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Please tell me how long you used your logitech shifter? You say it withstood the test of time - so Im wondering how gentle I should be with mine! TY in advance!
As a current G25 user, looking to upgrade my wheel setup soon. I haven't upgraded to a G29 because in my opinion the G25 feels a lot better, so I'm hoping that the upgrade to a T300 will be a bigger step-up. However, I can't help it but to hesitate buying a T300. As I've heard a lot of stories that it breaks really fast, or that people receive broken products. Where as this doesn't seem to be the case with the Logitech products. Also those plastic pedals on the T300 seem like a lot worse quality than the Logitech pedals. Any comments on this?
@@purpasmart_4831 nah the t500 is older and unrefined so even tho the t300 has a little less torque its still smoother and more precise and also has a quiker reaction time then the t500
Can someone help me, AHHHHH, I upgraded from a Logitech yesterday, And yes the T300 GT RS wheel is an upgrade, I was not getting any faster than 6.06 on the Nordsliefe in the McLaren MP4, But the Logitech was holding me back, The extra 100 pounds for the T300 is well worth it, Even the plastic 8 shifter gear stick is good, A lot better than the Logitech, But I will say the Thrustmaster software of firmware, Is stupid hard to find, Please can someone help in in understanding how I can use the software for the FFB settings, I understand you can change the brake, Yes I can change settings in AMS 2 but surely I can set things in a Thrustmaster app, Like Logitech has, I just cannot find where the Thrustmaster FFB settings is, But the Thrustmaster is a fantastic wheel, I had to get the gear stick as an extra add on, Where as I feel the gear stick should be included if the pedals has a clutch, I am a weirdo who needs a gear stick, And clutch, A clutch is important for me, I find heel to toe is a must in certain cars, unless you take all of the engine braking off, I will say the Thrustmaster is s bit tricky to heel to toe with, I have to move the pedal into the right place, I want more travel lol, I will get used to it and less travel will make you faster over a race that is long, I upgraded the spring in the Logitech pedals, But you can get brake add on's or the load cell pedal set, I will probably get that load cell pedal from thustamster, I think it was 120 pounds if I remember right, I don't mind using a used set as long as they work good, lol, I can see me getting faster now I am using the Thrustmaster, And I can see why the T300 is highly used in teh Sim Drift community, And in AMS 2 the T300 is fantastic, I will be jumping in some old F1 cars now on AMS 2 in a few hours now I have the shifter.... I cannot find that thrustmaster windows control settings part, It's doing my head, Someone please help......
4:58 well thats weird my g29 is clamped to my desk the same way and i cant move it will all my strenght. Its all luck on how they make your wheel i guess
The TH8A shifter has a port on the side of the wheel, inside there is a screw. If you tighten it, it increases the resistence of the shifter. It should state it in the TH8A manual that comes in the box.
My first wheel was the g29 but it was just horrible! Felt nothing like driving a real car, was waaay to loud, and just overall bad, but for the price and as a starter wheel its kinda good but you shouldn’t keep that wheel as your main wheel. I just bought my t300rs gt and it should be here in a few hours, ill give use an update when i try it
Having owned all Logitech versions from the wingman to the g29 I'm ready to upgrade and the T300 price and performance is attractive. Based on my experience I've had to assess my options on the possibility of being able to purchase parts for repairs.
did you upgrade and was it worth it? if i upgrade i want it to feel like a big difference to make it worth it. i could either upgrade to the t300rs gt for about $950nzd including a 3rd party h shifter, or to the fanatec csl dd with pedals and rim + the same third party h shifter for about $1800NZD... not sure which to pick. i know the csl dd setup would be better in every way, but it will be complicated to buy as they dont ship to my country, so freight forwarding, import costs etc. also its double the price of the t300rs. but the t300 will not be a very big upgrade over the g29... and in some aspects (the pedals) its even worse. also its lucky ive found a good h pattern shifter alternative as the thrustmaster h shifter is almost as much as the damn wheel, lol. too much. the g29 shifter for example was only $50nzd, and the wheel was only $350nzd. so 400 all up. hmmm. this is a tough decision.
@@socks2441 if you are planning to upgrade and can afford the DD equipment then go for that. For me I had to make an emergency decision and it worked for me. The MAIN thing I haven't mentioned since my official review is not done as yet into week #3 is whilst in ACC, I can now tap PS button and go to ps home menu functions without the wheel disconnecting or trying to fracture my wrist when it is calibrating again. I've used it on AC as well and won't be doing that again soon until I've learned how to reduce the FFB as when returning to ACC the FFB was amplified causing the engine vibrations etc to be felt as soon as I started the car and I was forced to adjust trueforce audio and gain to the lowest value just to drive without distraction. When it comes to build quality i have to go with DD as something no review covers it the delay in relaying what you do to the car in game. That delay which has been addressed somewhat in ACC by including adjustable settings for throttle and brake still exist in all low end wheels using cheap circuits and electrical connections or poor quality resulting in resistance to signal flow costing you seconds.
@@gasixteenb11 unfortunately the cost/hassle would have been too much for the csl dd right now, since they don't ship here etc. So I gave in and upgradedy g29 to a t300rs non get paired with do e t-lcm pedals. That should be a really good setup for a few years and if they ever start shipping here I can upgrade the wheel to a csl dd and keep the pedals. I'm also going to get a cheap knockoff omp wheel and a nice looking 8 gear h pattern from aliexpress. I already have a basic diy handbrake and sequential shifter. .
I have the g923 on my Xbox it's a good wheel definitely but I'm sure the other wheels in the price range are just as good...I'm not too critical a person so I'm sure you would have a bundle of fun whichever you get 👌
I am having trouble using a wheel now after using a XBOX controller for 2 years, took me a month to figure out it was the input lag, imagine playing a shooter game with that lag. I guess we cant complain about the budget wheel input lag, we just have to adapt.
thrustmaster seems nicer, but their build quality and after sales support are absolute trash. i have a driving force pro from 2003 that my kid still uses to this day on his PC. i had a thrustmaster TMX that only lasted a few months before it stopped working. just picked up a g923...will fire it up for the first time later today!
I got the T300RS GT as my first wheel - I love it, but one thing is making me consider returning it: THE SMELL. I did some research, and apparently it has to do with the PSU being inside the wheel and despite there being a little fan, it's not very well ventilated. So it heats up some plastics or oils or whatever and I bet some people might get headaches from that.
The G923 sounds much louder than the T300RS in your comparison. With multiple people sharing my home, I would have to go w/ the quieter one. I just price checked them at a major US retailer site and the T300RS is about 20% more $, which sounds far. Thank you!
If you can find a busted Ford Focus ST, you can snag yourself a Recaro seat. Even the fabric 'base model' ST seats are Recaro's. Being the owner of a 16' ST, I can say that they are super comfy and would make badass sim rig seats. I've half thought about pulling out my passenger seat and just making anyone ride in the back. There would be tons of leg room for them after that, at least!
@@justinstrange5945 Same here, lol, I been Sim racing for the last 2 years on a PC, The Logitech was stopping me from getting faster, The T300 proved last night that I can be faster using the T300 over the Logitech, People say bull a High end Steering wheel won't make you faster, Bull, I am already faster just using the T300 for 2-3 hours, lol, I can only imagine if I had High end pedals, lol, I use Sim racing as a way of dealing with Mental health, CPTSD, Sim racing helps me forget the noises outside that seems to make me panic sometimes, I don't wish CPTSD on anybody, But Sim Racing have helped me stay away from pills, But yeah I needs to go to the scrap yard myself next week, 15-25 pounds, Next Level 360 pounds, lol, My driving position has changed, So what seat did you end up getting if you don't mind letting me know, But yeah I Sim Race in VR on AMS 2 coz AMS 2 does VR the best IMHO, So a fancy wheel isn;t my thing, lol, The Thrustmaster is a top wheel considering it is from a different era, lol, Yeah what seat did you get after?..... Happy Sim racing....
