I have a concern. I just replaced my clutch with a stage 1 kit and flywheel thats 9lbs as soon as I turned the car over I her and chatter/rattle noise. Not loud but it was there. I had the car still lifted when I put in gear in 1st it didn't made noise but all other after made the noise and was pretty loud. Is this noise because I replace the dual mass flywheel or what could it be. Keep in mind all gears go in and engages
very nice!! thanks so much!! have been hearing the noise in my 2009 vw jetta tdi, multiple mechanics told me i needed a new transmission!! glad i kept researching the issue and finally came across your video!!
Thank you. I am getting something very similar on my 2012 Audi RS3. I can get a vibration in the car also sometimes on deceleration when going slowly. The rattling sounds is way more prominent and noticeable when the car is cold too
Great video 👍 I have the exact same problem on my VW Golf Variant MK5. I Will order the flywheel from Autodoc ( cheapest i found) and soon replace it myself. It dont look to hard to do, only time consuming. I think i Will make a video of it as well and post here on youtube. Thanks for all info, this was very helpful 👍
Hi from Tipperary . I got a caddy 1.9tdi lockdown project Got new rad and thermostat and cleaned heater core so didn't run the van and started it today and I have that noise out of nowhere don't think it has that duel mass fly wheel head is melted 👍👍 thanks from the video s
Just had that noise in 2020 fiesta van, got new dmf and clutch fitted, flyin it now 👍. DMF’s are nice and smooth to drive but can be prone to failure 🙄
Hi there Very helpful explanation 👍 Can you please tell me if this symptoms can be from bad injectors, Because i have the same problem with mine and different people saying different things? I would really appreciate any comments
Excellent explanation and presentation - do have a question - I have a car which when you turn it off sounds like a big rattle then clunk - and a worn Dual mass sounds does spring to mind but mine is about 6months old - however when you have to ride the clutch - hill start or engine control/ manoeuvre parking - It had a burnt egg smell? Any ideas would be appreciated - it clunks and rattles especially when turning of the engine🙏🙏👍👍
I was just quoted 1000 euros including parts and labor. 2008 Passat 2.0tdi DSG. Add another 500e if done at VW. If you want to DIY the parts can be found at around 400e (prob bit more) but its a big job as the gearbox must come off the car.
Gerard I must admit, on first listen I diagnosed a DMF issue but then when you mentioned what you were working on, a VW/Audi with a DSG gearbox....but the noise was classic DMF...it didn't make sense. Hence all those 'knowledgable' comments about DSG's don't have DMF's etc...Thanks for sharing..BTW my LT35 SDI...built in the last millennium requires a DMF....If your ever on holiday in Scotland........
Thank you Sir! That was very informative! My car is octavia 1,4tsi dsg7 2011 I have that nose in cold mornings, but after warm up, it disappears... Could this problem with dmfw also effect the work of my transmission,? Because I get some sort of vibrations on low rpm when increasing speed from 1st to 2nd , from 2nd to 3rd gear. And that happens only when the gearbox gets fully warmed... SOUNDS STRANGE when cold there is noise but when it gets warm 95 degrees c transmission starts to act wierdly ... there are no those symptoms when it is cold.... Thank you P.s. we have replaced clutch, spark plugs, ignition coils, motor oil, but it did not help...
Thanks for these explanation, may i ask you i just bought passat R36 2008 when the car shift for the 6 gear it have like that hard shift some times , what is the issue? I will be grateful 🌹
Sounds like the dual mass flywheel falling apart. They are also on mk4's with dsg or manual transmissions. On the manual mk4's you can replace it with a solid flywheel.
I had it on my Passat dsg. I reset the idle from 850 to 910rpm with vag com and it went away. Funny thing is it drove much better. The dsg was a lot smoother.
I have the same noise on my skoda octavia 2011 dsg. Its pretty iritating, when i increase the rpms it disapears,but under 900rpm it comes back. How did you reset the rpms? Any tutorials i could do by myself? Greetings
@@leonardocapriodi1130 I bought VCDS and a laptop. I then just played around with it until i found the tickover setting. You can put any number you want in it so i started at 1000rpm and slowly brought it down until the rattle came back then raised it slightly till it went again.
@@leonardocapriodi1130 the noise went away and didn't return while i had the car. I think the dual mass fly wheel is made of two discs of metal laid over the top of each other with springs attaching one to the other. Over time the springs and their seats ware and this creates that sort of chatter/rattle. by bringing up the RPM the engine runs smoother putting a continuos load through the plates/springs removing the noise. I might be wrong but it has worked for me.
