The price just seems so high compared to what is on the market in the "budget" DD wheel options. Still seems to be a nice upgrade from my t300rs but for $500??
@@Blerpa yeah, thats true. i jumped into sim racing with the t300rs knowing i would want to upgrade within a year or so. it has now been about 9 months of sim racing and am beginning to look at what is on the market. tgt2 has always been a solid option. but i am afraid after another year, that would be something I may want to uprade from yet again. its a tough decision for sure.
@@antoshechka how is the R9 treating you? are you a satisfied customer? There's a local tech shop that stocks some moza products but i just havent quite decided if thats the way I want to go. they dont have console support and i play on PC and PS5. i would still need to keep the t300 for ps5 if i got r9.
@@martymet I feel r9 is stronger of course but in terms of FFB fidelity i couldn't say much because more time got to be spent on adjusting the settings. I bought it last week. I have CS wheel, it's very heavy 2,4 kg so i ordered 600 gramm rim to replace standart one. I also got SR-P pedals, stock brake spring with rubber damper feels not great. I prefer progressive brake feeling of G923. I ordered SR-P Accessory Kit, but not recieved yet. I play on pc only for me lack of console compatability it's not an issue.
I thought so I just bought one and set it up a few days ago and I was sure it said to use them for attaching the wheelbase which was what I did the pedals say not too use to long of a screw so I didn't risk it to try those with the pedals I was just lucky my stand has metal plates for holding the pedals until I get the right length screws
Got the Logitech G-Pro today and been comparing it with my T-GT2 and man has It's made me realise just what damn good wheel the T-GT2 is; the FF is practically the same as DD except with more mechanical roughness, but it seriously gives the DD a run for the money and that's without trying the transducer trueforce. The build quality of the wheel and base is exceptional, solid and all the buttons top quality and feel great, ....the downside is the notchy-ness which I personally can't stand and there's a whine off the mechanism that I won't miss. If someone isn't sensitive to the notches and slight whine then it's a fantastic wheel if grabbed for a discount.
Literally just did the same upgrade this week and my first impression of the G-Pro was “damn, the T-GT was pretty good.” And on top of that, it’s much more “set it and forget it.” In Assetto Corsa it just feels great with just about any car. The DD wheel needs individual tweaks to feel remotely good, massive profile shifts between games etc. I’m going to miss that thing.
@@KirkwoodImaging how do you guys feel about the G Pro compared to the TGT after spending more time with it and how do you feel about the True Force vs the transducer on the TGT? I’m currently on a T300 and trying to decide if I want a TGT2 or a G Pro. Also curious if the transducer on the TGT2 is working on more than just Gran Turismo these days?
Transducer in the T-GT is still a Gran Turismo only feature after all of this time. I'd highly recommend the G Pro over the T-GT. TrueForce is vastly superior to the transducer in the T-GT.@@Pooz30
Transducer only works in Gran Turismo, and it's a huge missed opportunity for that wheel. I was hoping somebody would hack it to allow it to work with Sim Hub but that never came to pass. G Pro is incredible compared to the TGT2, I'd save up the extra money. The pedals are much better than the T-LCM as well. @@Pooz30
USE THE T-LCM WITH GT7 IMMEDIATELY!!! The pedals VIBRATE!!!!!! The base knows what pedals are connected to it! When in GT mode and T-LCM connected, the light blinks 10 times. As well, the transducer only works with GT 7 (or Sport). When driving a car with a big V8 slowly cruising, you will feel it in the entire rig!!! In the GT7 Options menu, the Vibration section has the DFB transducer adjustment. Frankly, 150 isn’t high enough for me! 🍻
hell im getting location based vibrations in my rig with the logi pro on the original AC and thats not even using true force.. the details are so specific in the ffb thats its conducted to different areas of my rig that correspond to the car lol
How did it not come with bolts? It’s supposed to include the bolts to hard mount with special washers that are rubber coated to help transfer the vibrations from the transducer on the back.
I’ve heard people say belt is less harsh than DD and much better for rally sims. I’m going with Thrustmaster, mostly because Fanatec seem like a terrible company to deal with. I’ll go TGT2 now and in a few years may go with one of their DD bases, once available on console.