Really? Interesting take. I always thought that the Thrustmaster looked cheaper and more for children compared to the Logitech. I guess we all have our opinions though.
I can add some long term insight: Disclaimers: 1) everyone has different likes/dislikes so my preferences may not match yours. 2) I am comparing a 2008 Logitech G25 to a 2018 Thrustmaster T300 Alcantara edition (The current Logitech wheels look very similar to, and share the same architecture as their old wheels. However, their manufacturing practices or quality control may have changed) I am a fairly serious sim-racer, I am in no way an e-sports professional, however I have raced in leagues beside iRacing world champions. I do not have a dedicated rig, i use an office desk. My 2008 Logitech G25 died a noble death in 2018 during a major race. Many of the internal plastic structures broke and that caused the steering column to float within the wheel housing. Electronically the wheel continued to function, because I continued to drive in that race for another 2.5 hours (with the wheel floating around freely). But at the time of this failure, the petals still worked completely issue free, the shifter was fun (although i generally used the paddles), the desk clamp still worked great and was still ROCK solid, basically everything was well and good until the internal structure let go. I ended up replacing it with a T300 Alcantara edition. I liked the rim, the alcantara was very nice, the extra buttons were a god-send. However, the pedals were immediately a noticeable down-grade. The T300 petals were very soft and squishy and feeling-less (compared to my 10 year old Logitechs). The lack of a shifter was a let-down. The desk clamp on the T300 was terrible: it was a nuisance to use and was never tight enough, the wheel always slipped on my desk no matter how hard I tightened it down. I really didnt notice any difference in the Force FeedBack going from one to the other, and it didn't change my lap time (mind you all those claims of different wheels or pedal springs making you faster is pure marketing BS). It seems that I am being very negative towards the Thurstmaster, welp there's the rub. I got 10 years out of my G25, and it worked great right up to the day that it all went wrong. 18 Months after buying the T300, the petals started spiking very badly (disassembly and blowing out with an air compressor and contact cleaner is a common occurrence now). At 20 months, the desk clamp broke entirely (I installed studs in the bottom of the wheel and drilled holes in my desk so i can take the wheel on and off with wing nuts). Now at 28 months, the wheel sits on my floor disassembled because the power supply has failed. Research has taught me that this is a common fault and there are home-brew solutions that I am currently undertaking. If these repairs are not successful and I need to replace this wheel, I'm going Logitech.
Hey, on the matter of your thrustmaster not clamping down or it sliding sround. Only about 1/3 of the thrustmaster needs to be on the table. If you look underneath, the front 1/3rd on the bottom is a bit lifted, that edge goes around your desks edge. I have an old 12 year old logitech wheel too, and whilst it did hold up really well and it does indeed still work, it is nowhere near as good as tbe t300 i just bought. Maybe you got some bad pedals or something cause mine feel too hard, not too soft... Anyhow, i love the t300, and so far ive not noticed any of the problems you described
I swapped my T300 RS for a G923, the logitech pedals are a massive margin better on carpet floors with the carpet grips on the bottom, the wheel itself and the pedals are a hell of a lot better quality, the brake pedal feel on the T300 RS is very lifeless even with the rubber thing installed, i dont mind the sound the G923 makes (this video makes it sound a lot louder than it is), its a small tradeoff when you consider the dissapointment in the quality of the T300 RS, it also feels better when driving. The T300 felt a bit lifeless compared to the G923. I wouldnt go back. Rather than buying a T300RS, then upgrade the wheel you would be better off buying a Fanatec direct drive unit, the CSL is only a little bit more than both these wheels and would be a good competitor to these two.
as a beginner I got the g923 and with a few settings adjusted for each game I can tell you it's absolutely perfect!👌 and to battle the noise I got it set up on the Xrocker racer rig(£99.99) rather than a desk table and it fits perfectly! no sliding and way less noise😎
Guess I got lucky, I've had my T300 RS GT that I bought open box for 300 for about 3 years now. It still works like it's brand new, I'm really happy with it, when it breaks I might get a DD wheel like the Podium or something, but honestly, I might just get another one of these because it's been so awesome. Even the pedals are damn good.
@@2ndAveScents mine is still strong after 2 years of use, i went to the csl dd if you do youll fucking love it, its so much better it doesnt feel like a toy anymore
The T300 is way better than any logitech wheel... while it works. Thrustmaster has the worst support I've ever had to deal with and I've never seen a product fail as many times as my TX(which is almost identical to the T300). I actually wish it had an external power supply since that's the first part that failed. In certain markets I think it comes with a power brick.
What kindve issues have you had with it? I just ordered my first wheel and got the TX. Power supply shouldnt be an issue, as from videos ive seen, its supposed to have an external power supply brick.
@@duhduh14 g29 has a lot of noise, and gear system feels rough, if you want to buy steering wheel better you save your money, patient, until it enough to buy t300
@@duhduh14 i bought the t300 alcantara edition, used it for about 30 mins, and then it just shut down and stopped working. sent it back, still looking for another wheel, dont know if i should get the g923.
T300RS all the way through. I was using for a while the logitech g29 and it feels kinda like a toy also it's to noisy. When I heard logitech bringing us a new wheel I thought it would be something to beat my T300RS but then I felt like logitech fans got scammed. Same wheel different colors.
@@ay-leck1369 the g25 has strait cut gears while the g27-g923 use nearly identical helical cut gears. 25 to g27 was the biggest step that logitech made with this dinosaur of a platform.
Ordered my first sim racing wheel, I went with the T300RS GT. I realize it's not recent, but it seems to be a good choice for entry level. I could't justify spending more for fanatac csl elite unfortunately.
thanks i'm in the same spot. About to start my build and think the fanatecs are a bit spendy considering other costs I have involved. T300 seems like the swee spot
The Thrustmaster T300 are great entry level sim wheel. Fanatec Club Sport is nice.. better feel and ffb.. but not really worth the price jump unless you really want the option for better steering wheels that FANATIC makes. Next step for you is to go Direct Drive wheelbase.. whole different level and worth the price jump.
yea same.. but also, going into fanatec adds up quick, with all the options you have.. So I think for beginners there is really no better option than the t300 atm.. Personally I got a T300RS GT on the aftermarket for 200$, and I am still having a blast. I also bought a handbrake and a shifter, because I got into drifting. And especially for drifting, you don't want a logitech. So the t300 is really the only option in the lower price range. Good product!
@@RabbitConfirmed Nice stuff, do you have a specific seat or diy setup? I still need to order one; looking at the foldable playseat or next level racing variant of it
I feel like G29/G923 is just better value for money when you just starting since it costs $300/380 (£220/280) compared to Thrustmaster T300 RS GT which was at least $420 (£310) (all prices for brand new wheel)
Agreed. Having said that though I really don't like the rough feel of the logitech and the noises it makes. Both are caused by it using gears. I got mine for only £150 though in an amazon warehouse deal (like new). I couldn't justify paying double for the thristmaster. Especially as reading reviews showed a fairly significant number of complaints about reliability.
You should also have mentioned the cost of those shifter Although the thrustmaster is better than the logitech one ... it costs about 4 times as much ...
