T300 rs gt, th8s shifter, and a cheap cockpit, so around 680 dollars and if you want the sparco handbrake with the mount it would be around 1080 dollars with all of that
second hand g29, for a start, DD pro with clubsport RS and Mclaren v2, fanatec shifter, and handbrake to go all out Clubsport DD+ for the next upgrade, after buying DD
I recently upgraded to a full Simagic setup including the new hydraulic handbrake that's about to release (it'll be here friday). You need a special piece of hardware called a Sigma Cortex converter to use Simagic hardware on PS4 and PS5. This is an upgrade I purchased specifically for PC racing and drifting but it's nice to have at least one processional quality manufacturer that is available on PS5 without dropping an extra $250 on the licensing, I could care less if Sony makes money off the hardware, I'm pissed I spent $500 on a Thrustmaster T248, and absolute rip-off with the quality for that price. Unfortunately, I think that this licensing cost is why PS5 wont be getting any more racing games or much more racing hardware, the cost to buy in is too high when you can get a PSVR for nearly the same cost.
Thanks for not just reviewing the products but also saying even just a little about the companies that make them. I saw ur fanatec ceo vid, after learning of their shipping issues. Thanks for looking out for the consumers and not just pleasing the companies.
I recently upgraded from a G29 to a T300RS GT and just got the TLCM pedals, which I'm still trying to find the best spring configuration for. For anyone starting out or wanting to test the waters without spending too much, you can't go wrong with a G29. Had mine for 5 years and it got me to A+ on Gran Turismo. Only issue is the potentiometers need cleaning from time to time, which is a very easy job.
@@oppenheimer11 A+ is driver skill rating for online racers on Gran Turismo. D rated driver being the lowest and A+ being the highest. The T300RS is a good wheel and has plenty of upgrade options.
@@slap2870huh? Are you talking about the Fanatec DD? Why would you get a Logitech Pro wheel with that? I’m looking to get my first wheel for GT7. Wondering if I should get a DD or just a logitech G923 or Thrustmaster
Great video, as always. Just my perspective, as an owner of TWO G29s, a Fanatecc DD Pro (8nm, LC), and a Logitech G Pro: agreed, the G29 (or Thrustmaster equivalent) is great value, and did me well for two years, before I upgraded to a DD Pro. I loved the DD Pro, but your comments about the quick release are spot on. Mine clicks under heavy load, and has disconnected a few times. Shyte engineering. That Fanatec have now released updated versions only now speaks to their relationship with customers. When my DD Pro arrived, it had a defective throttle pedal. To say that Fanatec support is incompetent is understating things. Which leads me to the G Pro. Your comments about size, cost, and ecosystem are strong, valid points. However, I ordered a G Pro for my main rig because I didn't want to wait for my DD Pro to inevitably fail at some point (the pedals already had). I could not be happier. The implementation of True Force is astounding. Another main reason to buy Logitech, for me, was the quality of construction and reliability. Oh, why so many wheels? I have two separate rigs, but my collection would no doubt be much smaller that many of you. Oh, why so many wheels? I have two separate rigs
@jamus1217 without a doubt. I recently reinstalled my DD Pro and ran a few races. Chalk and cheese. This channel has a review simracing604 and Boosted Media, too
@@danielshallberg9266 Logitech G Pro for mine. Their products have a proven track record, and their after-sales support is far better. Not to mention the issues that Fanatec have with delivery ...
@@supercededmanHey man I appreciate all the feedback you’ve provided, very helpful! I just recently got Grand Turismo 7 and plan on using PS VR2 to play it. What wheel would you recommend for me? I would like something that’s good, durable, and as real as possible. Thanks in advance your your help!
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I went with the DD pro. I had a G25 in the past and some other ancient logitech wheels (talking like 20yrs+ ago). DD Pro is kind of in a sweet spot for price and usability. Works with PC and PS, it's a DD, and has plenty of expandability options with wheels and pedals.
I have to agree, if you want to spend as little as possible, a used G29 will suffice, but if you want to get more enjoyment from sim racing, the T300 is the real entry point, Logitech wheels have no ecosystem, and the upgrade bug will bite you sooner or later, and TM has a whole ecosystem to back you up at least
I just started sim racing a year ago. I’m finally getting fast with my G29 pretty soon I’m ready to upgrade one day I’ll get a DD wheel but next I thing ima get is the T300 RS
I recently upgraded from T248, to Logitech pro wheel. and the feeling is incredible. Pedals are way much better and let you do better control over break and acceleration control. And the wheel itself when I set it up to 11Nm I was able to feel every single detail on the track in Gt7.
I have a Thrustmaster T300 and it was a reliable wheel. It's the perfect entry point for the sim racing. I didn't experience a heat issue as you mentioned, but I would recommend having a domestic electric fan to cool both the wheel (and yourself) when playing. I'm eyeing that Fanatec DD wheel but I'm giving up due to the difficulty of finding it available for purchase.
I as well has been using the T300RS, ive bought it probably almost 9-10 yrs ago. Works great, never had the over heating either. Plus its still for sale for 3-400. Just upgraded to TLCM pedals and an F1 wheel. Really a great base unless you want a DD.
I enjoy my G923 with a MVH load cell upgrade on the brake. Only driving GT7 and F23 but this combo works very well. Am considering the G Pro wheelbase.
I think you are the most transparent and interesting youtuber on the simrscing landscape. I have started with a t150 4 years ago, then upgraded the pedals to a TLCM and never felt the need to change. If you want to be fast, the pedals will be the most important piece to upgrade but i have been always tempted to try the t300 servo just to be able to switch wheels. In my opinion, if you play on PS spending over 1k€ for a DD is not worth it because not many games have an advanced feedback to live up to the expecations.
I tried to buy the T3 Twothousand with the Ferrari wheel set also and they only sent me the server base so I sent it back and I never bought another one. I still have a logitech G923 sitting in the closet that I don’t even use.
I've just got myself g29 with a racing frame and seat. But my times are 6 seconds of my times with a controller. Would I be correct in saying that my times will get better with the more I play ?