Got the tgt-2 because compared to the csl dd it was much more accessible , the dd pro to my country will require me to pay a premium of 400 dollars more . With regards to that can you post a video showing the best setting fr the Tgt 2 set up on Asseto corsa . Thank you Regards
I've had T150 RS Pro, T300 RS GT (I still have it as a backup wheel) and the T-GTII - I bought just the servo base and added to it the TM Open Wheel I already had and TLC-M pedals. I definitely feel the difference with the T300, actually the thing I like less are the TLC-Ms. I'm pondering if going the DD route, but a few thoughts went in there: the TM 818 was a let down, not much for the price of the servo base per se but because of the new quick release; it is good a person can retain the old wheels with just the adaptor, but that flimsy and plasticky new QR does not look solid enough to me. Also, not going to blindly buy (pre-order, actually) a 650 euro product without watching a few reviews before. Other parts in the thought process: spending for a 5NM DD does not feel right. FFB and experience is not given only by NM sheer numbers, I do agree, but there's no much point to either downgrade or stay in the same tier of forces, so no simple Fanatec CSL DD or GT DD... with the added issue that the 349 and 449 euro solo servo bases have been sold out since half a year, at least in Europe, and Fanatec is not at all catching up with the production. Add that to Fanatec so-and-so reputation for warranty and aftersale service and you have either a recipe for disaster or a long wait with no ending in sight. With that said I'm eyeing up to January to jump ship to Simagic with an Alpha Mini and FX rim. Pedals to be decided yet, there's plenty of models in the market, but I can make do for a bit with the TLC-M by USB. I'm mildly interested in the Cammus pedals and the claim in some reviews that they feel, for once, like a real car pedals. So, the TG-T2 is a wonderful wheel at its price range if one get a used bundle or just the servo and adds an already existing TM setup rims and pedals. Brand new is a more difficult proposal, only reason people can be lured into it is that it is more easily available at big electronic stores (compared to imported Cammus, Moza or even Simagic) and that Fanatec entry level DD is eternally out of stock.
I was going to buy tgt2 aswell but after seeing so many videos and doing some research i came to the conclusion that it wasnt worth buying because you can get a good dd for the same price, so i done more research and came to conclusion moza r9 is the best for the money, 400 quid base, 130 es steering, and 140 cell load pedals so ive ordered these, all from different retailers
Also Fanatec its going under and buying one of their wheels is a risk even if you order actually gets filled out if something happens to the wheel due to defects or some shit like that your SOL
I had a CSW 2.5 before upgrading to a Simucube. Eventually sold that, now looking to get into it again. I thought the 2.5 was great, how does this compare?
TGT-2 should be on par with the build quality and performance. The csw2.5 may have a bit better performance tho just due to the all aluminum base allowing for a better belt/pulley system with more torque I would assume. The tgt2 I believe has about 6.2nm of peak torque. Where the csw2.5 has 8nm. And the fanatecs ecosystem to pair with when thinking of other wheels and ease of switching between them.
I'm also looking for a new set. Wanna get the Fanatec DD Pro but it's sold out all the time. Maybe I'll wait for the new Trustmaster DD... Or buying just the TGT base and some TLCM's.. Hm.. I don't know man 😐
That new 1000 dollar thrustmaster dd wheel you showed looked great , my next upgrade 818 I do love that shaker , on back of the wheel , im a sucker for that stuff. Atmosphere baby
Does not make much sense at that price when you can get dd for even less nowadays that dont look like plastic toys. Also its not strongest non direct drive wheel pretty sure its 6nm compared to my clubsport 2.5 8nm that was cheaper then this thing although it is discontinued now.
Had 2 TGT2 Wheels in about less than 2 months, both returned for issues , very beautiful and responsive wheel but in my expirience extremely unreliable.
Fanatec is going bankrupt that is a major consideration also getting the bottom of the line of anything is really bad advice , its better to get the lower brands best product then the best brands cheapest product , there is no way the Fanatec will hold up to Thrustmasters TGT 2 , DD is not all that and bag a chips .
@@abwatson100 I just got the TS-PC and the only difference is the TGT 2 has more buttons and a special feature which is only useful if you have a PlayStation . The motor is the same everything , for that matter you could get the TGT 2 wheel and put in on the TS-PC . The wheel is great plenty of FF anymore and it would throw me off my chair , lol
Have one with TLCM pedals, no regrets, work great with GT7
Ya Just bought the T-LCM pedals , the the break is stiffer then I like but they are extremely responsive
The price just seems so high compared to what is on the market in the "budget" DD wheel options. Still seems to be a nice upgrade from my t300rs but for $500??
You could still sell the T300 to recoup some money for the T-GT2, though.
@@Blerpa yeah, thats true. i jumped into sim racing with the t300rs knowing i would want to upgrade within a year or so. it has now been about 9 months of sim racing and am beginning to look at what is on the market. tgt2 has always been a solid option. but i am afraid after another year, that would be something I may want to uprade from yet again. its a tough decision for sure.
I upgraded from Thrustmaster t300 to Moza r9
@@antoshechka how is the R9 treating you? are you a satisfied customer? There's a local tech shop that stocks some moza products but i just havent quite decided if thats the way I want to go. they dont have console support and i play on PC and PS5. i would still need to keep the t300 for ps5 if i got r9.