Guys should i buy g923 or t300rs or t150 pro i got tight budget and not going to expand it or i am going to buy t300rs without shifter or g923 with shifter or t150 pro with shifyer is it that better like worth the shifter sacrifice as i said i am not gonna buy the shifter for like long time if i get the t300rs
I also like to add stay away from fanatec CSL, it's a poor corner cut version of the old CSR entry wheels that Fanatec decided to take out of production, most likely because nobody was buying their overpriced junk. T300 GT edition is simply the best wheel buy for the price now. I use a CSR elite and a modded version of the g25 shifter with a standalone adapter and a larger metal stick for better reach. That is the best shifter logitech has made. I have a CSR, CSR Elite, Clubsport, G25, G27, G29, T300RS GT and the CSL which cost me 700€ just to get a complete set with pedals and shifters and in the end it wasn't even comparable quality to the 300€ CSR elite so it was sent back to Fanatec in Germany, Fanatec like to sell their racing equipment seperate instead of complete sets so you pay more, for that reason and the lack of build quality these days i can only advice anyone to avoid them unless you have around 2000-2500€ for a Clubsport set which is the best wheel currently in existence. For that amount of money you can get a good amount of parts for a cockpit.
I wanted to get the T300RS GT but went with G920 since I accidentally found it in store for 169 euros + shifter for 35. I think that logitech should sell it around for 200 euros with the shifter since it's a decade old design. To justify 400 euros that they're asking for new models that are exactly the same as older ones they'd need to at least go from gears to a belt to get rid of the clunk.
Need help please! Trueforce on the G923 is ONLY recognized on my PS5 after I had connected it to the PC app. Once I turn off my PS5, and restart it to play GT7, it will again only recognize Trueforce after I run it through the PC app first. For some reason it looses the Trueforce feature after I restart the PS5, and can only work after I have connected to the PC app. If I leave my PS5 open all day, it wiill work straight, but once the PS5 is closed and restarted, its the same story over again!
As a beginner in simulations, I bought a G29 + the shifter on a sale for ~215 EUR last year, it was a pretty great deal. Although in the current price range, I would definitely choose the T300. You forgot to mention that the TH8A is 3 times more expensive than the logitech shifter, of course it's better. :)
its literally 8 times more expensive in my country. its like $390 or something for the th8a shifter, and $50 for the g29 shifter, lol. suffice it to say, even if i go thrustmaster i am not buying that particular shifter.
@@danielh9981 that aliexpress shifter (if its the one im thinking of) has been rated in reviews to be as good as if not better than the th8a in terms of feel. i dont want the word to get out too much though as i plan on buying once once ive deciding if im upgrading from my g29 to thrustmaster or csl dd, either way im getting that shifter. the alternatives are waaay too pricey. and i dont want that aliexpress shifter to go up in price, lol..
In my country , the T300RS GT is about 80€ to 100€ above the G293 ... which makes the T300 a very hard sell , im also considering the T248 which is priced the same as the G293 here , and from what I hear from reviewers the T248 is slightly better ... but it looks so ugly and the whole plastick vs leather feel is a factor for what will be my first ever wheel purchase...
I have the g923 and shifter. I bought a nice $80 rig. Its fantastic feeling. I got the wheel new for $180 and shifter was $50. So for under $300 i have a really decent setup.
I’ve narrowed my preference down to Thrustmaster, So help me out, T300 RS or T248? There is only a $50 price difference right now so I want the best of the two.
Even tho i really hate Playstation the t300rs is WAY mor worth it cause it last a lot longer than logitch which only lasted me a few months before bugging out
My biggest issue with my g920 is heat, doesn’t take long when drifting to heat the motors, losing a lot of fidelity and ffb strength and pretty much makes it useless until it cools.
@@MattsPaddock I tried that, ended up having to tear the wheel down really often to clean the dust off the hall sensor, so it wouldn’t go out of calibration if I looked at it wrong 😑
G29 is one of the best wheels. This new version is the same shit but overpriced, you are comparing a cheaper overpriced wheel vs a nice price product... I thibk
@@mrshab yeah they just added a little vibrator for more immersion, the wheel has been the same since the dfgt with a few facelifts and worse reliability.
For a noob like me and unsure if this is something I want for the future, the G923 is suitable for me. Maybe if I do more sim racing then yeah I’ll need to upgrade to better things but for now this is perfect to just get my toes wet
I don't know about others but it's weird he keeps comparing these to the G29. In Canada the Thrustmaster model is around $600, the 923 is $500 and the G29 is $350. Obviously, these prices fluctuate from time to time, but if you're going to keep bringing up the G29 then you should also bring up the fact that it's nearly half the price of both of these wheels.
The only reason for bringing it up is that the G923 is basically a copy paste G29 for double the price. The T300 is in a different class even solely for the belt. There is 0 reason IMHO to get a G923 over a G29 unless you just want to hurl money at Logitech. The only reason it's compared to T300 is because it's the same price. Lol.
The price difference betwen the G923/T300 is $100 more for T300RS GT and the rubber wheel look and feel so cheap, if you upgrade for the nice Ferrari 599 wheel, you need to spend another $300 depending of the country... At the end you gonna spend arround $400 more for the Thrustmaster? Go directly with the TS-WX Sparco 310 or the Fanatec CSL Elite for arround the same price ($900) or jump on the bargain G923 wheel for reasonnable price and enjoy the Formula launch contol of the G923.
They have both the same pedals and the same wheel base. The alcantara wheel without wheelbase and pedals costs ~200€ so if the gt edition is just 100€ cheaper I would buy the alcantara edition. Now you have to decide if the money for the alcantara wheel is worth it FOR YOU. (I would buy the alcantara, but it’s your decision)
in nz g29 is $498 wheras the t300 rs is $848 and the g29 seems easy to install an aftermarket steering wheel on whereas the thrustmaster I'll be stuck with 280mm wheel instead of a 350mm
Finally a video of the topic I wanted! Planning to sell my G29 to my friends and upgrade it to something new like the G923 or T300RS but the T300RS has gone down in price so T300RS it is then
I went for the T300 RS GT and there were only some problems with squeaking which I solved. I wouldnt go for logitech. Its cheaper and less professional.
I used for so many years a Logitech Momo, that in the end I briefly tried a G27 of a friend and found a G29 for like 160 eur brand new.. went for it and never looked back; I've repaired the Momo and gifted it to a friend, which had a Microsoft Wheel xD. At that price you get a T150, which imho isn't a bad wheel per se, but those stock pedals are horrible compared to the G29. Here the G923 is 280ish, the T300RS GT is 330-350. Considering the price of the shifter (which is 40ish vs 150ish) it really gets expensive, to go the Trustmaster way, albeit admittedly it's an overall significantly better quality product as whole. I'm happy to have spent literally nothing for my G29 and I hope it will last as my old Momo, that is still going after more than 15 years. For casual sim racing it was the good choice, should you go doing high level multiplayer racing, then probably T300 or T500 or direct wheel are the way to go.
Thanks for the comparison. You covered everything there is to know in detail and explained the differences clearly. Exactly what a review should be like. Definitely going to subscribe to your channel!
I know im lat3 but man if this came out today you would need to compare the th8s wi5h the logitwch one since the price point and its simitar in quality
I 100 percent wanted the thrustmaster t300, but I wanted a shifter and I just can’t justify 200 dollars for the shifter and be 600 deep in this thing. I grabbed the Logitech 923 with the 50 dollar shifter and I’m happy with it, but I can’t help but still kinda wanna try the thrustmaster just to see
@@PouchyPowell I caved and returned the g923 which cost 400 for the t248 which was on sale for 350. Then spent 250 for the thrustmaster shifter on Amazon because their impossible to get retail. I love it though. I will say I miss the true force though which was a noticeable difference in both grid legends and gt7 but for me I needed the better shifters I love manual trans with clutch driving. But besides the shifter I’ll say the t248 has slightly stronger fbb but the g923 has the extra effects on the wheel from true force. If your good with the Logitech shifter than I think you made the best choice.
I just changed from G27 to T300 Ferrari Integral Alcantara Edition and Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals.Huge difference,G27 feels like a toy compared to the Thrustmaster wheel and pedals..I also bought the TM Open Wheel.I'm so happy with this little setup all mounted on a wheel stand pro..the stand is the same which I used with the G27 for 5 years,for those who are asking,yes the stand have the holes prepared for logitech and thrustmaster.
