a black friday deal for the dd pro. I need PS Compatibility and ended up getting the gt 2 bundle(ebay)for 500$ after shipping. I was only able to commit because of this review. Much appreciated.
i recently entered the world of sim racing and bought this wheel base along with tlcm pedals, for the price i paid i was expecting the wheels and pedals to be a bit more realistic, especialy for the wheel base i hate that synthetic feel from the belt drive system, when i turn the wheel i dont want to feel the belt system working, should i go for a direct drive one ?
Yes
Thrustmaster should have bundle the T-GT II with different wheel options and T-LCM pedals for a reasonable price.
Fanatec for the win 🥇!! If I ever get my freaking CSL DD which I ordered in mid March of 2022, I’ll make a video. The 480+the table clamp is all the upgrade cost me for the 8nm DD since I already have old Fanatec CSL elite aluminum pedals with clutch and load cell brake, the clubsport SQ 1.5 8sp manual and sequential shifter, and the clubsport handbrake…which I bought when I first got into sim racing for Xbox 360 when I bought the Fanatec GT2 Porsche wheel base. This GT2 wheel still works 10+ years later and is holding me over until the CSL DD arrives… My CSL Xbox 1 wheel base is broken, as a motor gave out and it doesn’t finish the start up sequence , and I also got a crap CSL elite wheel rim that broke and just out of warranty. I’m still all in for Fanatec because everything works amazingly great when it works 😅🙄😂😢! Oh yea, the clutch spring on the pedals disintegrated and had to be replaced with a compression spring from a hardware store for like 3bucks, but the load cell brake still works with the original load cell 10 years later. A belt wheel for 500 bucks is just insane and at 800 you can get a full basic Fanatec set for console and computer. Not even a close comparison.
The problem is Fanatec does not ship to where I'm from. And Fanatec costs almost double of retail when you buy from local resellers with possible issue with Fanatec Warranty. haha
If the retail price was $600 it would've been perfect.
it is. Today and tomorrow!
Its on sale for $750 CAD Now and definitely tempting at that cost.
@@kylerobinson6102 prime day in europe is 599€ with taxes ;-)
Oh my god, I have received so many of your videos and seems likely forgot to smash that like button! so sorry my friend, but it is due to high quality of yours videos :)
can you make a vid on whether you would use the T-GT II Servo Base or the t300 servo base
I had the T-GT2, T-LCM and the SF1000 wheel. I must say, if you want to stay in the Thrustmaster eco system, that is the best you can get and it was a great set!! Because Thrustmaster did take to long to announce their DD set, i went now with the DD Pro set from Fanatec. And, regarding the QR from Thrustmaster there is an easy and great 3rd party solution for around 20 dollar. If anyone wants to know, let me know
Wait does thrustmaster have a DD set and is compatible with the SF1000?
@@CamoKKing they will announce and sell it this year...they have to reveal it yet. Thrustmaster started last year with teasers
@@giogamer4825 Apologies in advanced my questions might seem silly because im a noob when it comes to this stuff, but if i get a DD base for example the unreleased thrustmaster one when it comes out, will i be able to use the SF1000 with it? Only reason is i bought the SF1000 wheel already and was patiently waiting for the T-GT 2 to get back in stock but if a DD base is coming out i might as well get that (depending on the price and compatibility) also another possibly silly question, if i was to get a fanatec CSL DD base, will that be compatible with the thrustmaster wheel or just fanatec wheels only?
@@CamoKKing no silly question, if i can help i want to help. I expect that the new DD base from Thrustmaster will work with the SF1000, otherwise all other wheel from Thrustmaster will lose the value. Maybe Thrustmaster will come with an adapter so the old (also SF1000) wheels can work on the DD Base
@@giogamer4825 ok nice i hope thats the case because direct drive sounds really cool from what I’ve heard and I’ve spent quite a bit of money on the Ferrari wheel that looks so awesome. In your honest opinion, is getting a DD base worth the extra money or is the T-GT 2 sufficient enough for casual/light competitive racing? Also thanks so much for the helpful answers😄
7:23 Hello, where have you bought your support plate? It is adapted to the fanatec side mounting (from simlab) and i found it better than the big wheel plate that we can by (on Simlab as well). Thank you for your help.
Thanks of once again more another quality video
Thanks for watching :)
Good for someone like me, that already have T-LCM and TM Wheels. I Bought TGT-II only the base, I will wait for TM DD PS5. Fanatec Bundle is only good for those who have nothing, or come from very low setups.
Another great video man
If you guys you want any tips.