I am getting my T300 RS GT today. I am a new sim racer and I do not want to dive into it too crazy, though I could acquire better direct driver versions. Even got a foldable seat (Playseat Challenger X) and should soon get the PSVR 2. Getting into sim racing is not cheap. PS5 - £475 Playseat Challenger X - £240 T300 RS GT wheel - £300 PSVR 2 - £530 Not counting extra remotes (£65), charger (£25) and games (like Gran Turismo 7 - £62). Almost £1750 just to begin. So, I am not investing heavy in any top notch sim racing equipment yet.
no offense but just get a wheel and pedals and start setting competitive times, forget the seat and psvr if you would like to get to a certain level of skill
I used a T-150 while I was figuring out if GT7 was worth it, and (coming from a TS-XW on my PC) was very surprised how good it was. It also worked great for AC on PS4. Get a T150 and a PS4 and you have an outstanding inexpensive driving sim. I later upgraded to PS5 and a DD pro but TBH I passed all the license tests using that little T150 and I still miss it. It was a great little wheel.
Best belt drive for PS4/5 is the Thrustmaster TGT2 with T-CLM pedal set .I moved up to DD and went for a Logitech G-Pro and pedal set .£1250 may be a bit pricey but it's perfect and worth every penny IMO.You'll need an aluminium cockpit and GT Omega are easily the best value .My prime was under £700 incl seat .
As someone who’s trying to get into sim racing but doesn’t want cheap equipment, fanatec really gets my attention but so many bad reviews and I’m in U.S. so to be so far away and spend that kinda money scares me especially if something isn’t working but I love the huge eco system. Logitech pro seems like a viable option, while pricy the downside is no eco system like an upgraded shifter.. feels like it’s a loose loose one way or the other.
I’m strongly considering switching back to fanetec with the club sport DD+ from the Logitech G Pro. I love the base but dislike the pedals and tired of waiting for Logitech ecosystem. Will u be doing a review for the Club sport DD+. Any info on it specifically with console would really help. Love ur content and thank u for all the hard work
Pretty solid video yet I feel like picking a point of contention since I’m bought in on the Logitech Pro wheel & pedals! You didn’t really speak to the fact that the logi pro in PS edition is also PC compatible, nothing about the fact it has a pretty solid Wheel QD that’s better then Fanatec unless you pay extra for the just released QR2 and good luck getting that shipped quickly ! As for the pro pedals your criticism about price might be a continental issue since at $350 that’s a lot for what they are. In the USA when buying wheel and pedals together Logitech gives you an automatic discount that basically brings the pedals down to about $260 dollars and if you have other discount codes they will stack ontop of their bundle discount. At that price and with what’s included they compare far more favorably against even the CSL elites in my opinion and use. Also failed to mention if you get a Fanatec PS compatible base and decide to buy the club sport pedals you must have a laptop to update their firmware before they will work with any of their PS bases … Logitech Pro is full on plug and play albeit to firmware update you must get a PC/MAC access. Although in my experience logitechs usually come with the latest firmware on newer products, old stock not so much.
Fanatec needs to drop the price of the DD pro and make it more available in Canada. I want the game-specific switches so bad but the will is still unobtainium for plebs like me.
After almost three years with the T300, and a couple of months with the Tlcm, just pulled the plug on the GT DD Pro and the Elite V2 pedals, with the Mclaren Gt3 wheel as well since I play on xbox too. Lets hope it doesn't take too much to arrive.
@@josephobuck5409, the GT DD Pro is a substancial step forward. Maybe not in terms of strenght (mainly because I use the ff at 5 in GT7) but in terms of how smooth and detailed the force feedback is. The pedals are way better than the Tlcm as well, I adapted easily to them.
I have the exact same Thrustmaster setup as you had, and I'm getting the exact same Fanatec setup as you have now. I am borrowing the GT DD Pro 8nm from a friend at the moment, to test how it feels. And imo it's pretty strong and detailed. He has the ClubSport V3 inverted pedals though. But I'm ordering the Elite V2 for myself. Are you still happy with your Elite v2 pedals and your GT DD pro 8nm? Any complaints at all, or smooth sailing? (or driving rather) 😂
Have thrustmaster t150 and im more than satisfied i love it. Brings gt7 on psvr2 to a whole new level. Ive never even tried without. I bought it same day i bought gt7
The thing that sucks with the newer wheels is you can't use the left pedal as the brake like I did with my g27. It felt more comfortable and let my hips relax so i could game longer.
I love my DD Pro with boost kit and load cell and McLaren wheel. It was worth the extra money to me. I came from a T150. I was blown away by the difference between the two.
How long did it take you to actually get your setup from the date you ordered? I’m wondering because I’m starting to hear a lot of negative about Fanatec not shipping orders while people have spent over $1k with them
Do not buy the Turtle Beach Wheel for X-Box ! The Display does nor work with any X-Box Game, Non of them, You would think it would as dissplayed in their ad ! $700. bucks for half the functions !
I'm thinking of getting the T300 RS as my first wheel but the overheating issue really holds me back. This model was released in 2014 and Thrustmaster to this day couldn't bother to address the issue. They also don't provide official warranty here in Brazil so we're stuck with either the store provided warranty or just luck. I was even thinking of getting one of the more 'affordable' DD wheels but since none of the manufacturers have official retailers here, they end up costing pretty much double the price of the T300 RS. It's really frustrating.
If only the overheating holds you back from buying a t300 es dont worry. Theres a forced fan mode what you can switch on. I used one like this for 5 years straight every day. Also 2-3 hours races. No issues at all. Never... Nothing.
@@badboykiller9926 I appreciate the tip but the design flaw is still inexcusable. Imagine if NVidia goes: “Hey guys here’s our brand new RTX 5080, it has a few overheating issues so make sure to crank the fan speeds all the way to 100% so it doesn’t overheat and then thermal throttle okay?” Imagine the backlash. Anyway, I’ll buy one and see what happens for a week.