I have this exact symptom on my Volkswagen Passat B6 2009 DSG 2.0L TDI I have just had the clutch pack replaced, with a brand new genuine Volkswagen part as the clutch was previously making a horrible grinding noise and banging into gears. But this noise here is still happening, and it also when idling in traffic in D1 gear, will judder as you have shown, but it will also flick on the dashboard from D1 to D, randomly? Any ideas what that could be?
Hi live in Scotland and have vw passat 2016 DSG gear box 2 litter engine. Have a same problem. I have done 125000 miles. And had no idea what's wrong butt very good diagnose. Thankyou for your help.only 1 question that how long I have before changing the mass flywheel.?
Exact rattle, noise,is on my Vw touran 1.9tdi manual transmission,,,do I have to replace it as soon as possible ? or it can go for another few thousand miles,,what do you suggest,
@@marcelveli I hope you had explored replacement of the DMF on your tranmission. It could hold for months or years... but it may fail without warning, with bad consequences to removing the flywheel, or worse, cause a failure inside the transmission or engine. I had a failing manual DMF cause the transmission to fail on my first mk4 TDI, when I was naive and ignorant of the consequences. Had a later one with the rattling DMF that I ignored for 50k km (still naive, was told it had a rattle prone single mass flywheel installed by the seller). That one was difficult to remove because that dual-mass flywheel failed twisted, and took extra hours to remove the 6 bolts that secure it to the crankshaft. Best to get the flywheel and clutch replaced as a unit, and the other repair parts "while you are in there". It's costly in time, and adequate tools to support the engine / provide access to remove the transmission, whether you do it with an extra pair of hands, or if you have a trusted mechanic do the work.
Just bought a 2009 Passat 1.4 TSi with DSG. It has this noise at idle. It's not very loud just yet. (126K miles) Got it booked in for a checkup next Friday.
Good stuff Gerard, still a lot of debate on like for like or solid, I think on lower hp, solid is ok and higher hp with say a six speed box the dmf is the way to go, never replaced one on a dsg box, thanks again Gerard:):)
On manual transmissions I have done many solid flywheel conversions, the DMF serves it's purpose well but in all those cases the cost was just too much for the customer in comparison to solid. These DSG's have to be DMF though with the design, solid options are not applicable in repair. Thanks for stopping in Pat, I hope you are keeping well over there 👍👍
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage We are all fine thanks Gerard, but numbers are rising each day, will just have to wait and see what happens, a weird year, mind yourselves a chara👍🙏😷
I have same noise but when its could, and when i put on P ore N. But when i change to D ore R so i dont here any noise. Can any one help me if is it same problem ore ?
Great video. Do you have a way I can send you the noise that my Volkswagen polo GTI 2006 is making on start up. It sounds very similar to what yours in the video is doing. Mechanic said it was a needing a whole new transmission n I don't believe it does. Just looking for a little help loo
mine is the Jetta 2.0 tdi it has this rattle and its intermittent its goes away for weeks then if im stuck in traffic on hot days it seems to show up It also speeds up with acceleration sounds like its there is also vibrations on the clutch and around the pedals this isnt always there either but if you press the clutch just before biting point or while sat on a hill kind of riding the clutch you can feel heavy vibrations in your foot too Im almost certain this is my failure now also mine has 260k on the clock the DMF was changed at 130 so its bang on due again is it worth doing on a 57 plate ???
Is it possible to get DMS failure on brand new car? I just bought a 1.5L TFSI AUDI A3 with 6 gears manual transmission and driving slow at low gears with windshields down I can clearly hear rattling sounds like you demonstration at 1:00. I’m also getting “kangaroo effect” … are these two symptoms (rattling sound and kangarooing) related? Should I ask for DMS replacement ?
Excellent video I have the start of this but its not that loud on mine but at least I know to shift it before it gets as bad as this and did I mention this is a good video very clear and instructive! Thanks
I'm trying to get a mk7 golf but they aren't very abundant where I live. I found one today with 60,000 km and it's in great shape but the car sounds like this one minus the sound from the transmission that you mention in this video. My question is is this sound normal? To me it sounds like a Diesel engine but it bothers me since this is a TSI. I've asked around and some people say it's just the tensioner and timing belt that need changing, but it seems to me it is too early for such a repair.