I want to upgrade from G29 to this wheel. But it doesn't have PS control buttons. Will I be able to control PS menu etc. Fully with the buttons on this wheel. Thanks.
@@MP-78 I don't have a playstation but I think the T300 base is compatible with it,I don't know if is PS3 or PS4.The buttons on the wheel can be used with playstation and there are 2 more buttons on the base compatible with PS too.
Had two T300RS’. First one had the power supply fail just out of warranty. Second one, the motor failed as did the Hall effect sensor. While I like how the wheel felt whilst it was working, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone due to abysmal build quality.
this is exactly what I was thinking too... seems that although thrustmaster is the better performing wheel, but I've seen soooo many people saying that over time problems will occur. I cant afford to replace parts along the way so I just want something good and reliable lol
@@ruffoprime1282 I ran 50% default settings. So update.. I started with the Logitech G920, then returned that for the G923, and then returned that and got a steal on kijiji for the Thrustmaster TMX Pro with the TH8A shifter and a stand.. no regrets man, I love my thrustmaster way more than I did with my Logitech
if you had a g920 and had their issue like constant miscalibration, wiring issues to do with the face pcb to the base pcb etc etc you wouldnt be complaining, my t300rs gt only had one issue and that was the fan bearing got noisey but thats an easy upgrade
I had a used TMX pro kit, didnt have any issue with and the next owner too, Upgrade to TX for 1 year casual utility (quite more intensive in the end), it fade after intensive drifting sessions but never failed, New owner freaking love it over his g923 Upgrade to TS-XW (bought used) god i love that wheel, not had a single problem with so far The 2 first wheels was mainly for forza7 (little assetto for the Tx) And i like my steering to feel heavy since i drove a non powersteering cars on semi-slick, so my FFB are quite aggressive (but in a realistic way) and they never failed
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How much does the t300 rs gt package weigh?
@@akeemwisdom5742 It's a little over 10 kg
118Shadow118 thanks
Please tell me how long you used your logitech shifter? You say it withstood the test of time - so Im wondering how gentle I should be with mine! TY in advance!
End of video....means G29 would be good for its value? $350 g29 vs $475 300rsgt at my place
1:23 The wheels I want.
0:00 Wheels I can afford.
Bro 😂
ur really broke bro :D
Hahahha, the Linus part is so true tho
As a current G25 user, looking to upgrade my wheel setup soon. I haven't upgraded to a G29 because in my opinion the G25 feels a lot better, so I'm hoping that the upgrade to a T300 will be a bigger step-up. However, I can't help it but to hesitate buying a T300. As I've heard a lot of stories that it breaks really fast, or that people receive broken products. Where as this doesn't seem to be the case with the Logitech products. Also those plastic pedals on the T300 seem like a lot worse quality than the Logitech pedals. Any comments on this?
Just skip the T300 and go to the T500 instead.
@@purpasmart_4831 Are you talking sexy?
@@purpasmart_4831 nah the t500 is older and unrefined so even tho the t300 has a little less torque its still smoother and more precise and also has a quiker reaction time then the t500
@@rens7846 Teah my bad, the t300 is actually way better.
the logishit is way less reliable than the t300, and is 3x worth the cost
I’ll just get the g29 it looks and feels better and ik ffb isn’t as good but it’s still good enough to just casually play
Does the TM model have a double clutch feature like the Logitech??
Can someone help me, AHHHHH, I upgraded from a Logitech yesterday, And yes the T300 GT RS wheel is an upgrade, I was not getting any faster than 6.06 on the Nordsliefe in the McLaren MP4, But the Logitech was holding me back, The extra 100 pounds for the T300 is well worth it, Even the plastic 8 shifter gear stick is good, A lot better than the Logitech, But I will say the Thrustmaster software of firmware, Is stupid hard to find, Please can someone help in in understanding how I can use the software for the FFB settings, I understand you can change the brake, Yes I can change settings in AMS 2 but surely I can set things in a Thrustmaster app, Like Logitech has, I just cannot find where the Thrustmaster FFB settings is, But the Thrustmaster is a fantastic wheel, I had to get the gear stick as an extra add on, Where as I feel the gear stick should be included if the pedals has a clutch, I am a weirdo who needs a gear stick, And clutch, A clutch is important for me, I find heel to toe is a must in certain cars, unless you take all of the engine braking off, I will say the Thrustmaster is s bit tricky to heel to toe with, I have to move the pedal into the right place, I want more travel lol, I will get used to it and less travel will make you faster over a race that is long, I upgraded the spring in the Logitech pedals, But you can get brake add on's or the load cell pedal set, I will probably get that load cell pedal from thustamster, I think it was 120 pounds if I remember right, I don't mind using a used set as long as they work good, lol, I can see me getting faster now I am using the Thrustmaster, And I can see why the T300 is highly used in teh Sim Drift community, And in AMS 2 the T300 is fantastic, I will be jumping in some old F1 cars now on AMS 2 in a few hours now I have the shifter....
I cannot find that thrustmaster windows control settings part, It's doing my head, Someone please help......
4:58 well thats weird my g29 is clamped to my desk the same way and i cant move it will all my strenght. Its all luck on how they make your wheel i guess
Just finished a night with new T300RS GT. Ten times better feedback communication than my BMW 340.
I'm thrilled.
B58 makes up for the numb steering feel lol
Problems with overheating?
do u like it so far ?
Ur not lying them shits handle like toys 😂😂
Ugh i wish someone with a 340 would let me drive it. All I’ve driven fwd car and the most sportiest car I’ve driven was a TLX with sh awd :(
9:20 This loudness part is golden... everybody talks about it, nobody shows it... thank you!
ironic its at 9:20
if only the steering wheel market was bigger...
fanatec needs competition ngl
@@sleempy6343 fanatec needs to lower their fuckin prices
@@d3admaub938 completely overpriced. but they can do it... as same it is made from apple ;)
just get a fanatec, with the universal hub. you can add any aftermarket steering wheel to it from big trucker wheel to little drifting ones.
@@d3admaub938 Damm right! Like who TF do they think they are?!?
The g923 is the g27 with a Driving Force GT Button layout. Great wheel but only if it was 100 € cheaper. My T300 is old now but still a blast to use.
So which do you recommend if money isn't an issue?
@@boredfive3001 any direct drive wheel on the market
@@Alexandru017 I only have 400 dollars. What's the most realistic best experience I can get. I'll buy the shifter separate.
@@boredfive3001 thurstmaster sure
@@قوائمتعليمية Can you give me an exact model?
The TH8A shifter has a port on the side of the wheel, inside there is a screw. If you tighten it, it increases the resistence of the shifter. It should state it in the TH8A manual that comes in the box.
“Let’s see which one deserves your hard earned money”
My first wheel was the g29 but it was just horrible!
Felt nothing like driving a real car, was waaay to loud, and just overall bad, but for the price and as a starter wheel its kinda good but you shouldn’t keep that wheel as your main wheel. I just bought my t300rs gt and it should be here in a few hours, ill give use an update when i try it
@@cranberryjuice.3635 So, you got it? What are your thoughts?
@@cranberryjuice.3635 how was it?
My fav animal was axolotl years before Minecraft hbu?
@@dbbmpx2882 never even knew it existed
It's worth noting that currently the base price for the g923 in Amazon is 270 to 300 where as the thrustmaster t300 is 450.