Hi! I’m starting up racing on F1 23 on PS5. Looking for budget wheel. Will the Thrustmaster T80 work on PS5 or do I need to look at the T150 or the T128? Potentially looking at upgrading to the Logitech GW29?
Bonjour à tous, j'utilise depuis quelques années 1G29 qui a 2700 heures d'utilisation,je suis sidéré de solidité de ce matériel, pourtant je ne le ménage pas du tout.rapport, qualité et prix imbattable, seul souci,ai démonté 10 fois les potentiomètre du pédalier pour les nettoyer.important la le S.A.V est sérieux,ce n'est pas le cas d'autres Marques bien plus chère.😻
Great video! Thank you very much. I use a Thruthmaster T300 GT on a PS5 and mainly play ACC, GT7 and EA WRC. I was thinking of switching to a Logitech G Pro. It's expensive but the feedback I've seen is that it gives a very good feel in ACC and GT7, even though it's pedals are not the best, nor does it have an ecosystem. The new CS DD+ from Fanatec scares me because of Fanatec's bad customer service in case there is a problem. You think it's really not worth it to trade the T300 GT for the Log. G Pro?
It's not that fanatec has bad customer service it's that their support department is located in Germany so if you're anywhere outside of Europe it's takes longer to get in touch with them and get service done luckily for me they have a US based service warehouse so I didn't have to pay for shipping when I had to get a replacement product
Logitech wheels are honestly only good for a used market value. Example. 929 is $400 cdn and shifter is 80$. I got both seperatky on FB for 250 total. I spent another 80$ on a stand thats on amazon for 180$. So i have the basics of everything but a dedicated seat. (Use my gaming chair) Once you spent that $400 on a wheel you might aswell spend that little bit for a DD wheel. Getting an entry DD for 500$ cdn + shipping ect is far superior for the $$ value
Which wheel would be good for Console PS5 for Assetto Corsa Competizione ? Will these wheels work as good on other racing games or are they the best for Gran Turismo only?
Im looking to upgrade and i wanted to know if there was any driving wheel with working analog sticks preferably the right analog stick for ps5 so i can change my camera angles without switching to my controller. Thats what i need to do with the t80 Thrustmaster. New to driving wheels since i was too poor as a kid.
I think for me with a PS5 in Canada the Fanatec delivery is bad, price exchange and duty are off the charts, long waits in customs also. From a 3nd party the fanatec is 2 grand Canadian $, just for the base and wheel, pedals are extra. YIKES ! The Logitech pro in Canada is the same with taxes its 1900 $, too much. I wish Moza would come out with a PS5 version but i contacted them and they said not for a year or so.
uhhh Fanatec or logitech, as a owner of a gt-I I can affirm that price quality is a big issue. if you go for second hand and want a ecosystem with all perks and affordable , yes Thrustmaster is okay , will come with a list of buts.
Obrigado mais uma vez pelos teus videos! Bom ver um Tuga a ter sucesso!! Now, until the DD+ is released in a Bundle, I want to make my comeback in GT7 with budget wheel. I'm between the T300(used) and the Logitech G923/G29(both used). And is it worth the extra bucks for the G923 over the G29 for the TRUE FORCE?
@@Theonetruedarklord O t300 foi o meu 2º volante há 3 ou 4 anos atrás, por isso já conhecia e considero bastante bom. Depois tive o DD Pro, bem melhor que o t300, que acabei por vender por falta de tempo.
I went from T-GT2 to a G923 because I only play GT7, the updated force feedback in that game is so bad that I'm not able to feel most of the kerb in game without trueforce (no , you don't get that kerb feedback on T-GT2 with T-DFB and the official licenced fanatec gt dd pro, shocking)
I only play gt7 and I have a G923 I was going to upgrade to something way better like tgt or fanatec are you telling me not to because GT7 isn’t the game for these wheels?
@@josephobuck5409 currently the wheel from Logitech with truforce technology are the best optimized wheels for the game, I heard that fanatec is doing something similar with the new direct drive base called fullforce but it's already couple month after launch still that feature is nowhere to be seen
Im looking at getting a t300 base with the sf1000 Ferrari race wheel for f1, I predominantly play f1 23 and will be getting 24 when its out, is this a good setup?
@@MrPaulbogart I did yes! Absolutely love the setup, got the t300 second hand for half the market price and good condition and a new sf1000, best wheel I’ve used
I am going to buy the g29 wheel for my boyfriend for Christmas. Does anyone know what wheel stand is nice to use for this? Theres so many and so many mixed reviews.
The Fanatec DD Gt7 wheel is junk, don’t get it, you WILL break it, if you can withstand the creaks and pops long enough of the garbage connector. Save yourself the headache and get something like the flat bottom BMW wheel, trust my personal experience here. Also I recommend leather over alcantara because most people won’t properly care for the alcantara. Also don’t waste time with 5nm, 8nm minimum, or the new 12nm.
All the F1 games, Gran Turismo Sport, GT7, ACC, Wreckfest, Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, These are just from experience of playing them, I'm pretty sure a few others will also. (Edit) Nascar games like Heat 5 plus various rally games.
@@randomcallsignso I’m basically down to deciding between G920/923, TX, Moza R3 bundle, Fanatec CSL DD. For some reason the TX is the most expensive at $500
I went with the Fanatec DD Pro for maximum compatibility. The Playstation compatibility is in the wheelbase, then the Xbox compatibility is in the swappable wheel itself, so you can get something compatible with everything. Pricey tho.
T300 is a worthless wheel, in my opinion. Overheats in a view laps depending on the track. Regardless of the climate. I live in the Netherlands, and overheating is always a problem. Horrible wheel!
@@josephobuck5409 i live in the Arctic, i can not afford nothing. As we have the highest price in the stores. I've always wanted a race seat with the G93. With stick shift.
This guy hasn’t a clue guys as the Logitech G923 is NOT XBOX Compatible at all! The Logitech G923 will ONLY work on the PS4/PS5 guys! I know that because I bought the Logitech G923 Steering Wheel & Gear Shifter for my PS4 & PS5 Systems guys!