My 2011 Jetta TDI DSG makes this noise , it has done the rough start once, I've been confused about it for 2 or 3 months , I do have a car appointment at a well known VW and Audi mechanic shop August 16th
got a vw touran make a harid screeching nosie only when accelerate to pick up speed stops as soon as i take foot off accelerator any idea its a dmf clutch engin code bex 1.9tdi manual 6 speed
My 5 speed man golf v sdi 2.0 has a metallic rattle when changing gears. Not sure if clutch, flywheel or both. Also when going into 2nd from 1st sometimes it grinds a little (I replaced some bushings at the accessible top of the gear handle and readjusted the gear selector bowden cable ties but little effect)
I have a similar problem to my vw bora pd130, making a similar noise, would that affect mine on starting, spluttering and then stall? Within 2 seconds?
Old news. It's a common thing since introduced in 2005.5 on the TDI. Manuals have had this issue since the mark 4 debut in 98 with the New beetle. The DSG DMF can explode destroying the transaxle.
Great video. Question: Were there also any symptoms on the cutch pedal, or did noises changed when pressed? I have a 1.6 TDI Ibiza that is starting to make a little noise/rattling (not as bad as this) that comes up when pressing the clutch pedal (which kicks back sometimes or feels like it's stuck other times) or when crossing a bump on the road. I believe it is due to the dual mass and possibly it will evolve to this. Hope I'm wrong
@@josem3651 Exactly. Not yet, no. Mechanics said it might be a worn out engine mount and is not worth to open the transmission yet, in case it is the flywheel, because the car has no power loss and the noise not intense nor constant. Their advise was to pay attention on the noise evolution only
Any help I live in New York I just purchased the 2012 Volkswagen Passat TDI and it's right around the 30-day lemon law and had to have the car go back to the dealer for a different issue and mentioned the noise to them and told them I thought it might have been a heat shield probably something common but can they look at it and never mentioned anything about it, I have this on text message should I seek legal action towards him
I have an Audi A4 b7 TDI automatic and am getting the same exact noise should I tell my garage that's the part I need and that I know about this problem now ?
@Gerard Burke Hi I Have A 2007 Passat B6 2.0 TDI 6 Speed Manual Transmission. Whit the same noise. Soo Is This A Full Rebuild Transmission Or "only" The Flywheel ??
I am experiencing a loud grinding noise in drive right until about 55 km/hr. I've also developed a water pump leak. Quick guess, would you think it's two separate issues or 1 solely related to failing water pump?
I have a 2014 Renault Grand Scenic 1.5dci with a similar noise. Engine vibration at idle can be felt right through the car and clutch judder when pulling away. You can also smell the clutch burning when starting off up a steep bank. The noise is present whether the clutch is pressed or not. Thank you for an informative video.
I have a similar sound on a 2011 tiguan tdi, my mechanic has said its most likely the "torque converter" is this the same thing but they have used a different term for it? Im from Australia, if its not the same thing, would it also give similar symptons to a bad dmf?
On a manual which stopped making the noise when you put your foot on the clutch, would that be the DMF? I assumed shaft bearings when I came across it and didn't buy the car. Bloke selling it said it was "just the clutch" which I doubt.
@@pauljensen5715 no mate. But I still think if the noise goes with the foot down on the clutch (and the clutch is working) it'll be the gearbox shaft bearings. If the noise is there whatever, then I'd suspect the DMF. Just my thoughts though.
Hi been getting some tinky clicky noices from my DSG gear box when in 1st 2nd gear. Comes and goes. Started few days ago. Any idea's? Audi tts mk2 8j 2009
Had a 2006 A4 Audi, I think it was a B6 engine, which had exactly the same noise but it was intermittent, every time I'd take it to Audi it wouldn't make the noise, so they were absolutely no help, it then started to burn a lot of oil and found out these engines are prone to the oil pump failing, so ended up getting rid of the car and never to buy an Audi again, worst aftercare of any manufacturer.