Having owned all Logitech versions from the wingman to the g29 I'm ready to upgrade and the T300 price and performance is attractive. Based on my experience I've had to assess my options on the possibility of being able to purchase parts for repairs.
did you upgrade and was it worth it? if i upgrade i want it to feel like a big difference to make it worth it. i could either upgrade to the t300rs gt for about $950nzd including a 3rd party h shifter, or to the fanatec csl dd with pedals and rim + the same third party h shifter for about $1800NZD... not sure which to pick. i know the csl dd setup would be better in every way, but it will be complicated to buy as they dont ship to my country, so freight forwarding, import costs etc. also its double the price of the t300rs. but the t300 will not be a very big upgrade over the g29... and in some aspects (the pedals) its even worse. also its lucky ive found a good h pattern shifter alternative as the thrustmaster h shifter is almost as much as the damn wheel, lol. too much. the g29 shifter for example was only $50nzd, and the wheel was only $350nzd. so 400 all up. hmmm.
this is a tough decision.
@@socks2441 if you are planning to upgrade and can afford the DD equipment then go for that. For me I had to make an emergency decision and it worked for me. The MAIN thing I haven't mentioned since my official review is not done as yet into week #3 is whilst in ACC, I can now tap PS button and go to ps home menu functions without the wheel disconnecting or trying to fracture my wrist when it is calibrating again. I've used it on AC as well and won't be doing that again soon until I've learned how to reduce the FFB as when returning to ACC the FFB was amplified causing the engine vibrations etc to be felt as soon as I started the car and I was forced to adjust trueforce audio and gain to the lowest value just to drive without distraction. When it comes to build quality i have to go with DD as something no review covers it the delay in relaying what you do to the car in game. That delay which has been addressed somewhat in ACC by including adjustable settings for throttle and brake still exist in all low end wheels using cheap circuits and electrical connections or poor quality resulting in resistance to signal flow costing you seconds.
So ur saying t300 is better than any of the Logitech’s
@@gideondessar9342 It should be. From personal experience the best Logitech cannot brake as late as you can with t300.
@@gasixteenb11 unfortunately the cost/hassle would have been too much for the csl dd right now, since they don't ship here etc. So I gave in and upgradedy g29 to a t300rs non get paired with do e t-lcm pedals. That should be a really good setup for a few years and if they ever start shipping here I can upgrade the wheel to a csl dd and keep the pedals. I'm also going to get a cheap knockoff omp wheel and a nice looking 8 gear h pattern from aliexpress. I already have a basic diy handbrake and sequential shifter. .
I have the g923 on my Xbox it's a good wheel definitely but I'm sure the other wheels in the price range are just as good...I'm not too critical a person so I'm sure you would have a bundle of fun whichever you get 👌
I loved your review. Couldn't help but notice the massive input lag though.
Thanks! IRL it's not there, the shutter speed of the camera and refresh rate make it seem like it's not so when recorded like this
@@MattsPaddock ow yeah, maybe that's why I see it a lot. much appreciated you clarified. thanks.
One which wheel?
I am having trouble using a wheel now after using a XBOX controller for 2 years, took me a month to figure out it was the input lag, imagine playing a shooter game with that lag. I guess we cant complain about the budget wheel input lag, we just have to adapt.
@@positivemasculinity42 maybe on xbox but ive never heard of wheels having input lag
thrustmaster seems nicer, but their build quality and after sales support are absolute trash. i have a driving force pro from 2003 that my kid still uses to this day on his PC. i had a thrustmaster TMX that only lasted a few months before it stopped working. just picked up a g923...will fire it up for the first time later today!
I got the T300RS GT as my first wheel - I love it, but one thing is making me consider returning it: THE SMELL. I did some research, and apparently it has to do with the PSU being inside the wheel and despite there being a little fan, it's not very well ventilated. So it heats up some plastics or oils or whatever and I bet some people might get headaches from that.
Thanks mate, just bought a t300
The G923 sounds much louder than the T300RS in your comparison. With multiple people sharing my home, I would have to go w/ the quieter one. I just price checked them at a major US retailer site and the T300RS is about 20% more $, which sounds far. Thank you!
just ordered the thrustmaster... my first gaming wheel setup, now off to the junkyard to pick-a-part an actual car seat for my planned setup!
If you can find a busted Ford Focus ST, you can snag yourself a Recaro seat. Even the fabric 'base model' ST seats are Recaro's. Being the owner of a 16' ST, I can say that they are super comfy and would make badass sim rig seats. I've half thought about pulling out my passenger seat and just making anyone ride in the back. There would be tons of leg room for them after that, at least!
@@justinstrange5945 Same here, lol, I been Sim racing for the last 2 years on a PC, The Logitech was stopping me from getting faster, The T300 proved last night that I can be faster using the T300 over the Logitech, People say bull a High end Steering wheel won't make you faster, Bull, I am already faster just using the T300 for 2-3 hours, lol, I can only imagine if I had High end pedals, lol, I use Sim racing as a way of dealing with Mental health, CPTSD, Sim racing helps me forget the noises outside that seems to make me panic sometimes, I don't wish CPTSD on anybody, But Sim Racing have helped me stay away from pills, But yeah I needs to go to the scrap yard myself next week, 15-25 pounds, Next Level 360 pounds, lol, My driving position has changed, So what seat did you end up getting if you don't mind letting me know, But yeah I Sim Race in VR on AMS 2 coz AMS 2 does VR the best IMHO, So a fancy wheel isn;t my thing, lol, The Thrustmaster is a top wheel considering it is from a different era, lol, Yeah what seat did you get after?.....
Happy Sim racing....
Logitech looks like a typical wheel for kids, thrustmaster has the more professional look
In the end, even those super expensive direct drive wheels are just toys
@@corniel657 toys but most of them help people irl
@@corniel657 yeah a toy, that could break your wrist.
@@mauro2k182 well of course, I mean pro drivers have them
Really? Interesting take. I always thought that the Thrustmaster looked cheaper and more for children compared to the Logitech. I guess we all have our opinions though.
I can add some long term insight:
Disclaimers: 1) everyone has different likes/dislikes so my preferences may not match yours. 2) I am comparing a 2008 Logitech G25 to a 2018 Thrustmaster T300 Alcantara edition (The current Logitech wheels look very similar to, and share the same architecture as their old wheels. However, their manufacturing practices or quality control may have changed)
I am a fairly serious sim-racer, I am in no way an e-sports professional, however I have raced in leagues beside iRacing world champions. I do not have a dedicated rig, i use an office desk.
My 2008 Logitech G25 died a noble death in 2018 during a major race. Many of the internal plastic structures broke and that caused the steering column to float within the wheel housing. Electronically the wheel continued to function, because I continued to drive in that race for another 2.5 hours (with the wheel floating around freely). But at the time of this failure, the petals still worked completely issue free, the shifter was fun (although i generally used the paddles), the desk clamp still worked great and was still ROCK solid, basically everything was well and good until the internal structure let go.
I ended up replacing it with a T300 Alcantara edition. I liked the rim, the alcantara was very nice, the extra buttons were a god-send. However, the pedals were immediately a noticeable down-grade. The T300 petals were very soft and squishy and feeling-less (compared to my 10 year old Logitechs). The lack of a shifter was a let-down. The desk clamp on the T300 was terrible: it was a nuisance to use and was never tight enough, the wheel always slipped on my desk no matter how hard I tightened it down. I really didnt notice any difference in the Force FeedBack going from one to the other, and it didn't change my lap time (mind you all those claims of different wheels or pedal springs making you faster is pure marketing BS).
It seems that I am being very negative towards the Thurstmaster, welp there's the rub. I got 10 years out of my G25, and it worked great right up to the day that it all went wrong. 18 Months after buying the T300, the petals started spiking very badly (disassembly and blowing out with an air compressor and contact cleaner is a common occurrence now). At 20 months, the desk clamp broke entirely (I installed studs in the bottom of the wheel and drilled holes in my desk so i can take the wheel on and off with wing nuts). Now at 28 months, the wheel sits on my floor disassembled because the power supply has failed. Research has taught me that this is a common fault and there are home-brew solutions that I am currently undertaking.