@@randomcallsign No, there’s not a Logitech G923 that’s compatible with the XBOX, but there is an adapter that can make it compatible with the XBOX tho bud! The Logitech that actually is made for the XBOX is the Logitech G23 bud!
The best way to Sim Race, is not on a Playstation. You know it, I know it. GT 7 is not worth the console or ps plus subscription when all this other brilliant software on PC exists. Its falling to obscurity quickly & quietly.
And again like I said I have a top spec PC but there is nothing like GT7+PSVR2 on my PC. I tried it with quest 2 and it's not even close. Don't get me wrong I love my PC but to box everyone into PC saying nothing else is worth considering is incorrect to say the least
@@rickflare6893 Having your FFB maxed out out in the game is the issue. That makes the wheel output at full torque for every single bump you run over, which A) is not how it's supposed to work and B) makes all detail disappear. You're not supposed to have all forces always at maximum, you're supposed to have a setting allowing small bumps and light turns to feel light, and huge G's to feel strong. With FFB at max everything is just too strong, doesn't make sense and stresses the motor for no reason. It's like boosting all bass to 400% on a music track and then wondering why the sound clips and crackles constantly. For info, with the T300 the recommended FFB strengh in GT7 to avoid going over what the wheel can output seems to be 4.
@@Totone56 Here’s the thing though, the wheel didn’t seem l that powerful . I don’t if I had it maxed completely. The thrustmaster gives no decent feedback at low power. I could never tell my tires where on the limitation low powe. I have the fanatec on 8nm and I still find it to be weak when it comes to responding to bumps. I think I need at nice 13 nm because they can simulate real g’s thanks to the higher slew rate.
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What are your recommendations?
T300 rs gt, th8s shifter, and a cheap cockpit, so around 680 dollars and if you want the sparco handbrake with the mount it would be around 1080 dollars with all of that
second hand g29, for a start,
DD pro with clubsport RS and Mclaren v2, fanatec shifter, and handbrake to go all out
Clubsport DD+ for the next upgrade, after buying DD
I recently upgraded to a full Simagic setup including the new hydraulic handbrake that's about to release (it'll be here friday). You need a special piece of hardware called a Sigma Cortex converter to use Simagic hardware on PS4 and PS5. This is an upgrade I purchased specifically for PC racing and drifting but it's nice to have at least one processional quality manufacturer that is available on PS5 without dropping an extra $250 on the licensing, I could care less if Sony makes money off the hardware, I'm pissed I spent $500 on a Thrustmaster T248, and absolute rip-off with the quality for that price. Unfortunately, I think that this licensing cost is why PS5 wont be getting any more racing games or much more racing hardware, the cost to buy in is too high when you can get a PSVR for nearly the same cost.
@@notnowboi7795 Is Thrustmaster t300 RS GT edition compatible with ps5?
@@kronixfn8760 ps5 and pc
Thanks for not just reviewing the products but also saying even just a little about the companies that make them. I saw ur fanatec ceo vid, after learning of their shipping issues. Thanks for looking out for the consumers and not just pleasing the companies.
thats what I do. I dont please companies.
Like another poster said, its RC's transparency which is most valuable. He's a top-tier racer, too, so has to be listened to.
I recently upgraded from a G29 to a T300RS GT and just got the TLCM pedals, which I'm still trying to find the best spring configuration for. For anyone starting out or wanting to test the waters without spending too much, you can't go wrong with a G29. Had mine for 5 years and it got me to A+ on Gran Turismo. Only issue is the potentiometers need cleaning from time to time, which is a very easy job.
To those who are looking for confirmation that the G29 is a great bit of kit, this post is evidence. Congratulations on reaching A+
Can you tell me what a G29 is please?
@@Michaelmarkss Logitech wheel and pedals.
G923 competive enough to get A+ driver?
@@oppenheimer11 A+ is driver skill rating for online racers on Gran Turismo. D rated driver being the lowest and A+ being the highest. The T300RS is a good wheel and has plenty of upgrade options.
With regards to dd pro on console...... Massive difference from my t300 to DD pro in ACC.... Massive. Game changer.
I went from a g29 to the gt dd pro it's a night and day difference, like going from a power wheels electric toy car to a gas powered go kart
Get dd pro 5nm
Logitech pro wheel 11nm do the math
@@slap2870wait what
@@slap2870huh? Are you talking about the Fanatec DD? Why would you get a Logitech Pro wheel with that? I’m looking to get my first wheel for GT7. Wondering if I should get a DD or just a logitech G923 or Thrustmaster
DD PRO is there a ad on shifter? Do u know
Great video, as always.
Just my perspective, as an owner of TWO G29s, a Fanatecc DD Pro (8nm, LC), and a Logitech G Pro: agreed, the G29 (or Thrustmaster equivalent) is great value, and did me well for two years, before I upgraded to a DD Pro.
I loved the DD Pro, but your comments about the quick release are spot on. Mine clicks under heavy load, and has disconnected a few times. Shyte engineering. That Fanatec have now released updated versions only now speaks to their relationship with customers. When my DD Pro arrived, it had a defective throttle pedal. To say that Fanatec support is incompetent is understating things.
Which leads me to the G Pro. Your comments about size, cost, and ecosystem are strong, valid points. However, I ordered a G Pro for my main rig because I didn't want to wait for my DD Pro to inevitably fail at some point (the pedals already had). I could not be happier. The implementation of True Force is astounding. Another main reason to buy Logitech, for me, was the quality of construction and reliability.
Oh, why so many wheels? I have two separate rigs, but my collection would no doubt be much smaller that many of you.
Oh, why so many wheels? I have two separate rigs
So in your opinion, if i was to upgrade my T-GT II rig to my first DD setup, it would be better to go Logitech Pro than Fanatec GT DD?
@jamus1217 without a doubt. I recently reinstalled my DD Pro and ran a few races. Chalk and cheese.