Hi mate think I've found my problem 2.0tdi dsg 2010 got that noise and rough idle and stalls after few mins would the dmf cause it too stall also horrible smell
Hi Gerard, I have a 2018 Volkswagen Passat DSG it's a 2 litre tdi 150 7 speed but it's the wet clutch model. When I stop the car very slowly, and the gear changes from 2nd to 1st or when it's in first and kind of slightly creeping but my foot is on the brake. The car makes a kind of griding sound. It happens more so if I'm trying to come to a stop on a hill. I can hear the trans making a sound similar to crunching gears in a manual. Now, it only happens if I stop very gently. I'm hoping it's just me confusing the clutches into engaging and disengaging because I'm stopping so gently they don't know what to do. If I stop like normal it doesn't happen. Dsg works fine otherwise, shifts super fast and super smooth. No jerking or anything. Could you help me please? I only bought the car in March in Dublin, it's still under warranty but I'm in Kilkenny and it's a hassle to get it back up if nothing is wrong you know? Thanks so much for your time. I know I didn't explain it too clearly
Did you figure this out? I have something similar, when I’m hitting the gas at around 18km if I take it off the gad right before it switches from 2-3 or down shifting from 3-2 I have this knocking sound, everything else is excellent.
Got a friend here with a 2004 Golf manual drive with like a fence chain draging on the ground noise(intermittent 1-2 secs) coming from passenger side by front wheel when a accelerating slow. Nothing hanging nor dragging under car. Anything on these vehicles, im scathing my head. Will AllData have this symptom in a tsb? Any help will do.
Audio from multiple angles was a good idea! Nice to see that they rattle just as much in Australia as they do in North America! =)
Good to see ya again mate :)
VW's rattle the world over LOL helps keep us all busy 🤣🤣
They rattle everywhere, in EU too
I have a concern. I just replaced my clutch with a stage 1 kit and flywheel thats 9lbs as soon as I turned the car over I her and chatter/rattle noise. Not loud but it was there. I had the car still lifted when I put in gear in 1st it didn't made noise but all other after made the noise and was pretty loud. Is this noise because I replace the dual mass flywheel or what could it be. Keep in mind all gears go in and engages
@@Je_lunaIt could be due to single mass fywheel. They do rattle after engaging
@@krunoslavnegulic9939 thanks. But yeah I started making some research and I'm pretty sure it is
very nice!! thanks so much!! have been hearing the noise in my 2009 vw jetta tdi, multiple mechanics told me i needed a new transmission!! glad i kept researching the issue and finally came across your video!!
Thank you. I am getting something very similar on my 2012 Audi RS3. I can get a vibration in the car also sometimes on deceleration when going slowly. The rattling sounds is way more prominent and noticeable when the car is cold too
This is the EXACT noise I have on my Scirocco 2.0 TDI DSG and ALL the symptoms you describe are exactly that! Time to ring my mechanic!
Yes right and its also shaking a LOT noise and shaking the whole car is sick, thnxs
Great video 👍 I have the exact same problem on my VW Golf Variant MK5. I Will order the flywheel from Autodoc ( cheapest i found) and soon replace it myself. It dont look to hard to do, only time consuming. I think i Will make a video of it as well and post here on youtube. Thanks for all info, this was very helpful 👍
Thanks, my VW 2ltr TDI cc Passat 2013 has that exact sound, it's driving me crazy.
Hi from Tipperary . I got a caddy 1.9tdi lockdown project Got new rad and thermostat and cleaned heater core so didn't run the van and started it today and I have that noise out of nowhere don't think it has that duel mass fly wheel head is melted 👍👍 thanks from the video s
Just had that noise in 2020 fiesta van, got new dmf and clutch fitted, flyin it now 👍. DMF’s are nice and smooth to drive but can be prone to failure 🙄
Brilliant - this just started happening today to my '06 Jetta TDI .
Hi there
Very helpful explanation 👍
Can you please tell me if this symptoms can be from bad injectors,
Because i have the same problem with mine and different people saying different things?
I would really appreciate any comments
Spot on just what my amarock is doing!! Very helpful!
Excellent explanation and presentation - do have a question - I have a car which when you turn it off sounds like a big rattle then clunk - and a worn Dual mass sounds does spring to mind but mine is about 6months old - however when you have to ride the clutch - hill start or engine control/ manoeuvre parking - It had a burnt egg smell? Any ideas would be appreciated - it clunks and rattles especially when turning of the engine🙏🙏👍👍
I've seen multiple automatics that with a broken flexplate sounds pretty similar.
Well done mate,
I had no idea they had a DMF! What a weird industry we are in!
Yep we sure are buddy, lots of 🤔🤔🤔🤨 moments trying to figure it all out 😂😂
Eccellente!
One major symptom my DMF has is excessive vibration when driving at low RPM which disappears at higher vehicle speed
So what could be the problem if it's a manual transmission?
@@yakekaelvis48 engine mounts maybe, how's the clutch?