@@martymet I feel r9 is stronger of course but in terms of FFB fidelity i couldn't say much because more time got to be spent on adjusting the settings. I bought it last week. I have CS wheel, it's very heavy 2,4 kg so i ordered 600 gramm rim to replace standart one. I also got SR-P pedals, stock brake spring with rubber damper feels not great. I prefer progressive brake feeling of G923. I ordered SR-P Accessory Kit, but not recieved yet. I play on pc only for me lack of console compatability it's not an issue.
If you look in the manual the two supplied screws and washers are supposed to be used for mounting the wheel base to a stand
I thought so I just bought one and set it up a few days ago and I was sure it said to use them for attaching the wheelbase which was what I did the pedals say not too use to long of a screw so I didn't risk it to try those with the pedals I was just lucky my stand has metal plates for holding the pedals until I get the right length screws
@@weplayvrgames Yep, its in the manual
So its this or the Fanatec DD PRO I have the ps5 and series x which would you recommend as a beginner please
Got the Logitech G-Pro today and been comparing it with my T-GT2 and man has It's made me realise just what damn good wheel the T-GT2 is; the FF is practically the same as DD except with more mechanical roughness, but it seriously gives the DD a run for the money and that's without trying the transducer trueforce. The build quality of the wheel and base is exceptional, solid and all the buttons top quality and feel great, ....the downside is the notchy-ness which I personally can't stand and there's a whine off the mechanism that I won't miss. If someone isn't sensitive to the notches and slight whine then it's a fantastic wheel if grabbed for a discount.
Literally just did the same upgrade this week and my first impression of the G-Pro was “damn, the T-GT was pretty good.” And on top of that, it’s much more “set it and forget it.” In Assetto Corsa it just feels great with just about any car. The DD wheel needs individual tweaks to feel remotely good, massive profile shifts between games etc. I’m going to miss that thing.
@@KirkwoodImaging how do you guys feel about the G Pro compared to the TGT after spending more time with it and how do you feel about the True Force vs the transducer on the TGT?
I’m currently on a T300 and trying to decide if I want a TGT2 or a G Pro.
Also curious if the transducer on the TGT2 is working on more than just Gran Turismo these days?
Transducer in the T-GT is still a Gran Turismo only feature after all of this time.
I'd highly recommend the G Pro over the T-GT. TrueForce is vastly superior to the transducer in the T-GT.@@Pooz30
currently got a g923 and looking for upgrade play ps5 you rekon the tg2 with some lcm pedels would be worth it in 2024?
Transducer only works in Gran Turismo, and it's a huge missed opportunity for that wheel. I was hoping somebody would hack it to allow it to work with Sim Hub but that never came to pass.
G Pro is incredible compared to the TGT2, I'd save up the extra money. The pedals are much better than the T-LCM as well. @@Pooz30
USE THE T-LCM WITH GT7 IMMEDIATELY!!! The pedals VIBRATE!!!!!!
The base knows what pedals are connected to it! When in GT mode and T-LCM connected, the light blinks 10 times. As well, the transducer only works with GT 7 (or Sport).
When driving a car with a big V8 slowly cruising, you will feel it in the entire rig!!!
In the GT7 Options menu, the Vibration section has the DFB transducer adjustment. Frankly, 150 isn’t high enough for me!
🍻
The rubber on the washers help transfer the vibrations. I got more washers like that and used it to mount the pedals as well.
hell im getting location based vibrations in my rig with the logi pro on the original AC and thats not even using true force.. the details are so specific in the ffb thats its conducted to different areas of my rig that correspond to the car lol
Did you turn up the FFB in the driver and game? I run 100 percent in both and its very strong
Nice work Sean !
How did it not come with bolts? It’s supposed to include the bolts to hard mount with special washers that are rubber coated to help transfer the vibrations from the transducer on the back.
The thrustmaster t gt 2 is 8 delivers 8Nm and the Moza only delivers 5. Am I right?
14:17 .. I'd have to disagree.....the "ultimate" gran turismo wheel has to be the Logitech G pro (trueforce - DD)
I’ve heard people say belt is less harsh than DD and much better for rally sims. I’m going with Thrustmaster, mostly because Fanatec seem like a terrible company to deal with. I’ll go TGT2 now and in a few years may go with one of their DD bases, once available on console.
Got the tgt-2 because compared to the csl dd it was much more accessible , the dd pro to my country will require me to pay a premium of 400 dollars more .
With regards to that can you post a video showing the best setting fr the Tgt 2 set up on Asseto corsa .
Thank you
Regards
I've had T150 RS Pro, T300 RS GT (I still have it as a backup wheel) and the T-GTII - I bought just the servo base and added to it the TM Open Wheel I already had and TLC-M pedals.
I definitely feel the difference with the T300, actually the thing I like less are the TLC-Ms.