This channel has a review simracing604 and Boosted Media, too
What wheel should I get? I want the best quality, overall reliability. Not sure what direction to go
@@danielshallberg9266 Logitech G Pro for mine. Their products have a proven track record, and their after-sales support is far better. Not to mention the issues that Fanatec have with delivery ...
@@supercededmanHey man I appreciate all the feedback you’ve provided, very helpful! I just recently got Grand Turismo 7 and plan on using PS VR2 to play it. What wheel would you recommend for me? I would like something that’s good, durable, and as real as possible. Thanks in advance your your help!
What drives me nuts (and keeps my g29 in service) is that the pc/xbox pricing is cheaper than the ps alternative. Damn you licensing/Sony.
That's a supply and demand thing. More people tend to buy the PS version meaning the prices will stay around the same.
Nothing do with licensing it's that more people buy playstation one and playstation doesn't have competition
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I went with the DD pro. I had a G25 in the past and some other ancient logitech wheels (talking like 20yrs+ ago). DD Pro is kind of in a sweet spot for price and usability. Works with PC and PS, it's a DD, and has plenty of expandability options with wheels and pedals.
I have to agree, if you want to spend as little as possible, a used G29 will suffice, but if you want to get more enjoyment from sim racing, the T300 is the real entry point, Logitech wheels have no ecosystem, and the upgrade bug will bite you sooner or later, and TM has a whole ecosystem to back you up at least
I have the T-300 RS GT edition (and upgraded to fanatec recently). The T-300 is a superb wheel.
I just started sim racing a year ago. I’m finally getting fast with my G29 pretty soon I’m ready to upgrade one day I’ll get a DD wheel but next I thing ima get is the T300 RS
I recently upgraded from T248, to Logitech pro wheel. and the feeling is incredible. Pedals are way much better and let you do better control over break and acceleration control. And the wheel itself when I set it up to 11Nm I was able to feel every single detail on the track in Gt7.
how much u spend?
I have a Thrustmaster T300 and it was a reliable wheel. It's the perfect entry point for the sim racing. I didn't experience a heat issue as you mentioned, but I would recommend having a domestic electric fan to cool both the wheel (and yourself) when playing.
I'm eyeing that Fanatec DD wheel but I'm giving up due to the difficulty of finding it available for purchase.
I as well has been using the T300RS, ive bought it probably almost 9-10 yrs ago. Works great, never had the over heating either. Plus its still for sale for 3-400. Just upgraded to TLCM pedals and an F1 wheel. Really a great base unless you want a DD.
@@doogisar Me too. I also got the TLCM pedals and recently, the Ferrari F1 Wheel Add On
I enjoy my G923 with a MVH load cell upgrade on the brake. Only driving GT7 and F23 but this combo works very well. Am considering the G Pro wheelbase.
I think you are the most transparent and interesting youtuber on the simrscing landscape. I have started with a t150 4 years ago, then upgraded the pedals to a TLCM and never felt the need to change. If you want to be fast, the pedals will be the most important piece to upgrade but i have been always tempted to try the t300 servo just to be able to switch wheels. In my opinion, if you play on PS spending over 1k€ for a DD is not worth it because not many games have an advanced feedback to live up to the expecations.
Update to this comment: i bought a second-hand T300 with an alcantara ferrari wheel and F1 add-on. Wish i had done it earlier 😭😭
I tried to buy the T3 Twothousand with the Ferrari wheel set also and they only sent me the server base so I sent it back and I never bought another one. I still have a logitech G923 sitting in the closet that I don’t even use.
I've just got myself g29 with a racing frame and seat. But my times are 6 seconds of my times with a controller. Would I be correct in saying that my times will get better with the more I play ?
Just practice, the improvement will be evident with enough time, it doesnt take that long.
I am getting my T300 RS GT today. I am a new sim racer and I do not want to dive into it too crazy, though I could acquire better direct driver versions. Even got a foldable seat (Playseat Challenger X) and should soon get the PSVR 2.
Getting into sim racing is not cheap.
PS5 - £475
Playseat Challenger X - £240
T300 RS GT wheel - £300
PSVR 2 - £530
Not counting extra remotes (£65), charger (£25) and games (like Gran Turismo 7 - £62).
Almost £1750 just to begin. So, I am not investing heavy in any top notch sim racing equipment yet.
no offense but just get a wheel and pedals and start setting competitive times, forget the seat and psvr if you would like to get to a certain level of skill
I used a T-150 while I was figuring out if GT7 was worth it, and (coming from a TS-XW on my PC) was very surprised how good it was. It also worked great for AC on PS4. Get a T150 and a PS4 and you have an outstanding inexpensive driving sim. I later upgraded to PS5 and a DD pro but TBH I passed all the license tests using that little T150 and I still miss it. It was a great little wheel.
Set the T128 up correctly and it is fantastic coming from controller for 120£ .
Best belt drive for PS4/5 is the Thrustmaster TGT2 with T-CLM pedal set .I moved up to DD and went for a Logitech G-Pro and pedal set .£1250 may be a bit pricey but it's perfect and worth every penny IMO.You'll need an aluminium cockpit and GT Omega are easily the best value .My prime was under £700 incl seat .
It's the Bavarian Moror Works emblem that makes that wheel great.
As someone who’s trying to get into sim racing but doesn’t want cheap equipment, fanatec really gets my attention but so many bad reviews and I’m in U.S. so to be so far away and spend that kinda money scares me especially if something isn’t working but I love the huge eco system. Logitech pro seems like a viable option, while pricy the downside is no eco system like an upgraded shifter.. feels like it’s a loose loose one way or the other.
I’m strongly considering switching back to fanetec with the club sport DD+ from the Logitech G Pro. I love the base but dislike the pedals and tired of waiting for Logitech ecosystem. Will u be doing a review for the Club sport DD+. Any info on it specifically with console would really help. Love ur content and thank u for all the hard work
I don't think I'm reviewing the cs dd pro
@@randomcallsign ok no worries I just figured I would ask. I do appreciate u taking the time to reply back . Best wishes and love the content
Pretty solid video yet I feel like picking a point of contention since I’m bought in on the Logitech Pro wheel & pedals!