I was just quoted 1000 euros including parts and labor. 2008 Passat 2.0tdi DSG.
Add another 500e if done at VW.
If you want to DIY the parts can be found at around 400e (prob bit more) but its a big job as the gearbox must come off the car.
Gerard I must admit, on first listen I diagnosed a DMF issue but then when you mentioned what you were working on, a VW/Audi with a DSG gearbox....but the noise was classic DMF...it didn't make sense. Hence all those 'knowledgable' comments about DSG's don't have DMF's etc...Thanks for sharing..BTW my LT35 SDI...built in the last millennium requires a DMF....If your ever on holiday in Scotland........
Cheers Malcolm, I make sure to bring my tool kit if I am swinging past :)
Thank you Sir!
That was very informative!
My car is octavia 1,4tsi dsg7 2011
I have that nose in cold mornings, but after warm up, it disappears...
Could this problem with dmfw also effect the work of my transmission,?
Because I get some sort of vibrations on low rpm when increasing speed from 1st to 2nd , from 2nd to 3rd gear. And that happens only when the gearbox gets fully warmed... SOUNDS STRANGE when cold there is noise but when it gets warm 95 degrees c transmission starts to act wierdly ... there are no those symptoms when it is cold....
Thank you
P.s. we have replaced clutch, spark plugs, ignition coils, motor oil, but it did not help...
Thanks for these explanation, may i ask you i just bought passat R36 2008 when the car shift for the 6 gear it have like that hard shift some times , what is the issue? I will be grateful 🌹
Sounds like the dual mass flywheel falling apart. They are also on mk4's with dsg or manual transmissions. On the manual mk4's you can replace it with a solid flywheel.
Pretty sure Mk4 never had DSG transmission, just conventional automatic with torque converter and no DMF
@@dopiaza2006 New beetles with the BEW TDI had the DSG(or 5spd manual) I also think some audi tt's had the dsg.
Wow very nice info .would you ever go to a single mass on a standard 2006 tdi.thank you
If the engibe itself is okay, no oil etc and the noise is on the right as your are looking im thinking clutch/ flywheel separation
I had it on my Passat dsg. I reset the idle from 850 to 910rpm with vag com and it went away. Funny thing is it drove much better. The dsg was a lot smoother.
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I have the same noise on my skoda octavia 2011 dsg. Its pretty iritating, when i increase the rpms it disapears,but under 900rpm it comes back.
How did you reset the rpms? Any tutorials i could do by myself?
Greetings
@@leonardocapriodi1130 I bought VCDS and a laptop. I then just played around with it until i found the tickover setting. You can put any number you want in it so i started at 1000rpm and slowly brought it down until the rattle came back then raised it slightly till it went again.
@@glyflex tnx for the quick reply 🤩 how is it today.. No more noise?
@@leonardocapriodi1130 the noise went away and didn't return while i had the car. I think the dual mass fly wheel is made of two discs of metal laid over the top of each other with springs attaching one to the other. Over time the springs and their seats ware and this creates that sort of chatter/rattle. by bringing up the RPM the engine runs smoother putting a continuos load through the plates/springs removing the noise. I might be wrong but it has worked for me.
I have this exact symptom on my Volkswagen Passat B6 2009 DSG 2.0L TDI
I have just had the clutch pack replaced, with a brand new genuine Volkswagen part as the clutch was previously making a horrible grinding noise and banging into gears. But this noise here is still happening, and it also when idling in traffic in D1 gear, will judder as you have shown, but it will also flick on the dashboard from D1 to D, randomly? Any ideas what that could be?
I have this sound just when i drive in gear 2 ,or when i drive with gear 2 on offroad roads.
Hi live in Scotland and have vw passat 2016 DSG gear box 2 litter engine. Have a same problem. I have done 125000 miles. And had no idea what's wrong butt very good diagnose. Thankyou for your help.only 1 question that how long I have before changing the mass flywheel.?
Exact rattle, noise,is on my Vw touran 1.9tdi manual transmission,,,do I have to replace it as soon as possible ? or it can go for another few thousand miles,,what do you suggest,
I would like to know too as I have exact same car VW Touran 1.9tdi manual transmission that has just come up with the same sound few days ago.