If these repairs are not successful and I need to replace this wheel, I'm going Logitech.
Hey, on the matter of your thrustmaster not clamping down or it sliding sround. Only about 1/3 of the thrustmaster needs to be on the table. If you look underneath, the front 1/3rd on the bottom is a bit lifted, that edge goes around your desks edge.
I have an old 12 year old logitech wheel too, and whilst it did hold up really well and it does indeed still work, it is nowhere near as good as tbe t300 i just bought. Maybe you got some bad pedals or something cause mine feel too hard, not too soft...
Anyhow, i love the t300, and so far ive not noticed any of the problems you described
I swapped my T300 RS for a G923, the logitech pedals are a massive margin better on carpet floors with the carpet grips on the bottom, the wheel itself and the pedals are a hell of a lot better quality, the brake pedal feel on the T300 RS is very lifeless even with the rubber thing installed, i dont mind the sound the G923 makes (this video makes it sound a lot louder than it is), its a small tradeoff when you consider the dissapointment in the quality of the T300 RS, it also feels better when driving. The T300 felt a bit lifeless compared to the G923. I wouldnt go back. Rather than buying a T300RS, then upgrade the wheel you would be better off buying a Fanatec direct drive unit, the CSL is only a little bit more than both these wheels and would be a good competitor to these two.
I agree. I feel this review isn’t accurate. The g923 is not loud. And its built better than that Thrustmaster.
The g923 pedals are much better also.
as a beginner I got the g923 and with a few settings adjusted for each game I can tell you it's absolutely perfect!👌 and to battle the noise I got it set up on the Xrocker racer rig(£99.99) rather than a desk table and it fits perfectly! no sliding and way less noise😎
I know right logitech is better
@@codyscoffeeshack4924not at all loll
99 gbp to battle the noise?? Why not go T300RS its better in any way besides the feel maybe.
@@codyscoffeeshack4924 no its not
@@corei9723explain how its not when its alot smoother, no deadzone in the middle, more powerful, quieter, and you can swap wheels.
They are not close in price. At all. Your paying 200 more for the thrustmaster
When it comes to durability, Thrustmaster can be problematic and their customer support will only make it worse.
Guess I got lucky, I've had my T300 RS GT that I bought open box for 300 for about 3 years now. It still works like it's brand new, I'm really happy with it, when it breaks I might get a DD wheel like the Podium or something, but honestly, I might just get another one of these because it's been so awesome. Even the pedals are damn good.
Mine broke after 3 uses ... i am sending it back and requesting full refund.
@@2ndAveScents mine is still strong after 2 years of use, i went to the csl dd
if you do youll fucking love it, its so much better it doesnt feel like a toy anymore
@@SSmallwood thanks bro I’m gonna get one for sure
The T300 is way better than any logitech wheel... while it works. Thrustmaster has the worst support I've ever had to deal with and I've never seen a product fail as many times as my TX(which is almost identical to the T300). I actually wish it had an external power supply since that's the first part that failed. In certain markets I think it comes with a power brick.
What kindve issues have you had with it? I just ordered my first wheel and got the TX. Power supply shouldnt be an issue, as from videos ive seen, its supposed to have an external power supply brick.
Play the G923 with Dirt Rally 2.0. update for the wheel. WOW WOW WOW, Tx you Logitech 😍😍😍
what do you mean ?
@@bastschi1507 Hi Bastschi, Dirt Rally 2 now use the TrueForce feature. Simply the best effect for me.
@@louispouliot4102 oh okay
thats why I sold my Logitech and replace with t300rsgt
Same
how is it holding up? i heard it has a lot of problems
@@duhduh14 g29 has a lot of noise, and gear system feels rough, if you want to buy steering wheel better you save your money, patient, until it enough to buy t300
@@duhduh14 i bought the t300 alcantara edition, used it for about 30 mins, and then it just shut down and stopped working. sent it back, still looking for another wheel, dont know if i should get the g923.
@@Jericho1903 Dont get the G923, its the same thing as G29 but more expensive
T300RS all the way through. I was using for a while the logitech g29 and it feels kinda like a toy also it's to noisy. When I heard logitech bringing us a new wheel I thought it would be something to beat my T300RS but then I felt like logitech fans got scammed. Same wheel different colors.
"Same wheel different colors" that's what they have been doing since the G25
@@rejiix The g25 and g27 are identical but they look entirely different to the g29 and g923 which in themselves are also identical.
@@ay-leck1369 the g25 has strait cut gears while the g27-g923 use nearly identical helical cut gears. 25 to g27 was the biggest step that logitech made with this dinosaur of a platform.
@@ay-leck1369 and the g923 has a different motor driver and slightly revised gearing vs the g29
Nonsense man, ive had g29, g920 and g923 now, they dont make noise.... and they last, t300s break
In my country the T300 is 150 euro more expensive than the G932:(((
Ordered my first sim racing wheel, I went with the T300RS GT. I realize it's not recent, but it seems to be a good choice for entry level. I could't justify spending more for fanatac csl elite unfortunately.
thanks i'm in the same spot. About to start my build and think the fanatecs are a bit spendy considering other costs I have involved. T300 seems like the swee spot
The Thrustmaster T300 are great entry level sim wheel. Fanatec Club Sport is nice.. better feel and ffb.. but not really worth the price jump unless you really want the option for better steering wheels that FANATIC makes. Next step for you is to go Direct Drive wheelbase.. whole different level and worth the price jump.
I did the same thing and then you get addicted, lol the T300 is agate way drug into the sim racing world. You’ve been warned.
yea same.. but also, going into fanatec adds up quick, with all the options you have..
So I think for beginners there is really no better option than the t300 atm..
Personally I got a T300RS GT on the aftermarket for 200$, and I am still having a blast.
I also bought a handbrake and a shifter, because I got into drifting. And especially for drifting, you don't want a logitech. So the t300 is really the only option in the lower price range. Good product!
@@RabbitConfirmed Nice stuff, do you have a specific seat or diy setup? I still need to order one; looking at the foldable playseat or next level racing variant of it
Had g series since the g25 days but I bought a t300 and it is better. Smoother ffb without a notchy feel
How is the reliability compared to the g series of Logitech ?
In two weeks I’m going to purchase either the t300 Rs gt or Logitech g923 so wondering which one to go with
@@mikashenmunsamy9397 T300 RS GT Trust me. The g923 is just the g29 with some extra marketing bullshit.
And the reliability of the thrustmaster , the comments on reliability make me Doubt the purchase
@@mikashenmunsamy9397 Have had my T300 RS GT for about 3 years about now and no problems at all so far.
Good Review, but too much input lag man.
Thanks! It's due to the camera shutter speed and monitors refresh rate, it's not IRL like that
Ordered the logitech G923 but after this review I changed order to T300RS GT
so worth it. I also orders the TX leather edition. But then realized its the same as a t300 but $150 more.
@@niftyszn9469 The TX leather wheel has their leather steering rim which is why it costs more. Same with the alcantara edition
I wanna buy the T300RS GT, but in Brazil its price is 2x the G29's. Is the T300 2x better? Would it still be a good deal at this price proportion?
If that's the case, get the G29
T300 !!!
i will get t300 rs gt for euro truck and forza 5
I feel like G29/G923 is just better value for money when you just starting since it costs $300/380 (£220/280) compared to Thrustmaster T300 RS GT which was at least $420 (£310)
(all prices for brand new wheel)
Agreed. Having said that though I really don't like the rough feel of the logitech and the noises it makes. Both are caused by it using gears. I got mine for only £150 though in an amazon warehouse deal (like new). I couldn't justify paying double for the thristmaster. Especially as reading reviews showed a fairly significant number of complaints about reliability.
Nope. The T300 is belt driven, which is miles better as the gear driven system logitech uses.