You didn’t really speak to the fact that the logi pro in PS edition is also PC compatible, nothing about the fact it has a pretty solid Wheel QD that’s better then Fanatec unless you pay extra for the just released QR2 and good luck getting that shipped quickly ! As for the pro pedals your criticism about price might be a continental issue since at $350 that’s a lot for what they are. In the USA when buying wheel and pedals together Logitech gives you an automatic discount that basically brings the pedals down to about $260 dollars and if you have other discount codes they will stack ontop of their bundle discount. At that price and with what’s included they compare far more favorably against even the CSL elites in my opinion and use. Also failed to mention if you get a Fanatec PS compatible base and decide to buy the club sport pedals you must have a laptop to update their firmware before they will work with any of their PS bases … Logitech Pro is full on plug and play albeit to firmware update you must get a PC/MAC access. Although in my experience logitechs usually come with the latest firmware on newer products, old stock not so much.
Fanatec needs to drop the price of the DD pro and make it more available in Canada. I want the game-specific switches so bad but the will is still unobtainium for plebs like me.
After almost three years with the T300, and a couple of months with the Tlcm, just pulled the plug on the GT DD Pro and the Elite V2 pedals, with the Mclaren Gt3 wheel as well since I play on xbox too. Lets hope it doesn't take too much to arrive.
How are you liking it so far? I was thinking about getting the same one.
@@josephobuck5409, the GT DD Pro is a substancial step forward. Maybe not in terms of strenght (mainly because I use the ff at 5 in GT7) but in terms of how smooth and detailed the force feedback is. The pedals are way better than the Tlcm as well, I adapted easily to them.
I have the exact same Thrustmaster setup as you had, and I'm getting the exact same Fanatec setup as you have now. I am borrowing the GT DD Pro 8nm from a friend at the moment, to test how it feels. And imo it's pretty strong and detailed. He has the ClubSport V3 inverted pedals though. But I'm ordering the Elite V2 for myself. Are you still happy with your Elite v2 pedals and your GT DD pro 8nm? Any complaints at all, or smooth sailing? (or driving rather) 😂
@@DonCramon, yep still running strong with this setup, more than enough for my style and level of sim racing.
Have thrustmaster t150 and im more than satisfied i love it. Brings gt7 on psvr2 to a whole new level. Ive never even tried without. I bought it same day i bought gt7
The thing that sucks with the newer wheels is you can't use the left pedal as the brake like I did with my g27. It felt more comfortable and let my hips relax so i could game longer.
If you upgrade to the Logitech G Pro wheel you can map the clutch paddle to work as a brake
I love my DD Pro with boost kit and load cell and McLaren wheel. It was worth the extra money to me. I came from a T150. I was blown away by the difference between the two.
How long did it take you to actually get your setup from the date you ordered? I’m wondering because I’m starting to hear a lot of negative about Fanatec not shipping orders while people have spent over $1k with them
What's the differences. The power or feedback?
Do not buy the Turtle Beach Wheel for X-Box ! The Display does nor work with any X-Box Game, Non of them, You would think it would as dissplayed in their ad ! $700. bucks for half the functions !
Do I need to think about game compatibility? I’d like to be able to use a wheel with both older games like Driveclub and new ones like Trackmania.
I'm thinking of getting the T300 RS as my first wheel but the overheating issue really holds me back. This model was released in 2014 and Thrustmaster to this day couldn't bother to address the issue. They also don't provide official warranty here in Brazil so we're stuck with either the store provided warranty or just luck. I was even thinking of getting one of the more 'affordable' DD wheels but since none of the manufacturers have official retailers here, they end up costing pretty much double the price of the T300 RS. It's really frustrating.
If only the overheating holds you back from buying a t300 es dont worry. Theres a forced fan mode what you can switch on. I used one like this for 5 years straight every day. Also 2-3 hours races. No issues at all. Never... Nothing.
@@badboykiller9926 I appreciate the tip but the design flaw is still inexcusable. Imagine if NVidia goes: “Hey guys here’s our brand new RTX 5080, it has a few overheating issues so make sure to crank the fan speeds all the way to 100% so it doesn’t overheat and then thermal throttle okay?” Imagine the backlash.
Anyway, I’ll buy one and see what happens for a week.
@@CrustyMusty101 That's why i skipped it and went for the csl dd..will get delivered next week and i got some very good deals on black friday
Hi! I’m starting up racing on F1 23 on PS5. Looking for budget wheel. Will the Thrustmaster T80 work on PS5 or do I need to look at the T150 or the T128? Potentially looking at upgrading to the Logitech GW29?
Go with the t150 at minimum. The t80 has no force feedback. That makes a huge difference.
I bought mine on launch for Black Friday hasn’t failed me added the load cell pedal only 5 nm. I think it’s a good entry level.
I luv my fanatec podium for my playstation , I had it since it first came out and now the price is insane
Great video... i was already considering fanatec dd pro but watching this video just confirms my decision.
Are you still getting it or no? And why not?
Bonjour à tous, j'utilise depuis quelques années 1G29 qui a 2700 heures d'utilisation,je suis sidéré de solidité de ce matériel, pourtant je ne le ménage pas du tout.rapport, qualité et prix imbattable, seul souci,ai démonté 10 fois les potentiomètre du pédalier pour les nettoyer.important la le S.A.V est sérieux,ce n'est pas le cas d'autres Marques bien plus chère.😻
Great video! Thank you very much. I use a Thruthmaster T300 GT on a PS5 and mainly play ACC, GT7 and EA WRC. I was thinking of switching to a Logitech G Pro. It's expensive but the feedback I've seen is that it gives a very good feel in ACC and GT7, even though it's pedals are not the best, nor does it have an ecosystem. The new CS DD+ from Fanatec scares me because of Fanatec's bad customer service in case there is a problem. You think it's really not worth it to trade the T300 GT for the Log. G Pro?