I found out thru my order
T-gt11 servo base
T-lcm pedals
Sf1000 steering wheel
599 alcantara plus headphones as a small bundle *almost same price as steering wheel itself but not sure if the same outside here in Australia*
Found out the price is not too much if you order separate compare to bundle deal you get, between 50-150 dollars at least.
do you think it will work with the playseat evolution? or would it be too instable
Gr8 review the built in transducer (butt kicker) only works with GT sport and GT7 and gives a slight vibration to the pedals when connected to a metal rig.
For PS5 GT7 alone. Would you get the TGT II or the Fanatec DD pro?
There are a lot of things to consider when choosing one over the other. That being said, a direct-drive wheel is on a different level, thus, if possible, the DD Pro would be the better choice.
@@OCRacing thanks for the info. Was going towards the dd pro. Even though its toned down by ps5 GT7. It still better when you switch to a pc. And TGT II at $800. Fanatec will have better pedals.
Get the g29. With a next level racing gaming rig all for £200
@@Adz187 wait what? $209 including a rig? Or a wheel stand?
@@Jmab-rv7jc the wheel, peddles, rig=£200
Gear shifter= £25
Ps3=80
And of course a digital copy of GT7=59.99💥
Hello! Have you tried using the TGT II with F1 games? Is it any good? I see lots reviews about this base but everyone is playing GT7 or sport. Does this base is good still with other games? Like F1 PC2 AC??
Thank you!
Do huskenveld pedals work with Moza r9
Assuming your on PC and those pedals plug in via usb, yes.
Good review, you are correct about TM cheaping out about the pedals. IMHO what limits it is some of the tech in it will only work with the GT game. Sure the base works on other games but you pay for tech you can't use unless you play GT.
What kind of features won't work with other games?
What should I go with
Tgt 2 for the sf1000
Or dd for the obvious direct drive 😅
Does the quick release screw have to be tightened so that it goes all the way in?
No
Ye, the last paragraph sealed it for me - being in Canada somehow we don't have access to the MOZA racing amazon deals. Its this or meme kid wheels and logitch which is unreliable.
My tgt2 which is now just 4 months old completely died won't calibrate hooked it up to a PC it said this device isn't working properly and then it made a weird noise and shut off now it won't power up
The reason I went with the GT7 DD Pro is because it was a lot easier to get than the T-GT II. When the T-GT II was first released last year I kept looking online to buy one and couldn't find a single location that sold it. It was always sold out. Then in November of last year the GT7 DD Pro went on pre sale and I was able to put my order in no problem. My wheel even came 2 days before GT7 released.
Not sure how happy I would have been with this wheel, but I love my GT7 DD Pro. I have the Load Cell Breaks and the 8nm Power supply with it. I can tell the Wheel itself is more on the cheaper side, but I'm sure it needed to be done to keep the cost down. I love the fact that I have an option to upgrade my wheel to the large line up of wheel that Fanatec has to offer. In the end making my wheel a very premium wheel all around compared to the T-GT II which you miss out on the load cell pedals, I even heard that the TM load cell breaks aren't that great compared to Fanatecs design.
a fanatec easier to get than a Thrustmaster wheel LMFAO, you clearly weren't looking hard enough.
Also the problems you mentioned with the T-GT ii's brakes aren't really that relevant because you don't have to buy the $800 package. You're much better off going with the servo base on its own, which comes in at a very reasonable price and also allows to dodge the average 3TPM pedals and the horrendous steering wheel. With the servo base coming in at $349 I can buy the SF1000 Ferrari wheel or a range of other alcantara offerings deeding which titles you want to play and these wheels are ultimately better than any Fanatec offering. The pedals which I would then recommend are the LCM pedals which many argue are even better or just as good as the "load cell" pedals you have which I presume are the Fanatec CSLs. All of that for a cheaper price seems like a better deal for me. The only downs is the wheel is belt driven compared to direct drive thats it pretty much.
Does the wheel buttons work with all sims? I heard some buttons only work with gran turismo. Also does the tactile transducer work with gt7?
sick video once again! can you possibly make a review on the g29 wheel mods out there like the f1 rims and all that? i know it would be a small video but I think it would be nice!
Hey, thanks for watching. I've already made a few videos on G29 wheel mods, I believe you can find them under the "Mod Reviews" playlist on my channel.
@@OCRacing ah, gotcha. thanks!