@@NotNiekie yeah, this
you get what you pay for, the t300rs gt is much better wheel for its value
You should also have mentioned the cost of those shifter
Although the thrustmaster is better than the logitech one ... it costs about 4 times as much ...
logitech wheels feel souless, so much empty ffb, i.e. zero
Guys should i buy g923 or t300rs or t150 pro i got tight budget and not going to expand it or i am going to buy t300rs without shifter or g923 with shifter or t150 pro with shifyer is it that better like worth the shifter sacrifice as i said i am not gonna buy the shifter for like long time if i get the t300rs
Man. I had the g932 and sent it back. Go for the t300rs gt. And wait for that shifter man!!! I promise you.
You will have a blast on the TM. the Logitech isn’t going to feel as nice or built as well.
@@MatthewWieler thanks man i think i am gonna get the t300 second hand and buy the shifter new
I also like to add stay away from fanatec CSL, it's a poor corner cut version of the old CSR entry wheels that Fanatec decided to take out of production, most likely because nobody was buying their overpriced junk. T300 GT edition is simply the best wheel buy for the price now.
I use a CSR elite and a modded version of the g25 shifter with a standalone adapter and a larger metal stick for better reach. That is the best shifter logitech has made.
I have a CSR, CSR Elite, Clubsport, G25, G27, G29, T300RS GT and the CSL which cost me 700€ just to get a complete set with pedals and shifters and in the end it wasn't even comparable quality to the 300€ CSR elite so it was sent back to Fanatec in Germany, Fanatec like to sell their racing equipment seperate instead of complete sets so you pay more, for that reason and the lack of build quality these days i can only advice anyone to avoid them unless you have around 2000-2500€ for a Clubsport set which is the best wheel currently in existence.
For that amount of money you can get a good amount of parts for a cockpit.
T300rs is great.. Just i don't like their reliability.. Soo many problems like overheat.. Calibration, spiking pedals..
I wanted to get the T300RS GT but went with G920 since I accidentally found it in store for 169 euros + shifter for 35. I think that logitech should sell it around for 200 euros with the shifter since it's a decade old design. To justify 400 euros that they're asking for new models that are exactly the same as older ones they'd need to at least go from gears to a belt to get rid of the clunk.
im gonna save ur 14:52 . T300rs GT is better. and u know it.
love the review keep it up stay safe
Thanks for watching!
@@MattsPaddock you too too buddy
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Honestly The g923 is not loud at all.
watching this after bought the logitech g923 be like :(
but atleast its compatible for xbox :)
@@vierastili3224 So is the T300
@@JL-cn1qi TX**
How is it the same price? T300 is 370€ and G923 is 240€ in my country
i just got g923 for like $500 and t300 was like $700 here, and i like it, but i can't drift tho, trying to learn xD
I ended up getting the g920 only cause the shifter for Thrustmaster is not available anywhere and resellers sell it for $200+
Need help please! Trueforce on the G923 is ONLY recognized on my PS5 after I had connected it to the PC app. Once I turn off my PS5, and restart it to play GT7, it will again only recognize Trueforce after I run it through the PC app first. For some reason it looses the Trueforce feature after I restart the PS5, and can only work after I have connected to the PC app. If I leave my PS5 open all day, it wiill work straight, but once the PS5 is closed and restarted, its the same story over again!
Thank you ! Finally a review which demonstrates the loudness.
I think you forgot to mention there are alot of faulty t300's rite out the box
As a beginner in simulations, I bought a G29 + the shifter on a sale for ~215 EUR last year, it was a pretty great deal.
Although in the current price range, I would definitely choose the T300. You forgot to mention that the TH8A is 3 times more expensive than the logitech shifter, of course it's better. :)
Lol, in my case new g920 cost me as much as the TH8A shifter cost.
U dont need a th8a tho even the €50 shifter ln ali express is pretty good or for €100 a shh shifter
its literally 8 times more expensive in my country. its like $390 or something for the th8a shifter, and $50 for the g29 shifter, lol. suffice it to say, even if i go thrustmaster i am not buying that particular shifter.
@@danielh9981 that aliexpress shifter (if its the one im thinking of) has been rated in reviews to be as good as if not better than the th8a in terms of feel. i dont want the word to get out too much though as i plan on buying once once ive deciding if im upgrading from my g29 to thrustmaster or csl dd, either way im getting that shifter. the alternatives are waaay too pricey. and i dont want that aliexpress shifter to go up in price, lol..
@@socks2441 ye fair enough xD
In my country , the T300RS GT is about 80€ to 100€ above the G293 ... which makes the T300 a very hard sell , im also considering the T248 which is priced the same as the G293 here , and from what I hear from reviewers the T248 is slightly better ... but it looks so ugly and the whole plastick vs leather feel is a factor for what will be my first ever wheel purchase...
Thrustmaster t300 much better than logitech
In some reasons yes
I have the g923 and shifter. I bought a nice $80 rig. Its fantastic feeling. I got the wheel new for $180 and shifter was $50. So for under $300 i have a really decent setup.
I already know this isint a comparison, but I'm still gonna watch to rub it in past me's face that I have a t300 now haha
That’s fkn funny.. something I would say/do 😂
I’ve narrowed my preference down to Thrustmaster, So help me out, T300 RS or T248? There is only a $50 price difference right now so I want the best of the two.
Huh the t300rs is 700$ usd
Just got the G29 and it's not bad. Then again, it's my first wheel. It made me a better driver than using my controller for sure 😂
toy wheel lol
@@EazyDuz18 little child reaction lol
@@EazyDuz18 shut up.U cannot make a better one right?
@@TheGhostOfEurope its true though, even the t300 feels like a toy
once you go through a few wheel youll understand oh yeah that logishit was garbage, for starters is great dont get me wrong
Bro, i just found out youre Polish because of the box for pedals that have "UWAGA!" on tape lol
im still on a g27....
Still a great wheel!
g27 > g29
Even tho i really hate Playstation the t300rs is WAY mor worth it cause it last a lot longer than logitch which only lasted me a few months before bugging out
My biggest issue with my g920 is heat, doesn’t take long when drifting to heat the motors, losing a lot of fidelity and ffb strength and pretty much makes it useless until it cools.
Yeah, overheating is a common problem, a lot of people do DIY fans onto wheels
@@MattsPaddock I tried that, ended up having to tear the wheel down really often to clean the dust off the hall sensor, so it wouldn’t go out of calibration if I looked at it wrong 😑
G29 is one of the best wheels. This new version is the same shit but overpriced, you are comparing a cheaper overpriced wheel vs a nice price product... I thibk
I thought the tmx/T150 vs the g29 would have been more comparable. Isn't like the T300 on a different level then the G29?
this is the updated g29 it’s supposed to have better force feedback
@@seanmccann5270 it's the same feedback as g29 but with added vibration. Pointless really
@@mrshab yeah they just added a little vibrator for more immersion, the wheel has been the same since the dfgt with a few facelifts and worse reliability.
For a noob like me and unsure if this is something I want for the future, the G923 is suitable for me. Maybe if I do more sim racing then yeah I’ll need to upgrade to better things but for now this is perfect to just get my toes wet
I don't know about others but it's weird he keeps comparing these to the G29. In Canada the Thrustmaster model is around $600, the 923 is $500 and the G29 is $350. Obviously, these prices fluctuate from time to time, but if you're going to keep bringing up the G29 then you should also bring up the fact that it's nearly half the price of both of these wheels.