Stick with what you have until there's more clarity with logitech and fanatec
It's not that fanatec has bad customer service it's that their support department is located in Germany so if you're anywhere outside of Europe it's takes longer to get in touch with them and get service done luckily for me they have a US based service warehouse so I didn't have to pay for shipping when I had to get a replacement product
Also you probably will pay on top more for customs, here in uk
Logitech wheels are honestly only good for a used market value. Example. 929 is $400 cdn and shifter is 80$. I got both seperatky on FB for 250 total. I spent another 80$ on a stand thats on amazon for 180$. So i have the basics of everything but a dedicated seat. (Use my gaming chair) Once you spent that $400 on a wheel you might aswell spend that little bit for a DD wheel. Getting an entry DD for 500$ cdn + shipping ect is far superior for the $$ value
I have a t248 and I have issues with the toggle switches. The left side reacts on the wheel but doesn't always react in game.
What you recomend for 200 euro new or used ? I just like responsive wheals so i can play nead for speed unbound,i dont want the lag when stering 😊
Which one do you use? Like everyday use.
Would be awesome to own T300RS for my PS5. But i can not afford, from our high prices in Nunavut.
Should I get a wheel for PS4 or save up for a PC and get a wheel for that, I know PC has better racing sims but is it worth the extra money?
Which wheel would be good for Console PS5 for Assetto Corsa Competizione ? Will these wheels work as good on other racing games or are they the best for Gran Turismo only?
Im looking to upgrade and i wanted to know if there was any driving wheel with working analog sticks preferably the right analog stick for ps5 so i can change my camera angles without switching to my controller. Thats what i need to do with the t80 Thrustmaster. New to driving wheels since i was too poor as a kid.
Do you think we will get more brands on the market for playstation in the near future ?
Excellent video. Thank you
I think for me with a PS5 in Canada the Fanatec delivery is bad, price exchange and duty are off the charts, long waits in customs also. From a 3nd party the fanatec is 2 grand Canadian $, just for the base and wheel, pedals are extra. YIKES ! The Logitech pro in Canada is the same with taxes its 1900 $, too much. I wish Moza would come out with a PS5 version but i contacted them and they said not for a year or so.
I have the G923 set. Did the "TrueBrake" mod and it made a big difference.
What's that mod?
What’s that mod?
My T248 make a bad sound while turning the wheel in corners at max degree. Could be faulty?
I’m still eyeing the G923 but I just bought a T80 from Walmart because it was heavily discounted Lol
Jeez, I can buy a beater car for 500-1000$ lol What's the best for simple gaming? G29, T150 or G923?
uhhh Fanatec or logitech, as a owner of a gt-I I can affirm that price quality is a big issue. if you go for second hand and want a ecosystem with all perks and affordable , yes Thrustmaster is okay , will come with a list of buts.
I ordered a GT DD Pro on the 22nd Nov and it is due today
quick question so if i bring tgt2 and dd pro and both are at 5nm they both feel the same ??
no. tgt will feel slower and more grainy than the ddpro
Which dd1 or dd2 is ps5 compatible the dd1 f1 edition is ps5 conpatible???
What’s the best wheel for World of Outlaws on ps5? I need help there’s so many
Obrigado mais uma vez pelos teus videos! Bom ver um Tuga a ter sucesso!!
Now, until the DD+ is released in a Bundle, I want to make my comeback in GT7 with budget wheel.
I'm between the T300(used) and the Logitech G923/G29(both used). And is it worth the extra bucks for the G923 over the G29 for the TRUE FORCE?
Boas, esquece o g923, tive esse e atualmente tenho o t300rs gt. Não há comparação, o t300 dá-te uma experiência muito melhor e mais silenciosa 😅
@@Theonetruedarklord Foi o que fiz 👌
@@Rog3rGT_I estás a gostar do volante? Cumprimentos
@@Theonetruedarklord O t300 foi o meu 2º volante há 3 ou 4 anos atrás, por isso já conhecia e considero bastante bom. Depois tive o DD Pro, bem melhor que o t300, que acabei por vender por falta de tempo.
What are the best wheels for Project Cars 3? tyia
is that you sammy zayne? thanks for the info brah!
Thank you for the advice
Thanks for the video
What do you think about Moza R3? I think that it destoyes Logitech G923 and Thrustmaster T300/TX.
its not for playstation
I went from T-GT2 to a G923 because I only play GT7, the updated force feedback in that game is so bad that I'm not able to feel most of the kerb in game without trueforce (no , you don't get that kerb feedback on T-GT2 with T-DFB and the official licenced fanatec gt dd pro, shocking)
I only play gt7 and I have a G923 I was going to upgrade to something way better like tgt or fanatec are you telling me not to because GT7 isn’t the game for these wheels?
@@josephobuck5409 I ended up getting a Logitech g pro wheel, other options in my opinion are not worth it
@@josephobuck5409 currently the wheel from Logitech with truforce technology are the best optimized wheels for the game, I heard that fanatec is doing something similar with the new direct drive base called fullforce but it's already couple month after launch still that feature is nowhere to be seen
Im looking at getting a t300 base with the sf1000 Ferrari race wheel for f1, I predominantly play f1 23 and will be getting 24 when its out, is this a good setup?
Did you end up getting it? I'm thinking of doing the same thing. I have a t150 at the moment.
@@MrPaulbogart I did yes! Absolutely love the setup, got the t300 second hand for half the market price and good condition and a new sf1000, best wheel I’ve used
Is the TG-T 2 a good buy for $600 new for the bundle? I need ps5 compatibility.
It's dated. I'd rather spend more for the DDpro when Fanatec stock gets better.
I am going to buy the g29 wheel for my boyfriend for Christmas. Does anyone know what wheel stand is nice to use for this? Theres so many and so many mixed reviews.
I'd just get the G29 for now and shifter. Use the desk for now, and then he can get into the hobby and look into rigs.