@@marcelveli I hope you had explored replacement of the DMF on your tranmission. It could hold for months or years... but it may fail without warning, with bad consequences to removing the flywheel, or worse, cause a failure inside the transmission or engine. I had a failing manual DMF cause the transmission to fail on my first mk4 TDI, when I was naive and ignorant of the consequences. Had a later one with the rattling DMF that I ignored for 50k km (still naive, was told it had a rattle prone single mass flywheel installed by the seller). That one was difficult to remove because that dual-mass flywheel failed twisted, and took extra hours to remove the 6 bolts that secure it to the crankshaft. Best to get the flywheel and clutch replaced as a unit, and the other repair parts "while you are in there". It's costly in time, and adequate tools to support the engine / provide access to remove the transmission, whether you do it with an extra pair of hands, or if you have a trusted mechanic do the work.
Ive been trying to figure out that noise for way to long now lmfao thank you.
Just bought a 2009 Passat 1.4 TSi with DSG. It has this noise at idle. It's not very loud just yet. (126K miles)
Got it booked in for a checkup next Friday.
what was the problem and have they solved it ?
?????????
Bad bearings in the Gearbox. Had to have it rebuilt.
Hi , need an advice .
Good stuff Gerard, still a lot of debate on like for like or solid, I think on lower hp, solid is ok and higher hp with say a six speed box the dmf is the way to go, never replaced one on a dsg box, thanks again Gerard:):)
On manual transmissions I have done many solid flywheel conversions, the DMF serves it's purpose well but in all those cases the cost was just too much for the customer in comparison to solid.
These DSG's have to be DMF though with the design, solid options are not applicable in repair.
Thanks for stopping in Pat, I hope you are keeping well over there 👍👍
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage We are all fine thanks Gerard, but numbers are rising each day, will just have to wait and see what happens, a weird year, mind yourselves a chara👍🙏😷
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage great video. Maybe silly question but need to ask, is it just normal DMF ie LUK suitable for Manual or auto ?
Rattling good info Gerard
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Cheers Paul 😂😂😂
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage are you in uk ? would love to bring my car to you :)
100% it was my dual mass flywheel on jetta 5 1.9 tdi bxe manual engine.
Excellent audio! Thank you!!!!
I had that sound and i changed the engine mount near the transmission side and all went away haha I think i cheated on the problem seeing your video
I have same noise but when its could, and when i put on P ore N.
But when i change to D ore R so i dont here any noise.
Can any one help me if is it same problem ore ?
Do manual have these fly wheels?
Mine is goin in the shop Friday, i have vw touran 2.0 tdi with dsg automatic. Luckily i still have warranty on the car
is it dangerous to drive with this problem?
Hi mate I'm getting a similar noise from around the gearbox area even after replacing the DMF. Any suggestions?
Brilliant man
DMF is a common problem and not too hard to repair. But the part is pretty expensive. DSG transmission if taken care of Last for a lot of miles or K.
Great video. Do you have a way I can send you the noise that my Volkswagen polo GTI 2006 is making on start up. It sounds very similar to what yours in the video is doing.
Mechanic said it was a needing a whole new transmission n I don't believe it does. Just looking for a little help loo
mine is the Jetta 2.0 tdi it has this rattle and its intermittent its goes away for weeks then if im stuck in traffic on hot days it seems to show up It also speeds up with acceleration sounds like its there is also vibrations on the clutch and around the pedals this isnt always there either but if you press the clutch just before biting point or while sat on a hill kind of riding the clutch you can feel heavy vibrations in your foot too
Im almost certain this is my failure now also mine has 260k on the clock the DMF was changed at 130 so its bang on due again is it worth doing on a 57 plate ???
I got a vidoe uploaded on my channel. Is this the same issue? It's a 1.2 TSI manuel
Is it possible to get DMS failure on brand new car? I just bought a 1.5L TFSI AUDI A3 with 6 gears manual transmission and driving slow at low gears with windshields down I can clearly hear rattling sounds like you demonstration at 1:00. I’m also getting “kangaroo effect” … are these two symptoms (rattling sound and kangarooing) related? Should I ask for DMS replacement ?
Hi Gerard. Do you have an email to send you a video of this failure? Thanks. Pablo.
amazing video nice editing clear vocal (y)
Nice informative video. Gotta admit, I had no idea VW DSG's had a DMF
Thanks very much, no shame in not knowing, plenty to learn for us all, I was more than surprised when I first found out about them too :)
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage do the manual ones have it?