I think the TGT wheel is better with the leather and the rotary encoders vs the DD Pro wheel but obviously a Direct Drive base is better. The T3PA pedals can be upgraded with a Ricmotech load cell and they rock that way. The Rotary encoders work out with F1 and ACC on Playstation as well as GTS and GT7. You didn't mention the D-SUB in your review, I found that added a lot to the FFB in GTS. also it's really simple to use a larger wheel rim on the TGT button box, just a couple of screws. I bought an F1 style carbon fiber rim and swaped it to the TGT button box. Simple process.
I wouldn't say of course dd is better T- GT II sends feedback thru the pedals which in turn travels thru your cockpit and adds a lot ino.
Hi everyone
I recently bought one of these and i have to say, i’m happy but dissapointed at the same time.
My base has a funky smell like something that is burning.
Also I have the feeling that my fan is extremely loud.
Can anybody tell me what to do because i’m not yet familiar with thrustmasters way of doing things.
Just got one of these, what racing games for PC do you recommend?
Depends what you’re looking for. I tend to recommend project cars 2 to beginners
Thanks for the video. Very fresh to sim racing and just picked up a cheap second hand G29 to see if I’d enjoy it… and I do. I want to upgrade already but this wheel is weirdly placed in the market. As you’ve said, the only thing that makes it desirable over a DD is the availability. Here in Aus, this wheel is twice the price to a t300rs gt and I’m just not sure it is twice as good. The wheel is $1000 here just for the wheel and base and $1300 with the pedals. How they justify $300 for these pedals I’m not sure. For comparison the Fanatec 8nm base is $1000 here. I am also keeping in mind the direct drive wheel TM is meant to be releasing, which if isn’t in my budget should at least bring this and the 300t down in price… but when that will be who knows 🤷🏻♂️
How expensive is Moza in Australia?
@@vaenii5056 $800 aud for the base and $900 for the GS I think.. or maybe $1000. I ended up getting the Simagic mini and fxc wheel.
Would you say it is worth the upgrade over the t248 and will those t248 pedals work with the gt2 ?
Yes and yes. The T-GT 2 is on another level when it comes to outright performance compared to the T248.
I found a used tgt2 with tlcm pedals and a playseat evolution. Should I get it?
for 560$
@@boostify7770 Definitely go for it 👍
Everything new prices:
Playseat €300
T-LCM €200
TGT €650+
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€1150-560 =€490 gained.
Why to buy this over the fanatec gt pro? 6 vs 8nm belt vs dd. Why to buy this?
I am currently in the market for a wheel and and I am stuck between 2 offers Logitech G Pro Wheel with pedals for 700$ or T-GT || with T LCM pedals and TH8a shifter for 800$ and only the wheel bothers me on the T GT it seems like a lot is going on on it and with its small size I am concerned if its going to be comfortable to use with so much stuff on it.
Does tgt 2 have a lot more power than t300 in games without using transducer? How force feedback compare to t300?
Old post but the T-GT2 torque is far higher. Its closer to about 7nm of torque from my experience
Does it worth comparing to the T300RS? For now I have a G29 hehe
Thrustmaster have always had an issue with overpricing things, I mean look at the price of the Sparco handbrake - they're also being really pushed by Fanatec who are offering lower products, I agree though that if they offered the load cell pedals with this it might be more attractive
issue with fanatec is they refuse to ship to my country
@@mattstuff4177 they can hardly ship to the countries they do now so its gonna take years for them to be as big as thrustmaster on shelvs and stuff
I don't know prices of Fanatec in America, but in Europe I bought a csl dd 8nm with pedals for about $900 (including taxes and shipping). So I can't even imagine who in their right mind would buy a t-gt2.
So where can I buy the thrustmaster shifter now a days? Why is it every time I get into someone thing its either out of stock or its going out of business. Same with that track ir5, 200 bucks for that! Wtf!?
Will this wheel attach to the new Thrustmaster DD?
hippity hoppity can you send it to me so it's my property?😂 Great review as always!
Giveaways coming this year?? 👀
@@OCRacing 🤨 sign me up already
@@OCRacing maybe give away some gear you dont use... Maybe maybe
Man, thanks for the review, can I know your shoes name? I know it is Puma but please more details for online order 😊
I use T300RS Ferrari... is it worth if i change to TGT2...? Or better stick with T300RS to save money?
Going to buy the base alone and use my ts300rs wheel
Is the T248 pedal base compatible with the TGT2 ???
Yes
Lord i wish my channel was on the level where i could be sent items to review, I would had loved to been able to review this and even the Fanatec one.
i have a problem my wheel does not go fully 1080 degrees
Depends on the game I think
Is this a good buy for $600 new for the bundle? I need ps5 compatibility.