I'm pondering if going the DD route, but a few thoughts went in there: the TM 818 was a let down, not much for the price of the servo base per se but because of the new quick release; it is good a person can retain the old wheels with just the adaptor, but that flimsy and plasticky new QR does not look solid enough to me.
Also, not going to blindly buy (pre-order, actually) a 650 euro product without watching a few reviews before.
Other parts in the thought process: spending for a 5NM DD does not feel right. FFB and experience is not given only by NM sheer numbers, I do agree, but there's no much point to either downgrade or stay in the same tier of forces, so no simple Fanatec CSL DD or GT DD... with the added issue that the 349 and 449 euro solo servo bases have been sold out since half a year, at least in Europe, and Fanatec is not at all catching up with the production.
Add that to Fanatec so-and-so reputation for warranty and aftersale service and you have either a recipe for disaster or a long wait with no ending in sight.
With that said I'm eyeing up to January to jump ship to Simagic with an Alpha Mini and FX rim.
Pedals to be decided yet, there's plenty of models in the market, but I can make do for a bit with the TLC-M by USB.
I'm mildly interested in the Cammus pedals and the claim in some reviews that they feel, for once, like a real car pedals.
So, the TG-T2 is a wonderful wheel at its price range if one get a used bundle or just the servo and adds an already existing TM setup rims and pedals.
Brand new is a more difficult proposal, only reason people can be lured into it is that it is more easily available at big electronic stores (compared to imported Cammus, Moza or even Simagic) and that Fanatec entry level DD is eternally out of stock.
I was going to buy tgt2 aswell but after seeing so many videos and doing some research i came to the conclusion that it wasnt worth buying because you can get a good dd for the same price, so i done more research and came to conclusion moza r9 is the best for the money, 400 quid base, 130 es steering, and 140 cell load pedals so ive ordered these, all from different retailers
hi, the Moza is not for PS5 right? only for pc or...?@@kaizasoze3954
Also Fanatec its going under and buying one of their wheels is a risk even if you order actually gets filled out if something happens to the wheel due to defects or some shit like that your SOL
Also is it really under 6nm? It’s supposedly the same motor as the tspc and tsxw, which is 6.2 nm
Thanks 👍
I am on Day 3 with my TGT2 :)
How is it now? Any overheating issues like the t300?
@@aspectic6227 no overheating, it is well ventilated and easy to blow out or vacuum out dust.
@@TheDabbinDave ooooo. I'm looking to buying the servo base only and use my T300 rim for it sometime this year or next year
How does this compare against a CSL Elite v1.1? Better or worse than the Elite?
I had a CSW 2.5 before upgrading to a Simucube. Eventually sold that, now looking to get into it again. I thought the 2.5 was great, how does this compare?
TGT-2 should be on par with the build quality and performance. The csw2.5 may have a bit better performance tho just due to the all aluminum base allowing for a better belt/pulley system with more torque I would assume. The tgt2 I believe has about 6.2nm of peak torque. Where the csw2.5 has 8nm. And the fanatecs ecosystem to pair with when thinking of other wheels and ease of switching between them.
I'm also looking for a new set. Wanna get the Fanatec DD Pro but it's sold out all the time. Maybe I'll wait for the new Trustmaster DD... Or buying just the TGT base and some TLCM's.. Hm.. I don't know man 😐
I see what u did now, those bolts aren’t for the pedals lol. I just confirmed in the manual those are for the base.
This or the TS-PC Racer for PC simulations only?
If you're only going to be using a PC, I'd go with a small DD wheel like Moza or Fanatec. They are in the same price range.
So THIS is where youve been all this time!
That new 1000 dollar thrustmaster dd wheel you showed looked great , my next upgrade 818
I do love that shaker , on back of the wheel , im a sucker for that stuff.
Atmosphere baby
Upgrade to fanitech V3 pedals next.
Does not make much sense at that price when you can get dd for even less nowadays that dont look like plastic toys. Also its not strongest non direct drive wheel pretty sure its 6nm compared to my clubsport 2.5 8nm that was cheaper then this thing although it is discontinued now.
Had 2 TGT2 Wheels in about less than 2 months, both returned for issues , very beautiful and responsive wheel but in my expirience extremely unreliable.
Fanatec is going bankrupt that is a major consideration also getting the bottom of the line of anything is really bad advice , its better to get the lower brands best product then the best brands cheapest product , there is no way the Fanatec will hold up to Thrustmasters TGT 2 , DD is not all that and bag a chips .
Exactly why im considering this
@@abwatson100 I just got the TS-PC and the only difference is the TGT 2 has more buttons and a special feature which is only useful if you have a PlayStation . The motor is the same everything , for that matter you could get the TGT 2 wheel and put in on the TS-PC . The wheel is great plenty of FF anymore and it would throw me off my chair , lol
Get ouuta here with this old belt crap ;)
Give me t818 DD review man :D