Excellent video I have the start of this but its not that loud on mine but at least I know to shift it before it gets as bad as this and did I mention this is a good video very clear and instructive! Thanks
Thank you 🙏
Have 2013 caddy 1.6tdi and I have that same noise.. but I have a single mass flywheel so this just raises more questions about my problem Lol
I'm trying to get a mk7 golf but they aren't very abundant where I live. I found one today with 60,000 km and it's in great shape but the car sounds like this one minus the sound from the transmission that you mention in this video. My question is is this sound normal? To me it sounds like a Diesel engine but it bothers me since this is a TSI. I've asked around and some people say it's just the tensioner and timing belt that need changing, but it seems to me it is too early for such a repair.
My 2011 Jetta TDI DSG makes this noise , it has done the rough start once, I've been confused about it for 2 or 3 months , I do have a car appointment at a well known VW and Audi mechanic shop August 16th
makes the noise when it's cold and started , but goes away later on
Did you found the problem?
@@TheSuper7777777 yes , took it to a well known VW and Audi shop, My AC compressor is going out
Can this noise happen also in a SMF Single Flywheel?
How long can I drive with the car with that noise?
What would be the replacement part number for Volkswagen routan
Hey my question is , is ok to drive it like that? May have that noise, but it’s located at the left side of the engine. Please help me .
Top vid thanks Yorkshire UK
Sounds like myn on cold startup but goes away when warm, changes thru the gears perfectly but abit jolly on takeoff
Thanks that was very helpful, especially with the different sound clips.
Can it happen on a normal fly wheel
Very nice information!
I've got a skoda octavia 1.6tdi mk3 just started to make this ticking noise at idle ... how long can it go for like this??????
Thank you so very much for this video!!!!
Cheers Ron
Does fly wheel damage affects clutch system in dsg gearbox? Is it. Compulsive to change clutch system along with flywheel
thanks for this
got a vw touran make a harid screeching nosie only when accelerate to pick up speed stops as soon as i take foot off accelerator any idea its a dmf clutch engin code bex 1.9tdi manual 6 speed
My 5 speed man golf v sdi 2.0 has a metallic rattle when changing gears. Not sure if clutch, flywheel or both. Also when going into 2nd from 1st sometimes it grinds a little (I replaced some bushings at the accessible top of the gear handle and readjusted the gear selector bowden cable ties but little effect)
Thank you.
I have a similar problem to my vw bora pd130, making a similar noise, would that affect mine on starting, spluttering and then stall? Within 2 seconds?
Old news. It's a common thing since introduced in 2005.5 on the TDI. Manuals have had this issue since the mark 4 debut in 98 with the New beetle. The DSG DMF can explode destroying the transaxle.
Thanks. My 2011 Jetta TDI made this noise after going thru 2 feet of Water
Same happened to me bro, any idea on how to fix it?
@@jairomoreno5270 2500 bucks to the dealer
@@jairomoreno5270 my mechanic said it maybe bad magnet's on the flywheel or water pushed some trash on ot
Great video. Question: Were there also any symptoms on the cutch pedal, or did noises changed when pressed? I have a 1.6 TDI Ibiza that is starting to make a little noise/rattling (not as bad as this) that comes up when pressing the clutch pedal (which kicks back sometimes or feels like it's stuck other times) or when crossing a bump on the road. I believe it is due to the dual mass and possibly it will evolve to this. Hope I'm wrong
Same issue with my seat Ibiza specially in bumps. Did you solve it yet?
@@josem3651 Exactly. Not yet, no. Mechanics said it might be a worn out engine mount and is not worth to open the transmission yet, in case it is the flywheel, because the car has no power loss and the noise not intense nor constant. Their advise was to pay attention on the noise evolution only
Same noise on fabia 1.2 i was very confused for some days. It disappeared while pressing the clutch padel
Any help I live in New York I just purchased the 2012 Volkswagen Passat TDI and it's right around the 30-day lemon law and had to have the car go back to the dealer for a different issue and mentioned the noise to them and told them I thought it might have been a heat shield probably something common but can they look at it and never mentioned anything about it, I have this on text message should I seek legal action towards him
sorry I have same noise what is the problem FLYWHEEL??
Would there be vibrations at certain rpms Accelerating in an automatic? I have a DSG 2013 Golf tdi, thanks!
I have an Audi A4 b7 TDI automatic and am getting the same exact noise should I tell my garage that's the part I need and that I know about this problem now ?
@Gerard Burke Hi I Have A 2007 Passat B6 2.0 TDI 6 Speed Manual Transmission. Whit the same noise. Soo Is This A Full Rebuild Transmission Or "only" The Flywheel ??