Yes, that’s a good price for what you’re getting
I really didn't like the wheel so I bought the base unit for £350 and their F1 rim for £170 and very happy .I also got the TLCM pedals which makes a big difference.Its my first rig so nothing to compare to but I love it .I think the power is plenty to give you the feel of the track without ripping your arms off .and without spending thousands .
Think this is what I'll do for my first rig aswell except I plan to get a proper custom wheel for it. You think it's a hassle not having access to buttons or this would be a mistake?
@@LZYDOG You will regret getting a wheel without plenty of customizable buttons .Thrustmasters F! rim is a replica of Ferraris 2011 racing rim so has realism plus lots of very practical programmable buttons and is prob the best value rim on the market .Their sparco colab rally wheel is the perfect wheel for everything else at 30 cm with less buttons but still enough for every car you will ever drive
Btw if you re on pc you can prob buy a button box that bolts on to the cockpit and has a bank of buttons for your wheel but if you're on console you wont have that option
@@Dave062YT Thanks yea ended up buying the sparco rally wheel
@@LZYDOG Grear choice it's a winner
can you use this wheel with the t3pa pedals?
If thrustmaster's new DD wheelbase enters the market around the price of fanatec CSL DD, because that'd make their T-GT II even more pointless.
Any comment about the T-DFB featured by the wheelbase?
It's weird he didn't make any mention of it in the video. Clearly didn't play it with GT sport or GT 7. Not a great review honestly, as the transducer is it's defining feature.
I'm returning the t248.This or the t300rs gt?
The pedals r better on the 248 than the 300 or thia
I’d buy a moza r9 than the tgt but I’d still get it good vid oc!
Nice to see you here again. Thanks for watching :)
Do u drive buses just wondering why u got the seating position of a bus
Maybe I do 👀
I haven’t seen this wheel for sale anywhere for $800. They’re going for nearly $1500 and up on eBay. Guess the demand is far exceeding supply. I just placed an order for a Fanatec DD Pro bundle with the 8nm and load cell pedal. Hopefully it will get here sooner rather than later. Taxes and shipping to the US added almost $100 tho smh
Oh interesting 🤔 are you in the US?
@@OCRacing Yes I am.
It’ll be worth the wait man.
Well, I bought it for about 400 bucks second hand "like new". My previous wheel was good old DFGT so I expect it to be better than that.
This man must make MILIONS, right? Maybe more. When I watch ur videos, I can only DREAM of ONE DAY owning my DREAM SIM setup... And that SOMEDAY will be NEVER (probably).
I have this wheel with the load cell pedals and shifter and hand brake, and super happy with everything about it. Cool thing is dial rotors work in fh5 on pc
Own thing that annoys me is the thumb sticks don’t work on fh5 for looking around the car. When u bind them it makes you constantly look in reverse. Works for f1 tho
if your able to make a review on the fanatec csl DD please do it
I recently made a review on the GT DD Pro which is essentially the same thing. Feel free to check that out.
Good review
Also good job Ferrari
🐎 🟢⚪️🟤 🇮🇹 🅿️
Never thought i would hear someone say "at 11 inches, i just wish it was a little bit bigger"
We all have different standards 🥱
I definitely prefer the shape of this wheel base than the CSL DD's because this (to me) looks more like a real wheel then the DD's box shape.
What if you only care about the rim? because that's the only part i'm interested in.
Unfortunately I do not think it's possible to purchase the rim as a stand alone directly from Thrustmaster.
Is this package compatible with acc
Of course 👍
Didn't mention the tfdb transducer that is a big game changer in gt7
Cracks me up that you aren’t the only one who uses Fox Motocross gloves as driving gloves. I’ll go riding, then come home and jump on the wheel. Never take the gloves off
Its a shame TM doesn’t improve their product line faster. They have the better economy of scale to change the game than these higher end but niche manufacturers.
How come this channel only got 31k subs?? and companies are sending you expensive stuff to review?? hot damn! Get this man a hundred thousand subs!
He just made it :)
780 $ with tlcm pedals is it a good deal?
ye
It's a hundred dollars more expensive than the gt dd bro bundle you can add a load cell brake to it a d it will still be cheaper then you can save and extra 200 dollars and add the sq 1.5 shifter
It is IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE TGT2 I’ve been looking for almost 2 months. Today I settled on the tgt 2 sold as is from mercari, and either it doesn’t work or the person didn’t know what they were doing but it was cheap so here’s to hoping it’s something minor I can fix. I would have gotten the fanatec but I already have so much thrustmaster sim gear it doesn’t make sense for me ( load cell, tss +, TH8A, sim hub which was also a mission to get but I got it, and numerous different wheels )
What’s the point get this when u can get a dd for a lot less
If they are serious about selling these at this price then they need to start bundling them with the TLCM pedals. The standard pedal set is terrible compared to the standard Fanatec offering and maybe even the Logitech too
Agreed. Thrustmaster standard T3PA pedals are worse than the Logitech one
Coming from a T300 hope this is good else its going back. Fanatec does not ship here else would have sweitched
Let me know your thoughts on it! I’m confident you’ll be satisfied
Local pricing in my country beats the fanatec CSL and the DD/DD PRO in the used market. If you can get it at MSRP then its a good starter wheel.