Awesome gift BTW! 🎁 ❤🎉
Play seat challenge, if he's less than 250 pounds
Very nice options 👍
I read alot about those products. Thank you a lot for the summary i was missing elsewhere. This helped me to make a purchase decission.
Pxn 10 is good wheel. It's FFB wheel.
Can Logitech Gpro mix n match with fanatec pedals 🤔
Not on console
The Fanatec DD Gt7 wheel is junk, don’t get it, you WILL break it, if you can withstand the creaks and pops long enough of the garbage connector. Save yourself the headache and get something like the flat bottom BMW wheel, trust my personal experience here. Also I recommend leather over alcantara because most people won’t properly care for the alcantara. Also don’t waste time with 5nm, 8nm minimum, or the new 12nm.
Is the g29 still a good wheel to use in 2024/23
How to say you didn't watch the video without saying you didn't watch the video lol
Why the gloves tho 🤔😂
Anyone recommend the best racing game on ps5 for a wheel?
Apple keyboard
Best wheel for playstation 4 and 5 is the PSX V12 lite. Absolutely blows all these wheels out the water.
what games on ps4 are compatible with wheel
All the F1 games, Gran Turismo Sport, GT7, ACC, Wreckfest, Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, These are just from experience of playing them, I'm pretty sure a few others will also. (Edit) Nascar games like Heat 5 plus various rally games.
I waste 500 for Logitech G29 shifter and wheel stand. Regret it feels cheap quality my t80 has more quality. Don't waste your maney get t300
These wheels VR2 compatible?
The vr has nothing to do with the wheel and vise versa. The wheel acts as another controller
Me personally I use the t300rs GT with my psvr2 on gt7
Anyone got reccs for wrc? Ps5
Do the same with xbox please
I will.
I got my fanatec csl dd in 13 days in the United States. Longest 13 days of my life😂
its the gloves for me
G923 is a PS5 mode not xbox
Actually the 923 is either playstation or Xbox. They didn't change the model numbers like they did with the g29/g920
@@MysticalDragon73 i stand corrected
Need a video for Xbox please
This video also serves for XBOX. I say that I provide text with the wheels compatible with the XBOX.
@@randomcallsignso I’m basically down to deciding between G920/923, TX, Moza R3 bundle, Fanatec CSL DD. For some reason the TX is the most expensive at $500
@@Thai02Boy In the 2 hand market I believe that the tx is really cheap
I went with the Fanatec DD Pro for maximum compatibility. The Playstation compatibility is in the wheelbase, then the Xbox compatibility is in the swappable wheel itself, so you can get something compatible with everything. Pricey tho.
T300 is a worthless wheel, in my opinion. Overheats in a view laps depending on the track. Regardless of the climate. I live in the Netherlands, and overheating is always a problem.
Horrible wheel!
Dank je wel!
None of that logitech crap, belt drive or direct drive is best
I’m getting a headache trying to decide which way to go..
I came here so I could spend money I shouldn’t spend 😂
Donate your G93 to me.
I’ll sell you mine I paid $450. I’m selling it for 300 maybe 280.
I literally used it for less than a month it sits in my closet I don’t have a desk for it
@@josephobuck5409 i live in the Arctic, i can not afford nothing. As we have the highest price in the stores.
I've always wanted a race seat with the G93. With stick shift.
so most are crap and also very expensive
Don’t buy the T128 wheel. It is trash. Don’t buy F1 2023 either. Problems with that game as well.
Looks like im trans
Looks like im the first to comment 😁
hello there
This guy hasn’t a clue guys as the Logitech G923 is NOT XBOX Compatible at all!
The Logitech G923 will ONLY work on the PS4/PS5 guys!
I know that because I bought the Logitech G923 Steering Wheel & Gear Shifter for my PS4 & PS5 Systems guys!
There's a Xbox compatible g923
@@randomcallsign No, there’s not a Logitech G923 that’s compatible with the XBOX, but there is an adapter that can make it compatible with the XBOX tho bud!
The Logitech that actually is made for the XBOX is the Logitech G23 bud!
There is one for Xbox. It comes in a black and green box. I look at them in my store every day.
The best way to Sim Race, is not on a Playstation. You know it, I know it. GT 7 is not worth the console or ps plus subscription when all this other brilliant software on PC exists. Its falling to obscurity quickly & quietly.
Lmao what a terrible take. I play ACC on my 6900xt and gt7 looks better
And again like I said I have a top spec PC but there is nothing like GT7+PSVR2 on my PC. I tried it with quest 2 and it's not even close. Don't get me wrong I love my PC but to box everyone into PC saying nothing else is worth considering is incorrect to say the least
I looked at your comment history and it's obvious you just don't have a PS5 and are mad. Grow up.
The best way to race is with the platform you already have
@@randomcallsign facts
Your wrong about the t300. It always overheats! You cannot finish a full race on max feedback.
Never did for me in 2 years of ownership
@@randomcallsign You done all day daily races gt7 max ffb and never noticed a drop in power on fast high g's ?
I've done endurance racing with it
@@rickflare6893 Having your FFB maxed out out in the game is the issue.
That makes the wheel output at full torque for every single bump you run over, which A) is not how it's supposed to work and B) makes all detail disappear. You're not supposed to have all forces always at maximum, you're supposed to have a setting allowing small bumps and light turns to feel light, and huge G's to feel strong. With FFB at max everything is just too strong, doesn't make sense and stresses the motor for no reason.
It's like boosting all bass to 400% on a music track and then wondering why the sound clips and crackles constantly.
For info, with the T300 the recommended FFB strengh in GT7 to avoid going over what the wheel can output seems to be 4.
@@Totone56 Here’s the thing though, the wheel didn’t seem l that powerful . I don’t if I had it maxed completely. The thrustmaster gives no decent feedback at low power. I could never tell my tires where on the limitation low powe.
I have the fanatec on 8nm and I still find it to be weak when it comes to responding to bumps.
I think I need at nice 13 nm because they can simulate real g’s thanks to the higher slew rate.