I am experiencing a loud grinding noise in drive right until about 55 km/hr. I've also developed a water pump leak. Quick guess, would you think it's two separate issues or 1 solely related to failing water pump?
I have a 2014 Renault Grand Scenic 1.5dci with a similar noise. Engine vibration at idle can be felt right through the car and clutch judder when pulling away. You can also smell the clutch burning when starting off up a steep bank. The noise is present whether the clutch is pressed or not. Thank you for an informative video.
There are a few flywheels which one out off these 2 is the right one or are they both the same
Great info
I have same nose and thought it may be the clutch or the flywheel
Thanks for confirmation
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great video
Does a 2001 Wolfsburg 1.8t 5speed have a dual mass fly wheel I’m having the same sounds
Exact same noise (can of marbles) on my '19 GTI with only 12,600 miles on it. Not too happy but hoping warranty will bail me out.
I have a similar sound on a 2011 tiguan tdi, my mechanic has said its most likely the "torque converter" is this the same thing but they have used a different term for it? Im from Australia, if its not the same thing, would it also give similar symptons to a bad dmf?
Is that like a flex plate
On a manual which stopped making the noise when you put your foot on the clutch, would that be the DMF? I assumed shaft bearings when I came across it and didn't buy the car. Bloke selling it said it was "just the clutch" which I doubt.
Did you ever get an answer for this? I just bought a manual mk5 rabbit and its making the same rattle
@@pauljensen5715 no mate. But I still think if the noise goes with the foot down on the clutch (and the clutch is working) it'll be the gearbox shaft bearings. If the noise is there whatever, then I'd suspect the DMF. Just my thoughts though.
If it goes away when you push the clutch in it’s your throw out bearing.
Which yes is technically part of the clutch as it gets replaced with it. That’s if u get a clutch kit installed. So not gearbox.
Spot on !! Skoda superb same issue and same solution 👍🙂
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Hi been getting some tinky clicky noices from my DSG gear box when in 1st 2nd gear. Comes and goes. Started few days ago. Any idea's? Audi tts mk2 8j 2009
Had a 2006 A4 Audi, I think it was a B6 engine, which had exactly the same noise but it was intermittent, every time I'd take it to Audi it wouldn't make the noise, so they were absolutely no help, it then started to burn a lot of oil and found out these engines are prone to the oil pump failing, so ended up getting rid of the car and never to buy an Audi again, worst aftercare of any manufacturer.
I just swapped my DMF to a single conversion. I still have a similar noise. Don’t know what it is.
Hi mate think I've found my problem 2.0tdi dsg 2010 got that noise and rough idle and stalls after few mins would the dmf cause it too stall also horrible smell
DMF is dead.
I got this problem also not too long ago..
I had to replace the clutch as well!
I have the same noise, but mine is 1.4 TSI (CAX) Manual transmisson!
I do too and after a couple of minutes of running it will lower in sound it’s a 1.4 tsi 2017 Jetta
Hi Gerard, I have a 2018 Volkswagen Passat DSG it's a 2 litre tdi 150 7 speed but it's the wet clutch model. When I stop the car very slowly, and the gear changes from 2nd to 1st or when it's in first and kind of slightly creeping but my foot is on the brake. The car makes a kind of griding sound. It happens more so if I'm trying to come to a stop on a hill. I can hear the trans making a sound similar to crunching gears in a manual. Now, it only happens if I stop very gently. I'm hoping it's just me confusing the clutches into engaging and disengaging because I'm stopping so gently they don't know what to do. If I stop like normal it doesn't happen. Dsg works fine otherwise, shifts super fast and super smooth. No jerking or anything. Could you help me please? I only bought the car in March in Dublin, it's still under warranty but I'm in Kilkenny and it's a hassle to get it back up if nothing is wrong you know? Thanks so much for your time. I know I didn't explain it too clearly
Did you figure this out?
I have something similar, when I’m hitting the gas at around 18km if I take it off the gad right before it switches from 2-3 or down shifting from 3-2 I have this knocking sound, everything else is excellent.
@@MrNoSolo no I never solved it. Still does it 2 years and 40,,000 miles later. Works fine otherwise
Got a friend here with a 2004 Golf manual drive with like a fence chain draging on the ground noise(intermittent 1-2 secs) coming from passenger side by front wheel when a accelerating slow. Nothing hanging nor dragging under car. Anything on these vehicles, im scathing my head. Will AllData have this symptom in a tsb? Any help will do.