It's weird you didn't make any mention of the built-in transducer. You clearly didn't play it with GT sport or GT 7. Not a great review honestly, as the transducer is it's defining feature,and the feature that separates it from something like the DD pro, which doesn't have such a thing.
I’ve been using the T-GT 2 on GT7 for the last few weeks so I found this interesting. After looking more into it, I found the transducer effect works only on GT-Sport (not GT7), hence, I never noticed it.
@@OCRacingNope. See there you're wrong again pal. It absolutely works with GT7 and all future Gran Turismo games.
Are you sure you had the base in GT mode? It's very obvious when it's engaged, tireslip, engine revs, oversteer, road surface noise. It's all represented, and the game feels quite dead without the effects
No question it’s works n Gt7. Down shift quickly and you will feel it. For this reason I went for the t gt2 in stead of the dd pro
You didn’t even mention the transducer on the back..
I can only use the clutch and it becomes the gas button
man loves his 90s "back to our show transition" smh smh
And you don’t?!?!
@@OCRacing OH IM ALWAYS DOWN FOR A GOOD 90S TRANSITION LMAO
@@GlitchyIsNotHere That's what I like to hear.
Its very good so much better than you think
Im saying this cuz i was in an event this day where you could race with this
Yup, certainly better than many would think.
For the price of the TGT 2 you might as well buy a Fanatec.
Well if you live in a country which Fanatec does cover, yes. Otherwise the Fanatec one could cost almost double the price compared with Thrustmaster.
we need review t300rs vs t248
My brother has the T-GT 2, he says the wheel is great, but the issue he has, is that it is expensive to run. It has a 400w motor that uses alot of electric. It baffles me that no you tubers seem to mention this in any reviews that l have seen on the T-GT 2, concidering the extra cost that comes with playing on it. BTW no disrespect intended in my comment towards yourself, in any way OC Racing
Tests show it consumes 60w …. 400w supply is over head power
I have never noticed the effect of my wheel on my power bill..
Its without a doubt a good wheelbase. It just is too expensive for what it offers.
100% agree
it dosent work for rf2 and ams 2
The g29 is actually better. It's amazing and I think that is the wheel that is underrated.
how is the g29 better? Maybe the price to performance ratio is better, but that is about it. From technical perspective the t-gt II is better in pretty much every way and the g29 is still really similar to the g27 which is about 15 years old.
And believe me in my oppinion the thrustmaster wheels are far from perfect especially because of their quickrelease, but still quite a bit better than logitechs wheel offerings.
@@forzafan5776 um no.. with a name like Forza. I won't believe you for 1 second lol. A being how old that wheel is just proves how good it actually is because like you say.. not much has changed. You said it yourself.
@@Adz187 fair enough about the name, doesn't change the other facts though. The thrustmaster can turn faster, with more force (it should be about twice the power) and the motor is smoother.
Also I used the g25 and 27 for the time they were both great wheels, but just for the time. I mean would you want to daily a first generation iphone, just because it was good at the time? I wouldn't nor any other phone from the time.
@@forzafan5776 an apple phone comes out every year lol
Not understanding your point tbf.
I have my opinion which I'm sticking to. You have yours. That's it and nothing has changed.
@@Adz187 would you buy a new phone if it would still use the thechnollogy from 15 years ago. Because that is the case with the g29, it is still pretty much the same the g27 and there were even (two?) iterations of the wheel in between and it is still the same. The only difference is that it got more expensive in the mean time.
But yeah let's leave it at that, I doubt that either one of us will change their oppinion.
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TP3A Pros are a lot better than those pedals, and they're hard to find now!
I don't think Thrustmaster still produce those pedals. Well at least there's a T-LCM
We guys are never satisfied. Just enjoy your game geesh people!
such a good wheelbase but for that price and those pedals just go for the FANATEC GT DD Pro
that's why nobody's buying this
2:37 haha *thats what she said*
Wait no, no no no no no, thats not what she said i sweeaaaar