The only reason for bringing it up is that the G923 is basically a copy paste G29 for double the price. The T300 is in a different class even solely for the belt. There is 0 reason IMHO to get a G923 over a G29 unless you just want to hurl money at Logitech. The only reason it's compared to T300 is because it's the same price. Lol.
the dfgt, g25, g27, g29 and 923 are all the same w MINOR changes, still just the same copy paste crap
The price difference betwen the G923/T300 is $100 more for T300RS GT and the rubber wheel look and feel so cheap, if you upgrade for the nice Ferrari 599 wheel, you need to spend another $300 depending of the country... At the end you gonna spend arround $400 more for the Thrustmaster? Go directly with the TS-WX Sparco 310 or the Fanatec CSL Elite for arround the same price ($900) or jump on the bargain G923 wheel for reasonnable price and enjoy the Formula launch contol of the G923.
hello, which wheel is better: T300RS GT or T300RS alcantara edition? thanks
They have both the same pedals and the same wheel base. The alcantara wheel without wheelbase and pedals costs ~200€ so if the gt edition is just 100€ cheaper I would buy the alcantara edition. Now you have to decide if the money for the alcantara wheel is worth it FOR YOU. (I would buy the alcantara, but it’s your decision)
The Logitech shifter can be converted to a sequentialo for a $10 3D printed mod.
3d printed mods break super easy and wear fast as hell, not worth buying a 20 dollar mod every few months
in nz g29 is $498 wheras the t300 rs is $848 and the g29 seems easy to install an aftermarket steering wheel on whereas the thrustmaster I'll be stuck with 280mm wheel instead of a 350mm
Finally a video of the topic I wanted! Planning to sell my G29 to my friends and upgrade it to something new like the G923 or T300RS but the T300RS has gone down in price so T300RS it is then
Awesome, glad to hear it helps!
I did the same
The g29 is on sale for 250 dollars on amazon. It's 300 for the shifter bundle.
Amazing 😍🤩 love you video ❣️ can I get a G9 23 please send it to me in west Africa in Togo for free please 🙏👍
So is the Xbox version of the T300RS the Thrustmaster TX? Idk. Just trying to get into sim racing.
Yes
The TM is higher quality but it's also about 200 bucks more in Canada which made this an easy choice for me. G923 and I'm a happy camper.
I went for the T300 RS GT and there were only some problems with squeaking which I solved. I wouldnt go for logitech. Its cheaper and less professional.
I used for so many years a Logitech Momo, that in the end I briefly tried a G27 of a friend and found a G29 for like 160 eur brand new.. went for it and never looked back; I've repaired the Momo and gifted it to a friend, which had a Microsoft Wheel xD. At that price you get a T150, which imho isn't a bad wheel per se, but those stock pedals are horrible compared to the G29.
Here the G923 is 280ish, the T300RS GT is 330-350. Considering the price of the shifter (which is 40ish vs 150ish) it really gets expensive, to go the Trustmaster way, albeit admittedly it's an overall significantly better quality product as whole.
I'm happy to have spent literally nothing for my G29 and I hope it will last as my old Momo, that is still going after more than 15 years. For casual sim racing it was the good choice, should you go doing high level multiplayer racing, then probably T300 or T500 or direct wheel are the way to go.
Thanks for the comparison. You covered everything there is to know in detail and explained the differences clearly. Exactly what a review should be like. Definitely going to subscribe to your channel!
Glad it was helpful!
t300 is $450 right now and g923 is $250- is the t300 worth the extra money ?
I wished I fully researched before purchasing my G29 few years back. I didn't know the t300 wheel could be replaced
I know im lat3 but man if this came out today you would need to compare the th8s wi5h the logitwch one since the price point and its simitar in quality
The thing is the 300rs worth twice the price of g923 in my country
Yeah, the prices can differ greatly from country to country on this model
in Mexico is worth 3 times what the g29 costs
@@dayvs a yo soy de argentina asique no es tan distinto... ya ni hablar de un fanatec que acá ni se consiguen...
Buy a Playseat dude 😂
I have a little bit of a different setup right now - th-cam.com/video/SdwKHiSg2V4/w-d-xo.html 😬
is there a version of the t300 that is compatible with xbox?
842chaos Thrustmaster TX basically
I 100 percent wanted the thrustmaster t300, but I wanted a shifter and I just can’t justify 200 dollars for the shifter and be 600 deep in this thing. I grabbed the Logitech 923 with the 50 dollar shifter and I’m happy with it, but I can’t help but still kinda wanna try the thrustmaster just to see
Same here, went with G923 for shifter because of the price
@@PouchyPowell I caved and returned the g923 which cost 400 for the t248 which was on sale for 350. Then spent 250 for the thrustmaster shifter on Amazon because their impossible to get retail. I love it though. I will say I miss the true force though which was a noticeable difference in both grid legends and gt7 but for me I needed the better shifters I love manual trans with clutch driving. But besides the shifter I’ll say the t248 has slightly stronger fbb but the g923 has the extra effects on the wheel from true force. If your good with the Logitech shifter than I think you made the best choice.
I just changed from G27 to T300 Ferrari Integral Alcantara Edition and Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals.Huge difference,G27 feels like a toy compared to the Thrustmaster wheel and pedals..I also bought the TM Open Wheel.I'm so happy with this little setup all mounted on a wheel stand pro..the stand is the same which I used with the G27 for 5 years,for those who are asking,yes the stand have the holes prepared for logitech and thrustmaster.
I want to upgrade from G29 to this wheel. But it doesn't have PS control buttons. Will I be able to control PS menu etc. Fully with the buttons on this wheel. Thanks.
@@MP-78 I don't have a playstation but I think the T300 base is compatible with it,I don't know if is PS3 or PS4.The buttons on the wheel can be used with playstation and there are 2 more buttons on the base compatible with PS too.
@@MP-78 i think you need to disconnect the ps4 controller once your about to race
have you had any issues with your t300?
@@exo-zaddy4886 nope,all good.
Nothing wrong with the logitech for the money which is significantly cheaper
Had two T300RS’. First one had the power supply fail just out of warranty. Second one, the motor failed as did the Hall effect sensor. While I like how the wheel felt whilst it was working, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone due to abysmal build quality.
this is exactly what I was thinking too... seems that although thrustmaster is the better performing wheel, but I've seen soooo many people saying that over time problems will occur. I cant afford to replace parts along the way so I just want something good and reliable lol
what were your force feedback settings
@@ruffoprime1282 I ran 50% default settings. So update.. I started with the Logitech G920, then returned that for the G923, and then returned that and got a steal on kijiji for the Thrustmaster TMX Pro with the TH8A shifter and a stand.. no regrets man, I love my thrustmaster way more than I did with my Logitech
if you had a g920 and had their issue like constant miscalibration, wiring issues to do with the face pcb to the base pcb etc etc you wouldnt be complaining, my t300rs gt only had one issue and that was the fan bearing got noisey but thats an easy upgrade
I had a used TMX pro kit, didnt have any issue with and the next owner too,
Upgrade to TX for 1 year casual utility (quite more intensive in the end), it fade after intensive drifting sessions but never failed,
New owner freaking love it over his g923
Upgrade to TS-XW (bought used) god i love that wheel, not had a single problem with so far
The 2 first wheels was mainly for forza7 (little assetto for the Tx)
And i like my steering to feel heavy since i drove a non powersteering cars on semi-slick, so my FFB are quite aggressive (but in a realistic way) and they never failed
With the g29 you can fix the loudness on some games with settings. From my experience its very loud then when i tweak some settings its pretty quiet
Is there going to be ps5 update to t300?
I don't know yet!
ps4 accessories work with the ps5
The G923 looks terrible with the controller integrated in the wheel. It’s looks like a toy.
mate you have some beautiful feet there , but thanks for the review it was very good and I'm going to go with the thrust master
Thanks for the compliment 😁
Bro in Romania the g923 is 320 euro and the t300 rs gt is 480 euro 😢
Hmm, maybe I can manage to sell my G29 and get the T300RS. Sad to see the new Logitech stayed very close to the G29.
9:47 lol thrustmaser don't have sound😂